going to make it interesting. bret baier, great to see you, my friend. as you can see, they are setting up for the coronavirus task force. the president will be there. the question is, will have a mask? the white house briefing imminent. here is "the five." >> jesse: hello everybody i'm jesse watters with juan williams, greg gutfeld, dagen mcdowell and emily compagno. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." fox news alert. you're looking live at the white house podium where any minute now president trump will be holding his first coronavirus briefing since april. it could be a boost to his reelection campaign, as cases of the virus continued to spike in the u.s. the president is expected to focus on vaccines and therapeutics and is planning on taking questions from the press.

democrats not happy with the return of the briefings. they are furious at the president is talking directly to the american people. >> donald trump demonstrates every single day not just that he's incompetent. it's also that he's dangerous. people are dying because of this pandemic. >> did you hear that, donald trump? you have created one of the greatest failures in presidential leadership in our country's entire history. when the white house coronavirus briefings resume, president trump should not take the podium. every time president trump takes the podium at one of these briefings, he's a threat to public health. >> jesse: okay. emily, i'm always under the assumption when chuck schumer says the president shouldn't do something, he should do it. >> emily: [laughs] i am of that same ilk. i would slam a full supporter of the return of these briefings and i think it's a great way for

the president to win back those voters he might've lost to a potentially lost confidence in his handling of the pandemic and also to turn around the narrative being pushed by chuck schumer and those on the left that it's handling has been a failure. for this to work, he come in my opinion, needs to do three things. he needs to be realistic, not oversell a vaccine or any timelines and also needs to be prudent and talk about the importance of social distancing and mask wearing and he needs to highlight the successes. sports are slowly returning because they are taking it seriously. i think the more he sticks to the data points, the more he comes forth as a leader and the more it will bode well for him and also potential voters. >> jesse: three great things and i will go to juan williams. i think there was one or two moments in the briefings a few months ago where one of the news reporters asked a horrific question, a total set up. how much blood are you willing

to spill, mr. president? that kind of thing. he handled it really well. he kind of rose above t kind of above her to the american people about how he cared and how compassionate he was. i think if he can do that in a less confrontational way the american people will continue to tune in and get their information from these briefings, juan. >> juan: yeah, i think that's good advice. i liked emily's advice and your advice. to me, the key is that the coronavirus is the number one point of concern for americans today. i don't there's any question about it. a bigger issue than the economy. voters clearly don't think that the president is doing a good job, not with 138,000 people dead. not with the economy still struggling with this virus. what's interesting is the politics because their opinions of the president's handling of

the virus is closely aligned with their choice for president in the presidential race. right now, joe biden is up i think it's plus 17 in the fox poll. 60% of americans in "the washington post" poll say they disapprove of the way president trump has been dealing with the virus. until recently, the white house said he was too busy to attend the coronavirus task force meetings. i guess that's changing, and that's why i think your advice, emily's advice is good. if he can, with data, real information as opposed to making this a new source of rallies or substitute for the convention or just for berating reporters, it would be great for the american people. >> jesse: dagen, you know it strikes me about that poll number, if joe biden were president we probably would've had three times as many dead because he was against the ban from china. so i don't really understand that poll result. do you?

>> dagen: know, and i would like to see the likes of governor cuomo or the five governors who sent covid positive patients back into nursing homes. i'd like to see how they poll with governor cuomo, his vomitus portrait of denial that he had a hand in literally killing thousands of elderly people just in new york state. i'm irritated and bothered by the kind of lethal posture of some of these democrats. have they no shame? they are standing atop the suffering and hardship of the american people for a higher political profile. more love from the chattering classes. we need as a nation to admit that people in government, they have no idea what they are doing. every american is going to have to take responsibility for protecting themselves and even

their elderly loved ones because certainly these democrats didn't do it in places like new york. i know president trump, one thing he's going to do is go to the long list of private companies that are creating vaccines and what the timeline looks like and if you start with astrazeneca, pfizer, merck, johnson & johnson, moderna. >> jesse: it seems the democrats say i would've done everything donald trump did except i would've done it earlier, better, and faster. pretty easy to say. >> greg: i said it yesterday. still waiting for what alternative suggestions they have that counters trump. all they look at is what he doesn't say i could've done it better but none of them offered any real, i don't know, suggestions early on. we shoveled a bunch of democratic narratives in the front of the show and we have to hit that with the data and the

