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you have the best and happiest week and will be back on monday if not before 8:00 p.m. eastern, the show that's the sworn and totally sincere enemy of like the path of the smugness and groupthink. until then, the great sean hannity steps in from new york. >> sean: thank you and welcome to on. huge breaking news, multiple fronts. the president of the united states officially commuted what is the unfair, unjust, 40 month prison sentence handed down to longtime political operative roger stone and in just a moment, roger stone will join us for an exclusive one-on-one interview. first we start tonight, we turn to an important update on america's liberal cities and major crisis. in chicago, at least 64 people were shot. 11 people were killed. i'll repeat that. 664 american shot in chicago. 11 americans dead this weekend. sadly, tragically, just your average weekend there. nobody seems to do anything about it. meanwhile a new york, the
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violence also spiraling way out of control. at one point over the weekend, there were 15 shootings in the span of 15 hours. all told, 28 separate shootings that took place on saturday and sunday alone. for reference, during the same time period last year, there were only five shootings. look at your screen. this video from friday shows the moment when two armed gunmen shooter 28-year-old man in broad daylight around 7:00 p.m. and on sunday, 1-year-old baby boy was shot to death in brooklyn. how do we absorb this kind of evil? this innocent child was in the stroller at a cookout near a public playground. lawrence jones just interviewed his father and his grandmother. we are going to have a heart-wrenching video straight ahead to make. does comrade brazeal solution to the horrible violence that's getting worse every day in his city? first he disbanded the nypd's anti-crime unit.
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then he cut a billion dollars from the city's police budget and later he helped paint the words black lives matter on fifth avenue in front of trump tower. i don't know. maybe just maybe the mayor could have been, you know, protecting his city and its children and its citizenry before he had time for his artistic endeavors. again, he can do anything he wants once the city is safe and secure. have at it, mr. mayor, you can paint every street in new york city for all i care. predictably wild de blasio's efforts have not made the city of new york any safer. instead conditions on the ground of become much worse. the residents and police. this video shows a police officer getting assaulted and actually put in a headlock while trying to arrest a perpetrator. another video showing officers getting pelted with eggs from an angry mob. it's become so bad police are now retiring en masse, and so money have filed for retirement that the city is trying to force
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the cap on the number of retirement applications that it will except on any given week. remember, thanks to coronavirus and the genus governor cuomo, new york state is also a no bail state. another idiotic decision. meanwhile, new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, the real speaker of the house, pelosi speaker in name only, has a simple explanation for the chaos in the carnage in her city. remember she is a biden advisor and according to acosta cortez, people are just hungry, and thef violence and vandalism to acquire bread. that's why they are killing each other in the streets. is that we are to believe? you decide. >> maybe this has to do with the fact that people aren't paying their rents and are scared to pay their rent and so they go out and they need to feed their child and they don't have money. so you may be have to -- they are put in a position where they feel like they either need to shoplift some bread or go hungry that night. >> sean: while aoc makes
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excuses and comrade de blasio is out painting murals and cuomo gives criminals no bail, people are dying. lives are being lost every day. in new york from horrific acts of violence. 1-year-old davell gardner jr. at -- shot at a playground. ability filled with all of gods potential. his life matters and today fox news contributor lawrence jones interviewed his father and his grandmother. lawrence, i don't know. i mean, i just imagined they are devastated as any parent would be. >> sean, good evening. a sad story indeed. new york city spacing currently shone 130% increase in shootings across the city, earlier today h the grandmother and father of young davell gardner jr.. as you noted, he was in his stroller in the park at a barbecue where when a group of men came out and started shooting, they ended up shooting
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him in the stomach. they try to rush into the hospital but he died yesterday. i talked with his family today and they aren't happening, sean. take a look. >> microphone was on the phone with my mom and she said you have to go. he's in the hospital. i called her. as soon as she picked up, she was crying. you need to get here. you need to get here. hurry. i was like what's wrong. she was like, jr. got shot in his stomach. and it just broke me down because i didn't know. if my son was going to make it or not and he didn't. i am sitting here calling everybody like nobody can tell me the condition of my son. he's getting transferred from hospitals. nobody has seen them. the doctors can't say nothing. it just broke me down and then with the doctors came out and told me, it was just like, i
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just lost myself. >> for the cowards that did this, you should be ashamed of yourself because everybody talk about black lives matter. what about baby lives? what about teenager lives? like, you took an innocent child from her mother and father as well as the grandparents. i don't think it's fair. >> do you believe based on what you know now and no one's talking, that people thought that your son's life mattered, by the way they are conducting themselves right now? >> no. anybody who says that they are, they are just lying. if you know information, that needs to be said. no information. this is my son. he died.
