the cops didn't know he had a phaser or a gun, he will not be convicted. >> sean:n: thank you both. scary five. please stay safe, hannity.com. let not your heart be troubled. laura, i know i you don't like when i say that's. laura ingraham. >> i was so >> laura: i was worried about steve harrigan on live tv. >> sean: we have some amazing, strong, tough reporters, we've got to tip our hat to them as always. i hear in our here, he's back. >> laura: i was worried it all went dark there, hannity. >> sean: this is real news, this is live, these are important questions. that's a very special thing we saw unfold there and it's dangerous and you know that there is no bigger supporter of the second amendment. but i believe in law and order and i believe the bullie policet

maintain law and order. >> laura: i'm glad steve harrigan is safe. i don't know what was about to go on there. hannity, great to see you tonight. i am laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. why do so many videos coming out of the d.c. area the last 24 hours show white protesters screaming obscenities in the faces of black police officers? a reporter who has been in the middle of all the chaos is going to tell us.le also, "the ingraham angle" got its hands on never before seen footage from the protest from lafayette square a few weeks back and we are going to reveal the truth tonight about what happened there. plus as our history is torn down from the streets are renamed, classic cinema comes with a warning, one venezuelan activist went viral delivering a word of caution to america. she is here tonight and is going to warn us what comes next if we aren't very careful.

but first, dividing biden, that's the focus of tonight's angle. exactly three weeks ago today, as major american cities were consumed by writing and looting, joe biden delivered this message. speak of country is crying out for leadership, leadership that can unite us, leadership that brings us together. we stand together finally has one america. we'll drive stronger than we were before. we will move that arc closer to justice. >> laura: no one who has studied politics longer than 5 minutes really believes this. biden has been in office for, what, 40 plus years? what has he been spending his time doing? i could've sworn a buddy of his promise to do all of this, what, 12 years ago? >> i'm absolutely certain that generations from now we will be ableel to look back and tell our

children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs for the jobless. this was the moment when the rise of the ocean began to flow and our planets began to heal. >> laura: the planet starting to heal? what the heck happened? i guess joe is kind of admitting that none of that worked out. i could've said tonight that if obama with his star power and political skill couldn't do any of that, lord knows joe can't but he couldn't lead in the retirement home sing-along let alone the largest military superpower on earth. a unifying force he is not. evident in the past three weeks when biden's campaign tacitly thrown in with the marxist, blm, and antifa forces. they are taking violent writers pledging whatd obama would do in policymaking in 2008, remake

america. in this case if it means disrupting elections, they'll do it. if it means intimidating businesses and individuals to pledge their money and loyalty to this twisted mission, they'll do it. if it requires allowing an artistic burn buildings, desecrate churches, destroy art, literature, movies, monuments, renamed towns and cities, even the country itself? they'll do it. as the mayhem has been coast to, we've heard nary a peep from joe biden who is obviously incapable of campaigning in the traditional sense. statues of president revered by obama himself are being pulled down. this is all sheer insanity. i knowe you wake up in the morning and you go, what country is this i'm living in? it's like a dystopian movie you're watching over and over again. that's the way most normal americans feel. but it's all necessary, this

chaos and mayhem, if your goal is to start the nation over it. begin it all at day zero. they believe you have to annihilate the old traditions to prime the population for a new normal. biden, to the extentxt he even understands is going on at all, seems totally fine with this. to co-opt one of their most tedious mantras, his silence is violence. violence against the political, historical, and cultural landmarks of our nation. joe says nothing one day after day these mucky auto maoists are taking over city blocks, terrorizing small business owners, assaulting americans just because they can. he thinks he supports the good police officers out there but he is mute when videos fly around social media like these. >> [bleep]! every mother [bleep]ing day!