real info, as juan mentions. let us not forget it's new york and new jersey, connecticut, massachusetts that have the worst death rates. these are democratic led states. right now new jersey, new york, and connecticut, they are one-third of the death rate. 6% of the population. these are democratic run, democrat lead. through yesterday, two and a half times more deaths are occurring in democratic states than in republican states. when you have this narrative pushed by the media and then they poll the narrative, they push the narrative that republicans and by connection trump are responsible for badness and then they poll it and say surprise, people are dissatisfied with it. it's because you're running this false narrative. the fact is trump accomplished and -- in america accomplished three things. we set out to flatten the curve and we did and then will make flatten the curve which helped hospitals, we decided we'd get back to work in phases.

no one disagreed with any of this. we were going to work back in phases making adjustments. the media blasted the treatments like hydroxychloroquine and took pleasure in flawed studies that said it didn't work. the one thing we learned about covid is that the only entity that made it worse is the media and what trump is trying to do is speak directly to the american people. right now he's more important than the experts who been proven wrong on so many things from masks to a social distancing to the shutdown. remember, there are people saying do not change your life. as far back as february and march. do not change your life. live your life the same. and then all of a sudden trump listen to and absorb the information and then made the right decisions. americans fell in line. they made great sacrifices. now we are trying to get our economy back together and by the

way, it's bouncing back. but it's not going to be easy. we know that. we understand that. we are adults. we can balance risk with benefit and risk with progress. we don't need to be lectured every day about how many people are dying. when you aren't telling us the death rates, right? when you sit there and tell us how many more cases there are you don't talk about whether the death rates are declining. we know what they are up to. we know what the narrative is and it's all baloney. >> jesse: emily, do greg's point, i wonder if the way the media has leveled these expectations against the president, if he had been a democrat maybe this would have been perceived as a humongous success that he had prevented the spread of more virus coming in from china with the travel ban and then take an early action to shutdown the greatest economy in the world and then opened it back up based on the science and is now encouraging your sons and daughters to get

back safely into school. this could have been totally covered differently. if barack obama or joe biden had been commander in chief. i wonder if a lot of the perceptions had been so polluted by the 100% negative coverage of everything the administration did, that's got to have been infecting a lot of the people's minds about how safe or successful they feel. >> emily: undoubtedly, jesse. 100%. that's exactly what has happened and i have to say it's part of what's dangerous because given that this is a public health crisis, people don't believe what they don't want to believe. if they are inundated with preperception, carved into who they believe they should follow, nothing will change their mind, no amount of data or facts and that is the saddest part. with the president resuming these briefings and sticking to data and everything greg just outlined, if he says every day day after day, the narrative and

messaging is back in his court and it rebuts everything day after day. >> president trump: today i want to provide an update on our response to the china virus and what my administration is doing to get the outbreak in the sun belt under control. seems largely in sun belt it could be spreading. my team is also working night and day with capitol hill to advance the next economic relief package. we are working very hard on it. we are making a lot of progress. i also know that both sides want to get it done. we will call it phase four, i think we are going to get it done. we will protect our workers, our schools and our families and protect them very strongly. as one family, we mourn every precious life that's been lost. i pledge in their honor that we will develop a vaccine and we will defeat the virus. we are doing very well with

vaccine development and therapeutic development. but i want to thank our brave doctors and nurses and frontline responders. the job they do is incredible and they are truly brave. my administration will stop at nothing to save lives, shield the vulnerable, which is so important. we have learned so much about this disease, and we know who the vulnerable are, and we are going to indeed shield them. and again, the vaccines are coming and they are coming a lot sooner than anyone thought possible by years. you look at the old system and look at the new system. by years. the china virus is a vicious and dangerous illness but we've learned a great deal about it. and who it targets. we are in the process of developing a strategy that's going to be very, very powerful. we have developed it as we go along. some areas of our country are doing very well. others are doing less well.

