legend his legacy will live on and be a powerful inspiration to many for many many years to come. we send our thoughts and prayers out to his family and to everyone whose lives he personal ly touched. neil: you are looking live at washington d.c., flags flying at half staff today outside the united states capitol and over the white house as well as the nation comes to remember a civil rights icon, john lewis, the 17th term georgia congressman who was there for the selma riots is now dead. dying at 80 he fought a brave battle with pancreatic cancer and now a nation remembers the last living member, the last living speaker from the famous march on washington back in august, 1963 and chad pergram takes a look back at that life and the significance today.

chad? reporter: well good morning, neil. john lewis was an american icon decades before his election to the house in 1986. he was the youngest speaker alongside martin luther king at the lincoln memorial during the march on washington in august 1963 lewis also led various protests in the south sit-ins at restaurants and drug stores protesting segregated lunch counters and president barack obama spoke about how he first met john lewis as a student in law school and lewis at his 2009 inauguration and the former president said he told lewis he never would have become president without the sacrifices he made. although interestingly enough, lewis initially supported hillary clinton's bid for president in 2008 that was much to the dismay of fellow members of the congressional black caucus, and bloody sunday the march from selma to montgomery, alabama in march 1965 helped shape lewis' legacy as lewis head protestsers across the bridge and alabama state troopers beat the future congressman so badly they

cracked his skull and doctors later had to insert a steel plate into lewis' head which he carried to his grave. lewis later led lawmakers on an annual prill grim age across the bridge to commemorate bloody sunday and decades after those sit-ins lewis was still deploying those same tactics practiced years before. after the pulse nightclub shooting in orlando and florida 2016 lewis led a sit-in actually sitting on the carpet on the floor inside the house chamber to protest gun violence. that went on for more than 24 hours, neil, and fox is told that it's possible lewis could lie in state in the capitol rotunda, john lewis was 80 years old, neil? neil: chad thank you very very much. with us right now to reflect on the importance of that life, martin luther king iii, the oldest son of martin luther king jr. who joins us now in atlanta via skype. pastor, thank you very much for taking the time. very sad day, isn't it?

>> it is, it is a sad day. you know it almost feels like a part of history has moved to another dimension and one of the things i might add is in the same day that john lewis transitioned so did dr. c. t. vivian who was also a lieutenant of my father and in one sense they wanted to have their last march together because dr. vivian was 95 years old, stood up to jim clark in se lma, alabama and john lewis walked over the bridge with jose williams and was beaten as we just heard once again profusely and so many things that john lewis has done for our nation and world. neil: you know, pastor, thinking of your dad this day, and of course his his herrizing speech of the march on washington but what a lot of people forget is one of the earlier speakers was this young up and coming john

lewis, and the rumor was that your dad wanted to tone down what was seemingly a more wouldn't call it a militant speech as much as a more in your face speech he was an impair impatient restless young man and your dad said we have to dial this back if we want to work with the jfk administration, and we want to continue building on this progress. it's an interesting footnote on that historic day. >> well it certainly is. john lewis at 23 and dad i guess in his 30s, they were very close , i mean not a huge gap but certainly a gap and i think dad understood how we had to carefully navigate through a very difficult set of circumstances. not the john lewis did not but as always young people are, young people are ready to go, charged up. we see this right now, but we want to see changes right away and the hope is that we will

have those changes but it does take a little bit of time sometimes. neil: you know, congressman lewis was very ill when the george floyd events went down in minneapolis. he was concerned about the restlessness and some of the violence that it triggered across the country as was your own father who saw a lot of that after his tragic assassination and i'm wondering if someone whose in this as a young child yourself dealing with this from an early age, if it just discourages you that we never get past a lot of that. there's been great progress to be sure but that some of the violence that you've addressed in your own life, and your dad's life and congressman lewis' life, they are still part and parcel who we are. what do you think? >> well i think that, you know, first of all, we are a nation

that is unfortunately steeped in violence, and dad used to say that riots are the language of the unheard. while he never condoned violence , i think he understood that when people were pushed to a certain level sometimes they resort to violence, but i think the biggest issue here is the overwhelming number of the demonstrations, the large number were peaceful and that's really where we hope to focus on it's unfortunate that sometimes, it resorts in violence but the non-violence is what we want to promote. john lewis personified non- violence every day of his life, everything that he did. he tried to do in a non-violent way and was inspired by martin luther king jr.. i'm inspired and millions are inspired by john lewis for what he did particularly around voting. we have to think about the fact that this is a 5 fifth anniversary of the voting rights act which does not exist and unfortunately, some people still

their rights are still suppress ed and we have to make voting equal and free and fair for everyone. i think if we want to do a tribute to john lewis it be everyone is counted and everyone can vote in our society i don't think we're there but we're going to get there. neil: you know pastor thinking about that bloody march in selma , within eight days it triggered lindsey graham on johnson to come up with the civil rights act that was later passed after a lot of push and pull in august i believe of that same year, so had there not been that conflict at the bridge and your dad and congressman lewis were involved in we might not have had that civil rights or certainly nearly as quickly. what do you think? >> well yes, oftentimes tension creates change, and certainly

john lewis and jose williams and others marching across the edmond pettus bridge and dad and different religious leaders from the catholic jewish community and others marching across that bridge help help help lyndon johnson say i'm going to sign the voting rights act and dad of course in seeing that shared tears came from his eyes to hear john lewis say and we shall overcome in signing the voting rights act of 1965. neil: you know, you've been very kind to join us today. i just want to get your thoughts on this push right now to remove confederate statues and any symbols of our race's past. some say they go too far others say they don't go far enough, is it back and forth even when it comes to the confederate flag what have you. in light of the passing of john lewis and remembering back on

the anniversary of selma and what was going on all those decades ago, where are you on this? does it distract, is it an important message, to you as a pastor when you preach on issues is this an important enough issue to keep addressing those statues aren't just some statement that there's something bigger? >> so i certainly, let me first say i'm not a minister that's already you refer to me, i'm not offended by that but i'm not a minister. neil: well you are a pastor. >> i'm not a pastor but i do speak all the time, and on that particular issue, i do believe that it's important for from a historical standpoint that history be remembered. i think it belongs in a museum not so much in a place of enlightenment where a memorial is stuck in ones face that something very negative and tragic occurred, so i don't think we just discount the

history. i think the history belongs in museums that's where we learn our history and so i think to remove these vestages i believe is helpful and i'm talking about from a public space where people are supposed to be unified and i think that we have to do both again the history has to be acknowledged and we have to realize that yes we have somewhat of a painful history and heritage but it needs to be captured but it does not need to be captured in a way where you stick something negative in front of someone, a confederate flag for example, that represents something very negative to a number of african americans, that's just my personal view. neil: well you certainly sound like a good pastor, but anyway, i want to thank you, martin luther king jr. it was an honor to have you today and you and your family also a difficult day as well. again, martin luther king iii, the oldest son of martin luther king jr. addressing the sadness and passing of an icon today the

last living speaker from the march on washington back in 1963. john lewis now gone at 80. we'll have more after this.