>> you were white and you are telling us to a solid black police officers. do you have a problem with that? >> they are part of a problem! just because they are black doesn't mean they aren't part of the problem. >> laura: doesn't she sound like a lot of fun on a saturday night? do you know why biden doesn't speak out forcefully against this? he can't afford to offend these hemp wearing nasties.p they are the closest he has to a national campaign base. they have energy, well organized, well-funded, they do what biden himself will not do. they will fly all of america to mix it up and based on will se and bait donald trump into action. biden is fine with that. he needst that. in fact, one of biden's only attempt to condemn the violence and destruction was way back in may 31st. he said, we are a nation in pain but we must not allow this pain

to destroy us. we are a nation exhausted, but we will not allow our exhaustion to defeatte us. weak, tepid. corn pop would've done a moreha convincing job than that. the national association of police officers is abandoning biden which is stunning because its members only backed obama in 28 and 2012 because biden was on the ticket. nowld biden's silence emboldens like this. >> spent in his food! put a tampon in his [bleep], if these people come into your place of work, make sure you treat them like [bleep]! >> laura: the main point that everyone watching this needs to understand really clearly, biden equals chaos. his campaign team thinks that he

canan ride this violent anarchy into power right into the white house again. but far from being a uniting force, a biden presidency would usher in a time of division and distrust unlike anything we've experienced in our lifetime, even worse than anything that's happening right now. because his election will notor lead to more calm, but it's going to lead to unrest not in our beleaguered cities, but everywhere. it's going to follow you into your place of work, into your place of worship, into your kids' schools. his entire appeal to moderate voters is that biden is this nice old man who will have a calming effect in these turbulent times. but electing him will not satisfy the violent radicals.n it will only embolden them. and their aim is to undermine our faith in the central itinstitutions and founding principles. will the american people really

allow that to happen? i highly, highly doubt it. this will require that presidents be if i speak confidently about his plans about the future, how things ar. how biden will make things worse and toxic. how we are still one nationy under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. and he's just getting started. and that's the angle. joining me now is mollie hemingway, senior editor at "the federalist" and fox's conservator. mollie, could biden silence on this unrest in the costing him? >> absolutely. it's's a strategy to be silent. a lot of people engaged in violent protest, destruction of statues and other things alarming a lot of the country are a big consensual group for the democratic party and biden serves almost as a trojan horse. he appears to be a moderate or a

less chaotic person in these moms but coming in with these trojan horse that have ideas that frankly are really into fema to a lot of americans shared ideals. freedom of expression, support for the rule of law, the notion of equal justice under the law, that all people should be treated equally. these are things that are not being speaking up enough. a lot of people aren't speaking up against it a enough. and when people are saying that the country is not the most free and prosperous and wonderful nation on earth but this irredeemably evil people should speak up about it and biden should be chief among them. >> laura: he supposedly the standard-bearer of hist countr. none of these leaders on capitol hill, they are all running for the hills, or the pacific heights or wherever it is nancy pelosi is hanging her hat and expensive ice cream. i want to bring in victor davis

hanson, senior fellow. today they are plotting against the emancipation statute in washington, d.c. the statue representing lincoln for freeing the. mostly white people surrounding the statue opining about colonialismil and the evils of american society., that is the biden constituency. they must be satisfied, correct? >> yeah. he's not a master of his own faith anymore, he's a prisoner of his past rhetoric. partly emasculated by the sanders socialist threat, part of it the aoc agenda in the primary. he was almost treated as an intern eat at a reeducation camp in that debate with kemal harris lecturing him. at that point he doesn't have free well anymore, and doesn't understand that the news cycle, month away from a 25th, the story is no longer the horrific

death of george floyd, we want a voice to say, wait a minute, this is anarchy, this is chaos, and biden is so compromised because he is always selected his vice president candidate in terms of race and gender and has already glued himself to the space that he doesn't have free will to speak out. maybe more controversially and i hesitate to say it, when a person has a cognitive problem, the worst thing you can do is relocate in a basement and not have intellectual stimuli. i know that was a strategy and it worked pretty well but the new cycle is progressing at a geometric rate and they need him to come out with that violence in that arena with trump. far from giving him a vacation to relax after the campaign, he's not getting his muscles massaged. he's rushed, the more a person's occludes himself, the less in touch they are. it's count

