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>> i don't like to tell you what to do but on behalf of on behalf of stephen ainslie, set your dvr for 6:00 a.m. every afternoon. >> a couple of times. run to the radio, it starts at nine. [singing] >> protesters cheering as city workers remove a christopher columbus statue from grant park overnight. the monument loaded onto a truck and hauled away following pressure from demonstrators as protests gripped the city. good morning and happy friday every morning, i am melissa francis. >> will is that, it's great to be with you as we get to set to pull the rep accord on another
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week. the statue was a site of an ambush where protesters pelted police with water bottles. they were demanding the city's police department be defended. >> melissa: th the mary is speaking with president trump about his plans to send federal agents into the city. she warns that any abuse of authority by agents will be met with legal consequences. >> if you see something that doesn't look right, please don't hesitate to report it. we are going to remain diligent and if we see any steps out of line we are not going to hesitate to take the president to court. >> melissa: mike tobin's live in chicago with more. >> the base is now covered in plastic, and that plan had to
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move under cover of the night, bring in the cranes and remove the columbus statue. the big statue was removed. the mayor's office is issuing a statement today saying the statue was removed because it had become such a flash point, it was removed for safety reasons. the catch is, she did not talk about it with the chicago alderman. many of them are pretty angry, they are saying she rewarded the rioters. now there was a back the blue rally that was planned here for tomorrow and there was some concern that that in itself could become a flash point. the word from organizers is that the back of the blue rally is still on. >> melissa: didn't protesters march to the protester mayor's s well? >> that was going on as well. an announcement was made to those marchers that indeed the statue was going to be removed.
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there was a big cheer that went out and they turned of the whole thing in logan square into a big street party. however, very quickly the chanting and not crowded turned to defund the police. it didn't satisfy all of them. >> melissa: mike tobin, thank you for that. another alert as chaos continues to grip portland. the city is seeing its 57th night of unrest. [gunshots close brackets >> melissa: president trump now doubling down on his promise to intervene. kevin corke is live at the white house with more on this. >> stunning pictures indeed. good morning to you, and aggressive sweep by federal
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agents overnight in portland, one that actually pushed at least two blocks past. that was local law enforcement coming with the full support of president trump who noted in the interview last night. >> president trump: people were out of control for 51 days, a long time, and homeland security and other law enforcement with us went in and they've done a great job protecting our property. a lot of other cities where so many other people are shot and so many people are killed. we will go into all of the cities, any of the cities who are ready and we will put in the 50,000 or 60,000 people who really know what they are doing. we have to be invited in. >> more on capitol hill, they
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are using so-called secret police. meanwhile the doj inspector general has been conducting a review of the federal law enforcement response to the violence, and that is the use of chemical agents. an important event happening later today, the presidential medal of freedom for jim ryan, plus they expect the president with a few more news nuggets. i'll share as i learn more but now, back to you. >> melissa: sounds like another exciting day at the white house. >> never a shortage of news nuggets at the white house. for no more on this let's bringn chad wolf. the president has put federal tactical teams on standby over the weekend and several city this just in case there are riots because there are rumors that something might break out. that does not sit well with
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house speaker nancy pelosi, this is what she said about the deployment of federal forces. >> the use of stormtroopers under the guise of "law & order" is a tactic that is not appropriate to our country in any way. >> john: mr. secretary, the house speaker referring to your workers as stormtroopers. >> number one, it's disgusting, number two it's an assault on every federal, civilian or state and local law enforcement officer who has taken an oath to protect federal facilities and to do their job. and i think it's very dangerous, the fact that you are going to call any law enforcement whether it's stormtroopers or we've heard them referred to as thugs or gestapo, that's absently absurd. they are enforcing law, and statute passed by individuals like speaker pelosi and others who have voted on legislation
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that gives the department of homeland security the authority to protect federal facilities and make arrests on individuals that are targeting criminal acts, targeting federal facilities and federal law enforcement officers. perhaps it is a talking point, and perhaps the reasons for her doing that are unknown to me but it's very, very dangerous. >> mr. secretary, what's the goal in portland? it seems like every night it's the same thing. the protesters move in and your officers are in the federal courthouse. your federal officers respond by coming out this typically happens very late at night. we seek teargas, flash bang grenades, we sometimes see tear gas or pepper bullets. they disperse, your offices go back to the courthouse and the next night it's the same thing all over again. 56 nights of protest in portland and it's like groundhog day. >> you are exactly right.
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what we are doing in portland is a specific mission. what we know is that the violent criminals as you indicated, they operate somewhere between midnight and 5:00 a.m. every morning. there are number one goal is to destroy that building and set it on fire. that is their goal. >> john: right, but what is the goal here? will this keep repeating night after night or is there some sort of end game? >> we are making arrests, we are targeting individuals aunt that are doing these criminal acts and trying to hold them accountable. what we need is state and local police to do their job as well. the local leaders, state leaders to allow police to do their job and partnership. we see that in any other city around the country, having that partnership and holding those individuals accountable. right now is solely the federal government that is protecting
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the building and going out and making specific arrests targeted at federal facilities. we should have a closer partnership, but the violence needs to end. >> john: th the journalists i understand are still being targeted, a reporter from "the new york times" even after showing her credential was had by a rubber bullet. are there mistakes, or would you acknowledge there are mistakes that are being made to? as a journalist at been in those situations many times before. i've gone to war many times and sometimes you put yourself in harm's way and get hit. but are there mistakes being made? >> what i would say is you are certainly abiding by the court decision that was handed down yesterday but i would also say this is a very violent situation. again, every night anywhere from a thousand-2000 individuals and i would say if you have
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journalists or illegal observers inside that crowd and you are standing by to violent criminals, that will be a very difficult situation for law enforcement. we have individuals that are targeting the perimeter and the fence that we have put up with hand tools and power tools. they pulled up a car with a rope last night trying to pull it down. these are violent acts that we have to work against. i would encourage those who want to cover it and they do that safely, again, we are going to have to take defensive measures. we try to stay on federal property as much as possible but we are not going to exclusively do that. >> john: if i could talk to you about the ban on new york state, i know that the
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u.s. attorney in a court filing in response to a lawsuit that letitia james filed said the dhs made all statements in response to the lawsuit and several other states, washington, d.c., and several territories were doing the same thing as new york was in terms of not allowing you access to the dmv records. >> absolutely not. new york is the only state that is taking proactive measures, pass legislation that specifically cut off and preempted that information sharing. but we have subsequently found from a couple of territories as they simply don't have the capacity and the capability to participate in some of these databases that share that information. what we have done again is talking to new york and may -- april or may, and as a result of that we will turn that back on. there are still parts of that
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law that prohibit that information with dhs for national security purposes. in this post 9/11 environment the department in part was created to tear down that information sharing silo. what we see as new york but in those back up again so it's very, very dangerous in our book and we will continue to work with our department of justice colleagues to see what we can do perhaps through the legal system to address those concerns. >> john: acting secretary from dhs, chad wolf, thank you so much. fingers crossed that the violence doesn't spread. we appreciate you coming in. >> melissa: u.s. coronavirus case is now surpassing 4 million. just 15 days after hitting 3 million. that's news coming as the cdc issues new guidelines for schools planning to reopen. the agency recommends repurchasing underused buildings or moving classes outside when possible. it's also suggested keeping kids
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in pod so that the same smaller groups of classmates stay together throughout the entire day. the president says getting kids back to in person learning safely is vital. speak to our sole focus is the health and well-being of america's children. districts may need to delay reopening for a few weeks and that's possible, it will be up to governors but every district should be actively making preparations to open. >> melissa: in about 30 minutes, former secretary of education margaret spelling joins us to talk about new guidelines. later on, dr. anthony fauci will join us live with his take on the debate over how to safely reopen schools. >> john: fox news alert, days after the u.s. state department ordered china to close its consulate in houston, beijing responding in kind. plus, outrage over a newly
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>> john: china has ordered the closure of the u.s. consulate after the u.s. decision to close a chinese consulate in houston. the trump administration says agents inside the houston consulate have been trying to steal american scientific data and intellectual. >> melissa: fox news alert on the newly declassified fbi document about the russia investigation, and it shows that president trump's first intelligence briefing as a candidate in august of 2016 was led by agents who had just opened an investigation into his team's ties to russia. it was filed as part of the
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so-called crossfire hurricane investigation. katie pavlich is an editor for townhall.com and fox news contributor. katie, until our audience why it's significant that agents that were investigating the trump campaign were the ones that did the defensive briefing, who should have done the defensive briefing? >> melissa, the timing of when this briefing happened is absolute crucial. so on august 152016, fbi agent peter strzok sent a text message to lisa page who was in the fbi. they were having an affair and they often text personal information on government cell phones and he said i want to believe the path you throughout for consideration and andy mccabe's office, that there's no way that he, meaning trump, gets elected, and that opens up an investigation into so-called alleged ties into the russian government and trying to collude to win the election. then on august 17 peter strzok
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orders the so-called defensive briefing with president trump, michael flynn and former new jersey governor chris christie, and the other context here that is really important is, the agent who did this, his name is joe p uncut, he admitted to the office of the inspector general that this meeting was not a defensivt was in order for him to gain information about michael flynn and listen closely to the answers are questions that they asked about the russian federation. that was given due to time constraints, but that's here is that the agent who carried out the briefing did not name names. he didn't explain to the campaign which could be vulnerable, just opened up investigation a couple of days earlier. and he didn't say michael flynn
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is a problem. if he didn't warn michael flynn and say, there's all these russian operatives that you may be looking at, that was never given. >> melissa: so this is what congressman jim jordan had to say about this very issue last night. >> the fbi went to then candidate trump and said russia might try to target you and your campaign. they told them russia might try to spy on you, and that was 17 days and to the, investigating the president for no reason. >> melissa: katie, if you look at the evidence maybe they truly believe that trump was a russian agent and the reason they didn't tell him wise because they didn't want to let him know that they were on to him. how do you counter that argument? that certainly the argument that we've heard from the other side. >> sure. but this continued.