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whatever information you know, you need to tell me. he needs to be known. i need this information. because these guys just took my son's life. for what? he didn't do nothing to nobody. >> do you feel like the elected leaders, the people that represent the community, are doing enough to stop this? >> no. the community is just getting worse and worse. nobody's doing nothing about it. nobody. nobody is trying to make a change. and it's sad to say that. like every day is just worse. you don't know if you're going to live to see the next day. >> what is your message to the people that did this? >> you took my son. go to hell. you can go to hell. excuse my impression but you took something precious to me,
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precious to my son, something precious from his mother, and we will never see him. he cannot come back. he cannot wake back up. he was an innocent little baby and he's gone forever. >> you took my son's life. i can't get that back. i can't hold him no more. i can't hear him calling me daddy no more. i can kiss them no more. i can play with them no more. i can't do nothing with him no more. like, i've got to put my son and the ground now. he's only one. his birthday is in two months, in two months. he didn't live to see 2. he didn't live life. it's like i wanted to get him out of here before something like this happened. >> sean, couple things, i talked with the family and i've asked, they heard from any city leaders? the mayor, statewide leaders, u.s. leaders. they haven't heard from any of the ones that are representing new york. sean, i also asked him, did
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anyone see something? and they know, the people in the community, someone saw something that no one is speaking. it begs you the question. we've covered all the other stories, sean. we were just in chicago last week. we covered injustices with the police. but does this child, 1 years old, they got shot in the stomach, does his life matter? judging by the response right now, i don't know if it does, sean. >> sean: it matters to me. you know, what do the grandma say? innocent child, innocent baby. i'll never hold my son again. and i'm going to have to bury my son and the ground. in the mayor doesn't call? the mayor cuts a billion dollars from the police. the mayor gets rid of the most effective crime unit, the governor, the dopey governor, no bail? and they are out painting when we have to be saving lives. let's save lives first and then can paint all you want. >> i don't know what they expected to happen when you
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decided that you were going to demonize all cops. do do you think that the community was just going to just sit there and the criminals that are in the community were just going to sit there and sit on their hands? no. they're going to take advantage of the situation and judging by the numbers and i presented in the beginning of the program, 130% increase in shootings. you tell me if you need cops or not. all of us, have all set on this program, we talked about george floyd and other shooting situations. when there's bad apples, get rid of them. but now i community is hurting. this is a 1-year-old baby that will never, ever see their future, ever again. they won't get to walk across a graduation stage. they won't get to see the brothers and sisters. the child is gone. there's no replacing that. >> sean: we are not protecting our national treasure. that's our children. that little, that young, young 1-year-old kid. our national treasure. lawrence, thank you.
