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them inside. jed over to you. jedediah: just call me and then i'll play that tape for everyone so everyone have a happy saturday. we'll see you back here tomorrow griff: that's right have a safe and wonderful saturday and tune in right here for the life and celebration for john lewis. pete: see you guys tomorrow. david: fox on top of officials on alert. seattle bracing for protests later today after more unrest unfolding in portland, oregon. portland mayor ted wheeler doesn't want the president's help in his city. meet the governor of another state who welcomes that help. >> plus the race to reopen the nation with just over 100 days until the election. is it the violence or the virus that has voters attention? all this as family and friends of congressman john lewis gather in his hometown of troy, alabama to honor and remember the civil rights hero. we will talk to martin luther
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king iii about all this that's coming up. >> welcome everyone i'm david asman, in for neil cavuto. you are watching cavuto live, we begin with the chaos overnight in portland, and the city of seattle, now bracing for another night of protest. fox's david spunt has more from bridgewater, new jersey where the president is watching all of this very closely. david? reporter: david, good morning to you. president trump and other white house officials certainly watching this closely. president trump pitching himself to the american people some in decided voters hopefully he wants to switch as the law and order president that's the sales pitch he's making to the american people as cities like portland are seeing almost 60 nights of unrest in a row. now, we are talking specifically , david, of three officers who may lose their sight. federal officers permanently after protesters pointed lasers in the eyes of those officers and the white house says another agent was impaled his hand by
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nails on wednesday president trump and attorney general bill barr announced the expansion of operation legend and the operation named after four- year-old legend talifero, was shot and killed while sleeping in his home in kansas city last month. police are still looking for his killer operation legend sends federal agents, there he is right there, to unrest hotspots across the country to protect federal property. >> the federal government has a sworn duty to uphold the law of the united states through field offices and federal facilities across the country, these agents protect and serve the american people, yet the rhetoric of the left undermines our justice system with nancy pelosi calling them storm trooper, jim clyburn calling them the gas toppo, and wheeler using the term " paramilitary forces." >> white house secretary is talking about ted wheeler the mayor of portland wants
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those federal forces to leave to get out as soon as possible, meanwhile the district attorney in philadelphia, larry krasner, now there are no federal troops in philadelphia, federal forces in philadelphia, david, but da krasner says federal forces come to his city and act unlawfully, not only will they be arrested he would charge them which be a force between local authorities and federal authorities, if that would happen in a city like philadelphia. david? david: i wish we were all pulling in the same direction, david thank you very much. well several leaders telling president trump we don't want your help when it comes to calm ing the chaos in their cities but we have a governor on who welcomes it. republican missouri governor mike parson joining us now. governor great to see you thank you very much for being here. as you heard, democratic critics claim that federal agents are going way beyond just protecting buildings that they're roaming the streets, arresting people without warrant for that.
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nancy pelosi as you heard actually calling some of these federal agents storm troopers which is a very ugly reference to nazi germany. what do you make of all of this? >> well first of all i don't value anything nancy pelosi says because she sure doesn't have the opinion of what i believe the american people and somebody that serves in the military for two tours of duty and been in law enforcement for 22 years and governor of a state now look if you don't have law and order in this country we're going to lose these battles real quick and what we're seeing going on in portland is just a shame for our whole country, and no matter what segment you live in, this is not who we are. we're a country of law and order , and if we don't uphold the men and women that serve that, and our law abiding citizens we're not protecting them, we're losing the battle and we got to step it up so i appreciate what the president is doing about sending reinforcement in because it's quite evident they need help. david: but what do you do with a city like portland whose mayor
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actually seems to be siding with people who have the federal court house in their sights for destruction. how do you deal with that? he is the duly-elected mayor of that city, a big beautiful city in the united states but that is turning into a hell hole as a result of a lot of this rioting. >> well number one, mayors don't own the cities, they don't own the federal buildings and the state buildings that are in there and those public buildings belong to the people, not them personally, and you should do everything in the world to protect that and if they're not going to do that when the president comes in and says he's going to put people on the ground to do that that's exactly what should happen and i think if you don't utilize all the resources you got, we're kidding ourselves. these are not simple protests. these are criminal acts what you're seeing today and when federal officers whether federal or state or whether local, start going to the hospital los ing their sight, broken knees , these are not normal protests as people know it.
