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thanks to the entire hannity team. that's all the time we have left this evening and thanks to sean for letting me sit in this chair. i will see you next time, i'm tammy bruce here for sean hannity, have a great weekend everyone. ♪ >> laura: i'm laura ingraham and this is a special edition of "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. georgia governor brian kemp has come under huge fire for suing localities in his own state over mandating their own covid-19 rules. he is here to respond to them. it also tonight, raymond arroyo digs into biden's latest mask add, and anthony fauci on the catwalk. first period of there is no getting around that, according to most polls, president trump is running behind joe biden.
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on the economy, the new nbc "wall street journal" poll gave trump record high marks on the issue. the story of the moment however is cobit dominating everywhere and it's where voters favor biden. that shouldn't be the case and to tell if you will have hit us. the issues at hand are right in trump's wheelhouse. number one, the virus came from china. trump has been a greater hawk on china than any president in my lifetime and his ban on travel without a doubt saved thousands of lives. number two. when ppe, and ventilators mobile hospitals were needed, trump marshaled both the government and private companies and they delivered in rapid speed and historic fashion. to get out of this mess, we are going to need an unprecedented economic revival, an issue as we noted above trump dominates.
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continue to hold firm on all three and remind americans that you're going to put them first. joining me now is the sara carter, fox news contributor and host of the sara carter show podcast and also laura logan on fox nation and cofounder and president of real clear politics. tom, does president trump have the potential to turn voters opinions around on just that issue of handling cobit? covid-19? 's approval rating was positive, over 50% approval in positive territory but he's had a steady and slow decline over the past few weeks to the point where he's at his lowest point under 40%. i'm not sure what he's lost, a little bit of republicans but mostly independence, democrats were never with him in the first
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place, they've never approved of his handling of anything let alone covid-19. i don't think they've tuned him out yet on his issue of his handling of covid-19. >> laura: restaurant tours are having a hard time, they are getting mixed signals, open, close, 75%, 50%, virginia is doing pretty well on the covid front but they get a sense at any moment the rug is going to be pulled out from under them. one to set begin to turn a bit in the president's favor, when he says we got to move on with life and take sensible measures at the same time? >> you brought up a great point and that is the administratio administration -- that's up to the administration to make that message clear and make sure that narrative sticks that there isn't any back and forth. think about what president trump has already done.
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he has cut back over 25,000 pages of regulations that brought small businesses back booming in america when covid finally comes down -- and we are in the recovery process -- at the very big thinks of this, we need a president that is going to reinvigorate the economy, bring back business, that will include deregulation, that will include pushing the economy forward, we aren't going to see that from vice president biden at all. in fact he has announced a $2 trillion climate policy plan that's going to initiate a bundle of regulations and really squeeze the small business owner and the workforce, that is the restaurant tours that you're talking about. these are the people, the american's purchase of the true effect that's this i believe this is the glass half full
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situation, if the president sticks to the message of the american people that he delivered in 2016 he will clench this. >> laura: if you want to be locked in, vote for biden. the displayed biden's decline and no real campaign, the media are fawning all over him, watch. >> this afternoon, a blistering indictment trump from joe biden. he actually focuses his message, focuses his empathy, focuses the fact that he knows what he's talking about. >> he's frustrated he cannot find an effective frame for joe biden. this is a nightmare candidate for him. >> laura: how big of a problem is it that we don't have any semblance of an objective press less than four months out of a presidential election? >> these are all the same people
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who predicted trump would lose the election in 2016 and that since then only gotten worse. many people say why won't you just come out and admit they really are not objective in any way and they just hate this president and they will do anything to stop him being reelected. that's very obvious to most people. you always wonder with these polls, why anyone is listening to the polls because they were all wrong last time and also many people that i speak to paid no attention to them. the one question they say the polls aren't asking is how many people are -- how many lives is it costing to save each person on this virus? that's the question that really resonates with people all over this country. it's all people are talking about from morning to night, they don't trust the numbers, they don't trust the cdc, they