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if you move forward to december 2016 fbi agent fbi aged we have no information about him doing anything wrong and we need to close the case. then peter strzok comes back and says people at the higher level of the department of the bureau are saying keep the investigation open on michael flynn. fast-forward to january after president trump was inaugurated, the president of united states after the transition. and you have these fbi agents, the same ones who conducted the so-called defensive briefing going into the white house and not telling michael flynn that he needed a lawyer, and have written notes that they were trying to get him to lie or they were trying to get him fired. this is not just something that happened in august of 2016, this expenditure january 2017 after president trump took office after the fbi agents urged that the situation be closed which is why the justice department has urged for the charges against michael flynn be dropped which
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is why obama and biden at the time had that meeting in january where they said maybe michael flynn should be treated a little bit differently. so this continued on and of course goes into the special counsel investigation that we had for years on end which found what we already knew, and december of 2016, that there was no collusion between the trump campaign and any kind of russian government agent. >> melissa: katie pavlich, thanks for breaking that down. >> john: president trump announcing some major changes to the republican national convention. how could that shape the race as new polls show one candidate getting stronger in key battleground states? former governor mike huckabee joins us next. and he may be the most famous of dr. in america right now but everyone is talking about dr. fauci's throwing arm this morning. can he challenge mariano rivera? that's coming up next.
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than the votes clinton wound up with in 2016, as president trump is not doing quite as well as he did in a trio of key battleground states. first pennsylvania's estate that trump won at last time and this time is the only place other than delaware that joe biden ever goes to campaign in. he's now beating trump by 11 points, extending his lead there by three points since april. another state he won michigan come biden is beating him by nine points extending his lead thereby at one point since april. yet in minnesota, which clinton won by a hair in 2016 and the trump campaign have been hoping to make a lot more competitive this time, it's not competitive today. biden is leading there by 13 points. president trump is dismissing latest numbers that show him trailing since he trailed in most polls last cycle and did okay. speak to you see what's going on with the polls.
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it's funny. i made a speech at mount rushmore and since that time it's been really something. before that really, you have all of the is fake, the suppression polls and it just like in 2016 when he put out these phony polls. >> trump is confident but biden is really confident as well. so much so that he told donors out at a zoom fund-raiser that he thinks democrats have a chance to win the senate as well and he's basing that on the strength of some of the democratic candidates right now and states that trump one in 2016. melissa? >> melissa: time will tell. peter doocy, thanks for that. speak to the timing for this event is not right, it's just not right with what's happened recently. the flareup in florida, to have a big convention is not the right time, there is nothing more important in our country than keeping our people safe. >> john: president trump
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announcing he's canceling that republican national convention events are receptive to place next month in jacksonville, florida, citing the spike in coronavirus cases. but he same delegates will still meet in north carolina and he still plans on giving the speech when he accepts the nomination. let's bring in mike huckabee. great to see you this morning. as you know, and one of those moments is a convention. donald trump is really missing an important opportunity here ty being forced to cancel jacksonville. >> most people not seeing candidates in their element. the president is of course relegated to having to speak in certain venues without the kind of crowds normally do create an energy that he feeds upon.
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but it doesn't mean that this campaign is somehow going south from the president. i still think the key turning point is not going to be the convention, it will be the debate. when those two guys are on stage together, i've been on stage with donald trump presidential debates and i don't know if joe biden has any idea what he's getting into when that happens. it will be pay-per-view if it ever has been. >> john: it's been a long time since the debate has moved the needle. 1960 comes to mind but i don't really recall many moments since. when if you are a candidate at a deficit you have a knockout debate performance and you turn things around. will the debates really be that big of a moment? >> i go back to the mondale reagan moment, where kind of went went after him about his age and he slapped it back into the park. he forgot that his wife should have really been more of an object of passion then when he rather nonchalantly discussed
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what would happen if she were. i mean, those were his seminal moments and campaigns that happened. so it can happen. >> right, but did the reagan mondale debate really change things? i mean, reagan 149 states. >> good point. he would have really only gotten 46 states. it was a turning point because really up until that point people were wondering, does reagan still have it? well he proved yes he did. i think the president has proved he still has it, too. if you are a guitar player, is what i think they ought to do. go ahead and keep the dates. jacksonville is the home of leonard skynyrd, doyle and some of the greatest guitar players ever. have a big music festival, let the president go wave at everybody and it will be far more entertaining and i believe
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it could swing the election toward the president. >> john: from the very beginning of this pandemic, democrats have put the health and safety of the american people first. unlike trump we follow the science and work through plans to protect lives. is that a fair statement? the president wanted to hold it in jacksonville and what he was proceeding with plans and then said, you know what? we can't do this. the president canceled it because of concerns and if he had held that it would have been reckless. if he doesn't hold that somehow he doesn't care about health and safety. he may want to mention to some of his democrat mayors and governors that there is no safety going on in the riots. in the absolute chaos and anarchy taking place across america are run by democrats who just look the other way. and along allowing law enforcement to get trampled, that's health and safety if i've
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ever seen it being ignored. >> john: we've seen these battleground states, there were some in 2016 but when you look at the battleground state numbers in the latest fox news poll, are there enough secret trump voters out there to get them past this deficit? >> i think there will be. they don't even want to tell their own family that they voted for trump because they don't want to be ostracized. and the leftists have this attitude now that if you don't agree with us, we cancel you. we don't even want you in our home so there are a lot of people who aren't going to tell you, they aren't going to put up a yard sign, they won't put up a bumper strip because they don't want their car rocked with the windshield broken. they want their city to look like portland, seattle, or do
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they want a neighborhood where their kids can go out in the neighborhood and play and ride their bikes? i think it will come down to something as simple as that for a whole lot of people. this nonsense about the moms in portland putting on yellow shirts at three in the morning, what kind of mom goes out at three in the morning and throws rocks and yells and screams? i don't know many. >> john: great to see you, still looking forward to getting together and jamming with you. i will bring my buddy who used to be the guitar player and 38 special. >> let's do it. >> melissa: the first major league baseball game of 2020 is in the books, the yankees beating the nationals 4-1 in a rain shortened game. opening day leading off with dr. anthony fauci throwing out the first pitch and it was just a bit outside. meanwhile president trump announcing that he will throw
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the first pitch at yankee stadium on august 15. and stick around. at 11:00 a.m., dr. fauci will be here to talk about the latest on the pandemic and that john might ask him a little something about that pitch, too. and don't forget there is a tripleheader tomorrow on the fox broadcast network it all starts with the brewers and cubs at 1:00 p.m. eastern only on fox. >> john: a president trump endorsing the new cdc guidelines for reopening schools this fall. >> president trump: fortunately the data shows that children are at a lower risk from the china virus, very substantially. when children do contact the virus they are often only have very mild symptoms or none at all. >> john: a new proposal from the president calls for billions of dollars to support schools while offering some flexibility to parents. plus, this. some tense moments in portland,
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and save without breaking my back or breaking the bank. >> president trump: we are asking congress to provide up $105 billion to schools as part of the next coronavirus relief bill. >> would you consider directing some of that money toward testing for individual schools? that's what it took to open the schools. >> president trump: if they feel that that's what they want, it would be fine. >> melissa: i recognize that masked man. president trump reversing course saying that some schools would need to hold off on reopening as coronavirus infections search across the nation.