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david: well forgive me for interrupting, governor but vice president biden continues to call what's happening in portland peaceful protests. what would you tell him? >> well he needs to get in touch with reality i would say to see what's going on and you'll soon find out anybody with any common sense knows these are violent protests going on people are getting hurt every day, properties are getting destroyed and again, with everything else going on in our country right now, you're just totally maxing out police departments and then you're letting violent criminals run loose on the streets which is another problem to what we're dealing with with protests. david: earlier this week, governor, i had acting deputy secretary ken cuccinelli on and i asked him about the importance of working with local authorities. here is what he said. >> we count on those partnerships, where those partnerships exist we don't have to expand our officer s on the ground, because we achieve more working together but you have a mayor and a political leadership in portland
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that blocks their law enforcement officers from working together with us, so they make all of us less efficient, and they make their communities less safe, all on purpose which is just mind boggling. david: so say you were president, governor, a position you may not want at the moment, but if you were, what would you do with portland? >> you know what? i be sending in whatever it takes to settle that city down to protect the every day people there that want protection because i'm going to say the majority of portland, i don't live there but i'm going to say there's a lot of good people in there scared to death trying to figure out what to do. you've got to protect those people and they have every right to be protected and as the president i be trying to figure out ways to protect them with whatever means i had. david: let me talk about another couple that was trying to protect themselves in your state, in st. louis. i'm talking about the mcclosky's whose property was invaded by protesters, not only the communal property that they were a part of but their own
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particular property was threaten ed. they came out with firearms. the husband had a long gun, his wife had a pistol, and now they are being charged with a felony count by a prosecutor in your state. now i know you say you're going to pardon them if it needs to come to that, but why is it that you have a prosecutor in your state letting the law breakers go and charging the victims with a felony? >> yeah well it's unfortunate that somebody when you get elected officials, you know, under our constitution, they are fairly well protected to that job but what they do, but this is a job that what she's doing right now is beyond any oath of office what she's doing. we've had 138 homicides in st. louis. 138 already this year. 30 cases have been filed. so that means there's over 100 cases of people out there, victims, family members of homicides that are waiting for
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some sort of justice, and yet we're charging law abiding citizens more to become a political stunt, in this country , for doing exactly what they have every right to do under the second amendment and the castle doctrine so it's just upside down and it's just somebody that's not doing a good job they are incompetent what they're doing and not doing what the they took an oath to do and it's unfortunate that sometimes you wish you could remove them but the reality is i can't do the constitution but we're working every day to see how to deal with it. david: governor mike parson, pleasure to talk to you sir thank you very much appreciate you coming in. thank you very much appreciate it. david: my next guest says critics are playing politics when it comes to president trump 's use of federal law officers to protect cities former assistant u.s. attorney andy mccarthy joining me now. great to see you. there's been a lot of miss reporting first of all on what's going on and what the constitution allows or doesn't allow, so let's stick with what we know. what do the federal authorities have the right to do in a place
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like portland? >> well they have a right first and foremost, david, to protect federal installations and personnel. it's sad that it's underreported that what's going on in portland is actually the firebombing of a federal facility. i press prosecuted terrorists in the 1990s for conspiring to make war against the united states and this is an important part of the statute to oppose the authority of the united states by force. that's a serious crime, people ought to be prosecuted for it. david: of course some people were saying that the federal agents stimulated the acts of violence. that's actually not true, the acts of violence, the firebombing happened before federal agents were sent in. correct? >> david, sure, yes it's not true but let's play pretend. what if it were true? they're firebombing a building that has people in it. regardless of who you want to say escalated how do you
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possibly justify that? david: there's another charge that they went around with unmarked uniforms. in fact that appears not to be true at least according to pen c uccinelli. he said the uniforms were remarked and the name tags were removed to protect agents by some of the violent protesters what do you think about that? >> here is the late breaking news when we infiltrated maffia families for example, in the 80s they didn't wear their fbi t-shirts when they were doing that you know? the agents don't have to identify themselves when they're in a peacetime policing situation, they should be garbed in uniform if they're on patrol but if carrying out undercover operations which they are entitled to do and which they must do in particular when under siege and when they're being both assaulted and
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interfered with when trying to carry out peacemaking duties and then they are allowed to and if doing their duties as a practical matter they have to be undercover to some degree. david: final point that's been disputed the question of whether arrests were made beyond the perimeter of the federal building. do they have any right to go beyond that? >> yeah, of course they do. look, there's a big misconception, david, that the federal authorities have to be, if they are law enforcement, now let's put the military aside , because like several weeks ago we were arguing about whether the president could dispatch military assets to restore order. if we're talking about enforcing federal law, the federal government does not need permission from the state authority to come in and enforce the statutes enacted by congress indeed the president's constitutional duty is to take care that the laws be faithfully
