downtown this fall and if we can just chicago. we can help them and provide that financial solution play ball. burgess owens, great to have you over the weekend, 63 people were shot in chicago, 12 were killed. on the program tonight. thank you. that's going to do it for me another weekend of filling in for my friend for they and their families.e record-setting violence. many of those shootings happened in broad daylight. martha maccallum. this has been "the story" we can definitively say that and that respect and that love for the veteran monday, july 20, 2020. there are people alive tonight who will be dead next week in that makes this company so unique. as always, the story will chicago. it's a tragedy. continue. ♪ one of the city's leaders doing >> tucker: good evening and about it? nothing. the mayor of chicago, a total welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." good to be back. one thing we learned while gone incompetent called lori lightfoot is instead feuding with the administration is that america's national parks are outstanding. in promoting a fictional census they are tremendous. so is the interstate highway cowboy character in order to boost your city's population counting this year's census. system. in the end, the real reason we people are fleeing chicago, taxpayers especially. have a government, the only reason really is so we can live in peace. the great benefit of nearby wisconsin. if you live in the area, you you pay your taxes, a lot of taxes come in order to keep your know. lightfoot is pretending it's not happening and trying to divert family safe from chaos. that's the bottom line. attention to an argument she's you can drive your kids to having with president. school without getting carjacked she told msnbc she will do all or walked to the supermarket she can to stop the ministry without worrying about being from setting federal law enforcement agents including raped. a lawsuit.

when a violent mob shows up outside your house that insanity. threatens to kill you, you know you can call the police and they will come to your defense. so if you're looking for original thinking or bravery or that's what you pay for and that's what government is for. the rest of it is extra. integrity, obviously you're not for centuries, that's been the looking to hollywood or the deal that we strike with our music industry. there is none of that they are. leaders. everyone knows it. most famous people march in suddenly out of nowhere they've perfect lockstep with the current cultural trends, changed the rules. whatever they are. so it's unusual to see a when the mob came from mark and patricia mccloskey in st. louis a few weeks ago, they called the genuinely famous person like police without expectation but kanye west openly defying the the police never came. orthodoxy, but he has. you're looking at their smashed adam carolla has been there for fence. they had no choice but to defend many years. he knows what it's like to think freely in the middle of themselves. los angeles is a famous person. >> keep moving! he's the author of a new book "i'm your emotional support let's go! >> keep moving! animal," which by the way he is. adam carolla joins us tonight. >> let's go! adam, thanks a lot for coming on. without endorsing all that kanye west said and i'm not even aware of all he said or >> tucker: the mccloskeys were endorsing kanye west as a person, what do you make of exercising the most basic right of all, the ancient and someone that famous saying things that unpopular? immutable right to self-defense. >> you know, i always liked this

you'd think they would be lauded for that. saying which is mine which is but they haven't been. they have been attacked. everyone knows there's something the prosecutor in st. louis, called butter if you money. totally politicized kim gardner, but he has f me money. promised to retaliate against the mccloskeys for daring to he has so much money he can say whatever he wants even if it's defend themselves. >> i am disturbed by the events to his detriment. that occurred over the weekend whether you agree with it or where there were peaceful not, i find it refreshing that protesters met with guns and a someone is speaking their mind. violent assault. since learning of these events i had a really scary moment this over the weekend, i worked with the public and police to morning, not physically scary investigate these tragic events. i will use every extent of but fundamentally scary, spiritually scary. i did a radio interview this missouri law to hold individuals accountable. morning and the guy said to me >> tucker: what you just heard was a lie, every word of it. sort of off the air under his breath, he said you're lucky. the crowd wasn't peaceful. you do a podcast. they barged onto private you can say whatever you want. property, destroy the fence, and and i thought, wait a minute. threatened to kill strangers. it's 2020. the mccloskeys did nothing this is the united states. wrong. they did what they had to do and your broadcaster. what you would have to do in you can't say whatever you want? similar circumstances. the prosecutor wasn't kidding. the notion that people with microphones that are self-defense is no longer allowed in places controlled by broadcasting are lamenting they people like her, the left. can't say whatever they want in this afternoon she followed america in 2020 is scary.

