tomorrow we will talk secretary ben carson and victor david hanson will join ♪ >> tucker: the revolution you are watching in progress has metastasized across the country is of course a war against our institutions, but it's also a war against you. anyone who stands in the way of the mob no matter how justified will be crushed. tonight we will talk to a man who knows that first hand, his name is mark mccloskey.fi he is a homeowner in st. louis. he tried to defend himself against a mob who threatened to murder him and he's been hurt for doing that. we will also speak to melissa rolfe who was fired from her job after her stepson was charged in the shooting of rayshard brooks. she did nothing wrong, she was merely related to the wrong person. she's got her story.

that's ahead. good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." last night we interviewed a u.s. senator called mike g braun. he's a republican who representm indiana. he ran for office two years ago as a conservative but he has not governed like one. the mob burned cities and shot police officers. mike braun used his power in the u.s. senate to punish local police. cops were the real problem he decided so he sponsored legislation to make it easier for left-wing activist groups to sue and bankrupt individual police officers and then mike braun endorsed black lives matter. >> do you support the black lives matter movement? >> i support that movement because it's addressing an inequity which has not been solved from a grassroots level. >> tucker: it's hard to

imagine that many of mike braun's voters agree. black lives matter has hasn't wants to eliminate police department's, dismantled the nuclear family and install socialism the united states. even in the highly revolutionary year of 2020, those don't seem like winning institutions in thr state of indiana. we asked mike braun how to explain and it didn't go well. will not play you the tape. it feels like piling on. we will sum it up this way. mike braun explained he was pushing left-wing legislation because he was afraid of being criticized by chuck schumer if he didn't. the whole thing went like that. it was remarkable, almost beyond belief. we are not trying to be mean. cruelty is easy, too easy especially with politicians. the closer you get to them the easier you realize it is. mike braun doesn't seem like a bad person. if you lived next door to him you would probably like him but he is weak and doesn't believe in anything. he is definitely not alone. an awful lot of republican officeholders look very much like mike brown right now, probably most of them.

that's a problem. in a moment like this, it's a severe and dangerous problem. here's why. republicans at all levels could lose this fall. if they do, there will be profound consequences for you. people who supported donald trump will be punished. absolutely no question about that. there's never been in american political party is radical and as angry as the democrats are now. imagine that with unlimited power, that's what they plan to get. in their first year, democrats will give voting rights to every illegal alien in this country and then encourage many others to join them from abroad. at a minimum, that means more than 20 million people new democratic voters overnight. no republican will win nationally again. we'll have one party rule. democrats don't plan to stop there. in congress, they will abolish the filibuster. that means they will be able to do whatever they want to do wits just a simple majority which they will have. they plan to pack the senate by making the district of columbia

a state. giving statehood to d.c. is unconstitutional clearly but they are not worried about that. they plan to pack the supreme court too. they have said so. so what will democrats do with all this on trammell to power? it's pretty easy to imagine. we won't go into details. we don't want to wreck your night phone look around. you've got a pretty good idea of what's coming. the point is, and it could not be clearer, nondemocrats in america are in peril. we're going to need someone with power willing to come to our defense. and that's where people like mike braun come in. thata was the point of last nights interview. not to humiliate a specific senator but to remind the republican party that it is our only shield. yes, the republican party, flawed and infuriating though it often is, the fact remains the g.o.p. is the only institution still open to the rest of us. two americans who want to live as they did just 15 years ago,us quietly, productively without

being harassed and harangued by self-righteous lunatics who need them harm and they do. if you want to be left alone to do your job and raise her family in this country, you will need a wprotector. that protector must be the republican party. there are no other options. but it must be a different kind of republican party. keep in mind we are getting a new republican party no matter what happens. even now, vultures wait just offstage to swoop in and claim the g.o.p. for themselves once donald trump is gone. former governor nikki haley tops that list but there are many others on it. the moment trump leaves, they will attack him. they will tell your republicans lost power because they were mean and intolerant, just like donald trump. if you listen carefully, you can hear them say that even now. it's a lie. republicans are failing for more obvious, frontal mend of reason. they haven't done much that it's worth doing.

