>> martha: for more if i my conversation with loopholes, go to the story.com. we will see you right back here on monday night at seven, i have a great weekend. if tucker is up next, good night. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." chicago is the third biggest city in the united states, millions of people live there. for 150 years, that was the hub of the manufacturing economy. if what any one place can claim to have built this country at chicago so we should care what happens there. unfortunately what is happening they are chicago, and thanks to the corruption of local officials chicago is bankrupt. the city is so deeply in debt, williams and billions, tens of billions of dollars in debt, that no economist believes it

can never pay its bills. taxpayers know this. they understand they will be punished for the crimes of their leaders. just this week so far, 106 people. there was one drive-by shooting. here's surveillance video of a gunman opening fire downtown. among many others murdered in chicago, including many children, this man's first grader for example was shot in the head. >> to see my daughter on the table with a gunshot wound to the fore head -- >> 7-year-old natalia wallace was shot in the head and killed over the weekend in chicago she played outside with her siblings. >> visualize the 7-year-old a

shot and bleeding to death while the families they are. >> also among the innocent victims, police a 14-year-old hernando jones was shot and killed by gang members on the fourth of july. >> tucker: it's awful. chicago wasn't always like this and if you are from there you know very well come chicago is is a beautiful place. for a lot of reasons it isn't anymore but on the top of that list, is a mere called lori lightfoot. you wouldn't let her play in your spring break, she would send youtube will haunt by accident. but what makes lori lightfoot unusual is a remarkably aggressive way that she lives. lightfoot says things that are so impossible they couldn't be part of the comedy routine and she's not joking. she expects you to believe every word of it. here she is, for example, blaming violence in chicago on, of all people, republicans. >> why are we engaged in such violence? because they are too many guns

on our streets. why is that so? the republican leadership for way too long including this president refuses to even have a conversation about common sense gun reform. >> tucker: it's e, it's a republicans fault that chicago is more dangerous than many third world countries. donald trump got 12% of the vote they are, of the 50 aldermen on chicago city council, right now, not a single one of them is republican. so, you might have a point. she's moved on to a new excuse. you know why all those children are getting murdered?

because of christopher columbus. yes, an italian navigator who never got within a thousand miles of the loop and who by the way died, he did it, it's columbus' fault. one in little italy and one in grant park and that will fix the problem. you have to let your kids go outside now. in case you are wondering why lightfoot chose a christopher columbus to blame, why not marco polo? not boaters or taxpayers, there was never any groundswell to christopher columbus and chicago. lightfoot's actual constituents wanted columbus taken down. they descended upon grant park to rip down the columbus statue.

[chanting] sweetman almost 50 police officers were injured in the riot that you just saw, but lori lightfoot didn't care, they aren't her voters. lightfoot cares about her base, the looters and destroyers. when they tell her, lori lightfoot acts immediately. the problem for the rest of them, the mobs will not stop with christopher columbus, he's just the beginning. if they can tear down statues whenever they feel like it, how long before they tear down buildings, how long before they tear down homes? how long before they tear down human beings? probably not for long.

violence rarely remains symbolic and accelerates of total good people rise up to stop it. if lori lightfoot and progressive mayors like her around the country, and there are many, are allowed to divert from her own behaviors find bowing to the mob and destroying public property, this will not end with christopher columbus. it will get much worse and more dangerous. until you are the next designated christopher columbus. todd watson has studied american cities for decades and he founded the woodson center and we are honored to have them on tonight. mr. woodson, thank you for coming on. i see a theme here and it's not just lori lightfoot. as the problems they face become more complex and harder to solve, their solutions seem to be more frivolous and disconnected from reality. have you noticed this? >> absolutely. what they are doing is falsely claiming that the failures of

the last 60 years and most urban centers all over the country have been run by liberal democrats, many of them veterans of the civil rights movement who moved from politics -- i mean from civil rights, to run these cities. they also had to spend about $22 trillion on poverty money in the cities and as a consequence, all of these inequities that they have been talking about have been done on their watch. as conditions and spending when fs conditions deteriorated, but they adjust the reality of what they do, and that's the responsibility for taking care of these problems. now the left is coming in and exploiting the disparity and using it to really decimate the country, and the collateral damage. they support blacks in the

cities because what the left is doing is vilifying the police as agents of a white supremacy and the more they are vilified, the less aggressive they are about enforcing laws and the more the murder rate rises. what low income blacks are facing, and treasonous behavior. that's the difference between a burglar who steals what's in your house and an embezzler who steals everything that you can relate over the lifetime. and what black america is being stolen, is there a history of how they resisted and overcame oppression, and that's being wiped away.

