>> president trump is now defending his decision to commute friend roger stone. that roger stone was targeted and it was other the side, biden and obama that spied on my campaign and got caught. i'm leland vittert, we made it a practice--

we kind of expected that. gillian: i've made it a practice not it. this comes a day before roger stone was set to report to prison. now several democrats and at least one senate republican says the move was politically motivated. mark joins us from the white house. >> gillian, i've come to expect a busy saturday. president trump says that he believes that roger stone was unfairly targeted by prosecutors and commuting the sentence days before roger stone was is et set to go to prison. he he's convicted on witness tampering and lying to congress. and the white house released a statement roger stone was treated unfairly as were many others in this case. roger stone is now a free man.

this decision drawing immediate bipartisan outrage on capitol hill. >> that the president cannot issue a pardon if the crime that is the person is in jail for is one caused by protecting the president, which this was, it's appalling, appalling. >> utah republican senator mitt romney weighing in saying unprecedented historic corruption. an american president commutes a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president. we'll continue to watch the fallout from this. the president is kind of changing his schedule a little bit this weekend. he was supposed to hold a campaign rally up know portsmouth, new hampshire. that was scrubbed. the campaign says it's because of bad weather, the storm in that region, but i checked the weather right now. and while in an interview with

telemu telemundo. >> i'm going to do a big executive order, the power to do it as president and i'm going to make daca a part of it. we'll put it in and we're probably then going to be taking it out. we're working out the legal complexities right now. >> there's still a lot that we're trying to figure out, this executive order sounds like it's in the work. the timing is interesting, we're after all, gillian, 150 days away from the general election, back town. gillian: also confusing mark because the president referred to it at dinner times during that telemundo interview, a bill, which means legislation, and an executive order. waiting for clarity on that from the white house. leland: let's see if we can get clarity on the upcoming executive order or a bill. the co-chair, ma'am, thank you

for being with us. just to break down the sentence in the report from mark meredith. i'm going to do an executive order, make daca a part of it and putting it in and probably taking it out and in another one, daca is going to be just fine. what are the 800,000 or so daca recipients supposed to think off of that? >> i think what the president says is his intention to address this issue. as you know, for far too long, congress failed to act. i think what the president was saying and we hope to see in the next several weeks when he unveils his executive order is first and foremost reform on immigration that will continue to protect american workers. border security, and then of course, daca, so i think we'll see a lot of-- >> so the executive order and a piece of legislation are two totally different things. the president doesn't have a way to create a path to citizenship through an

executive order. that takes legislation. do we expect there's going to be some kind of an attempt before the election to put an immigration bill on the table? >> well, i think what the president says is that he's going to address daca, perhaps through that executive order and i think what he would like to see and what he's prepared to do and has been prepared to do over the course of the past three and a half years is to address this in a bipartisan way for congress to finally do their job. >> i'm confused though, when you say he's going to address daca through executive order, other than trying to end run again and repeal the obama era executive order, what would he do? >> i think we'll wait and see what comes out in the next couple of weeks, but i do believe his intention and his commitment to address this issue once and for all. leland: let's try this a different way. how difficult will it be for him in 2020 come november with

hispanics if daca is not fixed? >> well, i think that the premise that you're presenting is one that the hispanic voting block only cares about immigration-- >> i didn't say that, i simply asked if that would be an issue, we can universally agree that with the hispanic voting block-- >> the-- and the economic success that we've had with this president. leland: let's get to daca. if daca is not fixed, does it hurt him with hispanics in 2020? >> i think you'll obviously have to see what the president does. if daca isn't fixed that is one issue and voters will have that make up their mind. obviously, he has a commitment to fix daca and what we've seen is democrats stonewall along the way. there's arabs, economic issues, his stance on venezuela and cuba and fighting for freedom

that are things that are important to hispanics. leland: you bring up a number of issues that are important in florida especially. cuba being a huge issue. the economy being a huge issue. a lot of florida depends on tourism in their economy, i don't need to tell you that. disney world is reopening, but the orlando economy where i used to live is decimated. same with naples and fort myers. miami has had curfews as of late and the president is down five points to joe biden in the latest poll averages in florida. what needs to happen for florida's economy to turn around? >> well, you've seen under the leadership of governor desantis is a concerted effort to address the pandemic, but also address the economic crisis that we've seen. you've pointed out clearly the tourism as part of our economy is key. we're seeing things start to open back up, but i do believe that we'll see in the next quarter, florida's economy rebound as well as the national--

>> we've also seen the number of coronavirus cases in florida explode and hospitalizations as well now that the governor finally decide today release the numbers there. do you worry that this could get out of control and you're going to have an intersection of the explosion of coronavirus cases, deaths in nursing homes in florida in november? >> no, because the governor has taken decisive action early on to protect the most vulnerable and being the elderly and those in nursing homes. so what we've seen is yes, an increase in cases in florida and across the sun belt, but it doesn't come with a proportionate increase in fatalities. if you see our fatality rate we've been able to manage that and clearly we'll continue to work hard to protect floridians. >> some reporting right now coming out in the past couple of days, nursing home rates on the virus are going up and we'll get into that with different doctors later in the show. madam lt. governor, we appreciate the time and enjoy the rest of the weekend. >> thank you, you as well. leland: great having you. chris wallace is going to talk

to education secretary betsy devos tomorrow on fox news sunday. a big issue around the country whether or not schools are going to be able to reopen in the fall. the president has spoken about this lately. devos will talk about that, check your local listings for time and channel and howard kurtz will break down the coverage of roger stone's commutation the panel. media buzz is tomorrow. ♪ >> 21 states are now either pausing, reversing or delaying their reopening plans as the coronavirus continues to wage war on americans nationwide. cristina coleman hags the has the very latest numbers, break it down for us. >> there's good news here. new york once the epicenter of the virus, operate sayingses for covid-19 has dropped below 800 for the first time since mid march. the sftate is reporting the three-day average is seven.

the lowest since march 16th. despite a recent surge, the daily number of deaths from this disease on average in the u.s. is significantly lower than its peak this year. however, the number of daily deaths reported has increased in some of the hardest hit states for the virus right now, including florida and texas. in texas 95 deaths were reported friday as this was one of the deadliest weeks for people with covid-19 in the lonestar state. yesterday the governor extended a disaster order because of the surge in covid-19 cases. getting kids back in school is a major work in process. as of now schools in texas are set to open the schools in the fall. here is the texas governor how to do this safely. >> wide we'd like to give flexibility, most of our schools go back somewhere around mid to late august.

