roducts. [conference phone] baloney! [conference phone] has joined the call. hey baloney here. i thought this was a no by-products call? land o' frost premium. a slice above. los angeles. "tucker carlson tonight" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," happy friday. if you think about it, it turns out that revolutions cover a multitude of sins. once every conversation in your country turns political, only the politicians benefit from it. in a normal moment, the peopleco in charge will be in deep s trouble right now. the rest of us might be asking the hard questions about why things seem to be falling apart at the most basic level. why our streets are filthy, why violent crime is rising and why nothing seems to work. we pay a lot to keep society functioning, all of us of all parties, and suddenly we are not getting a lot in return for that. it's not a very good deal. but in the age of blm, our leaders don't have to answer for this. they just give speeches about

social justice. they are insulated from all criticism. if you persist in bothering them about their incompetence, they will have you arrested for hate crimes. so revolution is the best thing that ever happened to our political class. you see that with perfect clarity in new york city. a few months ago, bill de blasio was a national joke, not anymore. is hisblasio generation's al sharpton. he is a protest leader fighting in the streets for civil rights. the good news is, de blasio no longer has even to pretend to run new york city. and he's not. his public schools, for example, are failing. in new york, which is the biggest school system in the country, fewer than half the students are proficient in english and math. that is a disaster, most of all for the students themselves. why is that happening? why are the schools failing? city officials don't want to have that conversation. acknowledging that there is a icmassive problem might require them to do something to fix it. their donors in the teachers unions oppose change of any kind unless of course it's a raise. leaders in new york don't have to address it.

they can ignore failing schools. instead of helping kids learn, the city can blame racism and call it a day. it may seem like a weird strategy, strange explanation in new york, racism. because the school population in new york is 84% nonwhite. not that many white kids to blame. but that hasn't stopped the chancellor of the school system. he recently shared a statement pledging his commitment to antiracism and to "work every day" to undo the systems of injustice. you notice the chancellor was not more specific than that. he didn't specify which systems of injustice he was talking about or how they work. maybe that's because the kids with the highest test scores in new york city are not white. they are asian. asian students score far higher than any other ethnic group in new york city. not just higher scores in math but also higher scores in his -- english proficiency. that seems odd. so many of these students come

from poor immigrant families where no one at home speaks english. so at first glance, these kids don't seem to have much privilege. so how are they so successful? well, racism, obviously. there's no other possible explanation for disparate test scores. we are told that every day. must be a stealthy kind of racism they are practicing. indeed, this is an especially diabolical strain of racism one that helps nonwhite immigrant kids most of all. it's a "system of injustice" that allows penniless foreigners from faraway countries to arrive here with no language skills whatsoever and still shoot to the top. obviously, ladies and gentlemen, what we are dealing with here is systemic racism at its mostal systemic. the mayor's wife is in charge of fixing problems like this. mrs. de blasio was the city's systemic racism czar but in ther end, she wasn't any more specific about the problem in the chancellor of schools have

been. she didn't explain how this kind of diabolical racism actually works. what she did say, the one thing she's actually confident about is that white people are to blame. >> even in 2020, to be a person of color means to live a parallel existence with white new yorkers. that reality needs to be understood beyond communities of color. that truth must inform the curricula in our schools, our history books, the memorials we honor, and even how we perceive one another. >> tucker: oh. so the asian kids are doing better than anyone else in school,>> therefore we must tear down statues of white people. got it. makes sense. suddenly this kind of thinking is everywhere.. here's a tape from a meeting of the community education council in manhattan. the sad part is these are some of the people who are supposed to help educate the children of new york city, who badly need education. see how many references you catch as you watch this to reading or math. compare them to the time these people spend attacking each other for being too white.