through with her threat and charge the mccloskeys with the unlawful use of a weapon. >> tucker: does it occur to in the state of missouri, that's them, clearly it doesn't, but a felony. why doesn't it that they have a the police have already ceased moral obligation to say what they think is true, not always their firearms. they also search the mccloskey to be right because we are home. once again, the mccloskeys are people. we are often wrong. but you do your best to tell the under attack, not simply from a truth. what happened to that idea? politicized prosecutor but from >> well, i don't know. the entire media establishment. here's a taste. my book outsold eight books that >> the mccloskeys are not an made "the new york times" aberration. best seller list a couple weeks they are not an anomaly. they are not crazy, and they are ago, but i was not included on that list. not random. they are a product of their so maybe speaking your mind is environment. not a great financial move. the american environment save without even leaving your house. maybe talking about the prioritizes white people, white just keep your phone and switch to xfinity mobile. wealth, and white land at the expense of all others no matter fragility of white people or you can get it by ordering a free sim card online. black lives matter, maybe that's how many black folks, poor folks a better way to get paid in this or indigenous folks had to once you activate, you only have to pay for the suffer along the way. city. >> tucker: oh, you got beaten >> these cases are part of a data you need, starting at just $15 a month. by "white fragility." disturbing pattern in this there are no term contracts, no activation fees, probably the worst book i've country avoid people, including ever read, and i say that some who clearly love their guns and no credit check on the first two lines. someone who's read a lot of bad as much as they love their books. i've got to ask about this since get a $50 prepaid card when you switch. privilege, threatening the lives you're in the state of of black people for doing the 5g is now included with all new data options. california. i think of you informally as our most basic everyday activities. switch and save hundreds. xfinity mobile. california correspondent.

>> tucker: grotesque. the status currently these people are monsters. point of fact, the mob was not experiencing a second round of coronavirus shutdowns. have you been weathering them? black. it was mixed race. >> like i weather the first there were white people and round. got up, hugged my kids, and went black people. it had nothing to do with race. to work. the basic everyday activities i'm going to be in dallas this you just heard about, those weekend doing shows. i'll be back in texas the week include unlawful trespassing, destruction of property, after that. terroristic threatens, i just get about my life. threatening to kill them. none of the people who did that it's too short. will face consequences for them. mark mark mccloskey faces four the man has a different set of rules every 10 minutes. i wear a mask when i go into the years in prison and up to a $10,000 crime for the crime of home depot. other than that, i'm figuring defending himself when no one things out for myself and i'm else would. mark mccloskey joins us tonight. living my life. i'm not in a -- i'm not thank you for coming on. i can't imagine how you feel. ♪ compromised. maybe a little mentally, some like you have woken up in a may argue. >> tucker: a lot of news but i'm living my life. country you don't recognize. recently about a resurgence of tell us where you are right now i want to say a quick thank you they will hung coronavirus here in the united states. you're starting to hear some to your viewers, tucker, because legally, if u.n. >> well, it's totally upside after my last appearance on your apologistpoliticians suggestingd show a few weeks ago, my book down world, tucker. the people who broke into my another round of lockdowns. neighborhood were all that question may be moot sold out on amazon the following because researchers in the u.k. trespassing. the guy that recruited it, they planned this event, said the next day that he intended to claim they've developed a viable morning literally 15,000 copies vaccine for the coronavirus. gone because of your audience. break the law, that he needed to break laws in order to send his we turn as we always do to