they have the option to slide that back a week or two. we'll give some elasticity to the school districts, we want to make sure our schools and parents come back safe in the environment. >> in florida more than 10,300 coronavirus cases were overnight making it one of the highest, and 120 deaths, the highest since may and this comes as experts worry that test availability and turn around testing is inefficient in some areas, gillian. gillian: christina coleman live from los angeles. thank you. joining us now are two lawmakers on the front lines at the state level, we're joined by illinois state start, and connecticut senator matthew lesser, vice chair of the

state's public health committee. thank you for your time this afternoon. we appreciate having you here. dan, i'm going to you first. you say the big problem is that the governor pritzker in illinois where you are, but governors nationwide are-- make sure i quote you correctly, shutting their states down without any oversight including without any accountability to anyone. let's talk about illinois first. where is the state legislature? >> well, the state legislature is frankly not involved at all. for the last four months governor pritzker has issued these continuous emergency proclamations. he has essentially ruled by fiat. the equal branch of government has no input into the rules and things he's set up. am soft rules he's come up with has simply not made sense. right now we're in phase four, casinos can operate at 50% capacity, but museums it conditional operate at 25%. zoos, outdoor zoos, 25%

capacity. outdoor viewing of sports, 20% capacity. and the problem is, is that you have people out there looking at the rules, seeing what they can and can't do, it doesn't make sense to them or their neighbors and they toss the baby out with the bath water and essentially ignoring the good ideas. i think that's part of the reason why we've seen an uptick in our positive covid cases lately because people aren't taking the declarations that governor pritzker has put down seriously anymore. leland: well, maybe people are not taking them seriously or maybe people are trying to take them seriously, but they're confused because the rules and the goal posts are changing in different parts of the state. matthew, if we look at connecticut, outsiders view there, rules are pretty straight forward. no one can do anything or go anywhere, but at the same time, you guys are doing really well when it comes to flat lining your cases. you have, i think, it was 1% transmission rate just under 1

is%, actually, that's below pretty much every other state. >> yes, and thank you, galien, that's absolutely right. connecticut was hit early and hit hard and more connecticut residents have died than all the americans who were killed on 9/11. we're really devastated, but we came together as a state and we didn't play politics as senator from illinois is seeming to do, but we put science first. i can tell you yesterday for the third time this week, not one person died in connecticut. if we take this disease seriously, if we listen to the science, if we put on masks, if we do adequate testing, if we don't play games and we be careful in indoor spaces, we can beat this disease, but we've got to do it all 50 states. we can't left anyone left behind. we've got to make sure we're taking care of one another in this country. gillian: dan, is that trade-off worth it to you. if public health officials you shut down the state and don't

allow other folks to come into the state of illinois, but you won't have any deaths, would you go for it? >> so what i think needs to happen is that, you know, democracy works best when you have a diversity of opinions around the governing table and that's precisely what we don't have. here in illinois and many other states we have governors ruling by fiat in a manner that doesn't make sense from a public health perspective at times. this is something that if we had full buy-in, right, if we had other elected officials sitting around the table with the governor, these are co-equal branches of government, sitting down and coming up with a plan that makes sense to everybody, you're going to have much greater buy-in on behalf of the public and the public is going to turn around and behave in a manner that's ultimately safer because of the buy-in across government, across the board. that's something we simply aren't had here and in too many

other places. gillian: gentlemen, we've got to leave it there. thank you, dan, and matt, talking about your states. we appreciate it. >> glad to be with you again. leland: police seize add rifle from a st. louis couple that went viral last month after video emerged of them taking up arms to defend their home from protesters. arab arab arabia nasney. >>. >> according to reports from the ground in st. louis, mark and patricia were at home at 8:00 last night and they seized the rifle that mark is pictured holding. as for pistol patricia was holding, the couple claim that was originally in the possession you have their attorney. they took arms at home after the protesters were marching

into their gated neighborhood. the protesters claim they were on the way to demonstrate outside of the mayor's house, but the couple told fox news, some. protesters said they're going to kill us and burn down the house. last month, the district attorney office said they would not tolerate the use of force against people exercising their first amendment rights. the missouri attorney general says that the couple did not break any laws, but it's unclear what might happen to them. >> under missouri law, under the castle doctrine, an individual has really expansive authority to protect their own lives, their home, and their property. and i think the story here to watch here is the local prosecutor, kim gardner. kim gardner has an abysmal record in prosecuting violent cri crime. >> now, the couple tells fox news, the protesters returned again the following week, but

this time, ned already hired private security to protect their home. the couple's new attorney now says he's hopeful, hoping to have a meeting with kim gardner, the prosecutor there in st. louis, sometime next week and we'll follow up and see what happens next, leland. >> the attorney general seemed a little confused by kim gardner's move in terms. search warrant and possible charges that could be headed to the couple's way. aishah hasnie, thank you so much. >> cinderella's castle has a fresh coat of paint to go to green. the disney visitors wearing masks and phil keating is covering the reopening of the park. phil. >> it's been 118 long days since the public and all of those disney fanatics have been able to go inside the magic kingdom, well, today, mickey and minnie are back. the park is back open, but there are a lot of new rules that will be strictly enforced.

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into new england. we're going to head out, and rick reichmuth has the forecast as we can see fay behind you. >> i'm glad you said beach. one thing we'll deal with a rip currents, so if you're at any of the beaches be careful, it's dangerous with the rip currents. fay came on shore yesterday, 50 mile per hour storm just to the north of atlantic city and pulled up right now across parts of the hudson river valley and is very quickly now pulling off towards the north. you can see that moisture there. it's across parts of new england, and that's the most moisture that we're dealing with from what was fay. that right there was circulation and a lot of it headed toward canada. behind that, kind of a system that pulled this storm north, a system that was bringing significant lane across parts of far western new york. we'll watch that careful. i'll tell you we're in hurricane season and we expect

on an average here around 12 named storms. we're already six named storms in and none of them hurricanes, fortunately, but six tropical storms that got names. we are an expecting an average year this year. take a look where we are, we're just getting going in our hurricane season here and the bulk of the activity happens really from around stay the second week of august through the second week of october and here we are already six named storms in. so, that doesn't bode very well for us. everybody needs to be prepping for the hurricane season that we're going to deal with. the one other story, leland, we are going to talk about this i think for the next couple of weeks, is a significant heatwave that's going to build in across parts of the south. really hot this weekend across the desert southwest, but take a look at temperatures across much of texas. these are actual air temperatures and factor in the humidity with in and it gets a little bit worse. we're talking about temps there that are feeling over 110 and

pushing 120 and stays with us for a week or so and have life threatening impacts for people over time, that heat begins to have a cumulative effect and cause problems for folks. i wanted to bring attention to that,well, leland. leland: you think about the ranchers in west texas who have had a hard time with coronavirus and droughts and low meat prices. rick, appreciate it. >> you bet. kristin: well, disney world. gillian: well, disney world is opening its doors after nearly four months. not everything is looking the same. some major changes are going on and have already been made so far during the coronavirus pandemic. phil keating is in orlando to take a look at the park as it reopens, phil. >> walt disney world closed in mid march. april, may, june, now we're in mid july. nearly four months. that's the longest stretch the

