tv Media Buzz FOX News June 28, 2020 8:00am-9:00am PDT
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howie: this is media buzz, i'm howard kurtz. new all-time highs for coronavirus for 5 straight days, more than 42,000 cases yesterday alone along with surge in numerous states the media tightly focused on the pandemic and president trump's role and comments he made about virus testing. >> when you do testing to that extent, you will find more people, you will find more cases, so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. [inaudible] >> slow down testing. >> i don't kid.
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our tests are the best in the world of them. by having more tests, we find more cases. howie: with the press ramping up its coverage the pundits are pointing fingers or minimizing the impact. >> the president and vice president continue to feed the american people lies about the state of this pandemic and their administration's failures to rise to the moment. >> we didn't have to have more than 120,000 americans die with the virus still raging. we could have listened to the experts. when everyone was saying listen to the experts, downplaying it was, it was a hoax. >> the way the media frames new cases now seems to indicate that we should all stay locked down and the president screwed up and that's just not fair. >> trump demonstrated that he's not going to be controlled by the covid fear mongers, the media and political opponents, they don't care about covid
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infections, give me a break. for if they did, they would have shut down the george floyd protests. howie: joining us to analyze the coverage mollie hemingway, senior editor. jeff jenkins, fox news correspondent here in washington and in new york jessica tarlov also a fox news contributor. mollie, headlines, white house in denial. the media trying to portray -- mollie: well, they've been clearly trying to do that for months now. in general the media are not good at explaining context or nuance. we learned that the cdc estimates that 10 times as many people have coronavirus have tested positive. that's what you mean when you test more people, more than 2 million americans have it. we need toe know how many people are being hospitalized, how many
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people in which age group have this. one of the things of recent increase of cases predominantly in younger age groups which are much better suited to handle it. in this entire story we have seen that it's not just older people, older people in nursing home at risk. third and a half of all deaths related to this have been in nursing homes. we need to have much more focus on people who are vulnerable there and much less about people who are asymptomatic at younger ages. howie: jessica, the good news is death rates are way down, but more than 125,000 americans have died of the disease. do you see the president of downplaying the pandemic even when the latest numbers reflecting surge and the media impact? jessica: he absolutely is and i would argue that mike pence when he finally got back on television, giving the president a victory lap.
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even if it's people in my hijack are -- age are getting. i think the president held back and forth, i was kidding, i wasn't kidding, he hung kayleigh mcenany out to dry when she made a statement, the president was joking and then he comes out oh, i never kid. why are you joking about people lives and, of course, the media is going to cover this when we are getting crazy stats out of texas, florida, arizona, places reopened and are having to scale that back. howie: griff, would you agree that the media for several weeks especially during the protests pretty much pulled back from this story and kind of sent a signal that it's kind of over as a huge national emergency? griff: i would agree that they put the front and center the violence on the street, civil unrest, catching our attention,
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of course, we've had no shortage of guests talking with local leaders who did not move to stop the social distancing that was being violated in the situations, but you know, you raise a point, we saw vice president canceling trip to florida and arizona because the coronavirus concerns and really what's most important about this discussion i think is that the virus is the only apolitical player in all of this, and the data matters significantly. i interviewed yesterday a real smart expert who says, look, if you get hospitalized in florida, you are 85 year's old, you have chance of dying -- >> howie: the press is growing
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tired of the story and repetitive and depressing. mollie, what do you think of jessica's point about testing, some public health experts say it's beyond increase testing, it's more positive rates when you tests. mollie: it's important that we change as new facts come on the ground. when this began it was extremely scary and we were seeing certain results in testing rates and now we have a much lower case fatality rate. we have a much greater survival rate, we have learned so much more about how it affects people in different age groups and that's where i'm not seeing the media coverage change. they are still acting like we don't know anything about this and we need to have the same level of fear. there's certain amount of reasonable fear, 5, 10, 20 times as scary as it actually is that's not helpful. we need to have better risk comparisons, there's risk with everything that we do no life. the risk people below a certain
