sean will be right back here on monday. i hope you all have a great weekend. "the ingraham angle" is coming up next. ♪ ♪ >> hi, everyone, i'm tammy bruce in for laura ingraham, and this is a special edition of "the ingraham angle" from new york city tonight. jerry nadler is claiming antifa is imaginary. i'll talk to a former member of the extremist group, the violent extremist group, about how rhetoric just like that only emboldens them. plus, "the new york times" 1619 project in our schools, it's in there, you know, at its indoctrinating young children, now we are learning disturbing new details about its creator. and the leftist media is giving cuomo a pass while launching disgusting allegations against president trump. the worst in media is back.

plus, two dozen student groups are issuing vague racial demands from stanford university. one student is standing up to them. laura will be here with that interview. but first, the left is trying to turn the tables and flame conservatives, you guys, for perpetuating the council culture. "newsweek" is now claiming that conservatives are weaponizing it to "tame antiliberal anti-trump celebrities," as though they needed to be tamed. and of course, some of the anti-trump celebrities being exposed as hypocrites are hyping this claim. alyssa milano is an example, retweeted the article, but was of course immediately marked for doing so. joining me now is mark hemingway, senior writer at real clear investigations, and sara carter, fox news contributor and host of "the sara carter show" podcast. welcome to both of you, great to see you. >> great to see you come too. >> tammy: mark, look, what is fascinating here, a tactic to

accuse others of what you are doing. they really can't be serious, can they? are conservatives in some way, are we pushing the council culture on everyone at this point? >> i mean, this is absurd. for the hard left to complain about conservatives here, this is like dr. frankenstein saying "who put this big ugly monster in my laboratory?" it's ridiculous. they created this mess, and if they want out, they have to embrace free speech and tolerance like the rest of us. >> tammy: what seems to me, sara, when they began to try to retreat a little bit in this w way, limning others, it might indicate they realize something has gone too far. could the jimmy kimmel situation in other situations now be making them realize that they are not going to be immune from this? >> i don't know. i hope so. i hope that, tammy, but i have a feeling that they want to continue to pursue and push forward -- they don't care if they victimize others in their group.

some of them feel that they will never be caught, they think they are above reproach, right? they believe it only goes one way, so i don't think they mind eating their own as long as they get what they want in the end. i do think that some of them have regretted it, like jimmy kimmel and others, and they're probably sitting back wondering what is going on. i can tell you at the rest of america, when i'm out here in utah and when i travel to other places throughout the country and i talked to people, they just wonder what's going on? they say it's not like that here in our communities in the midwest and small towns. we are not operating this place. they see what is happening with council culture and what's happening with their children's and what has happening in the major cities and they are worried. >> tammy: perhaps they should be, because marked, a lot of this, especially as covered by media, the target is the subject of that matters, but really, the larger messages to everyone else, that if we can get rid of

this person, imagine what we can do to you, very much, mark, it's much like a kind of cultic training about making people afraid, speaking up or speaking their minds or saying nothing because they don't know what to say. >> that's exactly right, it's very much about intimidation, not only about intimidation, you're right, what they are trying to do is there trying to, like, make you afraid to the point where you just break and go along with what they are doing. and we can't let that happen. i do think that there is some encouraging signs. i have seen people who are, you know, out and out liberals but still care about free speech and understand the dangers here, not going to go along with something essentially cultural marxism. and we need to, you know, find common cause with the right people and push back against this hard, because they are making up the rules as they go along, and in those kind of conditions, like sara said, they are not afraid to eat their own. nobody is going to survive in that environment, the mob will

come for everyone sooner or later. >> tammy: at some point, they might come for us with masks in their hands, because i want you bring up some thing else here for us. here is how joe biden wants to use federal power if he were to ever become president. listen to this. >> i would insist that everybody in public be wearing that mask, anyone to reopen would have to make sure that they walk into a business that had masks. >> would you use federal leverage to mandate that, though? >> yes. >> would you? >> from an executive standpoint, yes. >> you would, in effect, mandate the wearing of masks? >> i would do everything possible to make it required that people had to wear masks in public. >> tammy: wow. mark, is this -- i'm not a lawyer, you guys aren't lawyers, but when we at least from our experience as journalists, as investigators, as commentators, in life, it seems a little odd that someone as president could mandate you having to wear something. what are your thoughts on this?