magic kingdom has ever been closed to the public. the public is back today and inside the happiest place on earth, they're finding it to be entirely different than ever before. this is the time of corona. no one gets inside without a temperature check. face coverings is mandatory for everyone inside animal kingdom and guest employees or else you'll get kicked out. tuesday and wednesday, park runs dressed up as characters on stages now, no longer on the ground close to people and there won't be any touching of each otherment no more photos hugging mickey and minnie mouse. fewer people on rides, empty scenes between them and keep social spacing and plenty of glass partitions to reduce the virus spread. annual pass park holders were

there on thursday and one woman from chicago tells she felt comfortably. >> the rides were spaced safely. and no one was really taking their masks off in any of the lines. >> and of course, there are hand sanitizer stations all over the parks. disney which has lost about a billion dollars globally in revenue over the past four months would typically have about 200,000 guests inside their parks on any given summer day. crowds will now be about half of that. the upside the lines for the rides will be a lot shorter. that's why anybody wanting to come in will have to have a ticket and reservationreservati disney's goal is to make the happiest place the safest place. as you know, florida is surging on coronavirus cases. today's number 10,300, the third highest so far. yesterday was 11,400, the second highest total so far so everything really is on the

line for disney and its reopening plan during these times. epcott and hollywood studios open next wednesday. disneyland in anaheim, california still has not set a target date to reopen. back to you. gillian: well, governor ron desantis is going to give a press briefing shortly and cover the coronavirus case numbers. we'll bring that to you as it happens. phil keating live in orlando. thank you. >> thank you. leland: the boycott, goya foods is picking up on something the ceo said this week. how he's responding to cancel culture when we come back. i ds and i don't add up the years, but what i do count on... is boost high protein... and now, there's boost mobility... ...with key nutrients to help support... joints, muscles, and bones. try boost mobility, with added collagen. are you currently using a whitening toothpaste,

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>> a cancel culture has extended to goya foods. the america's largest hispanic food products.

it's subject to boycott from hispanics, goya way on twitter. look for yourself. >> we pray for our leadership, our president, and we pray for our country that we will continue to prosper and to grow. >> bob came to the rose garden to give away millions of dollars worth of food from his third generation family company. but his good deed turned into a nightmare when he praised the president. >> we're all truly blessed at the same time to have a leader like president trump who is a builder. >> and the boycott was on. former presidential candidate julian castro tweeting that bob is praising a president who villainize villainizes latinos for pril gain. and should say goya way. and it's the sign of me making may own product.

a shame, model chrissy teigen wrote, don't care how good the beans taste, bye-bye. >> goya continues to work for the prosperity and education of our country, they responded. gives two million pounds of food to food banks for families impact by covid-19. he says there's a double standard. no one cared when he answered the call for michelle obama to help with healthy meals program. >> i'm not apologizing for-- if you answer the call for the president, i didn't say that to the obamas and i didn't say that to president trump. leland: and tony, from his pantry behind him, a noted goya enthusiast and learn something knew about you every day. >> i try, my friends, i try.

you've got to have unbelievable respect for the ceo here. the way you defeat cancel culture and not bow down. to hear julian castro, we need to look the other way. no, the only one we looked the other way on is you, for president. and he stands up and he's part of the white house prosperity initiative and he's looking to do good. 's doing it and shouldn't be canceled for that. it's a vicious attack, but far worse than what cancel culture wants you to be it is. leland: it's interesting though, because he's putting his money where his mouth is literally. not only giving away two million dollars worth of food to food pantry to help low income folks who couldn't put food on the table, but he's got a family business here. he's got 4,000 employees all of whom are affected if cancel boycott goya becomes a real issue. >> yeah, and it's not. the buy goya campaign is going

to be much, much larger. you take a look at people like ly lin-manuel miranda upset with him. and you take a look at the usc fighter who says we're not going to pay attention to the woke mob and links to a story in 2018 how goya gave a million pounds of food to people after hurricane maria. the biggest story here is about representative alexandria ocasio-cortez, what her cancel culture is about is control of thought. if you have a certain characteristic like hispanic, you have to think a certain way and she goes after anybody who doesn't fall in line. i dare her to go after jorge. he's allowed to stand up and have an opinion and his business should never be destroyed before it. leland: your intellectual honesty, i'm going to point

out, is respectable in this matter. we were talking just a couple of days ago, you called me about deshon jackson who had some, shall we say, questionable and anti-semitic things to say. we can leave any other adjectives aside. but now he has come out and apologized for it. here is his apology, take a listen. >> i just want to, you know, first off extend apology on behalf of me, and what i stand for because, you know, i'm-- i never want to put any race down or any people down. leland: far from a full-throated repudiation of adolf hitler or of louis farakkhan, but the eagles say he has been penalized in their words, wouldn't say what the penalty was, for his post and feel as though they can put this behind them. is this the way it's supposed to work when you say something that's offensive? >> well, i will tell you as i did then, i do now and i've

written about it i oppose cancel culture. if you oppose it you have to actually oppose it. i did not want deshon jackson to be fired. i want to know why so many people were silent and anti-semitism was acceptable all of this hatred is the acceptable hatred and check out the people, whether it's steven jackson, shannon sharpe okay with louis farakkhan. louis farakkhan is a bigot, and people who won't condemn him like carson they need to be repudiated as well. and they don't get-- we should note it and talk about it. leland: let's quickly compare and contrast though in terms of drew brees and deshon jackson. >> yeah. so drew brees was allowed to

have an opinion and others say you're take ago knee this way and this is how we see it. demanding that he apologize, he gave millions to the state of louisiana during the coronavirus. he's been an upstanding citizen and conversation is worthwhile those people were wrong to be so vicious toward drew brees and when they say silent toward deshon jackson or silent on i don't know, hong kong, it speaks volumes. i think we should be the people who speak very clearly. leland: and you speak very clearly just about every day on the radio, i've been honored honored to join you a couple of times. check him on indianapolis i think 93.1, if not on the interweb worldwide. good to see you, tony. >> good to see you.