>> it hurts people when they see a white man bouncing a brown baby on their lap and they don't know the context. that is harmful! that makes people cry. i take that to heart and that hurts me, and i for one want to be a better white person. you don't have people tell you that.et >> i would like to know before this meeting adjourns how having my friend's nephew on my lap was hurtful to people and was racist. n can you please explain? >> i just explained it! yyou can google. you can read a book. read a book! read "white fragility," read -- "how to talk to white people." it's not my job to educate you! you're an educated white man! >> tucker: that is the education council. the students of new york city, 84% nonwhite, most can read

-- can't read proficiently. what a tragedy. but it is true, they did talk about reading for second in the tape you just saw the end. they would like you to read something called "white fragility" by robin diangelo. it's not really a book. it's what would call a tract,, a screed, a diatribe,ca wild-eyed hate propaganda you push before you start to really start hurting people. it's preemptive justification for abuse. here is the author explaining her thesis on nbc. >> i'll never forget asking a group, okay, so what if you could just give us feedback on our inevitable and unaware racist assumptions and behaviors i'll never forget this black man raising his hand and saying, it would be revolutionary. revolutionary that we would receive the feedback with grace, reflect, and seek the change or behavior. that's how difficult we are. that's how big a a-holes we are. >> tucker: white people are

a-holes. there you have the accumulated scholarship of ms. robin diangelo. robin diangelo, keep in mind, is probably the single most popular figure in american education right now. school districts around the country have made "white fragility" required reading. your children will almost really read it or be taught by people who read it. what does that mean? it means that schools have been closed for months now so the revolution underway in classrooms has been hidden for your view. but you're about to find out the hard way how they've changed. libby evans is a senior editor, mother of school-aged children, like all parents, she's worried about what's going to happen in the fall and she joined us tonight to give us a preview of what is. libby, thanks so much for coming on. things seem so political in schools and so crazy in the most poisonous kind of way that i think a lot of people areie worried about is going to

happen come september. are you worried? >> i am worried. in fact, i have been worried for some time. it was rather interesting after george floyd's death, my son's school, at the suggestion of school chancellor richard carranza, started doing antiracism lessons and talking about the protests in the riotsa and all of fact. and what was really interesting to me is that with lessons in antiracism, they were teaching bias where perhaps none had existed before. they were teaching my son and the students in his class, which are primarily first and second-generation immigrant students, that we are not equal, that, in fact, white students have inherited a legacy of racism from their grandparents and parents, that their grandparents and parents may not even be aware they've inherited this legacy and passed it on, and that students are, you know, stuck with it, there's not really much they can do about it. >> tucker: so they are

singling out -- >> it's pretty shocking to -- >> tucker: they are singling out children on the basis of characteristics they were born with and can't control and attacking them. if they did this to, i don't know, gay kids or filipino kids, there would immediately be a government response to shut the school down because you're not allowed to do that.li why is it allowed to happen? >> yeah. it's allowed happen because critical race theory is incredibly pervasive in the american education system. the teachers who teach the kids in school have studied critical race theory. they've gone through excessive antiracist and antibias training and they think that this is all very normal to talk about how black children should primarily be pitied for the suffering that has come to them at the hands of, you know, the white oppressors and that white students are primarily all -- oppressors.

this is a common language of our schools today. it's what bill de blasio is pushing. it's what the schools are pushing. it's what we saw on the community education council that you showed. and it's pretty common. it's what's being taught, and it's being taught to the exclusion of american history. it's being taught to the exclusion of the belief that we are all equal under the law. that we are all equal in the eyes of god and really it's very un-american to teach this kind of bias, to teach racism or perhaps none existed before. >> tucker: yeah, i mean, it's hate, and it's utter poison. what can parents do? by the way, it also destroys trust between kids. it makes friendship impossible. i mean, it really kind of wrecks your society faster than anything else. what can parents do about it? why do parents feel they have to sit and accept this? >> i don't know why parents feel they have to sit and accept it other than s they feel they migt be called racist themselves for not going along with it, as we've seen in so many different clips. i think parents need to understand that pulling their

kids out of school and doing homeschooling and things like that might be greatoi for their own kids, but it's not going to be great for the future of american students and the future of america's leaders. so parents need to get involved in their public school districts. they need to speak up, and the need to say, you know, the truth which is that antiracism, the way it's currently being taught and the way it's currently being indoctrinated into america'sly students from very low grades, from elementary school on up, it's not american. it's not engendering equality, and it's not going to create an actual group of educated children. it's just going to create a bunch of people who feel bad for themselves and feel bad forac others and are ashamed of who they are and where they came from. it's unacceptable. >> tucker: you shouldn't wattack little kids. >> parents need to get involved. yeah. yeah. and there is no reason to ever believe that, yeah. and no one should ever be taught that they are more or less worthy based on skin color. i thought we knew this in america.