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and former president of north carolina. i know many schools including the one that my children attend were waiting to hear those details. as one of america's greatest assets, our children while taking every precaution to protect students, teachers, staff and all their families. do you agree that, when you weigh the risk to staying home and going back to school, that the future of our children's health, it's better for them to go back to school.
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>> under the right conditions that caveat is important just as president trump said yesterday, places that are hot spots may need to delay or reconsider. but for the most part, absolutely, that is the right kind of guidance and i think the issues that has court gotten short shift in this debate has been that health is certainly important but the downside is our students not being actively engaged with adults and learning progressively. >> melissa: so there is one person, the governor of florida who takes exception to the caveat that you just carved out. the president also said that these rules apply it unless you are in an area that is a hot spot. that's governor desantis and here's what he had to say. >> if you are not comfortable with that you have the right to maintain distance learning. we havthe parents have the righo
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what they want but there is concern the students will fall behind. >> melissa: one of the biggest criticisms it is, we are talking about distance learning and kids that have more money have more support. they have wi-fi, they have more support from their parents. for kids that were already struggling in school they were less likely, especially if they were lower income come to at home have the kind of support that you need for distance learning. what about special needs kids, kids that aren't getting meals? those are all arguments against this idea that in hot spots, kids should stay home. how do you respond to that particular argument? >> urban school districts in particular where a lot of the students attend worked really hard this summer to get broadband at ubiquity hot spot
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devices distributed at and on and on. it will be much better this fall than it was in the spring but i don't disagree with governor desantis in that, we are each responsible for our own health and i do think, it's also the safety of our workforce, our educators, our teachers and administrators are issues. there are no no risk solutions here and as parents and families and communities have to weigh education and health. >> melissa: i just wonder really quick before we go, here in the fall we've been told our kids aren't going bac back to sl full time, my son could go's shop at chanel five days a week and expose the folks there in that retail store, they are there five days a week. but for some reason we haven't found a way to send to the classroom five days a week and
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keep those teachers safe. why are workers and boutiques and stores, why are they allowed to be exposed to this risk that we are talking about but teachers aren't. do you understand that that weird situation, it would be difficult for parents to understand that, is it a correct way to approach things? >> i think our local, state and national governments have a unique responsibility that is it different from a private business or boutique. so we have to think about the safety of the entire community and so on, but yes. i understand that. that's why parents need options and students need options, high-quality, online come in person or a hybrid. >> melissa: margaret spelling, thank you for your time today. >> john: a terrifyingly close call caught on camera.
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we open our arms to the chinese citizens only to see them exploit our society. >> president trump: secretary of state mike pompeo slamming that government just hours after beijing moves to shut down the u.s. consulate. let's bring in in pryor, deputy director of public affairs. also this report says the justice department set on thursday that they believe the chinese researcher from the university of california davis, who is accused of hiding her ties to that u.s. military is taking refuge. in the chinese consulate in san francisco. what do you make of these facts and how should americans interpret them? >> that's a great question. when i was at the department of justice the national division was under my portfolio and now i
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work with a group called 5g action now, which is concerned with the chinese threat. the one threat that we have here is no matter what we are talking about whether it's corporate espionage or allowing state-controlled companies like while way to build out 5g networks all around the world, china is a major threat to american national security. i applaud secretary pompeo for his speech yesterday. it was excellent and it's time that americans realized the insidious threat that we get from the chinese communist party. >> melissa: one person who might disagree with you as presidential candidate joe biden. here is what he said in may. >> we can do what we need to do without punishing anybody. china is going to eat our lunch. come on, they are not bad folks, but guess what? they are not in competition for us. >> melissa: that was may of 2019. do you think he has changed his point of view or do you think
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that point of view is accurate? >> that sounds like joe biden's point of view. i'm sure that when we get into today, is point view as he communicated to the american public will be very different. but the fact of the matter is everyone from great britain to the united states is realizing the threat that china poses and i think in large part is due to the handling of coronavirus. but i think if you look just last week the united kingdom rescinded its division to allow huawei to build out its 5g networks. if joe biden doesn't, he's not qualified to be president of the united states. >> melissa: in light of all these things going on do you have any hope that we will have any sort of trade deal with them in the next few years even as his hostilities continue to rise? do you think the economics relationship will further deteriorate from here?
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>> it is interesting and i believe pompeo said this yesterday that you can push back on china. for years we have not pushed back on china and its continue to gain ground. now that we are pushing back we will see how far china is willing to go. we are pushing back and president trump in the administration is pushing back. so will they come to the table? it will be interesting to see how that plays out. >> melissa: and prior, thanks so much for your time. >> john: a fox news alert from portland as the cdc has its seventh night of unrest. how the federal response to the chaos that shifting is a protest persist, coming up next.
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>> melissa: knight 57 of portland protests. demonstrators flooding the streets around a u.s. courthouse, putting a sharper focus on the federal response. welcome to pay a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." happy friday, i melissa francis melissa francis. >> john: love the sound of that, happy friday, i'm john roberts. sandra smith is off today. homeland security reportedly expanding the effort to protect federal property as a special response team is reportedly
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headed for seattle today. the violence he saw was disturbing. >> rioters, people who set fire on the opposite side of the fence, and that left me with a bruise. i got shot right in the head. we are not happy with how things have been and we are not happy about it here in the last week. >> melissa: william la jeunesse is live on the west coast. >> what begin with racism six weeks ago has become a nightly ritual. some coming from seattle to join the show.