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executed so if somebody is committing a federal crime beyond the perimeter of a federal building, of course they can be arrested. david: andy i only have 15 seconds i have to give you a chance to respond to this. nancy pelosi calling federal agents "storm troopers." you were a u.s. marshall. what do you make of her insult to federal agents? >> well you know it's a disgrace. you're talking about people who were the guardians of totalitarian regimes to compare federal law enforcement officers who are putting their lives on the line to enforce the laws enacted by congress, which you know nancy pelosi is a fairly important member of, is i think it's despicable demagogery. david: andrew mccarthy thank you for your service, good to talk to you. well the cdc urging schools to open back up but if the virus is out of control in the area to shut it back down. so what is florida planning to do? the state's republican lt. governor jeanette nunez on that
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david: well florida is facing tough decisions as it sees a speak in coronavirus cases and deaths so while president trump is shutting down the gop convention in jacksonville next month, will schools be ready to open back up? florida republican lt. governor jeantte nunez joining us now lt. governor thank you very much for being here first of all a general idea of what's happening in florida. i know a couple of days ago you had your highest daily grim milestone it was for covid but other people are seeing a slight dropoff. what is the very latest on the infection in your state? >> well good morning, david thanks for the opportunity to be on your show and so you've pointed out correctly that we had our highest death count. we've been watching and monitor ing very closely obviously concerned with the prevalence of cases here in florida but what we are seeing is glimmers of hope, what we're
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seeing is a reduction in what we call the rt value, the rate of transmission, we're seeing a reduction in covid-like cases presenting at the emergency room so all of those data points are something that we feel has florida going in the right direction. we understand that there is still a large amount of cases but we do feel like very soon in the next couple weeks we'll be able to see not only the tapering but the reduction, and hopefully florida will get back on track. david: and the hospitals there, they are not at overcapacity right now. you have enough icu's available et cetera? >> yes, absolutely. we communicate on a daily basis governor desantis has been working very closely with hospitals in each county in particular those counties which are hardest hit making sure that they not only have the capacity but also the staffing and so governor desantis worked with them, sent over 1,000 nurses, has the ability to send several hundred more to assist with staffing and again we recognize situations have been very tenuous but we have been working
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around the clock to make sure that hospitals have not only the capacity, the ppe and staffing that they need to be able to handle it. david: well i don't have to tell you that americans want to get back to normal if possible, safely, but they do want to get back to normal to go to work , to go to school, and your school union, the florida teacher's association has sued you, because they don't think we're ready to open up, or you were ready in florida specifically to open up. i talked to the head of that union earlier this week here is what he said about what he is looking for as an indication of when it might be safe to open. roll tape. >> we've got to get control of this virus. we've got to see some kind of decline and offer our teachers p pe and deal with the infrastructure with our school system that are built for social interaction and not social distancing. david: but we have to see some kind of decline. that's pretty vague. can you be more specific? what specifically, what numbers are you looking at that would make you feel satisfied to
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reopen? >> absolutely. well the federal government and the cdc says they would like to see a 14 day decline, and so that's what we're sticking to. david: okay, so lt. governor, how close are you to that 14 day decline that mr. ingraham was talking about? >> well of course when you have a union that only likes the politics, that is something that we have been looking at very closely, and look governor desantis made it clear, school districts in each county you have 67 counties in florida. many of which have different circumstances and so those districts will make the decision that is not only for students, not only for parents but also for teacher s, in areas where there is high prevalence of the virus. obviously there is going to be a different decision made and so governor desantis not only has worked collaboratively with those districts, but he's also made it clear. there is no better place and i think everyone agrees maybe not the union but i think everyone agrees there's no better place to educate our children than
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into schools. that being said we want to give our parents options and so many school districts have gone through the process of putting together plans, making sure that they can accommodate students, many students who cannot learn virtually. we have students with special needs we have english language learners, there are a lot of circumstances in states like florida you have to take into account. david: finally just to put a fine point on it the governor will not be making a state-wide order concerning opening of the schools, he's leaving it up to the localities, correct? >> the governor has talked about flexibility and parental choice and so that's something that he's shown tremendous courage and dedication working on this virus in every aspect, collaborating locally so he's going to continue to do that and continue to ensure that parents have options because at the end, as a mother of three i can tell you know one is better equipped to make decisions for your child than those parents. david: jeantte nunez, lt.