i thought this is what the civil rights movement taught us and i don't know why we are reversing course. >> tucker: i'm going to go ballistic if they try that crap and i think all parents should and i mean it too. libby, thank you so much. >> you're right, thank you.. >> tucker: we are in a situation where it's with individuals against the mob. online, other newsal organizations, cnn particularly. how can people stand up to the mob and prevail? chadwick moore knows the answer because he's one of the very few who's actually done this. chadwick moore, thanks much for joining us tonight. without getting into all the details of the debate, you took an unpopular position on twitter a couple of weeks ago and you were landed on by the normal online mob. what made you different from most people i've seen is that you didn't apologize. "we're going to get you fired," you were told, and you didn't f

move an inch, and here you are tonight. what lessons for the rest of us can you present? >> you've got to understand whan the mob is. for people, average people who've never encountered thenc mob, for them it's maybe the most terrifying thing they could ever imagine happening to them,t being the trending topic on twitter because they tweeted a joke that fell flat, they were caught on camera in an awkward situation or what have you. but they don't understand that the mob is mainly for people going after whatever online.th not only is it by and large left-wing nut jobs but it's not real life for these people. they live on their computer. it's a video game for them. and as soon as you sort of realize that, it doesn't mean anything, and as soon as you know you can stand fast and strong and what you believe, if you're completely convinced you did nothing wrong, in my case i made a funny joke intentionally to annoy two different groups of people. and it worked supremely well. but if you kind of, if you

believe in yourself. average people are never going to be prepared for this, and they shouldn't have to be, but if enough people start standing up to the mob and refuse to bow down to them, then we start to win. the biggest fear for many people is losing their jobs, and you know, a lot of these corporations just want to avoid the headache. they don't really care. they want the easiest way out. so if start convincing corporations and companies to just ignore it, if everyone knows that if you are -- if the mob comes for you, that it will be over and maybe 36 hours. i i think it starts to lessen their power. >> tucker: i've always wondered about this. you know, people are afraid of getting fired and they absently should be. it's very hard to find a job. we're in the middle of a recession. likely to get much worse. i've been unemployed repeatedly so i know the fear and i think it's a real one.ed however, why do people who are about to be fired, for example, telling a joke, make it so easy for their employers? why not just go completely ballistic in h.r. and say it's going to be a bigger problem for

you if you fire me. i'm not going willingly to my fate. i'm sorry. i'm resisting. i'm going to go berserk. you do that a couple times, maybe they'll think twice about firing you. no? >> that's right. i think maybe a big part of it is what the mob teaches us, the leftist stuff teaching us inea this historical revisionism and the hatred you're seeing in the schools like you were discussind in your previous segment, we now sort of know, all these conversations -- none of this is really about race or whatever. it's about the line of acceptable discourse. it's what's socially acceptable to talk about and not talk abour and there's a small class of people who have designed those rules and they've done it for political power, for political reasons. they want to frighten everyone. but there's an idea called preference falsification it was written about a lot after the fall of the soviet union. it's the idea that people and we saw this a lot in 2016 with the election polls, it's the idea that people not publicly express what they truly feel if it's not socially except will.

-- acceptable. that's what we see a lot with this discussion. it's so powerful that i think even privately with the h.r. department, people are thinking yeah, i don't know how i can ever defend this. thousands of anonymous people on twitter calling me a racist. how can i ever defend that? i will just walk into the shadows and hope i get a new job. >> tucker: i don't think i've ever seen a conservative on twitter ever say anything half as immoral as robin diangelo writes on every page of her garbage tract "white fragility." let's have some context. [laughter] best selling book in america! let's get some perspective. >> you see all these conservatives on twitter, it's almost like they believe the worst things about their own elside. they are the first ones to accuse the covington kids, if you remember that, they were the first ones to jump on anything else, so that's team twitter.