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prayers with that family tonight. we turn to other breaking developments surrounding roger stone. late last week, his sentence was officially commuted by president trump rightfully so. we've been calling for it on their show. stone was unfairly targeted. he was persecuted by mueller's team of trump heating bureaucrats. his life was upended by years long investigation and trial which was a sham trial. on january 25, 2019, well let's when that predowngrade, 29 agents, tactical gear armed with m4 rifles around his home. rushed into his house, take him into custody. and then fake news cnn cameras somehow just happen to be there just at the right moment to capture it all. a mere coincidence? offer process crimes. in other words, the things that people like comey, mccabe, clapper, and brandon have been accused of and may have done and even referrals the cass some of them so despite getting
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arrested like a dangerous terrorist or lying to congress, stones process crimes, five counts of making a false statement, by the way weren't even material. one obstruction charge and one count of witness tampering. after his arrest the judge denied roger his first amendment rights and literally instituted a gag order. he could not even declare his own innocence publicly. during the trial, stone's jury was anything but. i thought we were guaranteed a fair and impartial jury. he did not get that. the jury foreperson was a former democratic candidate for congress who expressed publicly her hatred of donald trump and his supporters. on twitter, she previously mocked roger stone's arrest. also accuse president trump and his supporters of white supremacy. does she seem like a fair and unbiased juror to you? how would you feel if somebody you loved and care about how that person is that jury foreperson and they hated the priest person that you love. would you call it fair and impartial justice? i don't think so. after discovering these posts,
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those verdict, you think it would be overthrown. it was not. instead mueller's prosecutors actually wanted a seven to nine bars for lying to congress. this is madness. ultimately stone received a 40 month prison sentence. again, that is madness as well. according to the study by the federal government, get this, most violent offenders serve less than three years in state prison. roger stone, well, these were nonviolent process crimes. so make no mistake. roger stone, just like papadopoulos, general flynn, paul manafort, was preyed on by politically motivated prosecutors abusing their powers. that were corrupt with the help of an politically motivated juror in this case. but like every single thing, this president does, the commutation roger stone is causing widespread hysteria on the left. here's one small example, but i say to these people you're about to watch, let's imagine you're on trial for something and you
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find out after the trial that the person that is the jury foreperson doesn't like you and spoke out publicly they don't like you. would you want that person on your jury? would you consider, would you think you had a fair and impartial jury? the answer is obvious. but for some, the hatred of trump, well, that quote no pun intended. >> donald trump's problem tonight is can he win the presidency again? by being more protective of roger stone then he is of the teachers and kids he wants to send back into our schools? >> this week president trump went where richard nixon wouldn't when he commuted the sentence of one of his own men, roger stone. >> the president through this commutation is basically saying that if you live for me, if you cover up for me, if you have my back, then i will make sure that you get a get-out-of-jail-free card. >> we will have legislation that says a president cannot commute or pardon or offer clemency to
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anybody who commits a crime, is convicted of a crime that affects the president's behavi behavior. and his culpability. >> sean: no democrats believe in something called the fair and impartial jury. wow. for process crimes, i assume any day now that a lot of the people that have had referrals for lying under oath or lying to congress, i am sure 29 guys and tactical gear are going to show up at their house for a predowngrade and i would assume they will be frogman there and i assume cnn fake news cameras will show up. pelosi also calling a staggering active corruption. mitt romney called it unprecedented. i have a special message for you. do you, mitt romney, senator met romney, lawmaker met romney, former republican presidential candidate mitt romney, do you believe that every american has a right to the presumption of innocence and do you believe
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every american has a right to a fair and impartial jury? mitt romney, do you believe that? i guess in the end, maybe it's a good thing if you don't that you lost. that speaks volumes about you, senator romney. former governor. the frail, corrupt joe biden, like we need lectures from him. president trump, the most corrupt president in history. hey, joe, fair question. you believe in a fair and impartial jury question really? i these people just dumb are they lying to you? look at this chart. so far during his presidency donald trump has commuted the sentences of 11 people. barack and joe commuted a whopping 1,715. bill clinton, 61. meanwhile bill clinton tops the list for pardons. 396. moroccan joe second 212. so far with president trump, 25 pardons. so just who did bill and barack
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pardon and commute? we have the records. 1999 clinton commuted 16 members of a group called the f aln, terrorist organization connected to 146 bombings. see the bow making right there? that's a group making the bombs. clinton also pardoned by the way his whitewater business partner along with three others who convicted on the ken starr pro. i don't remember schumer, pelosi, mitt romney, speaking out about that. and don't forget clinton pardon his brother, roger brady was convicted of well dealing cocaine. meanwhile the obama-biden administration also had a long track record of controversial clemency orders like for example obama commuted the sentence of a top convicted f aln terrorist, oscar lopez rivera, on his last day in office. he also commuted the sentence of a notorious drug kingpin known as the cracking of oakland. her perspective, president trump just offer clemency to a man who was convicted of a process crime after getting railroaded by mueller's witch hunt and speaking of which, mueller just issued an op-ed in
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"the washington post" celebrating his conviction of roger stone. as if he was a great threat to society. he was now. senator graham is not planning on bringing mueller in for questioning, tweeting "apparently mr. mueller is willing and also capable of defending the mueller investigation through an op-ed in "the washington post"." i am with lindsay. let's bringing mueller back in because i've got a lot of questions i'd like to send in. here with reaction, fox news contributor, former congressman trey gowdy. congressman, before you became a congressman, now you're not a congressman thankfully. i don't have to impugn that to you anymore. you were a prosecutor. if i recall, you never lost a case. is that correct? >> i had good cops and good victims, sean. >> sean: the next question is do you believe every american has a right to a fair and impartial jury? >> they do. they are presumed innocent. >> sean: did roger stone have a fair and impartial jury?
