attention to that, everyone will focus on it. senator lindsey graham, thank you for joining us. and thank you for joining us. i'm dana perino, i'll see you on the five. in the meantime, got my good friend bill hemmer. >> bill: i'm ready to go, here we go. thank you, dana. big hour starts now. i'm bill hemmer. good afternoon. the white house ramping up its push to reopen schools in the fall. at the moment, the vice president is in the louisiana meeting with the governor and officials talking about getting the school and sports back up and running. this comes after california will kick off the school year with all my classes only and expecting north carolina's governor to make a major announcement. we will bring you the headlines as we got them today as well. i will speak with a hall of fame football coach about the future. kristin fisher has the latest when the president holds a press

conference later today but we begin with the fda commissioner steve han and good afternoon to you. thank you for being here. a lot of news today on vaccines. do you have reason to be more optimistic today than a week a ago? >> thank you for having me on the show. i remain encouraged by what we are seeing in the vaccine development, fda of course is responsible for calling the balls on the strikes on the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine and we have a number of vaccine developers and health with us who are in the process of developing vaccines for covid-19, so that does give me encouragement. >> bill: modernity is saying phase three on the 27th of july, two weeks away. that sounds like good news. how do you score it? >> it is good news. a number of the manufacturers have already been through the early phases of the clinical trials, so first looking at safety and then early evidence of whether it works or not and then they go to these phase

three trials and we provided guidance to them, the sort of data that comes from these big trials that we will need to see you to assess the safety and efficacy of the vaccine and one thing i can tell the american people is that the fda is on the job working with the vaccine developers, we want to make sure that the data shows us whether the vaccine is safe and effective so that we can make the right decision for the american people. >> bill: a few more things on this, 87 locations in the u.s. that they will experiment, is that the right word, does that sound right to you? >> it's a clinical trial, which means we have to look at whether the vaccine works, and we need some clear evidence of that, so clinical trial which is a type of an experiment gets done in order to inform that decision. what we want at the end of the day, all of us want is information that demonstrates the safety and effectiveness of a vaccine, so the number of sites, the locations, you want to make sure you perform the trial in those locations that

have active outbreaks, and want to make sure you are looking at the right things, the right and points of the trial to give us the best read on the saved and effectiveness. >> bill: there was a conference call today, trying to nail this down. someone from the fda was on the phone call talking about actively manufacturing a vaccine and it was four to six weeks away. we provided advice to the companies. they have told us they're doing something called manufacturing at risk, so let me just explain that really briefly. typically when a vaccine is developed, we wait until all the data is in, fda makes a decision about safety and effectiveness. we say it's a go and its authorized, then the company starts manufacturing the vaccine. in this setting given the urgency of the situation, the manufacturers can start

manufacturing the vaccine while the clinical trial is ongoing so that when the decision is made, the vaccine is available to start and ministering to people so it speeds up the development process. >> bill: back to the original question, are you more optimistic today or not? what's the take away on a vaccine? >> i am optimistic. i continue to be optimistic. i think i'm encouraged by the development process, how well, it's gone, how safely it's gone, how effectively it's gone, so that gives me great hope. >> bill: okay. we had a scientist on here yesterday from hong kong. she defected and says she fears for her life. she was very convincing and what she says are lies from the chinese government. has anything changed and how the task force views beijing's honesty? >> i think we remain where we were before. i believe that in all the public health officials have said this, we need information early and

often in this pandemic. we learned as we've gone through this pandemic about the disease, so any information that could have been gotten earlier would have been better in terms of how we manage the pandemic, so i think that's basically the message all along and it continues to be the message. >> bill: is that called a cover-up? >> i don't know, not for me to answer whether it's a cover-up or not, but i can tell you one thing that is very clear and public health emergencies, the more information you have, the better it is for the people you're taking care of. >> bill: thank you for coming on today and i hope you come back very soon. thank you, sir. kristin fisher is at the white house today and to the north lawn we go now with the headlines. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. so right now, the vice president is in louisiana just finished touring the state's emergency operations center and i was heading to a university touss tf reopening schools this fall and this has been probably the number one push by the trump administration over the last week or so, and it continues to

