breaking news about weight couldn't get to it. thoughts over carnegie mellon to be a senior fellow there. is that they are right or simply because he worked for donald trump? not so fair and not so balanced tomorrow. here's "the five." ♪ >> juan: hello, everyone, i'm on williams along with dana perino, jesse walters, dan bongino and emily compagno. it's 5:00 and this is t to "the five." president trump promising a big crackdown on violence in cities and that comes as he's picking up the endorsement of a top police organization. the group had previously supported president obama and joe biden. all that happening while the person seen here attacking new york city police was arrested. the new york city police top

uniformed officer among the four injured. he hears what he just told neil cavuto. >> there is a lot of animosity towards the police and we are stealing it not just in the protests when these anarchists take over but on the streets. on the street corners there is a feeling that they don't have to listen to the police and of that they are willing to fight the police officers. we need our electives throughout the entire city to stand up and say that they support our poli police. >> juan: the head of the department of homeland security now accusing politicians in portland, oregon, enabling "violent anarchists, authorities using tear gas to set up a shop-like autonomy zone. this is obvious that part of the president strategy, the national organization of police announced their endorsement of

president trump on shannon bream show last night. the president recently said, the police are not being treated fairly in this country. i noted that two-thirds of americans say police violence against the public is a serious problem. so is a president out of sync with the public on this issue? >> jesse: no, i think the media is out of sync. i think the public when you ask them, what is a bigger problem, a homicide or police being too aggressive every once in a while, i think they will go with homicide. i think everyone around this table agrees that i'm the most objective person here so what i want to do is i want to look -- what's so funny? i want to look at this antipolice movement objectively. so it's been a month and a half since george floyd tragically died. what are the tangible results of the movement? let's judge the results here specifically. homicides are up everywhere.

hundreds of people have been injured, police officers included. people are fleeing cities and buying weapons, covid-19 was spread, cancel culture got out of control. there had been at least 20 people killed in the riots as a result of this, so what were the accomplishments? because democrats blocked police reform. the statue is toppled, the redskins change their name, someone resigned from "the new york times" early? is that what the blm movement gave birth to, is that really yet? at this point you have to say to yourself, if this movement objectively -- has it been a blast? because i don't think this move in opinion -- you can't quantify that at a pole because i don't even believe some of the polls about what people think about police or the black lives matter movement. i'm talking about action. the action has been tragic. there has been a move towards

anarchy and fear and violence, not towards unity and peace as a result of this. so all the people that stoked these fires, the elite people in the media or the elected politicians, they need to look themselves in the mirror and say, am i proud of what this has accomplished? am i satisfied with the result of this movement? because i think it's just -- people are now picking up the pieces as a result of this. another four years later in the next election, we will do this all over again. people are hurting. so i don't see this as a positive movement at this point, i think people are hurt and scared now. >> juan: okay. dana, let's pick up on what jesse is talking about because the president said in an interview this week with cbs that more white people are killed by police and black people and i think that's true in absolute numbers. but of course, blacks are a smaller percentage of the

population and his critics are pointing out that blacks are more likely to be shot and killed by police than whites. so why is the president not showing any sensitivity to that side of the argument? >> dana: you know, he has done a lot of interviews this week where he has been asked things that were not having to do with coronavirus or the economic condition of the country. on this one i think part of it is just knowing how to read the room a little bit, the room being the country. it's not that he was factually inaccurate but there is room here for empathy and he has shown that. at the same time he is looking at his home city of new york, going through horrific violence, police officers feeling completely demoralized. you had the actual police chief be injured in this, he has a crime spiking his way up and then you have the fact that you defunded a billion dollars from that police department,

disbanded the anti-crime unit and they put forward a piece of legislation that maybe dan can explain a little bit more. but it basically says that the police officers are not allowed to touch a suspect, if they are under arrest, anywhere on the torso which basically means you are not able to arrest. so the crime will continue to go up. i think those are the two things i could maybe be turned around pretty quickly if the nypd was willing to do that. i also feel like when you talk about law and order, people are concerned about that. it's not something that you can deal with in new york city, it is nationwide that every single city is dealing with us everywhere. i do know how this works. this starts to pop up in other cities and migrates other places. it took years to get us to the place where we had a safe city in new york and it took just a couple of weeks to destroy that