it will probably unfortunately get worse before it gets better. something i don't like saying about things but that's the way it is. it's what we have. you look over the world. it's all over the world. and it tends to do that. the governors are working very, very hard and we are supporting them 100%. everything they need they get, and we are taking good care. we have tremendous supplies and a great supply chain, whether it's ventilators or grounds or just about anything they need. so that's a big difference from inheriting very, very empty cupboards. the median age of those who succumb to the china virus is 7. roughly half of all deaths have been individuals in nursing homes or long-term care. in one study, 90% of those hospitalized had underlying medical conditions, whether it's heart or diabetes. usually it's some kind of a

condition it seems that people have that and if they do, it's a problem, no question about it. young adults may often have mild or even no symptoms. they won't even know they're sick. they won't have any idea that they have a virus. they won't have any idea at all. america's youth will act responsibly and we are asking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask. get a mask. whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact. they will have an effect and we need everything we can get. data shows children have the lowest fatality risk. 99.96% of all virus fatalities are in adults. think of that. so that's much, much much less than 1% for children, young people. i understanding these risks, profiles and learning how to treat the disease, we've been able to greatly reduce mortality in the united states.

in fact, we will show you a chart and how well we do compared to the rest of the world. we have several treatments already available that significantly reduce the severity and duration of the disease, including rimmed is a beer, which has been very successful -- room to severe widely available steroid treatments. we've learned best practices for treatment of the virus at every stage and has share these findings with medical providers and we have shared them all over the world, the relationship with other countries has been very strong. we are all working together. this includes ensuring all hospitals are aware of the importance of different approaches to oxygen treatment, including high flow oxygen, the importance of steroid treatment for those on ventilators. when you're on a ventilator, we have learned a tremendous amount about the use of the ventilator

and at the beginning people never had an experience like this where we needed so many ventilators so fast. even the use of the ventilators. but the doctors have become incredibly -- and nurses and helpers have become incredibly good at the use of a ventilator which is actually a very complicated procedure. allocating remdesivir, it works best early in hospitalization. it's something they have started. they are using it much earlier. fatalities nationwide have fallen 75% since mid-april. it's a great number. as cases and fatalities rise in certain hard-hit states which are looking at right now. we are surging personnel, supplies and therapeutics. we have tremendous amounts of supplies. we are in very good shape and we can move them quickly. our case fatality rate has continued to decline and is lower than the european union and almost everywhere else in

the world. if you watch american television, you think that the united states was the only country involved with and suffering from the china virus. well, the world is suffering very badly. but the fact is that many countries are suffering very, very, very badly, and they've been suffering from this virus for a long time. we have done much better than most and with the fatality rate at a lower rate than most, it's something we can talk about but we are working again with them because we are helping a lot of countries that people don't even know about. i get calls all the time asking for help, especially as it pertains to the ventilators. they need help with ventilators. they have to get them. they are very get. we are making thousands now month, thousands of ventilators a month. it's been quite amazing. we keep doing the good job and things will get better and better. we will be putting up charts behind me showing different

statistics and different rates of success and i guess you could say also things that we can do better on, but you'll see them. they will be put up as we go. in april, the average age of individuals who tested positive for the virus was over 50 years old. today the average age is significantly younger. hospital lengths of stay are almost half of what they were in april. so the stays are about half. the rate of cases requiring hospitalization has been reduced and mortality among those admitted to the hospital is nearly one half of what it was in april. we have learned a lot. we have learned a lot about this disease, how to handle it. the doctors or learned a lot not only in the use of the ventilators but in many other things and things are happening too, like the remdesivir and also elements, steroids et cetera. these trends could change without our continued and relentless focus, that's what we

have. we have a relentless focus, and it's been that way from the beginning but we have learned so much. as you know in recent weeks we have seen a concerning rise in the cases in many parts of our south. you look at south, southwest and west, this growth in cases first began to appear in mid-june primarily among 18 to 35-year-old, many of whom were asymptomatic. we are also facing the challenge of a significant spike in virus cases across the rest of the western hemisphere including mexico. mexico has been hit very, very, very hard. as you know, the president, a great gentleman, was here two weeks ago. they've really been hit hard. because we've achieved a nearly fourfold increase in testing capacity in two months, we are successfully identifying more asymptomatic and mild cases. some cases so mild that you really don't even treat them.