there were 739 black-owned businesses and there were 100 million in real estate assets at a time when segregation was the law. so you can't blame institutional racism or systematic racism, or the legacy of slavery for the failures. this has occurred precisely as civil rights leaders became leaders of the cities. >> tucker: it's oh lori lightfoot will tell you, and it's not just lori lightfoot by a mile, but she cares so deeply about the poorest people in her city. should we believe that? >> absolutely not. i believe tucker that the salvation of this country may sound odd and that will be the sleeping giant. when no income blacks wake up and realize that they are being bamboozled and hustled and scammed by people like lori lightfoot and others, they

are going to realize that they must adjust the enemy within, because the left derives this moral authority as being of legitimate representatives of the poor. a metaphor of that occurred in oregon when a black police officer was talking to two young black demonstrators and a white demonstrator interposed herself in between and santa, f the police. that's a metaphor for how whites are exploding exploiting that. there are is evidence of the sleeping giant, the low income leaders around the country are recognizing this as in washington. an 11-year-old boy was killed, tucker, on fourth of july and the people demonstrated internally and said, no justice, no sleep. they picketed and made noise until the killers were turned in. another group of the alliance of

concerned men in washington, d.c., it's gone now 65 days without a sickle, single violent incident because they adjust their problems by mobilizing the internal resources and the resilience, the self-determination of people inside, and so we have demonstrated that islands of peace can be created if you stop looking externally and start listening to the left and instead listening to the people and to give them the power to be agents of their own uplift and to stop these hustlers from exploiting them. like lori lightfoot. >> tucker: and it is about the power of the democratic party, that's all it's ever about. thank you. anthony fauci has demanded that you wear a mask. he wants you to back off from the people you know and love and he wants you to stop shaking

hands. not all of dr. fauci's advice comports with known science. he asked the president about anthony fauci. >> so every time he talks about the country, i don't like the aspect of that. >> that's okay, i'm the president so i will say i appreciate your opinion, now give me another opinion, somebody please. >> overruled. >> tucker: it's oh fox so dr. fa day off and throughout the first pitch of the nationals game in washington. but once dr. fauci thought he was off camera, the mask came off, literally. you want to see hypocrisy and action? look at this. here he is sitting within 6 feet of other people in a mostly in the stadium without wearing his

mask. he was immediately called on this but rather than copping to it and being honest, he acted like so many people empowered to do and scorned anyone criticizing him watch. >> i think this is sort of mischievous with this thing going around. i had my mask around my chain, i had taken it down, i was totally dehydrated end of his drinking water trying to rehydrate myself. and by the way i was negative covid literally the day before so i guess people want to make that thing about it, i wear a mask all the time when i'm outside, to pull it down to take some sips of water and put it back up again, i guess if people want to make something about that, they can >> tucker: if people want to make a thing of it, if people want to make a fetish of mask, lighten up america. i'm sorry, you are dr. anthony fauci and you are one of the reasons our economy has ground to a fault.

you are one of the reasons people are as unhappy as they have ever been. were you just lecturing us about why we are immoral if we didn't do it? we bet that dr. fauci won't have to pay the thousand dollar fine that the district of columbia is now imposing on citizens who don't wear masks in public. here is the mayor of washington, air quotes around that one, muriel bowser announcing the policy. watch. >> i am also today signing a new mayor's order on masks and basically what it says is, if you leave home, you should wear a mask. this means if you are waiting for a bus you must have on a mask. if you are ordering food at a restaurant, you must have on a mask. if you are sitting in a cubicle in an open office, you must have on a mask. >> tucker: until the day joe biden wins the presidential election, you, mr. and mrs. america, must wear

masks. unless you are the people who wrote the mask ordinance in d.c., the politicians, they exempted themselves. oh, because they have suspended the rules of science because they are in power and you are not. so shut up and obey untold biden wins. that's the rule. mask for the but not for me. well, a secretive pentagon unit that has been studying unidentified flying objects for decades is now divulging some of the secrets. it turns out some of them are a big deal. a retired naval aviator who has seen unidentified flying objects joins us now. hike!