unless someone doesn't pretty quickly. >> so we have seen an increase in gun sales now after the march that followed george floyd's death. and of course people are saying some of this as a result of racial anxiety, fear that they will be more racial unrest or may be racial violence. so is a racial concern behind the spike in gun purchases? >> no one is saying that, only the liberal nuts are needing that. people are buying guns because they don't feel safe. adding some racial connotation to it that nobody has any evidence of whatsoever is just liberal nut bags. that's not a real thing that people are saying just to be clear. and it's kind of rational. when you say? if you are watching our community be burned to the ground and your store be burned to the ground, people attacking innocent victims with canes while the police are hamstrung and not able to respond, what would you do?

it would be irrational to not defend yourself. secondly, i think president trump, that's how the segment started. these kind of done asking at this point and he doesn't need the mayor's authority of chicago and new york to go in and enforce federal crimes. he's tried to work with him, tried to play nice but they are not interested. they are interested in promoting chaos. he could send in the fbi, secret service, atf, you name it for a task force tomorrow. i think he's done asking and i applaud them. i've heard a lot of commentary by liberals on cable news and radio. the first step here is acknowledging a problem and if i hear one more person say there isn't a crime wave or some kind of figments of our imagination, or it's just due to the hot summer, i will just lose my mind. that's absolutely not true. it is the tangible result of pulling anti-crime officers off the street, bail reform and

losing broken policing in favor of bail reform. the evidence is everywhere and anyone ignoring that look silly, i'm very sorry. >> juan: i disagree with you but we will talk about that later. he says president trump is being unfair to her when he says that she wants to dismantle america because she says we want to call for police and call for better schools, housing, health care and jobs. do you think she has a point? she 100% stands for the destruction of america. but i want to focus on something else for a moment. i want to echoed jesse and dan's point along with the nypd chiefs point which is of violence and destruction have been totally emboldened by the

ineffectiveness of these local leaders. i wanted to show support, and we deliver dinner to the north precinct. and hearing their stories and that their concerns and witnessing their low morale was so distressing. our small gesture had the biggest impact on them because these guys are flying so low. they are also mourning the loss of an officer that was shot and killed to death, jonathan shoop, on monday night. they are questioning whether their community supports them, and the common thread all night and the conversations that we had with them was that this time is so different. they have seen it all. we have seen violence and vitriol an end. and we are talking about the effectiveness of local leaders.

he let the chops zone destroy that city for weeks. it came to her house, and i had to abandon it. the fact that these guys had to question who supports them and why is heartbreaking to me. >> juan: that's a good story, emily. coming up next, it's a midsummer shake-up. president trump dropping his campaign manager. what that means for the 2020 campaign, straight ahead for you on "the five." ♪ no matter what challenges life throws at you, we're always here to help with fast response and great service and it doesn't stop there we're also here to help look ahead that's why we're helping members catch up by spreading any missed usaa insurance payments over the next twelve months

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♪ >> dana: president trump holding an event at the white house after shaking up his election campaign shot down like a staff. brad parscale is out as campaign manager and taking over the big job is veteran g.o.p. operative bill steffy end. meantime, the president attacking joe biden today. >> our entire economy and our very way of life are threatened by biden's plans to transform our nation and subjugate our communities through the blunt force instrument of federal regulation at a level you haven't even seen yet. you think that was bad, you haven't even seen it yet. they want to go many times what they put you under in the past. a >> dana: that's at the white house. the campaign needed a shot in

the arm, is the campaign personnel changes going to solve that problem? >> i don't know. i think our scale did a great job building an online army, they have better situational awareness, and they are more in touch with their base than joe biden is. so brad will pass the torch to bill and bill is more of a national strategist and more of a national campaign manager but, let's be honest, president trump is his own strategist and probably has pretty good instincts. when he's running for president, and joe biden also got rid of his campaign manager just a few months ago.