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>> this is definitely a lot more aggressive. it's only my second night here. >> if they are going to be violent, we have to match them. >> some setting fire from inside the fence. the fence that the city now says must be removed because the feds didn't obtain a permit. agents told demonstrators by loudspeaker to get off the fence and they responded with billing, chairs and car horns after they used tear gas and foam bullets to push them back. >> they are definitely not being discriminatory about what they shoot at you. >> protesters used leaf blowers
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to disburse the gas, saying officers had been hit by projectiles and laser beams. squaring off against president trump president trump. >> call this out for what it is, the president is using these federal forces. he went into the crowd and they knocked him. >> an agent told me yesterday that we are identical to those. and no one claimed about them then. >> melissa: it is chaos. new fox news poll showing joe biden leading
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president trump and three battleground states and michigan. biden topping 49-40 and biden has a 14-point edge, and in battleground pennsylvania biden is ahead 15-39%. there's been a lot of secret trump voters out there who don't tell pollsters what they are thinking. when you look at those numbers, are there enough secret trump voters out there to make up the deficit? >> no. when you look at the internals at this point, you need to emphasize it's exactly 102 days so a lot can change. when you look at the internals, who do you trust more to handle the coronavirus, who do you trust more to handle race relations by overwhelming numbers, double digits in these
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key swing states. even on the economy which is considered the president's strong suit, it's almost a dead heat and a lot of these states. i've got to wonder whether his very traumatic and obviously they're in the front lines of the white house have noticed it's a very different approach to the coronavirus this week, talking about it's going to beat get worse and it's patriotic to wear masks, and most dramatically, canceling his acceptance speech. it strikes me as, he recognizes that if you are in a hole, stop digging. >> john: we do seem to see a different president trump at those coronavirus and other things briefings in the 5:00 hour but i've talked to some republicans who say that that's
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not the thing for the president to do, the melancholy trump won't change voters. yes we will put masks on and we will do everything we can to beat this coronavirus, it's sort of like, make america great again only with a different message in terms of how we go about doing it. the trump that you see at 5:00 every afternoon is, is that a trump that can win? >> you have been there in person but i have to say watching it on tv, it strikes me as a more disciplined a trump and more realistic trump saying this is a bad situation and that we need to get a handle on it. at one point as you well remember, one of the press conferences a month or so ago when a reporter was wearing a mask, he said take it off, i can't hear you. the reporter said i want to keep the mask on and he said, you're
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being politically correct, that strikes me as a very smart and effective way to approach this. he's keeping them shorter and not taking every question that every reporter wants to ask, it just strikes me as a more disciplined president. i haven't seen it as being melancholy and if people do, i don't think melancholy will last long. this is a pretty optimistic candu president. >> john: let's look at the polling again. women 53 through 35, 73-12, that's a problem in michigan. seniors 54-37, put up the numbers for pennsylvania and will see that they are very similar. it's been said that a day is a long time and politics and a week is forever and you've
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pointed out we have more than 100 days. what does he need to do to turn it around? >> i think this approach to the violence, more disciplined and realistic not so much what he wants the world to be but dealing with the world as it is, it is effective. what he's got to do in kind of a macro sense is, right now donald trump is running against donald trump. it's a referendum on donald trump and how it's handled with coronavirus and economic fallout and also race relations. he has to turn this from a referendum into a choice election and it's hard to do with joe biden so sheltered. the vice president will have to come out obviously with that convention, with three debates and with the fall campaign. if he can turn it into more of a choice election, this is where i would take the country as opposed to where joe biden would
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take the country on big government and spending, a lot of programs and innovation. right now when you look at those numbers in particular, independence is almost 42-24 or something like that, it's almost double. seniors who went for trump in 2016 now going strongly for biden and also the suburbs. he can't win with those numbers, it's got to turn them around. >> let's talk about jacksonville for a second, i was there when the president came out and sort of surprised us all. here's what he said about the jacksonville convention. >> president trump: this afternoon my political team came to me and laid out my plans for convention in jacksonville, florida. i looked at my team and i said the timing for this event is just not right, not right with
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what's happened recently to flare up in florida. to have the right flare up, it's not the right time. i have to protect the american people, that's what i've always done. >> john: i think part of the president's calculation was if he had gone ahead with the convention in jacksonville he would have gotten slammed everyday by the media but these conventions represent big moments in time but you have to move the needle. it is going to miss that opportunity now, how big of an opportunity is he missing here? >> you could argue that he's missing one in the sense that -- and you've got to know that he hated doing what he did yesterday, they may have decided that he had no alternative but you know donald trump wanted to be in a huge arena or outside in a huge stadium, and that's not
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an easy decision he had to make but i think you are right. the optics of the speech which he loved were going to be outweighed by the optics of holding this particularly. it was thought that this convention acceptance speech was going to be a super spreader of itself but having said that it, joe biden wouldn't get the bump from his acceptance speech either. it's going to be a different campaign and you know, the conventions will be different and the retail campaigning after labor day will be different. the debate will be the same and if anything this only increases their importance and comparison shopping people able to see the two men on the stage, side-by-side, and decide who do i want to be president for the
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next four years? >> john: in some ways i guess i conventions will be a bit of a watch. who do we have coming up on fox news sunday? will be talking to the secretary of the treasury steven mnuchin, obviously a disappointment as they were going to lay out their economic plan and the relief plan for the fourth stimulus bill this week. they couldn't come to an agreement so they will talk about it next week. we talked to steven mnuchin about where negotiation stand among republicans, and the very latest on where the coronavirus stands at this point. >> john: chris wallace, always good to see you and if i could add my voice to the accolades you've already received, great interview with the president last weekend and i know for a fact the president enjoyed it as well, i think he likes the challenge. >> while he was very gracious afterwards and i will say,
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neither of us enjoyed the 100-degree heat. but i want to emphasize again, he wanted to do it outside. >> john: chris, we will see you on sunday, thanks so much. >> melissa: that interview was a great television, you can't beat that. fox news alert out of florida come to state setting a one-day record for covid-19 deaths not reported at 173 yesterday, and this month the alone. phil keating is live in miami. >> today could be the day, it's quite possible that florida makes the 100,000 mark. that includes that 173 fatality record. that pushes the states death toll now beyond 5500. over the past week the states
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are averaging ten and a half new positives every day and the hospitalization rate for those infected, and the state, is 6%. hospitals and icu units are experiencing near full or beyond full capacity. and, it is a daily struggle. >> u.s. surgeon general jerome adams for stressing that all americans need to be wearing masks when in public and that's mandatory in several florida cities and counties including miami beach and miami. 40 cops are specifically
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assigned to enforce it and write $100 citations if necessary which they have done. in jacksonville the city council was set to discuss hosting the rnc, or maybe not because council members were concerned about safety of the crowds and coronavirus. the emts were already strapped. in a new quinnipiac university poll it shows that 70% of floridians want a statewide mask mandate and that is something that governor ron desantis has refused to do. melissa? >> melissa: that's a lot to absorb it there. phil keating, we start requiring ethnic and social justice classes for a student to graduate.
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>> melissa: the country's largest four-year public university system will soon require students to take ethnic or social justice studies in order to graduate. the california state university system making the change starting in the 2023-24 academic year. ben shapiro is editor and chief in the daily wire, and he is the host of the ben shapiro show podcast. thanks for joining us. what is the harm in having classes like this even if you don't agree with what they are teaching? i know i personally in college was exposed to so many different points of view. if you want to hear what these different professors are teaching so that you can inform your own opinion, that doesn't mean that students are brainwashed to go along with whatever it is that they are teaching. >> they are brainwashed when you are forced to take classes that you don't opt to take another
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one of the arenas in which of the universities have moved away from the educational mission of trying to inform, about job possibilities for example or skill sets, and towards a political point of view. the studies that are being promoted are specifically aspects of the united states that typically are considered under underrepresented. this is basically a makework program for a lot of various ethnic study program. i went to many jewish ethnic studies courses when i was at ucla but i opted into them. in order to graduate with a degree in engineering seems rather counterproductive. >> melissa: you have a new book out, how to destroy america in three easy steps. the basic premise is this idea that america was founded on the principle that it's an idea. they were all created equal by nature and have the same opportunity going forward regardless of your race and
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gender, basically this is a country for freedom. you said that's being destroyed in three easy steps. >> you have shared philosophy, shared culture and basic idea of independence are considered either passe or obstructions to a better and more utopian world. american history is being written from a glorious history in an attempt to reach foundational ideals. we struggle and we fall, it's founded in racism and rooted in bigotry and all the institutions of the united states are unchangeable he horrible and america's culture which is culture and entrepreneurship, those are supposed to go out the window in favor of a culture that really believes we have to say the same thing in the same tenor and with the same level of passion in order to be accepted into sort of mainstream "woke"
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society. >> melissa: it seems like your theories are, one is a system where we can continually strive where everyone is treated equally and has equality of opportunity. we have tried to crack that along the way, we see that with women, races and religion. the system itself is a fundamentally good thing. america as it was established in the first place was founded on the racist ideals of things like slavery and those that we celebrate, that thing we call the american spirit, is actually opportunist and oppression. am i getting that right? the second group, they can sort of hold of a lot of different examples to show that they are right, entrepreneurs do take advantage of people and they are opportunist and that's kind of
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how it is defined. how do you battle back? >> the way you battle back is the united states is a most prosperous, not only to hundreds of millions of americans at home but the basis that america was rooted in ideals that have been founded -- it's historically ignorant and stupid and counterproductive. the basic idea is all the institutions of the united states are so deeply flawed that the entire system has to be brought down from the root. if you think that bringing down the system from free markets and free exchange and freedom of association, that is not progress, that is regressive. >> melissa: ben shapiro, thank you for your point of view this morning, we appreciate it. >> john: there are growing concerns of an eviction process and the economic fallout.