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age group is very small. the risk of people in nursing homes, 1 in 6, just under one and 6 people in new jersey in nursing homes died. they are trying to make it sound general when it's a focused problem and one that we are not paying enough attention to there and we are acting like it's the same level of risk for people who are at school or what not when they actually are not spreaders of the same, in any way the same. howie: jessica, let me get your response to that. president trump's own mentions of covid-19 decline by two-thirds from april to early june and i think the media take a lot of cues from potus. jessica: yes, absolutely, he dominates on chosen media form for politics, so everyone will have to follow his lead there. we know why the president doesn't want to talk about it. he has a reelection campaign to run and he wants to be law and
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order candidate and he doesn't want to have sorry 125,000 americans died and i was out for lunch when i should have been preparing about this. a lot about the op-ed that joe biden wrote saying that president trump is the worst person to be in charge if we are going to have a health pandemic. look at that, biden was right. biden is up about 10 points right now. the number 1 issue in the election in the last two cycles will be health care, it would be the number one 1 issue. the president can go to border wall all that he wants, he can talk about black lives matter is a terrorist organization, et cetera, but when people are dying whether they are 85 or whether it's 30, 35-year-olds that are getting sick and don't know the long-term implications, we heard it can have lung -- longer-term capacity implications. howie: the media's coverage have been spotty at times.
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griff, so happens that mike pence shared the first coronavirus task force hearing in 2 months, wasn't at the white house, it was at hhs. the president did not appear. pence said we made progress. fauci who report sidelined on tv urged caution. did the president all of this canceling the daily show, the coronavirus task force kind of dampen the media's interest? griff: possibly, to the point, good one that you raise because maybe they should bring it back on a daily basis. as jessica points out accurately, where this virus and how the country handled 130 so days from now will depend who wins the white house and it appeared even though the president at one point wanted to do entirely with the briefing, there was a hunger and consent of hunger for the information, for data, for the recommendations and really now
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in the absence of those briefings we are getting, you know, national debates over whether you should wear a mask or not. i think he would do himself a favor of bringing it back full force. howie: all right, we are tight on time. what is the whole debate about whether people should wear a mask if they go to public or crowded places, why has it become politicized, is it in part because president trump is not publicly embraced wear august mask himself and hasn't embraced the recommendation and governors mayors are wearing, why do you think it's become politicized? mollie: we might begin at the beginning where we were told that masks did nothing to prevent the spread of coronavirus. we had these experts even in the trump administration who are saying that they weren't necessary, then they say they. i think it's an issue of nuance, people are unable to understand that there might be times you're wearing a mechanic and times that you aren't. on both extremes you have people that you have to wear it at all
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times or not, in general, we need much more accurate coverage of actual risks being outside, exercising, for instance, being more than 6 feet apart you don't need to wear a mask. howie: jessica, the same question about the shutdowns and whether they were too quickly and to come back seems to become partisan issue for the media. jessica: yeah, absolutely, but there were big mistakes that people in my own party have made. articles in left-wing publications said that if cuomo had shut down new york a week earlier and taken the example that they did in san francisco we could have saved lives and not have the nursing home scandal, that's new york and new jersey where it's been the worst and those are blue states but to mollie's point by the president, he has to lead by example, the surgeon general says wear a mask, the president should wear a mask. howie: you may be watching in a state where coronavirus is not surging but florida and texas
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they shut down bars, better situation in new york and dc where most of the media are based which is why slowness to recognize where we are today. let me get a break here. frank luntz joins us on the program. piece on russia allegedly killing soldiers in afghanistan and trump retweeting a very controversial video they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance. i just... when i... let's try again. everybody back to one. accident forgiveness from allstate. click or call for a quote today.
