the markets, dow, nasdaq, s&p 500 all down today big time closing off of session lows but just barely. that's all for today. neil, you'll be happy to know is back tomorrow. "the five" starts right now. >> dana: hello, everyone. i'm dana perino along with juan williams, greg gutfeld, jesse watters, and dagen mcdowell. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ more chaos and unrest in major american cities. in washington, d.c., the american flag going up in flames and protesters threatening to tear down the lincoln emancipation memorial. the national guard now being called into protect statues in the nation's capital. men with long guns gather in atlanta outside the wendy's where rayshard brooks was killed but some are saying cops are not allowed.

over in wisconsin, things took a violent turn at the state capital, crowds toppling two statues including one on the state kernel. democratic state senator also attacked. president trump promising to stop the vandalism with an executive order, take a look. >> i think many of the people knocking down the statues don't even have any idea with the statue is, they're looking at george washington, looking at abraham lincoln, thomas jefferson, not going to happen. not going to happen, not as long as i'm here. as far as democrats are concerned i think they could care less whether or not it happens and i think the american people get it some are going to have a very strong executive order and it will happen very quickly, before the end of the week.

>> dana: then national guard has been called in and washington, d.c., they will be unarmed. i'm not sure that's the best idea given that some of these have turned quite violent as the state senator in wisconsin found out but at some point in addition to an executive order you have to have some order and how are we going to get that, this continues every single night. >> jesse: the mayors have to step up but they won't so the feds have to back them up. as democrats really align themselves with a great movement, heck of a job, guys. start off okay and then you have a bunch of looters, arsonists, homicidal maniacs, people that want to tear down lincoln. i mean, for a second maybe i guess republicans are on their heels. not anymore. you run against this in the fall, it's a layup. kneeling for the anthem? taking down jefferson? burning things, assaulting gay

progressive politicians in swing states? the democrats had a moment of unity and they destroyed it. the democrats had 80% of what they wanted in this police reform bill and instead of taking data and trying to win back in november and finishing up the last 20%, they tossed it all out because they just want to campaign on the issue, they don't want to solve the issues and now they have 0%. they are not even going to try. this was a part of a time when you had everybody almost in agreement and they threw it away. if the democrats had back to the movement that was nonviolent and had done civil disobedience, maybe that would've persuaded some people but i know a lot of people right now, they're looking around, not talking to pollsters, they're not going to say it. you think they're voting for joe biden after they see what's

going on? they are not voting for joe biden when they see this. and if you look at the people tearing down the statues and assaulting police officers and burning things, do they even look like people that vote? they don't look like the most acidic-minded, responsible people you know what i mean. so i'd be careful if i tried to ride this wave in november. >> dana: i do want to ask about the police reform bill, juan, because there was, for two weeks two weeks bipartisan agreement, police reform is needed and necessary, the house put forward a bill, the senate put forward a bill. direct language from, harris' bill. gary peters bill, and still they declined to allow allow it to go to boat. >> were going to have to face

the reality of police brutality, the rally of the need for justice and police shootin polid the recognition that there are many good people in law enforcement but not all but so far they were trying to get away with murder, the murder of george floyd. >> dana: how can anyone with a good conscience say that but also, if you're the speaker of the house, aren't you supposed to want to try to get legislation passed? >> juan: i think she does want to try to get legislation passed, she doesn't want week legislation that would not take advantage of this moment where so many people are outraged by what happened with george floyd, you saw today some police officers were charged in the ahmaud arbery case. >> dana: not the police

officers, the people got indicted were not on duty officers. but what about the fact that nancy pelosi says that there are republicans who universally agree that what happened to george floyd was a murder was outrageous and they wanted to do police reform and she said that, she thinks it's a weak bill, that the murder of george floyd is now on the republicans? >> juan: no, she saying that they are trying to move away from the power of this moment with a week bill, dana, and i think she has a very good point. they didn't even ban this choke business so to me you want something that has significance, that speaks to the tower up to my power moment. when you cherry pick some of these instances of violence and violence is always bad, you have to keep in mind that it's not representative of the power of this moment. it reminds me of people here in

