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♪ ♪ ♪ howie: this is media buzz. i'm howard kurtz. as coronavirus surge to record breaking highs 7 out of 9 days and surged back to top media's agenda many news outlets accused president trump of playing down the pandemic. the president did address it with fox business network. >> i think we will be very good with the coronavirus. i think that at some point that's going to sort of just disappear, i hope. >> you still believe so, disappear? >> we don't know if the president is working on coronavirus stuff anymore at all. again, while this is the kind of
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disaster we are in, the president doesn't talk about it anymore, he doesn't tweet about it. >> if the country was invaded by enemy force and the president left defense up to individual states the way he did with coronavirus, the president would be forced to resign. >> new rise in cases is not because businesses opened, the new rise in cases is because people have let their guards down and they have not been social distancing. >> no one is going to give the president the empathy, national left-wing media as you well know are going to beat him over the head with this nonsense because they are acting as though he is the cause of it when in fact, he is the solution. howie: joining us to analyze mollie hemingway, griff jenkins, in los angeles leslie marshall, radio talk show host. mollie, president trump went to briefing room to tout creation
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of 5 million new jobs and he said this is incredible news and comeback from the horrible event that took place in china. they could have stopped it. prevailing media narrative outrageous actions of china that's the president of the united states that didn't do enough to stop the virus. mollie: that has been the prevailing narrative and just in general the media coverage of this entire virus has been close to abomination, you might remember, they began by defense missing the threat of it and then they way overhyped the threat. it's a nasty virus but they made it significantly scarier and then ignored it during violent riots that destroyed cities and they are back to hyping it again. this really harms the ability of people to trust what they have to say when they see the screening from one extreme to another from the media instead of based in science that shows what the actual risk of coronavirus is. it is something that we have to deal with.
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when you hype it, you make it 5, 10, 20 times worse and at times you ignore it and pretend it went away, that's not a god way to build trust with the american people. howie: would you say since then it's the dominant story? griff: the virus has been such a dominating story out there and, of course, we know how tied the two issues are but i will offer this and that is that the president may want to bring that briefing back because the death rate is lower it's clearly surging in cases and so people want data which obviously isn't politicized. howie: leslie, when the president told fox business network that he hoped or thought the virus would vanish it gave a lot of cnn and msnbc show chance
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to replay clips down playing it in february, march before a lot of people in media knew it would be large. what do you think of mollie's point, the media hyped the impact of covid-19? leslie: sorry, disagree with mollie. i'm married to a physician. i see the despair on him, a neighbor of mine is an er doctor. i feel like maybe the media should have overhyped it before because we wouldn't have so many people not wearing masks, not social distancing or leaders of different states making decisions to not have enough requirements. look, texas is saying mandatory you wear mask, they should have done that before. this isn't a political thing. this is a statistical thing, if you look at new zealand, south korea and other areas in the world, if we had followed what they had done and states had
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followed what they had done maybe we wouldn't be at this point. a lot, howie, right now in second surge are the younger people who quite frankly when i will admit when was 20 thought it was invisible. howie: clearly. mollie, pew research show that 56% of republicans say covid-19 has been exaggerated and only 18% of democrats say that. how did we get such a partisan debate whatever the facts are about the deadly disease? mollie: well, i'd say the recent years provide context that helps explain that. there's a consequence to the media decide to go just throw off any pretense of objectivity to become partisan actsivist -- activists and media sees as ally to help them accomplish political goals and
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conservatives look back, they didn't get 2016 right, they lied about kavanaugh, they lied about the russian hoax, there's no reason to trust them now when they are making claims that are filtered through the partisan prism where nothing is reported on whether it help or hurts donald trump. that has serious consequences and it's something that many people in the media have not even begun to deal with. howie: leslie, the media don't make up numbers of new cases and, you know, you look at many states in south and west experiencing a surge they did not expect. the president tweeted this the other day, testing success gives the fake news media all they want which is cases and they don't hear from the fake news about deaths and the mortality rate going down. do you think the press doesn't make that distinction? leslie: well, quite frankly, part of the problem, howie, a lot of armchair quarterbacks whether they are politicians or talking heads like me that
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aren't scientists or physicians and if you talk to scientists and physicians there are a lot of people out there that are making assumptions based on death rate. the death rate is steady or not rising or even going down, that's good news but not necessarily and one of the problems with that as we know from the scientists is, look, it's called a novel coronavirus, because it's it's new, it's attacking any part of the body than any medical professional has seen. the press puts out the information and then others out there say, wait a minute, you said something different last week because it's very fluid. howie: griff, let me ask you, we had trouble conservatives defending the president on and the 60% media gets coronavirus news most of the time.