>> well, i mean come in the middle of a situation like a pandemic, the federal government obviously has broad latitude to do a lot of things they wouldn't normally be able to do, but this is very much a gray area. we would be redundant with a lot of existing laws at the state level, mask requirements of the state level, and it would be very, very hard to enforce. i'm not sure it should be a priority for the federal government. but further, if people aren't wearing their masks -- and i think they should wear this -- >> tammy: sure. >> if they are not doing that, people in the federal government need to ask themselves why? because the federal government and public health officials, you know, sacrifice a lot of institutional credibility over the last couple of months -- >> tammy: let me get sara into this, as well. this is now part of it, as well. we're looking at a growing illegitimacy of some sense, and americans are a different breed of people, if you will come and we need to be able to take the government seriously. sara, do you think that is something americans will ever accept? >> no, this is the united states

of america, and all of the federal government has a wide latitude, it's up to the individual state, every state, unfortunately, affected by covid-19, has dealt with this in their own way, in the best way possible. some states have done better than other states, but it is not up to the federal government to babysit americans. americans are smart. americans take responsibility for their actions, and if they don't, then, of course, a price pay for that. we have liberty and freedom here. >> tammy: thank you, sara. that is why we are a republic. both of you, thank you very much for joining me tonight. i appreciate it. market sara come have a good night. and malcolm a federal today snatching back at andrew cuomo and bill de blasio -- i'm glad somebody is, a ruling that new york was wrong to limit worship services during the pandemic. the ruling stated governor cuomo and mayor de blasio could have

easily discourage protests instead of encouraging what they knew was a flagrant disregard of the outdoor limits and social distancing rules, but by acting as they did, governor cuomo and mayor de blasio sent a clear message that mass protests are deserving of preferential treatment. joining me now is maria months alvarado, vice president and executive director of the becket fund for religious liberty come a great group that does great work. maria, this is very important, because we all saw the hypocrisy unfolding, but why did this case succeed in other cases against restrictions on religious gatherings in particular failed? >> you know, that is a really great question. at this moment, the facts have changed, the fact on the ground are different. you have protesters outside, and government officials who are participating in protests that looked quite similar to -- protest that of people kneeling in moments of silence, praying together, wrist know my processions on the street and mayor de blasio made it clear

he was against -- when he deliberately went after the jewh community, targeting them in very anti-semitic ways, and making choices, he is choosing to favor the protesters and not support the religious freedom of this community. >> tammy: with interest income too, a very good point, because what we see in the demonstrations, even sometimes the riots, this kind of tone and attitude, you know, of gathering, of sermons, encouragement, of acting as a group, and yet, of course, it seems to many people that because it served the liberal narrative, if you will, and some argue that the presumption is if you are a person of faith that you perhaps were not following the liberal narrative, that people were being restricted more if they were seen to be either conservative or were attending to be conservative, would you agree with that at al? is very political sensibility to

the nature of the choices here? >> the government doesn't get to pick winners and losers when it comes to free speech. the streets are open for, saying it is okay for protests, closed for a jewish funeral services and playgrounds, is against the law. >> tammy: you know, it is come and listen to this. when we think about the attitudes against, the problem with people gathering, condemning of it if it came to religious services, or even going to the beach, but listen to these democratic lawmakers when it came to the demonstrations. >> i'm proud of new york, and i'm proud of the protests, and i think it's part of a tradition of new york. >> the protesters are basically right. >> is about a deep, deep american crisis. i'm sorry, that is not the same question as a devout religious person who wants to go back to services. >> tammy: you have to wonder, it's like, what would draw him to that conclusion, maria?