washington, d.c., senator sue said they did not want to have a march on washington, they feared there would be violence or george wallace was that i don't want to march across the bridge because it will tie up traffic, those people are missing the power of this moment which is black and white americans coming together to address racism in this country. >> dana: all right, but is it eclipsing the moment when you have situations like this, greg? take a look at what happened to andrea mitchell over at msnbc and in washington yesterday. what do you think, greg? >> greg: i love the hair. i have to say, dana, i didn't know you were so fast. andrea mitchell shows two sides of the media, right? the fake and the real.

the fake side is there is an epidemic of police violence. that's the fake. the real help, i need the police, the perfect comparison is liberals are of a party of compassion, they're destroying our country. private property, public property, people are beating them up. this is a trump's america. no, this is what happens when you let the insane take over the asylum. the left no doubt commits an overwhelming bulk of violence. yet their ideology gets a total pass historically and even today by the media, academia, entertainment. no one is talking about this stuff, they are too busy pointing at the trump rally who basically just wave flags. these people burn flags and i am kind of over this like, but you know, protesting is such an important part of america.

we get that, you need a new line because this isn't protesting, every day that you apologize for this stuff, juan, you let the country suffer and democrats, you've got to understand, liberals, you have to understand, this isn't the same left that you are use to, this is a different kind of left wing. the left before allowed for dialogue, conversations, debates. the modern left are not interested in opening your mind unless it's with a crowbar and you're being false to your party and falls to the people that are your friends by denying that this isn't a bad scene, a destructive scene and something that's going to destroy this country, you've got to stop apologizing for this. >> juan: i'm not apologizing, by the way, that's not what i'm saying at all but i know we need to move on. let me just say that's not what i'm saying, it's a total distortion of what i'm trying to say here. >> dana: i do want to get

dagen in because all this is happening while the country is trying to reopen, you still have tens of millions of people unemployed, food bank lines are overwhelmed and we are not focusing on trying to deal with that problem because if you have violence, that is what it's going to be the headline of the day. >> dagen: violence made worse by governors and mayors of left-wing cities. i call it the left wing -- nancy pelosi and her ilk in washington are trying to blame president trump for all of this and give cover and make excuses for all these people running these cities who are showing willful blindness to murder and mayhem and lower income neighborhoods and minority neighborhoods. they govern like they have a deep, abiding hatred of the people and their cities. it is disgusting and it is going to give rise to vigilante justice taking up arms in legal aids, because you know what?

small shop owners and individual citizens have -- they are not rich, they don't have security with them like andrea mitchell. they have to fend for themselves and they're going to wind up paying gangsters to protect them because governors and mayors won't and don't. >> dana: all right. good talk, everybody. coming up, a big legal win for michael flynn. i love how that rhymes. more on that, next. ♪ -excuse me. uh... do you mind...being a mo-tour? -what could be better than being a mo-tour? the real question is... do you mind not being a mo-tour? -i do. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.

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ordering the judge to drop the criminal case, here's a reaction from president trump. >> what happened to general general flynn should never happen again in our country, persecuted and many other people were persecuted, the obama administration in the campaign, this is just the first run, he's been exonerated and i want to congratulate him, he's been through a lot, he's been through a lot pay a great, great fortitude. >> juan: dagen, let me start with you, this is a very curious case in my mind as i understand it, mr. flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi, the president when he fired him said mr. flynn had lied but now the president said michael flynn was persecuted, what do you make of this? >> dagen: nobody lies when they are -- when the feds are trying to bankrupt them and destroy their families, nobody would ever be coerced into a

