well. now, "the five" is next. ♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone, i'm juan williams with the jesse watters, greg, it's 5:00 p.m. in new york city and this is "the five." fox news alert, president trump set to make a major announcement moments from now. the president expected to outline a set of national guidelines for schools to reop reopen. the president insisting for weeks that he believes students should be back in classrooms this fall. critics say it's on save as

coronavirus cases continue to rise across the united states. the president trying to reassure americans by saying he would be comfortable with his own son, baron, returning to school. >> i am comfortable with that and we have a national strategy but as you know ultimately it's up to the governors of the states. i'd like to see the schools opened, opened 100% and we will do it safely, carefully. >> juan: greg, i want you to take a look at the latest poll that we have that comes from ap norc and see if they can have it and put it up for us but there it is. when you see and they say that only 8% of americans say schools should reopen as normal for an in-person instruction. we had a fox poll last week and only slightly higher and 15%. given that strong opposition, do you think the president is right

to publish for schools to reopen in the fall? >> greg: can you put that thing up there again? i noticed something strange about how that was presented. that was 8% open as usual, right? look at the other ones below it, open with minor adjustments and that's 14%, open with major to adjustments and that's 15% and i think that 60%. 60% are actually -- plus 8%, 68%, overwhelming majority want to open up the schools with common sense and minor major adjustments. they play this game that everybody is again juan, "the five" is not like a old video game where if you log off the progress isn't saved and 6:00 p.m. we forget about what we talked about. we've talked about the adjustments and how -- keep it locked up or open up all the way. you go to school and see what

works and you distance. kids are low risk and the teachers if there is a high risk, they can social distance, they can wear the masks come up with the children on the lowest risks. out there certain types of adjustments you can make. also, this is a really positive time to examine how to change the curriculum and how to change the education system to benefit people to eliminate waste of time and you can expand the curriculum and you can improve learning skills. you could do so many new things because the pandemic is giving you the excuse to actually shake the box and get rid of the old ways and replace it with the new. this is a great opportunity for us to improve our education system. it's the worst problem in our country, it's the root of all of our problems and this is the opportunity to do something right so let's not screw it up. >> juan: all right, shannon, the president will come out in a few minutes to announce the white house guidelines for

school reopening. now, you recall last week, the cdc came out with their own set of guidelines, the white house, the trump white house, saying that they're too strict. will that cause confusion for the public? >> shannon: of the cdc director came out we don't want the guidelines were giving to viewed as the reason we're excuse to keep the schools closed on we think that there is a way to do this and were not changing them based on pressure from the white house but the cdc director said. we think there's ways to reopen schools and i can tell you a friend of mine the coworker in d.c.'s mom and anxious to get hurt conducting school and says the local system here in northern virginia reached out and surveyed students and parents and said how do you feel about coming back? results came in and 60 plus percent of them wanted schools to reopen and there's a way to do it in the school's came back and said we took the survey into a cow but were not going to reopen. parents are frustrated and they're getting mixed messages about what can work and can't work and also private schools

here in the area because northern virginia they're not really reopening schools this fall and maryland, d.c., private schools had to close the application process because so many of them found ways to keep things going even as the pandemic was setting in. so, greg said there is a ways to get creative about doing this but now there are state saying we want to block or close some of the private or religious schools that want to reopen. we want them to do the same exact things as the public schools which we want alums to open. this will bring up the issue of education and school choice going into an election year. >> juan: jesse, and when you take a look at the sound bite from the president on the politics. >> i believe the markets are doing this for a political reason and if you closed on california, it's a big state he closed on some of the places it's not going to show. a watch, november 4th, everything will open up.