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that's quite a divide. griff: cdc, the doctors, experts were at the top you mentioned administration.m is preside 3 and 10, 30% thought they got it right across, cdc or local media, local federal governments and then the media. the administration should recognize in poll that they need to do a better job of getting out facts. howie: well, speaking of federal health officials fauci testified before senate committee that he's very concerned and said i wouldn't be concerned if we go up to a hundred thousand cases a day and that drew this response from fox's laura ingraham. >> dr. doom himself creating panic and undermining trump's agenda. can we admit that he's working for biden's campaign, he could
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be, i don't know, joe's running mate. howie: why has fauci been a lighting rod on the right? mollie: i'm not sure but somebody who has been inconsistent in his messaging and has responsibility back in march claiming that there was no need for anyone to wear a mask and now he says there is. that hurts trust, more than mig, he's a public health talking head. that doesn't make him an expert on everything and not somebody who has been particularly thinking through the downside that he's recommended. he's not an expert when you keep children out of school or forbid them for entering school in the coming years, he's not an expert, anxiety, loneliness, economic ruin. i think the media have been a little bit too much focused on what he had to say without going to other experts who can speak to other issues as well.
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howie: leslie, briefly, neil cavuto pushed back on congressman andy biggs that dr. fauci and dr. birx, their time expired and they are spreading panic and hysteria. spreading panic and hysteria? leslie: no, not at all. senator rand paul kind of did that as well, shame on him because he's an md. if i go to the doctor and the doctor wants to tell me i have cancer, that's not good news, howie, but he or she has a responsibility to tell me that because it is a medical fact. the doctors and the scientists aren't out there to give america a rosy picture of what's going on. they are out there to give america a factual picture of what's going on and interestingly, howie, who did the people run to when they get sick, the same medical professionals that they put down and poo-pooed in the couple of months.
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>> he's made the people around him afraid, ashamed, whatever word applies to each individual but applies to them not wearing masks either. >> biden, everyone around him is tested, using the mask as wedge issue, political issue and using that as a way to attack president trump. howie: the president changed his tone a bit in an interview with fox business network. >> i'm all for masks. i think masks -- if i were in a group of people and i was close. blake: i would wear one? >> i had a mask on and i liked the way i looked. howie: mollie, you have mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, dick cheney all saying wear mask, sean hannity taking a psa telling people to wear masks, why pundits are so proponent of
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mask wearing. poll mollie: it's excessive and counterproductive. it's emerging they say but undetermined and it's -- it's totally fine per people to wear a mask and it might cause no problems but i think the media have overstated their confidence based on this and using it as political. howie: for many in the media and some on the right now it's a symbolic situation. they would like to see the president set an example by putting on a mask. leslie: leader lead by example and this should not be a political issue. this is a social issue that we as society have the actually have not only the responsibility but the ability to get it under control and one of the ways is
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wearing a mask. you're protecting others and perhaps yourself and if the president did that it would be a uniting thing, howie, it would say, look, we are all on this together, politics aside, i'm wearing a mask, you do the same. i honestly think that would make him look better to those swing state voters who are undecided. howie: well, he says he looked like the lone ranger when he put on the black mask. let me turn to negative coverage of the president's speech at mount rushmore. here is a little bit of that. >> in our schools, our news rooms, even our corporate board rooms, there's a new far-left fascism that demands absolute allegiance. howie: griff, the president also talked about a new totalitarianism and the mere reaction at the very minimum that this was not an appropriate kind of speech for the fourth of july, your thoughts? griff: well, the criticism, of course, certainly from "the new york times" got the biggest headline saying it was dark and
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divisive, that was the headline yesterday and clearly there are many that criticized what the president said. let's not forget that you have lawlessness in the streets where they are tearing down christopher columbus and tearing down george washington, teddy roosevelt, lincoln, the statute here in washington all of whom where president gave speech and certainly missed an opportunity for reconciliation language. the point that he was trying to hit whether hit or not, i'm not sure, the point he was trying to hit that we need to protect the past statutes because of the significance that their story tells and example going forward. howie: mollie, you're looking at reaction, pete hegseth said it was a patriotic speech by the president, cnn, underrated call
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to arms for red america to blue america and allie said it was dark, disconnected, filled with apocalyptic rhetoric. mollie: what the media did is one of the most disgusting things in president trump's administration, president trump was talking about legitimate concerns of political correctness and about what's happening in the streets but also what's happening to culture that has moved away from freedom of speech, tolerance, freedom of expression. if this is viewed as controversial speech much less as darker divisive that's indictment of the media themselves and aligning themselves with the forces that are moving against freedom of expression, but regardless of what their personal feelings are they should report honestly and accurately instead of describing it in ways that are completely out of touch with the actual words that he gave. howie: mollie let me follow up what the president said, talked