it's not that big of a deal. president stays focused on the economy, china and getting this vaccine. >> don't forget cancel culture because that's still a big issue. i do want to read you a little bit of a statement from bill steffy and because he said something i thought was pretty interesting. he's basically saying with 109 days left our goal is clear. to win each day we have left until election day, if we win more days then president trump will be elected. i want to talk to you about how quickly this time could go. and it's been a while. the other point is, will step and has a record of winning races that are against the odds.

and it's pathetic. i think the palace intrigue angle for this is being overplayed, the trump team at chaos, we've heard it all before. i don't think this is a particularly big deal, brad isn't going anywhere, his expertise is digital and he does a fantastic job. i that's what he's doing. the president said it once in a press conference, dana, it's one -- i don't get goose bumps anymore, i ran for office, but

he gave a speech wants and he said it, we will build it again talking about the economy. he said it again and i got goose bumps because i thought yes, that's it, that's the message. we say that we, us, all of us, collectively save ourselves from the dreadful economy. if we can mail that then we can build that again, that optimistic message, i think that will be a pretty good shape. a >> dana: you've talked about how it hamstring small businesses, and the deregulation bush that they had done in the trump administration is at risk if biden were to win. get your thoughts on that type of an economic message from the white house? >> emily: i think it specifically important for him

to weigh in on covert policies and regulations. it's important for leadership to set regulations that are business friendly. so going into 2016, just regulations in general hamstring the average company all the time. but it's even more crucial. if he dovetails at message in as dan pointed all of us >> dana: jen o'malley dillon put out a campaign with some numbers and they have a lot more cash on hand of than they had before. as i understand it they sort of flew off the that this late, by three months

out basically to the election, you don't fire your campaign manager if things are going well. but we saw yesterday in the polling was nbc had biden up by 11, quinnipiac had him up by 15. that's a pretty big margin. so i think people are finally up inside the campaign. that's what we've seen with the reality. brad parscale is a nice guy, and jesse said this, i think this is about the candidates, it's about donald trump. trump is of running a rerun, no vision and no answer, especially no answer in terms of coronavirus. he has bad numbers in terms of handling of the number one issue on the

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because it's always, time for care. ♪ >> jesse: president trump pushing back after he went after a task force member in an op-ed entitled "anthony fauci has been wrong about everything i've interacted with him on. despite that he and the president says he and dr. fauci have a good relationship. meanwhile, dr. fauci appearing on the digital cover of "in style" saying he and trump are on good terms. he also defended his credibility. >> i believe for the most part you can trust respected medical authorities and i believe i am one of them so i think you can trust me but i would stick with

respective medical authorities who have a track record of telling the truth. >> jesse: all right dan, fauci looks very comfortable with his legs crossed by the pool. very jealous of that relaxation but i'm here on "the five." he's not an evil guy, he's a very smart individual but he has been wrong. he downplayed the virus in the beginning and he was wrong about the travel ban and the masks and hydroxychloroquine. is it not okay to criticize someone at home? spots before anyone in the public will be criticized, and i'm not sure the magazine cover was necessarily the best idea. maybe the journal of "the american medical association" cover would have been a little bit more suited to the times. but here's the problem i see, and it's not personal, i'm not here to pile on dr. fauci, he

certainly has far more medical expertise than i do. this is a multifactorial problem here, but there are a number of factors. it's not just a virus. you have the hold hammer-nail analogy. when you are a hammer everything looks like a nail. everything is seen through the lens of the problem of the virus and that's good, i'm glad we have the expertise and in the triage of our needs that's at the top. but that's not only are concerned. we can't have people just spouting off in the white house saying, you know what, a lockdown might be a good idea. that has a real effect on people, it's not a joke. you can't just recommend a lockdown haphazardly and say, we can shutdown the virus. while you could also shutdown the hospital treating the virus, did you think any of this through? what about our food supply? did anyone think of that? that's a problem with placing too much faith on any one doctor