be the case and this afternoon, the press secretary kayleigh mcenany said that president trump is still considering this idea of withholding some federal funding from schools that do not choose to reopen for in person classes this fall. >> the president has always acknowledged that this is something he will take a look at because he believes it is paramount for kids to go to school, but he has also said he wants that funding to follow the students. >> so funding follows the students, watch for that on capitol hill in the coming weeks because republicans and democrats say that they want more funding for schools in this next big stimulus package, phase four they are calling it, but democrats do not believe that schools should be punished for going online only at least for parts of the fall semester and former vice president joe biden gave a pretty fiery speech this afternoon when he touched on that. >> mr. president, open

everything now isn't a strategy for success. it's barely a slogan. quit pushing the false choice between protecting our health and protecting our economy. all it does is endanger our recovery on both fronts. >> and president trump is going to be speaking this afternoon in the rose garden. also this afternoon, there is a hearing in boston over a new rule from ice, immigrations and customs enforcement. other schools are suing ice for ordering all foreign students to leave the united states or transfer if their schools go online only. harvard is one of the universities that has already decided to do that, but many k-12 districts are still debating what to do and time is running out. time is also running out for the republican national committee on the trump campaign about what to do with the convention that is slated to be held in jacksonville, florida, right now

but there is talk about moving this convention outside and talking to trump campaign officials today, they say that is certainly a possibility that they are moving perhaps a little bit closer to, but that no final decision has been made yet, but moving a convention outside in jacksonville in august. going to be hot. >> bill: everything is a 180. kristin, thank you. nice to see them at the white house today. college football is supposed to kick off about six weeks from now, but still don't know whether or not they will be season. how are you doing? nice to see you today. he looked good and tanned and arrested. i think you nailed it the other day when you said how do you have football when you don't have school? so i ask you today, are we going to have football or not? >> i don't believe we are. you don't have students, how will you protect your football players and with the rules and regulations they have concerning

the virus it's just absolutely impossible to have football. they've had over 100 football players test positive for coronavirus and yet not one of them has been hospitalized. an individual on a college football team tests positively, the 20 people he talked to our quarantine for two weeks. compare that with the nfl. i'm an nfl player and i get tested positive, they test those 20 people immediately and they move on with it. the educators are looking to make sure that we have absolutely no risk whatsoever, and you can't have that. life is a matter of risk, and therefore i see no way there could be college football. >> bill: are you okay with that in a word? >> you know, not okay with that. i couldn't stand anything if i know it's going to end but for six months, i'm holed up there, can't go anywhere because i am a

risk, my birthday candles cost more than the cake but when you look at it, how in the world are we going to move on? >> bill: what about this idea, came out with these face cards you could call it earlier today. does that help? >> i tell you, six weeks ago, the face card doesn't help you i know everybody should wear a face mask, used to walk in with a paper mask and make people nervous and now you walk in without a mask and everybody gets nervous. i just think there comes a time people understand that risk is part of life. we want to do everything we can to keep them safe but in college football at the contact, the closeness, they are trying to eliminate all risk whatsoever and you cannot do that. i think athletics is so important. that means while the other sports, women's golf, tennis, women's track, they aren't going to have a sport. it has gotten to the point where we have shut everything down and

i'm not criticizing that, but a great leader looks at everything from both sides. scientists only look at it from one single side. sometimes when you have medications, the medication is worse than the illness. sometimes the cure creates an awful lot of side effects and we have to look at what is best for the people. how are you going to educate people particularly in the downward areas by just having them on internet. you can't do that. >> bill: i've got 20 seconds left. i shouted out a message yesterday, wanted viewers to name the next teams for the washington redskins. do you know how many replies i got? 25,000. mostly smart alex all across america, but what does that suggest about the decision and perhaps america today?

