10 a.m. cavuto live governor parsons. that's it for me. "the five" is now. >> ♪ hello i am jesse watters with greg abbott, martha and donna brazil and katie. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." >> ♪ >> nancy pelosi and the democrats are politicizing the coronavirus claiming president trump for the rising number of cases across the country. >> this president has been the biggest failure in the history of our country. a pandemic, the trump virus i call it. it's rolling like a freight

train. >> and not happy with white house plans to reopen schools. the president called for over 100 billion dollars in extra funding and stressing the need to follow safety protocol and trump said schools will flexibility to delay reopening. and the cdc unveiling new guidelines saying it's important for kids to go back. none of that is good enough for nancy pelosi. >> when someone tested positive, working in a cafeteria in the white house complex, they shutdown the cafeteria and tested and traced. why wooten they do that for our children in the schools?uldn't our children in the schools? i am a lion. come near the cubs and you are dead. >> mamma grizzly action from nancy pelosi. greg, you want to be guided guy

science and the facts. we have shown over the last week at that time science and the facts are actually on the side of reopening the schools safely. it's detrimental to keep kids out of school this long? >> yes, and voicing concerns over risks toward children. the assumption is we have not thought about it. we don't have to start at the beginning of the book. we are already on chapter 10 of the pandemic. we understand the risks. we have to do the cost benefit analysis. we know the science. i don't think is one documented case of a child giving covid to anybody. that could happen. i don't think you should politicize this virus if your side is worse off. the death rate is 2.5 times in democratic states and 65% of the

virus spread came from new york. a lot of the deaths came from the rest home tragedies in new york. i would leave that alone. i don't like bringing that stuff up. most important, you don't want to listen to anybody who didn't have the guts to say early on what path they supported. leaders make choices and take risks. if you wait and then cluck when things look negative, you are a coward. you show up as if you had the answer all along but chose not to share it. pelosi knew what the right thing to do but never commited to a path. now she clucks. all of these armchair quarterbacks. either they are cowards or monsters for having the information and not sharing it with us. he is not a lioness.

he is a monster. >> [laughing]. donna. would you advise nancy pelosi to say the trump virus? do you think that's smart politics? >> as you know, i think all of this name calling is just throwing shade. you don't have nothing to offer as a solution. i am an educator. i know people who are educators. i have many in my family. we have to follow the science. parents working with educators and school districts must make the decision: what is the best way to proceed to open up our schools safely for our kids? i think that is the way to go. all of the name calling we hear in the beltway and outside of the swamp won't solve the problem. we need to do this safely. we need to get back to the abc's of education. and open up our schools and our society will get back to normal. all of this other stuff is total

bs. >> all right. i like it. dr. fauci came out and said after he threw a horrible first pitch at the national's game, he said that there is probably not going to be any more lockdowns. martha listen to dr. fauci. >> i am not so sure you need to everybody needs to go back to a complete lockdown. you have to leave that on the table. but i think we can probably get around what we are doing now and put a lid on it and stop the surging by being more cautious. >> as greg said at the top, you assess the risk and move on. >> yes. >> that's what dr. fauci said. >> i mean, as greg also said, he's been brilliant. >> no, martha. he will get a big head.

>> [laughing]. >> so, you can't start at the beginning of the book. that's what dr. fauci said. we know how successful the mask wearing experiment is. it wears well. the more people that wear masks those numbers are levelling off. we thought we needed to wipe down every surface and wash off our groceries. it could last 72 hours and spread 26 feet. it's transmitted by people who cough or sneeze. if you wear a mask you cut that down. dr. fauci is saying because we know that we don't need more lockdowns. the thing about nancy pelosi and her concern as a lioness for the cubs. close to 50% of the 142,000 people that we lost in this

country are in nursing homes. where is the passion? where is the discussion and the focus on this. it is continuing. in florida, in texas, and across the country. what we should have done was sent masks and ppe to these places. these individuals are older and have co- morbidity. i would like to see passion for the older lions who didn't need to be sacrificed. >> that's a great point. the president said this has been a learning experience. as martha said, we learned about surfaces and the sunlight and about the vulnerable populations. we are learning a lot. let's stay with the science. >> well, we also learned a lot about things that have not

worked. for example, the shutdowns don't stop the spread. 66% of new yorkers in their apartments got this when they were shutdown. dr. fauci said we won't shutdown again. you have to mitigate the risk. the american people did not make a deal to shut down forever. they want to move forward and keep this from getting worse. going to the politics, nancy pelosi calling it the trump virus? why can she call it the trump virus but when president trump calls it the chinese virus to hold the chinese communist party accountable for unleashing it this on the world and forcing this on the united states, why is she allowed to get away with that and there not outrage? on the schools.