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howie: "the new york times" reports that president trump was briefed on russian military intelligence offering bounties to militants linked to taliban to kill american soldiers and coalition soldiers in afghanistan. lots of denials from the president on twitter this morning calling this a phoney times hit job and demanded that
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the paper reveal anonymous sources which existence he doubts. another classic confrontation over unnamed sources and i should mentioned that sources have confirmed the story to the wall street journal, the washington post and cnn. griff: you know what troubling, howie, in all of this in the white house's denial and the president's tweet, denial that he was briefed about it. he doesn't deny outright that the bounties were made and i think really that's not going to create a problem for them because again, you will not walk all of this back. the intelligence community didn't brief the nsc in the white house that's a problem. if the nsc was briefed and didn't tell the president as he says, he, vice president and chief staff meadows that's a problem too. an issue that we will hear more about.
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howie: the times story national security council debated options on discussing to putin which suggests substance to the story. mollie: actually it's impossible to know because it's anonymous sources making claims and i kind of question why people keep believing "the new york times" when it claims anonymous intel sources about anything. this is the same paper and in some case it is very same reporters who publish the completely false and ridiculous russia collusion. now taking a step back, it's unlikely that you will get confirmation or denial from intelligence sources on this. you might remember a couple of months ago when the media claimed falsely that kim jong un was -- was brain dead or had been killed and -- or had died and that was just not true. so not commenting doesn't necessarily mean anything. in this case, you've got intelligence that you collect and then you have to analyze it
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and you really have to come to a high degree of confirmation, you might remember how our intel community believed there was weapons of mass destruction. howie: i remember vividly. jessica, as i said other news organizations confirming the story, doesn't mean it's true, as griff mentioned, if the president wasn't briefed, if he's telling the truth, why not and that's a major issue. jessica: yeah, absolutely, that's a question that cheney asked this morning. at end of the day we need to make sure that vladimir putin is not part of the g8, something that president trump wanted, i understand that putin likes him better than trudeau likes him or boris likes him. he can't be friends with
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autocrats and dictators who kill americans. and to mollie's comment about hoax, that's not what the mueller report said, mollie. howie: i want to get to this video that the president retweeted this morning, a clash of protestors at the villages in florida and shows one guy in golf cart with trump campaign stickers shouting white power at some antitrump supporters and the president wrote, thank you to the great people of the villages, radical left do nothing, democrats will fall, the president at the beginning of the program deleted the tweet and democrats endorsing racism. mollie: it appeared to show someone sarcastically responding him accusing him of holding this
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individual of holding the views bizarre castically saying -- by sarcastically saying he did. you have a lot of people advocating hatred toward white people and responses like this and it needs to be very careful. i think the media seem to want to promote conflict rather than remind people that this is a wonderful people where people get along very well and where we are, you know, we are the best country in the world on some of these things. howie: jessica, the president as i said deleting the tweet after only republican senator tim scott said this was indefensible and should take it down but as far as the media making a big deal out of it, it's the president who put this into play with the tweet, he handed the press the story. jessica: he's his worst enemy when it comes to social media and we have seen that time and time again. he doesn't seem to pay to a lot of attention to things he's tweeting.
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don, jr.'s as well, his son. what are you talking about? i didn't know that that was antisemitic. the president needs to be the adult in the room. it's clear he can't handle that and someone needs to take phone away. we have been discussing that for years at this point. howie: that's not happening. jessica: white power is never a joke and for mollie this is a country where we all get along, i don't know what country mollie is living as you look at what is happening on the streets after the murder of george floyd. howie: hold on, hold on, mollie, 10 seconds to respond? mollie: i'm just saying that the accurate story about america is one where it's free and prosperous country for people of all races and that's the story that needs to be told rather than hyping conflict of people. human nature is bad and there's bad instances but we don't want to neglect so overarching story.