some cases with children where they don't even know that they are ill. i guess there are not very ill because they recover almost immediately. per capita, the u.s. is conducting 50% more test than europe. we have conducted nearly three times as many tests as all of the other countries in the western hemisphere provide. over 50 million tests. this allows us to isolate those who are infected even those without symptoms so we know exactly where it's going and when it's going to be there. we are also working to reduce turn around time. my administration has been aggressively responding to case growth in the sun belt and we continue to do so, working very closely with all governors but right now in particular those governors. we are coordinating closely with hospitals and governors in the last three weeks. i have sent senior officials into nine states to meet with governors and provide

recommendations to the various leaders of the state, including hospital administrators, et cetera. my administration currently has zero unfilled requests for unfulfilled requests for equipment or anything else that they need from the governors. no governor needs anything right now, and we think we will have it that way until the end because frankly we are stocked up and ready to go wherever we have to go. nearly 7,000 national guard and military medical personnel in texas, florida, california, arizona helping us greatly. the military has been fantastic. we are closely monitoring hospital capacity in the states. hospitals are open for elective surgeries and other procedures. hospitals are open for elective surgeries. we want americans to get the medical treatments they need. all of the governors, we have spoken with say they have enough bed capacity.

that's a great thing. our initial shutdown was to prevent the overflow of our hospitals and to allow us to meet the demands caused by this global pandemic, including the ventilators. and a permanent shutdown was really never an option in terms of what we're doing right now. this would be completely unsustainable, produce debilitating economic fall back and lead to catastrophic public health consequences. there are consequences to shutdowns, and we have saved potentially millions of lives by doing the initial shutdown but now we are very aware of this disease. we understand the disease to a large extent. nobody is going to maybe ever really fully understand it but we will end up with a cure. we will end up with therapeutics and vaccines soon come all three. we are asking americans to use masks, socially distance, and employ vigorous hygiene. wash your hands every chance you get while sheltering high-risk

populations. we are employing young americans to avoid packed bars and other crowded indoor gatherings. be safe and be smart. we are surging testing capacity to identify and isolate cases. this includes a newly improved testing platform to nursing homes across the south. being very, very vigilant with respect to nursing homes because you know all of the problems that we had with so many people so sadly they were infected. so all of the staff and residents can be routinely tested and isolated to ensure our elderly are even more strongly protected than anybody else. that's really the high risk people, the high-risk wonderful people. once this current surging cases declines, the same testing platform will enable people to visit their loved ones after taking a test which is a big difference. ultimately our goal is not merely to manage the pandemic but to end it. we want to get rid of it as soon

as we can. that is why getting a vaccine will remain a top priority. two vaccine candidates are entering the final stage of clinical trials this month. this was achieved in record time. it used to be years before you were in a position like we are right now. four other vaccines will enter final trials and the following weeks and we are mass-producing all of the top candidates so that the first approved vaccine will be available immediately. logistically we have the military ready to go. we have great people, logistic military people, a wonderful general who is waiting for the vaccine so they can distribute it in record time. that's what's going to happen. so our military is all set to go. we will deliver a vaccine, therapeutics, whatever it is as necessary and defeat the virus once and for all, and i'll take a few questions if you'd like. i will say this. i want to thank all the staff,

the white house staff, all the doctors that we've been working with so closely. just a lot a very positive things are happening. it's a nasty, horrible disease that should've never been allowed to escape china but it did. and it infected the world, the world of suffering. but we are going to get it taken care of and we are helping lots of other countries. >> reporter: mr. president, first i wanted to get clarification. your press secretary said today that you sometimes take more than one test today. why is that? >> president trump: i didn't know about more than one. i do take probably on average a test every two days, three days. i don't know of any time i've taken to testing one day but i could see that happening. >> reporter: republicans and democrats on capitol hill and said they want to see more money for testing. they want to send billions of dollars to the states so they can do more testing and you probably saw mick mulvaney the other day said that his kid, took him a week to get test results back. he said it's simply inexcusable.

given where we are in the pandemic. do you think we have a problem with testing in this country right now? are you in favor of more money for testing? >> president trump: we've done more testing by far than anybody. some of the test commits a massive volume, it takes longer. others are very quick, 5 minutes, 15 minute tests. those are frankly the ones that i prefer. but we are doing massive numbers. the numbers are coming down. as we go as an example, there are thousands and thousands of kits being made right now which give you a 15 minute and a five-minute test. we will be able to get those numbers down. those numbers are similar in other places. they are also doing massive numbers, numbers like nobody thought possible. those numbers will be coming down. i agree, i think it's a good thing we can do it. >> reporter: are you in favor of more money for testing? >> president trump: they are going to make a presentation to me about that. i think we are the second country. we will be over 50 million tests.