confession, right? the problem as there was not enough evidence to ever prove this in a court of law. you know who didn't think michael flynn was lying? the two fbi agents who originally questioned him. they also never advised him of his rights, a confession in a court of law would not of been admissible, my advice is if the feds ever, calling, i said this when martha stewart was on trial, don't you talk to them. don't even belch in their presence. >> juan: dana, today you had an assistant prosecutor, one of the chief prosecutors and the roger stone case say he was pressured by the trump administration to go easy on roger stone. over the weekend we saw the u.s. attorney for the southern district of manhattan who is investigating trump associates fired and now the flynn case, is there a pattern of the justice

department going easy on the president's friends associates? >> dana: i think the democrats are trying to establish a pattern but each of those things are separate. on michael flynn i would say that his decision to fire his original lawyer and replace them with sydney powell of texas is probably going to go down as one of the best moves the defendant has ever. the original lawyer i charge $6.7 million and i you have this lawyer from texas, she is a boss lady, comes in and figures it out and i think that it will be interesting to see how this all turns out because you still have two investigations into the origins of this wage doesn't have anything to do with today, it's something separate but i anxiously await that conclusion of that investigation because i think we need to hear that well before the election.

>> juan: we had a transcript released by the trump administration, it showed flynn talking with the russian ambassador about sanctions on russia and of course he denied that he had those conversations so again, it's just curious to me, isn't that evidence that he lied? >> jesse: no, he never said that, he said he couldn't remember if he talked about them or not and if you look at the transcript, he never says the word sanction, he says reciprocal responses are nice try. it was a very interesting question you asked about whether the justice department has taken it easy on trump associates. where have you been for the last three years? they've all been charged with a crime, i don't know where that came from and by the way, if my children were threatened to be locked up if i didn't cop a plea, i'd copped a plea. you have sons, if they threaten to lock up your son, you'd

copped a plea. it's not a crime to change your plea. if you had a real reporter in this country maybe next time they see joe biden, i see asking joe biden, hey, why did you bring up the logan act and say you had no idea about the flynn case? maybe ask barack obama, what did you mean when you told james comey you wanted the right people to investigate michael and? >> simple question, what did he mean? >> juan: this wasn't the media, this wasn't the democrats, this was president trump saying that mike flynn is exonerated. do you think that's right? >> greg: yeah. absolutely right. first of all, if they ever threatened to imprison my children i would never copped a plea because i hate children. this was a prolonged injustice, directed at a patriot who is simply trying to get ahead and do his job, get ahead on his new

job and serve his country but he got singled out simply because the skittish little bureaucrats couldn't stand the new boss and so they took it out on him. the media were on to it like junkies, vilification became their drug and blinded them from seeing exactly what was being done to an innocent man. there you go. that's my summary. >> juan: all right. ahead, don't miss greg's monologue on the media's coverage of the bubble wallace's story. that's all for you next on "the five." ♪

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hatred overnight, a noose was found hanging in bubba wallace's garage. >> a noose was found hanging in the garage of bubba wallace. >> an ugly message of hate was placed in his garage. >> i think it's incredibly upsetting and discouraging that this was found -- >> greg: this prompted much support from nascar which was very nice. the real news came out. the noose was a garage door poll that had been around well before bubba never arrived. it was a misunderstanding. it wasn't his fault, he was told about it. time to move on, media. except some can't, not when they've sunk so much effort into this. right? >> it's clear what a noose represents an end someone know the stall when they did belatedly assign bubba that. i don't think we've seen closure

in this particular instance. >> greg: how does al still get a pass on this stuff? it's as if all the anchors that interview him willfully forget even after fb adds 15 agents concluded that he wasn't a hate crime victim of the media still shouldn't let it go so what should end up a as a mix up becomes media-driven race bait. getting the athlete on. it's not fair to bubba. the good news, a racist act turns out once again turns to not be racist at all. the bad news is, the race-baiters don't care. for the media evidence of racism is a good thing, their way of weaseling out of their role and unleashing the lie. people who said it was a garage door pole were called conspiratorial. people who saw the obvious explanation for a rope tied to a garage door where the whack jobs versus those who saw it as a racist lie. turns out that half of the