>> we were beaten, tear gas, some of us was left bloody right here on this bridge, but we never became bitter or hostile. we kept believing that the truth we stood for could help. neil: that was on the 50th anniversary of course of the selma bridge incident in which john lewis was bashed up pretty badly on that day but it did trigger a president at the time to get moving on the civil rights movement eight days later , proposing it to congress and later that summer in august, getting it passed, so from that tragedy, that but violence and

demonstrations continue to this day, in fact these past 24- 48 hours have seen a great deal of it more violence in chicago and portland, and now the latest from the white house, david? reporter: neil good morning to you president trump is at his virginia golf club this morning and even yet to make a sound statement a tweet anything on the passing of civil rights icon former congressman john lewis and now president trump has mentioned john lewis but not in about three and a half years he actually tweeted about him three days before the inauguration in january 2017 specifically, january 17, 2017. we were there this morning though 45 minutes ago, as staff member lowered the flag to half staff on top of the white house. congressman lewis, neil once said he didn't see donald trump as a legitimate president, he boycotted his inauguration and remained a fierce critic of the president's policies. he was seen just weeks ago

across from the white house at blacks live matter plaza and one area where president trump and lewis did agree, they both condemned the violent protests that we saw in early june. we still continue to see in some cities and lewis pushed for peaceful protests and the president did an exclusive interview with chris wall as continued to blame violent protests and other behavior on liberal mayors, listen. okay well neil we don't have that sound but president trump and chris wallace went back and forth and president trump is blaming former vice president joe biden, his opponent for some of that violence and some of the response in other cities touting his own policy. he says that biden wants to de fund the police and chris wallace says it's not true and turns out joe biden does not want to defund the police but re route some of the other funds to other places and this interview was done before president trump learned of

congressman lewis' passing, again no comment specifically from president trump at this point, and any comments though we'll be sure to pass them along but right now the flag behind me remaining at half staff in honor of congressman john lewis. neil? neil: so the only white house statement that i see thus far on lewis' passing is coming from kayleigh mcenany and you said the president has not himself, and you also mentioned when he opted not to that is the congressman to attend this president's inauguration, he had done the same i believe with george w. bush, so there was that. did the president over comment at this that lewis had done this again with another incoming republican president? >> he did, neil he mentioned it in that january 2017 tweet, president-elect donald trump it was just three days before the inauguration he did mention that lewis did the same thing to former president george w. bush

during that inauguration, but john lewis was mentioned like i said three times really before president trump took the other of office with like 84 million followers i believe at last check almost 84 million follower s not a lot of tweets about john lewis. not a lot of mentions about john lewis over the past three and a half years that donald trump has been in the white house, neil. neil: all right, very very interesting thank you very much david spunt on all of that flags at half staff in the nations capitol including over the white house, so i should point that out. in the meantime, continued unrest the types of which john lewis was very concerned about in his life dating back to a young man, and a number of freedom rallies and the like but they continue picking up steam in portland where the unrest was so bad, there's been a battle about whether or more troops should be there and the mayor of portland and the governor of washington have been arguing back and forth that it can cause more harm than good. mark morgan is joining us right now, the acting cbp commissioner customs and border protection.

commissioner, what do you make of essentially the powers that be in portland saying we don't need you, we don't want you we think you're agitating things by pushing troops on us. what do you think? >> neil it's just outrageous and it's wreckless and the president is right. the attitudes and policies like that that actually get the violence. look the argument that the mere presence of federal officers and agents causes violence, that is outrageous and ridiculous and i believe that most american people do not believe that. what's happening right now are absolute criminals. they are willfully organizing, planning and coordinating and preparing themselves and bringing weapons to these areas with the intent to destroy federal property and harm federal agents and officers. that is criminal and that can not be justified. neil: you know, commissioner, i'm sure you've heard of the mayor in such that says that's overstated and not the case that a number of the

people who have been arrested were peaceful demonstrators and further they were arrested in weird ways from officers and the like who did not identify themselves. that they were in some cases even wearing plain clothes. do you know anything about that? >> i do and what i'll tell you right now, neil that's a lie. that's absolutely false. first of all it's common sense. right now in situations like this , it's standard procedure, it's a standard tactic for law enforcement officers to use unmarked cars. look we seen the past few week, neil its been on your show, where marked vehicles have actually been attacked by criminals so it just makes sense for the safety of officers and agents as well as the protesters they go out and have reasonable suspicion or probable cause that these individuals have committed a federal crime by destroying federal property, or intentionally trying to physically harm a federal agent or officer and they are going out and absolutely trying to apprehend those individuals.

that's what they should be doing as to ensure law and order. these are criminals they should be held responsible as acting commissioner, i support the men and women 100% in what they're doing. these are not weird tactics. these are absolutely necessary tactics to hold these criminals responsible for criminal behavior. neil: i think the mayor was saying this that we reached out to all of them and none of them responded you were kind enough to response to us and come on but they are saying that this is a situation where even the presence of troops, much like for the mayor when she was very concerned about that, that agitates the situation, and brings more violence than you would typically get. what do you say to that? >> i say this is exactly what the president is saying that defies common sense. look, neil. we had actionable, credible intelligence and let's make clear, before we send additional resources there to portland, oregon to defend federal property, violence was already

happening, and so we had credible information and intelligence that they are going to specifically target federal buildings specifically the hat field building so we sent additional resources there and neil they were inside and guess what happened they did just that they attacked, went in and broke windows and broke down doors and tried to enter the building and harm a federal officer. they did their job to restore law and order and we're not leaving, we're staying. neil: all right commissioner thank you very much again we have calls out to the mayor in portland and the governor of washington, oregon i should say we'll keep you posted on that. in the meantime we are following other developments right now across the cities that are having a spike in violence, how kansas city hopes to deal with it, after this. stock slices. for as little as $5, now anyone can own companies in the s&p 500, even if their shares cost more. at $5 a slice, you could own ten companies for $50 instead of paying thousands. all commission free online.