>> juan: jesse, what do you think? again, just looking at what the polls say people are comfortable going back to restaurants, stadiums, even to church. do you think this is just politics? >> jesse: well, i'm in gavin newsom's head and is not a place i want to be, juan. it's hard to tell if people are honest about this and no way to find out by what i want to go back to what greg gutfeld just said at the top of the block. that's very important the way that he expose the fake poll right there, the poll is not fake but the way that it was framed and framed all day is totally misleading. you just saw it in real time a fact-check of fake news and i think everybody in the entire country needs to see that because it was actually the opposite of how it was presented the whole day. i wake up this morning, i tell you i go to twitter i find out the news and i see only 8% of the people think we should send

kids back to school. then you look at the poll and you read that and it's like somebody percent you want to send their kids back with safety measures. the way you frame it, juan, was incorrect, and i'm glad greg corrected you. if the thing about bearing going back to school -- >> juan: wait a second, wait a second, jesse, hold on, that's not right. when it is is that people are looking at things like you can have kids back in school one day or two days and then you have distance learning by computer. it's the same guidelines. hang on, hang on, hold on. but the fact remains is that poll it in fox poll when people are asked about return as normal, only eight or 15% said yes. >> jesse: i don't want to send my school back to school, nobody does. because bearing is going to get tested when he comes back and

that doesn't matter. baron is getting straight as whether he goes to school or not and if you want to be the teacher that gives a bear in less than an a, i don't think that's happening. i do understand, you don't want schools to become little petri dishes and then all the little urchins come back and infect their parents. there has to be a way to mitigate that. the lockdown with the state, were not having another lockdown. even if you have a lo another lockdown, it's knocking to be effective. we will have to wear masks and keep older people quarantined and be safe, wash their hands, social distance and that's it until we get a vaccine. >> juan: katie, the labor department came out and said 1.4 million new claims for unemployment filed last week apparently this is a sign that some businesses that were trying to reopen and decided to go backwards and close again, what

do you make of this and what you expect from the economy as we go toward the fall? >> katie: well, we expected a number of restaurants to close and i know that that was the issue in the beginning of the pandemic of saying you can close your doors and then hopefully you have enough unemployment that your employees can come back and that's not the case but you have to remember, juan, kids going back to school and employment are directly intertwined and related. if you work -- the only people who really are opposed vehemently against kids going back to school on the far left teachers union and the people who can afford not to have their kids in school. if you're a single mom working a hourly wage job you have to have your kid in school to feed her child and pay your rent when they come home. the idea now that people like the l.a. teachers union are holding state hostage and holding parents hostage by listing demands like defunding the police then putting more on charter schools, medicare for

all, state money for illegal immigrants enrolled in their schools, before they're willing to go back to school shows you exactly why, as shannon ventured to, school districts and school boards know that 60% of parents wants kids to go back to school. but because they're run by teachers unions, the rejection with the parents ask for and beholden to them. that's exactly who's running the show and thank god the teachers union wear is not in charge of the grocery stores and restaurants shutdown we would be starving to death because they are refusing to go back to work. >> juan: al all right, i'm next, a new look why americans are afraid to share their personal views. that is next for you on "the five." ♪ ta-da! did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need?

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♪ >> katie: americans say they are afraid to speak their minds. my new poll says 62% of poor people have political views they are afraid to share and these do cross party lines. the majority of democrats and republicans all agree, they don't feel safe to speak their mind on politics. katie, i wanted to start with you, i thought it was interesting digging into these numbers, there was one group that self identify that said they feel they have complete freedom to speak out and they describe themselves as a "strong liberal." 58% of them said they have no worries at all. >> katie: while i'm not shocked that they have no worries at all considering they are the ones that are usually engaging in these so-called cancel cultures. but there are bigger issues than people feeling like they can't

speak politically. we talk a lot about the 2016 election polling, whether there's a lot of questions this year, about whether speak your d e way that they feel. >> this leads me to another one of these numbers, 70% of sick conservatives say they don't feel safe sharing anything and that was the biggest group. there is a silent majority out there, not feeling safe to talk about it or talk to pollsters or talk on facebook they are going

to show up at the ballot box. as we want you would have to say that it's across a lot of polls, not just one pole taking by people on the left, it's fox poll's, it's every poll. that would be pretty extreme, and also the numbers and many of these polls, shannon, are double digits so again that margin of error is pretty strong. it's always possible. i have been the victim of the left-wing type of cancel culture, i was fired from a job at npr. but i do think that most americans agree that when it comes to slander, lies, racist appetites and the like, there should be consequences. the problem is with live in a very politically polarized era, the trump era. and i think lots of people use it as a political weapon to go after people they don't like or people they disagree with.