suburban homes in america are guilty of systemic racism. just days after noose is discovered in a park turned out to be exercise rings installed by a black man. again, it's a contrast. the left commits genuine acts of deadly violence and its called protest. nonexistent crime is blamed on the law-abiding public so who is hoping for hate? look for the people with the press passes. i don't want to read the statement from bubba wallace, it's actually a really good one if they put it on the prompter. "it's been an emotional a few days. first off i want to say how relieved i am that the investigation revealed that this wasn't what we feared it was. i want to thank my team, nascar, and the fbi for acting swiftly and treating this as a real threat. i think we will gladly take a little embarrassment over what the alternative could have been. make no mistake, though some will try, this should not from the show of unity we had on

monday. on the progress in being welcoming environment environment for all. dana, you are the public relations maven. that was a great statement, i thought. because he was able to admit that it's better off not having a hate crime and looking silly. however, why did he have to go on don lemon and these other shows and -- this would've been perfect, the best response. >> dana: i am not able to really put myself in his shoes because i have not lived his life and when the news first broke that this was a possibility, it's important for the media to remember to use this really great adjective called "alleged." journalism class day one and every day after that but it moved quickly and look, it wasn't outside the realm of possibility that it could have happened and i think what bubble wallace is trying to say in that stack and second statement is

lookout swiftly everybody moved. because everyone was mortified that this might've happened, horrified that this would've happened. for all those out there protesting, though racism in our police forces and how we do policing, look how quickly everyone came together. 15 fbi agents within a day handled it so there has been progress. doesn't mean that is in or to be more reform, we can and should do more reform but i think that is something he was trying to say and he's a young man and he was thrust into a position of leadership and i encourage him to keep going. >> greg: you are our nascar expert, was it nascar that reported this? i'm still confused how this all happened. >> dagen: my understanding is it was some people on bubble

bubba wallace's team that reported it to nascar. what they did, they released a statement, there was a hate crime investigation, a noose was found, no photo. if anybody had seen the photo they would've known what it was. a garage door pole fashioned in the shape of a noose. what nascar did was management set a fire in order to put out the fire. because this hate crime investigation dovetails really nicely with their recent p.r. push, doesn't it? and i can tell you i know a lot of people who worked in this sport, when they heard this and saw the statement they immediately knew it was a misunderstanding. they knew exactly what was going on but the people like the rest of this country who work in nascar, they better shut up, they're not allowed to speak up because they will be called a racist and they will be fired and they are barely hanging onto their jobs as it is because most

of them have gotten dramatic pay cuts so shame on nascar, the management. >> greg: juan, what you make of this whole situation? >> juan: i guess i have a question, seems to me the media was right to report on an fbi investigation into an explosive incident, potentially could have blown up and it comes in a moment when nascar was banning the use of the confederate flag which made it all the more topical it seems to me. you think about the noose and the symbol, it's not that bubble put it there, not at all and he didn't even find it. that's a pretty powerful symbol, you can understand why people would want to talk about it and find out what was going on. i think nascar should be saluted because they've taken a lot of

grief over banning that confederate flag symbol, people flying airplanes with it over the raceway and the like and i think they are taking a stance and we should all be congratulating them. >> greg: jesse, i think everybody i knew knew how this was going to turn out but nobody could say it, just like what happened in the playground, everybody who is sensible and has common sense and the good b.s. detector knew what this was but you're not allowed to say it. >> jesse: it's better to wait 48 hours and the truth comes out. i don't know if it was a misunderstanding or something worse, we still don't even know if it was a noose or not, the fbi said they are trying to determine if it was an actual noose or a rope with a circle at the end, it wasn't so much that the media covered it, it was the way they covered it. to dana's point, there was a

noose found and it was targeting this black driver. if you can say claim was made, allege it noose was found. it was couched irresponsibly, i understand why nascar kicked it up to the fbi because they don't want to be in charge of saying no, just a misunderstanding and dismissing it, they want to make sure an official law enforcement agency locks this down definitively and that's what they did. >> greg: it was basically a handle to pull down the garage door. otherwise known as fake news. ahead, a battle of the presidents with trump and obama going after each other. that's next. ♪ into a smaller life?