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howie: there was a media explosion when nascar announced it was looking into a noose left in the team garage of bubba wallace, only full-time driver in the series, awful racket of racism but an fbi probe found no hate crime saying the rope had been in the grand juror since at least last fall and couldn't have been targeted at wallace. bubba wallace defended insisting it was a noose in sympathetic interview with cnn don lemon. >> i think you handled this like a champ. >> i'm mad because people are trying to test my character and the person i am and my integrity
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and they're not stealing that away from me but they are trying to test that. howie: joining us now charsly gasparino, senior business correspondent for the fox business network. charlie, nascar makes dramatic announcement. we are left into a noose left in the garage, did the media rush to judgment here? charles: you've been there too and you follow leads and there's nothing there. i mean, let's be real clear, i don't think this was bubba wallace's fault. he was presented with the information by nascar in hysterical way if you read press accounts by the head of nascar, he's worried about his wife, kids, his own safety. i've never seen just so you know i've never seen a garage rope door that look like that before. that said, there should have
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been some investigation on the part of nasdaq before they blew this up. howie: nascar. charles: the media to me just seems like it's much more activist in this cover, in coverage of protests and -- and some of these issues that it should be. some of this, we should be the ones that sit back and say, okay, let's see the facts before we rush to judgment. howie: i agree with you. let me jump in. i agree with you but when nascar makes an announcement i don't think that sort of pretended it didn't exist and wait for confirmation. i talked about it in my podcast. i agree with you on that as well. here is what he had to say to fox jesse watters. >> lets get it straight this wasn't publicity stunt on my end. i don't need all the fame and media hype to create my brand and -- and create my image.
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people that know me i'm 100% raw and real. howie: bubba did the right thing and went to nascar authorities and more willing to say after the fbi finding i recognize now that it wasn't aimed at me and it was perhaps some kind of hoax. charles: that was the oddest garage door rope. that did look weird. that said, all reporters had to do was go to the scene when it happened and just start asking how many other ropes are there, when was this put up. you have the date, all you need the date of when that was put up you would know it doesn't directed at him and, again, i think it's the activist nature of reporters today. i mean, listen, we are in this -- >> howie: good point. charles: take a stance and not report news and that's a big problem for the media. howie: on that note charlie gasparino, thank you very much.
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howie: got a bit of breaking news after president trump tweeted that -- retweeted and deleted video from the villages in florida in which one of his supporters was shouting white power, white power. white house spokesperson says the president did not hear the one statement made on the video, what he did hear tremendous enthusiasm from supporters. new conventional wisdom of the election echoing across the air waves. >> not many people are saying it out loud on the right but the fact is that president trump could well lose this election. >> this looks like deliberate attempt to drive his campaign into the ground every day. howie: the president acknowledge he might come up short in
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talking talking with sean hannity in talking about joe biden. >> he can't put two sentences together. i don't want to be nice or unnice, okay, but i mean, the man can't speak and he's going to be a president because some people don't love me maybe. >> he's like a child who can't believe this has happened to him. all his wining and self-pity, well, this pandemic didn't happen to him, it happened to all of us. howie: joining us now here in washington frank luntz, veteran pollster who has worked for many republicans, donald trump is getting the worst press of his presidency, some has to do with new york times poll showing him trailing joe biden by 14 points and double digits in wisconsin, pennsylvania, polls change. it's only june but are these gloom and doom assessments by the media on target? >> frank: the first thing is --
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they went to and they went to philadelphia, they got into a cab or an uber, drove half an hour and interviewed voters in philadelphia suburbs. that's not where trump was going to do well. some did better 30 minutes farther away and so the press cannot use -- even though it's my profession, they cannot use as substitute than talking to voters. 3 questions that matter more than the ballot. are you better off than 4 years ago, famous ronald reagan question, is america in the right track and third job approval. it's not whether trump and biden, not the difference between them. it's the job approval for the president. the first question he's doing well, the second question he's doing badly and the trend on job approval is going down. so we need a level -- >> howie: let me jump in and ask
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you this, because this is not just the liberal media tranching trump's chances. mr. trump heads to what could be historic repudiation. he had no second-term agenda and default congratulation. do you think that's too harsh and coming from a newspaper that agrees with a lot of policies? >> frank: the president unproved that he lift promises and that's a mistake. voters on future and what you're going to do and not just what you have done. donald trump is not explaining what will happen in months to follow. that's a mistake that he's making and the journal is basically calling him on it with 4 and a half months to fix the