or otherwise. >> jesse: and it dana, obviously presidents can listen to lots of advice from lots of people come they don't have to tailor everything someone tells them and follow everything willy-nilly. it's like the president doesn't just listen to the joint chiefs of staff and tell him everything they tell him to do, he gets a wide variety of opinions and makes that decision. >> dana: i think the attacks on fauci have been one of the things that is just mind-boggling. here's the thing, even fauci himself said it, repeatedly, i'm just a guy that has one opinion. i am not the person who has to make the big decisions on all the different things. i'm just this guy. this is somebody who has a credibility factor that is way far and above what anyone else is having, whether you like it or not. so then you have people that were like, he was wrong on all of these things and keep repeating it, than the president after this week is constantly backtracking. actually i have a good relationship, actually i'm going to call him.

actually peter navarro is wrong. if you are a young person that you want to understand, how do you develop gravitas? dr. fauci is someone you could look too because he's accomplished, he's incredible, he is willing to push back and defend himself but in a way that has protected his relationship with the president. that is skillful. i think we should all be grateful that this person is still willing to help all of us face these things. from his perspective, and again, he doesn't have all the answers and he's not the decision-maker. all he is is, informing the president. i'm glad the president called him yesterday because keeping that relationship is important for all of us in the future.

>> jesse: i agree with that beefing with fauci is not the greatest strategy right now. juan williams, fauci came on "waters world" and said if i had the ability to do things differently, i would. >> juan: she's a little more inside right now than even dr. fauci. the president had his social media people mocking fauci, and he's not allowed on tv very much anymore and that's why he's doing things like "right in style." if you can pick that up online and then tv stations pick that up. but the point here is president trump as a president. he is the decider and if he wanted to fire fauci to get him out of here, he could do it. but he didn't want to do that because fauci is very popular with the american people. the american people do trust dr. fauci and think that he is credible and speaks directly to him with good information about this virus. i mean, the big issue the last two days has been at the white house wanted all the hospitals to funnel information

about the virus to them, to the department of health and human services, not to the cdc. they had to reverse that today and say, no, we understand the criticism is so intense that we will politicize the data and it will continue to go to the cdc. but again, that's an illustration of how dangerous it is to play politics with the american people's health. we are worried about this virus. >> jesse: yeah, i don't think they are playing politics with it, i think it's just a different way of doing business. okay, let's finish it up. what do you think? >> emily: i think, this isn't like a football game where we get excited about the competition and we are all like, oh, this is our livelihoods and our lives. so i 100% support the president right now and getting that messaging out that, yes, we are all on the same team. dr. fauci and not in style articles that it's pretty tough to try to get out your messaging and walk a tight rope and everything you say is being

pitted against the president, he said it's very stressful. ultimately we should all look at this as dana said that we are all americans and are learning as we coaches some extent and we should always be able to criticize those in power. but when it's our health and our livelihoods that are at stake, i think it's most important for us to be all on the same team. >> jesse: agreed to, and wear a mask. it can't hurt. >> dana: and a tie. [laughs] >> jesse: don't get too crazy. coming up, twitter serve, cut suffers a massive hack. some say it could have been an inside job. more details, just ahead of. ♪ can my side be firm?

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♪ >> dan: hackers taking over twitter in one of the most

brazen social media attacks yet. joe biden, jeff bezos, and many others in a cryptocurrency scam. reporters indicate it was an inside job with hackers reportedly paying a twitter employee who help them gain access to the account. experts say it could have been worse. emily, before i go to you, just of disclosure, i am one of the owners of a competitor twitter, parlor, so just to be clear there. but are they in some sort of legal trouble for this do you think? >> emily: there might be, there is always legal exposure. this was a pretty minor example frankly, but it just goes to show that, yes, hacking can absolutely bring down planes and power grids and people and it's frightening. i think moving forward it's important for people, to come to understand that the death by drips that's happening, just by using all of these devices, our data is being utilized and sold