i also think they have a lot of voices and newsrooms on social media platforms and they are challenging a lot of the existing powers that be in media and sometimes the people in power don't like being challenged in terms of what they have to say. so to me, it ruins opportunities for real honest debate which is so necessary in a good democracy. we need to be able to speak to each other and i think that's why people are upset. >> shannon: we are graphed glad that you came over to the fox family. greg, i want to go over to you because as he pointed out there are upstart people, conversations with people who feel like twitter is controlling "the new york times" but the polls also show that generation z and millennials are more comfortable with cancel culture and think it shows more purpose than any other age group which is not surprising. >> greg: and i would dispute

juan calling this that era. this was politics i was begun in the 60s by the left. if you were for, say, the vietnam war, then he wanted to kill babies. so this whole personalization began with the left. it's not the trump or is are doxxing people, it's not the trumpeters that are setting fired two buildings, it is the left. it is the regressive left and the first amendment, it doesn't protect you with this stuff because it doesn't protect you from getting your career ruined or your family friend or your reputation. it's an amazing contrast to see how the loudest voices on the left claim their voices are being silenced. they go out and try to silence people through physical intimidation, through doxxing. i dare anyone to say "blue lives matter" and see what happens to them. if you can't wear a red hat in a

public place, even if it looks like a trump hat. and for operations and businesses are so scared of social media that they just quiver whenever there is a mob. they have to stop and they have to grow a pair and realize that what carters don't matter. if they didn't like yourself to begin with, but who claim they are boycotting her tv show weren't watching it, so you advertisers and companies, you have to stand up. you have to put that your employees. >> shannon: people are worried about their livelihoods and employees are worried because a third of the people in this survey said they actually think it could cost them, they found out it was a trump supporter and either i got demoted or didn't get the gate, but people worry that that is what behind these employment decisions. >> jesse: and i worry more

than anybody, shannon. especially more than you. [laughs] they might find out i'm a trump supporter and kicked me out. [laughs] juan, you got fired from npr for something ridiculous but that's how they all feel. we are all one william's in america. we are all basically walking around npr afraid to say what we really feel and what you said wasn't even that bad. the only place i say how i really feel is on their show and i'm still holding about 10-15% back. i don't say how i really feel around my parents. i mean i don't say how i really feel that our restaurants. i agree with your last point, juan, it's destroying honesty in america and holding this country back. if you ask people how they really felt about trade and illegal immigration, jobs and

black lives matter, i bet you would get up very different opinion if that was something they just told their friends. >> shannon: the mom text is coming, jessie says he's holding back ten or 15% -- all right, coming up, president trump challenging joe biden to prove that he has what it takes to be president. ♪

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that and we are doing very well all over the country. also, about contracting with pfizer, we made a big beautiful contract with pfizer and we think we are very close but we have a lot of companies that are very close to purchasing a vaccine and i wanted to come out again today to share some additional news with you. this afternoon my political team came to me and laid out our plans for the convention in jacksonville, florida. it's a place i love, i love that state. it looked absolutely beautiful, i never thought we had something that could look so good so fast with everything going on, and thousands of people wanting to be there, and from some places desperately be there.

they were traveling all over the country and wanted to be there. the pageantry, the signs and the excitement were really, really top-of-the-line. the timing for this is not right, just not right with what has happened recently with a flare up in florida. to have a big convention is not the right time. it's really something for me, i have to protect the american people and that's something i will always do and that's what i'm about. they said sir, we can make this work very easily, we have great enthusiasm, incredible enthusiasm. even the polls say they have the most enthusiasm they've seen. we can do this safely and we can do this responsibly, and i said there's nothing more important in our country think you been our people safe, whether that's from the china virus or the radical left mob that you see in portland. i want to thank homeland security and others in

law enforcement for doing a fantastic job over the last few days. they went in and people were out of control for 51 days, a long time. and homeland security and other law enforcement with us, they went in and got did a great job. and most importantly protecting our people. or the senseless violence that you see in chicago and new york and other cities and so many people are killed. people elected me to help them to protect. i told my team it's time to cancel the jacksonville, florida, component of the g.o.p. convention. we will be starting in north carolina for the monday as has always been planned, we were never taking that off.