>> tucker: it was thrilling to see you stand up and survive. chadwick moore, congratulations. inspirational. we have a fox news alert. we can confirm that the president has commuted, just commuted the sentence of roger stone, that's days before stone was expected to report to prison for the rest of his useful and expected life. his arrest and his trial were nakedly political. it was a set up. stone posed no risk to law enforcement, a late middle-aged man without a gun and yet the fbi swarmed his house in a predawn raid, tipped off cnn, which was there to chronicle it and then lie about it. the presiding judge, a political activist called amy berman jackson issued a gag order that prohibited stone from defending himself in public or making a living. she bankrupted him as a result. even though many public figures have faced no consequences for lying to congress, jim clapperha for example, stone was warned

that if he were to face prison time. he would've faced more than three years, essentially a life sentence. so again, roger stone's sentence has been commuted by the president. this is good news. keep a sharp eye out for the ghouls out there who will lecture you about how this is a violation of the rule of law. even as our most basic laws are ignored completely by the mob. they don't care about the law. they care about putting their political opponents in prison and tonight they're not going to be able to, thank god. joe biden, a little out of it, let's be completely honest. so he is the perfect vessel for the activists in his party to transform the country. details on that just ahead. transform the country. details on that just

♪ >> tucker: when joe biden first arrived in the u.s. senate, sounds like a joke. actually many of you were not alive when that happened but it was a long time iago. gasoline cost $0.39 a gallon. the sears tower had just been built. the miami dolphins were good.. he ran for president three times, committed quite a few gaffes. the years went on and over time

the life drained from joe biden like sands through an hourglass and he became empty in effect, an empty vessel. perfect for the ideologues transforming his party to transform the country. ned ryan has watched all that happen. and he's the founder and ceo of american majority and he joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. i think a lot of us misread joe biden. we knew joe biden. everyoneol who's covered politis in washington knows joe biden, including me, we've liked joe biden. but you realize joe biden's gone and then you realize that's not a defect. that's the point. that's why the party likes him. >> that is the point.is joe biden is now the front man for the aoc-sanders agenda. the democratic establishment realized sanders was never going to cut it as the nominee and a general election. put biden on the front of it,

it's lipstick on a pig. biden is an empty vessel, trojan horse. he's not writing his tweets. he's not writing what's on his teleprompter. that he can barely get out. it looks like aoc and sanders are writing all of his policy because they are using them to achieve their ends. they want to get universal health care including free illegals, amnesty, reparations, free college, the green new deal. i will say, tucker, the thing that's scary about all this is if they're given power that's the agenda that's only accomplished by the discourse of socialism but to bring it even close to home, biden says he wants to end shareholder capitalism. i want people listening to understand he's talking about you. t if you have a 401(k) and pension plan, your blue-collar worker, union member, retiree sitting in florida living off your pension, a suburbanite with a retirement plan, joe biden's think is going to end shareholder capitalism and you are all shareholder capitalists. he's talking about destroying your dreams and ending your way of life.

>> tucker: i noticed he's not talking about ending private equity capitalism. those are his donors and he's also not talking about ending aneoconservatism. a biden presidency would almost certainly bring usso more. pointless wars. it's a corporate leftism that he's offering it seems to me. >> this is correct. you see the rise of corporatism, the woke corporations that are siding with the blm and others and i tell people this, tucker, the thing that's pretty staggering about all of this, should biden win, god forbid that he does, we are not going to have free and fair elections again. you talk about amnesty for tens of millions. potentially tens of millions of illegal immigrants, you tack on universal mail-in ballots, free and fair elections are over and people have asked me, we always say it's the most important election of our lifetime, i think you have to go back to 1860 to fully understand the implications of 2020. donald trump is the last bulwark for the republicans.

he doesn't win, it's a descendant into darkness. >> tucker: i think that may be right. there are reports tonight that the president has endorsed tamnesty for the daca populati. there is some confusion about whether that's true. there is a clip from an exchange he had on telemundo in which he seems to say that the white house is suggesting that's not what he meant and that's not what he plans to do. do you have clarity on that? >> i don't, but i will say this, tucker, if he is watching, those only one executive order that you should actually be signing, smr. president. it is the buy america executive order that should've been signed three months ago. coming into the election, we are 16 weeks away. you should not be signing anything in any way that gives amnesty to anyone, and those that are advising him to do such a thing, he needs to shut them out and follow his instincts. i've told him he's got some of the best instincts in politics that i've seen in years. shut those voices out, follow your instinct. it's what helped him win in 2016 and it will lead them to victory again in 2020, but only if he

shuts those voices out. >> tucker: yeah. i don't think we need to guess who you're talking about. ned ryan, great to see you. thanks so much. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: the chinese government is the main reason of course that the rest of us have had our lives suspended and our economy destroyed by the wuhan coronavirus. they covered it up. apparently it came from one of their labs. there is new information tonight about just how extensive the lying about it was. gordon chang has that for us next. itching for a treat. itching for an outing... or itching for some cuddle time. but you may not know when he's itching for help... licking for help... or rubbing for help. if your dog does these frequently. they may be signs of an allergic skin condition that needs treatment. don't wait. talk to your veterinarian