and to me there is no such thing as privacy or security. it's not a question of if, it's just a question of when. >> dan: juan, this was pretty serious, can you imagine if they hacked into your account and set on voting trump 2020 or something like that, your audience would be like, what happened? >> emily: we would know it was hacked. [laughter] >> juan: you know, i've got to say, i think this is serious. i know we are laughing but this is a serious event that's worthy of fbi and congressional investigation, because picking up on what emily said about taking down airplanes or the grid, how about the stock market? how about an election, you could start a war, and that the global catastrophe. for me, this is the latest example of how social media, big tech in general is really

begging for regulation. begging for someone to get involved and say here are the rules of the road. because right now predict, and competence, whatever, they seem to be running blind and they are running over us. >> dan: i think the greediest people are in government, and that's what worries me. but they could have posted to president trump's account some devastating national security mass and cause a real situation. >> jesse: juan is not wrong, dan. >> never admit that, he's going to get all cocky now. [laughs] in my opinion this was the dumbest hack of all time, to get some bit coin money. if you really want to make money, say something that tanks stocks and then place a bet and cleanup. these guys obviously need to hire better i.t. people. maybe not the guys from the dnc, but i'm sure there are some i.t.

people that could make something impenetrable, as emily said. they should probably start worrying about banning hackers instead of conservatives. their priorities are all sorts of messed up. when these things happen i thought to myself, only the important people are being packed so i almost wanted to tweak the exact same thing about that coin just to make myself seem important, like i got hacked. and then i thought, maybe fox may not like that, so i didn't. but at this point i only look at twitter twice a day, when i wake up in the morning to see the news and then write at 6:00 to see if i've said anything offensive that has gone viral. [laughter] right now twitter is so tedious, it's like real housewives, everyone is jockeying for attention. your account is great, dan, dana, i love your account. everyone's account is good on the show, even got felled.

>> dan: the blocked out the blue checkmarks yesterday to clean up the problem and america suffered withdrawals. [laughs] >> dana: i've made up for it this morning because those pictures were just impossible not to put up there. and of the thing about juan, even when he's right, he still juan. >> juan: thank you. [laughs] >> dana: is one of my concerns. that company is saying it wasn't someone from inside that gave access, and we will see. what i'm concerned about is whoever it was, that this was a dry run for something much more serious. and so that's why i think the fbi has to be involved immediately, this is a public safety issue at this point. >> dan: if that's interesting. coming up next, cnn attacks president trump after his latest

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♪ >> emily: welcome back. the world called for a boycott of goya foods calling for

president trump and his daughter a bunker to post on social media. >> you tell me how a president in the middle of a pandemic has time for this leap. are you kidding me? i don't care who it is. this is what he's resolute about. >> we are in a public battle for our lives and our future and the president is sitting behind the resolute desk resolutely clutching at beans. >> emily: dan bongino, why is it so impossible for the president to focus on the real issue? >> dan: they are the main stream media. i'm surprised he's not doing tricep curls at his desk. these liberal boycotts are always an embarrassing failure. remember the chick-fil-a boycott, you could get a chicken sandwich for 47 square miles in my neighborhood after the alleged boycott, you can't find a black beans can anywhere in my

local neighborhood after the so-called boycott. but there's a reason and it's because liberals who allegedly boycott this sit in their jobs anbasement and have no jobs and watch teletubbies all day so they have no buying power. so things boycotts are always a hilarious bust and they are kind of fun to watch these idiots implode. >> emily: dana, what are the larger consequences here? >> dana: well, it depends. it's possible as dan says that gioia could become the new chick-fil-a and so cows everywhere will continue to be happy. but i do think that there's a possibility here that after the election, after this is no longer useful to anybody politically that there are long-term possible consequences for the company that has 4,000 employees, so there is doubt. the other thing is, i do think that there is a company that has