that's where they do their nomination. so the delegates are going to north carolina and we will do other things with tele- rallies and online for the week that we are discussing, which will be really good. i think we will do it well and up we will still do a convention speech in a different form, but we want to do a big, crowded convention per se. it's not the right time for that. i care deeply about the people of florida and everywhere else frankly in this country and even in the world. who would be coming into the state, and i don't want to do anything to upset it. they will be doing very well, very shortly. we will put some maps on top of the country behind me and you will see that the area that we are talking about is a hot spot. he will also see a lot of the country has no problem whatsoever, most of the country

whaactually. i've spoken to governor desantis and informed other political leaders, i want to think the jacksonville community and its great mayor, he's a great guy, a really great guy. they wanted it so badly. and all of the other political representatives in jacksonville and in florida, and very special people, a very special group. they were more therefore us 100%. today i want to provide an update on the actions we have taken to support the safe reopening of america's schools. people we have had their children home for the last few months have a greater appreciation for the fact that teachers are essential workers, they are essential to our children's future. our goal is to protect our teachers and students from the china virus while ensuring that

families with high risk factors can continue to participate from home. the american academy of pediatrics has released a guidance recommending that schools reopen. it said it "lengthy time away from school and associated interruption of supported services often results in social isolation making it difficult for schools to identify and address important learning deficits as well as child and adolescent physical and physical abuse, substance abuse, depression and suicidal ideation. this in turn places children and adolescents at significant risk of morbidity, and in some cases, mortality. the educational and social impact of school closures, there's been a substantial impact on food security and physical activity for children

and families. there is a highway that goes both ways, and the educators during the pandemic, there's never been an effective replacement for in person learning and support. being at the school and being on the campus is very, very important. many estimates due to school closures last spring, the average a student will begin the school year are roughly 35% behind in reading compared to the typical year, and more than 50% behind in math, that's a big statement. according to mckinsey and company, learning loss will probably be greatest among low income black and hispanic students. they are the ones that are the hardest. 31 million americans rely on

schools for free and reduced mealmeals. according to hhs, one in five reports allegedly having to do with child abuse, those neglect cases are submitted by education personnel. people in the education world on the premises will be the ones that report neglect and other problems when they see the children. they know when they've been neglected or if they've been hurt or harmed in any way. you don't get to see that if you are not going to school. or a lower risk from the china virus, very substantially. they have only very mild symptoms or none at all.

and medical complications are exceedingly rare. those that do face complications often have underlying medical conditions. hospitalizations are adults and 99.6% of all fatalities are adults. that means that children are a tiny percentage, less than 1% and even a smaller percentage of 1%. in a typical year they flew results in more deaths of those under 18 in the united states and have been lost thus far to the coronavirus. they are protected in our sole focus is the health and well-being one of the greatest

athletes of all time, a lot of people say the greatest picture of all time known as a relief pitcher who could have been whatever he wanted. he's the greatest reliever of all time by far, substantially more than anybody else. and i'm reading off the stats, i knew he was the best, but he's a man who loves children. he works hard with children, and why do they call the man? you know, they played the song and he just puts the batterers to sleep and that's exactly what happened. having mariano here is a great honor, thank you very much. he's talking about children in schools and there is nobody that has done more than you have.