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>> tucker: a chinese virologist, dr. li-meng yan, is in hiding tonight after criticizing the chinese government's duplicitous response to the wuhan coronavirus. here is part of what she said to fox news. >> the reason i came to u.s. is because i deliver the message of the truth of covid-19. if i tell it in hong kong, the moment i start to tell it, i

will be disappeared and killed. no one can hear me. so for this purpose, i'd like to go to u.s. and tell the truth or the origins of covid-19 to the world. so that people understand how terrible, how dangerous it is. this is nothing about politics. this is about the humans in the world and how they can survive. >> tucker: for telling the truth, the doctor says she will be quote disappeared and killed. this is the government, the nba, and so much k of corporate america, so much of our politicians suck up to, one who murders doctors for telling the truth. this doctor says beijing is suppressing vital information about the virus. >> there are many, many patients that don't get treatment on time and diagnosis on time. there is no protection for both doctors and the patient and the common people. and also the government doesn't

allow people to release such information. hospital doctors are scared but they cannot talk. staff are scared. i feel very despondent but i know this would happen because i know the corruption, among an international organization like w.h.o. to china government, party government. >> tucker: let's hope she gets a chance to speak on cnn. don't bet on it. gordon chang is the author of the book "the coming collapse of china." can't come too soon. gordon, thanks so much for coming on. do you buy her story? >> i do, tucker, because she talks about a change in attitude in colleagues in hong kong as well as the people that she was in contact with in china. that occurred about the middle of january. that is consistent with what we

know about the cover-up in china. so the timelines match up, and that's really critical. so yes, i do believe she's not only compelling. she's also credible. >> tucker: so why wouldn't she be a prominent voice in the discussion about covid-19? i worry that she will not get a hearing except on this channel. >> well, she carries a message that is going to be discordant with what we hear elsewhere because this has become, like president trump versus everybody else, so you have a lot of people propagating china's narratives in this country because it is politically expedient for them to do so in the short term. of course we are in a political season. but as she says, this is not an issue of politics, and it's very important that we listen to what she says because it does corroborate much of what we know about what the world health organization and china were doing in that critical january period. >> tucker: what do you think -- let me just agree with you

emphatically. this isn't about the president. it's not about politics. it's about public health which isn't served when governments lie to cover their own misdeeds or mistakes. what do you think the truth is about the origin of this disease? >> we don't know. i mean, there's two main theories, of course. one of them is this was zoonotic transfer in the wild from an animal to a human. the other is that it was an accidental release from the wuhan institute of virology and i have to say that my view is the latter one.t because most diseases in china originate, and these coronavirus diseases originate in southern china. all of a sudden, we have one originating in the middle of china within 20 miles of china's p4 biosafety lab. it's extremely suspicious. we know that a chinese major general was put in charge of the lab sometime around march and i believe that she cleaned up the

lab to prevent from the world knowing any evidence of what was going on. >> tucker: because chinese researchers reached the conclusion that you have reached, there is evidence that this happened. is anybody in the so-called international community working to find the truth and working to make sure it doesn't happen again? that nothing like this is unleashed on the world. >> what we are seeing is the world health organization covering up for china. they have now got to researchers in beijing to prepare the way for a third w.h.o. mission to china. but they are only studying this zoonotic transfer. they are not going to wuhan from what we can tell, not going to the wuhan institute of virology. so really it's an attempt to bolster china's narrative which was built, i think, the narrative was built by china to divert attention away from what it was doing in the biosafety lab. >> tucker: what a tragedy if the propaganda works as it's a so often does.