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neil: all right, there is violence that occurs in cities

and violence that begets images that just stop the public midstream whether it's that one- year-old boy who was killed in new york city area, or this four-year-old legend who was caught up in crossfire and died as a result in kansas city, missouri. the chief there, is on board with the plan to speed up reaction and call times to deal with the violence head on. he's richard smith of kansas city, missouri police chief. chief thank you for taking the time. first of all how are things in your city today? >> well good morning, thanks for having me it's an honor to be here. neil: good morning. >> things are going pretty good we had a protest again last night over operation legend and having the help of federal agents come into town and to set the background a little bit, kansas city has a 38% increase in homicides, year-to-date we've

had almost 347 people shot, non- fatal, and half way through the year we're looking at close to 700 people being shot by the end of the year. we had four homicides in one day , we had two police officers shot in the same day on july 2, one was a very minor injury and the other was a head wound, so we had a very increase in violent crime here in kansas city, and then when the federal government reached out and said hey, would you like to help in working with this , we said anything we can do to stop this violence and bring our city back. neil: you know, chief you probably heard maybe in a prior segment we were talking about what was going on in portland, oregon right now where the mayor is not keen on a president or any type of outside of portland presence that he said will agitate things there. what did you make of that? >> you know, so what we have in

kansas city is we have federal agents come in here and this is mostly behind the scenes investigating going after violent felons that are in our streets today, and the goal is to reduce those , that population, who are shooting gun s in our city, to stem the violence, so it's going to be a very surgical look at crime in kansas city, it's not a broad based look at crime, so to my point here in kansas city, i don't know about the truth in the scenario in portland so much but i do know here, it's going to be a very concentrated effort neil: you know, i think you said and i don't want to put words in your mouth but some of these outside forces coming in that wouldn't be readily identifiable , does that mean are they wearing any uniform at all? >> well first of all, neil, we have these people in kansas city every day. we work with them every day hand -in-hand. we sit next to fbi agents, atf

agents, u.s. marshals, we sit next to them every day so this is nothing different in our city that happens every day we're, we're just getting increased resources to come to our city to help on this violent crime, so those resources that we have every day, the public may or may not have any interaction with them at all. not being involved in that kind of violence or in that realm of criminal activity you wouldn't know they were here for the most part so i would imagine it's the same thing when more resources come in. neil: only reason why i mentioned it chief is that the portland mayor was saying some people were being carted off who were not being violent, by people that look like they were wearing plain clothes and it was just a mystery but it sounds like it was very different in your city. so to that point if you can help me with this , chief and i appreciate your time, a lot of these spikes in homicides and violence seem to have compost

the tragedy of george floyd and his death and i'm wondering whether you see that easing or , you know, just continuing. it's going to be a long, hot summer. what do you say? >> yeah, we had like i say, we had one last night, we have one scheduled for tonight, so you're right. i don't see this easing, at least in kansas city anytime soon. even last night, we had again, we start out very peaceful during the daylight hours and when it gets nighttime, then we start seeing property damage and other things happening, so here we made some arrests last night for property damage at police headquarters, so i think we are going to see some more of this and i'm hoping that people understand that the police departments across this country all of us want to facilitate peaceful protests that is no problem. i think where the line starts to get blurred is when it becomes peaceful and civil unrest and what we're saying is have all

the people protest and let's not cross that line in the civil unrest. neil: all right, chief thank you very very much. your men and women trying to keep the peace chief richard smith of kansas city. now kansas city used to be where , you know, one of our guests was the mayor and he dealt withs had up risings and the like and now of course he's a multiple term congressman and he's going to weigh in on what's happening back in his old home kansas city and in missouri and his reflections on the loss of an icon, after this. hey, can i... hold on one second... sure. okay... okay! safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! he's here. he's right here. - hi! - hi. hey! - that's totally him. - it's him!

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neil: well the condolences are pouring in right now from around the world in memory of john lewis the civil rights icon, who had been the lone living survivor of the march on washington at least the speakers who attended that event, now former president george w. bush is saying we join fellow americans in mourning the loss of congressman john lewis as a young man marching for equality in selma, alabama john answered violence and a public serve answer and worked to make our country a more perfect union and americans can honor john's memory by continuing his journey toward liberty and justice for all. you might recall it was then

president-elect george w. bush's inauguration and then congressman lewis opted not to attend because he didn't think he was doing enough on racial equality and wouldn't offer any hope of racial equality. two men, more than gone over their differences, and were joined at the 50th anniversary of the selma bridge incident as its been called 50 years later along with barack obama. we're also getting joe biden weighing in on this. we are made in the image of god. this is from the former vice president, and then there's john ratcliffe. he was truly one of a kind a moral compass whorled knew where to point us and in which direction to john's family, friends and staff, jill and i send you our love and prayers. want to go to emmanuel clever right now the missouri congressman former kansas city mayor. he's dealt directly with racial disturbances and violence, joins us now, to remember john lewis. congressman very good to have

you. >> good to be with you. neil: just an odd confluence of events the disturbances within your city last night and now the passing of john lewis this morning. your thoughts? >> i think number one i don't think there's anybody who has had any relationship with john lewis who would believe that he would do anything except condemn the violence. john has taught all of us i think, there's no guarantee that non-violence will set things straight but we can guarantee that violence will never set things straight and i know those whoever is responsible for this may have believed they were doing something to improve the situation but what they've done is silly and it does enormous damage to the program, the plan, the hope, that many of us are putting forward, and i

guess for happen stance that it dies, it takes place at a time when we are mourning the loss of probably one of the top five non -violent figures of the last century and the beginning of this new century. neil: you know, congressman, there's a movement right now among some progressives to de fund or completely revamp police departments, so joe biden is not among them, but certainly there are many many progressives who have been saying that's long overdue and now is the time. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, you know, we can always reinvent things. i think we need to have the police department remain the police department. i do think that there are some things we can change.