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about definition of totalitarian. left-wing cultural revolution designed to overthrow the american revolution. you don't think that's at least a controversial speech? mollie: i think that what we are seeing in the streets is tremendously controversy. we are seeing statutes of george washington and thomas jefferson and abraham lincoln being torn down or threatened to be torn down. we have people move against the founders of the country and principles in stages across the land and that's what many people find controversial. standing in defense of america, standing in defense of american values is not controversial but regardless of personal views they should report honestly and accurately and that's not what we saw in newspapers or in various tv broadcasts as well. howie: leslie, the headline in the washington post and one of them was trump pushed to amplify racism, republicans enabled him, i mean, the coverage of this speech and one yesterday on
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july 4th was so incredibly critically and negative and i'm wondering t gotten one-sided. leslie: i don't know if it's one sided or is that actually what those who are writing whether they are reporters opining what they saw because it's what i saw. i did not see unity, i saw division. i saw no easing of racial tensions, i saw no easing of the fears that so many americans have including that have children with regard to covid-19 and the spike in numbers. no idea for plan and hope and pathway forward from now into the future as i want to hear from leader and celebration of our great nation on its birth july 4th, that's not what we heard. it was doom and gloom, it was fear-mongering and it was divisive. howie: all right, i think your position is very clear. it is a great nation, i will agree with that mollie hemingway. leslie marshall, griff jenkins, thank you for joining us this
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holiday weekend. ed henry, frequent guest of this program over the years is no long we are the network. fox news ceo susana scott and president and executive editor wrote on june 25th they received a complaint about ed henry from a former employee's attorney involving willful sexual misconduct in the workplace years ago. henry was suspended, fox retained outside law firm for independent investigation and within 6 days they said based on investigative findings ed has been terminated. ed henry later posted statement from his attorney who said henry denies the allegations referenced in the fox announcement and confident that he would be vindicated after a full hearing in an appropriate form. the attorney told me she had no further comment. difficult people -- moment for everyone here at fox
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howie: media controversy from the moment president trump announced he would be spending
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part of fourth of july at mount rushmore, no social distancing and the president delivered in part cultural message. >> angry mobs are trying to tear down statutes of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities. howie: joining us from the white house fox news correspondent mark meredith. mark, substantial media criticism with thousands of people mostly getting together not wearing masks, dc officials said don't go down to mall for fireworks because of risk of coronavirus, what's the white house view of media criticism about the staging of the events and the size of the crowds? mark: the white house is making information out for people to make individual choice about cdc
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recommends and what people choose or choose not to do. we heard the surgeon general i think on friday that, yes, large-scale events are a risk but if you have preexisting conditions maybe it's not the time to go out. similar what we heard in trump rally in tulsa. obviously that got so much attention but the president's advisers said then that this is not the rally for everybody, but it is interesting that the president has made it clear he would be holding the events although we have not seen howie, any indication when the next campaign event like the rally will happen, we are still waiting to find out, howie. howie: right, is there an element of defying the media which the president loves to do not just holding events drawing thousands of people knowing full well they'll be criticism from the press but also in giving a speech on july 4th weekend on angry mobs and new left fascism knowing full well he would get battered on the press on the subject matter. mark: the president says he
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doesn't feel he can get a fair shake on the press. yes, this has been add venue to do speech last night but the president did cover a lot of ground, american heros, history, executive order that they'll be doing guarding of american heros, honor people like harriet tubman, amelia earhardt, it was interesting the speech we heard last night on lawn was similar to mount rushmore. i thought they would have changed themes but they chose not to last night. howie: "the new york times" has taken flag for piece describing it this way mustn't rush moor was built on land that donged to tribe and sculpted by a man that had strong ties of ku kluz klan. cnn reporter calling this a monument of two slave holders, has the white house pushed back on that attack on mount rushmore? mark: they don't have a problem
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going to mount rushmore even though calls from native tribes in south dakota to tear it down. there's no indication that the white house embarrassed going out there. it's not as controversial as stone mountain in at will nota. mount rushmore holds more significance in american history and the white house thought this was the place the president could go and delivery symbolic message, either way he got his message out there, howie. howie: next on media buzz a lot more reporting on the story of russia offering bounties to kill american soldiers in afghanistan, but president trump insists is a media hoax.