the second country is india with 12 million and then you have 7 million, 6,000,004,000,000. i think we are doing tremendous amount of testing but if the doctors and the professionals feel that even though we are at a level that nobody ever dreamt possible that they would like to do more, i'm okay with it. >> reporter: why are your doctors not with you? >> president trump: dr. birx is right outside. >> reporter: thank you, mr. president. i wanted to know, in november, do you want to the american judge you on the ballot in november by how you handled this pandemic so far? >> president trump: this among other things. i think the american people will judge us on this but they'll judge us on the economy that i created and that already we are creating. setting record job numbers, as you know. i think we're going to have a very strong year next year. i think were going to have a very strong their corner, very good fourth quarter. i think next year's going to be

a record year, and i think they're going to judge me on that. i think they're going to judge me on the taxcutting and regulation cutting which nobody's ever done to the extent that we've been able to do it. on rebuilding the military, and how he handled the va. on the va, we got veterans choice. nobody thought that would be possible. it's been many decades they've been trying to get veterans choice. it's called choice. they can get a doctor. they have to wait online for two weeks or five weeks or two days. frankly that's been a great thing. veterans accountability. i think they'll judge me on that. they'll judge me and all the things we've done. i don't think -- and i think we can say this with shruti and it's never been challenged. three and a half years, the first three and a half years, the first years of a presidency i don't think any administration, any president has accomplished so much as we've accomplished from energy, health, so many other things. this came in and the plague -- i call it the plague. the plague came in. terrible thing, should've been

stopped, wasn't stopped. it came in and we had to shut things down with a potentially millions of lives. we did that now he started them up and i think we've really started it up very successfully. >> reporter: thank you, mr. president. you've been saying for months that the virus would disappear and now you're saying that it's likely to get worse before it gets better. if it does keep getting worse, if americans keep dying, are you responsible for that? >> president trump: the virus will disappear. it will disappear. i always like to say, either way when you look at it, the governors are working with me. i am working with the governors. we are working hand-in-hand. i think we are all responsible. i view it as a team. very good relationships with the governors. very, very good relationships. i could say them fully responsible but you know one day we had a virus come in and i cla lot of things were very good. dr. fauci said we save tens of thousands of lives when i close the border. nobody wanted to do it. i wanted to do it.

we close the border to china. we put on the ban. we didn't want people coming in from heavily infected china. fairly shortly thereafter i close the borders from europe, coming in from europe. those were tremendous moves. we would have, if it's one person it's too much but say 140,000. we could have double, triple, quadruple that number if we didn't. we did a lot of things right. we did a lot of things right, including with equipment. so it's a shame that it happened. it shouldn't have happened. china should have stopped it. >> reporter: if i could, two questions. my first question is we have quick testing platforms here at the white house. it's great. you get tested and you know quickly. do you think it would be easier to reopen and restart businesses if we could produce more of those? >> president trump: we are trying to do it, great question. rather than sending -- it goes through the mail one day and

comes back another day. no matter how they send them. it's a day and a days with two days already wasted and then if it spends, by the time you get it back it's three or four days if they do an efficient job. we are trying to get the testing on site. >> reporter: my second question, little bit different topic. it's one a lot of people are talking about. ghislaine maxwell is in prison and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn and powerful people. i know you talked in the past about prince andrew. you criticize bill clinton's behavior. i'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? >> president trump: i don't know. i haven't really been following it too much. i wish her well, frankly brett i met her numerous times over the years especially since i lived in palm beach and i guess they lived in palm beach. i wish her well, whatever it is. i don't know the situation with prince andrew. i just don't know. i'm not aware of it. >> reporter: unemployment insurance.

how much below $600 are you willing to go? you said -- so why do we need to cut it? >> president trump: the economy is getting stronger anything we have a chance to have a very strong economy especially if some of the things that i just spoke about, we want to have people go back and we want to go to back to work as opposed to being forced into a position where they are making more money than they expected to make and the employers are having hard time getting the back to work. that was a decision that was made. i was against the original decision but they did it. it still worked out well because it gave people a real lifeline and now we are doing it again. they are thinking about doing 70% of the amount. the amount would be the same but doing it in smaller initial amounts so that people are going to want to go back to work as opposed to making so much money that they really don't have to. we were very generous. i think it's been a tremendously successful program. the whole thing is been

