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i'm afraid the famous big apple is turning into the crab apple. [ laughter ] paul: yes, that is the case. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel and thanks to all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot. hope to see you right here. ♪ eric: tributes to continue to pour in this afternoon for civil rights icon and long-time georgia congressman, john lewis. the legendary lawmaker died yesterday. he was 80 years old of. he had a battle with pancreatic cancer. welcome to america's news ameris headquarters i'm eric shawn. arthel: i'm arthel neville. john lewis' life-long fight for racial equality spanned several decades. he took part of the civil rights march in selma. outrage at brutality helped
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spark package of the landmark voting rights act. >> in a real sense, john lewis was the most important disciple of martin luther king, junior, except that as a leader of a youth movement he took it to an even higher level. i also worked with the march on washington and saw him always willing to break barriers and, yes, to have his own head broken, if necessary. arthel: we begin our coverage with steve harrigan live in atlanta which lewis represented in congress for 33 years. steve. >> reporter: arthel, john lewis' story began in the segregated south in rural alabama. he was the third of 10 children, his parents were sharecroppers, working the fields for a white farm owner. he took an early interest and was inspired by martin luther king. he sent dr. king a letter, received a round-trip bus ticket in return. his first bit of activeism
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occurred in nashville, tennessee, tried to help it. integrate lunch counters. he became one of the first freedom riders, trying to integrate bus service across the south. in 1963, at just 23 years old, dr. king's march on washington, he was the young ofest speaker there before the lincoln memorial. he was told by some of the elders to tone down his speech a little bit. it's 1965, bloody sunday, the march from selma where he gained international attention, leading 600 nonviolent protesters in search of voting rights. they were visually beaten by state troopers and civilians. the video footage shown on u.s. tv, galvanized the nation and shocked american, led almost immediately to the voting rights act of 1965. here's martin luther king the third on lewis. >> john lewis pe personified nonviolence every day of his life.
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everything he did, he tried to do in a nonviolent way and was inspired by martin luther king, junior. i'm inspired and millions are inspired by john lewis. for what he did, particularly around voting. we have to think about the fact that the voting rights act did not exist. some people -- their rights are still suppressed. we have to make voting free and fair for everyone. if we want to do a tribute to john lewis, it would be about ensuring that every vote is counted and everyone can vote in our society. >> reporter: president obama had this tribute for lewis. he said he loved his country so much that he risked his life and his blood so it might live up to its promise. through the decades he not only gave all of himself to the cause of freedom and justice, but inspired generations that followed to try to live up to his example. john lewis put his on physical body on the line time after time. he never veered from a principle of nonviolence. his actions really changed the
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law and changed political history in the u.s. arthel and eric, back to you. arthel: steve harrigan there in atlanta, thank you very much, steve. eric. eric: thanks, steve and arthel. for more on the life and legacy of john lewis, let's bring in ben gellis, former president of the naacp. welcome to the fox news channel. >> thank you. it's good to be here. eric: he was beaten and bloodied but he stood for decades with dignity and perseverance and principle. tell us some of your reflections on john lewis. >> you know, john, was a friend and he inspired all of us. he was so consistent. he never wavered. his life and his words always brought us back to the moral core of the civil rights movement. that's rare for somebody who could serve for 16 or 17 terms as a politician. john lewis was truly a
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transformative figure. be clear about one thing. when he started out black people were fighting for the most basic rights. my mom living in baltimore would see her mother in petersburg and they had to prepare for a trip because they couldn't stop at a gas station or restaurant. they would have of to fry chicken and wrap it up, they would have to not drink water for hours so they won't worry about stopping and suffering indignities that came with being black and trying to travel from state to state. our most basic freedom as black people, john lewis was involved in securing for us. that's part of the deep gratitude and respect, why we all show it to him. eric: that is such an eloquent way and reminder of the changes this country, the fact that back then -- he was 17 years old and meets rosa parks, 18 years old, meets dr. martin luther king, 23 years old of the youngest to speak in the march of
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washington. and we have video of you and congressman lewis together. what did he say? what were his reflections on what he went through, what this nation went through and what we're going through now? >> john was always very basic. he had his eye on the prize of freedom and equality, dignity for all of us. he understood what frederick douglas meant when he said that our country's character was defined by it at its best and our country's destiny is of to be the most perfect example of the unity and dignity of the human family that the world has ever known and that's what he fought for. that was his north star. a lot of folks who go from the movement into politics or into business and waiver, john never did. he showed up as the same guy every day and to even share a few words with him would leave you inspired and feeling more grounded and more rooted in your
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conviction to push forward. eric: what drove him? >> just an unwavering belief in fairness, an unwavering faith in god, and a belief that god was on the side of all of those who were struggling of to be free. and john was a liberation theologist at his core. he was trained at seminary, and he was one of the truly -- one of king's students in the ministry and yet he understood that his ministry was politics, his ministry was changing laws. he was also a tremendously courageous man. you stand next to an old general who was in the battlefield again and again. whether it's a general in our military or whether it's a leader in the civil rights
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movement who also risked his life and there is just a steadiness. john had that steadiness. he was like his own force of gravity. and when you were with him, he just by his being reminded you of the urgent need for you to be your best self, your most courageous self and to never give up on our country or the dream that this is the place where we can all be equal, we can all be free, we can all live with dignity and we can truly rise, kind of lift humanity to a place that it has never known. eric: he has continued the struggle right to the very end on other issues, voting rights, he led the sit-in in the well of the house on gun violence and in march made that surprise visit, even though he suffered from pancreatic cancer, to the site of the edmund pettis bridge, the notorious site of bloody sunday where he was beaten.