>> i think this, everybody has their own opinion, everybody comes with authority and what has happened so much in our society is everybody gets a trophy, everybody is a winner, and that's not the way life is. you're going to have ups and downs, but now everybody's authority is saying the name should be changed but it's not a sentence, let the public vote on something. and if i owned the washington redskins, why should i not be able to name my own team? >> bill: thank you for coming on. we will talk in a couple of weeks. give me football or give me death, how about that? you got it. thank you. vice president joe biden releasing a plan to pour $2 trillion into green infrastructure in clean energy. is that a winning strategy when it comes to the economy? will ask chris coons later on and karl rove joins us as well i'm a conservative columnist

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in brooklyn, appeared via videoconference. the judge siding with the prosecution which made the argument that she is an extreme flight risk. they note the fact that she has three passports, has $20 million in some 15 accounts and also take into account the judge did any way that she is very good at hiding. the fact that she was moving from place to place to place and that no one knew where she was other than the fbi for the last year convince the judge that ghislaine maxwell released with an ankle bracelet would not be sufficient enough to guarantee that she would not flee given her international ties. she is a british socialite, has lots of friends in high places and the fact that frankly, she has the money to flee. somebody who could actually flee to france and france has a nonextradition law there. the judge did not buy the

defense argument that covid-19 imposed a major risk to ghislaine maxwell and if she were detained, it would pose a major risk to her here. that was not good enough. >> bill: you don't know this, but you agreed with geraldo and geraldo agreed with you, you both thought she would be granted bail. that did not happen, what was the judge thinking? >> brilliant minds think alike with me and geraldo. the judge did not have the courage to do what was really right in this. i realize that the charges are agree jess and horrendous. we get that, but if you are analyzing this without the notoriety of jeffrey epstein, if you are analyzing it just purely from the bench, if you put an

electronic bracelet on her ankle, if you take away all of her passports, if you do the things he would do in any other case, you reduce that extreme flight risk to know flight risk, but this judge did not see fit to do that, and honestly, i think this judge got it wrong. >> bill: what do you think? >> i think this was a political decision, i agree absolutely that the question is not whether she committed these hideous offenses. the question is whether or not she would show up for trial. she bought a house in new hampshire for goodness' sakes. she went to all this trouble to stay in the country. now to keep her in that awful building, we have a covid-19 present spread they've lost 95 federal prisoners throughout the bureau of prisons. they lost jeffrey epstein to suicide, apparent suicide on the very conditions there, very

suspicious conditions and now they have her in this place, a hotbed of covid-19. doesn't make any sense. i think that if you take her passport, you put the ankle bracelet on her, she owns property now, she could have led this country long ago if she so inclined. now to keep her there in solitary confinement essentially for over a year awaiting trial. they are doing this to put pressure on her, the federal prosecutors. they are punishing her before conviction. she has never been held liable in a civil suit, never been convicted of a crime. she is not jeffrey epstein. >> bill: you both make very interesting points, but she has the resources that often times before a judge if you prove that you have resources, you have the means to do what you want. would that have been a risk? >> we are not supposed to

discriminate against people not in their criminal justice system based on whether they have money or don't have money. to make the argument that she's been been hiding in plain sight is -- she owns property here. and a lot of people, a lot of people buy property under an llc and different names not because they are running from the law or hiding from the law but because they hide from their stockers because of their business enterprise. you think brad pitt owns any property under brad pitt's name? it doesn't work that way. for the government to make that argument really shouldn't have. and i'll tell you right now, i'd move it very close to now. >> bill: let me get geraldo back in here. you said don't confuse press accounts with proof. that comes back to the law. >> its true and just on the hiding aspect, she was hiding from the daily mail. she was hiding from