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>> yeah, i'm troubled. first of all, it's a political prosecution so the political views of the potential jurors are really important. what i don't know, sean, is whether or not his attorneys had the chance to strike these jurors and made a strategic decision not to. i would need to know that to be able to answer your question 100%. >> sean: i think what we do understand if i'm not mistaken is that this was not known before him that this juror had a bias against mr. stone's. what do you think that would be relevant that the judge would say that person should not be on the jury. >> that is juror misconduct. if the question was asked on the information was withheld, that's juror misconduct, yes. >> sean: okay, now as it relates to all the other matters, there's a lot of other people that have been referred to as well for telling lies. you know their names. how come we don't see 29 guys in tactical gear, frogman and cnn cameras. is it a usual process for a processed crime of lying to congress which in and of itself,
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is it a usual process for a judge to put a gag order on a defendant so they can even proclaim their innocence? >> no. with defenders like roger stone, oftentimes he left himself apart. you say we have a warrant out for you are arresting the need to turn yourself in. you just send a tactical commute outside commute outside s.w.a.t. unit coming at don't do it in the middle of the night. i didn't see that in drug cases, and he certainly didn't see it in process cases like false statements. >> sean: once it was discovered that the juror, jury foreperson had a prejudice against mr. stone, wouldn't it be fundamental common sense decency and real justice to call a mistrial and start again, worst-case scenario? >> yes. mistrial. a new trial if it happens -- >> sean: thank you, congressman. appreciate it. when we come back, roger stone, his first tv interview since president trump commuted his sentence. you don't want to miss that exclusive interview and much
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>> sean: we told you president trump announced friday he was commuting the sentence of roger stone. days before, stone was set to start a three plus years prison
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sentence stemming from robert mueller's russian witch hunt. roger stone was convicted of process crimes and statements to house lawmakers. in other words, long before congress. adam schiff presiding. the biggest liar in congress. neither the schiff show or robert mueller produced one bit of evidence that stone was working with anybody colluding with russia. by the way, as a white house press secretary explained "these charges were the product of recklessness born of frustration and malice." joining us now, roger stone, first tv interview and his attorney, david shown. i would like to say to you, roger, i'm glad you had your sentence commuted and you are not headed to prison this week, there is a part of me that's also very angry and very concerned for the country. based on the entire handling of your matter. why don't i just let you say it in your own words what this has been like for you.