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that really surprised a lot of people. he made a point, we're seeing it now, just a few months ago, showing up. what was the result of that and the image of that and the fact that he was there, still fighting his fight? >> john really made a point of bringing folks from both parties back of to that bridge again and again, to remind them that the right to vote should not be a partisan issue, that protecting the vote should be a bipartisan cause. and that was really what his whole life was about. and so for him, you know, there's a saying from one of the great leaders in the civil rights movement, way back, that i would rather deio die on myt than live on my knees. so john is far from the first civil rights leader to decide that even if it takes a day, month, year off his life, it's better to show up and keep doing the work of pulling people together and lifting our nation
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to a better place. eric: you go to that bridge today, i've been down to selma and you stand there and some places for the first time, whether it's the white house or congress or you go to dealy plaza and it's just amazing to see the bridge. cars now going back and forth but you see john lewis on the ground in that black and white photograph. you see the crowd crossing it. how do we continue and how will you continue his legacy as we head into a very tumultuous election year? >> we're all still fighting to restore section 5 of the voting rights act. the voting rights act has been gutted. for john in some ways he felt like we have moved backwards on the right to vote in tremendous ways. and so that's how i honor john is to fight for finally for us to restore the voting rights act. it was not long ago, it was 2007, when there was bipartisan
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consensus that we needed to protect the voting rights act. but it's been gutted since then. as we head into this fall, we have to make sure that every vote is counted. we have to make sure that every person who needs to mail in their ballot because of what we're dealing with with covid knows that that's what they need to do. we have people for the american way, we are focused on marshalling our 1 million plus members to make sure that all of their neighbors know how to vote in this new -- in this new way. vote by mail is old in some places but it's new in a lot of places and we need to make sure that everybody casts their ballot this fall. eric: ben gellis, former naacp president who knew and stood you alongside with john lewis. thank you for your thoughts and your refrequen reflections here. >> thank you. arthel: thank you very much.
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arthel: a kentucky county has dropped felony charges against rapper trey the truth. he and dozens of others were arrested tuesday, outside the kentucky attorney general's house. they were peacefully protesting the killing of breonna taylor, who was shot at least eight times in her own home by police executing a no-knock warrant. that was in march. so far, no charges. meanwhile, the county attorney dropping federal charges against, quote -- against the protesters, quote, in the interest of justice and promotion of the free exchange of ideas. so trey the truth joins me now along with former u.s. attorney michael j moore.
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good to have both of you. tell us what was happening leading up to your arrest and did the arresting officers tell you why you were being detained? >> first and foremost, how you doing? i appreciate you having me. no, they didn't tell us -- actually, none of us found out our of charges until we were actually already in jail. we definitely felt like since time's been by, you know, breonna taylor's name no longer a topic of a lot of people and i felt like it was a situation that me and the rest of us didn't want to sweep under the rug. so we decided to be front line and we went to louisville. arthel: so you were sitting there in front of the attorney general's home. how long had you been there before police showed up to arresariel. >>arrest y'all. >> we marched to his home. when we got there, we noticed helicopters flying around which of course i would assume they
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were trying to see what we were doing. and we stood out there, it couldn't have been no more than 20 minutes before we start seeing police come from -- there was police already sitting at the house and then as we looked down the street we just seen a nice amount, a small army of police coming our way. arthel: and did the protest -- be honest with me, did the protest ever get out of hand? >> not at all. it was probably one of the most peaceful protests. it was so peaceful, the neighbors around his home -- the neighbors around the home were seeing how peaceful it was and offered for some of the other protesters to come on their lawn so the officers wouldn't mess with them. arthel: michael, you're a former state attorney general. hahow does this look from where you sit and should the protesters taking further action? >> i've prosecuted cases in the
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state and federal court. i thought that the idea that they charge these folks including my musician friend here with a felony charge is one of the most outrageous things i've ever heard. they were exercising their right to protest. they were on his private property, maybe they could say they needed to leave and he was protesting. he's an elected official. basically they're telling him what they want him to do, and that is to look at the case. the delay in the case is outrageous. there's no excuse for it. i can't think of a reason the prosecutor should take this long. they charged him with a felony which is one that's made to prevent people from intimidating witnesses and jurors in a case. so to -- let me offer this to him and to anybody else. i'd get all the phone records, the cell records, radio dispatch logs, i'd get the reports, find out everybody who was out there, i would find out who said what and who gave the order to charge a felony and i would sue the hell of them.
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it's untenable. it's unamerican. it's unconscionable. arthel: michael, you said it's their legal right to protest, is it their legal right to sit on someone's property? the other protesters were in kentucky to avenge the wrongful killing of breonna taylor. what is the holdup in moving forward with potential police wrong-doing surrounding the death of ms. taylor. >> first off, if they're on private property, the owner of the property has a right to say i don't want you on my property. that leaves the neighbors, the streets, the sidewalks, other places. even still, the most that could have happened at that point would have been a charge of a city ordinance or trespass charge which is essentially nothing. as far as what takes so long, you know, it's not uncommon to have outside agencies come in and investigate a place like this because you have a police officer involved shooting. remember they charged the man, ms. taylor's boyfriend, basically that night with
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attempted murder. now we've waited all this time for them to make a decision about what to do with the officers. this is pretty clear. they went into somebody's home, they didn't have a reason to be in there that was legitimate because the gentlemen they were looking for had already been arrested. they went in and shot a lady who had nothing to do with any crimes alleged with this warrant who killed her. so i'm sure what they're trying to do is piece things together. the cases can be tough when you have a police officer involved shooting. this one to me merits charges. you could charge negligent homicide, a number of things could be brought forward and the investigation could go on. you don't have to make a one time charge in a case. you can bring a charge and you can continue on your investigation. you can increase the charges. you could decrease the charges. you can do things that as the case comes forward but there's no excuse for sitting here many months later and doing nothing and you know in atlanta, the
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shooting here we saw basically and while i thought the da was out-of-line and shouldn't have charged this quick, he charged basically the police officers in the shooting case before, you know, the -- it was ridiculous. there was still smoke coming out of the gun. he jumped too quick. you need to be careful. you need to be thorough. you need to give everybody due process. you don't need to delay. you don't do it for politics or strategic reasons. you need to answer the call of justice. if this deserves to be charged, charge it. arthel: hopefully the kentucky attorney general will get your message there. trey, what you were doing, you are trying to bring about justice for the wrongful killing of breonna taylor. this sort of civil rights movement and action and determination is exactly what congressman john lewis dedicated
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his entire life to. so on this day, the day after his passing, i'd like to know, trey, what your thoughts are of the congressman's life and legacy, what does it mean to you? >> first and foremost, i want to say rest in peace to john lewis and also ct vivian, because they both passed. but to the most part, everything in life, everybody follows a person's lead and the legacy that him and martin luther king created is for people like myself to follow and with the same thing that happened in louisville, which now you know they're calling us the louisville 87, is going to be creating leadership for those who come behind us is going to stand the exact same way. but definitely it's definitely a heart-breaking situation for him to pass away but it's a proud moment because we can say we followed in the foot steps for what's right with his good trouble i guess as some people would say.