"the new york post," she was hiding from the "national enquirer," one of the most sought after with the exception of meghan markle, the most sought after tabloid figure in the country. everybody, every reporter that works for one of these tabloids whether it is people, they wanted ghislaine maxwell to get into that and show her million-dollar hideaway in the woods of new hampshire and so forth. remember, these charges relate to offenses that happened 25 years ago. from 1994 to 1997. i think these are charges that are wobbly on their face and for this judge to chicken out and not give this defendant bail i think is copping out to the mob. one back to both of you, thank you for your time come appreciate the input come out of time for now but we will see whether or not the squeeze is on. thank you. got some breaking news a moment

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>> when donald trump thinks about climate change, the only word he can muster his hopes. when i think about climate change, the word i think of his jobs. good paying, union jobs that

will put americans to work. >> bill: joe biden rolling out phase two of his economic recovery plan, says to build back better, the u.s. needs to invest in jobs that create a more sustainable future that includes infrastructure and transit in the auto industry. reaction from biden supporter, democratic senator chris coons in a moment, we begin peter doocy live in wilmington, delaware, today. >> joe biden's plan is to have the u.s. totally emissions free by 2050 and have a completely pollution free power grid by 2035 and 15 years on the price tag on these things over the course of a potential biden first term, $2 trillion. >> we are not just going to tinker around the edges. we are going to make historic investments. >> a g.o.p. spokesman is already warning about the high cost rate "joe biden's economic and climate agenda shows that he is

beholden to left-wing ideologues and not to the american people who face the prospect of eliminated jobs and higher taxes under his plan." policies championed by president trump are backward looking and threaten american citizens health and claims his agenda could create more than a million jobs. will require a lot of people bus to be greener and to work assembly lines as he seeks to replace the humongous fleet of federal vehicles with electric cars. i did ask biden today as he left the lectern if he had any time for a few questions, but he just kept walking, so that was it. >> bill: second week in a row. peter doocy, nice to see you. want to bring in senator chris coons, supporter of joe biden. how are you doing? it's been sometime. good afternoon to you appeared hope you and your family are holding up okay. i heard that price tag, 2 trillion. do you get a sense he is being pulled too far to the left in this election? >> no, i don't. i think that joe biden laid out a clear vision today for how he

can take advantage of this opportunity. i as you know cofounded the bipartisan climate solutions caucus, a group of 14 senators republicans and democrats who agree that climate change is both a real challenge and an opportunity. and i support joe biden's vision of saving and strengthening the american automobile industry, something he had a critical hand and doing back in '08-'09 and in modernizing our auto fleet. this is the second stage of his proposal to a buy american, build american, invest in innovation and an infrastructure our country. just two months ago unanimously, the senate spent 2.3 trillion in one bill to strengthen and sustain our economy during the midst of this pandemic. >> bill: i get it. >> it makes sense. >> bill: i took note of the good paying union jobs. he has said that two weeks in a

row now, clearly an attempt to win back voters that were lost to donald trump in 2016. what is your sense of how he is conducting his campaign? he was in his hometown today. last week, he got in his car and drove to and a half hours into dunmore, pennsylvania, but it's either there or the suburbs of philadelphia. how much longer during these covid times can you continue to sort of strategy where you get in your car and you're driving you go somewhere and then go back home again, what you think about that? >> two things. i think you are missing a critical trip he made to houston to be with the family of george floyd. but yes, the speech as he is given recently were in scranton, lancaster, wilmington. what i think matters is that he is putting out bold and strong ideas that help the american people assess that he is ready to lead, that he will put us on a stronger footing both here at home and around the world and frankly, tens of millions of

americans are having the same experience. i'm campaigning for reelection here in delaware, and the vast majority of what i'm able to do here i'm doing virtually by zoom meetings whether it's connecting with teachers and school leaders or it's listening to small business owners or its connecting with constituents. the reality of a pandemic frankly is that many of our elected leaders at the city county, state, and federal levels are conducting their leadership by zoom, remotely. so i don't think it shows that his campaign is in any way failing to meet the moment. what matters is his ideas are strong ones. >> bill: at some strange times, i agree with you. thank you for coming on today and we will continue the conversation very soon. thank you, sir. want to bring in some analysis, karl rove served as white house deputy chief of staff under president george bush, fox news contributor, doing his own zoom chats, how are you doing? good afternoon to you. listening to senator coons,