. gillian: the great mask debate raging on this weekend. more states than ever before are now demanding their residents cover their faces, even when they're outdoors. but many americans still questioning whether this is the most effective antidote to the coronavirus. alicia acuna is here. >> hi, gillian. experts are say carrying around face masks are similar to carrying around your phone, it's something we'll have to get use toment and we've seen how divisive the rules around them can be, but there are signs of a possible changing culture now with bipartisan pushes to wear face masks. >> if you're somehow waiting to wear a mask until the governor tells you to, i hope you've heard i'm telling you to. if i haven't abouten clear, i'm telling you to wear a mask. wear a damn mask. >> and we're wearing masks and socially distancing and we've been payable to work safely and

i'm confident everyone else can do the same thing. it's not asking too much. >> the c.d.c. recommends masks in public to slow the spread of coronavirus and a growing number of municipalities are requiring them. bloomberg reports even if you're resistant to covering your nose and mouth your wallet might think. u.s. growth would be faster if all americans wore masks. goldman sachs sacks group, inc. estimates a national mask mandate to prevent the u.s. from losing almost 5% of its gross domestic product. no doubt there is boiling frustration with some folks who don't want to wear one and on the flip side those who get enraged by someone refusing to. we talked to a mental health expert about this and he says it's going to be imperfect. we all need to cut each other a break. >> if you find yourself getting really angry because somebody

is or is not wearing a mask or not doing something you think they should do stop for a second and try to think of three other explanations for their behavior other than they're doing it for personal belief. >> i know i'm doing a story on the importance of wearing masks according to the c.d.c. i'm not wearing them, but i'm a good safe distance from my photographer. gillian. gillian: thank you for relaying it out there. alicia, we appreciate it, leland. leland: a deadly shark attack in australia. how it all went down when we come back. place that you laughed about

well the names have all changed since you hung around but those dreams have remained and they've turned around who'd have thought they'd lead ya back here where we need ya welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you. >> well, senior military officials put in an appearance on capitol hill about an

intelligence report that alleges russia put bounties on u.s. troops serving in afghanistan. >> congressman to the best of my recollection i have not received a briefing that included the word bounty. this is a unique piece of information that's thot corroborated. >> i'm going to get to the bottom of it, if it's true we'll g we'll to. >> the member of house committee andy kim. congressman you came out of that briefing this week. you heard from general milley and secretary esper and you didn't get the information you needed and really raised more questions than it provided answers? >> that's right. first and foremost we need to focus on the safety of our service members in afghanistan. i worked out there as a

civilian advisor nine years ago in afghanistan and worked at the white house before on counterterrorism issues. this is something that's deeply alarming and the briefing that i received as well as the intelligence documents that i reviewed raised far more questions about the state of the threat against our forces. gillian: congressman, if you take the bounty intelligence out of the equation, because both you, some of your democratic colleagues and the white house are all saying that specific intelligence, that russia placed a bounty on u.s. service members, is still up for grabs. it's not at all 100% certain, then what we're left with, left with out of the story is the news that russia's providing military support to afghanistan. is that really such earth shattering news? >> so so much of the attention has been placed on whether or not russian payments went to taliban or militants to target

u.s. personnel and that was the focal point of a lot of the briefing, but when i went to the secure room at the capitol, read the written intelligence written by our intelligence community, what i found deeply alarming was the consensus across the board that there was actually russian support to the taliban that was being-- that was being targeted towards the united states. and i do think that that is significant. having worked on these issues before-- >> sir, that is absolutely significant and russia poses a grave national security threat to the united states. but the point being this is not something nobody has heard of before, right? >> the level in which i saw in the documents about this was something that i thought was escalatory, having worked on these types of issues before what i saw was something that we should not be willing to just accept. and i find that to be frustrating, na we are accepting a level of threats

against our soldiers and our service members that should be unacceptab unacceptable. gillian: so only a few seconds left, congressman. what, in your view, then, is the most appropriate response from the trump administration to the fact that russia is providing support to the taliban essentially? >> well, we need to have a whole government approach here. this needs to be raised in diplomatic channels. we need to make sure that our military is engaging with their counterparts and drawing a clear line that it is not acceptable for any nation, russia or any nation to target our u.s. soldiers and service members abroad. that needs to be a clear red line and that's something that we need to make sure is crystal clear to those that seek harm to our nation. gillian: military action or no military action? >> that depends on the actions -- that depends on the level of

threat that's out there. that's something where we need to find additional information, get the intelligence, be able to dig in deeper on this and i want to make sure that our administration is laser focused on it. gillian: congressman, sorry to jump in. we're up against a hard break. we'll bring you back. thanks so much. balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. me too. me too. and if you're a small business, we're with you. standing by you every step of the way. bye bye.

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>> a fox news alert on the day disney world reopened. florida governor ron desantis talking about his state's coronavirus response. he's been both praised and criticized for how he's handled the virus. let's listen in for a minute. >> when we talk to people around the state particularly with the hospital system. a lot of it is making sure there's enough personnel to do this. covid is very labor intensive, there's a lot of procedure in terms of isolation. obviously, they have a lot of personnel involved in testing people. those who come into their hospitals and people who are participating in some of these drive-through or walk-up test sites. the personnel is very, very significant. so we're doing a lot of that to be able to help. so if you look at kind of where we've been now with this testing, you know, when we first started out, that the tests were very scarce nationwide. i think that florida probably

had more test results in one day yesterday than probably the country did as a whole in the beginning part of march. we had about 10.8% positivity rate at the end of march, beginning of may. that kind of went down and then we really had, you know, a good stretch from kind of the end of april through that june 13th where we were 5.1% or under, sometimes we were, you know, 2, 3% in terms of the positivity. so, as the cases expanded-- or excuse me, as the testing expanded the positivity was manageable. so, yes, you had more cases, but that was kind of what you'd expect. you know, if you test 200,000 people at a 3% rate you're going to get more cases than if you test 100,000 people. and then as you see, when woo started to see more cases, yes, we started-- we've been testing more the last three weeks by far than we have before, but you see, you

see the -- that 6-14 to 6-20, the positivity up to 9.6% and then the next week in june, 12%. and then we were 14.8% for the last part of june, beginning of july. this week so far it's ticked down a little bit. last two days i think have been in about 12.5%. if you look around the state, there are definitely areas where you think-- we think we may be seeing some declining positivity. then there are other areas that have been pretty consistently 20% range, like miami-dade. here in manatee, they've been about 10% the last two days and the majority of their new cases have been under the age of 45. sarasota is reporting today 5.2% of the tests positive. yesterday was 9.5%. and i think some of the folks here will attest that you know, we may be seeing some decline

in this part of the tampa bay area. some of the other areas, particularly north places like pasco, you know, you may be seeing more positivity, but this is something that we're looking at very seriously, so we're going to get the test results to complete the week. we're going to be over 400,000 tests easily for the week. so that's a huge, huge amount of tests and a lot of it is this positivity rate. you know, there's obviously going to be some prevalence, but as it gets into the single digits, that's something that's much more manageable. so we increased from the end of june into july, but then, it kind of-- it's been plateaued for the last two weeks, which is, it's a good sign. we'd rather be plateaued at 4%, but we didn't want to see it continue to go up and up. tested 2.4 million people and that's one for every nine people in the state of florida. so, it will be interesting to see what other things have been

tested at this level, you know, in our country in modern times, but this is something that, as a whole, the country has done a lot of tests. obviously, florida, we were doing a lot particularly in the last, however, however many weeks when the demand has really been high. if you look at where the cases are coming from, a lot of the cases are in that, between 15 and 54, which as you can see, you know, those are not the age groups that are producing significant fatalities. in fact, if you're under 55, and you don't have significant and you don't have significant 75 and plus, 85 and plus, this is where the bulk of the case fatalities are in terms of those who are positive cases and a lot of that's nursing homes. i'll talk about some of that in a minute. we really believe that those in that 65 and up age group are at