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arthel: as he would say, absolutely. trey the truth, the congressman would say, trey the truth and michael j moore, i thank both of you for joining us and trey, i imagine we'll have you back again as i know that you'll continue to work to find justice for ms. breonna taylor. thank you, gentlemen. >> definitely. arthel: thank you. eric. eric: thanks, arthel. the fight over masks against coronavirus, that landed in court in georgia. the governor suing atlanta over its mask mandate, plus we'll have more of our continuing coverage of the life and legacy of the late congressman, john lewis. up next, we'll take a look back at his more than three decades in washington. >> we were beaten, tear gassed, we were bloody, right here on this bridge. 17 of us were hospitalized that
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fifth congressional district which encompasses atlanta. admirers say he represented americans everywhere who struggled to obtain equality and justice. he was widely known as the conscience of congress. >> he spent a lifetime learning how to chisel into clarity, exactly the message he wanted to deliver and because he did it with he'l eloquence, power and substance, we paid attention. >> reporter: he constantly called for peace over of violence including opposing the wars in iraq in the early '90s and 2000s. he boycotted president george w bush's inauguration. he did the same in 2017 for president trump. those who called lewis a friend say he could be counted on to stand his ground. >> you always knew exactly how he was going to vote. doesn't mean you were always comfortable with his vote but you knew how he would vote.
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because you knew john lewis. >> reporter: congressman lewis voted to impeach president trump last year. he spoke on the house floor in december, explaining why he felt congress had to take such drastic action. >> when you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something, to do something. >> reporter: lewis never shied away from controversy, including in 2016 when he helped lead house democrats on the house floor in a sit-in as they were trying to force lawmakers to address gun violence. in washington, mark meredith, fox news. arthel: thanks, mark. congressman john lewis passed away hours after another civil rights icon, the reverend dr. ct vivian. vivian was an early advisor to dr. martin luther king, junior and like congressman lewis was beaten by troopers in selma in 1965. dr. vivian also saved sit-ins
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against segregation in the 1940s. in 2013, president obama awarded him the presidential medal of freedom. >> time and again, reverend vivian was among the first to be in the action. in 1947, joining a sit-in to integrate an illinois restaurant, one of the first freedom riders, in selma on the steps to register blacks to vote for which he was beaten, bloodied and jailed. rosa parks said of him, even after things that supposedly had been taken care of and we had our rights, he was still out there, inspiring the next generation including me. arthel: reverend ct vivian died of natural causes at his home in atlanta. he was 95. ♪ >> i don't agree with the
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statement that if everybody wear a mask, everything disappears. dr. fauci said don't wear a mask. our surgeon general, terrific guy, said don't wear a mask. now all of a sudden everybody has to wear a mask. eric: dr. fauci said that months ago. that of course president trump in an interview with chris wallace that will air tomorrow on fox news sunday. from mixed messaging on masks taking place in one of the hot spots, georgia, that's where the governor of the state, brian kemp, suspended local mask mandates and now the state is suing atlanta mayor, keisha lance bottoms, atlanta and the city council for continuing the mandate in the state's capital city. how important are masks? joining us now, dr. sarah mccool. so professor, thanks for joining us. from a medical point of view, what do you think of this mask battle between the governor and the mayor? >> well, from a public health
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point of view, the idea of a mask mandate may not be something that americans generally embrace because american and america is a very individualistic culture, meaning we prioritize doing what's best for the individual over what is best for the group. collectiveist cultures are the opposite, they do what's best for the group over what they believe is best for the individual. so individualism in america is not a bad thing and in fact the protection of personal liberties is one of the things that makes america uniquely great. however, that individualistic view can become problematic when facing a common enemy like covid where it requires us to prioritize what's best for the group over what's best for the individual. eric: so in that vein, what would be in your view best for the group? >> in that vein, what's best for the group is really to wear masks. we know now that masks can
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provide protection against covid for individuals wearing the mask and for others. and the messaging has shifted over time and i know that that's something that can be very frustrating and tiring for the american public. but unfortunately, that's one of the drawbacks that happens when we have this new virus that we are learning about and continue to learn about in real-time. and so the pendulum has really swung back and forth. first they were saying don't wear masks. then they were saying wear masks. so the messaging has been confusing. based on what we know now, some of the best advice that we as public health professionals can give is to wear a mask. eric: dr. fauci early on was saying you can go about your business and the cdc was saying you don't have to wear a mask but obviously that changed. here's dr. fauci the other day talking about this very issue. >> i would urge the local plight can calpolitical and other leadn
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states and cities and towns to be as forceful as possible in getting your citizentry to wear masks. masks are important, as part of the physical distance. physical distancing is the most important but practically when you're living your life and trying to open of up the country, you are going to come into contact with people. and for that reason, we know that masks are really important. and we should be using them, everyone. eric: you see on social media videos of people going to the stores, they don't want masks, they start screaming and yelling or they get kicked out or one person called it nazi america because she apparently someone refused to wear a mask. what do you say to those people? some may be watching right now, sayingism not wearing a mask. >> well, i think that we can really frame this in a way that doesn't necessarily trample on personal freedoms. so one, we can reframe the message and say that masks
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really protect you as an individual. and two, for those who feel that masks really take away that personal freedom and that personal choice, similar to what the surgeon general said a couple weeks ago, wearing masks are really going to help us get a lot of our freedom back. we lost a lot of freedoms during the lockdown. we couldn't go to places that we normally went to. we couldn't do the things we wanted to do. and now we're seeing parents can't send their kids to school the way they want to. we can't travel to the places that we want to go to without restrictions. there's a lot of people who are suffering medically, emotionally, socially and emotionally and so the best way to really fight this and end this is to wear a mask so that this doesn't drag on for two, three, four years and we can really get back to our pre-covid normal. eric: the cdc is saying that if everyone in america wears a mask, that they think that the coronavirus could be under control in four to eight weeks. now, you know, you got rural
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counties where there aren't many people around, then you've got packed cities, downtown atlanta or any city. do you think that's possible? is that too optimistic? or could that be realistic? >> you know, at this point we don't know what we don't know. and i do think that there has been evidence that has shown that masks can be really effective and so if everyone really joins in the fight together and is dedicated to try to help end this, wearing masks really could have a significant impact in a shorter time than i think we really anticipate. eric: very quickly, we've got some stats from georgia from your state where you're at. it's astounding, just three months as of yesterday more than 14,647 people hospitalized, more than 3,000 deaths, just three months ago that was half, 6,790 cases, 1,600 deaths. there's the stats, up on the screen right there. in three months, basically doubled. what do you anticipate, doctor? >> if we are not able to
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properly follow public health guidelines, wearing a mask and socially distancing, i don't particularly see the situation in the state getting much better. eric: that is a sad commentary, certainly hope you can get it under control. dr. sarah mccool in georgia this afternoon for us. thanks so much, doctor. and thank you for your insight. >> absolutely. thank you. arthel: eric, another pandemic, financial crisis could be on the horizon. next, what some of the nation's biggest banks doing to protect themselves from a wave of loan defaults. just over a year ago, i was drowning in credit card debt. sofi helped me pay off twenty-three thousand dollars of credit card debt. they helped me consolidate all of that into one low monthly payment. they make you feel like it's an honor for them to help you out.