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>> front page of new york times is not the venue for discussing classified information. rogue officer who is are
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imperilling our troops' lives. howie: when "the new york times" first reported that russia was offering bounties to taliban militants to kill coalition soldiers in afghanistan, president trump attacked the story as fake news and administration officials have acknowledged that the cia circulated the information to other intel agencies and it was shared with our british allies while focusing on the leak itself. >> this didn't rise to the occasion and from what i hear and i hear it pretty good, the intelligence people didn't even, many of them didn't believe it happened at all. i think it's a hoax. i think it's a hoax by the newspapers and the democrats. howie: the times has since reported that the russian bounty allegations were included in written presidential daily brief back in february. president as you just heard still insist he was wasn't briefed on unverified allegation s. as pundits debated the issue and democratic nominee weighed in
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trump pounded on twitter, people do not understand fake news media hoax started to slander me and the republican party. >> where is the shock for our troops? if you're the parent from the soldiers, he's cowarding i didn't know about it. >> hey, the president wasn't briefed on this because maybe the intel isn't where it should be. >> i was briefed every morning before i got to the white house and then again, and the idea that somehow he didn't know or isn't being briefed, it is a dereliction of duty if that's the case. howie: emily compagno and philippe reines. emily, how is he saying it's
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hoax when officials say it was shared with the pentagon and including britain. >> that's a question that many americans are asking because hoax is so loaded and i think there's ways to include would alienating the rest of the people that have questions, look, there's credibility and questions that come with single course reporting, that doesn't rise to the briefing of level of nsc without frankly calling hoax. the press is pouncing on that and saying this is standard operating procedure from this administration when the white house is essentially under heat, what they do is redirect back to the media's voracity. howie: philippe, the president and the white house continue to insist that the president was not briefed on this matter by which they mean not verbally informed in the oval office but they have been careful not to deny that the times subsequently reported that the information was included in the written presidential brief.
