the record heat also bring up some nasty storms, the threat of tornadoes today and much of the planes. that doesn't for us, john roberts. >> john: great to be with you this morning. we look forward to seeing what the redskins renamed the team. so fun, we will do it tomorrow. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert. the city on edge, new york city is suffering its fourth straight weekend of gun violence. despite me or bill de blasio beefing up police patrols and hot spots. 35 victims in 28 separate shootings since friday, including a 1-year-old killed at a family cookout. police say shootings were up 600% between friday and saturday, from the same time last year. this as there is a disturbing new video of a suspected gang

member attacking an nypd officer, putting him in a headlock and drawing cheers from the nearby crowd. here is the mayor on the crime wave. >> we can never give up on our children come we can never give up on our families, we can ever give up on our neighborhoods. we have seen such tough days in the past and we fought our way back. and it means the whole community has to be involved. it's never just about police. >> but former mayor woody giuliani ripping into mayor de blasio. watch. >> i've never seen it like this. there were more murders in the city but we have never had the total disrespect for the police. even in those bad old days, nobody was going to punch a police officer.

>> aishah hasnie's life with more. >> just last week the mayor was touting their overall crime numbers thing they have never been as low as they have been under this mayor, but this morning, mayor de blasio was visibly shaken as he talked about that little boy. 1-year-old devol gardner jr. shot in the stomach and killed while playing in a park last night. three others were injured and no one is in custody. also a 12-year-old boy between friday and sunday as he said, a 600% jump from the same period last year. the nypd recently disbanded its anti-crime unit which took illegal guns off the street. he says they do not support that decision.

>> until the coronavirus it was overwhelmingly successful. we have to fight back and become once again what we were. >> we are also seeing more attacks from police caught on camera. an nypd officer was put in a headlock earlier this month over and i've legally parked vehicle. they are talking about finally charging the suspect, and an officer hit with an egg in the face on sunday as clashes broke out between pro-police and black lives matter demonstrators. this comes at a time, melissa, one retirement at the nypd are through the roof and the city just canceled a recruit class of over 1100 recruits. melissa? >> thank you for that. if this is "outnumbered" and i melissa francis. here today, harris faulkner,

emily compagno, and the host of "kennedy," kennedy herself and former governor mike huckabee. the governor of new york is in a free fall. the mayor has no plan. he says wear a mask, we would be better off wearing a bulletproof vest. he paints the street in front of trump tower and that is his response to what's going on right now. i say this not to be hyperbolic. i think he needs to resign. he has no plan in this city and it's in a free fall. what are your thoughts? >> is summed it up beautifully, it is out of control, there is no leadership. no adult is responsibly acting as a leader and i'm just wondering how many u-haul's can hit the exits of new york in a short period of time. if i lived there, i would get

out as quickly as i could. and now it's a place that everybody would like to get out of. and why would you want to be a new york cop when you're mayor won't stand with you and he stands by as criminals put your officers in a headlock, throws things at them, spits at them, burns of their police cars. it is a city that has lost any semblance of order and mayor de blasio is specifically to blame for it. >> melissa: harris, i want to ask you, which black lives matter, specifically? when you look at what's happening in the city, the mayor has security. i live in a security building. who is and danger right now? it is working class people. it's people who don't have the economics to live in a place where they can protect

themselves. >> absolutely. and i can say that those are not all african-american people. these are all diets that are in direct contact and in the pathway of the violence that's biking. i asked the question, why is murder going up. why are we seeing extremes, i have talked about black on black crime and that's where we tend to see the concentration of the most police officers in urban areas across the area, where the black on black crime happens to be highest. we saw this in atlanta and it was heartbreaking. i'm still talking about 8-year-old to coria turner because the mayor of atlanta was the one who asked the question. we are doing this to each other. that little girl's grandfather said, do black lives matter? and if so, what about her? i don't think we can ask that enough, but i also think that as you watch that video, and if you

see the headlock of that police officer, you are seeing the collision of extremes. it is horrible. can you not see that they are complicit in the violence of the moment attack and nature of this on. and i don't know if you caught third most powerful in the house, hakeem jeffries, a democrat and african-american man tweeting over the weekend, enough with the sign painting and all the stuff that we see in the streets in terms of the visual. at what's going on with moving us all forward to? a conversation that it is past time to have. >> melissa: absolutely. and mayor de blasio isn't the only one to blame. they'll see weighing in as well. kennedy, i will ask you a question on the other side. >> do we think this has to do with the fact that there is