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>> well, this is the most horrible experience you can have because i see immediately why 99% of the people who choose to plead not guilty and go to trial lose. when you're up against the horrific and deep-pocketed resources of the federal government and these really sadistic arrogant politically motivated prosecutors, and i had a biased judge. i had a stacked jury. i had a corrupt jury for woman. as my friend tucker carlson said, my trial was over before it started. and now when you go through something like this, sean, you find out who your real friends are and who the people are who really never were your friends. you had been a tremendous friend. you have done a great job of keeping people informed. but i have to really single out your fox news colleague tucker carlson. he took up the cudgels early. he stayed on this case with
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every twist and turn, wasn't afraid to take on the judge. laid out the jury question, encouraged me when i got discouraged. he's a man of incredible loyalty and he's a great friend. he may be the best friend a man can have, so my hats off to him and also congressman matt gaetz from florida who i hope to live long enough to see in the white house. he was a great friend who never gave up and tried to make sure everybody understood the injustice that i had been through. so many others. bernie kerik, former new york police commissioner. charlie kirk. rev learned franklin graham, pastors mark burns and darrell scott, randy coggins, dynamic young evangelist from florida, the entire flynn family, general mike flynn, man who is still being persecuted. my hats off to all of them because they helped me and my wife and my family through the
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scariest, most difficult process you can imagine. but above all, i must tell you, sean, based on advice from you and reverend graham and the two pastors that i mentioned, i really want to think god because i was literally hours away from being sent to a covid infested prison in violation of current bureau of prisons and doj policies, in violation of every precedent in the country where people going to jail or in jail for asking for compassionate release, and in every case it was granted. i am 67 years old. i've had a lifelong problem, respiratory problems. i was facing what i really believed was fun near death sentence. so you, particularly tucker, matt gaetz and everybody i named, my heart goes out to you. i'm deeply deeply grateful but more than anything else, i am grateful for god because as you told me, if i would rededicate
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my life, i would be reborn. i remember it like it was yesterday and your advice was solid. you said god will never desert you. you will never abandon you. he will protect you if you confess your sins and you walk in his way. and i've done my very best to do that. >> sean: let me go through and i want you to tell people, because this whole system of vinyl, the biggest case in point, he commits 19 murders and given a get-out-of-jail-free card and a witness protection program because he flipped on john gotti. put that aside for a second, in your case, did mueller and his team offer anything of value, your freedom for example i would argue is of great value if you would say certain things they wanted you to say whether they were true or not. >> in the beginning of the case, sean, i don't think that was
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their intention. but as they got closer and closer to having to issue the mueller report and they realized that they had no russian collusion because there was no russian collusion, it was a hoax. on july 24, jeannie rhee, who was heading my prosecution within the mueller team, that's extraordinary in itself because she previously represented hillary clinton and the clinton foundation in the illegal email server case, the missing email case. she had a clear bias. she was a maximum donor to both of hillary's presidential campaigns. by the way, she has all the charm of a north korean prison guard. she made it very clear to one of my lawyers after a hearing, she asked to see them privately, that if i would really remember certain phone conversations i had with candidate trump, if i would come clean, if i would confess, that they might be willing to, you know, recommend leniency t to the judge paragras
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i wouldn't even serve any jail time. i didn't have to think about it very long. i said absolutely not. there was no circumstance under which i would bear false witness against the president. i was just not willing to live. now, in the last two days when i said that, people said you see stone had the goods on trump and he traded his silence for commutation. that is patently false. i never said that. i never implied that. what i said has been consistent, that i would not lie against my friend of 40 years so they could use it for impeachment. they wanted me to be the ham in their ham sandwich because they knew the mueller report, particularly on russia, was a dud. they had nothing. they were hoping that i would recharacterize my phone calls. these phone calls that were plea-bargain-induced claims by michael cohen and rick gates for which they could never find any cooperation, and i simply refused to do it.
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>> sean: let me go to david schoen and i will ask you both the same question simultaneously. roger, i think i've known you well enough over the years. you're a fighter. your instincts are going to be okay, and i'm going to go back and i'm -- maybe if you go back and you appeal this new open up this case again, i would argue right now you're home free. and i think that i saw nothing but corruption in that courtroom by the judge in that jury they not giving you another trial. david, i would say that if you go forward with that, you're now putting roger's life back in jeopardy again. and i don't know -- i don't have any faith in that system. i don't have any faith in that judge. i don't have any faith with that jury. nobody on this case to i believe is honorable here. >> i think you're right. you raise an interesting question and a perplexing one. we have to sit down and make a decision as to whether to go forward with the appeal, knowing a win in this case and there should be a win, classic fifth and sixth amendment violations, would go to the same judge in a
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courtroom of injustice. let me say to you, this commutation is a great tribute to president trump for three reasons. he sends a message that they mueller team was rotten to the core from its inception. mr. mueller picked -- >> sean: i've been saying that for over three years, screaming at. >> you don't pick, the investigation that involved the president of the united states requires integrity. you don't pick and andrew weissmann who was the most ethically bankrupt prosecutor i've ever come across. i represent men right now who were wrongfully convicted with him, you talked about making deals with witnesses. he lied about those deals and he mentioned specifically by a judge for his misconduct. that's one thing. the mueller team was run to the corporate filled with partisans. the other two, an unfair trial. the president recognized that, the judge denied the entire defense theory. mr. stone wasn't allowed to mention on social media or make a defense theory that in any way challenge the integrity of the mueller team. unprecedented.