counterintuitive. >> rusty is a very kind way to describe it. that's a campaign strategy, that's not an c accident. they can't put them out there, they can't debate trump, this whole thing is not going to happen with the debate.in i'm going to say that tonight. i don't believe ultimately if he can do anything to avoid debating trump they won't do it. we've cataloged how extremists, mollie, viciously projecting racism on law enforcement's, classic movies, songs, statues, they are going after nascar as o well. they pounced on the story, they pounded all week and long about a supposed noose found in the garage of black driver bubble wallace that ended up being false, and the fbi was brought in, put all these people on the case. turns out it was just a rope to

shut the garage door but notnt after this exploded onto the scene, mollie, what does this tell us about the media's willingness to jump on these racial narratives and ride them? >> there is an old adage in journalism that if your mother tells her you love them, you're supposed to check them out. we have a medial tend to believe anything if it can advance a political agenda. anyone should've been skeptical of this meaning they checked the story out, check for evidence, learning this was not a noose but a pulley for a garage door handle, it's something that everyone should have been much more cautious. i think many people in our media want to provoke racial conflict. they think that's going to help them politically because they are desperate to make sure their political opponent donald trump does not win. they cannot be honest about the actual state of affairs in this country, they can be honest what

a good country it is. they have to provoke conflict and if that means running stories the evidence isn't in, they are happy t to do it. >> laura: victor, this is what "thehe atlantic"'s jamil jameel hill's had to say. >> a disgusting reminder, i'm curious to see how nascar handles this speak everything i've read, this had to be an inside job. this garage was only open to essential personnel. somebody associated with nascar likely may have been the culprit. >> laura: "likely"... got cut off, but that's a nasty thing to say about your fellow person or man. against instant accusations, instant belief in the worst of other people. >> we are in full jussie

smollett territory. there are lines and revolutionary logic, they -- it's easy to go to an obscure park. but it is a need to go to the next level, it's the washington monument, the jefferson monument, mount rushmore. change the name of stanford university or yell and they aren't going to do that because atli that redline, they start to offend people with real power on the liberal progressive side and the dnc is going to step in and say, wait a minute, joe biden may not be able to stop you from defacing a world war ii monument, but that's i think they are butting up and we've seen the high price of cultural revolution. there is only one person speaking about it, tom cotton, donald trump, a few people. if donald joe biden can't say a thing about it for the reason you described. g >> laura: biden equals chaos,

it will not be quelled if biden wins. mollie in victor, thank you so much for the mostly peaceful protests in lafayette square, nbut they aren't just assaultig police officers, they are also assaulting my next guest. shelby callicott, media reporter at "the daily caller." first i want to show the audience what happened to you last night. watch. >> i think she's serious. i think i she will sleep [bleep] you up. get the [bleep] out. get the [bleep] out. >> laura: they have a code apparently. there has been no action here fore weeks. why did it explode last night out of the blue? i'm not quite sure. i guess likely because they were trying to tear down the statue

in front of the white house shortly before this happened. police came and pushed them back. they were also trying to develop an autonomous zone which didn't work very well, so tensions were high as the night went on. there were a bunch of protesters in shields at the front of the line as you see in the video. i went to film that and they clearly didn't want to be filmed, whatever they were going to do, i don't know. >> laura:y it was really gutsy that you went in there. a lot of male reporters would not. they would find it too scary. congrats to you for doing that. here is the moment that protesters accused you of being, in their mind, the worst thing. watch. >> [bleep] -- >> laura: were of the reporters accused of being