to you have idea? >> you know, when the protest happened, the masks came off, there was no longer trying to keep mass gatherings from happening, just like you said, that look like worship services, the government side-by-side. the government was deftly making a statement and they were making very specific statements about the kind of things they want to support and the kind of activities they want to support, those are political statements, real statements, and against the first amendment. >> tammy: maria -- >> a double standard. >> tammy: i want to thank you on the becket fund because these are things that seem obvious to all of us, but they are can be no change unless something like this moved through a court, and we get a judgment like this. it judges can't do it on their own. the becket fund does this work, you do this work, and i appreciate it. i know everyone does. maria, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> tammy: my pleasure. now, president trump signed an executive order today to crack

down on the desecration of public statues and monuments. the order also withhold federal funding, and this is new, from states and localities that fail to protect monuments from anarchists seeking to destroy them. here to tell us more is ken cuccinelli, the acting dhs deputy secretary. can, welcome aboard, thank you for joining me tonight. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> tammy: a lot of us were calling and waiting for the president, the federal government to do more, as we were all watching the chaos unfold in a variety of different cities, mostly blue cities, with leadership that encouraged them, or at least supported them. so this is good news, it does seem to go past just prison time, deal with a federal statute, but encourage local governments from doing something. what else should we need to know about this order today? >> well, i think you touched on one of the unique things that i think surprise some people is going beyond just protecting the

statues and federal property, of which there are hundreds across the country, and that's something that the president has surged federal law enforcement to do. whether it is washington, d.c., or cities around the country, you seem federal reinforcements playing a role, whether it's surveillance they are sharing with state and local law enforcement, or whether they are taking the responsibility on themselves. if so, when you go beyond that to some of the federal dollars t stake, you obviously bring a whole new side of this into play, and i can tell you is a former state legislator, if you want to get state legislators and governors attention, talk to them about their pocketbooks. and when they are busy not enforcing the law, that's something that is legitimate to bring into play, and president trump has put it firmly o on the table. >> tammy: well, that is good news. it is a start, isn't it? because what i hear from my radio listeners, viewers of fox, people just everywhere, is there

concerned regarding the mayhem. and that you have the police watching, because either they have orders to stamp down, or there are other dynamics happening, and we know that this will probably be pushed back against in court, but when it comes to watching this chaos, what else, if anything, could the federal government do? we know there are limits. we are not children, we understand this. but we also see anarchy. we expect the federal government to go in and stop at some point. is there any way that that can be engaged so that we just don't see this unfolding throughout the country for the next hundred and 30 days and beyond? >> well, in fact, that has been engaged in around the country, whether washington, d.c., or a new mexico, or in portland, we can go around the country, and i can rattle off places where federal forces have been employed to deal with local violence, not to peaceful protest and violence, and that's

still going on. the president still has us leaning forward doing bad. you don't hear a lot of that -- >> tammy: have there been arrests? how many arrests have there been? we know they are televised events, felonies are occurring -- >> there are. yes, there have been arrests. >> tammy: how many? >> there have been arrests, but i don't actually know the total number, but it is an enormous number, and i will tell you, there are a large number of federal investigations going on right now, following up on the violence you've seen, the destruction you've seen. those are things that are ongoing -- >> tammy: sir, we -- >> dhs are involved in the investigation. >> tammy: we appreciate investigations. i believe attorney general barr has a new committee he has formed of the agencies to look at this. but the american people, for generations, have listened to panels and investigations, it's always going on. this is in the immediacy, every day, in our lives, thank

goodness it's not national, in every city, but it's in cities -- you must know, and i know the president knows, and i trust his judgment -- we all know it's unique. we know this is unprecedented. but we do expect action beyond the releasing of a flyer or the putting together of a committee. i think you can understand that. >> well, frankly, arrests and investigations are what the federal government does as a lead up to prosecution. they don't happen at the snap of a finger. we have to build the cases and we have to bring them to reports -- >> tammy: of course. >> and win cases. it's all being built, that's all being done all over the country. >> tammy: we would love to see the numbers of the arrests, people who have been arrested pulling on statues, defacing public property, setting things on fire, i would love to do -- i will check with your office, that would be great. i'll get those numbers, and we can let everybody know that you guys have been active. that would be fabulous. well, thank you, sir. >> we would be glad to do that. >> tammy: i appreciate that.