successful if you look. we are in a pandemic and it we are producing tremendous numbers of jobs. that was something nobody thought possible. >> reporter: mr. president, thank you very much. yesterday you said wearing a mask was an act of patriotism. if that is the case, why don't you do it more frequently? >> president trump: i do it when i need. i carry the mass. i went into walter reed hospit hospital. i have the mask here and i carry it and i will use it gladly, no problem. i have said that and i say if you can use the mask when you can use the mask. if you're close to each other, if you're in a group, i would put it on when i'm in a group. if i am in an elevator and there are other people with me, including security people, it's not their fault they have to be in the elevator. i want to protect them also. i put on a mask. i have no problem with the masks. i view it this way. anything that potentially can help, and that certainly can potentially help, is a good thing. i have no problem.

i carry it. i wear it. he saw me wearing it a number of times and i'll continue. >> reporter: are you sending this message, yesterday you tweeted out an image wearing a mask and then last evening we saw you not wearing a mask at your hotel. >> president trump: i don't know, i was pretty far away from people. i would say, i explained i think very well. if you're close together, i would put on the mask and if you're not, i would say that for instance like here, you have been all tested. i've been tested. often times i've been with people fully tested. i've been tested. in theory, you don't need the mask. i'm getting used to the mask and the reason is, think about patriotism. maybe it helps, it helps. we have experts that have said in the recent past that masks aren't necessarily good to wear. you know that. but now they've changed their mind. if they change their mind, that's good enough for me so i wear it when appropriate. >> reporter: thank you, sir.

americans may be surprised at your change of tone over all of this, may be a more realistic tone. the sudden embrace of masks, social distancing. >> president trump: i've always agree with that. i've never fought either one but certainly social distancing. that's common sense. to me it's common sense. i would say maybe make it further. >> reporter: the idea that things will get worse perhaps before they get better here. perhaps the realization that this resurgence, if you will, is for real purity used to talk about it in terms of little fires being put out here and there. >> president trump: we have embers and fires and we have big fires and unfortunately now florida is a little tough or in a big tough position. you have a great governor there, great governor in texas. people that are very, very skilled people and i think they're going to handle it very

well. their hospital capacities are holding up. texas is a big state and it's very well-run and so is florida and i think they'll do a very good job. >> reporter: the change in your tone. >> reporter: the issue of vaccines would you already mentioned, yesterday a study by a chinese company showed promising results fo for a coronavirus vaccine candidate. if china were first in developing the vaccine or even if it weren't, with the administration be willing to work with china to bring a successful chinese vaccine to the u.s. >> president trump: we are willing to work with anybody that's going to get us a good result. we are very close to the vaccine. i think we're going to have some very good result. we are already in testing. nobody thought that would be possible. under the old system it would be a year to two years before you could think about using the word testing so i think without a lot -- the reason we are testing, they had good results so now we have to see and they are testing also for safety because they have to make sure it's safe. i think you're going to see something over the next fairly short. macro time, may be very short.

macro time having to do with therapeutics and vaccines that are very good. we will be doing these often. we will keep you abreast and talk about other topics like the economy which is doing well. the stock market had another good day. i think they have a good day because they see a lot of positive things happening on this front. thank you very much. thank you. >> jesse: that was the president briefing the american people from the white house podium on the coronavirus, saying things are going to get worse before they get better, striking a much more serious and measured tone about the virus, talking about some of the successes that the administration has had. 50 million tests done, the mortality rate and hospital stays being slashed in half since april. national guard medical personnel surging in the southwest because it does look like the sun belt

may be looking at becoming a hot spot. the president saying that we have learned a lot in the last few months about this virus and are much more and better prepared to take on, whether it's the second wave or an emergence in certain different areas of the country. the governors have everything they need, the president said, and warned people to avoid packed bars and said wear masks but said there will be no more shutdowns. we are in advanced stages of vaccine testing. let's take it around the table. greg gutfeld, what did you think about the president? spoke for 20 to 25 minutes. >> greg: he reigned in the impromptu improvisational elements of his delivery so what you got was straight summary and it becomes shorter because there's not a lot of the side