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thirdly, the president saved a life here because the judge's decision on denying a surrender extension when covid was in the prisons and with these health conditions goes against all authority in the country on this issue as to the court of appeals. >> sean: you know, i'm listening to your attorney and i know have david a long time, i've known you're a long time, roger. your character. everyone knows that. it's not about you as a character. i want a fair and impartial jury for everybody. it wouldn't want a democrat or liberal to have 29 guys in tactical gear over process crime. wouldn't want run any american that you have a right to speak out narrow defense. it would wanted to jury for prisoners prejudice toward a judge that went along with this. my question to you is we have seen this now with papadopoulos, we have seen it with paul manafort. we signed with general flynn. we have seen it with you. i'll be honest, roger. i believe in our constitution. i believe in our rule of law. i think i read a lot about equal
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justice and applications of our laws. i don't see this in any of these cases. i see a travesty of injustice. you have been a part of it. i don't know. i'm losing faith in the system, roger. >> well, you have a good reason to. you examine the d.c. circuit court of appeals where i had to file a last-minute emergency appeal of judge jackson's room sending you to jail. she ignored all the legal precedents in that. she ignored my health conditions. she ignore the conditions at the prison at that time, and she ignored the current policies of doj and the boc. you would've thought it wouldn't been reversed in the appeals court the they ruled for her 3-0. i'm afraid this is a fixed system. above all, though, i guess i would have to say the most important thing here is the courageous and as of the president's act. i know there were many, many people who told him in an election year, don't do this. let roger stone wait for a pardon after the election.
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sean, i don't think i would have live that long, not with my asthmatic condition. not with now 60 covid-19 cases in that prison. so i have d affection for donald trump because i've known him 40 years. he's a man of great justice and fairness. he's a man of enormous courage. i knew he would take some shots for this, but i think most people, most fair-minded people, understand he saved my life and at least on paper he gave me a chance to fight for vindication. i'm not a fool. i'm going to be guided by the advice of my lawyers. as i understand it, if my conviction is overturned by the appeals court, i would be back in front of judge jackson. judge jackson issued an incredible ruling that said that i could not raise misconduct by the special counsel, the fbi, the doj, or any member of congress. adam schiff. so i mean, if that were in general flynn's case, we still
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wouldn't know how he was railroaded. we still wouldn't know about the political motivations behind taking him down. so i've got to become convinced i can get a fair second trial, because i certainly didn't get a fair first trial. >> sean: you had a gag order and you weren't allowed to even put on your defense. you wanted to put on a defense. they denied you that right. then of course we have the jury for person on top of the predawn raid. i am sure you called cnn, roger, and said that. here is, i do not believe you can get any fair trial in that court room or that system. i don't know. i think that probably every fiber of your being would want to be to fight to get the acquittal. you believe you should get. but i don't know if i give you that advice because i don't think there's anybody in that courtroom that is fair, roger. >> as you point out, comey,
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clapper, brennan, mccaig, peter strzok, lisa page, rosenstein, uhler himself, hill, they all lied under oath that they lied about material things, consequential things. they had an intent and motive to lie. i was charged with making the statements that were innocuous. if you look at a very carefully, is very clear what happened here. that is that aaron zelinsky, the corrupt prosecutor, the dirtiest of mueller's dirty cops other than weissmann share the fruits of the surveillance to me with adam schiff so that he could fashion gotcha questions, most of them of no consequence. and then after the set up in which i appeared voluntarily before the house intelligence committee, schiff in violation of house rules, shared the classified testimony with misters zielinski so mr. weissmann could fashion a very contorted and contrived indictment. yet today you have mueller and schiff and rosenstein back to