>> we are going to keep pushing hard for my daughter. >> tammy: that's what we need. thank you, sir, i appreciate you joining me tonight. speaking of anarchists, dripping down statues, here's what congressman jerry nadler said about provisions in the g.o.p.'s police reform bill to go after antifa. >> their amendments, about half of them listed here, or arrant nonsense off-topic, dealing with imaginary things like antifa. >> tammy: wow, so there you go. my next guest is a former member of that imaginary thing. he looks like a real guy to me. a former antifa member. he says ignoring the group like what nadler is doing only allows the threat they pose to this country, obviously, to multiply. gabriel odalis joins us now. gabriel, thank you for coming on. i appreciate it. you do look like a real person, certainly not imaginary.

i come from that side of politics. a community organizer, and i know when the effort is to pretend that something doesn't exist, it so we won't deal with it. what you think will happen with this kind of attitude? is this a message to antifa that they are supported, or -- how will they respond to this? >> well, let's look at what representative nadler is saying. he is saying this is imaginary, that's just false. i mean, the only thing that's imaginary here is representative nadler's sense of justice. i mean, the protests i attended, they weren't imaginary. also, the windows that i regrettably broke, they weren't imaginary, yet every single time we had left-wing politicians like representative nadler denying and ignoring to justify antifa violence is only going to continue to grow. >> tammy: this is come i think, why we see all this chaos growing, because it hasn't been any reaction, in and of itself it's so none of this is happening, and

law enforcement, leadership is not condemning it. it's like a green light. you were a member, i was a member of the organizations, i also regret, one of the great things about america as we get enough information to where we can change our minds about who we aren't what we are doing. and by what happened with you when it comes to the choice to be part of that coming out to be condemning it? >> yeah, before i joined what's called antifa, i was already indoctrinated by a lot of my teachers, as well as spanish media, and i was precondition to believe that america was my enemy, not because america rejected me, but because i kept being told that i was a victim. thankfully, i started asking questions about this movement, and really -- just like you said, i got the information that i needed, and i realized that being part of antifa is something i should never have been part of, and now i'm glad i'm condemning it. one thing to remember is where is antifa really coming from?

because of mr. nadler thinks it's imaginary, well, it's coming oftentimes from college campuses. >> tammy: sure. >> there is a professor out there who wrote a book called "antifa," and so many other professors promote this type of violence. >> tammy: gabriel, we all kind of living on campus now and we ignored it, now it's moving to the mainstream element of the nation, but leadership in washington to say it doesn't even exist shows you i think also that they are worried if it is exposed, so i want to thank you, gabriel, for joining me tonight. thank you for your insight, i appreciate it. coming up, "the ingraham angle" has exposed ali 1619 project is poisoning our education system tonight, but tonight we have shocking new details about the projects creator and the toxic hate she has been spreading for years. do not go away, we will be right back.