law enforcement or you singled out for some reason? >> for some reason i was singled out. i was with a few of my coworkers who were sort of around me making sure that the situation wasn't going to escalate, which it ultimately did. but for whatever reason, i don't know, i don't know why, but they singled out and decided i was an undercoverut cop. i even showed some of them my bio and my stories to show them i'm clearly not. they were still running with this narrative and they wanted me out of the area. >> laura: shelby, what do they want? what do they really want? >> i couldn't tell you. there were the protesters, one or two ago there who sort of believing where that i was a reporter and they were trying to calm the situation down. we've seen time and time again there is also these groups of people who just become mobs and

thee attack, and it's not even clear what they want because 10 minutes earlier, actually, the same group of protesters were telling us that they wanteh reporters there and they wanted people filming in case the cops did anything wrong, so suddenly they changed their minds. >> laura: shelby, keep doing what you are doing. keep finding out what's really at the heart of this, who's funding it, how it's being organized. that's going to tell us a lot how we go forward. great to see you tonight and glad you are okay. "the ingraham angle" got our hands and never before seen footage on that confrontation between park police and the so-called protesters t in d.c. the truth behind what became a media smear. what can be done to defend our historic monuments from the anarchists? the man with answers, the interior secretary david bernhardt joins us next.

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>> thursday, we are tearing this [bleep] do down! >> laura: i mentioned this a few minutes ago, that's the man monument featuring abraham lincoln funded by donations from former and the

and the keynote speaker frederick douglass. the mob seemed quite please that this, you know what, will be toppled on thursday. where is mayor muriel bowser of d.c.? joining me now is the man whose job it is to preserve such monuments, interior secretary david bernhardt. we all hear from folks across the country, they want these monuments protected and they want to know what the government is doing to protect them. people feel helpless and sometimes hopeless out there when they see these precious works of art being destroyed. what can you tell them tonight? >> well, the trump administration is committed to ensuring that we are safer, stronger, and more prosperous than ever before and the reality is every day or federal law enforcement officers and local police officers are stepping forward every single day to protect us and our

property -- >> laura: mr. secretary, sorry to interrupt you but you don't have to read anything they just speak to me from the heart here. our country is crying out, okay? we respect so much your dedication to the country. i don't mean to interrupt you, but these statues are being ripped down. the administration has done a phenomenal job with the economy, phenomenal job supporting law enforcement. tonight, what can happen? >> a number of things have happened and will continue to happen. this evening, i requested that from the secretary of defense that the national guard be available to us for the initial monuments. earlier today, earlier today i instructedtr the construction oa fence at lafayette plaza as well as st. john's church. we will protect these monuments and we willnu do it with dispath

and severity. last night, park place and the metro d.c. police as well as the u.s. secret service uniformed patrol did an excellent job addressing the issue and rapidly protecting the statue. these people are exceptional, they arere dedicated, and they e dealing with a savagely significant situation. we provide you footage today that shows just exactly how under siege or law enforcement officers have been -- >> laura: we have it, actually. we'll show it, mr. secretary. for weeks the media, they claim that the president had ruthlessly commanded the park police to violently clear out the peacefulr protesters. >> that's outrageous. >> laura: we've got our hands on the camera footage, park police gave it to us, showed us thathe the media was dead wrongt

i want everyone to watch now. >> get him up, get him up! off the grass, off the grass! >> laura: secretary bernhardt, our viewers can see the bricks and other objects being thrown at park police officers far from the peaceful gathering that the media claimed it was morning, noon, and night. what can you tell us about the safety of our park police and their morale after seeing this false reporting? >> first off, in terms of morale coming to of the most dedicated law enforcement officials on the

planet and they are true professionals. they also, i must say, i was out last night with them and i must say they have the patience of job taking some of the stuff they take. i couldn't take it. but here is the reality. many were injured, many are back on the job, and we are bringing in additional supplemental efforts and people and personnel, just like i mentioned, the guard, to ensure that we provide all of the force and all of the resources they need to do their job which is to protect us and our property. >> laura: the president wantser this done but he's very adamant about this. when you see individuals and they are mostly in their 20s or teens screaming at these young men and women, sometimes they are screaming at d.c. police, but other times park police. i mean, i'm enraged for them. >> as i said, the patience of job.