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saying stone was in cahoots with russian intelligence. this is nonsense. they are all the way back to the russia, russia, russia. >> sean: was there any evidence of that? was there any evidence ever given of any contact with any russian intelligence? >> there was evidence that i had a twitter direct message exchange with lucifer .2. a persona. if you look at when that happens, it happened long after wikileaks had published all their material. if you look at the actual content of the exchange, it's benign. there is no collusion. there's no collaboration. and thirdly we don't even know that guccifer 2.0 is a russian agent. just because john brennan said, he said the steele dossier was true. i could have proved at trial using forensic evidence and expert testimony from fellows like the former sna
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counterintelligence expert and ray mcgovern that no one hacked the dnc, that there was no online hack of the dnc, that the information based on the download times was downloaded to a portable desk and taken out the back door. but i wasn't allowed to present that defense because judge jackson would not allow it. >> sean: roger, i want to believe in our system of justice and in the way it worked i guess in the end with the president's commutation. but what happened to you, what happened to papadopoulos, what happened to general flynn, what happened to him manafort, what happened to the president of the united states, what happened to carter page, we are going to lose this country if this happens again. it's the biggest abuse of power, corruption scandal in our history. glad you're free tonight, roger. which you godspeed. david, think you for the great work you do as his attorney. here with reaction, senior editor at large, frank martin, author of the brand-new book out today and on hannity.com,
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amazon.com. satirical and serious. joe pollock and the host of justice right here on the fox news channel, judge pirro. your reaction. >> the president has always been transparent. he's always been very clear about what he thinks. he says what he needs any means what he says. i think that the commutation of the sentence was entirely appropriate given the fact that this judge was clearly biased, the four woman of the jury was clearly not just biased but i believe that she did not tell the truth under oath when she was asked about that question 23, had she ever made any public statements regarding the mueller investigation and anti-trump mueller comments? and the truth is that she did and she said she really didn't remember. and then when she was nailed on it, she said i was taking just in terms of roger stone. look at, unfortunately we are living in a time when there are those who are not interested in
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justice that so many have fought for over the years but would rather we just make a political statement out of every case, like this guy, emmet sullivan, judge sullivan, in the michael flynn case. i like -- roger stone is home and i think what happened to him. >> sean: he can't get fairness in that courtroom. >> we did 40,000 cases a year. the idea of breaking into someone's house in the middle basically of the night is absurd for a crime like this. >> sean: joe, congratulations. i've been reading the book. really well done. great work as always. i want to get your observations on this. i see great injustices everywhere. i see corruption. the 1% that abuse their power, slide on the presidential candidate, transition team and president, scares me. the one that went after roger stone, manafort,
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general flynn, papadopoulos. >> it shows you how radical the democrats, the media, the deep state have become. the civil rights movement was based on fighting for due process, fighting for justice, and fairness and impartial trials. the scottsboro boys for example falsely accused, tried by an all white racist jury. they had to fight for their freedom. now you have the left completely throwing the civil rights movement aside, the sixth amendment of the constitution. they want to go for police officers. they want to go for republicans, conservatives, anyone they can. nobody is entitled to a fair trial according to the democrats, the media, the deep state, if they support donald trump or if they are in the wrong political camp, even the wrong racial ethnic camp and we have come a long way from the civil rights movement. >> sean: the worst part is every democrat, exculpatory evidence withheld here, exculpatory evidence withheld there. abuse of power.
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hillary gets a pass, real russian collusion ignored. real quid pro quos ignored with joe and zeros experience hunter. if they allow that system to exist it will also happen to them. thank you both. congrats on the book. when we come back, the debate over whether schools will remain closed come this fall, heating up, the views meghan mccain calling out joy behar after she said republicans don't care about children. senator kennedy next. a lung cancer diagnosis can leave you holding your breath. ♪ but bristol myers squibb is working to change things. by researching new kinds of medicines that could help you live longer. including options that are chemo-free. because we're committed to bringing new hope into lung cancer care.