♪ >> tammy: by now, most of you have probably heard of "the new york times" 1619 project. it's the america hating, pseudo-history now being taught actually in many schools, but you probably don't know much about the woman behind it. nikole hannah-jones. this week, i guess this was her three weeks ago on cbs news, justifying the violent riots. >> destroying property which can

be replaced is not violence. i think any reasonable -- excuse me, any reasonable person would say we shouldn't be destroying other people's property, but these are not reasonable times. >> tammy: [laughs] long before that, in 1995, she wrote a shocking letter to notre dame university student newspaper, "the observer." the letter obtained by ""the federalist"" said the open right race is the biggest villager and thief of the modern world, and went on to write "the descendants of these savage people pump drugs into -- and continue to be bloodsuckers in our community." i should note, of course, she was given a pulitzer prize earlier this year for the 1619 project. joining me now is ben weingarten, senior contributor at "the federalist" and author of "american ingrate, which i highly recommend to all the view. ben, thank you for joining me tonight. is interesting what she wrote in

that letter, very similar to the argument, the rhetoric against the jewish people and efforts to dehumanize the jews and the jewish community. this is very troubling. can you tell us what you found and what you think this means when it comes to her role, now, and her influence at this point? >> first of all, let me just say it's a very apt point you make in that the movement for black lives under which all of these umbrella organization stem from has itself embraced highly anti-semitic rhetoric and views on several positions relating to israel and otherwise. it's a very apt point you make. i think the broader point here is that one could dismiss these as the musings of a sophomore in college at notre dame, but for the fact that -- beyond the fact i asked her the question directly, whether she recants these statements, and she has not, but beyond that fact, what i think the important thing to

note is that this curriculum, the 1619 project curriculum, has been adopted in 3500 classrooms across the country, 50 states, and that curriculum stems directly from someone who not only held those views, but the curriculum itself inevitably leads one to take the exact same position, the curriculum provides an intellectual veneer for this bigotry by casting america as a deplorable country today, a horrible country historically, one rooted in racism -- >> tammy: ben, the 1995 letter seems to make that clear, that that is what has informed her what she is doing now. the ingraham angle also reached out, and she also did not respo, either, but it really speaks to the nature of this and would explain, would you agree, why suddenly we have these individuals, young people in the street, with no real sense of

history -- at one point, one of the demonstrators was saying "lincoln owned," and was against -- i mean, it's madness. this has led into this, to some degree, would you agree? >> absolutely. look, what we are seeing in the streets is a marxist movement which unfortunately is preying on some people who i think are acting in better faith than a marxist themselves but they are exploring and manipulating it and what you see as a consequence of this radically leftist curriculum that already has existed in our schools for generations, but now 1619 has made the racial angle the core angle to it, selling division and hatred and discord in our country, and that is what you see statues being toppled today, spray-painted "1619" on them, because of you say the american experiment is a horrible deplorable, then it's an imperative to revolution narrowly overthrow it, and that is what you see today, this maoist, french revolution. >> tammy: these people are

getting it from their authorities, schoolteachers, institutions america has put the stamp of approval on. why would they doubt it? well, ben, once again, great work. you can see ben's work at "the federalist." i appreciate you for joining me. >> thank you so much for having me. >> a lot of students and young people don't want to have us in school, doesn't make us feel safe, and particularly for black and brown students, doesn't make them feel safe. it's an important step to decriminalizing our schools and reinvesting in other school models. >> tammy: a slew of cities and school boards across the country have already given into the radical left and eliminated the police presence in schools. a number of other major school districts are still considering making this dangerous move. it's really inexplicable. in los angeles, the teachers union is joining the push to dil police force.

this all comes after the massive push for an increased police presence at schools after the horror of the park when school in 2018, the tragic event where my next guest lost his beloved daughter, meadow. joining me now is andrew pollack, author of "why meadow died." also with us his former nypd commissioner bernie kerik. andrew, thank you so much for your message to these school districts. you know, it's a remarkable thing to consider, after everything we've experienced, you personally and so many other families personally experiencing the core of the horror of it, that now we would reverse what we achieved, which is having at least a conversation that we need security in these schools. what do you think is going to happen now in this environment if all of that is reversed? >> well, to me, it's about democrats' kids' lives don't matter to them. it's all about pushing an agenda

to them, and now their agenda is to defund the police and to remove them from schools. like only someone that is sick and demented with think that is a good idea. luckily in florida, run by republicans, we passed a law in florida after doing research that made it mandatory for every school to have an armed police officer in it. so they can remove them in florida, it's the law. and to me, it's a message to parents, really think hard of where you send your kid. you want to roll the dice every day, send them to a school where they are not protected. send them on a plane or to a sporting event without armed security? so, it's just an agenda they are pushing. it's not about, really, accountability. in florida, think about this, in florida, five deputies, tammy, hid behind cars and walls and let my daughter get murdered, right? five of them.