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wells fargo are setting aside a collective $28 billion preparing for defaults by businesses and individuals. jean marks is with us now, cpa for the marks group and small business consultant. let me start on this. is this the right move by these banks or could it negatively enhance the hardship for small businesses and individuals, especially those having trouble securing loans in the first place? >> hi, arthel. i don't think it's a bad move for the banks at all. i mean, banks have to be conservative as to what they think their loan viability is going to be. making reserves like this is a completely normal practice. it's a little abnormal now, because the economy is so bad, they're adding to the reserves. i think it's a good thing, i think it adds to earnings. prudent business people think ahead and they make reserves for
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these kinds of things. i don't think it's a bad thing at all. arthel: gene, are these large banks like chase, citigroup, wells fargo granted additional federal protection if businesses can't pay back loans. >> it depends on the loan, arthel. as a business owner if you got a paycheck protection loan, those are all federally backed. even if the bank -- if you default on the loan, whatever's left after forgiveness, the bank wouldn't have to incur any liability. but for other -- most other individual loans, no, the banks are on their own. they hand out loans to you and me for mortgages, cars, small businesses, unless they were part of that specific program most of them are exposed and that's why the banks have to reserve for them. arthel: according to a report in the wall street journal, these banks are stockpiling cash to prepare for an unemployment rate that will remain at double digits well into next year, plus a slower recovery in gross
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domestic product than the bank economists assumed three months ago. not only would this be disastrous for so many americans personally, but if these banks are onto something, gene, can our overall economy survive such a financial tsunami of bad news? >> well, right now the markets are still fairly positive, arthel. but the banks themselves, they -- if you're in the banking industry, your whole reason of managing, the whole basis of managing your financials is to avoid risk and to minimize your exposure. the very fact they're taking these reserves, it's not a great time for the economy but as an accountant myself it's the kind of thing we recommend to our clients, to make sure they're taking these reserves. but you know, you bring up an interesting point. arthel. if you're an individual or you're a small business owner and you think that you may be defaulting on your loan, it is really important to be proactive about that. you should be reaching out to
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your banker now, just because they're reserving for the loans doesn't mean that you're going to be off the hook and the earlier you can have a process of refinancing these loans and working things out with your banker, the much better it's going to be for you in the long term and the much less effect it will have on your long-term credit score so be proactive if you think you're one of the people that might be defaulting on one of your loans. arthel: that's a good point. is it possible if you can make an arrangement with the bank, maybe reduce your debt, maybe they'll forgive or writeoff a portion of your debt so you can decrease the amount you owe the bank? >> writing off the amount, that remains to be seen. i can tell you this much, the bankers, many of them are willing to work with clients. they know these are difficult times. they don't want to put debt into default. it's a parc pain for them to cot it. they would like to work stuff out with you too. again, if you really feel that you're in trouble, economically,
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both personally and in your business, talk to your banker now. there's nothing wrong with doing that. you're doing them a favor and you're doing yourself a favor and the long run it will work out better for both of you. arthel: very good. i also was reading in the new york times, and they are reporting that $130 billion in small business aid still has not been used, the owners are becoming reluctant to borrow from the federal paycheck protection program. some are even returning the money. they're citing the guidelines are too restrictive and the on of presentation is just too chaotic. however, as you know, gene, congress is contemplating additional ppp and would be a fifth coronavirus stimulus package. but this time around the ppp would be more targeted more for small businesses and unlike before, those small businesses are not required to retain employees. so this may not keep some people employed. but will it help keep some small businesses open? >> so a couple things, first of
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all. it frustrates me when i hear that business owners are not applying for the ppp loans, particularly when they're eligible. the kind of forgiveness now is 24 weeks, half a year. most of the clients i know that have gotten ppp loans, the process has become much easier and most of them are going to be getting full forgiveness. even if you don't get full forgivenesses. lelandforgiveness, the amount oe loan, whatever's left over, it's a 1% interest rate over the next five years. it's almost free money you're getting from the government. if you're hesitant about getting the ppp loan and you're trying to keep your business going, please don't be. please talk tour banker and apply. you have until august 8th to do so. to your other point, congress is considering changes to the ppp loan. they're looking to allow some businesses maybe to get a second loan in certain industries, like restaurant owners and shop owners. and even secretary mnuchin said to a house committee yesterday that he favors forgiving all ppp loans that are under $150,000.
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and i've written about that before. i think that's the direction that the paycheck protection program is going to go if you're a very small borrower, you might not have to go through the process of forgiveness. so please apply if you are still eligible to do so. arthel: we got the word out. gene marks, thank you very much. and we'll be right back. >> thanks, arthel.
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eric: more protests and unrest last night, happened in shy cayo and portland. cops newsed pepper spray in chicago. in oregon, the state's attorney general are suing officers who moved into portland. christina coleman is live in los angeles. hi, christina. >> reporter: our fox affiliate in chicago is reporting 18 officers were injured and 12 protesters were arrested friday night as a crowd of people tried to tear down a statue of christopher columbus. chicago's mayor say they hope they can strike a balance of expressing themselves in a way that doesn't put anyone's physical safety at risk. she notes there were claims of excessive force by police.