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the foggy glasses, and the muffled laughs. a simple piece of fabric makes a big statement: i care. wear a mask. let's all do our part to slow the spread. >> sean: yesterday speaker pelosi continued to blow sides with the opening of our schools, launch more baseless smears against the trump administration. it's not worth playing. by the way, during a heated exchange on "the view," joel behar and so far as to claim republicans don't care about children or education. >> to say republicans don't care about children or education. >> why do they keep defunding it. why do they keep defining education? every time i turned around it's less money. i was a teacher. i know what i'm talking about. >> i think what's exhausting is
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coming on the show every day and being told that republicans don't care about anything. we just want people to die. we want children not to be educated, nothing matters. it's a crisis right now. i have friends who've been calling me panicked about their kids not being able to go back to work and go back to school in september and we all have to collectively come together and stop coming into this show every monday after a break and saying it's republicans fault. it's not. this is america's problem. >> sean: also breaking to make california's two largest school districts, los angeles and san diego, nothing they will begin the year with full distance learning. in other words, online. here with reaction, louisiana senator john kennedy. reading a lot with one happening in europe but i'm not a doctor. what are your thoughts? >> america is going through a rough patch right now, sean. some people seem to be enjoying it. maybe they just hate america. they be they just enjoy watching
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the world burn. i think some are liking the chaos because they think it gives them a political advantage. part of that chaos is being caused by our school closing. for our kids, we need to open them. i can promise you for many of our kids, keeping the schools closed is going to hurt them far worse than the coronavirus can. france, germany, denmark, austria, vietnam. even vietnam has opened their schools. and they have done it safely and we can too and we should too and if i can say one of the thing. i know some people in good faith disagree with me and i respect that. let's have the debate. but there are some people who want to keep our schools closed because they think it gives them a political advantage. and they are using our kids as
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political pawns treated them i say unashamedly they can kiss my ass. it's wrong to do that the kids of america. not the people in good faith but those enjoying the chaos because they think it's going to help them in november. >> sean: and i make the distinction for example, there are honest people that are protesting, you know, real injustice for example in the case of george floyd. within the group we know, black lives matter, well, we have some leaders on tape saying atrocious things like what we want? dead cops. when we want them? now. how do you think this plays out because to me defunding the police is real. biden now joining the new green deal and plagiarizing bernie sanders extreme socialist agenda. the police are the enemy, have now become the enemy of the people and defunding and reallocating he supports. i would think safety and security has got to be a top
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issue now. >> well, i think education and opening our schools is a perfect example. there are some americans who think it's unsafe. i disagree with them but i'm willing to have that debate. we can talk about how many, many other countries have done it safely. but i'm convinced there are not a substantial minority of people who justly does -- like to see our schools closed because it creates more chaos and it givese in november and a pox on their houses, man. you shouldn't politicize our children. for many of our kids in america, our schools are the only stable things in their lives. and these people, the cynical people who are using this for political fodder, man, they have no soul. you know, to use our kids like this. that's not everybody. both those who are using it for
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political gain, well, i said when i felt about it. >> sean: all right, thank you, senator. we really appreciate it. when we come back, we have the update on the madam in the epstein case, ghislaine maxwell trying to afford the authorities -- trying to avoid the authorities. that and more as "hannity" continues. massmutual healthbridge is a free life insurance program just for healthcare workers fighting covid-19. apply today at massmutual.com/healthbridge ♪
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♪ >> sean: all right, to unusual updates on the ghislaine maxwell case. remember, the madam of
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jeffrey epstein? moved at least 36 times over the past year while trying to hide from the fbi when agents searched her home. they found cell phone wrapped in tin foil. they believed she was trying to evade law enforcement. the case unfolds. in 22 days, if you've never believed live free or die america on the brink, it comes out. the full report on what makes america great. the radical 2020 agenda. now biden buying into "oh, the cops are now the enemy and we will allocate funds elsewhere." aoc advising on the environment. we've got a lot of details coming soon. hannity.com, amazon.com. laura ingraham, are you there? >> laura: are you actually going early? >> sean: i asked 30 seconds -- i gave it back tonight. spee>> laura: well, now you have to stop talking.
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no, i actually really enjoyed your interview with roger stone. i really enjoyed that. >> sean: by the way, it shouldn't happen this country. you and i have been talking about it. i spent over three years -- we revealed all of this. you did a great job. i mean, i can't name everybody. >> laura: well, it's all in the line on november. tonight, my whole point is anyone on the sideline or who are just, you know, basically random across the shot. i don't want to hear at all from them in 2020. that's it. speak to you and i -- we told our conservative friends, he's a conservative. people doubted us. the president has followed every promise he made. and an unprecedented records. it's either that or what, no law and order? funding the police? oh, and i guess the iranians can't expect anothered