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>> jesse: this is going to be fun to watch for the next couple months. >> dana: i have a feeling if they're going to do more of these virtual fund-raisers they both might want to take a shot of espresso right beforehand just to pump it up a little bit, also so confused about the empty bookshelves behind president obama. greg, you might want to send in some of your new books, he might enjoy that. i've always believed that president trump really wanted to run against barack obama and vice versa, these are two people that would've loved to have gone against each other in the campaign but president trump got the dash when you're dealt the card, he got hillary clinton as his candidate and that certainly helped propel to win but obama and biden raised $11 million last night. obama will be a net plus for biden on the campaign trail, no doubt.

>> jesse: no doubt about that. greg, what'd you think about barack obama's black on black gear? i liked it, looks like you. >> greg: i like -- what i like about him is he looks like he's from the future. like hello, america. i come to you with a very serious message from the future, you must elect this very old man to my left who can barely speak. this is the plan. there were no specifics about donald trump achievement. you operate in the general reality, brings terrible -- he's a terrible character in the white house, they don't have the specifics but they can't let joe go up against trump because it's like bambi versus godzilla, which is a great movie. obama is more relaxed and actually coherent on like joe which makes me think there aren't going to be any debates because i don't think joe should

be debating trump, i think he should continue huddling in his closet with a case of insurer and an old stack of "national geographic"'s because the moment he gets on stage it's going to be an ugly, ugly scene. >> jesse: day again, that one up. >> dagen: vice president joe biden is clearly serious about wanting the presidency because he's got almost 20 years on president obama and among biden, obama, and president trump, joe biden's face is certainly more taut than the other two so his works as it is very serious and i speak from personal experience, i can say that. >> jesse: all right, juan. >> juan: look at what

president obama is doing, i think he saying to the democratic base, don't be complacent. i don't think there's any mystery there and the reason is "the new york times" poll out today has biden up by 14 points. that follows fox poll that had biden up by 12, cnn poll plus 14. so i think that when you hear president trump going after obama, does anybody remember what happened in obama gait? is just a big nothing, hearing people at his rally shout "lock her up," these are old reruns, summer reruns and i think america doesn't like it and that's what you're seeing. he's not doing so well and he does and how to deal with it. >> jesse: i'm not so sure. if i was a trump supporter and "the new york times" called me to ask i was going to vote, i don't know. that might explain some of the polling. the mullet making a big comeback.

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>> dagen: welcome back. lockdown weary drivers are now forgetting the rules of the road. people are making simple mistakes, being confused about what to do with all those petals. jessie, you look like a terrible driver. >> jesse: why would you say that? [laughter] i am an excellent driver and i take offense to that and i'm not talking to you anymore. >> dagen: you're not talking to me? dana, you can talk. >> jesse: . >> jesse: i'm offended and i'm not talking. go ahead, dana. >> dana: when we moved to new york city i stopped driving because i was too afraid to drive in the city but because of the pandemic i actually drove in the city. now, it was like driving in downtown newcastle wyoming because there was nobody on the road but i actually have improved my driving skills during coronavirus. >> dagen: .

greg? >> greg: was the study of u.k. drivers, they already drive on the wrong side of the road so actually this means if they are driving poorly there actually driving better. >> dagen: [laughs] long? >> juan: well yeah, picking up on it, it is a british study so their number one problem was stalling because people are getting back into manual cars and not shifting properly. that's not a problem for us, americans drive automatic cars. our problem is more what dana was saying, the streets are empty and there are people who were speeding, too many people decide, i can fly down the road now. >> dagen: or ride a scooter, i saw somebody take a big spell on a scooter earlier today. somebody better tell billy ray cyrus the mullet is back, like it or not. the business in the front, party in the back hairdo making a big return during the lockdown or