done an incredible charitable work for latinos, especially in the time of the pandemic, making sure that they were out there providing food and whatever else was needed in the latino community, very, very much focused on that. when the liberals and these other liberal groups because it's 100% latinos on the goya board. so people are trying to make political hay out of it and you have to understand or could be long-term consequences but those on the left trying to hurt goya, they are actually just biting off their nose to spite their face. >> emily: juan, i had the pleasure of interviewing the goya ceo on fox & friends and he

shared with me that when michelle obama, then first lady, invited him to the white house to work with her, he accepted. he also accepted the trump administration's invitation to join the white house. why is accepting the office of the presidency such a deal breaker for the democrats? >> juan: i don't think it's just democrats, i think it specifically latinos and mexican americans who feel the president has attacked immigrants from mexico. demeaned of them, blocked them, called them names. i think there is a reason. but in this instance, why is it that owning the lives and culture wars is more important than anything to the president? why is it more important than dealing with the pandemic? i don't get it. i think putting those cans there, holding a can of beans like he is the king of the world, i mean, it seems to me like it's misplaced priorities

in this pandemic. >> emily: what are your thoughts? >> jesse: trump is defending mexican food. really, cnn is upset about that? cnn said they hate mexicans and now he's defending mexican food? and liberals are the ones defending mexican food. it's up and down, you can't make sense of it. >> juan: all right guys, stay with us. "one more thing" is up next. musical mystical by setting up virtual monitoring for chronic patients, 24-hour telemedicine visits, and mental health resources for everyone. we're always here to help you focus on your health. because it's always, time for care. ♪ i appreciate what makes each person unique.

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they're very aggressive and the males especially. if so, i don't know about you guys but i'm really triggered by this fish. [laughter] >> juan: wow. that's interesting. they know. >> dana: seems like he had a good dentist too. if i want to talk to you about a baby and a big dog. check out nicholas, one year old, he has a family dog is named odin. at 140 pounds of newfoundland and his parents say that odin thinks this little guy is his baby so he protects him and makes sure that he's okay. in fact, nicholas is first words were wuff wuff. talk about all sorts of things, like when i had the podcast i was over caffeinated and so listen at one point. >> emily: nice.

>> juan: going fast. you heard of searching for pirates treasure, how about searching for a treasure hid by michigan and that's johnny perry a jeweler in washington township michigan and he buried $1 million worth of precious metal and gems in the state. he hated and waterfalls, streams, in the woods and put a gps device on every treasure to keep track of it. the first hunt begins august 1st and then people will be looking for to 100-pound silver bars. they are worth $40,200. you guys coming with me? >> dan: i'm right behind you. >> dana: that sounds awesome. right behind you. >> juan: dan, you are out. >> dan: vancouver couple, they took the plunge into marriage and into the lake too. laura and jordan decided they

will take a photo into a little dance move and they see that little dip on the dock. yeah, we know where this is going. very dramatic and so dramatic they fell into the water. all in good spirits and they emerged from the water and went back to the party and everybody is wondering why you're all wet and while we fell in the water and got right back to business. good for them, classic photo, you're famous on the vine so good for you and good luck. >> juan: emily, you are out. >> emily: all right, guys, remember the "golden girls?" >> just breathtaking. >> i know. [laughter] you should have come from the outside. >> emily: you guys come out houses for sale and the show in miami the house itself is in brentwood and l.a. we can pour in money and buy it for $3 million. i would go on a treasure hunt with you if you go and buy this

house with me. what do you say? >> juan: that's a beautiful house and everybody will love it. that's it for us, "special report" is up next. hey, do you remember golden girls? >> bret: sophia was my favorite. thank you. good evening, welcome to washington i'm bret baier and breaking tonight and change at the top of president trump's campaign team with the trailing joe biden and national state polls. he's replacing campaign manager brad parscale with his bill steffy in the field director of the 2016 trump campaign and former senior aide to new jersey governor chris christie. the abrupt move took several by surprise and the campaign and this is the president tries to draw contrast with the presumptive democratic nominee. kristin fisher starts a soft live on the north line of the white house. >> good evening and we have a taste of what campaigning may