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challenge. howie: politico reports that trump has told friends that he knows he's losing as of right now numerous news stories trump advisers are upset with the campaign he's running, that he's not more forward looking to use your phrase, that he is winning and playing to his base with advice of rhetoric is this fair criticism usually people aligned with the candidate, incumbent, start telling reporters off the record it means there's a lot of frustration? >> it means that they are basically saying -- there's a reason why he's on the air every day dominating the news and yet numbers are going down. the tone is off. it's not empathetic. the message is off, it's not enough about the future and the key in all of this, howie, that swing voters, the underdecided and only 6% of the population, if you're not talking to them, you're not changing the electoral vote and that is
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challenge that trump has right now. he's talking very effectively to his base and now talking to people he needs to win. howie: you mentioned joe biden going to philadelphia -- pennsylvania going making a speech and by in large biden is doing interviews by delaware home, he's not out there very much, now some democrats looking at polls saying you know what, that's a pretty good strategy, do you think it's better in media terms for biden to kind of be mostly off the radar? >> frank: get out of the way and let it happen. makes sense for now. biden cannot hide forever and then watching and studying the election in 1968 because i think that's most appropriate comparison to 2020, civil
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unrest, violence in the streets, candidates that did not necessarily please a lot of people in the electorate and the key in all of this knowing when to speak and when to say and being so disciplined that you don't get off message. that does not describe the president right now. howie: frank, i have half a minute. do you think the media when it comes to pandemic and race relations and trump presidency are playing a divisive role in this country? >> frank: absolutely. i blame twitter much more and i use twitter but i use twitter to try to unit people, to tell the truth rather than try to pick sides. one more thing, the press should show both sides of the protests, the riot side and the protest side. those speaking up who is speaking up for change and right to know who are committing violent acts. you need both of them and that's
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department won big victory when federal panel voted 2-120 clear -- 2-1 to clear flynn case. mora liasson, fox news contributor. emily, fbi set a perjury trap for him, but the coverage has been lacer focus on bill barr and the extent to which he is helping the president have the case drop against his former aide. emily: that's exactly right, howie, unfortunately it's no surprise. there's always a caveat in the coverage that immediately shapes the tone that the reader or viewer receives. one headline, just a headline said that as two judges issue the ruling that the lower court
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should dismiss charges. first of all, they referenced president trump and they said president trump's former nsa as well as headlines said a third judge accused them of overstepping their powers and even in coverage that was more neutral about the ruling itself, still made the call that it was an extraordinary decision by the doj to dismiss without as you already pointed out just in one sentence all of those other details that really serve to fill out what the case is actually concluding. howie: the ruling was written by trump appointee who scold trial judge, former justice department reporter, the dropping of charges against somebody who has pleaded guilty is extremely unusual. >> mara: no doubt that they won a big victory for now but there's still another couple of twists and turns in this case. it's possible that the entire appeals court could hear this.
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it's possible that emmett sullivan, the trial judge could go ahead. this isn't over yet, if you're scoring innings, the trump administration won this one. howie: yeah, it's a big victory and may be close to over but we will see. also this week another bill barr story, current federal prosecutor testified before a house committee about the roger stone case where barr had pushed for more lenient sentence for trump adviser, take a listen. >> what i heard repeatedly was that this leniency and they were giving a break because of being afraid of the president of the united states. howie: painted a picture that this was negative for bill barr and he was trying to help the
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president spare his friend a long jail term? >> ancillary points to shape the story. essentially said the career prosecutors shouldn't testify in front of congress, it should preserve their independence if not so much was made about the fact of the testimony in general that the trump administration has had such an effect on the doj and on especially the leadership at its behest. e note that barely any coverage of former attorney general mike statement that said there seems to be a tendency these days to read into every single one of ag barr's action as having ulterior motive. howie: and, mara, double hearsay. talk about that and the fact --
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go ahead. go ahead. >> mara: i was about to recommend that people go and listen read to steve, host of morning show, long, thorough, really good interview with bill barr where barr explained why he did what he did, he felt that the sentence was too long compared to other people who had been convicted of the same thing and he points to the fact that the judge actually in the end did give stone a shorter sentence. so barr was able to explain himself fully, i think npr did a good job and people should read the interview. howie: all right, 40-month sentence if he's not pardoned and far less than the original 7 to 9 years which i thought was absurdly harsh. let me get a break here, next john bolton faces rocky media road and jimmy kimmel admits he's embarrassed by his old black face
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howie: fox news alert vice president pence about to make remarks at first baptist church in dallas, live on his event and bring you news on he is wearing a mask. john bolton has been making television rounds to promote his book, the one that president trump denounced as traitorrist and the anchors giving him a hard time and citing other officials contradicting him. >> several of them, i have a whole list have come out and said basically you're a liar, so why should americans believe you as opposed to them. >> it looks like you were making money off the book. >> i wouldn't have joined the government to begin with.