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take the virus very seriously and it should not be mistaken for people being skeptics or doubters or doubting the severity of the illness that results from this virus, it's not that at all. what they see is people being geographically isolated, the response to the virus is becoming increasingly political and the impact that it's having on the election makes people nervous. restrictions on gathering indoors and social distancing, and people are increasingly concerned about suicide rates, the costs too many children, your home isn't safe at all. people are really rebelling against what they see as a form of control, political control which goes hand-in-hand --
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>> laura: it's a healthy skepticism and the polls, in 2016, clinton held a lead of double digit points over donald trump at the time. i want to go one step further and go back to what we talked about quickly. the lockdowns, how popular will they be when they start rolling back into effect and do you sense it's coming in a number of states. there is a crescendo building in the media among some politicos, check it out. >> i think a strong argument can be made for mitigation efforts, even shutting down for a few weeks. >> it's going to necessitate more lockdowns. >> statewide shutdown, shelter in place. >> this is what they are going on, will this be popular octobek down before an election? >> people aren't very concerned about the virus and they want at
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the same time -- there are economic trade-offs that we've seen with the unemployment rate. what this plays into is the issue of schools, there could be a divide between donald trump and the republicans wanted to reopen schools and some of the democrats and blue states mayors and governors who are saying, agreeing with the teachers union and saying we need to go online. there was a pull out this week saying 74% of people say the most important think of the top priority for the government should be reopening school safely, it will outpaces business, churches, any of that stuff. parents are worried about this, it has an economic component. they can't get kids back in school, it's top of mind for voters and that in combination with an economic lockdown, it will be a pretty stark divide between president trump and joe biden. >> laura: i think it's going
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to be liberty versus lockdown, i think it's going to be the the theme. really quickly my nancy pelosi today was yearning for something, i want to show you. >> we are in a critical place. i yearn for other republican presidents. while we may have disagreed on many points, at least we had shared commitment to the governance of our country. >> laura: she yearns for other republicans. >> right. she yearned for the old establishment, that's what this is all about. the fight is not even so much with president trump. it's a fight with the american people. they don't want the american people disrupting what they had to come of that stability, that establishment, the ability to do whatever they want without question. now we are holding them accountable and that what this presidency was all about. it was about holding washington
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accountable and the cleaning out the swamp. the american people still want that. they need that. but what they need is the administration to stand up, to deliver that message to stay strong on that message, and to let people know that we haven't given up this fight, we are out here every single day, we aren't going to let it happen. tom brought up a great point. we want to see our children back in school and we want some normalcy back in our lives and that's what's going to take this election in november. >> laura: real quick, on the idea of yearning for the past -- in 2008, i'm sure you remember this when george w. bush gave a speech in israel and was referencing -- i'm summarizing -- aiding and abetting terrorists with the lingo of barack obama or something like that, she said "the comments were beneath the dignity of the office." they were strafing at
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george w. bush in 2008 and now we are yearning for other republican presidents, i don't know what she's talking about. >> it's interesting because nancy pelosi now has some strong allies on the right. there's a vocal minority who are just as vicious about president trump as the democra democrats. a lot of people i've spoken to say that's because when the president does something like space force, taking a program that was classified four years and putting it into the light, that's trillions of dollars in dark money that is now in the light. that's draining the swamp financially in a massive way. most people don't pay any attention to this, it means people on the left in the right, the establishment that sarah was talking about, those people have lost a lot of their advantage that they had to. that's where the ordinary person says donald trump is a president of change. they never wanted him to be seen as a president of change, if you
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go back to the propaganda from the very moment that he won the election, it was "this presidency is not about change." that tells you that's exactly what it's about. one of the disturbing things that people have raised with me as all the talk about trump not going to leave office and won't hand over the nuclear codes, what are they setting the conditions for exactly? if there is any dispute over mail in ballots or voter fraud or any of those states are giving all of their vote to the popular vote winner nationwide and not given their electoral college votes, if there's any dispute over that, are they going to say we told you he wasn't going to leave office? >> laura: they don't want anyone to question them, you're exactly right. any irregularities, you're questioning the results of an election, you got to get out. we hope the military will help throw him out of the white house. a fascinating conversation, thank you so much.