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that's also a point of contention in portland. late last night, oregon's attorney general filed a lawsuit against federal authorities alleging some of them violated civil rights by detaining people without probable cause during the unrest. last night was chaotic again. police say some protesters shot off fireworks and smoke bombs towards the justice center and several arrests were made. local leaders are resisting help from dhs saying the feds are agitating the situation. mark morgan does not agree. >> it's attitude and policies like that that beget the violence. the argument that the presence of federal officers and agents causes violence, that is outrageous and ridiculous. >> reporter: video on social media of two agents without name tags grabbing a suspect and putting him in an unmarked minivan has gotten a lot of criticism, even though the feds say this person was suspected of
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arthel: the tributes continue pouring in after the death of an american icon and a trailblazer, georgia congressman john lewis died yesterday after a battle with pancreatic cancer. he was 80 years old. and today, he is being remembered as a giant in the civil rights era who continued to champion his causes from the halls of congress, for more than three decades. hello, everyone, this is a brand-new hour of america's news headquarters. i'm arthel neville. eric: hi, arthel. hello, everyone. i'm eric shawn. thank you for joining us this afternoon. you know, congressman lewis may be best known for what happened on that march on the edmund pettis bridge in selma, alabama, bloody sunday. state troopers beat louis which iwhichis and other -- lewis andr
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marchers. the brutality shocked the nation and led to the enactment of the voting rights act. lewis continued the struggle from staging sit-ins to eventually taking the fight for equality to capitol hill as a member of congress itself. house majority whip james clyburn speaking of losing not only an american icon but also a dear friend. >> the country lost a hero last night. we lost an icon. i lost a personal friend. john was one of those people who internalized nonviolence. many of us practice it. but john lived it. eric: steve harrigan is live in atlanta, a city represented by the congressman since 1987. steve. >> reporter: eric, john lewis'
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journey began 80 years ago in the segregated south in rural alabama, the third of 10 children. both parents were sharecroppers who worked for a white farmer. he was inspired at a young age by dr. martin luther king, sent him a letter, received a bus ticket. he began in nashville, tennessee. he tried to help integrate lunch counters. he was knocked off a lot of the lunch counters. in 1961 he tried to integrate interstate bus service. at one point, beaten by a crowd of whites outside a montgomery bus station, left unconscious in a pool of his own blood. 1963, he was the youngest speaker along with reverend martin luther king on the march in washington, just 23 years old. as you mentioned, best known nor the march, the bloody sunday march, 1965 in selma. he led 600 peaceful demonstrators for voting rights, got attacked and beaten by state trooper as well as civilians.
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his skull fractured, trying to get up, he was beaten again. it was that television footage that shocked the nation and galvanized activity for the voting rights act of 1965. people have been coming here all day to pay respects. we spoke to several people, asked for their thoughts. >> i think the younger generation is now feeling -- seeing the struggles and wanting to be a part and do more. so we're hoping that together everyone will be able to achieve more and do more and be a better united states of america. >> reporter: president clinton released this statement, john lewis gave all he had to redeem america's unmet promise of equality and justice for all. and to create a place for us to build a more perfect union together. in so doing, he became the conscience of the nation. time and time again, especially throughout the early 1960s, john lewis gave his physical body for civil rights, taking beatings, being imprisoned and in the course of that changing u.s. history.
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eric, back to you. eric: he was back at that bridge in march even though he suffered from pancreatic cancer, for the very last time. steve, thank you. arthel. arthel: thank you. for more on the passing of congressman john lewis, the civil rights icon, we go to juan williams, a fox news political analyst and co-host of the five, he is also the author of eyes on the prize, america's civil rights years. and juan, i mean, your book is a bible on the civil rights movement. so i want to start by getting you to tell us how a young john lewis and the highly regarded congressman lewis helped change the course of history, civil rights and our of nation as a whole. >> arthel, you know, that's a fascinating question. two thoughts come to my mind. first, clearly, this is a man as you just heard from -- you know, on the report, that had real physical bravery, he was never was afraid literally as people
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were attacking to literally stand in the way and say this is what i want to accomplish and understand the consequences. so in terms of physical bravery, that certainly stands out. but there's also the idea that he was principled. that he was clear about what he stood for. you just heard mention of his stand for nonviolence and throughout his life, he came to per son phi this. those are the kind of principles that i would associate so much with john lewis, that made him a hero to people of all persuasions, all political brands in this country. i would say, though, that if you were looking at it the other way, just in pure terms of history, arthel, i would say 1960, one of the founder offs the student nonviolent coordinating committee that went on to lead many of the sit-ins and the bus rides you heard about and, again, take principled stands and always act in terms of bravery. then 1963, he speaks right
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before dr. king at the great march on washington. yeah, that's john lewis, the same man and when he speaks, the older people have to tell him to tone it down for fear of alienating anyone. you can imagine john lewis, he's a non-violent man as we remember him today. but back then he was young and urgent and making demands, so dr. king and others were trying to say, john, take it easy, we have to be persuasive, not demanding in that way. one final date, 1965. you heard about what happened on the edmund pettis bridge. i want to underline something, just so important. judgment at newe envelope ur e - nuremberg was showing on a sunday night. that's when the video came across of what took place that sunday afternoon. john lewis in the middle of it, troopers honors back, with
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sticks -- horseback with sticks, attacking the marchers. you we could look at what happened in germany, now we could look at what was happening in america. as you heard from steve harrigan, that's a moment that so many american hearts just changed in a flash and said this is intolerable. you heard president johnson stand up and say we shall overcome. we're going to get this done and so the voting rights act then all of a sudden is on a fast pace to become reality. arthel: that junction take juxf the programming and the real-time images much needed at that time in our history. so listen, as a genuine connector and a moral compass, in which direction, juan, does congress now go with the passing of congressman lewis? >> well, this is an interesting question. because we live in such racially tense times in the aftermath of the george floyd death, the
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black lives matter and all the politics that surround protests and people that want to associate it with violence and the like. i'm going to avoid that for a second. i think today we should try to look beyond the political. i'd say there's the voting rights act has really been weakened and there's a great deal of pushing and shoving about can we make it good for this time. i guess it's too late for this coming election. boy, if there was ever a living memorial to john lewis, it would be that we put some strength back into the voting rights act and protect the voting rights of all americans. so many people saw john lewis as the conscience of congress. so when you think of john lewis, you may not realize it but there are republicans and democrats who would go and have private conversations with congressman lewis, because they saw him as almost a father figure on capitol hill, someone who was a man of conscience. when i spoke about physical
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bravery and moral bravery, it was the moral bravery as a politician, not worried about the next vote or the next election. but trying to stand up for what's right for america that made john lewis such a standout as a member of congress. arthel: i certainly wasn't trying to drag you down a political road but you answered the question that i was trying to ask, which is the fact that now his memory and legacy is being spotlighted so prominently and well-deserved, that perhaps that could have our leaders say, you know what, guys, remember the days when we walked across the aisle, we did everything together as one, as americans, maybe that is going to infuse something, his passing will infuse more of that in the halls of congress. and juan, i want to end by asking you if you would share any personal encounters you had with john lewis, your observations and take away our lessons learned. >> arthel, you know, i guess it was about two or three years ago
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congressman lewis and i were on a congressional delegation, traveling through the south to go look at civil rights sites and he's from alabama. and so when we went into alabama, mayor montgomery, into montgomery, specifically and he was -- by the way, his family, sharecroppers from just outside montgomery. when we were in alabama, just to be with john lewis, to talk to john lewis about the black experience of not only slavery but then sharecropping and what he experienced, this is a man who lived american history. and as a result, to be with john lewis, to talk to him at -- we were together, i did an interview with him at tuscaloosa and it's just like you're looking into -- i don't know how to describe it.