they haven't tried very hard to improve your life. when the crisis came, they fled. they did nothing to defend you. they did nothing to defend the country. they were paralyzed. their so-called principles turned out to be bumper stickers that wrote 40 years ago. they had no clue what to do. so from this day forward, it's very simple. we are going to have to tell them what to do. that will work. no matter what they may believe privately, politicians respond to organized groups of voters. they want to win above all, so they had to wear votes are. going forward, republican voters should demand three things from the candidates. if they don't provide them, don't vote for them. here they are. first, vigorous defense of total equality under the law. we are equal because we are citizens. every american hasti precisely e same rights as every other american. period. that is the promise of america. that's why millions of people move here. for a long time, we knew that no

one questioned it. it was obvious but are no longer is obvious and there are many who are working in the opposite direction. republicans must counterbalance it. they must workers hearts they they can to make america fair again. wealth, appearance, ancestry can play no role whatsoever in the eyes of the law. that means criminals like jeffrey epstein must go to jail the first time they are caught molesting children. it means your children must have precisely the same chances of getting into college or getting a job as anyone else's children. it means fighting to make this a color-blind meritocracy. a color-blind meritocracy. say it again. the alternative to that is disaster. slavery and jim crow were immoral precisely because they punish people for how they were born. any system that punishes people foror how they were born is immoral always. republicans must say that loud

loudly. don't cat caught in pointless debates about whether or not this is a racist country. clearly it isn't. prove it by making it less racist, by making it a color-blind meritocracy. that's our promise. second, republicans must defend our freedom of speech. we are not a free society without that. this is not simply a debate about the first amendment and its limits. it's bigger than that and more important. if you can't articulate something, if you're not allowed, you can't think it. that's precisely why authoritarians try to control language. they are trying to control your mind. republican should lead the fight against this without shame. americans have the absolute right to tell the truth. this is not negotiable nor is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. everything depends on it. if you can't think freely, you can't solve problems. try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. if certain categories of thought or off-limits to you, it doesn't work. the power grid collapses and

plates aggression society degrades. no speech means no science, no art, no civilization. most of us were taught that this debate was settled conclusively during the enlightenment hundreds of years ago and reason vanquished dogma. but it wasn't settled. the forces of superstition remain. they are stronger than ever. in fact they are growing in strength. the republican party must fight them or it's not a party withre having. finally we must never forget that in the end the republican party exists to serve the interests of normal people, ordinary people. middle-class families are the core of this country. they are our hope for the future, our only hope and yet both parties have have shamelessly abandoned them. middle-class families have no national spokesman, no lobby in washington. republicans protect a breather champion. you know theyen are not. instead of improving the lives of their voters, the party feeds them a steady diet of mindless

symbolic victories, partisan junk food designed to make them feel full even as they waste away. who cares how many benghazi hearings we have? we are supposed to care. why should we? how did peter strzok's text messages become more important than saving american jobs from foreign nationals who are taking them? it is lunacy.ho we fall for it every time. to the extent this show has participated in it, we apologize with deepest sincerity. because meanwhile, as we are talking about things that don't matter, life for the dwindling american middle class has become steadily worse. there are junkies living in york park. your nephew just died of a fentanyl overdose. saddest of all and who hasn't thought this, you realize that your children will never be as successful as you are. the american dream died with your generation. as all of this happened, democrats laughed because it served their interests. republicans basically ignored it and that cannot continue. the only political movement that

endure are the one that makes their voters stronger. so how does this change? can republican officeholders change their party? yes, they can. we just have to make them. these are not by a large eagle people. mike braun is not an evil person. despite the way they talk, they are not secretly working for the other side. most of them are just empty, sad people and politics is e the way they feel the yawning void inside where a personal life should be. they are pleasers. they are searching for the approval of strangers. our job is to give them clear instructions about what we want. we do that by voting and by making noise. they will not lead us. we know that now. they have refused to. we have to lead and when we do, they will follow. johnny burke is the director of american conservative magazine. thank you for coming on. the republican party got our

really clear message i would say in 2016 when donald trump came from nowhere and took it over.ut what they need to reorient and become the party of ordinary people, all colors, middle-class people. why didn't they dola that? >> they failed because they are cowards. they clung to being the party of wall street instead of prioritizing the issues that animate main street americans, and even worse they live in fear of being canceled by the left. as you know, the left controls every major institution except the presidency. republicans are deathly afraid of offending the sensibilities of the left and the left sets the term for every major debate in american life especially on issues of race that are currently dividing our country.mm instead of engaging on new terms, republicans try to please the left.

they end up looking awkward and insincere. if republicans care about ordinary americans, white and black but specifically the black community and want to be taken seriously, they need to dispense with a linkage of identity politics altogether and fight t for the issues that they know how to talk about. these are the issues they can be fighting for. jobs, education, faith, and family. when it comes to the issue of jobs, globalization, deindustrialization, it's impacted the black community even more than a white workinghe class. i would call on president trump to encourage these fortune 500 companies that are so concerned about racial equality to move their factories overseas and bring them back to the united states. place them in baltimore, detroit, place them in chicago and provide good paying jobs foi the black community. on the issue of education, it's time to provide not only opportunity but also increase funding and support for our teachers working in the inner cities.