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>> tucker: much of the media have mocked the existence of unidentified flying objects and the u.s. pentagon has been studying this subject for quite a long time. apparently they will soon release some of their findings which will remain classified. according to a new report in the u.s"the new york times," the u.. may have vehicles that were "not

made on this earth." they have also released footage of ufo sightings including a 2004 encounter recorded from an advanced navy fighter jet. commander david freighter is a retired naval aviator who wants something he could not explain in science can't explain and we are honored to have them on tonight. thanks so much for coming on. so tell us if you think this is being misinterpreted. according to the u.s new "new york times," the u.s. has some evidence of some sort of evil not meet on this earth, is that what it sounds like? >> it sounds like that to me. i never want to speculate what the government truly has but i would say there is stuff out there. the four of us that chased the tic tac in 2004 have attested multiple times that what we saw exceeded anything that we had in our inventory and was far superior to the airplanes that we had at the time. so i would say yes, there's

something out there and hopefully the government does have stuff. >> tucker: it's we spoke before about this and you suggested the object that you saw that you taste, the tic tac, behaved in ways that challenge your understanding of aeronautics and physics and you didn't think it was likely that that object belongs to a foreign military. do you think the u.s. government has concluded that this is not russia, china or some of the country? >> i'm pretty sure of that. just by some of the phone calls that we have gotten, some of the people we have talked to in the government, they are unaware of what this is and i think that ties directly with the east coast citing, with the gimbal video, and i would be willing to say, because i'm in contact with a lot of these people, there are more incidents that are starting to come out and people are starting to report inside of the government channels, the things that we are seeing. i think you're seeing it from the past because it always had that taboo, you are not finding people from the past is that i

saw this. and when i did i was told not to say anything. so i think since 2017 the world is starting to change, because of lack of publicity and because of the attention in the senate and the congress. because of people like marco rubio and the intel committee, and the government does have stuff, and that, and where is that all that. just by odds, something would be here. >> so that raises the question why the secrecy? clearly the u.s. government has lied for the public for maybe 73 years, why do you think? >> the other one primarily was

sent out to prove that it wasn't board to make excuses of why it wasn't. if something lands in your front yard it there's no reason to deny it existed order for the government and then why would you hide it. why wasn't it thoroughly investigated at the time for something that literally could penetrate, and nothing was done until about 2009. >> tucker: it there's a story here that a lot of us can't wait to see. finally, do you feel vindicated? >> i never -- if you could say that but most of the fellow aviators that know the group of us, we were never like chastise or, you get ripped but it was

never like you were crazy or anything like that. people take you seriously by definition. >> i try to be very believable for you. >> tucker: and you are, we appreciate that. annette and other amazing and heartening news, a quarter million dollar lawsuit was brought by a teenager they slandered and attacked. an amazing story, one of the wins for decency lately. we will bring it in all its details after the break. ♪ - i didn't know why my body was moving on its own.

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>> tucker: every day a small group of highly privileged people seem to get more powerful and increased to crack down on the country, but occasionally

there are reversals of fortune that we want to call attention to. today was a day like that, "the washington post" settled a quarter billion dollar definition suit brought by nicholas sandmann. and it sounded like he was harassing an american indian. in fact the full video showed the exact opposite of that. we reached out to "washington post" today, and we asked them to come on and explained "the washington post" role, and he was of course to cowardly to do that. here was don lemon on cnn describing the encounter. >> they carry a certain connotation that provokes a conditioned reaction from a lot of people.