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>> laura: while some governors are using the covid crisis to grab more power and undermine their citizens constitutional rights, my next guest is among those trying to preserve liberty while also saving lives and is taking on officials in his own state to do it. georgia governor brian kemp is suing the city of atlanta for mandating masks but mainly for going back into lockdown. this morning, atlanta's mayor responds. >> it is mind-boggling that this governor wastes resources on suing me personally for mask mandates and voluntary business recommendations and guidelines. it is very clear that he is putting politics over people, it is a distraction from what the real enemy is. >> laura: governor kemp joins me now, it's great to see you. what is your response to the mayor? >> let me tell you what's really
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going on in georgia. i'm working very hard every day and have been for a long time now to protect the lives as well as the livelihoods of my fellow citizens. however, we have local mayors who are playing politics, they want to go back to shelter in place, they want to stop in person dining, pulling the rug out from under people and i'm not going to allow that to happen. we are fighting two battles here now, one to protect lives but also to protect livelihoods and so i filed a lawsuit to stop them because those orders are in conflict with the statewide order that i have executed. >> laura: there are those who would say if the masks help in 10% of the cases, then why isn't that good enough to say -- you can save some lives, maybe they aren't 100%, isn't that worth
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this ongoing mask mandates and some of these mayors have in place? >> i think a little differently on that. i'm still following the health advice that forty-year epidemiologist, harvard educated, great person, as much experience as anybody in the country -- i don't feel like a mandate is needed for georgians to do the right thing. we have existing orders on the books and this is what is frustrating about a lot of the locals were playing politics with that spirit we have orders on the books that have worked in the past that helped us flatten the curve and stop the spread. they have the ability through my order to use their law enforcement to enforce those orders and they are not doing that. instead of having a government mandate, enforce the orders that we have, make sure businesses are following the rules, people are socially distancing, i've been talking about people wearing a mask as much as
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anybody. for those who do not want to wear a mask if you have a health condition that prevents it or some sort of phobia or anything, just socially distance yourself. if everybody does their part, we'll flatten the curve again, stop the spread and continue to reopen our economy. it's important that we do that, we literally have people who are living paycheck to paycheck, barely getting by in this economic environment -- the amount of mortgages not being paid on time is going up and we are looking at large companies like delta air lines and others, in the future if the economy doesn't rebound, they are going to be forced to start laying people off. we got to keep our economy up and also fight the virus and protect lives and that's what we're doing. >> laura: this is kind of a controversial question, but do you think that there is something else going on here where there is some element within the democratic party who
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think a shutdown, probably would sasave lives, that would pull te brakes on a recovery that is underway before a presidential election. i'm asking that because that's what so many of my viewers are wondering, saying wait a second, we know there are hot spots in dealing with those but you shut this economy down and a lot of states -- we're toast. >> people can't handle it. i wouldn't be able to speak to their politics, it certainly seems like they are trying to undermine our economic recovery. i'm as concerned about the virus as anybody, we are working with our local school leaders and school superintendents to get schools open. i got accosted when i started opening businesses early on by the left, they were making fun of us opening up barbershops and hair salons and now they are saying the guidance that we had,
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having people wear a mask and use ppe and having these rules in place have kept the spread down in our salons and barbershops. it's got to be pandemic politics but i know this -- talking to our hospital ceos, they cannot go through what they did before, they won't be naturally viable, it will bankrupt our hospitals. we've heard from restaurant tours that are like if we have to shut down again, if we have to move away from in person dining, we are out for good. our state can't afford that. >> laura: the university of georgia, are they going to be playing football in the fall? >> i told all the young people including my daughters, they're doing really good job of following guidance most of the time that our young folks need to wear a mask if they are going out and they can't socially distance and they've got to follow the guidance if they want college football this fall. that is like a religion in the south, i want to see it happen,