we also need to be supporting the african-american family. providing support prenatal and postnatal care for mothers. also supporting high wage jobs for black fathers. finally we need to be allies with the black churches. there's a long and wonderful tradition of the black church in america, and these should be friends and allies working with republicans on pro-life issues. more importantly, republicans need to grow a spine and call out the corrupt corporate leadership class in america i'm thinking particular people like tim cook and apple. apple has pledged over $100 million to fight for racial equality since the a death ofu george floyd. they have paid lip service to racial equality, but they've done nothing to address the business practices and the policies they support that hurt the black worker, specifically off shoring jobs to china and importing low wage labor that competes with black americans.

>> tucker: racial equality means colorblindness under the law. that the u.s. treats every american as citizens. not the product of their genetics. init seems like the promise of america, the message of martin luther king. i haven't heard a single person say that in i can't remember how long. why is it hard? >> it's hard because what the social justice warriors areau trying to do is cancel america. what we know if we look back at our american history, despite the fact that we have sins in our past, we also have a great tradition of justice and equality that goes all the way back to the declaration of independence and the work of great men like frederick douglass. it's time that we reclaim that tradition and say that if we want a more just and equitable society, we don't get it by canceling america.er we get a bye rediscovering our great traditions and teaching them to the next generation. >> tucker: our greatest is

equality under the law, period three doesn't matter who your parents were. period. i appreciate it. ifif you've turned on the television, you know the national media are very intent on destroying a couple ines st. louis. their crime was defending themselves against a mob that threatened to murder them. if the media seems to care much less about the armed militias in chop, seattle's cop free country, and that indifference has claimed another life. chop residents shot an suv and killed a 16-year-old boy inside and they put a 14-year-old in critical condition.nd who's to blame for this? the mayor of seattle, jenny durkan. she didn't care about armed extremists taking over an entire trunk downtown, an area where people live and work. >> how long do you think seattle and those few blocks looks like this? >> i don't know, we could have a summer of love. >> tucker: mayor durkan didn't care. it was just a party. she didn't -- he didn't care one

her own life was affected. she is demanding an investigation of city council member for limning a protest march. setting up a protest zone in the neighborhood is a crime. right. jason rantz is a radio host and we are happy to have them back tonight. is that the rule in seattle, you can start your own country downtown but you can't protest outside the mayor's house? >> to be clear, the council member is a morally bankrupt politician with oldies views. this is someone who basically makes a living of gaining power by dividing people. but this is a ridiculous claim by mary jenny durkan who to be fair, she's a former u.s. attorney and she's had her, she's gotten a lot of threats, so many of us have and so they basically took away access to the public, the information to your address. she's trying to keep this

private so people don't potentially act out on their threats. but the council member wants addresses out there. we've been doxxed as some of the coverage we've done. it's easy to jump on twitter and find jenny durkan's address. people shouldn't go to their houses. they shouldn't do it but it's interesting that the second part of the activism that comes into their neighborhoods all of a sudden we have to have an investigation and meanwhile a 16-year-old kid was essentially murdered by the group of twentysomething losers who are dressing up in a dangerous game of security, playing security at chop. presumably if the security members engaged in this from the antifa style groups, most likely they were white. it was potentially some white pretend security guards killing a 16-year-old black kid. >> tucker: because black lives matter, jason. thanks for joining us. the ironies keep accumulating. the mob keeps power of course,

as mobs always do, by crushing anyone who dares stand up against them. that's why we need to stand up to the people who do. just ahead weny will talk to mak mccloskey of st. louis who defended his home from a mob they wanted to hurt him. first will talk to melissa rolfe. his stepson, she was fired for being related to him. she joins us next. your local xfinity store is reopening.