record unemployment in the united states right now? maybe it has the to do with the fact that people are scared to pay their rent. and, that they need to shoplift some bread or go hungry that night. >> harris: kennedy, she has the nerve to talk about unemployment when she chased 40,000 high-paying jobs out of her district. can you believe that? >> no. i think what she did to amazon is unforgivable. she hates creativity, she hates capitalism but also this is the hypocrisy and they do whatever they can to score political points. and we are not sitting here talking about a spike in

shoplifting incidents. we are not talking about a spate of bread loaves of missing mysteriously from shelves. we are talking about the indiscriminate killing and taking of human lives and that is the problem here. you are talking about a city where the mayor shouldn't be painting on streets. i don't have a problem with people expressing themselves but he should be figuring out in his own interview, he sat there and said, this is really bad. can you believe it? it's like, you are the mayor. you are failing and it you are criticizing the outcome of your own leadership, melissa francis is absolutely right. it's time for him to resign. other american cities are going to follow suit and that is not acceptable. >> melissa: he will not resign and will not make it to the end of this term. when you look at the video of a

police officer and a headlock, i've never lived in a time where i thought you could get away with putting her hands on a police officer. that is a very serious offense. and according to reports, he left. he's not under arrest, the person who did that. the rule of law has broken down and that starts at the top. what are your thoughts? >> that's exactly right. we have been watching this train wreck happen in slow motion. remember we discussed on this show, and from local leaders, what i don't understand is why there is a failure to acknowledge. these statistics are absolutely staggering. that father who was shot and killed while crossing the street while holding his 6-year-old daughter's hand to come of that

happened in her district, in the bronx. why is it possible for the local leaders to acknowledge those statistics, and all of this puts law enforcement officers at risk. when you have this mixed messaging, when you don't take a zero tolerance stance, you have all these interrelated factors of defunding the police and painting the streets and not taking clear positions to advocate for police reform. you can acknowledge violence while still maintaining a hearty and clear stance that you are there for production including protection of law enforcement officers. member this morning, dan patrick pointed out that since this year alone 29 police officers in texas have been shot and killed, 11 since the george floyd murder. since 2015 over 500 have been shot and killed and over 700 have died by suicide. this is an epidemic across the country and as you pointed out,

it's not just new york that is running, it is every urban city and it's incumbent upon local leaders to acknowledge this interrelated factor and how that is messaging up front so we prevent more deaths of the law enforcement in more deaths of community members. >> melissa: when you look at the acceleration of what's going on in new york city right now, this is not about politics. this is not about what party you are in. it's not about the color of your skin or about money. it's about the fact that this city is in real danger. i will give you the final word. >> i wouldn't say it's about some of those things. the big revelation that we have had as a nation, has been where communities of color have suffered the most from that an end also just revealing and it

didn't create it, it revealed it. now the same people are put in the cross hairs of the very angry in the streets and that's not everybody, but it's enough of them that we are seeing those videos of police in harm's way, and that one on one collision. also we are seeing calls for things, people don't understand what they are calling for when they say, defund the police. and yet the protesters still stand, how long will they be out there? and was not even really the issue as much as other things? i think race and politics play a role but i also think that just the resources of things in our community is an issue, too. that was the democratic governor of new york. he wanted to in his words display some earlier on in all of this.

so we will see where it goes. i hold out hope that love always wins in the end and i say enough is enough and choose a better route together as americans. >> melissa: it's not about a fact that he's a democrat or the fact that the city is a converging tax dollars on those sorts of things, that's not why i am personally calling for his resignation. it's because the city is in a free fall. the white house press briefing set to kick off in less than an hour and we expect to hear about president trump commuting roger stone's prison sentence. the president says his former associate was the victim of any legal witch hunt. democrats are furious. >> ed staggering corruption but i think it's important for people also to know that it's a