commentary. i don't know what cnn's excuses for not showing it. when you have someone go out there and delivering news to an american nation that needs it, it seems like, i mean, imagine if you are watching cnn right now. of course you can't, but imagine if you did, you wouldn't know this happened. >> jesse: it looks like they dialed it dialed it in when questions were asked but they didn't take the top where he delivered all the factual information to the american people. dagen, what did you think about the president's presentation on substance and style? >> dagen: he is owning it and leading. he was out there by himself with no one else speaking about what he, the white house, and the nation are doing to fight this virus, so he's taking ownership of the future and the road ahe ahead. he was asked about the economy. i will point out that because of the shutdowns, the country lost more than 22 million jobs in a

matter of months. it's regained 7.5 million of those. it's about 34% of the jobs have returned. what are they going to be doing in the months ahead? there is at least another trillion dollar aid package. that is $600 extra per week, extra per week that people have been getting in unemployment benefits that's been a lifeline for many individuals. he talked about extending that. it might be at a lower rate, a lower amount, may be sunset in the coming weeks but that's not something despite pushback from some conservatives, it's not something that's going away. it's going to give the economy a lift as we fight through the virus. ghislaine 11, the president clearly at the top framing it as a chinese virus and then multiple times during the presen talking about how this emerged from china, how china failed to stop it and lead people from wuhan fly all over e world.

definitely a different position than the president had taken earlier during the pandemic. >> juan: i think he's always been anxious to blame china. he didn't initially. partly because he was involved in trying to get the trade deal done. subsequent to that he's been quick to blame china, to blame fauci, to blame obama. i don't know who he hasn't blamed. what stands out to me is the change in tone that we have all discussed so far. what strikes me on that point is that this is the president was a very slow to come around on the seriousness of the pandemic and very slow to engage things like masks and still his administration is talking about cutting funding for testing, cutting funding for tracing. that's very concerning. also i would point out he said 99-point sent of these cases are in adults, as if just reopening

the schools when in fact if kids go home to mom, dad, grandparents, neighbors, they could spread the disease to people who are in fact quite vulnerable. what strikes me is the question of his credibility, speaking to the american people. before he went on, you, jesse, emily, everybody said we hope he's more substantive and direct in terms of delivering data. i think it's at least a mix, that he is defensive and he lowered the bar of kind of sprinkling magic dust, it's going to disappear magically and we are going to open everything by easter. clearly that's gone. he is still a very defensive man on this issue. >> jesse: i didn't see him as defensive. i thought he was pretty honest and forthright. emily, what was your interpretation? >> emily: i thought it was excellent. clear, competent, data-driven and juan pointed out it seemed to be a shift but i will note that one of the final reporters at the end, that was his question. he said mr. president, we seem

to have sort of a shift in your approach here. i thought it was excellent. to your question to me, your second one of the top of the hour, it doesn't matter that it's all about shaping. the first question from a reporter was mr. president, we hear you're getting multiple tests the day. there was no question on all the facts and figures the president resented in the beginning of the hour that was positive. the biggest debate of all, the biggest line of questioning was the mask debate why don't you wear one and whatever? no matter what you put in front of these people there's always going to be a different shiny object or following following and respectfully, juan, to your point, it's never going to be enough. if he ran out with his hair on fire, oh, my gosh, it's the worst most horrible thing, it still wouldn't be enough even if the economy collapsed. i thought right now it was excellent. >> jesse: good point. every single question was framed as the president and the election and how it plays politically, not on the

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>> juan: welcome back. joe biden on the campaign trail today outlining a $775 billion plan for universal preschool, expanded child care, in in-home eldercare. biden also taking shots of president trump leadership on rebuilding the economy. take a look. >> this man simply doesn't understand. he can't deal with our economic crisis without serving and saving and solving the public health crisis. for all his bluster about his expertise on the economy, he's unable to explain how he'll actually help working families hit the hardest. you know, he has quit on you and he has quit on this country. this election is not just about him. it's about us. it's about you. >> juan: president trump has said that the country will be

doomed if the former vp is elected. dagen, let me start with you and go over some of the basics. biden said today his build back better economic message includes caring for the elderly come as you heard. caring for children. he was in appeal to working parents. i think -- do you think it's good economic policy but politics, is it a good idea? >> dagen: what he proposed today was really smart and it will connect with people's hearts and their minds. what i'm talking about is an appeal to older voters and even younger ones who are now taking care of their aging parents. 15% of the population was 65 or older in 2015 and it's going to be double that by 2060. you've seen elderly people die in nursing homes and 6 out of 10 nursing home patients are on medicaid. he is proposing expanding the ability to take care of those