one of those things for example, is we need a division of the police department to deal with calls to move someone with a mental problem to another situation to a hospital or something. i think we are unfair to police to want to send them on domestic calls, somebody suffering from schizophrenia who has a knife but who if he or she had their medicine, be calm. i mean, i don't think we just send them out on every single call it's unfair to them and they were not trained to deal with all of those circumstances, so i do think we can make some changes in the police department when people say we must defund the police department, and then, you know, just kind of clamp down on that, let's defund the police department, i think that damages what many of us would like and that is to see a

new vision or to create a new vision for the police where they are part of the community. i am a big advocate. i started this when i was mayor, of having police on the beat, walking the beat as they did in days gone by, so when little billy is acting up on the street corner, the police officer knows them and says i'm telling your mother. what is your grandmother going to say when she finds out you're down here acting up? and people, i grew up with we only had two african american police at the time when i was growing up, and they could only arrest black people but we knew them and they knew us and they could say hey, you know, it's time to go home, and oh, yes, sir okay we're headed home, so they're doing some damage when they just kind of clamp down on no, we want to defund the police that's not going to happen number one and number two it creates more and more division

in the nation as it's already divided. neil: emmanuel cleaver, thank you very much, we needed to hear a lot of what you just said without any of the delights of rhetoric, thank you very much, a preacher by training as well and in the meantime with all of these disturbances and all the problems and now all the costs coming out of the violence for cities, aoc says do you know what? go after the billionaires and tax them because they can afford it. they've been bypassing all of this. when the governor of new york says not so fast, it's a story, after this.

>> governor cuomo, we need you to pass the billionaires tax in order to make sure that we're providing for our working families. it's time to stop protecting billionaires and it's time to start working.

neil: all right, you know, with all the money we've been spending in cities and states and the virus and then the post- demonstrations and everything else, they have to come up with ways to pay for all of this in new york, for example , you have alexander ocasio-cortez whose been advocating taxing billionaires but what's interesting is the reaction she got from the new york governor who wasn't knee jerk against it just be concerned those billionaires can move and go to connecticut or nearby new jersey and get a better deal and not have to put up with that so unless they're all on the same page it's not going to be productive but it's a big campaign issue right now, and people like aoc made it front and center, and frank lunt z is with us right now , how is this matter of leaving it to the well-to-do because part of joe biden's plan to reinvigorate america calls for higher corporate taxes and the like and that might be just for starters

but it's not affecting him or hurting him in the polls so what are we to make of that? >> well i'm going to broaden the scope just a little bit to give the viewers context. 65% of americans believe that the economic system in our country is rigged against them. that's the language that we use, two-thirds. half of americans believe that corporations should not get unlimited profitability and two-thirds of americans would actually limit the pay that a ceo makes, so we have a country, and a philosophy, that has changed dramatically over the last 30 or 40 years, and that's why two-thirds of americans, including majority of republicans believe that the top 1% should be taxed more, and believe that there should be a wealth tax, so actually, while your viewers will disagree with this , the majority of americans would rather have the wealthy and the corporations pay for it

rather than they themselves pay for it. we changed. neil: well it does make sense, if you're going to need more money, best not to tax me and tax these other guys who have more than enough to go around but the history of these sort of things doesn't stop at the very very rich so we could argue back and forth about what starts with targeting billionaires goes to a far larger crowd, but you know, we were doing some back of the napkin numbers on fox business, which if you don't get you should demand. one of the things that came up was even if you tax that crowd at 100%, it wouldn't address some of these plans and proposal s to say nothing of the debt, so then it would have to go to include more folks, right? >> so i'll give you the specifics here. the average american thinks that you have to be greater than a millionaire in your income to be in the top 1%. they don't realize it's less than half that. second. and the single greatest way to

kill the proposals for higher taxes is to ask washington to spend less, spend more efficient ly, more effectively, and more accountable. this is a case where language comes into play. the public will not support raising taxes on anybody if it's this wasteful washington spending. we've got it right now. the idea that people make more money on unemployment than they do working is very frustrating to many many millions of americans, and it's why this next and final stimulus package, they need to be much more careful if they want to in gender public support as the american people don't want to discourage work. neil: all right we'll watch it closely frank luntz, os a pleasure catching up with you especially on late breaking news frank luntz on that. there is other news this past week including new friction with china they sanctioned lockheed martin for selling arms to taiwan and we in turn sanction

the chinese for the treatment of hong kong and then we send two aircraft carriers to the south china sea, to look for all of this militarization going on of islands that china doesn't even own. what's going on here? lt. general jerry boykin is next

neil: welcome back everybody. we're following a lot of developments beyond just what's happening right now on the racial and some of the riot fronts and the passing of an icon, but i do want to let you know there are other worries in the world including what's happening now and increasingly relationship with china that as some people say forget about a trade war, but the way we're going at it, it could be a real war. with us right now is the retired lt. general, william g. boykin.

of course the best selling book "man to man, rediscovering masculinity in a challenging world" general always good to have you and you fear when i go off topic but today i thought we would do something novel and stick to the topic. so it's very good to have you my friend and thank you first off for all your incredible service to the country, but people get worried in this country about how things are going with china right now. you know all the tit-for-tat on what they did the crackdown on hong kong, and we put sanctions on them and they quickly slapped sanctions on lockheed martin a key defense firm for selling arms to taiwan threatening more counter measures disinviting u.s. senators, forbidding some of them to ever go to china. where is all this going? >> yeah, you know, it's unsure as to where this is going, neil. ever since the days of the rule china has had an expansionist objective. they want to rule the world in

terms of geopolitics, economy, as well as military power and what you see now is i think you see them exploiting a situation, that being the covid and the chaos that's created within the united states, because america is still the only super power in the world today, and i think that they're taking advantage of this count, but what they've done is they have grossly underestimated donald trump. i think that they misjudged him and now what i think you're see ing with the military exercises and the stated rejection of their claims in the south china sea, you're see ing trump coming back, and i think that it's something that he had to do at this point. neil: still, the chinese are already militarized quite a few of these islands that to your point, general, don't belong to them so what do we do? they're not going to deweapon

them or take everything and pack it up and go. we hope they don't continue this , but in the past, they have. now we sent these two carriers into the region you're right. i'm just wondering what are we going to do if china says all right, we're going to continue this. >> well we have five allied nations there in the south china sea and what china has done is tried to claim not only these islands that they've built and coral reefs they've built airfields and ports on but they have claimed essentially 90% of the south china sea and these other five nations are fighting back so what do we do? we stand with our allies and i call vietnam which is one of those countries i call them an allie at this point because of the trade that we have with them and the tourism and all. we stand with our allies but we also go beyond that and we continue in building and i think you're seeing europeans now

start to stand up and talk back against what they see china's ultimate objectives are with their string of pearls which is all designed to make them a global economic and military power so we rely on allied relationships to help us to deal with this. neil: general thank you very much, as you pointed out the chinese are not easing up on any of this and we are not easing up in our fairly talks that say we won't put up with this so you hope cooler heads prevail but we shall see. general always good seeing you thank you very very much. we're going to have an update exactly on what the plans are now for john lewis, the civil rights icon who passed away at 80. it could be a big event after this. usaa is made for what's next no matter what challenges life throws at you, we're always here to help with fast response and great service and it doesn't stop there we're also here to help look ahead that's why we're helping members catch up