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>> harris: fox news alert, we are awaiting a white house press briefing less than an hour from now, and we expect new reaction to president trump commuting his former associate, roger stone's sentence. 40 months in prison. that happened friday night. former special counsel robert mueller's going after the move in a "washington post" op-ed. that happened over the weekend, saying roger stone's prosecution and the rush of probe are justified. the white house already hitting back just today. watch. >> even in the body of the op-ed, neely says again that there was no collusion from the trump administration. so what did robert mueller have to do to justify his

investigation, waste of taxpayer dollars and america's time? had to come up with process crimes, which is exactly what was done in the case of roger stone. >> harris: now senate judiciary chair lindsey graham is announcing he will call robert mueller to testify. he tweeted, "mueller seems willing and also capable of defending the russia probe." top democrats are going after the president's decision. watch for that. >> anyone who cares about the rule of law in this country is nauseated by the fact that the president has commuted the sentence of someone who willfully lied to congress, covered up for the president, intimidated witnesses, obstructed the investigation. it shouldn't matter whether you're a democrat or republican. this should be offensive to you if you care about the rule of law and you care about justice. >> harris: governor huckabee, you always expect, with these things, or politics to be a dividing line. i'm curious from you, is this a great thing for the president to do given the timing?

commuting the sentence of roger stone? or not? >> mr. huckabee: i think it was a necessary thing. to put roger stone in prison during a covert outbreak, basically sentencing him to death, they denied his motion to simply delay. this isn't a pardon. i think people need to keep in mind that he's not off the hook. >> harris: no, it's a commutation. >> mr. huckabee: is a commutation. i remember giving commutations and people thought, "you pardon the guy!" it's very different. with the president did was recognize that there is a line between justice and revenge. democrats want revenge. they hate roger stone because they hate donald trump. anything they can do to just grind a heel and roger stone's face and spit in the president's face, they are going to want to do. the question is, how is justice really served by taking a 67-year-old man and putting him in a covid boilerplate? how does that make me, as an

american citizen, better, safer, more financially secure? it doesn't. quite frankly, it was a very gutsy thing for the president to do just before an election. most people, like bill clinton and even both bushes waited until the very last day they were in office, when there were no political consequences for them to take these kind of actions. i have to hand it to president trump. it's pretty gutsy to say, "look, i'm not going to let this guy be stuck in prison. i'm going to do it, and so be it with the political consequences." i would say this, harris. i think we need to buy a lot of brown paper bags of these democrats can breathe into them, because they are hyperventilating over something that they've never been that upset about historically, when presidents make commutations. or, in the case of several presidents, even pardon decisions. >> harris: kennedy, and reading some of your facial expressions on camera here and i want to get your thoughts. >> kennedy: [laughs] it's funny, adam schiff talking

about nausea, because he is such a gasbag. he has absolutely no credibility when it comes to this subject. he need not comment on any of this. what i will say is sometimes the president is really bad at picking people to surround himself with. i think roger stone loves politics, and he is very convincing, but might not be the best person to have around your campaign because he may be more troubled than good. these are not mutually exclusive, with the steele dossier and the way some of these fisa warrant applications were approved, you look at someone like roger stone and you realize the full heft and weight of the federal government was really put upon him, and for any citizen, whether they are an uncouth weirdo or not, that is not how the law should be administered in this country, and we have a lot to learn from this case. again, it's like protecting free

speech. sometimes you have to protect people that you have a personal allergy too. i think roger stone is a great example of that. democrats need to calm down, because if it was their guy and power and they feel like someone was railroaded by the surveillance state, they would be cheering the exact same thing. therefore, it is completely neutralized and they don't have a say. >> harris: emily, before we go to break, i just want to get your topline thoughts on the legalities of this. did he break the law or not, roger stone? >> emily: well, the white house certainly argues it was a process crying. i have to echo kennedy and the governor's comments here. kennedy is right, being weird is not illegal. i have to point out that, for example, earlier on this network this morning, we had a democrat who said it was a "humanitarian issue" to release inmates over the age of 60 given the covid crisis. this is a 67-year-old man headed to a federal facility, but in the last two weeks, 20 inmates

tested positive for covid. prior to that they were zero. why is this any different from the 21 states that have released inmates at the state level -- >> harris: where any of them in for process crimes? when you look at your research? i will lean on you. were any of them in the situation where they were nonviolent crimes where they also should be let go? >> emily: absolutely, and taking it a step further, there were plenty who have been caught up in this no bail release for covid that were actually violent. that goes back to my continuing point of preclassified crimes. there are things that are classified as nonviolent when they absolutely are, including preventable deaths that happened in oakland when a person -- it was classified as a nonviolent crime, making terroristic threats, but he came out and murdered someone. that's all in a larger conversation. commuting someone sentence and not having the pardon 67 is not a big deal. >> harris: i'm just wondering if there were other people who might have been in similar situations to roger stone in terms of their age and their