>> international tv star of don lemon wants you to know that if someone disagrees with his politics you are allowed to harass them. maybe even beat them up, who knows. cnn sued for that, too and settled a million-dollar case earlier this year. but it would be a mistake to say that was just "the washington post" or cnn, it was in bc, too. >> do you feel from this experience that you owe anybody an apology? do you see your own fault? have you thought about that from other perspectives, in other words there were a lot of you, a handful of the others? every single day these people bully americans, ill let them come berate them, attacked them and force them from their jobs.

the countries are cowering in silence thanks to things like this but occasionally someone fights back. but more occasionally, someone fight back and wins. and it so we thought it would be worth having them in tonight. so what's your reaction to this since you've been on this since first day? >> i am really glad that there has been recognition and that they did get it wrong. i'm glad he's getting a measure of justice. i'm not confident this message will be received, but this could be the message to others in the media and it would have been to

be at a clip. and it was a race to smear someone, that's wrong, that goes against norms of journalism to seek the full story. so to consider the newsworthiness, there was no reason to do this story so i want that to set in, you don't always need to do a story about someone wore a bad halloween costume or a sent a homophobic tweet. the other -- the drive to cancel or smear or attack normal regular people who aren't famous or important, and that really needs to change, so i hope this could be a step in that direction. i'm not confident that it will be. >> tucker: i hope it is. here is the richest man in the

world, jeff bezos, his personal newspaper attacking high school kids for what? robbie, great to see you, thank you. we should say that neither "the washington post" nor cnn. he joins us tonight. jason, you've been in journalism for a long time so you know the power of it, you can really hurt people and a lot of the time that's fine. but shouldn't these organizations be careful before training the bazooka on them? >> we are supposed to be the voice of the marginalized and the week. that fits the profile more than a 17-year-old high school student, but i think as you alluded to early on, this is all

about donald trump. we have justified in the media anything that is against trump is a positive. and the ends justify the means. it's a misuse and misunderstanding are just outright lying to the public. the president of the united states just doesn't have the power that we keep ascribing to. the judicial branch can limit the president. this is a guy who could rule for four years maybe or eight years of the most, and then he's done. he can only do what our legislative branch does and it's

crazy. and that's the country understanding how we operate. >> tucker: i think you have the right to give the finger to the people in power, and as you noted you would think somewhere along the line, there's a difference between a politician in this case, trump, and the people who voted for them. but they don't, no one says th that. >> also, the ends don't justify the means when you are a journalist. we are held to a higher standard and we've been having the conversation in america the last ten years or seven years. and we take an unstated both.

we are intentionally misleading the public. president trump, president oba president obama, and if we are cuba, and they think they are going to just take over and trump will be this totalitarian that runs a country down. no, he's not. for years or eight years, it's a short time and we have survived so much worse, if you consider. let's take their argument that trump is the worst thing that ever happened to the presidency. this country has survived slavery and this country has survived the civil war, and we survive -- the limits of rights, we can survive for her eight

years of the president that antifa doesn't like or the media doesn't like. they are whipping us into a frenzy and have whipped all of us into a frenzy. if we don't destroy trump, are you kidding me? >> tucker: nicely put as always. so california and new york, whatever you think of the states, do have some of the best restaurants in the world. now those states are terrorizing restaurant owners who are trying to reopen. we have details on that. plus dr. marc siegel interviewed the president the other day. but perhaps no one is more entranced than the fashion industry and we will explain why, just ahead.

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>> tucker: earlier this week, we sent our doctor, dr. marc siegel to interview the president at the white house. he is typically against viruses,

that's his job, but the interview itself went viral. it's now shaping the american fashion industry. and here's proof. >> president trump: there is 30 or 35 questions. at the first questions are very easy in the last questions are much more difficult, like a memory question. it's like you go person, woman, man, camera, tv. so they say, could you repeat that? and i say, yes. so it's person, woman, man, camera, tv. okay, that's very good. we have to have somebody that's sharp. if this person isn't sharp, because i can tell you that president xi is sharp. a president sharp. you don't have nonsharp people that you are dealing with. >> tucker: a person woman man camera tv, repeat after us. you'll be able to because soon

those five words will be everywhere. t-shirts, baby clothing, hoodies, totes, mugs, face mas face masks. and that's a pet rock of 2020 and were honored to have him on, dr. great to see you tonight. >> tucker, great to see you. if you think i'm a celebrity i actually waited in line to have a tire fixed today. and last week when we went trout fishing, i don't think the fish said, there is tucker carlson's hook, or avoided going towards it. but what was special as being in the white house was special. and we were given mass, and during the interview itself, and why didn't you interrupt him on the cognitive question?