no accountability. nancy pelosi comes to parkland, did she want accountability then? no. will they push an agenda for gun control, and where did that get them? they make our children safer anywhere? >> tammy: this is what awakened america, one you realized those officers at parkland acted -- that there was opportunities to save lives, and now, of course, the mood is to kind of codify no one being there to act. bernie, let me ask you, this also sends a message beyond being able to protect students if there is, you know, and evil individual who goes in there to try to harm them. doesn't it send a message to terrorists in general that american schools are now more vulnerable? we know the al qaeda link where they targeted a school and children were murdered. doesn't it send a message to every evil actor out there that

america schools and america's children are going to be good targets? >> yeah, tammy, that's one of them. i actually talked this morning to the former chief of the department of the nypd, and we both pretty much agreed, just about between us, came to a prediction, if you will. we are right, right where the terrorists have been right now. terrorists are back in this country because we are focused on everything else instead of, you know, the war on terror, global terrorism, and you're talking about -- tammy, there's a motivation here. i think people forget, historically, wide those cops are in those schools in the first place. in the communities of color, where you have the highest violent crime, the highest murder rates, you have an enormous -- in the schools come in the schools, historically, crazy, crazy stuff going on, and

we had to put those cops in the schools to ensure the kids were safe and secure going to school. >> tammy: sure. >> so now you're going to diminish funds for school safety, pulled the kids -- cops out, what's going to happen? all the thugs and the savages that basically run rampant in schools, they are going to be back. >> tammy: yeah. let me also suggest, andrew, there is another element to this, as well. for some individuals, having a police officer in the spaces may be the first time they've experienced a male influence or an authority influence, as a woman, as well, giving them parameters, being their first experience positively with the police, teaching them about the role of police in the community and how they can be friends. we would lose that, as well, wouldn't we? >> correct, tammy. i agree. if anyone should be biased towards police officers, it would be me, but i am the opposite. i think there is something more

better than having an officer in the school, mentoring these kids that are going down the wrong path, and when you take it that i would, you take that out of the equation where they don't have a good mentor, set these children up for failure, because they are not held accountable at an early age, and then he put them out into the real world without ever seeing any accountability. and that's the problem, and the democrats, there's no getting through to them, where they can see this. >> tammy: let me suggest to both of you gentlemen, also, that this is perhaps the point: they want to get rid of the police television shows that show the police doing their job and doing it well. that humanize the police. police in schools humanize the police. maybe even encourage a child to think about becoming a law enforcement officer. it's interesting how those kinds of things, the left wants to sweep away, and this is part of it, regardless of the impact -- what will be an ugly, negative impact, a horrific impact on our children and the future, society, but it seems like that

is a bit of the goal here. gentlemen, thank you both much for joining me. you both are terrific role models and i appreciate you being here with me tonight. >> thank you, tammy. >> tammy: coming up, the worst media fenders of the week. "the ingraham angle" has its eyes on you, the tape you don't want to miss. coming up next. lithium is the longest lasting aa battery in the world. [confetti cannon popping] energizer. backed by science. matched by no one.