potential exposure, and less of violent crime. i'm just curious to know if there are two lanes of justice were only one. or just one, i should say. >> emily: there are many who have appealed to be released under covid and also under the first step act. there are many who are waiting for that. you are absolutely right, there's a long line. i would say the only argument you can make about this is the fact that there are many deserving of release, including all those inmates who presently have covid. it's a larger discussion of the violent and nonviolent crimes, as well. certainly the release into the public. >> harris: all right. i still have kennedy's description of roger stone in my head. [laughs] her words were very funny. you can watch roger stone's first television interview since president trump commuted his sentence tonight. at 9:00 p.m. eastern, on "hannity." he will be with shawn. coming up, a growing showdown over the trump administration's push to reopen schools. democrats say that could threaten children's health, but

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>> american investment in education is a promise to students and their families, if schools aren't going to reopen and not fulfill that promise, they shouldn't get the funds. >> well, you can't do that. i know you support vouchers, and that is a reasonable argument, but you can't do that unilaterally. you have to do that through congress. >> well, we're looking at at all the options. >> melissa: education secretary betsy devos pushing hard for schools to reopen this fall, but also saying the policy is not one-size-fits-all.

and that schools in areas where the coronavirus is out of control will be "dealt with differently." but house speaker nancy pelosi calling the administration's push to reopen schools "appalling." >> we heard from the secretary was malfeasanc malfeasance, and dereliction of duty. and the president and his administration are messing with the health of our children. going back to school presents the biggest risk for the spread of the coronavirus. >> melissa: and top johns hopkins university doctor, tom ingalls b, telling fox "issuing an ultimatum for schools opening is the wrong approach." i want to compete for us, kennedy, because it's interesting. she is tying the idea of money to schools, and i have one child in public school in new york and one child in private school. the private school has a very defined plan to go back to school in the fall. they have masks, they are ready,

they are communicating to parents what they are going to do, and they're going to open. because they are competing for dollars, and they know people will not pay the tuition for the fall if there isn't school. on the other hand, my child in public school, he's not going back full-time in the fall. they are shrugging their shoulders. de blasio, once again, and carranza, saying, "well, we want to be safe, we are trying to make a plan." why can some schools make a plan, in one city, and some schools can't make a plan in the same city? it does seem to be about competition for dollars, or if you're just going to get paid no matter what. what are your thoughts? >> kennedy: you are absolutely right, and you are seeing the benefit of school choice. that's what parents should have. in los angeles, the teachers union here, you tla, listen to this. hold onto your halter top, you won't believe the demand for allowing their membership to go back to work in the fall. you know what they want?

yes, they want masks for kids, they want social distancing, but they also want to shut down any pending charter schools. they don't want new charter schools to share existing space, which would create more classrooms and more room for social distancing. they want a medicare for all-type insurance program, and they are demanding all of this and holding the nation's second largest school district hostage unless their demands are met. it is so irrational and socialistic, you cannot grasp the power and the depth of the evil of utla. that's what they are doing. they are screwing with people. yes, it's a political move. as long as you keep kids out of school, you keep parents from working. as long as parents aren't working, they economy continues to falter.

it is that her right now? the president, who only benefits in the november election if there is an economic rebound. what they are doing is absolutely discussing. it's happening natalie on both coasts, but in between. on this issue, betsy devos is right. it is not one-size-fits-all. shame on utla. >> melissa: governor, how would you make this decision in your state if you were in charge right now? >> mr. huckabee: first of all, i recognize that there are school people and there are kid people. school people care about the perpetuatinperpetuation of schoe institutions, the salaries of the teachers. keeping everybody hired. kid people are concerned about what's best for the kids, for the students. we need more people in leadership, the political world, who care about kids more than they do schools. the secretary is 100% right. if you're not going to open schools, you don't get the money. who should get that money can make the parents. if they are going to homeschool, if they have to find alternative ways to educate their kids and