the increased risk and we're continuing to advise them to limit close contact outside the home and to avoid crowds as much as possible. but this is a pretty dramatic i think picture showing how the virus operates and who tends to bear the brunt when they get infected and that 25 to 34, if we were going back six weeks, it would not have been anything special on this map in terms of how many tests. they had been positive tests there for sure but that's been a real dramatic increase in terms of the number of positive cases in that age group and if you look, i mean, far and away now they're the number one age cohort, 25 to 34-year-olds. if you look to see each individual age, how many there. 21 is still the number one age that has the most cases. obviously, 21, absent a

significant co-more o co-morbids likely to be an asymptomatic or mild illness. when we look at these case, i know a lot of people like to talk and it gets reported but when cases are reported to the state, that's a positive test that could have been taken seven days ago, eight days ago. there's all these companies that do it. they report it. when that infection occurred is not even clear. some of these infections may have occurred two weeks ago when a test finally gets reported to a state from a private lab. so one of the things that you look at is, okay, i can get a certain amount of test results reported today and then next week and there's all kind of ways you can look at that and all kind of way that's the data may not always come in and kind of coherent fashion. when you look at ed visits for people showing up to the ed, because they have either influenza-like or covid-like

illnesses, that is just evidence of what's going on and the more people that are doing that, the more prevelance that you have. if you look at what we've seen over the last few weeks, throughout the month of may, you know, it was very flat. i mean, state-wide, we were under 500 visits a day which for a state of 21.5 million people is a small number of visits. influenza-like illness, 250 or of below. pretty much for weeks and weeks. and then as we got into june it was still very low. you start to see it inch up as we get into that third week of june when we get into the 6-14, it goes up. you start to see more visits. and then the following week it escalates more. at the end of june, it escalated to where we were seeing more than 2,000 ed visits a day for covid-like illness. going to the ed doesn't mean you're admitted to the hospital. it means you're showing up and if you're symptomatic a lot of times they're testing you. we have seen state-wide this

start to trend downward but, you know, you look at a couple days and sometimes that can be more noise and signal. so we want to continue to look at that. i think they'll talk about here the ed visits have skewed younger and kind of that 35-year-old range, which obviously is a different kind of clinical cohort than the 65 and up. but the syndromeatic surveillance, that's instructive of what's going on in the state of florida. protecting the vulnerable, you see the fatalities skew 65 and plus and 75 and plus when you think about it. that's something that's a priority. given that you see more prevelance of this in the community today than we did, say, in the middle of may, it is important for those in the at-risk groups to avoid crowds and minimize the close contact

with people who they don't live with. now, of course, if you're in a multigenerational living arrangement, there's definitely risk with that and we've seen that in different parts of florida where you have some of the multigenerational housing, a lot of crowded housing leads to more outbreaks. but obviously there's only so much that you can do when those are your living arrangements and we understand that. but there is the risk in the 65 and up category and then underlying conditions, obviously if you're 65 and up, even elevated risk. so really any age that has some of these conditions, you need to take similar steps and avoid the crowds, minimize close contact outside the home. one of the things when you have folks who of are under 65 or really under 50, the ones that have things like diabetes, morbid obesity, those are the one that's typically have a much harder time with the coronavirus. and so just understand that and take whatever precautions that you can.

we talked before coming out here about long-term care facilities, which is really a really significant component of this. when we started this in march, we obviously knew that the nursing homes were going to be ground zero because you have the most vulnerable population there. so we did things like we prohibited visitors. you could have visitors in -- you didn't have visitors in nursing homes since the middle of march. that's a tough thing for a lot of people. we feared we would see more introduction of the virus if you allowed that. we also prohibited hospitals from discharging covid-positive patients back into the nursing homes. i think that was done in other states. that really had negative consequences and we felt that was the better course of action. we required ppe, like n95 masks. we sent 1 10 million masks pluso long-term care facilities, face shields, gowns, gloves, all that and so we required them to use

the ppe but we provided the ppe because we understood that was important to try to minimize spread within those facilities. but we also understood, as we started to get into april, that, you know, even with doing all those precautions, i mean, you would still have it get in with the staff member, maybe not wearing the ppe right, maybe the ppe wasn't as effective as we wanted it to be. you would see cases there. we sent the national guard to do a lot of testing in the nursing homes because we understood that we needed to identify cases before they could spread like wildfire. so we understood that there was a need for some of these folks who if you do test positive and you're a resident of a long-term care facility, that you had to be isolated appropriately so that you didn't spread it to other residents. and some of these nursing homes, long-term care facilities, they're just not set up to do appropriate isolation and so we said -- leland: governor ron de santis

talking about his state's response to the coronavirus. talking about increased testing, increased case numbers and hoping that the positivity rate has plateaued as they're talking about getting additional shipments of the drug remdesivir into that state, reports that icu numbers in florida are increasing on the day that disney world reopens. we'll go down to disney later in the hour. ♪ leland: back here in washington, reaction pouring in as lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are sounding off, you might say, on the president's decision to commute roger stone's prison sentence. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. i'm leland vittert. gillian, like to be with you. unusual that the commutation came before the end of all of roger stone's appeals, one of the unusual things about this. gillian: one of the unusual

things. it also comes just a couple days before the president's long-time advisor was slated to head to prison. so getting in just under the wire there. normally presidents will wait until later in their terms, historically, before they start commuting or pardoning folks. so unusual for that reason too. great to be with you, leland. great to be with everybody at home. i'm gillian turner. but now, we're going to go to mark meredith, he's at 1600 pennsylvania avenue with the latest reaction from top staff there. mark. >> reporter: president trump has long said he felt that roger stone was unfairly targeted in the russia probe. and as you talked about, he issued a commutation before stone was set to go to jail. stoninstone was convicted on sen counts. he was expected to serve more than three years behind bars. that obviously won't be happening. the president decided to tweet about this this morning. he says roger stone was targeted

by an illegal witch hunt that should never have taken place. it's the other side that are criminals including the fact that biden and obama illegally spied on my campaign and got caught. the president has hinted that he could intervene in this case. roger stone, he's speaking out and said he heard from the president directly late friday. >> he said that he had thought about it. he had followed my case throughout and he thought that i had been treated unfairly. >> reporter: the decision to intervene is drawing bipartisan outrage. his rival, joe biden, accusing the president of corruption in issuing the commutation. he said he abused his power, releasing the commutation on a friday night, hoping to avoid scrutiny as he lays waste to the norms and values that make our country a shining beacon for the rest of the world. we're hearing from mitt romney who says the unprecedent historic corruption, an american

president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield the president. we've heard from nancy pelosi and adam schiff, both outraged by the move. we'll let you know if the president has more to say about that later on this afternoon. gillian: mark, thank you. leland. leland: we bring in presidential scholar, senior fellow at kings college, mark smith, who served on president trump's transition team. good to see you, appreciate it, counsel or. counselor, you think about this, commuting the sentence of a friend on a friday night news dump, three days before he's supposed to go to prison for crimes that universally it seems that people agree he committed, doesn't this hand democrats the talking points they're using now that the president is putting his hand on the scale for friends? >> no, i don't think so. bear in mind that roger stone was going to prison in a matter of days. his appeal has not been heard.