thank you very much, fantastic man. given those considerations, we believe many school districts cannot reopen safely provided they implement mitigation measures and health. we protected teachers of the families also. we make the decision that is right for their own circumstan circumstance. this is especially if a child has underlying health conditions or lives with the parent or grandparent who is at higher risk. those are the current hot spots. they will delay the reopening for a few weeks and that's possible, that will be up to governors. the decision should be based on the data and the fact on the grounds in each community but every district should be

actively making preparations to open. the children obviously have a very strong immune system. they seem to be able to fight it off and not have a problem, so that's pretty amazing. our strategy to safely reopen schools mirrors our approach nation wise. the completion with vaccine therapeutics, and the reality is it's a much lower risk, to resume work and school and as long as everyone practices vigilant hygiene and social distancing, we want that. that will ultimately lead to greater mortality and irreversible harm. but at the same time we have to get our economy going, we had

tremendous numbers issued yesterday, the highest number in history real estate housing went up 21%. today the cdc will provide additional guidance to reopen safely. i hope that local leaders but the full health and well-being of their students first and make the right decision for parents, teachers and not make political decisions, this is about something very, very important, this is not about politics. we are asking congress to provide $105 billion to part of the schools coronavirus relief bill. this supports mitigation measures such as smaller class

sizes, more teachers and teachers aides and repurchasing spaces to practice social distancing and crucially mask wearing. this money is in addition to the the $30 billion weakest occurred for schools and universities earlier this year and that money we have is distributed. the funding should go to parents, and that's religious and homes school school all their choice. and we would like the money to go to the parents of the student. this way they can make the decision that is best for them. we cannot indefinitely stop 50 million american children from going to school and harming their mental, physical and emotional development. reopening our schools is also critical to ensuring that parents can go to work and

provide for their families. the council of economic advisors estimate that 5.6 million parents will not be able to return to work if schools do not reopen this year and that's a tremendous problem. it's a tremendous problem and schools have to open safely if they have to open. we can achieve the same goal if we reunite together and follow the best medical practices and apply common sense. we will continue to support states and cities in the current hot spots in the south, southwest and they are doing a very good job, working so hard.

there are 30,000 personnel in the states that need assistance or helping doctors and nurses, and we are in close communications with governors of states. we have supplies, everything they could possibly need it. remember i used to say the cupboards were bare? well now the cupboards are the opposite due to our historic efforts to create the national stockpile and state stockpile. and more importantly they need ventilators. those are very, very hard to come by and now we are making thousands of ventilators a month and supplying them in many cases to other countries. states are making requests are rapidly delivering in the last 24 hours and fema has deployed more than 1.5 million masts upon requests.

1.7 million gallons and 600,000 -- let me change that. we've created about 600,000 different supplies, we have 600 ventilators to north carolina, arizona, pennsylvania, colorado, idaho and washington. the number is 600, we will check that and give it to you in a little while. we got a stockpile of thousands of ventilators. i think we sent out about 600 just recently. i think the united states has now conducted 51 million tests which is more than any other country in the world by far. it's either the rapid the rapid point-of-care test which frankly solves a lot of problem in delay, 5-15 minutes instead of waiting for service both ways in both directions and then at the lab. but roughly half of them now is

a tremendous increase, the 5-15 minute test, or the results are back in less than a day. we are continuing to search testing and we detect those with the virus, and and here's a copy of the map i have it right behind me, which is very much indicating where the problems are. the northeast has become very clean. the country is in very good shape other than if you look south and west, there are some problems that will all work out. we worked with florida to ensure that over 40,000 vials of remdesivir are arriving this week, that's a lot.

they are working around the clock to make a tremendous impact. we've also shipped thousands of miles to arizona, california and texas in the past two weeks. arizona is doing very well, the numbers are heading down i think very quickly, the governor has done a great job. they've all done a great job, working hard. we will continue to monitor the areas rising, with respect to cases and we ask all americans to exercise vigilance, practice social distancing, and wear a mask. do whatever is necessary to get rid of this horrible situation, this horrible disease that was sent to us by china. they could have stopped it and they didn't. the entire world has gotten infected and this morning i spoke with president putin of russia and they are going through a very hard time with

this in moscow, in particular. i spoke to the crown prince of saudi arabia and that they are doing well but they are doing gg through a lot. this could have been stopped, and quickly but for some reason it wasn't. so with that, if you have any questions please? >> i just felt it was wrong, steve, for going to what turned out to be a hot spot. when we chose eight, was not at all hot, it was free. it happens quickly, it goes away and it goes away quickly. the key is we wanted it to go away without a lot of death and without a lot of problems and we're learning so much about the