take care of the child care and deal with school lunches and things that these kids are not going to have, they should get the money. after all, it ought to be about the kids, not about the institutions and the politicians who make a living getting all of the money from the teachers unions. it really shouldn't be that complicated. >> melissa: emily? >> emily: right, it shouldn't be that complicated, but as governor notes, too, as a federal attorney i saw firsthand all day the bloated weight of the dinosaur bureaucratic government. and nothing is slower than the weight of it. that is why it is so surprising to me when everyone keeps looking to the federal government as having all the answers. at every opportunity, as well, the government can seize that opportunity as an example of clear-cut leadership. but here i see that the local and state governments, as well, are totally failing here. no one is stepping up with that plan. i think, melissa, your example in the beginning was a really

perfect illustration of, what motivates, and b, what happens when you articulate a plan. there are so many people, government employees, so many that work hard and of course are dedicated to children and everything, but there are also many who have thrown up their hands and are waiting for a type of guidance that they are not getting. the unfortunate part is that we are all the losers. as they are having this top-down fight about it, it is the kids and the families and the vulnerable communities and those parents who are trying to go back to work that will be the ultimate sufferers here. >> melissa: harris, you know, the response to me would be, of course the private school has a plan. it has money. because it's getting paid. the truth is, all the parents are holding back the tuition. they aren't getting the money. so they are spending the money on masks, they are putting security in place, because they are not going to get that tuition. if people don't think there's going to be school, and send their kids back, i mean, it really shows you that if there

is competition you are forced to think faster and to act. they will do it in the safe way, they are taking everybody's temperatures, they have consulted. what are your thoughts? >> harris: i, too, have one in private and one in public. the differences i see are also about where those schools are located. i'm looking at reports today of detroit, there schools are opening it. they need a summer program to try and catch up. many were and economic situations where they didn't have tablets across the board, so they couldn't even do distance learning. some of the kids over the age of 15 going into high school years, they were having a problem not just in detroit but across the country, economically stressed urban areas, of having the kids even stay in school digitally. they can get there, but those kids weren't checking the box that said they joined that digital classroom. i go back to something the governor said that really resonated. there are school people and then there are kid people. if you are a kid person and you

know that there are kids out who need the meals from schools every day, new york has set up some centers in the beginning, melissa, you know, you live in the city. the lines are so long with those parents just trying to get those food programs because the kids were out. if you are also a kid person, wouldn't you have open those up before you open the rest of the economies of experience could get back to work? i just have a ton of questions. i'm a kid person. >> melissa: harris, those are all brilliant points. thank you. it's the name that stood for 87 years. critics have attacked it for decades, but now after pressure from activists and sponsors a major announcement from the nfl franchise in the nation's capital, that's next. ♪ i am in so much debt. sixty-two thousand seven hundred and ten dollars and thirty-one cents.

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nfl today. the washington redskins officially have announced they will drop their team name and logo. they announced a review of the name ten days ago. we've been reporting that amid renewed outcry that it is racist. owner dan snyder said seven years ago he would never have changed the name. but several sponsors have called for it, and fedex has threatened to pull its name off the stadium where the team plays. no word yet on a new name, but a statement from the team has said this. "dan snyder and coach ron rivera are working closely to develop a new name in design approach that will enhance the standing of our proud tradition-rich franchise and inspire our sponsors, fans, and communities for the next 100 years." governor huckabee, what is your reaction to this? >> mr. huckabee: i don't care what they call the redskins, as long as they just lose to the dallas cowboys. that's the main thing i care about. [laughter] >> harris: oh, my goodness. >> mr. huckabee: the whole

point of this, it has just become absurd. everybody's trying to be politically correct and not offend anybody. it's a proud tradition. i think it was really a tribute to the native americans. for dan schneider seven years ago to say will never change itd how to sell out and fold because of the pressure, it's disappointing. if they really need a name, here's a suggestion. just call them the d.c. deep staters. that would be a great name and very appropriate. [laughter] >> harris: listen to you! i know that the word "redskins" resonates so differently within the native american community. they may not see it as a celebration. but this has been a topic and a talker for so many years, emily. >> emily: that's exactly right. that's how, to me, all that illustrates is the power of corporate dollars. the real reason washington is changing their name, which is