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>> president trump: when we talk about biden, he has a manifesto that he agreed to, i caught a manifesto for open borders and things that you wouldn't even believe. these are left-wing at a level that i don't think bernie ever talked about the same extent. >> john: president trump last night telling sean hannity that joe biden's listening to radical democrats and it's taking him further to the left. time now for our panel, lauren clapper is that assistant deputy for strategic communications and public affairs at the department of homeland security and that bennett. let's start with you. isn't biden being pulled too far to the left by people like bernie sanders? >> he just isn't. what the president said last night on hannity was nonsense. there's no evidence that joe biden was moving to the
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left. if you even look at the work of the committees that were put together at the end of the primaries where sandra's supporters and biden people were working together, none of that has moved joe biden much to the left because joe biden knows who he is. but still who he had he is. >> john: a bernie sanders came out after the agreement was put together and said this agreement, this unity will make joe biden the most progressive president since fdr. so do you think he is being pulled to the left? >> i do. obama echoed that sentiment as well and called biden -- you have your own party members, the participants and activist saying that biden really doesn't have an ideology. he is adopting more of their
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progressive platform and ideals and so i think this should be concerning to a lot of people who think that joe biden is this moderate candidate who will come in and will appeal to the obama and trump voters. that's not the case because biden is far left. >> john: if this is a time in the campaign when they traditionally move to the senator, if biden is in fact riding the coattails and others, could that potentially end up with trouble for biden? >> no because it isn't true. we had a very vigorous debate -- >> john: while policies don't have to be true. but our party had a really tough debate about which direction we wanted to go and one direction was going to be pretty sharply to the left. for a while it looked like that's where democrats might be
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headed but now -- then people started voting. we saw people voting in south carolina and super tuesd super tuesday, we decided we would proceed in a much more moderate direction. we protected things like medicare for all and degree new deal and open borders and in fact went with a guy who was squarely was in the tradition of democratic thought and we are not looking far left. that's just not true. >> john: outlets change gears and talk about this investigation. the briefing was given on augusn more of a fishing investigation than a briefing. >> general flynn, a great gentleman has been treated so horribly and still is, a lot of things have been learned and what happened is a disgrace, again, it should never ever
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happen to a president. >> john:.at >> john: i'm sorry s the president talking about potential pardons for people in the investigation. do you think the president should pardon people like paul manafort in general? >> i think he needs to consider it carefully because some of these people did commit federal crimes by life and think lying to federal investigators should not be taken lightly in our system. however i do think it is an unfair investigation and there were indications that there may have been instances of entrapment and that needs to be addressed. when the president is looking at this and makes the right call where he is not condoning actions that are illegal, he's not making a nod toward the fact that these people could be treated unfairly. >> we saw the democratic reaction, if we were to pardon
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somebody like paul manafort or flynn, what would be the respo respond? >> some of them pled guilty and others were found guilty by juries of their peers and they committed major crimes. they should be punished for it. the fact that he commuted stone sentence is an outrage. democrats can react in kind. >> john: i would hazard a guess that nothing will happen until after the election. >> millions of american famili families, and it took effect in march as part of the cares act for coronavirus relief. many experts say we are on the
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verge of a full stomach full blown election crisis. gillian turner is live with mo more. >> so you are right, the government's ban on evictions is set to expire in just a few hours and then 20 million american families are facing the threat of being kicked out of their homes, something that experts have been ringing alarm bells about in recent weeks because in this month alone, 32% of american households amidst either their rent or mortgage payment and it's a staggering number. experts also say america's biggest cities will be hit the worst which is where most renters live. >> we are about to go over a cliff here in this city in terms of people potentially losing their housing and we have to stop it. >> los angeles is another potential hot spot on the verge of crisis. >> even though i'm receiving
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unemployment it's still not the same amount i was before. my rent, about 30% of what my income was before the pandemic. >> democratic leadership wants to include housing in the next supplemental bill that's working its way through the capitol hill night. >> if we pass emergency rental assistance, we help families and individuals pay the bills, stay in their homes and stabilize the rental market and keep up, help owners keep up with her property and mortgages. >> they claim more mortgages will be more sick americans. >> forcing people out of their homes during a pandemic will make a public health crisis worse. widespread housing disruption will also affect essential workers and others who are
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keeping our economy going. >> neither shamir nor warren can resist digging republicans. >> we are just days away from a housing crisis that could be presented if mitch mcconnell stops stalling in the senate a act. >> now we have talked to republicans all morning long on capitol hill and at the white house and they all say keeping americans in their homes is our top priority for president trump and a mass scale evictions won't happen on his watch. >> melissa: we will see. gillian turner, thank you for that. >> john: a philadelphia police officer could find himself on the wrong side of the law. what he is accused of doing. plus some parents in california taking governor newsom to court to reopen schools. an attorney representing one of those parents joins us next.
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>> john: a philadelphia police officer as if they facing assault charges after a video appeared to show him pepper spraying peaceful, healing protesters. it happened during a june 1st protest. police were called to the scene when the demonstration caused traffic jams. >> melissa: a group of parents from california suing gavin newsom. harmeet dhillon is an attorney for one of those appearance. what is the basis of your case and what remedy are you seeking? >> i actually represent all the plaintiffs in this case and we are seeking on behalf of parents and kids throughout the united states that the governor provide of state law requires effective education for all
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children in california. instead with the governors are doing is by order barring over 80% of california's kids from having in person learning, given the fact that the children are the least at risk of this disease and those socioeconomically challenged kids have been hit hard by this. the state needs to step up and it do better and have the resources necessary to provide protection. that's the state's journey. >> when they respond to the president has talked about putting billions of dollars in this next coronavirus relief bill but he has said he doesn't want to release it to school districts that aren't opening. by your argument, the districts need the money either way and if they are not opening they are still spending money on resources to try to help the very kids that you are talking about. wouldn't he be a better target of your anger then?
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>> no. because that's non sequitur. the state of california has a hundred billion dollar budget that is higher and every state in america it's almost $120,000 per student. the 9 billion of that dollar are specifically for disadvantaged learning challenged children's with special needs so none of that money was used, if you talk about the budget in the spring. they didn't do the education, even if it doesn't, education funding generally comes from the state. so the government is only responsible for a very small percentage of the educational budgets. under the federal constitution with due process to not only provide that education, even if they can do it safely.
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this is a disgrace, it's a failure and will cause huge economic problems and emotional problems and learning problems for the kids in california. >> melissa: we figured out a way to make it safe for people to work every day but for some reason we haven't figured out a way to make it safe for children and teachers to be in the classroom every single day. what do you think is the motivation behind that, do you think -- teachers associations or the most powerful union lobby in the united states and they effectively own the governor and they are dictating the policy. we know from all of the scientific data and study after study has shown that the risk to
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the children is nonexistent. >> melissa: before we run out of time, there are teachers that want to teach. >> most of the teachers want to teach but i told you it's a teachers union that doesn't want them to teach because there is power and holding out. or canceling the police for medicare for all, they are using their power as leverage for political gain and that's exactly what is happening in california. i've spoken to a lot of teachers, the teachers want to teach and the kids want to be taught, it's the politics that is failing our kids in california. >> melissa: i certainly want all of my kids back in the classroom that i feel safe with that. thank you for coming on today and good luck and received. harmeet dhillon. >> john: for the frustrated parents out there. he has become the face of covid-19 in america, dr. anthony fauci joins us live. where does a country country evstand right now? a year.
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>> of the statue of general robert e. lee was taken down in richmond. our crew worked overnight to remove the statue and other confederate monuments and took them to an undisclosed location. richmond was once the capital of the confederacy and these are the latest confederate symbols to come down after a nationwide protest over george floyd's death. >> the senate majority has assembled a framework for carriers to. the administration has requested additional time to refine details but we will be laying down this proposal early next week. it is the framework that will enable congress to make a law and the liberal.