disease, that's why we are very cognizant of nursing homes and watching them carefully and especially people over a certain age with diabetes or heart disease in particular, but with a problem. so we didn't want to take any chances. we are going to do a fairly reasonably quick meeting in north carolina and the nomination will be produced. then, we will announce what we are doing and how we are doing it, whether it's something that's done online i guess you could call it, online. it would be nothing like our last convention unfortunately, that was a great convention. it's a different world and it will be for a little while. we will get back to what it was, including great job numbers and so many things that are

happening, that are so positive. the stock market is close to records and the nasdaq is a record, it's already exceeded its highest numbers but we want to get our country back to what it was. >> what your acceptance speech to be from the white house? >> president trump: we will announce that over the next few days. >> are you worried it might dampen the enthusiasm for you? >> president trump: we've done a great job, but the greatest economy in the world. nobody is close, not anybody. we had to close it and saved millions of lives and then we opened it. we have had black americans, young people with a diploma and without a diploma, with a college diploma, anything you want to name, we have the best numbers. women were doing incredibly, there's never been a time like that. and we had to turn it off

because of what china did. we had to turn it off, and all of a sudden now we turn it back on and we are doing very well but it was very bad. speaking about china, the trade deal, it means less then them, but they are setting records. yesterday was a record corn day, they purchased more corn than any other day ever and that went on for two or three days. it just means much less to me, can you understand that? >> what was one thing, if there was one thing that changed her mind about the convention, did florida officials ask you to cancel it? >> president trump: no. i would just say safety. i can see the media saying, this is very unsafe. safety not just because of the

media but that's what they would say. we will have a nice something, we will figure it out. it will be online, and we are talking about the end of august. i think it will be something that will be exciting but they can be nothing like having 25,000 people. we had a tremendous convention planned in north carolina and it would have been very good but much smaller version in florida. but then we saw what was happening pretty quickly. we saw the virus was coming up that coast. >> -- the severity of the situation in florida? >> president trump: i think it will come and go. if you look at some of these locations we are heavily infected. to the point where deborah and i were talking, new look it up what have been in new york and new jersey and other places, you

are looking now and it's gone, i hope it stays gone. we have to be vigilant and we have to be careful and we also have to set an example. i think setting the example is very important. it's hard for us to say we are going to have a lot of people packed in a room and then other people shouldn't have to do it. don't forget, we are talking about schools and we want them to be vigilant. but also if you noticed i said where bars are crowded and other things are crowded, nothing is more crowded than a convention, you've seen them. and even though you try to keep people away from each other, it's very hard. so we are setting that as an example. at >> we talked about money that congress is looking at to help schools that want to reopen. if the school wants to reopen but is concerned about testing,

if that is what it took to open the schools. >> president trump: i think so, a lot of people feel differently about testing and when you have 50 million tests plus, and we broke the 50 million test mark, second in the world as india and they had 12 million tests and other countries that are very big had 2 million tests in some countries, essentially only test if you're sick and walk into a hospital or doctor's office or you are literally really sick. they essentially don't do tests unless you are sick. and i understand that, too. so if they feel that that is what they want, that would be fine. >> you tell congress that you would encourage congress to pay for testing? >> president trump: i would if they want. you look at our mortality rate

and our death rate and that you look at different statistics, we are doing very well. but one death is too many, this should never have happened, this should have never been allowed to happen. >> mitch mcconnell's office put out a statement a month ago about the relief package, saying "it's tailored precisely for this phase of the crisis. so do you believe -- >> president trump: i'd like to see a payroll tax cut, i think it's great for the workers. and based on that told them, i told the republicans who have been working pretty hard on this, and hopefully the democrats ultimately well. i said, i think a payroll tax would have been good but you aren't going to get it from the democrats. we have a majority but it's not enough -- i guess that's why we have an election coming up so you still need democrat votes and you would like to see that