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>> all right. he knew when he got the pancreatic cancer diagnosis he was in for a battle.

and he acknowledged that, but he said he was going to put the same mettle into that that he did fighting violence and himself getting beaten up at numerous demonstrations and protests and the like over the course of his 80 years, but he eventually succumbed to that pancreatic cancer dying at age 80. steve harrigan on the legacy of john lewis and the plans to remember him as we speak. steve is in atlanta. hey, steve. >> that's right, neil. we're seeing people here to come to bring flowers at this mural of john lewis and you're right to point out he fought pancreatic cancer seven months hard as his whole life. a congress 34 years and died at age 80. his history is incredible to read. started out the third of 10 children of share croppers in rural, alabama inspired by reverend martin luther king who he sent a letter to and received a round trip bus

ticket. he started with sit-ins at lunch counters segregated in tennessee. in 1961 one of the first freedom riders trying to integrate bus transportation and in 1963 he was the youngest speaker at the march on washington with reverend king and perhaps the most dramatic event of his life was 1965 march in selma over the edmund pettus bridge and leading nonviolent protesters for voting rights. they were attacked viciously by state troopers and others, he was hit in the head and skull fractured as he was getting up. the fact that that video was shown on national television galvanized and shock the nation and led to the voting rights act proposed by president johnson eight days later and enacted that year so it changed history in the south. changed voting as well. he spent 33 years then in congress, elected first in 1987

and the tributes just pouring in for both sides of the aisle. president obama wrote he loved his country so much he risked his life and his blood to live up to its promise and through the decades not only gave himself to the cause of freedom and justice, but inspired generations that followed to try to live up to his example. so putting his body, physically on the line time after time, beaten and left unconscious, and in prison 40 times and also at the same time despite that, those hard times, living up to the principle of nonviolence throughout all of those struggles. neil, back to you. neil: a remarkable career. steve harrigan thank you, very very much. i didn't know a lot of stuff you pointed out there. and doug wilder, the name should ring a bell, the first african-american governor of a state and many argue that maybe, maybe, mr. john lewis in his efforts helped pave the way for that to happen.

i'm very happy to tell you the governor is with us right now. doug, thank you for taking the time. what do you think about this day? >> glad to be with you, neil. it's a sorrowful day in america and good to hear steve speak to the many things that john lewis did. john lewis was a personal friend. we shared a common goal. i don't recall ever seeing john lewis speak for john lewis. i never recall him advocating for himself. i never saw that he was involved with trying to be enriched at the expense of others and that, unfortunately, is something that we don't spend enough time recognizing. john lewis was for people. the downtrodden, and he was fighting for issues, the kinds of things that we are fighting for today, which means what john did has not been

completed. education is disparaged in many areas of our country, health care and you know the answers to that, housing, you know those things, too. and yet, we have more people in elected office, supposedly, representing what john lewis fought for and almost died for, and yet, we see less returns on a regular basis. and so i think it's going to be a sorrowful, missing of what we need and that is, voices like john lewis. we don't have them. you know, governor, it's no secret that john lewis had serious differences with this president who led the fight to see that he was impeached, didn't attend his inauguration before he game president, he did the same with george w. bush, but they developed a fast friendship and bond and i'm wondering the tension with donald trump, where did that start? do you know? >> i couldn't answer that

question if i could at all. the problem with identifying individuals as, you know george wallace and jn lewis became people that could talk with each other. where did that start? that isn't the issue. the problems in america started 400 years ago and they have never been addressed on a regular basis and that's what is very troubling. the history of america is not taught. we don't teach people and i'm not speaking of people of color. we don't teach americans what america is. i tell people on a regular basis, i am as american as the first person that got on the boat to come to america because i was born and not naturalized, but born in america. my parents were born in america. i'm not a black american, i'm not an african-american, i am an american.

and i think this is what john lewis was fighting for, and we need those voices today. fortunately, we have occasion to get into that. i'm celebrating a birthday myself in a couple of months, my 90th and i'm also going to be celebrating the 30th year of my having been elected as the first governor elected in america and virginia did that and so, we're going to be doubling down and talking to the people and we're going to be insisting that we address the issues of money and how it's spent. you know, neil, you've heard me say it on your show too many times, by one word definition of politics is money and i know how you follow the book. what you do, you watch the market, but keep your eye on the buck and your power, and to the extent that we participate in that american dream means we have to participate in the proper distribution of

taxpayers' dollars to all of america's people, john lewis-- >> first of all, i did not know you were so old. >> you did, you did know it. neil: you look great. [laughter]. you look great. >> you do, too, neil. neil: i know you don't like taking a bow for this, but your election in virginia ended up being tighter than the polls were saying, you still won. you were the first african-american governor in this country and furthermore, you were able to collect more white votes than anyone thought possible. many argue that-- it set the stage for barack obama. >> well, i -- he has said so and written to me in a couple of his book and yet, i stood on the shoulders of giants as well. they were not recognized, they were not seen, but they were in my community and more importantly, they were in my home, my mother, my father.