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>> howie, i'm hearing you very choppy, i'm not saying it's a message of voidance but following up on emily, i would say the president keeps calling things hoaxes that his own administration, his own white house acknowledged are in existence, so whether he wants a debate about what was told to him or not, the media is correctly covering the parts of his administration including own white house press secretary, the underlying intelligence does exist and it's being debated. now that -- if that's the process in this white house, then the media has very accurately covered what emily has said which is that that is out of the norm that you would not tell the president of the united states. the media very smartly had many people on from varying administrations including the trump administration that you don't wait until something is 100%, you don't wait until something is a fact,
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intelligence is about telling something when you have indication especially if it's a threat to our forces. howie: okay. well, emily, the press secretary kayleigh mcenany blaming rogue intelligence officers for leaking this to new york times she says to undermine the president. and i understand their concern of classified leak, how do you simultaneous i will say that rogue officers are putting out this information, this is terrible and also that it was so unverified that it didn't rise to the level of briefing the president? emily: right, i think that's what defense attorneys do myself included which is throw a bunch of defenses out there and see what sticks. she did point to the fact that this administration has suffered frankly an average yearly criminal leak surge of 139 as compared to 104 compared to obama administration of 39. that is -- that is worthy of our attention and acknowledgment. you're absolutely right that it's difficult for americans to understand that there's a
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difference between finished intelligence product that make its way to president of the united states or nsc and those single reporting which is in the process of verification. the finished products are the result of hundreds of thousands of essentially analytical horsepower hours and even then it's still not finalized. it's never 100% howie: philippe, let me say many conservatives don't trust who was a middleman, the paper says in getting russian payments and investigators found half a million dollars in cash in one of his houses but the president said this story was a phoney hit job. >> philippe: i don't know what that means. phoney hit job from who from his own intelligence agencies -- howie: no, by the press. phoney hit job by "the new york times", yes. >> have fox itself not confirmed
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this? i think it has. fox itself has basically debated whether it reached the president so i'm not exactly sure what the hit job is because if it didn't -- if it existed but didn't reach the president, then that's something he should be having a conversation with his own chain of command about, about the flow of information regarding threats and intelligence. you know, it's the boy who cried hoax too much that just because something doesn't go his way, i mean, a week ago he loved "the new york times" when they had a bad michael -- john bolton review, so this is not helpful and the problem that the media has also highlighted is that he has not said a word about, okay, now that i know, this is a problem and this is something we will not tolerate and this is something i have made very clear to the russians that we will absolutely not stand for. all he does is complain he wasn't told and being fact-checked by people like john
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bolton and you can question credibility given circumstances that he left you he's yelling at the wrong people. howie: philippe set up my last question, knowing this, even though it's not 100%, why isn't the president speaking out against russia and demanding answer from putin, is that fair or unfair from your view? emily: i think it's continuing the trend. i think it's a fair assessment that the administration has not levied the tough approach that americans deserve, the putin and the russian country have administered and influenced operation and aggressive operations far before this administration came into power and will do and continue to do so far after. and the headlines have said, lookings he continues his silence, no wonder he would do anything for putin and calls it the new russian problem. howie: that's been the debate. all right, let me get a break here and a look at joe biden holding his first news conference since april, will the press finally start holding him
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accountable?
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howie: joe biden held his first press conference since april and he made news especially with the last question from fox doug. >> i forget my train of thoughts from time to time, have you been tested for some degree of cognitive decline. >> look, all you have to do is
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watch me and i can hardly wait to compare my cognitive capability to that cognitive capability of the man i'm running against. >> emily compagno, until that day joe biden had taken no questions from the press corp. in the month of june, 5 interviews that month to president trump's 21, i understand the restrictions of covid-19 but having the media -- why haven't the media been insisting that he be more accessible to reporters? emily: i think highlighting the fact that he has been essentially paying attention to covid restrictions, they've been supporting him in that way and i know too that they've said that his campaign is still flourishing, they say he's rising with a less is more campaign. they are sort of using that to elevate the strength of his campaign rather than pointing out the fact that he has been incestable. howie: the washington post used that phrase. some are embracing the biden in the basement strategy saying he continues to rise in the polls.