watching joe biden last hour, et cetera, et cetera. i see a poll here, real clear average in texas is 45-45. i don't know if you buy into that or not, but what is the state of the race 110 some days out? >> today, donald trump is behind and joe biden is ahead in states like texas were won by donald trump by nine points are close and as you pointed out, don't have much of a campaign going on now and as we get into the campaign, those numbers will change. take the issue he talked about with climate. senator coons talked about being a member of the climate caucus, that caucus has not endorsed the immediate end of fracking as joe biden is. is going to affect a lot of jobs in texas. that caucus has not called for what joe biden called for which is a zero emission power grid in 15 years. that means no natural gas. what about all that natural gas production in pennsylvania and texas and elsewhere and what about all those brand-new shiny

natural gas power plants that are not only lowering of the greenhouse gas emissions but also lowering the cost of electricity? those will be gone in 15 years. so what about those hundreds of thousands of jobs, what about those hundreds of billions of dollars that will be wiped out by this rather dramatic plan that even senator coons with all his good intentions as a member of a caucus that hasn't endorsed any one of those ideas. >> bill: you see the peace that went to the electoral map across the country, zigzagged here and there, thinking that biden is up in michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin and they are making the case that texas as i mentioned, missouri, ohio, and georgia are in play. are they right about that? >> no, i don't agree with that. i do agree pennsylvania, wisconsin, florida, north carolina, arizona, all of those are in play. i think texas is close today but i don't think it will be closed by the end of the campaign. i think ohio is more red, the

latest polls i've seen they're showing nearly a ten-point lead for trump, i don't think missouri is going to be in play. but this is going to be a tight election, you bet. win or lose, whoever wins, they are more likely to win by a modest amount rather than a big amount. looks big today for a biden but we are 112 days away from the election and we have yet to begin in earnest and particularly with the laying out of these plans last week on the economy and today and on these six major issue clusters that biden did 110 page report and then today on the claimant, he starting to get a lot of points of contrast that the trump campaign is smart, they will jump on. >> bill: got about 30 seconds left, go back to the original point i was asking about the way these campaigns are being conducted. how do you forecast the next four months, what happens in milwaukee with the dnc, what happens in charlotte/jacksonville with the rnc, what goes on?

>> that's going to be the first interesting touch point because the traditional festivals that we call political conventions whether inundated by donors and activists and interest groups and tens of thousands of people, 50,000 people were anticipated to be rolling around in milwaukee for the democratic national convention. that's not going to happen so the question is, how could these organizers, democrats and republicans strengthen the use of the most important evening, the acceptance of the party's nomination which is traditionally the point at which a candidate has laid out his platform and his program and people pay attention to it, how do they structure that? before we had television, we had those moments. you would nominate a candidate, and then several weeks later, they would receive the formal notification and when they did so, they would make a speech that laid out the general election and they would do so at their home or their home city, be modest in nature, but they are going to have to find a way between what we used to do way back then and what we used to do or not so long ago to still get the candidates a chance.

>> bill: i think it is so interesting. conventions are one thing but what about september and october? we are really treading space we have never been before. when you come back, we will continue that conversation. >> i've got an answer. >> bill: and ten seconds? >> we are going to see more of what we saw today, biden will go out and give a speech to a camera and trump will go out and give a speech to a camera. not large crowds, big rallies and less tdies off in septembere going to have dueling news conferences and dueling speeches that are the emphasis of the candidates. biden is going to want to do speeches, will want to do speeches and news conferences. he probably would be better to follow biden. >> bill: really interesting. thank you, see you on zoom. he or not, i see. i caught it. he's not. in a moment here, new outrage after an arrested man attacks in new york city police officer.