>> tucker: they are a loyal message. fox news medical contributor audience. none of those people are arrested. none of those people are dr. marc siegel. i noticed, you called me from hey, doctor. charged. >> tucker, this is really big texas the other day. the prosecutor, the circuit you are spending a lot of time attorney has apparently decided news tonight. her job as a prosecutor isn't to i am optimistic about this, and in texas. keep us safe from criminals but do you think in say three years to keep the criminals say from this oxford university vaccine you or any of your neighbors were still be in us. which is a very modern vaccine it's a bizarre upside down wor using genetic material, using a california? >> no. i don't think so. world. i've been a little irritated by different kind of a virus from a i feel like everybody in chimpanzee to bring the payload this process until today and now i am just flat out pissed off. california that pays their in that actually starts the war taxes, the plays by the rules, against the coronavirus. it's outrageous. that's what we are talking about that raises their kids, that's >> tucker: you should be here, tucker, a war. community-based, you get afraid too. the force of the state is coming i've never described a war to down on you for the most basic you this way before. punished. and if you are an empty bag and rights that exist, the right of it's a war in the bloodstream, a you've come here and you're here self-defense. are you going to stay in a place illegally and you do whatever war of our immune cells fighting that seeks to put you in prison a virus. you want, do it all with and if they vaccine works, the impunity, live on the streets, for defending yourself? >> you know, eve what's right. vaccine causes those immune shoot up, wherever. cells to be revved up. i'm not going to be bullied. they will keep walking. i'm not going to be intimidated. the immune cells that we've the cops won't do anything. but the city and the mayor have always talked about are the b cells that make antibodies. it in for you if you're a the left, the mob uses social we are talking antibodies, taxpayer and a good citizen, intimidation and threats to get antibodies, antibodies. then you get punished so i think people to knuckle under and apologize for doing what's this vaccine actually does make right. we are not going to apologize good people can take being those antibodies. they studied 1,000 volunteers. for doing what's right. we are not going to back down punished for a couple years but and we are not going to move. half of them got a meningitis they can't take the life

vaccine and the other half got people need to stand up, wake up this vaccine and they found that and recognize it for what it is. sentence that is california. the people that got this vaccine so i'll probably end up moving it's a concerted effort to destroy our way of life, to made the antibodies that we need to texas and call you from my change the fundamental basic full-time residence. social contract, to do away with called neutralizing antibodies, >> tucker: there is going to to neutralize the virus. be a big reshuffling in this capitalist democracy and replace there's a bigger story here, country very soon a neuron the it with mob rule. cutting edge as always. tucker. congrats on the book. encouraging violence, protecting itsy cell i never talked about criminals from prosecuting people to try to defend before. adam carolla, thank you for that. all of a sudden the media have themselves against it. it's called t cell. those of the real immune ripped off the mask and they are it's a bizarre world. it's time for people to wake up warriors against the virus and they never of course get top supporting violence as a and pay attention to it. billing, right? the t cells. political tactic. they spent the last few months >> tucker: has anyone explained what you were supposed describing riots is mostly to do in a situation where the what does a t cell do? peaceful and provided cover for police would not respond, they one kind of t cell aids those rioting. would not come to protect you antibodies and attacking the they have conservative speakers despite the fact you pay them virus. it's called a helper cell. shut down, their families and private security wouldn't come either, probably for fear the other one, the most harassed. now "the new york times" is prodigious, powerful cell in the planning a new hit on this show. of being sued. what were you supposed to do human body is a natural killer we'll tell you what the story is once people break in and start threatening you? cell. after the break. he deserves the name. >> what various commentators have suggested is we should have it literally attacks the virus and kills it. gone inside and film them with our cell phones. you know they found with this well, do you want to have 300 vaccine? at 14 days and 20 days, they people inside your house found an abundance of those breaking stuff, setting fires antibodies, an abundance of those t cells, a great marker of and killing you or would you rather stop them when they are outside. we chose to stop them from immunity. coming in. >> tucker: what's going to we have to see how this goes

over the several weeks and happen now? do you have a fear of going to months. now it will be tried and 30,000 prison? people around the world. >> you know, i don't know. this is very positive news that we are going to have a working i have very little familiarity with criminal process. vaccine here, tucker. we have gotten support now from the oxford vaccine with the white house on down. astrazeneca involved. governor parson, the senator, eric schmidt, our attorney very, very, very promising. >> tucker: wow and unexpected. general. it seems like the only person in the united states the things we dr. siegel, thank you for that report. did something wrong is our appreciate it. >> follow the science, tucker, surrogate attorney. she is the same person that let not the politics. out of jail everybody that was responsible for the looting and a science. >> tucker: that's been our fires and destruction following view and yours from the first the george floyd death in the day. thanks a lot. city of st. louis. ghislaine maxwell is incarcerated and a friend says the only people she wants to she fears for her life in prosecute are the people that defended themselves against it prison. why would that be? and nobody else to my knowledge. in the united states. >> tucker: so you better fascinating story about which we don't know everything. target of crime. a live report is next. you haven't backed down. you've gone on television repeatedly. people know where you live. and the state has now confiscated your firearms so you can protect yourself. on what grounds did they do that? those were legally registered as far as i understand.