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imagine a book comes to life. imagine if you were inside the bible and suddenly all those figures were alive and talking to you, arthel. and you felt like this is beyond anything i can imagine. you know, in living color. that's what it was like to be with john lewis. he would just sit there and talk to you and you think you're talking to a friend but it's like talking to someone who lived through the most grueling, passionate parts of american history. arthel: a man who lived american history. man, juan, when you said that, that gave me chill bumps, i tell you what, goose bumps. juan williams, what a time. i appreciate you and your at the tenacity. thank you, juan williams. i need coffee. you've got to excuse me on that. here's my coffee. >> arthel, thank you for having me. much appreciated. arthel: absolutely. thank you for obliging my request. eric, now to you.
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eric: living history right there in front of you and talking with him, amazing. now to the white house where in august of 1963 john lewis stood in the oval office. he was with dr. martin luther king, other leaders, from the march on washington. they were meeting with president john f. kennedy, now president trump has ordered all american flags to be flown at half staff nationwide in honor of the the late congressman and tweeted out his condolences. david spunt is live from the north lawn with the very latest from there. >> reporter: good afternoon. president trump is back at the white house after golfing this morning with south carolina senior senator lindsey graham. shortly after finishing golf, the president did tweet as you mentioned about congressman john lewis. he said saddened to hear the news of civil rights hero john lewis passing, melania and i send our prayers to he and his family. this morning the president ordered flags on all federal property in the united states and abroad to remain at half staff through today.
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this is on the roof of the white house this morning. vicvice president mike pence, a former house colleague of lewis said the following in a statement. i want to read part of it. john lewis will be remembered as a giant of the civil rights movement whose selflessness and conviction rendered our nation into a more perfect union and his example will inspire generations of americans. while john lewis will be rightly remembered as an icon of the civil rights movement, for me he was also a colleague and a friend, even when we differed john was always unflailingly kind and my family and i will never forget the privilege of crossing the edmund pettis bridge by his side on the 45th an verse i of bloody sunday. lewis came to congress 33 years ago but promoted nonviolent demonstrations 25 years before setting foot inside the capital as a member of congress. congressman lewis, no stranger to the building behind me.
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he was close with president jimmy carter, also former president barack obama, had been in the oval office many times. first time in the oval office, august 1963 with president john f. kennedy, just three months before the president passed away. eric. eric: inauguration stand when president obama was inaugurated, he hugged him and was very close with congressman lewis and said that i wouldn't be here if it were not for you. >> he did. eric: thank you. >> you bet. arthel: the democratic party taking another major step toward down-sizing their national convention amid the surging pandemic. officials sending letters to democrats in congress, asking them not to attend next month's convention in milwaukee. so now, as few as 300 people are expected to attend, guaranteeing the event will be mostly virtual. let's get details from jacqui heinrich. hey, jacqui. >> reporter: hey, arthel.
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yeah, that announcement was expected but it formalized those scaled-back plans, now only 300 people expected to attend the convention, that includes news media and party workers. programming will reportedly be significantly reduced from six hours of daily speeches to three. the new york times reports much of it will be pretaped and no former presidential candidates will be there. kellyanne conway took shots at it. >> they went from 50,000 to 300 which is legitimately a small second wedding where i come from. it is not a national consistent vefnlings it's not the way we should be electing our president. >> reporter: ahead of the dnc, biden started receiving classified intelligence briefings. following reports that russia offered bounties to kill american soldiers, he said he would request them. last month biden said the trump administration had not offered access to the briefings which are traditionally provided to
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party nominees. biden plans to accept the nomination at the convention. he warned foreign actors are attempting to undermine the election telling reporters we know from before and i guarantee i know now because i get briefings again, the russians are engaged in trying to delegit delegitmize our electoral process. he didn't divulge specifics on what kind of interference is allegedly happening. he has criticized president trump for being differential to president putin and for allowing china to downplay the severity of the coronavirus early in the pandemic. ahead of donal president trump's interview, the biden campaign purchased ads in swing states, promising folks there that his administration if elected will not abandon those states during this pandemic. arthel. arthel: of course, i'll be watching and everyone hopefully will be watching chris wallace's
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interview tomorrow on fox news sunday. jacqui heinrich, thank you. eric. eric: well, the rise in coronavirus infections is reigniting the debate on when should students be back in the classroom. schools across the country face that decision on how to resume classes in the fall. up next, how do we know when your kids should be back in school? blastblank
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arthel: the pandemic showing no signs of letting up, as infections are still rising. the u.s. recording over 3.6 million confirmed cases and more than 139,000 deaths. florida remaining the nation's top virus hot spot with more than 10,000 new cases in a 24 hour period. 10,000 new cases in a day. all this as the world health organization announces more than 7,000 new virus related deaths across the globe, the largest single day increase since may 10th. aishah hasnie is live in new york city where new images of late night parties and large crowds are drawing some complaints ahead of the city's
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phase four reopening set for monday. aishah, give us the details. >> reporter: hi, arthel. so, yes, we have not seen any major spikes here in new york city as of yet but the mayor deeply troubled and expressing some concern over videos coming out of queens. let's show you what we've gathered so far. crowds of hundreds of people packing the streets in queens, neighbors explaining too many people are standing and social socializing without wearing masks. i saw videos on twitter of people selling alcohol out of car trunks. mayor de blasio tweeting this is unacceptable, new yorkers have made too many sacrifices to fight covid-19, we can't let up now. adding we'll be out to make sure restaurants are doing their past. florida's miami-dade has more covid cases than any county in new york city. it will start fining people there $100 if they're not wearing a mask in public.
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miami beach is issuing an 8:00 curfew as large crowds were reported at nightclubs and restaurants. residents telling usa today no one is wearing a mask. more than 337,000 cases, nearly 5,000 deaths in the sunshine state. here's governor de santis earlier today. >> we've also advised limiting large groups. those are advisories. those are not punitive. and i think if you look, we have in most of the places that have most of the cases like miami-dade and broward, they've had compulsory mandates in place since april. so that's actually been in place. but we're doing advisory and we're not going to be prosecuting people. >> reporter: these are coming from miami-dade and broward counties. now, right next door to florida, georgia just hit a highest single day increase in cases, 4,689. >>4,689. that brings it to nearly 140,000 in total.