while i was brought up not to interrupt people. i would do that for any president and any party, any world leader, i don't believe in interrupting. >> tucker: let me enter it interrupt you for the first time ever, it's a way to hear them talk. if you are interview for some it's so true. that was probably something from the montreal cognitive assessment tests where you draw a clock and you draw a cube and then they ask you to identify an animal. as you pointed out last night some anchors on tv can't get the animal rights. then he talked about word choices and how he remembered them. and i thought this is it teaching moment. this is a discussion of cognition, and can they still be

a shift or a surgeon. instead, we got back to the usual political quagmire, we had late-night comedians mocking you and that we have shirts. i felt that political division ruled and come how you assess cognition and function for the elderly is really important. so i have a prescription for america this weekend. for once, let's not attack each other for the weekend based on their positions and trying to destroy each other. i show me at the white house, respect and kindness, tucker. thank you very much for that. >> tucker: at "the drudge" report was for decades a

mainstay of conservative media. it has changed dramatically, so what happened exactly? a biographer biographer joins us after the break

>> tucker: states all of a sudden have an awful lot of power that they didn't used to have thanks to the coronavirus. in california authorities are using those powers to police restaurant menus which seems like wise use of the time. she sticks, calamari and chicken wings no longer constitute dinner options according to authorities in the state of california. in new york you can't merely have a bag of chips with your beer, they don't think that's good enough. fox news cheap breaking news correspondent jake trace gallagher has all the details on the story. >> tucker, and california you can't drink at a restaurant without eating but you have to eat with the state says as of may. meal. for example fried cheese sticks and calamari checks in at about

2,000 calories which is not a meal. a 500-calorie salad is a meal. chicken breast, yes. chicken wings, no. tacos, yes, rolled tacos no. pizza bites, potstickers are also noncompliant and multiple courses are not required to constitute a meal in order for the patron to be served a meal there should be a sufficient quantity that it would constitute a main course. wow in a multiple course dining experience. if you think california is bizarre, try new york. listen. >> you have to have food available. soups, sandwiches, et cetera. more than just hors d'oeuvres and chicken wings, we have to have some substantive food. >> so a beer and a bowl of soup will keep you sober. last week bars in new york

started serving cuomo chips, and a spokesperson said the chips to comply with the food requirement and now chips are out and bar owners feel like they are being unfairly singled out. for decades, this is one of the most influential figures in conservative journalism and is subtitled drudge report broke news and set priorities and digital media. that made wooing the famously secretive drudge a high priority on for several of them including donald trump, it paid off big. it's 180 degrees. that has begun to fill the void he has left. but the question remains, what

happened to matt drudge? it's a very interesting story and tonight we are joined by one of the few people who may be able to sell it. he joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. you have done what reporters talked about for 20 years of doing which is the right to defend the biography of matt drudge. you are in a position to at least guess, why has he changed so dramatically? >> one of the things people have is they try looking at him in a political sphere. for example, this great part of my book where in 2008, andrew

breitbart, and that is coverage. barack obama tendency might be terrible for the country but, to the larger extent, matt was right because i can't think of a more than a handful of people who did better under the obama then that drought. his net wealth has been estimated at over $100 million. so i hear all this chatter about why matt has his political stance and i think it's more about his bottom line than anything else. and however this situation works out is debatable.

>> tucker: yes. it's a remarkable change. so earlier in this administration he had become close to the president's son-in-law jared kushner. are they so close, do you know? unfortunately we have lost the shot for matthew likes it's a very interesting story. we told you about "the washington post" which is a quarter billion dollars suit and we speak to someone about "the washington post." this is a character called eric one pal who covers media there and covers for the owner of the paper, the world's richest man, jeff bezos. this is one of our favorite pictures ever. we want to reiterate our

invitation to mr. one pal. if you want to ever want to defend your newspaper or your own or if there is always room for you on our site. we are out of time tonight unfortunately but we hope you have the best weekend with the ones you love. that's always the payoff, see you monday. ♪ >> welcome to the special edition of "hannity," the road at 22020, just 102 days left to election night. i'm jason chaffetz and tonight for sean and in the hour we will tell you how the democratic party to plans to radically transform this country into a far left utopia. we start in portland, oregon, where city leaders hate trump so much that they are willing to let their own city burn in order to prove just how woke they really are. theoran