>> i guess the technicality of the law is they have to determine whether or not the weapons were capable of being fatal or causing serious bodily harm. so they have to take them and test them and that sort of thing. there will be some revelations to come out about that but the bottom line is that the police, i've said this before, the police who came out to issue the warrant didn't want to have to do it. they knew they were just doing their job. they were very polite about it but nonetheless, you're right. they present the mob and then strip us of our ability to defend against it. >> tucker: it's almost unbelievable. i appreciate your coming on tonight. godspeed to you and your wife and we will be following it. mark mccloskey, thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: it's been nearly two months is widespread rioting broke out across the united states and it still going in some places. friday night thousands of riders swarmed a christopher combs statue in the city of chicago.

newly released aerial footage shows men dropping off weapons for the rioters who later attacked the police. the police were vastly outnumbered. black clad rioters used on villas as shields and formed a line to march into the crowd and pelted the police with rocks, threw bottles at them. in the end, 18 police officers were injured but only a handful of rioters were arrested. meanwhile in the city of seattle, beautiful place it's completely out of control, rioters brawled with police and destroyed more businesses over the weekend. >> put your phones down! >> put down the [bleep] camera. camera down. camera down mother [bleep]

>> tucker: 200 miles to the south of seattle and portland, oregon, another beautiful city destroyed by the mob, violent mayhem continues. it's been going on for eight straight weeks. >> [bleep] [bleep] >> [cheering] >> tucker: political leaders

and portland are doing nothing to stop this. in fact they are taking the side of the rioters. this is the armed wing of the democratic party. these are their militia. they are blaming the police for the violence. >> i want to also remind you that the police and the fbi have always put provocateurs in crowds, always. it's always been police acting as if they are community members trying to start trouble. because it gives them the authority to brutalize us. >> tucker: that's one way of ♪ looking at it. jason rantz is a seattle-based >> tucker: one more thing radio host and joins us tonight. before we go tonight. thank you for coming on. since this show began a most four years ago i've really tried you'll notice in the last clip, not to talk about myself on the the politician describe the air or even use the first-person rioters as "us."

it does seem like many pronoun. the last thing this country politicians in the pacific northwest, democrats feel that needs is more narcissism. these mob are their supporters. it's not very interesting anyway. people eat who use the word i a >> they are. lot tender for everyone but this is the base that keeps themselves but tonight were going to make an exception to these people in power and it's that rule. not just in the pacific we don't have much choice. northwest. it's all across the country. last week "the new york times" we are seeing it unfold in began working on a story about where my family and i live. minneapolis, chicago, atlanta, as a matter of journalism there new york, d.c. folks who are believers in the is no conceivable justification cause. for a story like that. maybe some of them don't support the paper is not alleging we've done anything wrong and we the actual violence but god haven't we pay our taxes. forbid they actually speak out we like our neighbors. we never had a dispute with against violence because then they believe they are doing a anyone. disservice to their cause. so why is "the new york times" doing a story on the location of so instead of a knowledge of my family's house? what's going on, you have a spineless politicians who want well, you know why. to pretend that own no, it's totally peaceful. to hurt us, to injure my wife i don't know what you're talking and kids so that i will shut up about. any of the violence is being and stop disagree with them. done by the cops although in that case with portland with they believe in force. that clip, antifa members are we learn that. two years ago, a left-wing literally saying that they were responsible for the violence journalism was publicized our home address in washington, a against the police union office group of screaming and screaming that they tried to burn down. antifa lunatic showed up >> tucker: prosecutors have while i was at work. they vandalized our home. this is not some provocateurs in refused to let ghislaine they threaten my wife. the crowd doing this. maxwell, one of the closest she called 911 while hiding in in seattle, you had a bunch of the closet. associates of jeffrey epstein, a few weeks later they showed up out on bail so she remains people who were basically again in our house.