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and texas is also taking a beating. 85 babies all under the age of 1 years old tested positive for covid-19 in just one county. arthel. arthel: unbelievable. and you know what? advisory is one thing but some people won't follow rules unless there are real consequences. aishah hasnie, thank you. eric. eric: arthel, parents and kids, well they're in a bit of a pickle facing an upcoming school year like none we've ever had, except maybe in 1918 during the spanish flu epidemic. many school districts are delaying reopen offings or weighing partial returns to the classroom. many schools are scrambling, trying to get laptops and tablet expwoointo the hands of the kid, often coming up short. what do we do? annette anderson joins us now. good to see you. thank you for joining us. bottom line, what are the
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standards for safety in order for the kids to safely and appropriately return to the classroom? >> well, i think there are a couple of measures that have to be considered. first, i think there's a public health message that we have to get out around safety in terms of returning to school. so i think that there are a lot of public health professionals right now that are working to determine what those levels would be and they're working with school officials to think through that. but i also think from the school perspective, schools have got to show to parents and teachers that schools are safe to reopen of. and so that's not just a public health piece but it is also looking at the academic pieces, also looking at the capacity pieces in terms of the facilities and the operations. so i think taken together, i think that will help to answer the questions around what the standards should be for reopen offing schools i physically in e fall. eric: what do you think would be safe? not just the six feet distancing, but requiring the
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kids to wear masks, splitting the days so you don't have as many in the classroom at one point, teaching outside, they did that back in 1918, using the gym for larger spaces and this sort of thing. what would you like to see schools do before they open? >> i would like to see schools partner with parents and i would like to see schools partner with teachers. i had said before that i think that we need to invite parents into the classrooms to see what socially distanced classrooms look like. i think we need to invite the parents in to walk the hallways to see what the cafeteria spaces would look like. i think we need to have parents experience what a pe class would look like. as much as we can, parents need to be reassured that their children are going to be safe in the fall, if they physically return to a building. the only way they can be reassured by that is by having parents physically come into the mrs. to do -- buildings to do that. i think some schools are working to offer that, like
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back-to-school night is an opportunity to bring parents into the building. i think we need to think about how we do that in a socially distanced way and i think that we need to have parents looking at plans to answer questions and having townhalls like many schools are doing to try to answer questions before hand and after they invite the parents in, have parents given them feedback about things they have questions about. there are a lot of unanswered questions from parents on some of these very nuanced topics and schools are trying to respond to that. they are pivoting quickly to try to answer these questions but i think that there has to be two way communication between parents and students. eric: that's a great point, that parents -- involving parents in the process. here's dr. fauci talking about this when he spoke just the other day. >> we're going to do whatever we can to get the schools open and the children back to school but always remember that safety and the health of the children and the teachers comes first. and i think if we keep that in
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mind, we'll go a long way to getting the schools open safely. eric: president trump has said that schools must open in the fall. he has said the cdc guidelines he thinks are too tough, are impractical, too expensive and there is a push to try to get the kids back in the classroom. do you think that is possible? >> i think parents are voting with their feet. i think for first time in a long time, i think parents are making choices about what is best for their household. i think they are looking at the information that they have and thinking about the risk factors that affect their households and making determinations based on that information. and that's the way schools are supposed to engage families. it's supposed to be a partnership between schools and parents. so it's wonderful to see parents saying i'm listening to all the information, i'm processing, i'm discussing it within my family, within my household but i will make the best determination for what happens in my family and in my household and i will not be
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influenced by what other ofs say i have to do. and you're starting to see this as a movement that parents really are starting to say that we have to think through what the best opportunities and options are for our children to get an education. eric: it's an educational process for the parents also. annette anderson, deputy director of the johns hopkins university center for safe and healthy schools, thank you for your insight as we get ready for fall. >> thank you. arthel: thank you. up next, more on the life and legacy of congressman and civil rights icon, john lewis. this time, we'll look back at his influence after more than three decades in congress. >> the day where you walk arounarmin arm across this brido one will beat us, no one will hurt us and call us name. history reminds us that on march 7th, 1965, we were ready to
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arthel: politicians on both sides of the aisle offering tri bouts to congressman john lewis, today the flags on capitol hill have been lowered in honor of the the lawmaker who served his constituents for 33 years. the congressional black caucus speaking out about the passing of congressman john lewis, saying in a statement, quote, the world has lost a legend. joining me now is wisconsin congresswoman, jenny moore who is a member of the congressional black caucus. i want to thank you for joining us. if you would, start by telling us how you and the congressional black caucus will honor mr. lewis' legacy and continue the passionate trails that he blazed. >> thank you so much for having
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me on this day. and giving me honor to speak about the honorable john robert lewis. one of the way that's we have already internalized the john lewis spirit and ethic as being the congressional black caucus, often known as the consistent shuns of the congress and certainly johnly which is was the center -- john lewis was the centerpiece of that. you have to think about a man who was beaten almost to death on the edmund pettis bridge, a bridge named for a confederate general and the man who participated in the beating came to him years later and apologized and they hugged and wept in each other's arms in reconciliation. i mean, who does that? john lewis. and so even when there were partisan debates and battles, john lewis was always the person who had the moral authority to
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really bring the body around to the real moral and ethical questions of any sort of legislation that was on the floor. and he was the north star for many people and i'm sure you could hear many republicans that you put on today. arthel: absolutely. martin luther king the third said if you want to honor john lewis, ensure that every vote counts and everyone can vote and that's ahead of a presidential election in two and-a-half months. so where -- this election already where the security and validity of mail-in voting is under attack. so how can congress ensure mr. king the third, his wishes that voting in this election will be safeguarded. >> you know, i think john lewis really lived through a tremendous era of his life and even had the opportunity to see the global reaction to the murder of george floyd. but i can tell you, he was
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plenty worried about hr-1, the bill really to restore voting rights. that really was his battle cry throughout his career, what he really risked his life for with sit-ins and with the voter registration drives, his activity and the right to vote. and so he didn't get to see that and the threat of there being millions of people who won't be able to vote are already unfolding and we see that primarily through a president that continues to promote a false narrative that somehow voting from home is fraudulent and it will be rife with crime and fraud. and the unwillingness on the part of the president and the republicans to provide the money, some of which are in the