they instilled in me the spirit to believe that i could achieve and i could overcome and with the help of so many people, we have begun to believe that we can do this again. neil: governor, you're a good man, nearly a very old man now, but you've still got your-- you keep that up, my friend, good seeing you. >> good talking to you, my friend. bye-bye. neil: doug wilder, he'll be in the history books if he isn't already to put it mildly. and this woman is, the niece of martin luther king, jr. alveda always good to have you on this particular day, but you are celebrating the life of john lewis just like you did your fine dad and of course, your wonderful uncle, so it's in your blood and i know that, it's a sad day nevertheless. >> absolutely, a very poignant day. i was listening to the governor and all of the wonderful

reports we're remembering about john lewis today, congressman john lewis. my cousin called him uncle john, but i'm the elder cousin, i'm 70, getting old, too, neil, isn't that something? so john to me, i started my civil rights history as a youth organizer in 1960 and john lewis always impressed me even in those days throughout his life as a peaceful warrior, very loyal. he was very loyal and adhered to his beliefs. that was so important to me. i believe even when he disagreed with someone, he was still nonviolent and that's just so very important. my dad was on that edmund pettus bridge when john was assaulted and my dad was beaten as well and certainly john took the brunt of all of that and yet, he was still able to

forgive and to move forward, always standing for the least of these. so that's the way i remember john. interestingly, neil, i don't know if you remember, c vivian. neil: on the same day. >> and prayer, and for his family as they're grieving, but as we move forward, we want to remember that peaceful warrior to gave his very best that he did. didn't always agree philosophically or politically, i'm for the gospel of jesus christ, i don't do much social gossip i believe in one human race, but john was so consistent, so compassionate, so nonviolent all of his life and i regard him for that and still do, he will certainly be

missed. neil: thank you, alveda, very, very much. very good catching up with you. continued good health. alveda king, niece of martin luther king, jr., and the family well steeped in trying to advance racial rights and now in the passing of john lewis, wondering where we go from here. we have a lot more including a read of this from the mississippi governor, his thoughts after this. i give to shriners hospitals for children because i want to be a part of something amazing.

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>> you know, when you think about changes that were put maybe having to do with john lewis, maybe not, but the issue of addressing a racial past in mississippi, there was an effort led by the governor to take confederate imagery off that flag, to change the flag. it's still happened. it was very, very swift and that, of course, before the passing of john lewis at 80

earlier this morning. and the republican governor of mississippi joins us right now. governor, you seized on events that were gripping the nation and that said essentially the state's position was, this is a symbol that can't be pushed further. how were you able to get everyone on board with that? >> well, neil, thanks for having me on today. you know, it's a sad day for america. my wife and i prayed for representative lewis and his family this morning. john lewis was actually arrested in 1961 in the state of mississippi, was sent to our state penitentiary for what evidently at that time was believed to be a crime of going to the restroom. so, we as mississippiens have a complicated past, we know that, but we're looking towards the future and that's certainly what we did when we made the decision to change our state

flag. look to the future and create a prosperous economic future for all mississippians and i'm happy to have the opportunity to bring people together. it's been a challenging time to bring people together and focus on what we believe can make mississippi an even better place to invest capital and even better place to create jobs and even better place to raise a family. neil: you know, governor, you did run across some resistance who didn't liken the confederate flag to racism. and many in nascar when they took the confederate flag away from their events. so they did not equate it to racism. how did you feel about the resistance you encountered on that front? >> well, what i would tell you, neil, is that i completely reject the notion that some on the far left believe that those who wanted to keep our current flag were by definition racist.

the reality is that to many people across this state and across this nation, when they think about the civil war, they think about their ancestors, the people that they have learned from over time, some good, some not so good, but the reality is for us, as mississippia mchl mississippians. we've got to look to the future and what can bring prosperity to our entire state and that's what we're focused on. neil: governor, if you don't mind my switching, a spike of cases of late and numbers, yours aren't nearly so alarming, but there's an issue with masks in your state. you recommend their use, but you haven't demanded their use. why? >> well, there's no doubt that if you go to the state of texas and louisiana and arkansas and alabama and a few others, they have mandated masks statewide.

what i've said, neil, i believe that the best way for us to slow the spread of this virus is for people to wear masks, to maintain social distance, not to gather in large groups for social gatherings in excess of 20 people outdoors, but i don't believe that a statewide mask mandate, by the way, i'm not speaking for any other governor or any other state, i don't know all the details on the ground there. in my state, i believe the best way for us to get the maximum amount of people participating in wearing masks is not to have a statewide mandate, but an approach as we currently do, 13 counties and they have a mask mandate because they have either more than 200 cases overall reported in the last 14 days, or they have more than 500 cases, and allows a criteria that allows the county to get on or off the list.

we believe the best way to convince mississippians to wear a mask, many are opposed to it, is to do it by asking them to experience social responsibility, to do the right thing, personal responsibility. we believe it's the best way to do it much more so than any government telling them what to do. in mississippi we have people including myself we don't like to be told what to do, but we do want to be smart and we do want to help our friends and our neighbors and our moms and our grand moms. so i've asked my fellow mississippians to do that and the last couple of weeks we've seen significantly better compliance with that and i'm pleased where we found ourselves. we're in the middle of a spike. we're not seeing the kind of increases we're seeing in other states, but our hospitalization is up significantly, we had 450 or so individual patients with confirmed covid on june the

27th. we had 853 yesterday. and so, we've got challenges in our hospital system has challenges and we're going to do everything we can to slow the spread. neil: governor, thank you very, very much. we'll be following that very, very closely. the governor, tate reeves of mississippi. and protesters asking the governor to the to get in the middle of this or send troops anywhere there. a business owner in the region said, are you nuts? after this.

>> all right. it is the close to a direct statement from the president of the united states on the

passing right now of jn lewis, explaining why the white house has set its flag at half staff as a mark of respect for longstanding representative john lewis, i hereby order from the authority vested in me in the constitution and the flag of the united states shall be flown at half staff at the white house upon all public bell buildings and grounds and direct further that the flag shall be flown at half staff for the same period at the u.s. embassies and consulate offices abroad all military facilities and naval bases and stations. a lot of you were waiting for that and of course, we're just getting that from the white house, explaining the half staff flag outside or over the white house, similarly over the united states capitol. in the meantime, we're also following other developments across the country, like

escalating violence in some cities, including portland, oregon, sometimes caught up in this violence are businesses just trying to make a living, including my next guest, david, the owner of the jewelers in portland and i think your store is still open, david, but it's kind of boarded up, right? >> yes, we're totally open. we've been open for over a month now since our governor allowed us to open the store and we're in the center of downtown. we've been downtown for 88 years and it's really kind of a sad situation because due to the fighting in the district where the government buildings are, and the news showing all of what's going on there, it makes the whole region feel like the entire downtown is up in smoke and a problem,

whereas, the area where it's merchantile and stores is perfectly peaceful and perfectly fine during the day and it's safe for people to come down, but people from the outlying areas and the suburbs and even as far away as connecticut are afraid to come downtown because they think the entire downtown is up in arms. and it's not that situation right now. and during the day, it's very safe in our downtown. we have one of the most beautiful downtowns in america. and i hate to see it-- well, right now, it looks like the city of plywood, even though it's called the city of roses. so-- >> it is a beautiful city and many, many times. i am curious, you're right a lot of the violence or at least escalation attention happens at night. your mayor has been among those saying we don't need any outside help or interference. are you okay with that?