nancy pelosi hasn't called president trump one single time to ask him or talk to him about moving forward. with the left the president can't win. he is giving them a 100 billion dollars fund. they always want more money. what is nancy pelosi's solution when she claims she wants schools to open. what is her message to single moms who want to go back to work to feed their children? acting like calling is the trump virus will get us somewhere. >> and remember the hero's act. the democrats have had a bill out there. this weekend millions of citizens will use their unemployment benefits. let's stop talking about left and right and do the right thing for the american people who are unemployed and worried about their next steps. we have to stop all of this politics to help everyone.

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mail in ballots don't work. they are not fair. we are almost 100 days out and 6 weeks from now voters will begin to cast their ballots. you know a lot about voting. why is vote by mail such a bad thing when it's what republicans and some democrats have always urged americans to do, to get their ballots in early so that people can get it out of the way for election day? >> well, i would go back, donna, to the night we spent at the iowa caucuses waiting for the decisions to come in and the difficult with the software on the app. you move forward into a difficult primary season. there were problems in california. the likelihood we will have a complicated election night that might turn into an election week

or longer is pretty good. on that layer, i think it's legitimate to question this. we have never done an election in the middle of a pandemic. there is reason to be concerned. on the other hand, you have strong rhetoric from joe biden calling the president a racist and now saying he will try to steal the election. one thing i see in that, he is sensing the shift happening right now in the trump campaign. there is a more realistic tone that came into the campaign with with regard to the fires. -- the virus. they have a new campaign manager. there is a shift. tough to maintain the kind of read joe biden has. he senses it's time to go for the gut in this moment to try to hold on and keep that lead strong. >> katie, as someone who knows about grassroots politics, what

can state and local officials do to ensure the integrity of our elections? our elections are held at the state and local level. it's not a federal election. it is held at the state and local levels. what can they do? >> that is true which is why the claims of russian hacking the national election were ridiculous in the first place. you are right. these things take place at the local level. they have been getting ready for the presidential election since the last one. they can institute the same social distancing measures they institute in schools and for months at grocery stores. mail in ballots, they want to go to the model and send registered voters mail in ballots to return, they better make sure their voter rolls are cleaned up. they don't have people who passed on or moved. if you don't have any kind of

voter i.d. it causes problems. we have seen in local elections, you have mail in ballots changed from democrat to republican. you have hundreds of ballots goingun uncounted and the post office said this will be a problem with the influx of mail and delays. there are examples of fraud. that's why the president is concerned about it. -->> we can talk about russian hacking attempts at any time. greg, do you think the postal service can ramp up before november to make sure that these ballots are not only processed and given to the election officials to count, especially given the fact that the post office might be running out of money come september? >> wait a second. the post office is running out of money? [laughing]. i thought they were efficiently

run. [laughing]. maybe that should tell us something about the postal service. i am. i am for mail in voting. i am naturally lazy. i don't like to wait in line. i think it's a good thing. i don't think we want to demonize this thing. it helps everybody. maybe just a closer eye. i am more worried about joe. every thought in his head these days is not his own. it's like he is just a slobbering echo of something you already heard. you heard this story weeks before and it's coming to him. he is like a really bad parrot that repeats stuff he hears on grandma's radio. he doesn't have any original thoughts. okay, i am looking forward to the debate. that's what i want. donna, is there going to be one? >> in fact, rick, there will be

three debates. you will have a great opportunity to have a wonderful night of popcorn and beer. jesse, will you vote by mail -- or stand in line. what is your plan? have you made plans yet? >> i don't discuss who i vote for and how. that's a sacred right of mine as an american citizen. >> are you planning to vote? will you vote this fall? >> yes, i will vote as much as i can. >> that's illegal. >> just kidding, america! >> [laughing]. >> just kidding. donna, i am not getting the post office involved. anybody who thinks getting the postal service involved in an election hasn't been paying much attention to the postal service. go to a post office or send something in the mail and see how long it takes to get there. i want to know who won the