they have the patience of job. their training is so significant. a normal person would not tolerate it. let's just be honest. dedicated to serving the people. every time a monument is destroyed or damaged, that is an injury against all of us. >> laura: why do they get to take our views away and things, some of us like to look at and see? they don't have the unilateral right to take the sights and sounds and views from the rest of the public, especially beautiful monuments. i find the whole thing beyond disturbing. >> we have a process called converse to pass legislation too do that. >> laura: secretary bernhardt, thank you for clarifying this because i think that people need to see that this was happening and these monuments are being protected and your voice is so important tonight. thank you very much. and my next guest predicted if local state and federal leaders

tolerated the so-called autonomous zone in seattle, more would pop up around the country. lo and behold, he was right. anarchists tried occupying that section of d.c. last night. joining me 30 years of experience in counterintelligence. he's also the author of "in their own words." terry, what can be done in your question mike you heard the interior secretary the lay of the land, what's already being done. is there a possibility of the justice department using the rico statutes, the racketeering statutes in this matter? >> this certainly is, laura. there are many statutes that apply, but let's take rico. requires one or more people in a criminal enterprise or organization commit predicate acts, and under rico statutes, there are 35 predicate acts. if any of those crimes are committed by one or two ago or more of the people in that

organization and to go crimes are committed within ten years f with each other, all the membere rico statute. all could be picked up, arrested and tried. that could be done because when you look at what's done in the streets, you've got all kinds of organizations out there. some that we know about and others we know more about. you've got antifog, blm, black lives matter, you've got a number of black power type organizations out there. all of these organizations could be tied to a rico. if they go back and start looking. let's take our sin. we've got our sin and about 50-20 cities the past few weeks. all the arsons will be investigated, you can start talking about rico as an option. you've got counterintelligence options. take a look at the founders of black lives matter. they came out and said, we are

trained marxists. the fbi has all they need to go to talk to them and say, who trained you, they've got another avenue of investigation. >> laura: this is what cnn is reporting on this supposedly autonomous zone came to be. >> i spoke to one of the organization's of what they are calling the "black house autonomous zone." didn't want to give me his real name, picture taken. told me he's 28 years old, from d.c., and this spontaneous move was not planned, something the protesters just are sort of doing spontaneously from one moment to the next. >> laura: this is embarrassing. reporters are supposed to report and dig, let's just take their word for it, the people who spray-painted an historic church in the united states. let's take their word for it. it's all grassroots stuff. do you buy that question mike >> i don't buy it at all before four years, thu media has been giving us those

kind reports. they've denied and denied and denied that people got together and tried to resist president trump to the point of having a coup to get rid of him or getting him out of thee white house. none of this is a good thing and after all this is over, if we get through this contact and still have our constitution and our civil rights, the rest of the 320 million of us, it's going to be interesting that many people will never trust again. it's very fascinating to see. >> laura: this is the final straw that broke the camel's back. great to see you as always tonight. we are witnessing our history being attacked, or streets, buildings renamed, our iconic films are getting warning labels but what comes next? an activist went viral delivering that warning to america and she is here next.

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>> i already lived through this thing when i was living in venezuela. and he change the street names. change the curriculum. i've heard this so many times. but always be on guard. don't believe something can happen to you. you need to guard your country or it'll be destroyed. >> laura: thehe prescient warning for my next guest went viral and it's not hard to see why. marxists tore apart venezuela in the '90s and took latin america's richest and most able democracy to the poverty-stricken dystopia it is today. venezuela isn't the only country to see this and let's make sure we are not next. venezuelan activist elizabeth rogliani joins us now. you made quite a statement in your video. what is america, especially the american youth that are treating