marauding around town. confined tonight, incarcerated. for the next year, they sent they were going towards every now one of her friends so she letters to our home threatening single starbucks and walgreens fears for her life in federal to kill us. and different businesses trying we tried to ignore it and felt to destroy them. custody. fox's chief breaking news cowardly to sell our home and this is nothing to do with correspondent trace gallagher has been on the story and he leave. we raised our kids there the joins us with an update. george floyd. this has everything to do with a >> that family friend of neighborhood and we loved it. but in the end that's what we ghislaine maxwell tells a did. we are four children. newspaper maxwell believes devious ideology that's pushing jeffrey epstein was murdered in it wasn't worth it. marxism and socialism. his prison cell and fears that but "the new york times" and the only way that they can followed us. she will meet the same fate. the paper is assigned a get that is to break down the despite epstein's death being political activist called marie ruled a suicide, it did happen carpenter to write a story about current systems of governance, where we are now. they've hired a photographer under questionable circumstances called kristen's minsky take of capitalism, policing, and like the fact that he was taken rebuild. if they want to rebuild, they pictures. their story about where we live believe they have to get violent off suicide watch days before he is slated to run the paper this and if not violent, they have to died. surveillance cameras near his week. give the threat of violence to cell were faulty, and guards editors there know exactly what stop people from actually falsified records to make it will happen to my family when it speaking up. appear as if they were checking does run. i called them today and i told >> tucker: the cowardice and on epstein every few hours. them. but they didn't care. they hate my politics. complicity of elected officials fox news is also reporting that is awe-inspiring. they want they show off the air. if these were trump voters ghislaine maxwell feared for her armed, salting police officers, life long before she was taken if one of my children gets hurt because of a story the road, civilians, burning things, into custody and that she was they want considered collateral destroying property, tearing guarded round the clock by damage. they know it's the whole point former members of the british down statues, wrecking stores, , of the exercise. military. she bought her new hampshire to inflict pain on our family, would you stand by and say you estate in cash and when the fbi know, i roughly agree with these showed up to arrest her she fled terrorize us, control we say. people politically so i'm not that's the kind of people they going to say anything about it, into a safe room within the are. they were denied of course. or would you stand up and tell compound, though she was quickly they will claim it's just the truth about it? journalism, just the facts. >> you stand up and you tell the found. when she first entered the

truth. metropolitan detention center in really? this whole idea that you've got so how would murray carpenter just a few bad apples in a and his photographer tristen's brooklyn, prison officials placed her on suicide watch and penske for life we told you larger group that's otherwise where they lived, if we put peaceful, i'm sorry, but if i'm gave her paper sheets and pictures of their homes on the part of our movement and you clothing so she could not harm yourself. have 20, 30, 40 people turning now she is reported they were air? what if we publicize the home to violence for over 50 days in wearing normal clothing and address of every one of the portland, i'm not showing up and being moved from cell to cell soulless robot editors of giving credence to that for her safety sometimes with "the new york times" who movement. assigned and manage this incitement to violence against i'm going to identify it for what it is. roommates, sometimes not. my family. what about the media editor, jim too often all across the maxwell's attorneys are also country, whether as portland, went off. concerned about her health, we could do that. saying that the covid-19 risk we know they are. seattle, chicago, atlanta, inside the prison is very high. you've got a lot of people sitting back and saying you know with that qualify as journalism? what, where the silent majority. we are going to fight back. those who accuse ghislaine we doubt they would consider maxwell of grooming them to be i'm sorry, it's unacceptable to the under age sex slaves of journalism. they collect criminal behavior remain the silent majority. if we did it. we need to stand up and be the that tells you everything. vocal majority and we need to jeffrey epstein makes them believe they are on the right path. start pushing back. it is acceptable that we are >> tucker: thank you so much for that. allowing this kind of lawlessness take over american cities and kudos to the trump why did she come back to this it does tell you everything. that's about it for us tonight. administration for sending in country exactly? tomorrow night we're going to she's not stupid and she's rich. have a pretty footage of drones the federal law enforcement in china. chinese government loading officials in portland. hopefully soon in chicago and we'll find out. kanye west is running for hopefully soon in seattle president. affect minorities into train he launched his campaign at a cars and shipping them off to because of the city governments rally in south carolina last aren't going to step up, we can't sit back and allow this night. reeducation camps. remember, as the nfl franchises kind of nonsense. his remarks were not focus and woke megacorporations it's how you lose elections on a grouped. there weren't a lot of local level, staying silent. right now all of these platitudes or cliches. chastise you for your systemic