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♪ it's been two weeks since atlanta police officer garrett rolfe was charged with murder in the killing of rayshard brooks. brooks attended to attack him with the stolen taser after knocking into the ground. the ordeal has been devastating for a lot of people including rolfe's family surprisingly. in the first days after the shooting his stepmother melissa rolfe was promised with the full support of her employer, equity prime mortgage. the head of the company texted her. "feedback has been positive. "i feel for you. garrett, dad, and the rest.

imu'll be back when the settles for you. it turned out to be alive. days later the company fired rolfe with this robotic message. "we have to terminate our relation trick a relationship you." melissa rolfe joins us with her attorney. thank you for coming on. to you, melissa, it is so distressing to think that because this isn't north korea and we don't believe in blood guilt that a person could be fired from a job because of who that person is related to. do you think that's why equity prime mortgage fired you? >> that is my belief. i believe their timing was impeccable and i believe that was the primary motive behind my being terminated. >> tucker: had you been in trouble with them? was there any indication they were going to fire you before you received the message that said that you were terminated? >> no, i had received full support from the president and from my direct manager that my

job was not in danger. i needed to be able to take care of my family and for the next six to eight weeks and not worry about it. my job would be safe and it would be waiting on me when i returned. >> tucker: exactly the time when you need a job, in the middle of a crisis like this. has anyone from equity prime mortgage called you to talk to you to explain why they fired you? >> no. i've not heard from anybody since i was terminated. >> tucker: where does that nleave you without a job right now? >> financially, it's tough. we are having to deal with garrett, but for us financially it's going to be tough. >> tucker: david, thank you for coming on. you know a lot about employment law. is it legal in this country tois fire someone because you don't like one of their relatives? >> [laughs]

well, in the state of georgia, the answer to that as a general rule would probably be you can fire them for that very, very arbitrary reason. it's not unlawful to do it under those circumstances but it certainly is immoral and i have handled many cases like this over 40 years. what you can't do, which is what they did do in this case, was after you graciously ran the story thursday week ago, their website was overwhelmed. more than 10,000 hits they got that literally shut down their website, shut down their social media posts. it was overwhelmingly negative. the result of that was they went on and made the post which was absolutely horrendous, it was terribly defamatory and it accused melissa of engaging in conduct that created a hostile work environment at the facility. when she left on friday before garrett's incident, she was held

in high esteem there. four days later, after telling her that she was being totally supported, the districtat attory brought charges against garrett and suddenly she was terminated. they got hammered by it spontaneously by the public and so they went on and tried to t blame it on melissa. and we look forward to having a jury of peers at some point correct this very egregious wrong. h >> tucker: it's almost beyond belief ands hard to know what kind of monster would do this. not only did they fire you for something you had nothing to doe with, something a relative was accused of, but then after they fired you, they smeared you. and let's be honest about what you were saying. for being a racist. that was the implication. that's what they were saying, that you are racist. how do you feel about that? >> flabbergasted might be the word i would use.

extremely hurt is another one because it couldn't be further from the truth. it's such a false statement. it has caused a worldwide embarrassment because we've had people from other countries reach out and ask, what on earth did you do? and we're not able to tell them anything. >> tucker: oh, my gosh. talk about compounding a tragedy. melissa rolfe, i appreciate you coming on. a thank you for explaining it. we appreciated. >> you're very welcome, tucker. >> tucker: the murder rate has exploded in cities across the country. maybe not entirely surprising once you start eliminating police department's. the question is, is black lives matter going to march for any of those lives? do they care? brit hume weighs in. plus st. louis homeowner mark mccloskey joins us just ahead.

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>> tucker: left-wing mobs across the country are destroying america's monuments. why are they doing this? simple. it's about power. if they can eliminate your past, they can control your future. >> what began in other states is now happening in colorado. at the entrance to druid hill park, george washington draped in red paint. >> protesters toppled statues and vandalize the user concourse area friday night. videos posted to social media show the moment francis scott key was dragged into the ground. protesters knocked down the statue of former president and civil war general ulysses s. grant and a statue of junipero serra. a man climbs on the pedestal. the man spray paints the word

genocide. >> tucker: all of this is happening, the war on history, all of it is supposedly justified by the concern over black lives. is it real? we can measure it. the past month has in fact been enormously and unusually destructive to black lives. in the city of chicago has been at t least 90 murders in the pat month. it's an annual pace of more than a thousand. shootings in new york have doubled compared to this time a year ago. kansas city is on pace to crush its all-time murder record. how many black lives have been lost? no one keeps track. you don't expect to see a blm merge demanding justice for these lives because apparently their lives don't matter to black lives matter. what should we make of it? fox senior political annualize t brit hume has been following it. you look at these numbers, each