this like it's a carnival, a social justice experiment, you know, their new entertainment. what are they missing? >> i don't think they are thinking fast what's going to happen next. they are thinking they they are just symbols of oppression but d a lot of friends tell me, it's just the confederate statues thatat i said, no, it's not goig to be just the confederate statues. the next thing to me it's going to be all the symbols of the united states. the founding fathers are going to be attacked, probably museums. anything can be attacked if you let it happen. if you let the first one calmed down, nothing -- there is no limits to what is next. >> laura: governor cuomo, elizabeth, is basically saying this is just free expression, it's a good thing. watch. >> people are making a statement

about inequality, about community, to be against racism, against slavery. i think those are good statements. but it depends, can you overdo it? of course you can print but in new york, i don't think we've overdone it and i think it's a healthy expression of people saying let's get some priorities here. >> laura: is that where we are heading when all this is said and done? >> it's not. it's a cultural revolution.it it's the attempt to change the identity of the country. that's my opinion because that's what they did to us. it's a little different but at that point, they had already taken the government. they are trying to change the national identity and trying to destroy the system. if they get to the government, they'll t do it. they certainly will do it. b >> would you be surprised, elizabeth, if other foreign governments were involved in this discontent? i can think of one, it would

probably be china. they would benefit greatly obviously by destabilizing the united states, essentiall espech trump out of the way. >> i would not be surprised if they were involved. another of those videos i made on tiktok he, i was talking abot how the venezuelanth regime, we saw the advent of the blm founders being an ally to the venezuelan regime. i saw pictures of them in 2015, one of the cofounders of the blm movements, went to venezuela and said that she was happy to be in a place with intelligent political to discourse. >> laura: you cannot make it up. elizabeth, we are going to stay in touch with you and connected to you. great analysis. thank you for making us think about this. and my next guest has traveled the world as a journalist. the last 30 years, she witnessed

a lot about what elizabeth rogliani told us about. lara logan, host of "lara logan has no agenda" on fox nation. what does venezuela and russia, the malice cultural revolution, these revolutions always have a plan. what's their plan for the united states? >> if you go to their literature, laura, there is no confusion about their plan. it is a complete rebuilding of the united states according to their political ideology, which means getting rid of the police, getting rid of private ownership of property, and if you think -- and a lot of people will say, that so extreme, that's ridiculous. these people have been around a long time, they are in any threat, this is just a right wing conspiracy theory. what they are ignoring many examples like minneapolis and austin, the city councils have been rezoning single-family

areas and making them multifamily areas only. so you can't have single-family ownership because, guess what? it is racist and discriminatory. because minorities are disadvantaged for they cannot afford a single-family home as much is why people can therefore it has to be changed. these policies have been creeping into government in the united states. all across this country, they are backed by -- what they are, theyt- are the ultraviolent front-line combat troops of an ideology that has political backers you don't see. that is really the most critical thing here because they hijacked a very real agenda of racism and racial injustice, but they are using it to ignite a race war pure they aren't using it to unite the country. they are using it to divide the country, burn it to the ground, a race its history, and take it on the path that they want. but you have to wonder about their political backers, they do not want to live in anarchy. are these people -- that's the question. >> laura: they never do per the upper echelons of the

revolutionary movement always live well, they are always fat and happy, they are always protected, and a lot of people are paying a protection money right now. they are trying to cover their bases here. if this side ends up really winning, they want to hold onto their mansions and they don't want anyone to kick them off their land. i actually hear people speaking on those terms. >> you are exactly right. but unfortunately, there's always a group of elites and always those in power and those in control who lived by a different set of rules. so this idea that they have to take down the t elites and corrt the injustices of the past, they hide behind these issues the same way the hide behind their masks, the same way they hide behind their name. not antifascist fighting fascist, they are another form of fascist fighting for power, they never live like the people they champion bird that's a quote from victor davis hanson.

that's right. they never do. >> laura: the rules never apply to them. they live by their own rules. lara, great to see you tonight. fauci and friends laid down another line of markers that make you wonder if they ever want america to open back up. one of the most renowned epidemiologists in the world is here next to tell us the numbers we should really be looking at. stay there. they line up by the thousands. each one suffering with a story that breaks your heart.