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it's a huge economic impact but we needed as a society right now. that's what i'm asking everybody for the next four weeks, wear a mask. a socially distance, wash your hands and follow the existing guidance that we have, it will work. >> laura: great to see you tonight, thanks for fighting for small businesses and parents and people who want to go to school, it's inspiring to see. i'm glad you're out there doing it, best of luck to you. speaking of masks, they were the animating feature of dr. fauci's interview with facebook ceo mark zuckerberg. but did fauci hit the mark? here now is -- you heard governor kemp. he said that if young people wear a mask and a socially distance, they will have a better chance of having a football season and going back to college. that's fine, people are going to try to do what they can do but
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we've already exposed the science behind regular cloth mask wearing, not surgical masks, is a little dubious. in this interview we were talking about with mark zuckerberg, fauci strongly recommend mandating masks, including ones that are not medical grade, watch. >> the recommendation was to not to wear a mask because of the shortage of it. two things happened. one, it became there that we had enough equipment, so there was no shortage. it became clear that cloth coverings -- you didn't have to buy in a store, that you can make yourself were adequate. >> laura: that's the rub, is it not? are cloth coverings making people safer and adequate? >> i think the short answer is no. there actually are studies that show that cloth masks are next
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to worthless. there is some question about whether by holding onto those particles, you may be making yourself sick. >> laura: or certainly more susceptible to getting some of these viruses. that vietnamese study, am i getting that right? zuckerberg also asked fauci this question. >> breathing and more carbon dioxide, are there any issues like that? has anything negative been found? >> not at all, there has not been any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for considerable period of time has any deleterious effects on oxygen exchange. >> laura: may be on oxygen, that is correct. >> that's correct for most patients. but there are some patients that are a bit fragile where wearing a mask can be problematic. >> laura: it looks like the concerns we had on the show
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about the accuracy of covid death counts and you have been part of this conversation for months now that were well placed. an investigation by fox orlando is revealing that a victim of a motorcycle accident was labeled as a covid death. >> we are trying to argue not because of the numbers, it doesn't make any difference of its 99. but the validity that he had dying from covid-19, he died in a crash. >> laura: i can't hear what anyone is saying in a mask but how pervasive do you think reporting errors like this are? it's just a one off. >> i don't think it's a one off. what hhs has to do is audit every covid death and every covid diagnosis, remember, we are paying the bonus money to
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patients who are intubated and diagnosed as having covid in the hospital. that's coming to hundreds of millions of dollars. so the american people don't get cheated, these hospitals need to be audited. every single one of them. >> laura: the hydroxychloroquine study that was touted by cnn as showing we told you so, no benefits to hydroxychloroquine -- 15 seconds, why was that junk? >> it's a small study, interestingly underpowered, with you see, and intention to treat a protocol, they had a 60% reduction in mortality. there are much bigger studies that clearly show efficacy in the same population. >> laura: i talked to treating physicians, let them make their own decisions because the drug is very safe. as always, valuable analysis. up ahead, we unmask joe biden's
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♪ >> lie from america's news headquarters, i marianne rafferty. the pentagon rolled out a new policy that bans confederate flags on military property, mars.senior military leaders wee aiming to avoid a dispute with president trump, the president has defended the people's right to display the controversial banner. supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg is once again battling cancer, the 87-year-old revealing today that she's undergoing chemotherapy to treat liver cancer. she said to the treatment is yielding positive results and has no plans to retire, she was hospitalized earlier this week with an infection but says that was unrelated to the cancer.
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she has previously recovered from pancreatic come along, and colon cancer. i marianne rafferty, now back to the ingraham angle. dominic >> laura: it's friday and that means it's time for fry follies. joining us with all the details, raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. biden the least ad this week in texas that was rather peculiar. >> it's clear that his running mate so far it seems be covid-19. but he's all in on wearing masks, mostly. >> this virus is tough but we can stop the spread, wear a mask, we are all in this together. we'll fight this together. i'm joe biden and i approve this message. >> i guess wear a mask except when you meet strangers at a rally in which case you don't have to wear a mask at all.