he has very strong grounds to win that appeal and overturn his conviction for, among other reasons, questions about how the jury handled this case and whether or not there was an issue with the jury's bias. we don't know. that's for an appellate court. he was being asked -- leland: all important questions. but in terms of commuting the sentence, that's an absz lieutenant ---that's absolute. this wasn't the president putting his hand on the scale and saying we need to delay the sentence or this wasn't the justice department that was doing this. as the press secretary said, roger stonies a free man. there's no going back from that, no rehearing the appeal. >> that's not true. there's two things that the president is able to do under article two of the constitution. he can pardon someone, which means you are not a felon, essentially were never convicted or you can commute the sentence which is saying you're still a felon, still a criminal, but the penalty, but the sentence part of it we're going to do away with. here, because roger stonies 67

years of age, they were going to put him in prison for three and-a-half years when states all across america are letting thousands and thousands of felons go free because of covid and yet here we have a 67-year-old roger stone going to prison with a very strong appeal and he has been wrongly treated by the government right from the start, leland. i think if you put this into context it will help your viewers understand this. leland: we want to go the age and the covid route. michael cohen was out on furlough. he's back in jail right now. if you're talking about the issue of the appeal, which is a legitimate argument and there are serious questions about the jury and some of the decisions that were made in roger stone's case. why not tell the attorney general, as the commander in chief and as the president would be able to do, look, we're going to stay roger stone's sentence and not going to send him to jail under the bureau of prisons. there would have been a way for the justice department and prosecutors to make that motion and allow the court system to

adjudicate this, rather than the president putting his hand on the scale. i'm wondering what message you think it sends. >> leland, i think that was actually tried. i believe a motion was made by roger stone's defense team, just recently, to ask that he be allowed to report to prison not now, but in september. it's my understanding that the department of justice did not take a position on that motion. despite that, the judge decided that he should go to jail next week. and i think because of that, i think that almost forced the president's hand. i think the president acted rightly here. remember, leland, roger stone was convicted of process crimes that arose out of the russia investigation that was about showing collusion between the trump campaign and russia, which was never -- it never bore fruit. here you have a man going to prison for process crimes. leland: process crimes are crimes for a reason. a lot of democrats have gone to jail for process crimes too. it brings up an interesting question in terms of people from trump world, trump orbit who are

now coming back around, if you will. one of them might be michael flynn who the justice department is trying to dismiss the charges against and obviously there's appeals on that. this is from politico today. with flynn on the verge of potentially having criminal charges dismissed all together, trump allies are pushing the campaign to give flynn the ultimate comeback, hitting the campaign trail for the president, according to nine people inside or close to the trump campaign. good idea? >> i don't have a problem with it. bear in mind that under the constitution, the president has complete authority and the supreme court has agreed with this, complete authority to pardon and grant commutation to sentences to anybody he wants. here's what interesting -- leland: with flynn, he wouldn't have to pardon o or commute him, if the charges were dismissed. >> you can commute someone that -- you can pardon someone that

has not been charged. donald trump is doing this before november. donald trump is doing this now. if you look at the history of presidential pardons, most of the time they come after an election, with the president's no longer accountable of. here, donald trump -- i give him great credit for this. he did this in an election season where the american public can actually weigh in on the good and the bad and the ugly of these decisions which actually i think is great. let america decide if it was appropriate. i think it was but people can disagree on that. leland: that is a logic and argument that i haven't heard yet. i commend you for making it. mr. smith, we appreciate it. we're going to have to cut can you short because of ron de santis eating up a lot of time with the press conference. we appreciate you sticking around for us, sir. >> thank you, leland. leland: all the best. gillian. gillian: well, joe biden is offering up his vision for the u.s. economy in 2020. he's released his own made in america plan earlier this week. we'll break down the specifics and debate them, coming up next. the guitar intro to your favorite song.

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leland: as we a wait joe biden's vice presidential pick, president trump and some republican lawmakers are taking the presumptive democratic nominee to task over his economic plan. peter doocy digging in with that

pesky question in washington about how much it all might cost. >> reporter: republicans are starting to look beneath the big banner of the biden plan, which is to buy american, and they're taking issue with the way biden comes up with 700 billion taxpayer dollars. >> it's going to go right back to heavy regulation, high taxes, growth killing, job killing policies and the thing that i think this president, president trump has done that will be transformational for generations is taking on china and taking on unfair trade practices around the world. >> reporter: president trump has been branding his policies as america first for years. so now he's accusing biden of plaplagerizing from him. he's pointing out that this policies do lower taxes and cut regulations, which is different than biden's pitch which he took on the road this week. >> throughout this crisis, donald trump has been almost

singularly focused on the stock market, the dow and nasdaq. not you. not your families. if i'm fortunate enough to be elected president, i'll b be laser-focused on working families, the families here in scranton, not the wealthy investor class. they don't need me. the working families do. this may be -- should be, in my view, the guiding principle. >> reporter: biden does not have any public events this weekend. this strategy lately has been to make one public appearance a week and let his prepared remarks speak for themselves until next time. leland. leland: all right. peter doocy, has been there for a few of those appearances at times. appreciate it, sir. thank you. gillian. gillian: for more on this economic plan from the former vice president, we bring in

pennsylvania democratic congressman, he's also a member of the house's blue collar caucus, matt cartwright. this is clearly former vice president biden's clearest play yet for blue collar workers in the united states going -- trying to go toe to toe with president trump. >> well, nice to be back with you, gillian. and say hi to leland for me as well. i liked the last segment he did. sure, joe biden -- i'm coming to you from northeastern pennsylvania and joe biden was here this week, touting his economic plan. i like it. it's not really revolutionary. it's certainly not a departure for joe biden. he's ails been a friend of the blue collar worker. but what it's revolutionary about is we're going to go ahead and do it, we're going to go ahead and make it in america and

make that a priority. you guys talk about chinese drug manufacturers, that's a big focus of this. we need to make drugs in america. our medicines -- you know that 60% of our of medicines are made overseas. and that's a problem. chinese drug companies make such a large percentage of our drugs and so it's a problem, number one, with our independence, of course. number two, with our safety. during covid fda inspectors were not allowed to go to china to go through the chinese drug companies and make sure the pills coming out of there were safe. that's a big part of making it in america, is the safety and the independence. we have to crack down on all of these jobs and all of this money going to chinese drug companies. gillian: yeah, congressman, the supply chain issue is a real one. it's a national security issue, according to president trump and this administration as well as his critics.