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governor of the great state of florida thank you very much for being here meanwhile texas residents bracing for hurricane hawaii as it begins to hit we have the latest and the conventions are off but the countdown is on with 101 days until the election what issues matter most to voters we'll be right back. usaa is made for what's next no matter what challenges life throws at you, we're always here to help with fast response and great service and it doesn't stop there we're also here to help look ahead that's why we're helping members catch up by spreading any missed usaa insurance payments over the next twelve months so you can keep more cash in your pockets for when it matters most and that's just one of the many ways we're here to help the military community find out more at usaa.com
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david: well ladies and gentlemen, the countdown is on. we are 101 days away from the 2020 election. key issues of course are emerging but the virus is at the top of the list by far. is that a problem for the president? the gop polster lee carter who joins us now, lee, i think that it's fair to say that public safety is now issue number one. it's the virus, street violence, crime, et cetera. it all fits under the rubric of
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public safety. no? >> yeah, i think the number one issue to voters right now could be defined as safety and security and that plays into exactly what you're describing and i think that also plays into financial security, and that's a little bit more than the economy that's more about do i feel safe and secure in my job, in my life , and where i'm going in those ways. now what happens when you look at those issues under need safety it's split between biden and president trump. when you think about law enforcement your personal safety , most people will say that trump is spinning on that front. when you think about covid itself, however, most voters will tell you that biden is who they would prefer to be in charge and we think about financial security and the economy, trump it is the one issue that he really leads over biden on and so when it comes down to it, when people think about whose going to make me feel more safe and secure in my day-to-day life, that's really what this election is going to come down to.
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david: now let's talk about the economy for a second, because so far, we've had these huge federal spending programs that have kind of cushioned the blow from the virus and from the lockdowns resulting from the virus. trillions of dollars have been spent. we have unemployment insurance that sometimes pays more than what people were getting for their regular jobs. that can't continue forever, but it will continue through the election, so does that put the economy, does that one reason why the economy is less of an issue right now? >> i think it is frankly. i think that we haven't fully felt the economic impact of what we've just been through and what we're going to continue going through in the coming months because of that and i also think that we haven't fully absorbed not just the impact of stimulus that's out there, but also, it's going to take a little bit of time for us to feel the changes that are happening and lasting as a result of this because it's not just about businesses closing or businesses not being
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able to take the hit for all of this. i think we're all learning things about the virtual world, what's going to happen to business travel and what's going to happen to travel and commercial office space not just because of the economy, but also because companies are innovating and changing and individuals are learning and some of those things are going to endure so i think we're going to see a very different world after this and we'll have to make sure there are jobs and a place for people on the other side of this. david: finally, lee and we only have about 30 seconds the issue about whether people feel comfortable telling polsters about how they really feel about things. this is a culture that has very hard penalties for any suspicion that you're politically incorrect. does that make polling more difficult now? >> there's no question about it 62% of americans are saying that they are uncomfortable sharing some of their political opinions , and that makes it very difficult for polsters to go on straight traditional polling. we have to go and find other ways of understanding how people are responding more emotionally,
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you have to go issue-by-issue and you have to look at questions underneath it and you also need to look at how strong support is. when you look at joe biden, one- third of voters are saying they are voting for joe biden. two-thirds are saying they are voting against donald trump. you have to look at signals like that that show how enthusiastic support is and that's going to help understand what's really going to happen. david: lee carter great to see you. >> great to see you. david: well hurricane hanna is hitting and now texas residents are bracing a live report is coming up.