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is at full display on a&e. they pulled their hit show live pd after george floyd's death. their viewership plummeted 50%. the "wall street journal" pushed back against employees, 280 that wrote a letter to the op-ed warning them about coverage and whether or not they are doing enough coverage of the issues concerning race. the board said unlike the "new york times" it won't wilt under cancel culture pressure. greg, is it surprising to you? a company can make a decision that they want to cancel something and kneel to the pressure of outside forces in the country because they think it's the good and kind thing to do.

people are voting about that decision. >> we started with the down side of cancel culture. that aassumes there is an upside. it's all down side. the big problem in all of these stories is fear. a&e folded before the mob because they were scared of the mob's false power. the show was cancelled because it reflected the lives of officers and did something that the media did not like, which was humanize officers during a time when we were trying to dehumanize them. you have businesses that mistake the mob and the boycott machine as something destructive when it's not actually real because the boy cot machine didn't buy anything. these were not a&e viewers upset about the show. this developed in the heads of the business people.

the point about the "wall street journal," i applaud the editor board but they don't sign the checks. it's important that the people in the business are the ones who defend you and refuse to bend before the mob. we on "the five" talk about cancel culture all the time. if we are not backed up it's pointless. you have to make sure it's the owners do it. sooner or later they will come for us, there will be something about "the five." >> donna, there is a lot of folding in a lot of environments. university campses and presidents not willing to stand up to the cancel culture and not willing to understand history. statues and all things like that. is this the first sign we are seeing of push back?

the "new york times" fired james bennett. barry walked out. these editorial page writers are saying no more. >> as you recall last fall president obama addressed this issue. this is not just an issue on the left. it's about an issue on the right. it's about not being able to i have conversation and debate a particular issue. a politician sometimes must compromise with people from the opposite side or the other party. this is a conversation we should have. this notion it's one side that afraid of seeing certain tv shows. i love the fact i never watched live pd? w why? because i have 300 chance to choose from.

i watch hd-tv. i call it adult porn. they are always taking down something. i love shows like that. but this cancel culture thing is toxic. we need to get back to having dialogues and believeing in diversity of opinions. then maybe we can live past this moment. >> yes. katie, there is a huge bullying factor in all of this. i think that's why you are seeing 46% of the country saying they don't like where this is going. they have a sense of not wanting people to be bullied. >> and they feel like it could happen to them. when you talk about a&e, it's about the network and the people who work there. not only for the people on live pd who lost their job like tom morris who worked on america's most wanted.

running down criminals for a lot of his life and the people working at the network. because they went against the audience and allowed twitter and the mob to control their decisions, they suffer the consequences of giving in to people. the adults at the "wall street journal" stood up and said no, we are adults. we can have differing opinions. in a country with free speech, we can make our own minds up about what they mean for the country. >> yes, and jesse, we have seen institutions making decisions based on a small number of americans. >> what did they think would replace live pd?

ghost hunters? seriously. >> antiques. >> whatever. it's one thing to pander. then you get hit in the pocketbook. i predict that live pd will come back on a&e ones this drama settles down. i will be watching my man dan. greg is right. the reason that show was cancelled was because it made police look good. that was not the narrative of the day. >> and the lego policemen that people like to play with. those are gone too. thanks, you guys. we will take a quick break. do not go anywhere. the fastest-7 is next. ta-da! did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? given my unique lifestyle, that'd be perfect! let me grab a pen and some paper. know what? i'm gonna switch now. just need my desk...

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first up. dr. fauci opening the baseball season with the first pitch. it didn't go as planned. donna, do you like watching baseball? what do you think about the opening pitch from dr. fauci? >> first ever all, i love baseball. i am glad it's back. he can add pitcher to his resume. i would advise dr. fauci not to apply for a job. not as a pitcher. stick with your day job. >> a little more practice, martha? >> yes. i think of bill hemmer when he threw out the ball in the cincinnati game. he talked so much about how far away the plate and how you need to practice. he dedicated an enormous amount of the time to clear the plate and he did. notice president trump will do

this at yankee stadium. he better start practicing right away, i think. >> he was practicing yesterday at the white house with a former yankees player. >> yes, with rivera. he can't afford to throw it in the dirt. i am nervous just thinking about it. he has it do better than dr. fauci who threw it to 1st base. hasn't been that accurate dr. fauci. almost as bad as 50 cent. >> greg? >> [laughing]. >> don't say the line, greg. >> i won't say the line. we were told to say home and we could not even make it home. >> yes. >> that was the worst throw in history. he is a national, universal

embarrassment. he should wear that mask for the rest of his life. he wore the mask on the mound where no one was around. i am joking. i commend him. he knew he would embarrass himself and he went ahead. i would not do that. >> that's why you didn't come to the nfl experience at the super bowl. you stayed at the pool and drank. >> exactly! that's exactly right. >> all right. >> we look forward to baseball. up next a youtube tired of his quarantine do and built a hair cutting robot. jesse, would you try this? >> oh, my god. >> it's a mullet. >> that's impressive.