>> well, i think that our police force state just moved some of the people who wanted to start an autonomous zone in the park, they moved them out with our own local police, but i also feel strongly that all property needs to be protected and if we don't have enough policemen to protect from the federal buildings, they can go about it in a, you know, a safe manner and it's become a firestorm with that whole situation. so it's hard to determine that i think our police have things pretty well under control. neil: because judging, and you're there, i'm not so i'll defer to your expertise. but it looked like things were-- when they get violent at night, they don't look under control and i'm wondering if at the very least, more man and woman power, whether they're from the area or not, could at least

ease these tensions and maybe get on top of them. that seems to be the trump administration's approach to this in urging that if the mayor or if the city officials are going to get on top of this, he will. what do you think of that? >> well, i'm not sure. he's not on the ground here and i'm not certain we have a deficit-- it's such a new situation, i think, for this entire country, what's going on right now, but we do have to keep civil order, we do need to keep the streets safe. we need to keep our property safe and we need to keep all of the institutions in our downtown safe. if we aren't able to do it with our local police and bring in our state national guard or whatever, but i think he's trying, our mayor is trying to balance it between not being

too militaristic and trying to respect peaceful protests, that's not peaceful protests. what's going on at times there. so it's a really cloudy area and i think it's new territory for everybody in our city and in our state of how to handle this confrontation. >> all right. well, we wish you well. again, i know you have a lot to deal with, david, you're trying to do it calmly and professionally. good luck to you, and we'll be monitoring the situation closely. we're monitoring some restaurant owners who are getting concerned because a lot of them get the runaround, you can open, no, you have to close up. you have to be at limited capacity, and more limited capacity. now they're seeking help from uncle sam. are they going to get it? after this.

>> it's got to be very tough if you're a restaurant these days. almost no matter what state you live in particularly in you're in texas where you were told you could open up and then they had to close back down and some were looking at limited capacity, if any capacity and now zilch capacity. so for chris shepherd, these are very, very tough times. chris is the executive chef from underbelly in houston. he joins us now. chris, are you open at all?

can you be open at all? >> we are, in houston we're-- in texas allowed to be open at 50%. our local officials would like us to be at 25% and so it's one of those things like we've done everything we could to make it as safe and -- a safe environment for everybody, not just our guests, but our staff as well, but you know, when you do a 50%, 50% is 50% of nothing, it's tough times. neil: and i owls r always wonder when states deal with this. houston is dealing with this. do you ever fear, they're going to clamp down more now and then i'm going to do this? >> that's a fear that's real every day. and so when it happens we'll cross that bridge, but we're just hoping that, you know, we can kind of put this at bay a

little bit and get back to normal, whatever that may be, or just a comfortable level. and that will help out. neil: well, i know you're at an event in -- and people are drawn to your good stuff and you cook it up. they're drawn to what you're doing. i'm curious, the national restaurant association as you know has been pushing congress hard for some relief for guys like you and the restaurant industry itself. it's an uphill battle, but this would go way beyond the protection program. how do you feel about it? >> i think it has to happen. it not just restaurants, we talk about that. and just hearing in fact that our restaurant industry is almost 9% of our total work force in texas, so, once you start to see restaurants close, it doesn't just affect-- it will put a huge strain on unemployment, but also. >> it's your farms, the whole

good chain. it goes just beyond restaurants. once restaurants close, you take away farmers, ranchers, fishermen, you take away people who do linen, wine companies, beer companies, it's a rolling trickerdown effect to the whole economy. the national restaurant association or ric are asking for $120 million and in two years, they'll put billions back into the economy. without the restaurants it doesn't work. everything is affected. you're going to the grocery store, every price will go up, so, it's a big fear. neil: now, you spelled it out very nicely. you should make the personal pitch for this on capitol hill because you just explained it

very nicely there. look, it only comes back to bite you and the country if it doesn't happen. chris shepherd, thank you very much. hang in there. i hope it works out and trust and pray that it will. the executive chef of underbelly. and i wanted to go to dr. nicole saffir. the f.d.a. issued the first emergency authorization for samp sample pooling and diagnostic testing. i had a hard time getting the significance of that and i knew you could tell me the significance of that, very good to have you. >> thanks for having me, neil. this is great news, i'm happy to be reporting on this beautiful summer saturday that the f.d.a. just issued an eua for pool testing to quest diagnostic. what that means, they can take four individual's tests and run them together so that decreases the amount of testing run, the

reagents and the swabs. the reagents necessary to run the tests and dramatically and efficiently increase our testing capacity. the reason pool testing is so important is because we know with covid-19 that super spreading events is a large part of the transmissible. meaning cruise ships, naval ships, meat warehouses, concerts where spreading happens. pool testing is available. we're doing the testing we're doing and we could times that by four. as we see the cases decrease it's going to be really important for us to surveilling the asymptomatic people as we continue to go on with our life. in addition to pool testing which we just discussed, there's something exciting on the horizon as well. point of care testing. the nih, well, we've invested

about 500 million dollars into rad x for point of care testing and those are those at-home kits potentially, where results will be ready in about 30 minutes. they're not ready until the fall. but this is for our fight against covid-19 and this is how we'll be able to have our schools open and businesses open and move forward with this virus still circulating. neil: but the cases are still fighting cases-- the states, as you're aware. senator dianne feinstein is pushing a bill for those states do not mandate masks, you'd lose your virus aid from the government. how do you feel about that? >> here is the thing, neil. you know that i'm a fan of seat belts, the seat belt law even though we told people seat

belts would safe lives. they wouldn't do it until we had the "click it or ticket" campaign. and we know the mask, should there be a mandate? i wish we didn't have to have a mandate, i wish that we could say there's a way to stop the spread of the virus and masks is one of them. if they don't have a mandate -- i feel like this is partisan games a little bit, but i think that the message needs to be out there that people need to wear a mask, we have to get the community spread down so we're not subjecting ourselves to potential closing of businesses again and how they want to do that is going to be up to them. the "click it or ticket" campaign was quite successful with seat belts and perhaps we have to see the same with masks. neil: we'll have to fight something that rhymes with mask. the "click it or ticket" it--