one and american dad, each one a family bereaved and crushed. what does it make you think about the so-called black lives matter movement? >> let's be clear about what the black lives matter movement stands for. it's not about protecting receiving black lives. it's about protecting and saving some black lives. which is to say the black lives that are lost in the hands of police. the number which is dwarfed by those that are lost in the kind of urban violence that you described in chicago and new york and other cities. so let's put aside the idea the black lives matter is really about black lives matter in any meaningful sense. he said the tearing down of statues with seems to be a reflection of the ignorance of people doing it live exactly who the people they are tearing down aren't what they did. these things are not actions in any meaningful sense. they are gestures. the reason they are just gestures is that it's all they've got. the only substantive position that this movement has been

able, that's what it is, has been able to come with is the one to defund the police and whom do you think is going to be hurt worse by diminishing the police forces in these urban areas? it's the blacks and other poor people who live in these crime-ridden neighborhoods. so that is where we are. the fact, tucker, that this movement has taken root in corporate america the way it has come with all the sickening political correctness that's coming out of there about supporting black lives matter all the rest of it, it really is stomach turning. it amounts to serious, supposedly serious people falling for a fraud. >> tucker: i wonder if they are falling for it or if they are being intimidated into it? it doesn't strike me ass different what sharpton used it to do. threaten the company and get something in return. tens of millions of dollars of loan from these companies to the hands of activists. some people are getting richll from this. i think there's a lot of good hearted well-meaning people

involved but at the leadership level, it resembles a shakedown to me. >> yeah, i wouldn't disagree with that's my think some people, businesses are truly frightened. the great success of the civil rights movement and we have talked about it before, has been the virtually universal, unanimous consensus in this country against racism. the result of that is, to be called a racist or even successfully labeled one whether you are or not is reallyr something to fear in america. i think that's part of what's going on. i got a missive the other day from thein head of the secondary school in washington where i went, a very good school. he was the most sickening path i'd ever read. it was pure bowing of the need to these claims of the black lives matter movement i thought what does that school have to bo afraid of? i think not very much but in less they're just afraid that

the school in those who work there will be accused of racism but i can't imagine why anyone would bother but that's where we are. it's depressing to say the lea least. ng>> tucker: those schools are all going to be reeducation camps come september. they are going to torture those children. great to see you. it's time to talk to the most newsworthy man in america. his name is mark mccloskey. he's famous because he defended his home from a threatening mob in st. louis. a sorrows backed prosecutor is vowing to indict him. mark mccloskey joins us next.

♪ >> tucker: a st. louis couple called mark and patricia mccloskey became folk hero to many across the country if they are -- after they were confronted by a dangerous mob outside their home and returned with firearms to protect it and themselves.

>> let's go! >> keep moving! >> let's go! >> let's go! >> tucker: this is what you were taught to do. it's what generations of americans have done. it's the most basic right of all, the right of self-defense. the mccloskeys exercise that right and now they are coming close to being destroyed. they stood up for themselves against the mob, the mccloskeys feet remains in the hands of the mob in the form of the st. louis circuit attorney general. kimberly gardner is a radical prosecutor. garneau brought criminal charges and 23% of the cases the st. louis police brought her. her policies and help destroy that office. st. louis district attorney's office. since she took over, prosecutor

turnover has surpassed 100%. gardner's reaction to any criticism about this, never changes. allege a racial conspiracy against her and move on. at the start of this year, gardner sued the local police union and several city officials of accusing them -- accusing them of "a racially motivated conspiracy deny the civil rights of minorities." she charged them under the ku klux klan act. as if. gardner was clear about who she supported in it all. >> i've noticed that the attorney general is tweeting quite a bit about looters and eyoters. that -- not about the fact that we have a history of police violence in the city and nation and it's called people to take yet again tos demand for accountability and change in our criminal justice system. >> tucker: how dare you be angry about looting and crimes when the police are still out there enforcing the law? after the mccloskeys defended

themselves, gardner finally found a crime she cares about. she promised to have them punished if she could. >> i'm disturbed by the events that occurred over this weekend where there were peaceful protesters met with guns and a violent assault. we must protect the rights to peacefully protest and any attempt at intimidation or use of force will not be tolerated. learning of the events over the weekend, i've worked with the public and police to investigate the tragic events. i will use every extent of missouri law to hold individuals accountable. >> tucker: mark mccloskey joins us with his attorney. thanks so much for coming on and i'm glad you're on because you will tell your own story rather than having it tolled for you by ideologues. describe for us if you would why you believed you and your wifee are threatened by these 300 people in your yard? >> tucker, you've got to understand my house sits right