they were as unusual, in fact as protesters, they are not silent, racism anwhite fragility they at are they? eccentric as the man himself but they are organizing. on what's happening in china. they are out there recruiting in some ways they were members to their cause and remarkable and worth watching. in fact they are benefiting from take a look at this. it. meanwhile we are saying maybe tune in tomorrow night and every i'll send out an angry tweet. night at 8:00 p.m., the show it's got to be more than that. >> freedom does not come from an that is the sworn and totally we need to get organized. sincere enemy of line possibly >> tucker: what you're smugness and groupthink. watching is the biden campaign election. in action. it's hard to know the answers. freedom comes from you not >> sean: thank you. welcome to "hannity." we have an election in a few tonight we've got a busy night. taking percocet. months of november. buckle up. we are tracking multiple is this just stop then? the freedom comes from you breaking stories including bombshell new revelations from does portland, seattle, chicago, putting that gun down and not shooting people at a gas the durham probe. atlanta, minneapolis, did these we are getting there. we also bring the very latest places ever go back to normal? station. it has nothing to do with his election. it only has to do with god and progress in a race for covid-19 when does this end? >> the fear is that this is the new normal and that's why we god's people. >> tucker: huh. vaccine. a lot of hope again tonight in need to start speaking up and the battle against this quote getting a little bit more a celebrity musician tell you engaged. freedom does not come from porn invisible enemy. coming up tonight will have an those of us regardless of our political positions deem it on exclusive interview with the acceptable to tear down cities, missouri governor mike parson. or drugs or pulling a gun on now vowing to pardon mark and burn buildings down, riot and people. patricia mccloskey. loot. if you don't stand up, why does it comes from god. yeah, they were just charged you have one of the most famous with felonies for illegal anyone think this is going to people in the world attacking stop? violence begets violence. the porn industry and big pharma weapon, for trying to defend their home when no police were lawlessness begets lawlessness there. later will have the very latest regardless of the city. on the >> tucker: that's exactly in one speech. right. absolutely wise and always true. he said a lot of things. jason rantz, great to see you. some of them we wouldn't agree

with at all. thank you. a lot of bad news about the wuhan coronavirus this last some unusual proposal made the month but tonight we have some roster, including giving a million dollars to any woman who good news. has a baby but it was dr. siegel is standing by with interesting and may be the most the very latest on that. arresting moment came when plus kanye west opened up his kanye west talked about presidential bid with a rally in abortion. watch this. >> my mom saved my life. south carolina. it's actually a lot more interesting than you would have my dad wanted to abort me. imagined. we will play some of it for you. adam corolla is here to react. that's all straight ahead. my mom saved my life. s what we're doing. they would have been no kanye west because my dad was too busy. a moment. that's something you probably haven't seen before but of course it's never happened. i grammy award-winning musician making an appeal, an emotional appeal against abortion but he was just starting. then he told the crowd about the time he and his wife considered

an abortion themselves. >> she had pills in her hands. up till where you take the pill. the baby is gone. i called my wife and she said we are going to have this baby. i said we are going to have this child. i know people that are 50 years old the didn't have children, didn't have that child, that it never got to experience the level of joy that i experienced having a child. my wife, she brought north into the world even when i didn't want to. >> tucker: no speech writer wrote that. it's a dangerous point if you think about it. they can say they love you. they can tell you your life matters, but if they clutter your neighborhood with abortion clinics, they are lying. that's a real argument.