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it is because senate majority leader mitch mcconnell announced a delay in releasing the g.o.p.'s proposal for new coronavirus economic relief packages. and mitch mcconnell says that cares to will be about jobs, kids and health care. it is that the case? >> i just think, you know what? he came up with the slogan, no one wants to hear slogans right now. the world is falling apart and we were being told that we will never come back economically. the reason we are here is
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because of swift action. the federal reserve acted swiftly, congress is sitting around and coming up with slogans and the clock is ticking. i think the republicans are playing an extraordinarily dangerous game. we are all worried about the dead and we are worried about what it could mean for our children and grandchildren and it's a luxury to be able to worry about the future when you have a catastrophe in the present. the big fight over the $600, obviously we don't want to pay people so much money and they don't want to work. when the nguyen was talking about 70% of what people were earning, or what the states are, take a look at the maximum state unemployment numbers. these are swing states, republicans, florida $275, michigan $362, arizona $240.
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so if you tell these folks, we are not going to cut off all that money and you live on $240 until jobs go back to your neighborhoods, kissed the states goodbye and because the recovery goodbye. find a sweet spot somewhere soon at work over the weekend, we will get it done. it's an emergency and it's too early to take a victory lap. speed limit their headline says, phase four flop. they need to offer voters alternative policies that would return the economy in 2021 to its precovid prosperity. they take it to the voters, and republicans are running as pelosi life. >> i think republicans have to ignore "the wall street journal" right now and it's not -- it's
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an economic crisis in the second, every tick of each day, another restaurant goes out of business, another day care goes out of business, another salon goes out of business, every single day what we've been able to achieve against this backdrop has been nothing short of a miracle but it's not all divine intervention. they were smart things that were done and we have must keep the pedal to the metal. get something done asap. >> john: we will see what they come up with next week. charles from the house of pain. >> melissa: promising progress in the push for a vaccine with several candidates and entering a new phase of testing.gh so realistically when might we expect something? dr. anthony fauci, next.
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>> john: a fox news alert, a showdown over shutting down more than 150 doctors and health professionals signing an open letter calling on a nation to hit the reset button by shutting down a second time. that as the number of americans are infected with coronavirus passes 4 million and counting. in moments i will speak with dr. anthony fauci, the nation's leading infectious disease expert. what does he say we need to do to get back to "normal" and how long might that take? and we have to talk about that pitch that signals baseball is finally back musical physical >> melissa: and another
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fox news alert, a live look inside of the white house a blue room. president trump will soon give the nations highest civilian honor to a legend whose life has taken him to the olympics to capitol hill and beyond. champion runner jim ryan about to receive the presidential medal of freedom. >> john: but we begin this hour with a stunning change in tone from president trump on the pandemics somberly talking about safety and setting an example as president. welcome to a brand-new last hour of "america's newsroom." i'm john roberts, sandra smith is off. melissa francis, how are you this morning? >> melissa: fantastic. i am melissa francis as john said, president trump canceling part of the national convention over coronavirus concerns. the president is saying it's just the right thing to do.
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>> president trump: the flare up in florida to have a big convention is not the right ti time. it's really something that for me i have to protect the american people and that's what i have always done and always will do. >> melissa: kevin corke's life of the white house. >> certainly a surprise yesterday if you are watching the president speak and he came right out and said that. i think a lot of people were taken aback but the fact is after having the convention move from north carolina to florida to obviously have that big celebration and accept his party's nomination the president making it clear yesterday that the florida portion is now off thanks to the risk of the coronavirus. >> president trump: i looked at my team and said the timing of this is not right with what happened recently. >> what has happened recently in florida is a very sharp rise in
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the number of cases and the number of deaths classified as being the result of having covid-19. over 5500 floridians out of 389,000 confirmed cases have died due to the coronavirus. according to statistics, democrats pounced on the latest decision to scuttle the convention and this was tom perez. unlike trump we followed the science, listen to doctors and public health experts and worked through plans to protect lives. while the president won't have a traditional convention in jacksonville the g.o.p. now like the democrats will chart a new virtual path to demonstrate their party's nominee. the fox news survey shows the president trailing first president joe biden, and michigan by nine percentage
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points. again, plus or minus three and a half on that latest survey. but for perspective, keep in mind i think it was july 262008, michael dukakis had a 17-point national lead over george h.w. bush and the gallup national poll. i think he won 40 states. again different inputs and a different era but the idea is a lot can happen between july and november. right? speak up there you go, kevin corke, thank you for that. more revelations from the latest news polls in key battleground states. joe biden receiving support from women and not white voters while president trump appears to be underperforming among men and white voters. what does this mean for the president's reelection bid? let's bring in marc thiessen, former george h.w. bush speechwriter.
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if you look at the highlights from these polls and even look at battleground states because sometimes i know people say it's not right to look at them with the national level in michigan, the groups that are favoring each side become the president appears to be deeply underwater with women, nonwhite, suburban voters. what do you make of all these numbers? >> it's not good, it's not good at all. first of all i think the polls are probably overstating the gap because there certainly are secret trump voters who particularly as a cancer culture has taken hold, it has not become more hospitable. i think it's true, and i think 57% of voters in the monmouth poll that says they think there were secret trump voters who were going to vote for trump but wouldn't say it. he has probably the most loyal
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energized base. biden is a remarkable, biden has the lowest enthusiasm of people to vote for him in 20 years but the problem is he needs to win over those swing voters who gave him the margin in 2016, particularly those suburban voters. he won suburban voters by five points in 2016 and gave him the margin in key swing states in florida, pennsylvania, ohio, michigan and other key swing states. one poll had them up nationally by 25 points and that has happened since the pandemic. he has shifted in the last few days in the way he's handling it and that's good and he still has time to make those up. >> melissa: had an interesting
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piece in "the washington post" where you argued for a bit of change, and he said you should stop making fun of former vice president joe biden's mental acuity or mental lapses. part of it is said, maybe his weakening has numbers with seniors for this and tell us more about that. any time he comes out of the basement he produces this incomprehensible outlet. he forgets what state he's in and what office he's running for, that's why he's hiding in his basement. trump should not be mocking him for it in the way he was and if
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biden strings together a few coherent sentences he wins. they are struggling with losing their memory and to have loved ones who have struggled with memory loss and dementia, and so they, even if they are concerned about joe biden's having the nuclear codes, they don't want to see the present mocking and for it. so he needs to come one come let joe biden make the case, make the issue for him by speaking. he will have a lot of opportunities to speak and he will make mental errors. ever to come up when surrogates raise it, we have too pointed
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out with joe biden because he wants those. it's a serious issue that has to be addressed. >> to be clear you are not saying it's not an issue and should be part of the campaign and it doesn't matter, what you are saying is that president trump's approach to it by mocking him, and we saw that in the interview with chris wallace where he said he is shot, mentally shot, and also invariably, there were words that didn't belong together in a sentence. the closing statement is something that i would think he would rehearse ahead of time, not a response to a question about something that you would have prepared to go. so would you advise the president ahead of the debate
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that's not his style though, the president. >> that's what the president should be saying. for a debate you want to raise expectations for your opponents and lower them for yourself. so lowering expectations for joe biden is making the bar so low that he can jump over pretty easily. he has to be very careful also and preparing himself, and he shows that he's not all there. he needs to not attack him and he also needs to be prepared for the possibility that biden can string together an hour and a half of coherence or -- the debate prep is going to be very tricky but he will not make fun of joe biden or seem to be attacking him for his mental lapses. but you are right, mental lapses
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are an important issue because you want your commander and chief to be quickly there. >> melissa: marc thiessen, thanks for coming on, we appreciate it. interesting stuff. >> i just want to make it clear to the american public that what we have right now are essentially three new york's and that why you hear us calling for stopping the spread of the epidemic. >> john: dr. deborah birx's urging americans to take safety measures seriously as the country surpasses 4 million confirmed infections. joining me now is dr. anthony fauci. good to see you today. the first thing i want to see yomust go about you kicking off the return to baseball in america, it didn't work out the way we hoped in washington, a 4-1 win for the yankees. what was it like throwing up
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that first picture? >> besides the fact that i downstate, it was an awesome feeling to be out there. i'm a very enthusiastic fan of baseball in general, particularly at the nats, and to stand out there on the mound and throw that was a great feeling. it was humbling and awesome. >> john: i wasn't sure if you were trying to get it across a plate or get thee out at first but it was good to see baseball back in america. i want to bring up one think quickly. there's a photo of you in the stands with two people, you are not wearing a mask or social distancing but we should point out that one of those people as your wife and what about the other person? >> the other person is a very close friend of mine. think this is sort of mischievous with this thing going around. i had my mask around my chin, i had taken it down, i was totally dehydrated and i was drinking water trying to rehydrate myself. and by the way, i was negative
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covid literally the day before so i guess if people want to make a thing of that, i wear a mask all the time when i'm outside. to pull it down to take some sips of water and put it back up again, if people want to make something about that, they can. but to me i think that's just mischievous. >> john: i just wanted to give you a chance to respond. did you have any input into the president's decision to cancel the jacksonville convention and what are your thoughts on what he did yesterday? >> no i didn't. it's no secret around the white house how i and my federal task force members feel about the issue of congregating in crowds. i believe he and others in the white house have heard us speak about that so i would hope that that had some influence in the decision. but i think it was a good decision, not only the decision about that but as you can see
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the president has come around it now about wearing a mask and has actually been recommending it. i think you are moving in a positive direction in that regard. >> john: i've noticed a real shift in his tone this past week as he's been holding these coronavirus briefings, a much more sober assessment as opposed to these rosy productions he was giving us earlier in the year? >> that's true. i think you are seeing the realization of the reality that's going on and i think he's adjusting to that now and acting accordingly. i am in many respects positively responding to that because that will set a good example for the rest of the country. >> john: we started off this hour with an open letter from 150 doctors and other health care professionals saying it's time for the united states in the face of growing coronavirus cases to the reset button and shut down for a second time. is that something that you would
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support? >> i don't tickets necessary to do that, we are having the researching of cases, you could put a pause on what you are doing or maybe even take a step back. let me give you an example. if certain states or cities are in phase two of the guidelines of opening america again, you might want to either pause or go back to phase one or if you are in phase one go back to the gateway component of the guideline. so i'm not so sure you need to all of a sudden, everybody, go back to a complete lockdown. it could come to that, you always have to leave it on the table but i think you could probably get around what you are doing now and put a lid on it and stop the surge by just being a bit more cautious.