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>> bill: and no charges filed yet against a man accused of putting a new york city police officer and a headlock, happens on the 1st of july. the officer needed staples in his head bear the suspect later turned himself in and it was released but the d.a. in the bronx is now investigating that incident. meanwhile, a new report from 65 police officers have been killed in the line of duty on the first half of the year. there are concerns that number

could go higher. has that story from the streets of new york city. >> let's talk about those numbers as about 14% so far this, but coronavirus could change all of that. let's take a look at the numbers here according to that same report, 65 officers killed in the line of duty in the first half of this year, 27 died in gun related incidents, 26 killed in traffic related incidents and 12 died because of job related illnesses. this comes as officers are facing growing antipolice sentiments biking crime in cities like new york and chicago and of course the dangers of their jobs. a washington state police officer just killed monday night after making a traffic stop and to code exits officers killed in the line of duty over the weekend while responding to a domestic disturbance. listen to this, five officer deaths so far have confirmed to be covid related but 53 more are pending. that's a big number and if those are confirmed, we are looking at

a 55% jump in deaths from this time last year and what that means is coronavirus will become the leading cause of officer fatality so far this year across the nation. that's incredible. >> bill: stayed with me here for a moment, want to show a cover of our corporate code cou, that little boy shot and killed at a cookout. back to you for more on what we are trying to learn about this now. >> tragic story here in new york city. unfortunately, no one has been arrested. the father of that child, a grandmother sharing their pain and frustration and anger with fox news on sean hannity last night. take a listen. >> the cowards that did this, you should be ashamed of yourselves because everybody talks about black lives matter, what about baby lives? >> the communities are getting worse and worse. nobody's doing anything about

it. nobody. nobody's trying to to make a change. >> gun violence now bleeding into the weekday. we saw a lot of crime last nig night. the nypd chief said disbanding the anti-crime unit was a huge blow for getting illegal guns off the streets, but the mayor will not say if that is directly correlated with this recent spike in of gun. >> bill: today in manhattan, thank you. "new york times" opinion writer and editor resigning calling the workplace culture "hostile to certain staffers" including her. howie kurtz digs in on that coming up next. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime.

>> bill: this was a bit of a stunner today. resigning from the paper claiming her coworkers bullied her. and at the paper gives into online criticism. the host of media buzz on the story.

he read her letter. it is scathing. what happened here? >> what happened here is a very big deal for journalism. talking about being bullied by her colleagues called a racist,, liar by people who work at the news. what she calls a hostile work atmosphere. here timmy is the key. she was an editor brought into different points of view. she talks about self-censorship. it was hard for her to get anything that wasn't a liberal piece published. our fourth thousandth op-ed. >> bill: here's another line. "twitter is not on the mass of "the new york times." twitter has become its ultimate editor. those of the paper. the paper itself is increasingly become a kind of performance space. stories are chosen to satisfy the narrowest of audiences.

what do you take from that perhaps from social pressure? >> using the phrase, this doesn't just apply to "the new york times." every news organization worries about the online backlash or it could cost somebody their job. it has happened recently at the times with a former editorial page. when she talks about intolerance and a liberal newsroom culture, only one point of view with twitter being the enforcer, that is pretty chilling staff for anyone that cares about free expression. >> bill: mutual respect is required of all. i don't know a lot of people who saw this coming. did you? >> i did not. as well-known as an intellectual in the business. she's not a down the line a lockstep liberal. she was hired for "the wall street journal" to bring another point of view appeared she says the atmosphere

is such that she can't. i think this is resonating because her words as an insider resonate more than any outside critic it say about the culture now. >> bill: is nice to see you again. we are out of time. 5:00 press conference at the white house. here is neil. >> neil: glasses delayed in los angeles, and san diego and atlanta of the push to reopen for in person classes pushed back in those locales. others consider similarly following developments in north carolina where we are told that schools will reopen in the fall. but with some caveats. also following developments and a host of other states that are playing kind of loosey-goosey with this mix of in person classes virtual classes. bottom line the president says that he wants to see all schools reopen in the fall. it is now