but it would be very good for the workers. if we aren't going to get their votes then we have to go onto the next thing. and may be something happens. yes please? >> you talked about setting an example in jacksonville but some people will take away the lesson that you are pushing too far too fast. it seems for a while the numbers were going up in jacksonville and he would have no problem with that but this comes up at a time the schools, italy made the example of jacksonville is pushing too far. >> president trump: baseball is a challenge, we talked about it a little while ago. randy levine is a great friend of mine from the yankees and he asked me to throw out the first pitch. i said how's the crowd going to be? and you know, it's like, you don't have a crowded, there is

no such thing. it will be interesting. i've been in many games and he walks in the place goes crazy. i think it will be just as good without the crowd. i've never seen a picture throw a ball were so many bats were broken. and how do you do that? i think that we all have to set examples, and i think baseball is setting an example by playing to empty stadiums and so are other sports. i see golf is now soon, we will be allowing people to come in and percentages and all of a sudden we want to get back to normal. the key is to get back to normal because nobody wants to see this. but i think it's really good that baseball is opening, it looks like football's opening.

it looks like sports are opening. it's a tremendous thing psychologically for our country and we are all -- we are going to see right now some beautiful young little leaguers outside with a great future ahead of them who are already practicing on the front lawn of the white house and we will go out and say hello to them. and it will be great. how about one more? >> president trump, "the washington post" earlier today reported that one thing is about including the language of the dash is that true? >> president trump: i know they want to put it in an fbi bill, and it's got a lot of danger involved in panels falling off the outside and piece of concrete falling off the building. they want to build it at the

site that they have. they have options very far away from washington and i said frankly you have to be near the justice department. and they would have been too far away. i've been encouraging them to build it, and you can renovate the existing building, and they have the fbi for 100 years and have been credible even with tracks on top that they are talking about because fbi people like to work out a lot and you could have literally a quarter-mile track on top, it's a very big site, a very wide site. my idea is to build a new building. the fbi needs a new building and we will get it done.

thank you all very much. >> shannon: a president trump at the white house making a huge announcement that the rnc convention in jacksonville, that component, the in-person component has been canceled. jesse, your thoughts? >> jesse: well, that was big news but also the president will be throwing out the first pitch on august 15 at yankee stadium. no pressure, mr. president. the last president to his or her auto pitch there bush after 9/ 9/11. so i think everyone will be to turning into that. good news, the american academy of pediatrics endorses sending children back to school. some of the things they've mentioned in terms of degradation and diet and mental and physical health, 30% reading scores are down, 50% of math scores are down. when you hold them out of school like this. it's important to get them back

and get them back safely on the parents he said will be ultimately the ones making the decision as well as the local school district, which i think was important. and then come at hundre $105 bin additional. hopefully the parents if you shut down your child's school some of that money will be accessible so you can send your kid to a public school or private school. and you said katie, 5.6 million parents will not be able to go back to work if their schools are not open and we cannot afford that. >> katie: shannon, do you want to pick out on that really quickly? he did link the two, the economy and parents needing to send their school back to school. they are quoting a member of the u.k. government task force on this, he's an epidemiologist. he said so far in tracking this

around the entire globe they have yet to find a single case in which a child, a student transmitted covid to a teacher, so that's something to watch as the president pushes for progress here in the u.s. greg, the president said that a permanent shutdown was never in the plan. >> greg: yeah, life is, come in a pandemic like we've seen is about adjustments. you always have a choice to switch gears or dial back or even retreat and we've been saying that since day one. we will open that up in a way that's careful that allows for adjustments, and nothing surprises me. >> shannon: i don't think anything's presence many of us for sure, that's for sure. the president canceled the convention, juan, do you think it was a good idea? >> juan: i think it's the right thing to do and i just want to be clear again, the president is talking about reopening schools as normal even

with withholding funds and shift them into parochial and private schools, again, that's just what these posts then. we have to go, >> bret: breaking tonight, president trump says he is canceling the jacksonville, florida, component of the republican national convention, the president saying a short time ago the business of the convention will take place in charlotte, north carolina, as was originally planned, we expect to get more details about how all of that will play out in coming days. he notes the jacksonville, florida, area is a coronavirus hot spot. the president once again defending his call for all students to return to classroo classrooms. senate republicans and administration officials have dropped the idea of