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there are some fundamental things that everyone can do and we've been speaking about them. stay social distancing, close the bars and other hand hygiene. if we just do that i believe we could have a major step in the direction that we want to go. >> john: let me ask you about masks. you back in march did not recommend wearing masks and the surgeon general didn't, either. i know back then you thought that it was because the ppe should be left for the frontline health care professionals and not have everyone else on the planet trying to gobble it up for their own personal use. but how do back then advocated strongly for some sort of facial covering, let it be a scarf like dr. birx was wearing or these cloth masks that are ubiquitous now, would we be in a different
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place than we were? >> i think we would be somewhat better off if people continuing continually wearing masks but you can always second-guess yourselves. at the time when we were told that there was a serious examination in the unavailability of ppes and people who really need them, we didn't realize how significant the amount of asymptomatic infection was, or more importantly the fact that people who were asymptomatic or presymptomatic could transmit the virus. that's something we know for sure occurs right now. so the situation was different. you acted on the information you had at the time and i believe in the context of that it was not unreasonable what was being done. as you get more information the way we have right now, there's
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no question about what we should be doing and that's why everyone is uniformly recommending the masks. >> john: there is resurgent see around other places that have been doing well, like australia and hong kong, which makes me wonder. is this fire it in inevitable, or -- >> i think we can address this and so called confront the virus by doing the kinds of things of public health things that we do. if we can keep the virus at bay until we get a vaccine which, as we mentioned multiple times with you in prior discussions that we had, that i feel cautiously optimistic that we will have a vaccine in a reasonable time likely in the beginning of 2021, you know on monday a candidate is going into a phase three
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trial which is the efficacy which is really good news. i think as a global community including obviously us here at the united states, we goes through public health measures to keep the viral outbreak at a very low baseline level. i don't think we will eradicate it, i think it's just so easily transmissible that i don't think that could happen but we certainly could control it better than we are doing. if we could do that at the local level, i think we could really stop it dead in its tracks. >> john: i have to ask you one more question dr. fauci, because it's been a while since we have had a chance to talk. and that is the relationship with you and president trump. guess what he told chris walla chris wallace.
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>> president trump: i have a very good relationship with dr. fauci. he's a little bit of an alarmist and that's okay. he said at the beginning this will pass and he was wrong. he said don't band china, and i did and he admitted i was right. >> john: i have to ask you, it's very forceful personality was. once a relationship like? >> it's good. not just saying that for the sake of saying it, but i had a nice long conversation with the president, it was constructive and it was good. i believe -- we've always had and still to this day have a good relationship. i'm sure if you asked the president, he would say the same thing. and he's being honest about it. >> john: we wish you a lot of luck. this is a problem we need to definitely get a handle on. dr. fauci, thanks for coming on. >> melissa: so it turns out president trump's very first intelligence briefing four years
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>> president trump: we could solve it. if they invited us in we would go in with 50,000, 75,000 people and we would be able to solve it like you wouldn't believe it, and quick. but they just don't want to ask, may be for political reasons but they don't want to ask and it's a disgrace. >> melissa: and president trump suggesting violence could be contained if local leaders asked for help. so far, leaders that have been most affected by the violence. arizona congressman andy biggs joins us now. do you think that's the right choice or do you think that these areas should allow the feds in? some say the federal forces that are on the ground whether it's dhs in portland are making things more difficult rather than better. >> i think it is the right choice if you want to get back
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to a point of safety for your municipality. but happening in portland is really every night for 50 nights or more of you have people that want to burn down the federal court building. the federal civilian agents, not military but civilian agents are protecting federal property. right now i think of where the appropriate limits, what they do is they throw their incendiary is at the federal courthouse and it tried to light it on fire, and think that it gives them immunity but it isn't. i think it would be helpful in other places, there are presidents loath to get there because so many people are just -- they seem to be okay with the violence in the municipalities. >> melissa: let me take you to
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the question of schools because i know your estate is one of the spots where we've seen an uptick. this is what your school superintendent had to say. the arizona school superintendent had to say about opening schools and restate. let's listen and i will get your response. >> many of our school districts have oft stated, co-opted in person instruction until october so we do expect different schools will have different start dates, and there could be scenarios in the future where a school could open for in-person instruction and then if there happens to be another outbreak in that area they may need to close again. >> melissa: do you agree with that action? >> i'm struggling with that action because i think the data is clear, cdc has indicated that in a normal flu season kids are more at risk than even in the
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covid situation. in arizona what they are doing, if a child says if parents don't have someplace to put their child, they want the schools open to receive them. they are just not going to educate them and that seems to be at odds to me. if you are going to allow them to operate as a child care facility, you certainly would allow them to educate as an institutional situation. maybe what we need to do is just let the parents have the school choice because they are discounting the harm to students both physically, emotionally and helpfully as well as by denying them access to schools.
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>> melissa: not everyone can afford to go to those schools that are open. thank you moments out. >> melissa, thanks. i newly declassified fbi document revealed agents were actively listening for certain topics when candidate trump was briefed in 2016. a reaction from kt mcfarland straight ahead. (vo) verizon knows how to build unlimited right. start with america's most awarded network. offer it at a price built for everyone with the most advanced iphone yet. iphone 11 pro on us when you buy one. because everyone deserves the best. this is unlimited built right.