>> come on. >> i have longer hair than you, donna. i might keep it. >> you just don't like gray hair, i know. >> would you trust this robot? i wouldn't. >> greg would. i don't trust robots. i like the passion in the scissor and creativity. i don't want a programmer cutting this hair. >> yes. >> i don't want to hear about your kids. i don't want to hear about your last relationship. i don't want you to ask me about my plans for the weekend. i don't want to hear about your plans from last weekend. a robot hairstylist takes care. all of that. talk is out the window and you don't have to tip. come, robots. >> hairstylists know everything about everybody. what are we going to do if we can't talk to them? >> i am not working with that

robot and it's chopping at the hair. it's very strange. i don't want to go near that thing. no thank you. >> donna? >> for my natural i want a stylist. this is naturally good gray hair. i am not getting near a robot. no, no, no. jesse, i will do your hair. >> i will tell you all of my secrets. >> whoo! >> we'll be right back. a new poll shows 60% of americans think public gym will never return. greg, we go to you as someone who lost weight in quarantine. are you ever going back to the gym? >> i will tell you something that is going to be the most important thing for our future

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>> my brother killed my fish and there was no recourse. go away. >> no justice, no fish. >> martha? >> i will never get over it. >> when did you realize life is not fair? >> probably around the same time. i had to share a bathroom with my two sisters. you had to wait in line in the hallway. all of that stuff. you figure out very early on, you look at other people. how come i can't do this or that or how come they look like that? life is not fair is a message you get early on. the most recent example is with the virus. we are not in control. life is not fair. i think it's also a good lesson we have to learn. you have to put up with what you are dealt with.

i said to my kids in kindergarten, you get what you get and don't get up set. deal with it and move on. >> yes, donna? when you realize life was not fair when you ended up here with me on the "the five"? >> no. when i ended up sitting next to jesse on a plane maybe. >> [laughing]. >> i had a few drinks, i'm sorry. >> baby, no, being the 3rd of 9 children. my mother still continued have children. i have 6 more brothers and sisters. not fair but i love them all. >> what about you, jesse. when did you realize life was not fair? >> i thought i was hot stuff coming off the factor on to "the five" and i saw you greg with your huge salary and car

services. every time you whined, you got everything you wanted. that's when i realized life was not fair. >> [laughing]. >> okay. i realized life was not fair when i made my second 200 million dollars. my off-shore accounts i could not shovel the money there. >> that is so not fair. >> all right. it is not fair. one more question. who is your favorite person to follow on twitter? that's from wendy. jesse, who do you enjoy? it always makes me chuckle. >> you after too much wine. the president is pretty good. i don't really go on there that much, though. >> yeah. >> how about you? >> yes.

>> john legend is entertaining. his wife is nutty. >> she is beautiful. >> katie? >> i don't have a favorite. >> katie is beautiful. >> i don't have a go-to. thank you very much. i don't have a favorite, sorry. >> really? >> don't make me choose. twitter will cancel me. >> yes, that's true. martha, how about you? >> well, i like to follow pat ward in the d.c. bureau. he is funny and brit hume because he finds really good articles that he tweets outs. i like those guys. i will go with them. >> how about you? >> that's a good point. the only good thing twitter is good for is being a wisdom leach. somebody you follow likes brit hume or scott adams. people who post articles that

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all, on it this weekend to celebrate the life of john lewis and fox news will host a special this weekend to cover the remarkable american hero, and the processional will be held and one more time. >> bret: good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier, breaking today as schools come to the crucial decision about what will happen in just a few weeks. president's press secretary said today children should go back to school this fall even if future studies find that they are transmitting the coronavirus with a course proper mitigation efforts by the schools. the u.s. is still no approaching 150,000 deaths and yesterday clipping the 4 million cases mark in the world health organization rose by more than 9800 and the largest single day increase since late april. a number of cases rose by a