there's fairly broad bipartisan consensus that we want life-saving drugs to be made in america going forward. the more controversial aspects of the biden plan are the costs, 6 trillion plus dollars over a few years, looking at $300 billion for new clean energy technologies, as well as moving the corporate tax rate back up 7% to obama-era levels. is this something that you think is going to get broad support? hard to imagine. >> well, a couple of things you mentioned there. first, you're absolutely right, there is broad bipartisan support for cracking down on the off-shoring of american dollars and american jobs to chinese drug companies. in fact, i'm a co-sponsor of five bills in the house, bills supported by -- introduced by republicans and democrats, vern buchanan out of florida, republican, buddy carter out of

georgia, republican, ann esshe out of california, alyssa slotkin, a democrat out of michigan, all of them have a slate of bills cracking down on chinese drug companies and fostering american independence and american drug safety. but as far as the expense, sure, you're going to spend money on infrastructure rebuilding. we have to do it. you know, president trump suggested $2 trillion for an infrastructure bill. peter defazio, the chair of the transportation and infrastructure committee introduced $1.5 trillion bill. we've been doing nothing but talk about this for the whole time i've been in congress. you had ron de santis on earlier. we came in together in 2012. mark meadows came in. the three of us served on the oversight committee as freshmen, starting in 2013. in fact, mark meadows this week alluded to the idea of an executive order cracking down on

chinese drug companies from president trump. i say he should go ahead and do it but he could also get behind all of these bipartisan bills in the house right now. we need to do this for our safety and our independence in this country. gillian: a lot of criticism, political criticism this week from republicans that the biden plan kind of rips off or plagerizes donal president trums plans. some of the slogans have a clear ring to them. >> well, sure. i mean, the expression i like to use once in a while, gillian, is, you know, you can achieve an awful lot if you don't care who gets the credit for it. it's a good idea. invest in american infrastructure, buy american, manufacture it in america. these are things we need to be

pushing and i don't think we ought to waste time fighting over whose idea it was in the first place. gillian: all right. well good to know that at least some democrats think that president trump's idea is on the right track, moving the country forward. congressman, we've got to leave it there. we would love to have you back. thanks so much for spending some time with us this afternoon. >> nice to be with you, gillian. take care. leland: great conversation there. now to texas where one of the first states to reopen is facing a new threat from the coronavirus. plus plunging oil prices. what that could mean for the texas economy when we come back.

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leland: texas is dealing with a surge in coronavirus cases and lawmakers there are concerned as to whether or not there could be another economic lockdown especially if some areas are already still trying to recover from the first one, as is much

of the country. with that, we bring in county commissioner, jason korlis. we appreciate you being with us. you have an economic double whammy out there. you've got the coronavirus and you've got the crash if oil prices, in oil production in west texas. i can imagine things are pretty tough right now? >> yes and no. we're kind of used to the up and down cycle of the oilfield. that's something that is part of -- just part of it in west texas. but we've got a fairly diverse economy. we also have a lot of agriculture as well. texas tech university is right there in lubbock. we have a large medical community. that kind of helps balance it out. it's not as bad as it could be, i guess i should say. leland: an optimistic way of looking at things. i'm interested, west texas has its own unique view of the world, just listen to country music, especially texas country

music as i do and you'll learn about it. but so much of the conversation about the coronavirus debate, west texas has sort of been the holdout, there were folks that didn't want to shut down, there were lawsuits over shutting down, there were a number of businesses that said they won't shut down. where are things out there right now? >> a lot of us are still holdouts. leland: when you say holdout, define that for me. >> okay. here's been the question. you know, west texas, you know, we tend to think for ourselves. we're going to stop and look at the situation and we're going to decide what do i need to do to best keep me and my family safe. what do i need to do? what's best for my business? and one size fits all answer is just not it. what's best for west texas is not going to work in dallas or san antonio or vice versa. leland: so what works in west texas that doesn't work in the rest of the state? >> west texas people.

at the beginning of this, at the beginning of the concern with the coronavirus, we didn't have a whole lot of information. so a lot of people were wearing masks just as a precaution. businesses were putting out hand sanitizer. walked into a gas station, had a hand wash station set up when you walked in the door. people were being extremely cautious, just kind of limiting the crowds, just being careful. same stuff we do during cold and flu season, only kind of on steroids. everybody was just on their own, was just being very cautious and not sure what to expect but, you know, hey let's -- better safe than sorry. leland: we know what happened in lubbock county, it's doing the curve you don't want it to do, going like this. >> right now, we tested about 50,000 people, about 45,000 of those have come back negative. our testing is going through the roof. we're testing a whole lot more people. we've got more tests available to us than what we had prior.

leland: as i'm hearing you, i feel like what sort of the argument here is west texas should be able to do what west texas wants to do and not what houston or dallas or austin is doing in terms of continuing to lock things down and close things up. this was a bar owner who was on with neil cavuto a little earlier. take a listen. >> the reason for the lawsuit is because it's arbitrary. he imposed a sanction, he said if you're a bar owner and don't do what i told you to do because i'm king abbott, you'll get a 30 day suspension and i did get one. leland: they're out of kilgore, texas. the criticism of king abbott i feel like is one that you would echo? >> i've been a pretty big supporter of governor abbott. he's done a lot of good things. my question is, who is advising him on this one. i really felt like we just scapegoated the bar owners and all the 20 something year olds, claiming they're the ones that

were spreading this disease. protests were okay. thousands of people marching and nobody social distancing but we turn around and blame the bar owners. you know, like i said, what's going to work in lubbock is not what's going to work in houston or dallas. as far as west texas is concerned, when this happened i got contacted by a lot of bar owners, i'm county commissioner of precinct two and they were asking why are we being punished. what did we do wrong? we are social distancing, spacing people out, we are sanitizing everything. so i would say leave it to the individual business owner and let the people choose. if i walk into an establishment, into a restaurant, it's filthy, i'm not going to go back in there, i'm going to leave. leland: people tend to vote with their feet on these issues. folks in west texas don't like being told what to do. we learned that over a long history. jason, appreciate your time.

all the best and we'll talk to you soon. >> thank you for having me on. leland: gillian. gillian: well, a teenager is now dead after a shark attack in australia. it was in fact the second shark attack to take place this week. the boy was attacked while surfing on the north coast of new south wales. witnesses say several other surfers rushed to help get the boy to shore. local officials closing nearby beaches now in response. leland, as i mentioned, this is the second in a week. it was apparently, according to witnesses, a very horrifying attack to be around. the boy was screaming. he was obviously in a lot of pain. leland: yeah. there's not a lot of shark attacks that aren't horrible to be around. i guess the question i would have, we come to think of this and expect it in australia, off the coast, ha hatteras in the u. i'm wondering from south africa, somebody whose been there,

obviously there's a lot of sharks down there, cage diving is a huge thing. is the novelity and fear of a shark attack the same thing down there, there's so many sharks off the coast of south africa, it's a little more expected? gillian: it's a good point. there are a lot of shark attacks around the western cape in south africa where i spent a lot of time because i have family there. one thing my husband taught me is that you always have to look at chumming. whenever chumming increases, during tourist season, you'll see a lot more shark attacks. not taking blame away from the sharks here for eating people, but the point is that they're being attracted to the shores and then they attack people and everybody gets mad. but the chumming's got to stop. leland: excellent point. i'll stick on the beach with my pina colada. gillian: as coronavirus cases are continuing to surge across parts of the u.s., the happiest place on earth is reopening its doors.