gordon chang, thank you for your clarity on that. forappreciate it. we have some good news to report on treatments for the wuhan coronavirus. fox news medical contributor dr. marc siegel has been following it and he joins us with an update. >> tucker, it's good news foree the weekend in the world of science against covid. let's start with remdesivir, the antiviral drug.. we reported on this all the way back in february. we were probably the first to actually interview dr. andre kalil, who was the lead investigator into remdesivir. it's a clever drug because it insinuates itself into covid-19, the sars-cov-2 virus in the virus mistakes it for a building block. rsmeanwhile the antiviral drug stops it from growing and tonight gilead has announced it their data shows that it decreases the death rate in severely ill patients by 60% in the hospital, 60%, and improves the quality of life and improves clinical outcomes. this is huge. they are coming up now with an

inhaled version, will the one that's out now is intravenous and the inhaled version may be able to be used much earlier. we are getting hundreds of thousands of doses from health and human services. it's a real game changer, very exciting news.er the second news tonight is on the vaccine front. biointech, vaccine manufacture, working together with pfizer, has come up with information that their first studies on what's called a messenger rna vaccine, this vaccine is also very clever. it's a genetic strand of material that teaches your cells to make the spike protein that's on the virus and guess what happens next. that protein causes an immune response. you know what the news is today? they have discovered that the immune response, the antibodies are greater than the amount of antibodies made by somebody recovering from covid-19. in fact, my inside medical sources tell me that the kind of antibodies being made are

neutralizing antibodies, the very kind that you need to neutralize this virus. next stop:to 30,000 people will be tested. biontech and pfizer are predicting they will have a vaccine by the end of the year. this looks very, very promising, tucker. hats off to dr. kalil. hats off to the vaccine scientists. in fact, i want to give our t hs off to the whole idea of science. not politics. science. battling covid-19. in the middle of a pandemic and winning. what a sign of hope for the weekend, tucker. >> tucker: middle of not just a pandemic but a presidential election in which a lot of science has been rendered impossible. i was just thinking the exact same thing. some of us still believe in science and have hope in it. this is great news. doctor, thank you.th >> thank you, tucker. i agree. >> tucker: our monuments are coming down, being defaced, destroyed across the country. nancy pelosi, number three in line for the presidency, was

asked about at the a other day. she says she doesn't care. people do what people do, she says. we will tell you what that means exactly. stay here.

♪ >> tucker: those are pictures of statues being ripped down in maryland and north carolina.r: but it could have been seattle or portland or san francisco or really anywhere in this country because it is happening everywhere. the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, was asked recently about this. is she for it? here's what she said. >> i don't care that much about statues.h >> done by a commission or the city council, not a mob in the middle of the night? >> people will do what they do. >> tucker: don't care that emuch about statues. should we care that much about statues? it's a question that chris bedford has thought a lot about. he's a senior editor at "the federalist" we are happy to havt him on with us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. why should we care about statues

being toppled? >> because statues are always followed by people. every time in history, tucker, that we have seen statues takeno down, from ancient rome to france where they started with symbols like at prisons, then started attacking churches, to here in america where they started with the statue of a confederate soldier and quickly moved to some mob violence to hanging statues in the streets to pulling down our founders. revolutionaries and mobs that go after symbols of a civilization never just want to stop at a symbol. they are not just angry at a statue. they are angry at whatever it represents. h what it represents is people, a civic society, this country, they will not stop until real hi blood is spilled in a targeted way. >> tucker: i don't think nancy pelosi is an intellectual but i think she's intuitive. she's not stupid. she is certainly tough and she understands power. she must know that. >> she knows that. she knows that her power is not currently threatened by these mobs. they are going after some of

her enemies, but her power is broadly threatened because tearing down statues is all about power. almost like this entire movement has been about since you talkedd about numerous times. you have society that's willing to defend itself, to build monuments. that's a society that believes in itself. a society that stops building monuments doesn't believe in itself anymore. a society like ours led by people like pelosi who actively cheer or watch as they are torn down, that society is on a deathwatch. >> tucker: a couple in her state whom we interviewed last night are facing hate crime charges.s. whether they're convicted or not is irrelevant once you been charged with a hate crime, your life is over, as you know. for trying to return their street to blacktop because vandals put a blm symbol on it. they are facing a hate crime. it's not as though symbols don't matter to the left. they matter very, very much. how disingenuous is it to pretend they don't matter? >> nancy pelosi knows full well the history of columbus.