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herheroes act that we saved pubc schools and state and local governments, i heard your earlier segment about opening up schools, none of that could happen and certainly we could use those monies right now to make sure that elections are safe and the post office is able to deliver and so john lewis would be plenty concerned about that. so if we want to honor him, let's have some election integrity. arthel: and congresswoman, throughout your career you have been fighting for those who have been overlooked, dismissed or treated unfairly. i want to get personal and ask you, what did congressman lewis impress upon you as a political leader and as a person? >> well, today i am looking through pictures, many pictures that i have with john lewis. this was one of the -- this was a dress i wore on a very hot summer day as we were protesting not passing gun violence in the
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house and we had protested on the floor. i had been -- john lewis had been to jail, i don't know, 40 of, 50 times, -- 40, 50 times, i went to jail with him one of those times. he's someone who really came from the school of nonvie vent protests and you really do have to put your body in the way, put yourself in the way and i think he was very, very proud of the young people who are protesting peacefully now, you know, and as feeble as he was in the last days, he took himself down to black lives matter plaza and i'm sure that energized him and i think he is very, very, very proud of people who did what he did and that was to pick up the baton. it is so impactful to me that reverend vivian passed just a day earlier and the two of them
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were just buddies in really challenging segregation and inequality and i am a person who learned from john lewis and i have -- and i have sewn values in young elected officials around the state and around the country as well. the struggle continues and i think john lewis would be -- i think he is proud of what is happening now. arthel: congressman lewis and dr. vivian marched on home together. >> our ancestors have left us with a road map. arthel: thank you, congresswoman gwen moore. >> thank you. arthel: we'll be right back. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪
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>> those of who practice are going to find themselves shaped in world history. the time has come to stand up to these bullies and these murderers. eric: that's former mayor of new york city, the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, last year attending a rally of the national council of resistance of iran. he speaks there every year. this year the event called the free iran global summit was held virtually because of coronavirus. but the message is the same, calling for the end of the iranian regime and crediting president trump's maximum pressure campaign against iran for progress. marianne rajavi is the group's leader. >> we believe things can change in iran with iranian people and resistance. we expect the international community to adopt a firm policy
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against the regime in iran to recognize the rights of the iranian people to resist against tyranny and to stand with them in their quest for peace. eric: former mayor rudy giuliani joins us now. mr. mayor, good to see you. you supported -- >> good to see you. eric: of course. you too. you supported the group for years. you spoke many times. what did you tell them this year about iran? >> well, you know, i told them this year that we're getting closer and we're getting closer for reasons that almost will be a surprise to people in america. the mainstream media does the work of iran. i think because obama was so favorable to iran, the mainstream media has become apolapologiesing for iran. there's been protests every two days in iran. they've killed in the first year, they killed 1500 people. now it's harder to get
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statistics. last week they killed 13 people in protests. every city in iran has had a protest. the protests almost always get violent on the part of the iranian authorities. they shoot and kill people in a protest. nothing like the issues we have here in america. and if you're nek, the sentence is death on site. so we've lost since the protesters began, we've lost about 1200 identifiable people who either were nek or there are some cases where they suspect some poor person of being nek but wasn't and they slaughter them. this is a regime beyond anything in the world. eric: the nek, the national council of resistance in iran. it's been a controversial group. was once on the terrorism group in the u.s. >> no question. eric: as you said, tehran calls them terrorists. >> eric, who is going to do
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this but a controversial group? they've lost 20 of thousand of their -- 20,000 of their members. you don't do this unless somebody comes against you. these are extraordinarily brave people. you know them. you've met them. they're not terrorists. they were taken off the terrorist list 10 years ago. that was all done with a big, stupid deal with crooked clinton and finally got straightened out 10 of years later. if you talk to anybody in the american military, anybody, from general jack keane, who spoke yesterday, my most respected member of the military, to anyone else, they'll tell you this group helped us more in iraq than anybody even more than european allies. they lost their own lives for us. this is an american group. they want a free iran. they want a nonnuclear iran. they want an iran that allows rights for women which is why they have a president -- interim president who is a woman, a great woman by all means. and they have twice attempted to
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assassinate. so i'm pretty close to -- they did that twice in 2018, once in albania. those people have been arrested and convicted. once, you remember, two years ago, we had 100,000 people in paris and the morning of the rally they arrested four people including an iranian diplomat coming there to blow up. so this is a very dangerous group. and we got the message out yesterday, was the largest virtual zoom conference ever. i think we're in the guinness book of records. we reached millions of people. and the thing that we do, that people don't realize, we go into iran. they have terrific equipment. these are brilliant people. we go into iran. every city, and we broadcast in iran and i get letters from iran and -- eric: you mentioned a woman, her name is marianne rajavi. there was an assassination attempt at the event you were at
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last month. here she is talking about her group. >> the resistance has exercised the need to restore the u.s. security council resolution again, call for the international arm embargo against the regime. eric: do you think we will see the day when the iran regime will fall? >> just like we saw the day in poland, soviet union and the berlin wall fall, and we woke up the next morning and said how did this happen? this is -- i can feel it. i know how tenuous that hold is and i know how strong and determined these people are and how well-funded they are. this is not a group to be taken lightly. and america should give it more support. eric: former mayor rudy giuliani who has been speaking to this group that has been involved in this issue for quite
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protests on the streets of portland, oregon last night, police using tear gas to break up demonstrators. the protesters have gone nightly for seven weeks. local officials are feuding over the response to the mayhem. christina is live with more. >> last night police said protesters shot off fireworks before the justice center and arrests were made. have been unrest for nearly two months including vandalism and alleged attacks on officers. local leaders are resisting help, saying they are agitating the situation. last night, generals filed a lawsuit against authorities alleging some of them violated civil rights by detaining people without probable cause during the protest. video on social media, to agents without nametags grabbing a
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suspect and putting him in an unmarked minivan gun criticism even though the fed say they were suspected of assault against agents or destruction of property. democrats condemning the actions including organs democratic congressional delegation. today the commissioner mark said federal authorities aren't even in portland to restore law and order because of the ongoing protests. her ongoing violence, rather. >> thank you very much. eric: that did it for us for now but we will be back tomorrow at noon and 4:00 p.m. eastern here on the fox news channel. >> fox report with jon scott is up next after the break. ♪ ♪when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion,♪
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he might be gone but his legacy will live on. the country is in mourning as we reflect on the life of john lewis, congressman and civil rights icon

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