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well as the magic kingdom. the public is coming back into the park starting today. the experience is entirely different than it's ever been before. face coverings are mandatory for everybody inside magic kingdom and animal kingdom, or else you will get kicked out. there are a couple relaxation zones where you can take off your mask and relax, take a break from the heat. two of the places are indoors. nobody gets inside without first passing a temperature check. tuesday and wednesday, park employees did test runs of the new pandemic created system. some dressed up in character now on stages for now. there won't be any touching of each other. others played the role of customers. there are fewer people on rides, empty seats in between people to keep social spacing and plenty of plastic partitions to reduce the chance of virus spread.

annual pass holders were allowed inside both parks yesterday and thursday. and a woman from chicago told us she felt quite comfortable. >> the safety procedures there are incredible. best i've seen anywhere so far. i felt safe. i didn't feel at risk at all. >> reporter: disney lost about a billion dollars worldwide in revenue over the past four months. you would typically see roughly 200,000 guests inside the parks on any given saturday in the summertime. those crowds will now be about half of that. that's why anybody wanting to come will first have to have a ticket they purchased online and make a reservation. disney's goal, to make the happiest place the safest place. as you know, the timing of this reopening all coming while the state of florida is surging in new coronavirus cases. today's count, 10,300, that's the third highest since the pandemic began. yesterday was 11,400 new cases.

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leland: amid record numbers of new coronavirus cases, disney world is reopening and other states are talking about shutting down again. here to discuss, dr. amesh adalja, infectious disease expert. good to see you. appreciate it. is there a happy balance between reopening fully, as disney world is trying to do or reopening safely, and shutting everything down? >> i think that there has to be a plan for when you have people socially interacting because you're going to get cases inevitably. you have to have a plan. it's not a question about balancing, it's are you ready for the cases, do you have enough contact tracers, are your hospitals in good shape?

i think that's the way we need to move forward. some states have not put the plans in place despite having time to do so. leland: when you think about the explosion of cases as we're hearing from governors around the country or making the argument of look, if somebody my age or your age gets it, might not be that big of a deal. it's worth doing that, allowing that economic activity to happen at the risk of some people getting it so long as the hospitals are in good shape and so long as the elderly are protected. >> in general, that is somewhat true. but you have to remember that we're already hearing about hospitals in trouble in arizona and parts of texas and parts of florida. clearly, we're not able to isolate the vulnerable enough. the key thing is, do you have a program in place that allows you to find these cases, to diagnose them, to isolate them and do contact tracing. if you hear about people waiting seven, eight hours in a car just to get a test and having a seven-day turnaround time on a test, all of those types of plans are really not operational. so we have to get this right. we do have to live with this. we do have to have people

getting back to their lives. the way things are going in many states it's really challenging to do so. leland: you just used the term live with it. we went from slowing the -- flattening the curve, slowing the spread, to we have to live with it. would it have been better if we decided we had to live with it from the beginning? >> i think we had to realize from the beginning this is a virus that's going to establish itself in the human population. it wasn't going anywhere until there was a vaccine. what happened, there were mistakes made in january and february and march. we got to a point where we didn't know who was infected and who wasn't infected. the governors had the blunt tool that was only thing in their toolbox, they did economic shutdowns and stay at home of orders. it wasn't in anyone's playbook. you did it as a last resort and was supposed to be voluntary when you look at the plans in place beforehand. it was broad, extrapolating a lot from new york city to other places. the key thing is that we want to use precision public health, go after those activities that are spreading the virus.

in order to do that, you have to be able to test, track and isolate. that's how you live with this. we haven't been able to do that in many places. leland: all right. a lot of work to be done as you point out of. dr. adalja, appreciate it as always, sir. >> thank you. ♪ gillian: performing arts across america have been shut down due to restrictions on public gatherings. tens of millions of americans especially this summer are missing music concerts, dance and theater perform mapses. one virginia art center is trying to step in and help fill that gap. joining us now is jefferson center executive director, sirus case. thanks for of joining us this afternoon. tell us about the problem, sirus, that performing arts centers like yours are facing. >> sure. so first of all, thanks for the opportunity to shed light on this. like many arts organizations all over the country, we've dedicated our lives to providing opportunities for people to be

in a room together and experience live music or theater, opera, and so covid-19 has basically put us as mission zero in terms of being able to do that. our solution in the short term has been to create a campaign to remind people to protect their cultural assets, give now and gather later. when we look around our of communities and think about what matters to us most, which is opportunities for our kids to be in a dance recital or opportunities to see a great jazz musician, i'm encouraging people think about how to protect those assets and make sure they're still here when it's finally time to get together safely. gillian: so tell us about how people there in roanoke, virginia, but really around the country can step up and help if they want to. >> sure. so again, our campaign is give now, gather later. our website really what we're encouraging people to do is make that investment in the short term, in the arts. look out among your community

and say this is something that matters to me, this is an organization that i want to support and make those gifts. nonprofit sector depends on our community members. we're very lucky in roanoke. we have a vibrant arts community and supportive community that comes out and says these things matter. we want to make sure they're still here when it's time to get back together. gillian: yeah, we all want to make sure that, you know, when the first post-coronavirus season rolls around, whenever that may be, all of these things, the performing arts are still there for us. such a beacon of joy and strength for so many millions of americans. thanks so much for joining us and telling us about your organization and for all the work you do. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. leland: there's so much that we can also do, whether things get back to the way they used to be or just the way they are right now. you had on a ballerina from a couple weeks ago who was trying to do performances i think by

instagram, right? gillian: uh huh, tyler peck. one of the foremost dancers today. she told us about the same thing. leland: i never saw you so excited for an interview before. [ laughter ] leland: i think is it tyler peck on instagram? gillian: listen, some day we'll talk about golf again and then it will be your turn to be very excited. leland: we can only hope that that day is soon upon us. great show, gillian. i know you'll be on media buzz tomorrow, 11:00 a.m. eastern. we'll be back here with you at 1:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. enjoy the great rest of your saturday. ♪

eric: president trump today is strongly defending commuting the prison sentence of his long-time friend and advisor, roger stone. you know, that bombshell announcement came last night, days before stone was set to turn himself in and begin a 40 month sentence. he was sentenced to more than three years in prison after a jury found him guilty of seven counts of obstruction of justice and making false statements to conference. the commutation setting off a commipolitical fire storm. welcome to america's news