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let me just get to my question which is aren't we the first ones to demand that candidates talk to us because we represent the american people and holding them accountable? >> philippe: you are not only the first but tend to be the last but you all want a shot at him but he's been doing many interviews and i don't think -- what's funny is that the trump campaign is basing its strategy in parton hoping that joe biden will answer as many questions and that make as many gaffes as possible. what we never talk about two things, first, that every time the president opens his mouth or tweets he's the real gaffe machine, if they should be worried about anyone taking questions it should be him and not joe biden, but i would -- i would implore the media to remember something as we move on to the general election. in 2016 the last time donald
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trump gave a press conference was july 28th, he never did so again after july 28th all the way through the election, so if this criticism is going to continue, then it needs to be pointed out that he himself didn't do it. howie: except he did many, many interviews and he talks to the press all of the time. emily, my question is this, what do you make of the fact that biden actually made news when he talked to reporters because that's how you make news in this environment, but at the same time the reporters were accused of mostly throwing softball questions at him, what's your take? emily: right, unfortunately it does disservice to all of us, the media call out from candidate biden and president trump what their agenda will be or would be in the next administration. we deserve something to vote for and know what that is rather than voting against something. the press pointed out that president trump portrayal of biden has, quote, has not worked
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because fundraising numbers have exploded in june, they say and that he is still again having the flourishing campaign, but the bottom line is it's the media's role to call out tough questions so that we know who we are voting for. howie: i would say reporters substantive questions not really pressed by his position and what do you make and biden asked questions at so-called conference yesterday says president trump where he read answers from teleprompter, that means he was given the questions just like crooked hillary, never have seen this before. philippe. >> i'm not sure you finished speaking but i got the jest of the question. that accusation considering that question he got about cognitive ability came from fox news so unless someone is saying that fox news was part of this crazy
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conspiracy to give someone the question, i don't understand yet again what the attack is, the attack is just for the cheer -- sheer action for making making e attack but the media is covering that attack isn't working but what the media should be doing that isn't doing and up until now they treated a topic of cobbing in addition and mental health as taboo and they have made it a central issue it's incumbent upon the media, every network to delve into that and say let's look at their cobbing in addition but what's good for the goose is good for the gander and i'm not sure that donald trump wants to play that game.
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howie: great discussion, thank you very much. facebook getting black eye from advertiser as mark zuckerberg changes course on policing network. that's in the case sorry i'm late, everybody, and apologies for my appearance. you look fine. we were just talking about -- yeah, right. i look like a wanted poster. i didn't have time to get my beard routine in this morning, so... what beard routine? ah. well, the key is maple nectar. gives it that sheen. is there something wrong with my screen? -mnh-mnh. -jamie, what are talking about? you're right, alan. we should be talking about bundling home and auto with progressive, not this luscious mane of mine. [ laughs ] jamie, do you know what a beard is?
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howie: civil rights boycott of facebook is drawing media, more than 500 companies, starbucks, honda, coke have pulled advertising, mark zuckerberg will meet with boycott leaders as he agreed to put warning labels on some posteven though they are from president and other politicians. brett larson, bret, why has the civil rights advertising boycott has been so effective and how damaging has it been to facebook?
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bret: pretty damaging, howie, it's interesting to note when you're using facebook, you're not the customer, you're actually the product, facebook is selling you and your data and everything that you're doing, all the likes, all the pictures that you share, all the comments that you make, all the posts that you make, all the ads that you click on, all of that data is sold to advertisers so it's interesting that now it's the advertisers, all right, hold on a second, we are not going to have advertisements in line with all this other content that is being created by users if people are posting racist or hateful things, we don't want that to show up next to an ad for one of our products. youtube had the same problem back in 2017, i think a lot of people have since forgotten about, where advertisers were saying, hold on a second, you can't have these conspiracy theory, these crazy hateful videos up and then have our ad be the prerole for it so you need to put restrictions in
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place so it's good that the advertisers are stepping forward and saying enough is enough. howie: right, yeah, but under the kind of pressure mark zuckerberg has basically done a big retreat and resisted police and content and now slam warning labels on anything that incites hate speech or violence or voting suppression. why did he change his mind? bret: facebook lost a lot of money in stock value, they lost over $50 billion, he lost billions of dollars in value from the amount of the company that he owns, so he's seeing the pressure, you know, when users decide, you know what, we are going to log off facebook for a month you need a lot of users to log on facebook for a month before they would feel the impact, when the advertisers stepped forward and say, at least for the month of july, that's going to hurt facebook's bottom line.
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interesting sheryl sandberg said late or earlier this year that 8 million advertisers so there's a lot of people advertising on facebook and there's god reason for it. it's very effective and i've heard anecdotally a lot of brands struggle with this because facebook's audience is so right for picking and makes it hard to cut your ad budget to them. howie: right, right, journalists writing new york times that she's deleting facebook account, deactivate it. zuckerberg not making the left or the right happy because he's controversial, we are out of time, thank you very much for your help brett larson. howie: hope you're enjoying the mouth of july i celebrated by watching the movie hamilton, what a brilliant play, check out facebook page, we continue the conversation on twitter and you might want to listen to podcast
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