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>> john: fox news alert, in a newly declassified documents about the russia investigation russia investigation, the document shows a first intelligence briefing as a candidate was led by agents who had already opened an investigation into his team's ties to russia. a summary of that briefing would later be filed as part of the so called hurricane investigation. kt mcfarland is a former national security advisor to president trump and an author of the new book, resolution. let me pull up a little bit of this memo from japan, and he says "during the o.d. nia, director of national intelligence briefs actor actively listen for topics or questions regarding the russian federation. during discussion regarding nuclear testing, russia and china were brought up as
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cheating on the nuclear test ban treaty. trump asked, who is worse? they are both bad but russia is worse. christie commented, i'm shocked. it was governor chris christie, president trump and michael flynn all in that meeting this is just simply extraordinary. a defensive briefing. i set up a number of defensive briefings for the national security council and white house staff in the beginning of the trump administration. this is how you handle it, this is what you don't take home from work. one of the points that we made it, you are new to this. people are going to try to recruit you and here are the things that to watch out for.
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somebody knew pops up, and somebody is trying to cultivate the friendship. they may actually have some connection to the foreign government. it turns out those briefings were not really to warn the trump administration about other people sign on them. they were excuses, that's the most egregious abuse of power that was seen in a long time. >> president trump brought up that very fact on hannity last night. >> they spied on the campaign using the intelligence agencies of our country. this is treason, this is many things that you can call it but obama and biden do everything. >> president trump has long maintained that campaign was spied on.
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>> and i think there are a couple of things to say about this. they all took note. and they took notes into their own hands. now why did they do that? part of it was because they never thought they would get caught. they could blame the rating. this is not anonymous sources leaking, these are actual documents and piece of paper, text messages and emails. they are starting to be released of the mid-level people. my question is, once those documents are released it usually indicates that the justice department is done with them. they have already looked through them and they've already talked to those people and may be a vindication that other heads will fall soon.
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>> john: if you could also be an indication that the room is about to drop the findings of his investigation but that may not happen until after the election. one thing i found interesting is that if this was a defensive briefing, why wasn't president trump and his entourage informed her that the russians were targeting their campaign? >> that's to make any sense because they were using the opportunity to spy on trump. that's a bottom line. >> melissa: public donations are coming in to cover the cost of funerals for three friends who were murdered during a fishing trip in florida. plus, president trump moving to lower the price of prescription drugs. grover norquist will be here to discuss the president's plan for executive action.
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>> melissa: later today president trump is expected to sign executive orders and that lowering the price you pay for prescription drugs but the idea is facing resistance from the industry. not surrender to it. grover northwood is the founder and president of americans for tax reform and he joins us now. the problem that we are really talking about here grover is the free rider problem and this idea that we have all of this innovation that goes on in the u.s. to find these drugs that prolong your life and americans end up paying for that innovation in order to reward the company that has come up with it. then the drug goes abroad and there, it sold for pennies. so the president is trying to put into place something called up most favored nations where our drug prices would be as low as the drug prices of those other countries.
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what is the problem with that and why does that not solve the free rider problem? >> because it doesn't solve the problem, it makes it worse. it's as we will do the same stupid thing that europeans are doing. so since we have monopoly purchases with american drugs, we will only pay this amount of money. by the way, if you don't let us cheat you that way we will still your patents and so we have let them get away with that for years. we haven't fought them's sufficiently in trade agreements or negotiations and the president is saying we are getting up giving you up and of the asian countries, that millions of jobs are based on here in the united states. like we said, we are importing price controls which means all
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the disincentives to invent next generations drugs and next year's drugs gets worse and not better. there are many ways that you could drop prices for drugs if you sped up testing in the united states. if you accepted test done in written, and if you get the government out of the way, you can negotiate with others and say, guys, you can't cheat us on that. there are other ways we can kick you in missions so don't steal our stuff. >> melissa: although we watch the president trying to do this with china with the great comic trade agreement, we all known about the theft of intellectual property and all the things that they force companies to do in order to do business in china. he works on it very hard and we haven't made a lot of progress.
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we could try to change the situation so that other companies didn't have them over the barrel. >> is the challenge. the ipi importing national price controls makes it worse for america, not better. this is not a way to get something good, this is going in the wrong direction. we should keep fighting to do it right not give up and do something that's destructive to american jobs and american innovation. grover, thank you, we will be right back.
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president trump awarding the medal of freedom for congress dome academic to former congressman jim ryan, and all olympic medalist who in 1964 became the first high school student to run a mile in under . mark meredith is in washington with more. >> good morning, melissa. jim ryan already has a silver metal and, now president trump drawing attention to his accomplishment and personal life. as you mentioned it was back in 1964 when he was 17 years old and became the first high school athlete to be recorded running a mile in under 4 minutes. he went on to compete in the mexico city games and three olympics overall. including his time in congress, ten years representing kansas but the president also had a lot to say when it came to ryan's devotion to his family, faith and his country. >> john: will >> president trump: today is my privilege to present the nation's highest
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honor, the presidential medal of freedom to a legendary athlete and legendary runner, olympian and a true american patriot, former congressman jim ryan. congratulations, fantastic. >> ryan says he still runs but not as often as he used to as you can imagine. >> melissa: what an honor. thank you for that. >> john: secretary of state mike pompeo making his most pointed remarks yet. meanwhile new rig reporting from reuters saying a sudden closure of the beijing consulate in houston was linked to coronavirus research. reuters also reporting that chinese researcher who took refuge in the china's san francisco consulate, author of the coming collapse of china. the secretary of state was very strident yesterday in his speech, which you have called
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historic? >> i think people might remember it in connection with the long telegram of 1946 and at the x article of 1947 which were george kennan's paradigm changing thoughts on the soviet union. in the speech, pompeo talked about engaging the chinese people. i don't think we've ever heard and american officials say that and clearly that is the route that we need to go because clearly the communist party is under deformable. >> john: at one of the things that secretary pompeo said is that communists always lie but the biggest lie of the chinese communist party speaks to 1.4 billion people who are surveilled, oppressed and scared to speak out and he painted an ominous vision for the future. >> if we bend the knee now, our children's children may be at the mercy of the chinese communist party. his action of the chinese party today and the free world.
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>> you say it's successive administrations that have tried to push it into and want to overthrow the international system. >> yes. xi jinping has been talking for about a decade with notions of all under heaven because they believed they were the only legitimate rulers under heaven and xi jinping recycling these teams making them explicit is essentially saying he doesn't want to compete with the united states and the current international system which was established in 1648. he wants to overthrow it altogether which means that china's challenge to the united states is existential. this is not just some sort of, boys will be boys, competition for dominance, it's a fight for the american republic and fight for our sovereignty. >> john: we mentioned at the top that we ordered the chinese consulate in houston closed today and china retaliated by closing its consulate in
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chengdu. is this the end of it or just the beginning of tit for tat, and it really looks, gordon, as though a sign of u.s. relations are headed south on the rocket sled? >> they certainly are going down but we are driving this, china is driving this. as san francisco and houston were not the only places of china engaging in bad acts, we know that for instance the chinese ambassador to the u.s., and someone from the new york consulate tried to surreptitiously recruit a scientist in connecticut, a microbiologist. and that of course, the question is, why is ambassador choi in the u.s. still? that's conduct which is incompatible with his diplomatic status. >> john: and in china today blaming the whole thing on the united states saying we started it. gordon chain, thanks so much for cominge in today. the news continues, next.
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for the best reverse mortgage solutions. call now so you can... retire better >> melissa: fox is utilizing virtual fans to fill stadium seats during broadcasts of baseball games. they will use augmented reality to make the stadium appear to be full, even though the pandemic is forcing teams to play two empty parks. don't forget, there are three big games tomorrow on fox broadcast network it all starts with the brewers and the cubs at 1:00 p.m. eastern. you know, i thought this would be strange, but i have to say,
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and my house we watched soccer. when they started pumping in the fan noise, it made it better. it was more real. what do you think about the virtual fans? >> john: i think it's great. i was amazed when they put the 10-yard marker on the football field. amazing. how about that first pitch? that was amazing. >> melissa: amazing. >> john: "outnumbered" starts now. great to see you, melissa. we'll see you again. have a great day. >> melissa: you, too. the weekend >> harris: chicagomayor lori lia controversial move as protesters rally outside her own home last. they were demanding that she defund the police just one day after her call with president trump about his plans to send in federal agents to help fight chicago's crime. the mayor ordered removal of the christopher columbus statue in grant park in the middle of the night, week after protest violence they are
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