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david: well the texas gulf coast is bracing for the center of the newly-upgraded hurricane hanna to make landfall fox's chief meteorologist rick reichmuth is here with the very latest. hi, rick. rick: hey, dave. can you believe we are here very early in hurricane season and this is our eighth-named storm already of the season. this is a map that shows exactly generally when we see the majority of activity and you see that is really kind of when you get in towards maybe the second week of august is when things start to get going, all the way through early october. we are not anywhere near that, and we're already way seeing so much activity so this is hanna upgraded to a hurricane as you said just at 8:00. center of the storm around 70 miles or so off the coast moving off towards the west eventually making a little bit of a southwest jog it looks like time will come on shore as a hurricane in the next few hours probably by the early afternoon and somewhere around south padre
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island, somewhere on the island, it's a barrier island and there's plenty of hotels and such but once you go just to the other side of that, there's a lot of population that's going to have some pretty big impacts from this and mostly that is really significant rainfall totals, some of those totals are probably going to be maybe some spots up towards 15 inches of rain a lot of areas in the 7-10 inches of rain and i'm worried that's going to cause flooding. flooding is the biggest story along the rio grande river valley that exists in towards the gulf but this will move pretty quickly should be done by tomorrow afternoon, but a lot of rain to be had from this storm and again, david, here we are in our eighth storm we have a lot of hurricane season ahead. this is also by the way a covid hotspot across parts of south texas, so folks have to deal with that in addition to the storm. david: that is tough to deal with both of those things at the same time. whenever i see a storm in that area, rick, i always think of katrina and worry about new orleans sitting there it looks like that's where the storm is
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going. do the folks in new orleans have to worry? >> not at all. not at all. no worries once you get say to the north of corpus cristi, houston you'll be fine a few showers but everything is really isolated towards that south texas area, louisiana, new orleans absolutely fine. david: rick reichmuth, great to see you have a great weekend appreciate it. rick: you too. david: well the cdc releasing new guidelines for reopening schools so how do we keep kids safe in the classroom? a top doctor is here to tell us, coming next.
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david: the cdc releasing new guidelines for reopening schools saying it's critically important for our public health to get kids back in school this fall. joining me now is critical care doctor at the big ham women's hospital, dr. danielle llamas. good to see you doctor thank you for being here. what do you make of these new
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cdc guidelines? >> yeah, so i think we're viewing the cdc guidelines in a very helpful way. first, layout the immense importance of having in-school education for education and learning but also for social growth and to try not to further the inequities that already have existed as a result of this virus. kids who don't have as much access to time with their parent s to computers at home. it's important for all of these kids to be in school and at the same time the cdc laid out some guidelines of how to do this safely, distancing, masking when it's available for children are old enough to be able to understand to keep these on, and made the point that doing this , while our goal is in-person education as much as possible in the fall, if local areas have significant transmission we have to be able to reassess and i think this is going to require us to do this safely to set up
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the structure of a goal structure and also multiple plan box and plan c that we're going to be able to readjust as the situation changes. david: that's the thing readjustment and being light on our feet, being willing to change plans at the moment that there is a spike. the cdc was very clear about that. you have a big red button that you're ready to slam down, if things get out of control but just a lot of people say you have to put this in perspective. we don't want unreasonable risks on the other hand, life has risks that we can't avoid. 37 kids under the age of 15 have died of covid in the united states, and of course that's a tragedy, but 190 kids die from the flu every year, and we don't shut down the whole school system for that. so is 37, that number, compared to 190 that we don't shutdown the school with an acceptable risk? >> you know, those numbers are real and i think we can say that it's unacceptable risk if we don't take all of the sort of
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parameters that we month can mitigate this risk if we allow people to be in close proximity all clustered together and then somebody gets sick, and i don't think we can say we did everything right. you know, i think the issue is not only kids getting sick from this. it's kids bringing back to their family and community and for that, we don't have great data yet. the data that exists suggests that kids from babies to age 10 really do transmit coronavirus at rates that are lower than adults but after age 10 sort of 10-18, it becomes similar to the transmission of adults and so i think we're going to have to think of this too as not a one-size-fits-all but possibly, these rules will be different and the adjustment and readjust ment will be different for elementary or high school children moving forward as well. david: and we know it can be done doctor we only have about 20 seconds but the bottom line is europe and asia have shown us that it can be done, even in areas where there's still some