on the edge of road called kings highway and our private places portland place where myal wife d i were preparing to have dinner maybe 70 feet from the gate. by the time we looked up, we saa the marchers coming down kings highway and getting loud. we looked over the gate and there's no police there. our private security wasn't there. nobody was there and i look over my wife and i see all these people outside the gate and then the gate burst open. people start coming in and then a flood of people start coming in and they are angry and screaming. they have spittle coming out of their mouth. they are coming towards the house. on june 2nd of this year, the protests in downtown st. louis when violent instantly. the looting and violence and rioting, and watch on live tv the 7-eleven in downtown st. louis, from the moment the first window was broken throughout the looting process, until the fire was started and until the fire fully engage the building and nobody came that

entire time. i looked at my wife and i said oh, my god. we are absolutely alone. there's nobody here to protect us but ourselves. the same night that the retired police captain david dorn was murdered. when they came to the gate with their rage and anger, that werr would be overrun in a second. by the time i was out there with my rifle, the people were 20 or 30 feet from my front wall.ha i have a low wall that separates the house for my front yard. and so i was literally afraid that within seconds, they would surmount the wall and come into the house, kill us, burn the house down and everything that i'd worked for and struggled for for the last 32 years. tucker, i lived in west st. louis county and in a secure neighborhood 32 years ago we moved into the city and took on a project to restore a house that nobody else wanted. we were urban pioneers in those days, and we've been there ever since working to build and

maintain this very historic neighborhood. i saw it all going up in flames in my life destroyed in an instant. i did what i thought i had to do to protect my hearth, my home, and my family. >> tucker: no one was protecting you and they were screaming at you and threatening you and threatening to murder your dog and harm you and your wife. what do you make of the attacks on you for doing what we used to believe every homeowner had an obligation to do? why are they denouncing you a an racist? >> i don't understand. here's the interesting thing. i've spent my career defending people that are defenseless. people that are having a hard time making their miracle happen, for people who don't have a voice. my black clients love us. through the night this happened, i had some of our black clients calling us up at 2:30 in theus morning telling us how wrong it was, the press was writing us up, that we should be portrayed as racist.

this is what i do for a living. i help people that are down and need a hand and need a voice through to call us racist is ridiculous. it had nothing to do with race. i wasn't worried what the race was of the mob that came through my gate. i was worried that i was goingng to be killed. i didn't care what race they were. >> tucker: it's disgusting. quickly, mr. watkins, do you think that the mccloskey's face the risk of being prosecuted? given the fact that we have a political animal in the district attorney's office, there'sca a . if the law prevails, long-standing missouri law prevails, they are fine. >> tucker: we are certainly rooting for you. this is really a revealing moment and a travesty. i'm glad you are well. thank you for coming on tonight. thank you. coronavirus may just be the first in a series of pandemics. scientists now warned that another virus could threaten the

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>> tucker: coronavirus is the one disease we've thought about this year but it's not the only disease out there.se dr. siegel the latest on a new virus. >> as if we didn't have enough to worry about, the flu is also an unstable virus but now there is a swine flu emerging since 2016 in china and swine flu workers have been tested and 10% of them have been found positive with this which means it's starting to infect humans. big study came out on this. what's going to happen next? has part of the 2009 swine flu that caused a big pandemic of

60 million people getting infected in the united states alone, has part of what looks like the 1918 flu, the 1918 pandemic which killed over 50 million people. could it do all of that? right now it is in transmitting from human to human. so let's hope it stays that way, tucker. it is a concern that it seems to be getting into humans, buts again not spreading easily human to human. a word of caution. in 1976 we jump to the idea that emerging swine flu is a pandemic and we quickly made a vaccine and the side effect causes paralysis by believing the pandemic was occurring when it wasn't fair we've seen coronavirus at pandemic actually occurring from this kind of jumping. here's what i want to say and final: i say this is possible. thousands of flu viruses never make the jump. i'm going to keep an eye for this one, tucker. so far it hasn't made the jump. let's hope.

>> tucker: i hope so. thank you, dr. siegel. makes you think the way the chinese treat animals is not only immoral but alsoo dangerou. that'so it for our hour tonight. have the great rest of your evening. the great sean hannity takes over from new york. >> sean: do you know what's amazing about the corona thing? every model, every testing, wrong, wrong, wrong. everybody was wrong. the only one thing consistent is if we protect the older generation, older people, underlying conditions, compromised immune systems, that was the one thing that stayed consistent. we should learn from the lessons of corona now so we don't have to shut the country down. great show. welcome to "hannity." buckle up. it's on the breaking news to cover, including shocking new video from new york city where again the violence tonight is erupting in the police budget, get this, getting slashed by a