loved ones in their houses. this is something that he can talk about and what he could talk about again from his heart and again remember the democrats, you talk about this, they had their knickers in a twist about the ballooning budget deficit. not anymore because of pandemic spending. it's going to be $5 trillion. he can talk about spending as much as he wants. >> juan: emily, former vice president stressed a lot about empathy. is it a shot at trump and suggesting that the president is not caring, empathetic? >> emily: certainly it is, yes and i think that's no surprise and it's not out of left field. the vice president has certainly made that clear that -- how he feels about the president. i will say the good thing about him outlining these specific proposals is that it enables the president to get specific in his critique of that and we talked about yesterday the need for

both the president and biden to articulate what they would do in either the second term or the first term and now it's about each of them sort of being able to specifically critique and for the president's part not being able to just call him sleepy joe biden. i think the american people are a lot smarter than joe biden gives them credit for, as they will see through the fact that he claims he's pro union but it's not a pro job policy. >> juan: greg, also on the campaign trail but in congress today you have democrats asking the fbi for a briefing on interference in the 2020 race. is it possible to stop it? >> greg: i'm not interested in that. i am more interested in the plan. we haven't even discussed the name of the plan. here's the name of the plan. the biden plan for mobilizing american talent and heart to create a 21st century caregiving and education workforce. my question is, is his staff

intentionally creating title for things joe biden couldn't remember. if that title got any longer, would have to preempt "special report." who came up with that? what working group sat in an office and came up with that garbage? it shows you that 95% of the people that work in government could not get a real job because they are incompetent. it also shows you that even the sentences, even the sentences and government are bloated. it's embarrassing, and it's amazing how the media treats biden so lightly. they handle him like he's an ied inside a faberge egg. i would've been laughing my butt off. >> juan: last night biden said something about, there's four black women on his vp pick but he's not committed in the polls show that warren is doing best

among independent voters, swing state voters. what do you think? where is the vp chase going? >> jesse: i honestly don't care who he chooses for a vp, juan. i'm not interested in that. i don't think biden can remember who's on his list. he can't remember the name of his plan, as gutfeld said. i tried to read this thing. it was soul crushing, mind-numbing, and i threw it in a furnace when i was finished with it. he basically says he's going to send people to take care of your grandparents and then he's going to have people take care of your kids, but then he is going to shutdown the whole economy again. who's going to take care of you? i have no idea. >> juan: all right, stay with us. a lot more to come on "the five."

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>> jesse: time for "one more thing." some of you ever noticed that i have developed a new style here on the five. no tie. i got some pushback. what we are going to do is have the audience decide. leave the tie or put the tithe back on. go to instagram and vote. should jesse go back to wearing a tie? my mom says he has put some of you disagree. we will see and read the results next "one more thing." greg. >> greg: i would like to see you in a bolo tie. all right, let's do this. dogs on skateboard news. well done. your skateboarding and you're a dog, you need another dog to help you out. check out this pair. then it gets some help from his friend. sweet.

dogs on skateboard news. that's enough for me. >> jesse: juan, europe. >> juan: it's a small world as they say at disney's exhibit. third grader in california has raise money to bring more color into her small world. take a look at madison. the 7-year-old, 1 of 3 black children her school, raised $37,000 to buy crayons and the color of different skin tones. crayola has a new light of kranz perfect for her called colors of the world. 24 new colors representing 40 skin tones around the world. she's going to buy not only crayons but books, multicultural books for several schools. they should have a color called sparkling big star because that is madison. >> dagen: keep the tie or lose it but don't wear flip-flops.

men shouldn't wear flip-flops ever. a dog eating a burrito with his human. there you go. her dog eats with chopsticks, kat timpf. >> emily: oh, my god that is so cute. >> jesse: all right, everybody. see you. >> bret: thanks, jesse. welcome to washington. i am bret baier. it will likely get worse before it gets better, that from president trump a short time ago in a solo coronavirus press briefing. the president saying that wearing a mask is patriotic and he will push harder for people to wear them in close quarters. it's president trump's coronavirus briefing his first and 85 days, the presidents has a vaccine, and effective therapeutics will be coming sooner than anyone thought possible. meantime on the statistics, florida has overtaken texas an average daily deaths from the