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i'm stunned that a psa is now a campaign slogan, what's next, don't smoke? wear a seat belt? he seems to be running for surgeon general rather than president. >> laura: they need a bubble wrap between him and all those young women, there needs to be a plexiglas divider between biden and any female person at a rally, you know that arm is coming across, what else? >> you had the goya ceo on after julian castro and aoc and others attempted to boycott his company. this came in response to his appearance at a trump event. the talking heads exploded. >> on your dime, in the middle of a pandemic? they are selling beans, you tell me how a president in the middle of the pandemic has got time for
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this [bleep]. are you kidding me? hawking products? >> in the middle of the pandemic, chris cuomo forgets to remind his viewers what he and his brother were doing during a pandemic. >> this was the actual swab that was being used to fit up that double barrel shotgun that you had mounted on the front of your pretty face. >> do you think your unattractive person now because you're single and ready to mingle? >> i think beauty is in the eye of the beholder. >> laura: don't you miss thos those? >> the cuomo borough show it was a classic. michelle obama in conjunction --
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she openly courts support and promote a number of well-known american brands, goya included. >> laura: she was doing it to help everybody lose weight and get healthy. did we ever do the review on how well the let's move program did? did we reduce obesity? we have more food deserts and we have more obesity but it's a great idea. then joy behar? she was on the view and she extolled the virtues of boycotts. >> we would still have apartheid in south africa now if other countries including the united states did not boycott south africa. boycotts are extremely, extremely effective. >> goya is not enslaving people abroad unlike china and many of these companies that do business. the other thing, the biden folks
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have to be very careful of, we hispanics are now 20% of this population, 60 million. they have to be careful when they boycott a brand like this that is hispanic owned and operated, it has the risk of upsetting a whole lot of your voters. >> laura: if we had joy behar out their lobbying to divest from china, then i would take her a little more seriously. but she's going back to 1984 in divesting from south africa, if you really want to take this where it needs to go, don't focus on the u.s. police department, focus on what's happening in china where they are loading people on trains and taking them to board knows where. this is ridiculous. >> this is a very strange week while the president was being wrapped for posing with beans, dr. fauci was being hailed for posing next to his pool for an
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in style magazine cover. look at this. >> he told the magazine i don't like conflict. >> he conceded his straight talk has rankled white house officials, that really changes week to week and month to month. >> he's done a new interview and people are going it's kind of great. >> nora o'donnell conducted this probing interview, what we learned, his exercise habits and what he eats in the morning. melania trump is still waiting for her in style cover, i'll point that out. >> laura: we talked about this, he did this live interview with mark zuckerberg, a lot of people on the live stream are like is mark zuckerberg trying out for a position on "60 minutes"? tell us about this. people don't want to stay in their lame. >> if they ever do the movie,
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forget brad pitt, i was thinking they should try to find out where ever leigh strasburg, he was in godfather two, he would be the perfect anthony fauci. >> laura: that is genius but that x summation of the body would probably upset the family. will not wait for your in style profile. who in the media are the biggest offenders of the week plus bill barr brave warning to american businesses on china and the disturbing responses he got, it was amazing speech and you can see any of it, will bring it to you people are surprising themselves the moment realize they can du more with less asthma. thanks to dupixent, the add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. dupixent isn't for sudden breathing problems.
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president of accuracy in media, good to see you tonight. let's begin with the mindless rant defending blm protests. >> i don't understand the push back on it it doesn't make any sense when you think about it logically. the protests were outdoors, all of the doctors and health experts say it was the place to hold them, i attended a number of those rallies, everybody was wearing a mask. >> laura: later in the show chuck todd hit back against the guest who called out their own media bias. >> just a reminder for what it's worth, there is no editorial point of view here on any of these newscasts on msnbc in the daytime. >> laura: i didn't even know he said that, he's got to be kidding me.