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>> do you think we will have college football this fall? >> i think we definitely need football. we're going to have football. there's obviously going to be some adjustments, obviously the safety of our young men are going to be first, but we're ready. neil: all right. lsu wants to see a football season for colleges this fall, but again, so many have either

pulled out of the plans or done league or tournament only playing. you're going to wonder if that will delay or deny college football season because the pros, the nfl, they're still planning a regular season this fall. joe namath is here, i think he was a hall of famer quarterback. anyway, good to see you. >> good to be with you, buddy. neil: same here. do you think in this environment -- forget about whether we will or not, whether we should, whether there should be professional football this fall? >> well, if we can protect the players, the coaches, the administrative staff, yeah, everyone participating in preparation and getting ready to perform, sure. can you guarantee they're not going to get sick, maybe even

someone die? we've got to be patient, but we've got to prepare to play because i'd love to see them play. neil: they'll be playing to empty stadiums at least in the beginning. how do you think all of that is going to go down? >> we'll miss it. we'll miss it. as a fan, i miss the excitement, the adrenalin, the enthusiasm. the pga golf tournaments are being played and i like some of that. without the crowds and adrenalin pumping and noise, the cheering, it's different. neil: crowds reacted different to you when you were playing, i think that galvanized you for historic moments you had. i'm not kidding. you mentioned if the player safety can be guaranteed, i'm paraphrasing the coaches. there are going to be a few that contract this virus, there's always that risk, it's inevitable. do you scrap the season for the

very, very small percentage of those who might contract this virus? >> what are we talking about here? money, money, money, business, the restaurants, whatever. it's about the economy. players want to play, they want to get paid. restaurants want to open up because they need to. it's survival, it's the financial thing and there are those that are willing to take the chance and sacrifice their health because they might need that income, they might need that money coming in to feed their own. so, if it's about money, they'll do everything they can to put the show on. neil: so that again, but it's in a lot of states and cities are wrestling with it, what's an acceptable number of cases? what's an acceptable spike? i believe you're in florida where there's been a noticeable spike in cases, so much so they're looking at limiting how many can attend the republican

convention next month. i'm just wondering, is there a level at which you say, there's a risk, but a risk more not to start a football season, not to keep beaches open, you know what i mean? >> yeah, yeah, i think i do. and again, when we try to eradicate polio, dr. salk came up with the vaccine. it didn't cure everyone, it didn't save everyone, but miraculously helped eradicate that disease for the most part anyway. sure, there are always going to be exceptions to the rule, but we need to have our medical people say when you can and when you can't. we need to listen to that. this thing about face masks, neil, why everyone doesn't wear them. we're a country, the united states of america. in sports, these people get together in these football locker rooms, one common goal.

why don't we have one common goal and listen up? wear your face masks, we know it will cut down on the disease, to people catching it. let's do this together as a nation, man! listen up and wear the mask. neil: and we're going to have a season this fall, whether it's an empty or full stadium. isn't it a foregone conclusion that the new york jets are still having to have a lousy year? [laughter] >> no, it's not. [laughter] >> and the coach has got the guys-- okay. neil: all right, all right. it's '69 all over again. and joe namath, nice having you on. >> thank you, my friend, nice being on. neil: so much attention on elon

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>> you know, a lot of people when they think of electric cars think of elon musk and what's going on with tesla, but there's a figure player in this field that doesn't get as much attention, but probably will in the next few days. fisker is it looking to go public in the near future. this guy was ahead of it before elon musk was. henrik fisker, the ceo.

good to have you. how is the rollout for the public offering going right now? >> it's going really well. we've just announced we raised 1.1 billion which is enough to get us all the way to production with our first electric s.u.v. and have decided to make a real s.u.v., i think there's a market void there, everybody is sort of hatchback crossovers in electric vehicle. neil: i should clarify, your first fisker automotive, your cars were praised, they had some quality issues at the time didn't go that well, ended up in bankruptcy and the people looking to invest in you now, to buy from you now, how do you reassure them? >> well, you know, there's a lot of lessons learned. you're absolutely right we were out one and a half year before tesla launched the model s. unfortunately, our battery manufacturer a smaller start-up went bankrupt so we can't

continue. the lesson today we're buying batteries from big players and don't take any risk there and business industries which have grown into electric motors, whatever you need. those things were not available when we started out in the very beginning. we're very confident in the vehicle we'll roll out. very affordable starting at 37,500. we're going tore a different market than the first time. neil: you're known for designing beautiful cars for bmw and even in the fisker days. and this one comes to mind. 300 mile battery range. that's not too shabby. >> it's pretty good, specifically for the price. again, we're starting with a luxury s.u.v., then into sports cars later. the main thing is to create a business that makes profit and that's been difficult for any of the ev companies or the big

companies that made ev's. so i think we've come up with a business model. more like apple and fox con, if you want. we still directly to the customers and avoid a middle man and that's why we make affordable vehicles and also a profit margin on the vehicles. >> you look at the stock, however well received the cars are, that it gets frothy, do you think that's the case? >> it's hard for the traditional car industry to turn around because they obviously make a lot of money in the gasoline cars. and you suddenly make the electric cars and advances to a new ev company, we go full in on ev's and take, go more extreme with the technology, more extreme the design of the inning and a lot of customers like the idea. pretty much like when apple

launched the iphone. it's much more extreme that nokia started making the same phones. i think you need revolution in the car industry. neil: best of lucky. a busy week.

>> tributes now pouring in as we remember the life and legacy of congressman john lewis. welcome to america's news headquarters, i'm alicia acuna on this somber day. hi, leland. leland: washington will not be the same without john lewis in the halls of congress behind me. the flag atop the capitol at half staff. he's also been called the conscience of congress. steve harrigan live in the city that congressman lewis represented for so many years and a look back at his legacy. hi, steve. >> leland the president