because a fedex pressure, it's the same reason the nba will not sanction having #freehong kong on their jerseys even though the players can have #ican'tbreathe. i have to point out there is a pattern of this that isn't the first time. the astros used to be called the houston colt 45s, the wizards used to be called the washington bullets, and there's been a lot of name changes that we've got a new stew with fans. remember, the oakland invaders, the st. louis rams. there is a flexibility that fans and brazenly have a history of that. i think point here is that it's money that ultimately talks. >> harris: to the governor's point, too just because my whole family's cowboys fans. -- i don't want to pass judgment, because i don't know. it is simply a question. with the logo and the name change, will the washington whoever it-

they whoever-they-hour management do something for the native american community? do they consult them and ask if they would prefer that to to a e change? >> melissa: i think with the management will do is make a bunch more money. when you change the name of a team, everybody has to buy all new jersey's. they can complain as much as they want, but you go ahead, and if it's your team, you've got to buy a new jersey and a new this and i knew that. every time you change the team color or the name, it's money money money for the team owners. don't forget that. >> harris: wow. no doubt. we are about 15 minutes away, we are told, from the first white house press briefing since president trump commuted his former associate, roger stone's, prison sentence. that's set to get under way atop the hour and we will take you live to the lectern where press secretary kayleigh mcenany

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>> melissa: facebook is reportedly considering a ban on all political advertisements in the days leading up to the november election. the social media giant has taken a lot of heat, including from its own employees, over its policy of not fact-checking political ads even if they contain false information. ceo of mark zuckerberg has long insisted that facebook should not be the "arbiter of truth." some democrats say and add band could lead to voter suppression in the crucial days ahead of the election. the trump team isn't happy about it, either. saying, "this would be an egregious stifling of political speech." kennedy, i love this story because facebook can't win for losing. no matter what they do, everyone is furious at them and they just can't seem to get this issue right no matter what. >> kennedy: no, it's absolutely true. truth and falsehood are very

different things to different people when you are talking about something as subjective and emotional as presidential politics. a lot of times you are talking about character, you are talking about issues that really have to do with how you perceive them. if you perceive something as being negative, it doesn't mean your opponent's' portrayal of their position is false. they have to be very -- i understand that. i also think that sometimes before elections, just a couple days before, that's when a lot of people are getting information for the first time. if you're getting all your news from facebook, you've got problems. what facebook needs to do is a better job of policing annoying people on facebook, especially your friends from high school who can't edit themselves when it comes to politics because they think everyone should agree with them. they are the worst. >> melissa: governor huckabee, i think i'm one of the only people who has never been on

facebook. i had a page for a moment that was managed in a book launch, but beyond that i don't think i've ever looked. i feel good about that. do you think they made the right decision here? >> mr. huckabee: i think you probably did. several million dollars spent against me in attack ads, political advertisement is nasty business. if you're going to stop facebook, stop everybody. don't do any tv advertising, radio, newspaper, billboard, brochures. end it all. it's always advocacy advertising. if you ask me, what did i think about the millions of dollars of attack ads that were attacking me? i hated all of them. but this is a free country with free speech. the way to overcome it is to come back with a different speech. it's not to ban everything. this is america, for heaven sakes. people say things we don't like, people even say things that aren't true. the best way to counteract it is to point out the fallacy of those untrue statements and to

fight back. the idea of banning something, the question, who gets to decide if it's untrue? who are these so-called fact-checkers? the biggest fraud in america is the fact-checking industry. most of them are so biased they only check the facts that matter to them. >> harris>> melissa: i feel liky political ad i've seen is a lie. i always listen to them like, "that's not true." there you go. the white house press briefing is scheduled to start moments from now. we will bring you that just as soon as it gets underway. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪ ta-da!

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political at the other day, i thought it was a movie trailer. it was that dramatic. i was like, "oh, this looks great!" it was a political ad. [laughs] >> melissa: i know, i think the public is smarter than that. they understand what they are seeing. thank you to everyone in our virtual couch. we'll see you back here tomorrow. here's harris. >> harris: and breaking news this hour, we await the white house press briefing at mid new reaction to president trump's decision to commute long time advisor, roger stone's, prison sentence. as soon as that begins we will take you there. this is "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. meanwhile, democrats and some republicans are going after that move regarding roger stone, calling it corrupt and a mistake. however, the president is defending his decision. he says stone was treated horribly and targeted by a witch hunt. he was to begin a sentence tomorrow on charges including witness tamperi