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howie: emily compagno you might think that some have been aggressively questioning him. emily: that's exactly right. from the view to wolf blitzer, hard questions and the answers didn't really provide answer that you got 2 million-dollar advance of the book and you were silent during impeachment hearings and how can we find anything that you're saying credible at all and had weak defense if at all. howie: mara, bolton's problem is media supporters are mad for writing book and turning on the president and liberals in the press are still steamed that he didn't testify during impeachment hearings. >> mara: john bolton one of the few people in washington who could care less that anyone doesn't like him, his motive are rightly being questioned but the narrative that he has written which will go down in history is not contradicted by other people
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in the trump administration or exofficials. he corroborated a portrait of trump's leadership that already existed and that would be the lasting impression. howie: all right, i should mentioned though that mike pompeo and others have certainly challenged a lot of specifics. >> mara: certain things but overall -- yeah. howie: let me get to jimmy kimmel because he's taking the summer after this video of old black face skits that he participated in and use of n word in at least one skid, some going back to 90's, he apologized in a statement saying that looking back many of the sketches are embarrassing and frustrating and moments have become weapon used against him, however, i won't be bullied into silence but those who feign outrage to advance their oppressive and genuinely racist agendas. emily, do you buy kimmel's argument that summer hiatus is unrelated to latest
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embarrassments? emily: some of the cover let it go without referencing at all whether the scene is authentic. he's taking the summer off and that's it. i wanted to point out that he is slate today host the emmys in september and i will -- we will all see whether it's a kevin hart situation who refuse today apologize for past homophobic tweets and so he stepped down for hosting the oscar and remain to be seen whether the mob rule will let his statements slide here. howie: right. some of the old skits mara are cringe-inducing stuff. it's serious business when it's the governor of virginia but the press should hold comedian to same standard? >> mara: you know what people have taken breaks from anchor slots and hosting duties and come back on the air and continued. there are a lot of different ways to handle this. i think the press is raising questions but in the end jimmy kimmel and his employers will decide, you know, how long he should stay off the air and what
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he should say about this when he gets back. howie: right. megan kelly who was let go for nbc for talking about black face tweeted that andy and the nbc chairman said there's no place on our air for discussion of black face because nbc was shot full of shows and major stars wearing black face including saturday night live. good discussion, mara liasson and emily compagno. how mark zuckerberg is caving to pressure safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! he's here. he's right here. - hi! - hi. hey! - that's totally him. - it's him!
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howie: mark zuckerberg is beating a quick retreat after getting hammered for insisting facebook shouldn't police political speech. he now says the social network will remove posts from president trump or other political leaders that incite violence or attempt to suppress voting and ban ads that paint certain groups as
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dangerous. when twitter put a warning label on trump's tweet when the looting start the shooting start, facebook did nothing. zuckerberg says he doesn't want to be arbiter of truth but i believe facebook should take responsible for its content like the giant media company that it is. you're a player, mark, and this is overdue. what on earth were they thinking? apologized after running full page ad from biblical prophecy group with pictures of president trump and hope francis claiming that islam would set off a bomb in nashville. nobody thought to question that? we are extremely apologetic to the community that the advertisement was able to get through. unbelievable. that's it for this edition of media buzz, i'm howard kurtz. hope you like facebook page, we can continue the conversation at howard kurtz.
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