but no one wanted to engage it of course, so they called him crazy and by the way, maybe he is but it's still a point worth talking about. instead teams he reported many people in kanye west's circle believes needs quote serious help and then cited an anonymous family member who explained he's experiencing a bipolar episode. by the way, maybe he is. we don't know. but doesn't mean what he said is wrong. over on cnn of course they were horrified by. call him crazy as quick as you can before anyone pays attention to what he saying. some guy called dean obadiah tweeted "this is a human being in dire need of help." as if he cares. help for what? for believing that pornography is bad for you, a form of bondage, for encouraging people to get off. scription pills, forgetting emotional as you talk about considering aborting your own child? that's all crazy? huh, then what is saint exactly?

david webb poster radio show on sirius xm. great this year. i want to be clear, i'm not a shrink. i have no idea what kanye west's mental state is and i think there's probably a lot of things kanye west believes that i don't believe that all but he makes points of almost nobody i've ever seen on the campaign podium has made. why isn't anyone talking about those points? >> because, tucker, to your point, they don't want to talk about issues. i am with you. i'm not going to diagnose kanye. i am nothing against connie. as a matter fact, i find him entertaining in this stream of consciousness that he spoke about in the various things like you said some of the outrageous things, like a million dollars, you know, for every baby being born. there's another side to that i would say. birth control, education. it will cost you less than a million bucks. i think you and i can agree on the fiscal conservatism of that but he talks about things that hollywood hypocrites use as

political wedges, as political pawns for ideas and uses them against the people who dare stand up against them, like dean obadiah. first of all, ignore him. kanye has a right to say what he says whether we agree with it or not. i think you agree with that, and he has a right to do whatever he wants if he wants to make a public display in a public appeal. i think his words about abortion, his words about not taking drugs, about guns, he's right. good people with good guns aren't the problem. bad people with bad guns are but then again i don't understand what he says we are a nation of white supremacists which we are not. i think we are dealing with a stream of consciousness from a public figure and i think some interesting things can be discussed. i'd love to sit down with him and do that. >> tucker: i think a million dollars is, you know, a lot for a child. i did it for free. most people do. but i do think it's so interesting that here you have a public figure saying that children are the most important

thing in life in the world. you know, there's nothing more important than children, and he means it. and he's totally right of course, and he's immediately dismissed as a mental patient. has it become that controversial a statement to cnn? >> unfortunately for some it has. think about it, if we work hard in life to achieve well, to achieve station, status, no matter who you are, if you achieve something in life, who do you leave it to? do you leave statues? do you leave your belongings? no, you have children. they are your true legacy. hallmark of the black community in america was always the legacy of your children doing better than you did, coming out of tough times. think about the importance of children to our society. >> tucker: i wonder, i mean, how many poor people at the end of their lives say "i just had too many children"? compare that to the number who

don't -- for whom that's all that matters. in the end that, is there anything else that matters really? i doubt many poor people at the end say i just had too many kids. there's too much love and my family. >> that's absolutely true. come on. america, look around you. the joys of having a family and community. it doesn't come from someone who doesn't procreate. it comes from someone who put something on this planet that goes on to make it a better place. and that's what connie is talking about what he's talking about children. when he talks about his life being saved, instead of being aborted. >> tucker: i would be a lot more enthusiastic about voting republican if some of them talked like that once in a while. david webb. >> we just did and i'm a republican. >> tucker: [laughs] great to see you tonight. thank you. >> great to see you, tucker. >> tucker: adam curl up next. kanye west sort of a hero, a semihero for some social conservatives anyway. that's unexpected.

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>> tucker: the administration tonight is pledging to dispatch hundreds of federal agents took while rising violence in the city of chicago. they say will happen later this week. department of homeland security says it's having 150 agents there to help other federal officials crackdown on crime. crime in chicago is spiraling out of control, and that's not overstating it. friday at more than a dozen