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>> in other areas of the country, we are now seeing a disturbing surge of infections that look like it's a combination. but one of the things is an increase in community spread and that's something i'm really about.oncerned >> laura: but what about the surge in infections that dr. fauci is so worried about? texas is one of the cases were positive covid cases are climbing along hospitalizations which doubled since the beginning of june. the hospitalization of covid cases has remained virtually unchanged during that time, about 8.6%. florida has seen the massive increase in his daily covid case count and hospital admissions including among young people. but here's what senior vp of orlando health said about this

new trend. the acuity is less for folks requiring mechanical ventilation or severe presentations of covid. joining me now is dr. harvey reese, epidemiological e professor at the yale harvard school of health we are seeing the spikes in some cases, but the cases are less severe and the death rate has been gradually declining. now at about a month and a half low. what's going on here? >> good evening, laura bit i think what's happening is all of these patterns take about 4-5 weeks from when the behaviors that underlined them until we can measurel them so we can observe them in the accounts of various numbers. and so what has happened with the's reopening's is that many places young people have not taken the masking in distancing seriously, they have been congregating. the numbers have been going up in those cases as we have seen. florida, texas, oklahoma, so on,

arizona. but they are people who are low risk, so they are not being hospitalized because they can survive as outpatient virtually well with no treatment on the average but what happens then, after 4-5 weeks, those people start to spread it to older people because it is hard to stay out of contact with more or less the rest of the community and so eventually what's going to happen is more of the higher risk people will begin to get infected and you'll begin to see more hospitalizations. but mit for now, places that hae open, hospitalizations have been pretty stable other than in the northeast. >> laura: alabama, one of the early states to open, has not seen an increase significantly on hospitalizations and their death rateot has just gone way down since the very beginning. but dr. birx and some of his friends are reiterating predictions of a second wave. watch.

>> there certainly will be run a virus infections in the fall and winter because the virus is not going to disappear. >> we'll be having considerable coronavirus infections in the fall and winter. >> laura: attenuating and severity of from italian experts, other doctors here. is it a foregone conclusion that there is a second wave in the united states given what happened with sars? >> i think it's not foregone. i think it's possible. it's not likely bit i think the difference is going to be that if this second wave is largely of young people as its progressing now is it might not matter as much. what matters is the hospitalizations and the death spirit really it doesn't matter if it's an influenza-like illness where people get sick and they don't die, though influenza can be serious.

if it's mostly just inconvenient and discomfort, people get through it and move on. the hospitalization stays down in the deaths stay down, why should we worry whether we are having more cases? >> laura: the icu bed scene final rule only in the united states, not in danger of this is what the fda commissioner said about hydroxychloroquine t. >> i can refer the community that the documents we put out over the last several weeks of hydroxychloroquine with respect of the issues, safety alert, particular around the combination of hydroxychloroquine with other drugs that might affect the heart... >> laura: what are you seeing from a very quick? >> i think that's an overreaction. they need to read consider the large-scale multiple thousands of people who have taken it safely. >> laura: thank you soly much. we are going to continue this. we appreciate your expertise as

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>> laura: on the occasion of clarence thomas' birthday today i want to play this moment from an '98 speech where he totally outclassed his critics. >> i've come here today not in anger or to anger though my mere presence has been sufficient obviously to anger some. and come to defend my views but rather to assert my right to dig myself, refused to have my i.d. is assigned to me as though i was an intellectual slave because i'm black. i come to state that i'm a man, free to think for myself and do

as i please. i've come to assert that i am a judge and i will not be consigned d unquestioned opinions of others. >> laura: happy birthday, justice thomas. it was an awesome statement and it was 1998. shannon bream will take it all from here, shannon. >> shann shannon: thank you so much.on we begin with the fox news. protesters back on the streets from atlanta to washington dc as statues are under attack in the president promises jail time for monument vandals, back on the streets of washington. after months of pandemic isolation followed by weeks of protests and violence, some are lighting up the night sky, the wave of fireworks across