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it is your social life in a phase one relationship, possib possibly? is that an unfortunate set of circumstances? >> well, i think -- >> i know we've talked -- available. >> tammy: wow, i thought last friday they needed a cigarette after an interview, they did it again this friday. the he's gotten thousands of seniors killed and she's fawning over his bachelor status. what you make of that? >> he is the grandma killer. it's great these women love him because the 70-year-old women can't because they are dead. he mandated that the nursing homes take covid-19 patience, thousands of people died as a result, 40% of the deaths have been in nursing homes, and it was because of his terrible actions. >> tammy: remarkable that jane polly, who is a professional, needed to do that. listen to this, the fest continued during the cuomo brothers latest a sketch comedy

routine. listen to this. >> i'm wowed by what you did, and more importantly, i'm wowed by how you did it. this was particularly hard. obviously, i'll never be objective, obviously i think you are the best politician in the country. >> tammy: [laughs] it's absurd, also pathetic and disgusting. this is a man who got thousands of people killed, and it seems to be irrelevant to them. what is your take on that? >> tammy, of course chris cuomo is not going to be objective when it comes to his brother, and that's the problem. it's okay for andrew cuomo to go on the show with an opinion about him. what is not okay it is an executive to not enforce journalistic standards and having andrew cuomo go on programs with journalistic integrity to ask the tough questions he owes all of us about the long-term care facilities and the roles that basically send many to their death in this pandemic. >> tammy: what's great, at least with our conversation, people realize that it's not

just what they are being presented with the mainstream media, but you can tell why people would get confused and approval ratings would be high when you see interviews like that. it's certainly not about journalism at all. that's msnbc's chris hayes tonight lamenting that donald trump won't surrender. >> donald trump does not learn, he is not going to get good at this, he is not going to change. he has failed, definitively. and it is an urgent matter of public health, public safety at this moment, for the president, donald trump, to resign. >> tammy: [laughs] yeah, that is his biggest crime, by the way, he does not surrender to them. adam, what are your thoughts? >> we always hear about voter suppression, the person who needs to resign because of voter suppression is that guy again, andrew cuomo. imagine if a republican governor had killed thousands of people in a key demo for the democrats, imagine if he killed thousands of women studies, unemployed

graduates. everyone would be calling for his ouster. well, cuomo wiped out thousands of likely republican voters. thankfully, with the lax new york voter laws, the dead ones can probably vote again this fall. >> tammy: we are so overwhelmed, alexander, with everything that has happened with the virus, the deaths of one loved ones, the decisions that didn't really seem to put people in harm's way. what is your take -- it's almost like a twilight zone episode, when you watch these questions,n questions, it's fawning like dates on tinder. what do you make of this, the seriousness surrounding the issue? >> it's a complete double standard. journalists are not holding governors like andrew cuomo to account. instead, they want to ask about andrew cuomo's life because it feeds into their narrative, blue states governors had it all right, when i was definitely not the case, and if you look to our red states, governors like

desantis and greg abbott and governor dewine in ohio, they had it under control and are still continuing to control the situation is the coronavirus continues to spike down in the southeast. >> tammy: you know, let me ask you, adam, because we know there is a serious issue. there should be an investigation, as an example, on the nursing home catastrophe, facilitated by andrew cuomo, as an example. is the media -- there is a presumption that the media and their handling of cuomo would protect him from serious allegations, or a serious investigation? >> well, it's exactly that. they are trying to do a sleight-of-hand where they gin up outrage and ignore outrage in another place. think about all of the mayors who should be resigning. they can't keep order in the streets. if you are in an expensive city like seattle, why are you paying all of these taxes when you don't even have a police force protecting your business, protecting your property?

what are you getting in return for those taxes? >> tammy: well, adam, i want to thank both of you for this. great perspective on all of this, and these are serious issues we are going to continue to look at care for adam and alexandra, thank you so much. coming up, two dozen student groups issue -- they sent a letter -- sorry, they sent a letter with racial demands to stanford university. our next guest tells laura that these groups are showing their own privilege by making these demands. that's coming up right next.