as an italian american. columbus was celebrated after a mass lynching of italian men by an angry mob in a race attack. that's when columbus day was a one-off holiday.. this country made a lot of progress against persecutions of italians and celebrating columbus as a person who discovered our country against great odds, the son of a weaver, as ronald reagan pointed out when he dedicated the statue in 1980. she knows that and she still discarded it. it's called a hate crime, defending your street against vandals? tearing down of a symbol that was put up against hate, that's somehow okay? people do what people do. >> tucker: why aren't our leaders more tuned into this, and why aren't they more concerned about what follows the toppling of these statues? >> i think they are just praying that the mob goes past them. i think they are afraid. a lot of them in washington, d.c., who live in my neighborhood, when they came to our neighborhood to tearhb down the statue of lincoln, people hid in their homes. people were upset. a couple neighbors came out but that's where congress and

senators live, a lot of them. or they live behind walled-in places. just like we saw in seattle when the mayor said going to her house, that was over the line, or going to the u.s. capitol puts state workers at risk. she wanted to hold the mob p for that but physically attacking police officers, shooting people in the streets and trying to lynch business owners, she felt protective from that. it was distant. they are just praying that they will be last. the mob generally comes for everyone in the end. >> tucker: it does but unfortunately it starts with the weak and that means ordinary people and i'm not wishing for itthe harassment or injury of anybody obviously on either side. i mean that. i hate violence. on the other hand, people are going to be inconvenienced, you'd hope it would be our leaders because maybe they would wake up a little bit. >>ouy as you pointed out, it'se of the only revolutions we've ever seen where the most powerful people in our society, gobank of america giving a billn dollars to this, targeting the weakest, most vulnerable, going

after them for hate crimes. just like when we saw italians defending the columbus statue in philadelphia. the mayor brought the full force of the law down on them.ou feigned lynchings and actual hangings from nooses of the statue we saw down in the south and people being attacked, reporters being attacked, people we know being attacked, that's okay? those are leaders that are afraid. >> tucker: a lot of people we know are being attacked. chris bedford, thanks so much for that perspective. appreciate it. the question is, because it's friday, should you go to melrose, massachusetts, this weekend? that all depends on who you are. the leaders in melrose have sent a very clear message: we may not care about you at all. we will tell you what that means. (gong rings) - this is joe. (combative yelling) he used to have bad breath. now, he uses a capful of therabreath fresh breath oral rinse to keep his breath smelling great, all day long. (combative yelling) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores.

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read, that makes sense. like most places in this country, melrose is a thoroughly multiracial town. all kinds of people live there. most of them get along with each other because most americans get along with each other through ththe city telling its citizens, we care about all of you. good for them. but apparently no one has warned the mayor of melrose, the mayor is a man called paul brought her. outraged by the idea that melrose would care about everyone. in melrose, he insisted, some lives matter, everyone else can drop dead. d immediately issued an apology for the existence of the signed an investigation and how it got there. the police department launched an investigation. he is not going to pretend he does. melrose's is just that kind of town. check to see if you're on the approved care list before you visit, otherwise you can be certain they will guarantee your safety in melrose because they just don't care. meanwhile in california, the

governor gavin newsom is preparing to release another 8,000 prisoners this summer. they've done a lot of that. they are doing more. he says it's to prevent the spread of coronavirus. many local jurisdictions in the state have a ready empty there holding cells. crime rates have sorted nationally. los angeles has released more than 2,000 inmates in march, in may the l.a. county sheriff said that they were trying to deliberately infect themselves with coronavirus. they want early release, they aren't stupid. but none of that matters in california be described as a matter to those who run it, that's why the state has stopped massive laws. they've seen arise and organize shoplifting rings. theft, crimes, of course they have. if you let all these inmateshe out, will they infect everyone else question mike of coursel. they will. but nobody seems to care. who is benefiting from this? the people who run boise, idaho.

they are laughing as everyone with a motoron vehicle in the state of california loads in with their possessions and moves to boise. boise, this is for you! that's it for us. have the best we can. we'll be back monday at eight. see you then. >> jason: this is a fox news alert. it's official.s president trump just commuted roger stone's lengthy prison sentence. the white house is calling stone a victim of the russian hoax. now the 67-year-old political operative will not face time behind bars. we'll have more on this developing story throughout the show. welcome to this special edition of "hannity." i am jason chaffetz in tonight for sean. we are 116 days away from election and joe biden has just been accused of plagiarism yet again. this time by the president of the united states. watch.