>> greg: at the mullet isn't coming back. what's happened is because were using smartphones, all the time we are like this and its four-star heads into a permanent tilt and it's forcing our scalp backward so it appears to be a mullet when it's just that our face has moved. the hair hasn't changed but the face has moved. >> dagen: dano? >> dana: i encourage all men to really go for this look, i find it extremely attractive, the mullet is amazing. >> dagen: wan? >> juan: if it makes you happy, go for it. i don't know. >> dagen: my favorite mullet is carol brady's mullet. jesse? >> jesse: do you see anything? look at that. a little action back there, got a little bit. look at that. look at that. >> dana: you are also getting a little thing on the side. >> jesse: don't say that. now i'm mad at both of you

women. >> greg: [laughs] >> dagen: jesse has tennis pro hair, country club hair. >> greg: he's got game show host hair from the 70s. >> dana: we only make fun of your hair because it looks so good. >> dagen: exactly. i can create a mullet, by the way. it kind of looks like it. right? "one more thing" is up next. ♪ mornings were made for better things than rheumatoid arthritis. when considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz a pill for adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis when methotrexate has not helped enough. xeljanz can reduce pain, swelling, and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections like tb

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[laughs] i love how his eyes rolled back in his head, he's the best. barney. also if you don't want to yon you up to take out the new podcast, we tell you a lot about the statutes, the history of them, a good little lesson there about lafayette, if you will. jesse? >> jesse: let's see it. wow. that's the outfit i would wear to write a short? not so sure but i would like you. >> greg: jesse. jesse, somebody should tell cnn that this is photoshopped before they do a fact-check. >> jesse: this is a digitally altered image, cnn. all right, so you guys want to see some jaw-dropping video? watch this. >> greg: what is he doing? >> dagen: abusing that animal. >> greg: what is he doing?

>> jesse: look at this guy. he caught a shark, had a little hook in his mouth, he showed everybody its sharp teeth, took the hook out and let it swim away. i think you're right, i think shark attacks are not that dangerous, i think it's overhyped by the mainstream media and if you see a shark go right up and grab it and show everybody its teeth. >> dana: these are alleged shark attacks. greg, you're next. >> greg: i'm pretty open minded about all kinds of relationships but what that man and that shark were doing in public was sickening and there were children around, take that stuff inside. let's do this. ♪ ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great >> greg: today i woke up and asked myself, you know what i want to see? i want to see a baby rhinoceros

getting a sponge bath so i demanded it and i got it. here it is. check out this little devil getting his little body clean with a little room, he's got his own little stand that he can lean against while he gets adorable. much better than a dog yawning, that's for sure. seriously, dana, way to mail it in. >> dana: i thought that was pretty cute. barney. all right, juan. >> juan: get ready for some high wire thrills from the swiss alps, take a look at this daredevil in a suit and bow tie performing on the edge of a mountain. he's a seventh generation circus performer who has broken several world records. but there was no audience for this circus. this glacier 3,000 air show was put on to show support for

circus performers around the globe who are out of work because of the coronavirus. but even the virus couldn't stop him, couldn't stop that stunt. the show must go on. >> dana: and that is not digitally altered. that gave me -- day again, you're next. >> dagen: am i wrong to say that doesn't look that hard? >> greg: i agree. i agree. >> dagen: what's the big wolf? you know? if they just open the parks and whatnot we could get that on in new york city. so more animals, take a look at this. a mob, a small collection of kangaroos just bounded down the street and west are not australia, they live on a nearby golf course apparently, a local sanitation worker film to the group popping through the streets. apparently there are twice as many kangaroos in australia as

people. makes me want to move there. >> dana: that could help in new york, we could try that. that's it for us. "special report" is up next. we will see you tomorrow. bye-bye. >> bret: good evening and welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, we are coming to you from the j. edgar hoover federal building in washington. the washington headquarters for the federal bureau of investigation. we will have an exclusive interview with christopher wray, applications after the george floyd killings, talk about the investigation into the origins of the russian interference in 2016 and the trump campaign, all of it open in this interview with the directory in just a moment but first. breaking tonight as well, federal appeals court has ordered charges to be