♪ >> laura: the tactics and the philosophy of the radical left, the marxist uc roaming about the streets ripping up history? well, largely comes out of our universities. point in case at least two dozen student groups, many representing students of color, are now using the current upheaval to make a list of -- a very long list -- of demands at stanford university. now, the student groups writing virtually no action has been taken to address the racism pandemic present in our nation and on our campus. we feel the time for patience has passed. we believe stanford university must take immediate action." the letter goes on to lay out 16 separate actions that stanford must take, including creating a

centralized diversity office to be headed by someone with "a history of radical action and critical resistance to achieve justice and equity." on top of that, students are demanding an actual -- get this -- report on an decolonialization efforts in the school. any departments that lag behind in this endeavor will come of course, be punished. here's where things get really disturbing. they demand that "any individual that is reported to have committed or been involved with racial injustice must complete an additional unpaid 40 hours of antiracist training as a first warning." then it goes on to add that "dismissal from their position should be a tangible and real consequence for faculty and staff that repeatedly engage in or demonstrate intractable discrimination." i'm not sure how they ever determined that if there's any due process, but my next guest

is one of the students calling out the incense in insanity that tate is taking over her school. she says the student groups are showing their own privileges. joining me now is mimi st. john's, a sophomore at stanford. first of all, mimi, i'm up all applauding you. take a lot of guts to do what you are doing. >> thank you, and hello from the other review. >> laura: i was the first female auditor. you save these students, mimi, making trivial demands, explained that. >> i think it's clear, when we look at some of the statistics of them, they demanded more black fitness instructors, black hair care professionals, more food from black owned restaurants, $25 million for this, and they also demanded stanford, 20% of stanford faculty and students immediately

being made -- in the future, be made black or indigenous. >> laura: so, this is filled with all sorts of demands. we have a list that would take up the whole screen for several minutes, mimi, but what's amazing is they demand real money. you know, i'm talking millions of dollars. millions of dollars for various activities and a new mlk center of some sort. $5 million, i believe, for various hiring requirements. >> yes, it's ridiculous. the average black american doesn't have time to worry about what color their fitness instructor is. 22% of black americans live in poverty. what you need to actually help the black community are better schools for black children, better -- a better economy so that people can lift themselves out of poverty.

we need those things. we need safer communities. we don't need any of this nonsense proposed in the op-ed. >> laura: what about the threats against professors who don't bow down to this kind of radical list of demands, and they misbehave, according to -- i'm not sure what criteria they would be using to determine "instances of racial injustice," but that seems like antiacademic freedom, if you ask me, just on the professorial front. >> absolutely. i think it is a blatant attempt to stifle free speech and academic freedom. when your professor is afraid of being fired if they offend someone, i don't see how you truly receive an education, receive an education, you have to be made somewhat uncomfortable, and this proposal would punish professors

who are alleged to have offended anyone. >> laura: mimi, we are going to keep following this and look forward to seeing what is happens when -- i hope all students are back on campus. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. it was great to be here. >> laura: >> tammy: that's a very impressive young woman. final thoughts when we come back.

>> laura: as we close out the show tonight, i want to take a moment to remember rusty hewitt, the loving father, husband, and very close friend to the show executive producer. if he passed away suddenly earlier this month after being diagnosed with leukemia just das earlier. today's hit, friends and family from all over said their goodbye. the one life sometime best, he was always the first want to be by your side and he would be there to offer a hearty joke, sound advice, a shoulder to cry on and a hug to make you feel completely loved it. he will be missed terribly.

then i come out rusty hewitt. and that's all we tend to have tonight, thank you for watching this special edition of tammy bruce, in four laura ingraham, see you next time. ♪ >> mike: hello, welcome to "fox news @ night," we begin with a fox news alert. president trump signed an executive order tonight protecting american monuments and memorials as people try to pull them down. the attorney general bill barr calling for the creation of a task force to counter anti-governor extremists and calling out those who support the movement to end identify as an tivo but we begin with a task force of another kind trying to tackle a surge in