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>> msnbc denies being an opinion channel, pretends to be a news channel but in reality, they're a comedy channel. you don't need the volume, just look at the chyron's, the headlines on the screen read like something you would see on facebook from your liberal nephew at berkeley. their coverage of black lives matter is hysterically ridiculous, it's great watching for the laughs. >> laura: just the lower third, "donald trump wants kids to die from covid." it's the most inflammatory stuff. up next, msnbc's jason johnson is one of the many commentators peddling this sick conspiracy theory. >> so many of these ballots are coming in by mail, it's going to take weeks. you're going to have militia showing up at vote counting locations threatening people. the president is a protodictator and he will do anything to stay in power. >> laura: i fully expect they
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are going to not expect a win by donald trump on election night, they will find ballots in the back of someone's car somewhere. as far as an militia showing up, why has this become such a prevailing claim on the left? >> think about the history, they haven't accepted a defeat a presidential election in aoc's lifetime. they didn't accept the w defeats, they didn't accept the trump defeat, they are still skeptical about 1988 when they blame the willie horton ad, it's out of control. their talk about violence and militias, that is projection if i've ever seen it's. these are people who don't believe in individualism, don't believe in liberty, they only believe in brute force to advance their means. that's why they're symbol is the fifth. you see them on the ground in seattle, they are armed and carrying weapons, yet they admonish anyone else who exercises their second amendment second amendment rights. >> laura: let's move on to
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this attempt to blame law-abiding gun owners for the recent crime wave. here's the headline from "the washington post." a spike in violent crime follows a rise in gun buying amid social upheaval. a very first line of the article says americans purchase millions more guns thi than usual spurren large part by racial animosity. i guess they interviewed all of these gun owners? how does "the washington post" get away with framing things like this. >> it's ridiculous that they try to pretend gun rights is a racial institution when gun control is the most racist institution. one of our investigative journalist was on the ground and he got to the marxist to say something i totally agree with. he reminded everyone that gun control laws were racist laws, they were created to take gun rights away from freed slaves. if you want to be upset about racist institutions, take down gun control laws and to celebrate gun rights.
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>> laura: whatever we're going to call it, great to see it tonight. and in moments, ag bill barr's devastating to a town of hollywood and big tex cozy relationship with china, i've been waiting for someone to say this. it's one of the most consequential speeches on the subject come in just a moment. stay there.
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>> laura: this did not get nearly the attention it deserved especially considering the importance of the topic. yesterday attorney general bill barr delivered a stark warning on the dangers of further economic and cultural entanglement with communist china. first of the big business interest and globalists pushing for more trade, he had this to say. >> the ultimate ambition of china's rulers isn't to trade with the united states, it is to raid the united states. if you are an american business leader, appeasing the prc may bring short-term rewards, but in the end, their goal is to replace you. >> laura: it was a tour de force. china isn't just looking to control our industries but our cultural institutions as well,
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from universities to the film industry. bar called out these bad actors as well. >> hollywood now regularly sensors its own movies to appease the chinese communist party, the world's most powerful violator of human rights. chinese government censors don't need to say a word because hollywood is doing their work for them. this is a massive propaganda coup for the chinese communist party. >> laura: no wonder no one covered this, it was great. finally, barr took aim at the industry perhaps most submissive to the whims of beijing. >> hollywood is far from alone in kowtowing to the prc. america's big tech companies have also allowed themselves to become pawns of chinese influence. >> laura: wittingly or unwittingly, they are aiding and abetting china's mass surveillance and censorship of its own citizens, not to mention
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the brutal oppression of the uighur muslims. instead of viewing it as a needed wake-up call, shortsighted critics lashed out even going so far as to call barr's speech worse than mccarthyism. be sure to remember the names of those critics. just over a hundred days until the election, the trump administration is clear eyed about the threat of china as the president has been for many decades. don't for a second think the biden presidency will offer anything different than hollywood and big tex complete submission to xi jinping and his communist cronies. have no by-products. [conference phone] baloney! [conference phone] has joined the call. hey baloney here. i thought this was a no by-products call? land o' frost premium. a slice above.
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diversity training given to government employees. we hope someone who can end tha is watching barrett that's all the time we have tonight shanno bream and the fantastic fox new @night team is here. take it away. >> welcome to fox news at night i am shannon bream in washington . we begin tonight with following the aftermath of a violent clashes tonight between police and protesters trying to tear down the christopher columbus statue in chicago's grant park. officers are in the hospital an protesters were injured as well. as stronger federal response to the coronavirus. then coming and committed teams
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