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risk of covid. >> entirely true. it can be done but we need to as you said, be able to readjust and be able to rethink based on the realities that shift. david: dr. llamas great to see you thank you for being here appreciate it. well we'll make a big switch and talk about baseball. it is back after delayed start due to the covid-19 pandemic and for many americans, seeing players back in the diamond is just the lift they need during these trying times. my next guest played a big role inspiring a lot of new yorkers 20 years ago, hitting a very famous game-winning home run for the mets in the city's first baseball game after 9/11. joining me now is major league baseball hall of famer, mike pia tza. what a pleasure talking to you, mike thank you very much for being here. you know our stage manager, eli, happened to be at that game right after 9/11. he missed the action on the field because he was down below, but the whole stadium shook as a result of the
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cheering for your home run. it's that excitement of what happens in a stadium that we don't have right now that some people are saying takes a little bit of the appreciation out of the game of baseball. what do you think? >> well, keep in mind with all the , with the pandemic and the lockdown, and coming out of it in this way that i think it is important that we do have to have incremental steps to get the fans back in the stadium , because ultimately we play for the fans, the fans are the ultimate driver for the game and so i think it is important. i think number one it's so great to see the guys playing again. david: it sure is. >> but ultimately, this , we hope it's the stoiters step for getting the fans back into the stadium but it's a good sign david: does it affect the
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players not having them in the stands? by the way from a visual perspective i think it helps a lot what they're doing with the visual stands et cetera and the sounds are there and that does give us the sense watching from our tvs of watching a real game but do the players miss the people in the stands? do they miss that vibe? >> absolutely. i thought it was really cool and fun to watch the players generate their own energy because the first response you get is from your teammates. the high fives and the excitement of performing but you do feed off the fans. i mean, that is what we are. we are performers in a way and when you don't have an audience it's kind of like dress rehearsal, or an audition or however you want to relate it to an actor, because we are performers. we love to make people cheer. that's what we do, so as much as
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it's exciting and i was so thrilled to see the guys back on the field and i was following social media and the fans were really pumped about it, but our ultimate step is to get the people back in the stands and enjoying the game david: there's one position that i bet appreciates not having fans is the pitchers. it gives them a chance, particularly if you're not with the home team, there's so many people that try to spook the pitchers to drop the ball or throw a bad ball. they don't have to worry that now. >> yeah but that's part of the fun. that's what we thrive on. for me there was nothing better than getting boo'd at yankee stadium, i thought it was a sign of respect and it was a sign of, you know it's like i said. we're all performers and you got to enjoy tax i mean, i loved getting boo'd at times. i didn't enjoy it when i struck out or made an out in a big situation by my home fans that's the thing i think you're talking about but i think it is, you know, and this day and age, i think any positive sign is something we should bank on and
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enjoy, so but ultimately the people want to get back out there, so we're praying and hoping this situation gets turned around and get a vaccine and people can enjoy their lives again. david: mike we're looking at players taking a knee before the national anthem. are you okay with things getting a little political? we should mention the players did rise for the national anthem itself so this was kind of a knee taking before that happened not everybody i think one or two players decided to stand through the whole thing say they only kneel for god, but what do you think about that? is it too much politics in baseball now? >> i agree with you a little bit. i think sports was always that last part of separate politics and when i was young they always say don't get involved in politics because you'll alienate half your fans and i think look, i also believe in freedom and i believe that if i don't want to stand i don't want to stand if people want to kneel they can kneel and you will suffer the criticisms that come with
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that. i personally believe in standing for the national anthem, that's the way i was taught and that's what i believe. if you want to kneel for the cause, and you have the freedom to do that but i also believe again that it's about freedom and if guys want to do that, fine. it's something but it's just something i'm responsible for myself. david: understood, mike last question. are players a little nervous about catching the virus? >> i didn't hear anything about that myself. i think look, it's something we have to live with. i think we have to take these precautions but you know, to me if you're scared and you're going to hide in a closet then you're scared to live as well. i think we have to go out and i hope we can get back to normal life as soon as possible is what i'm praying for. david: mike piazza, you're a great player and a great man and a credit to the city of new york and the game of baseball and it's a pleasure to talk to you just pure and simple. >> thank you. god bless and have a good day. david: mike piazza thank you very much.
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david: china's houston consolate is now under u.s. control after a tumultuous week that saw washington order the consolate closed and in response china closed the u.s. consolate inchengdu china. joining me is hudson institute senior fellow rebecca heinrich. it's good to see you, rebecca. i assume that the chinese pretty much sanitized that consolate in houston. there's probably not much that u.s. investigators can find in there right now, no? >> no i think that's exactly
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right and just the fires that we saw whenever they were ordered to close that consolate would tell us that there's a lot that they wouldn't want the united states to see , and i think it's interesting, it's interesting to note that this consolate was in houston, that's a large hub for aerospace, research but it's also right next to the largest medical complex in the world, and so the united states is very concerned that the chinese communist party, you know, they unleashed the coronavirus on to the world. they didn't tell us, they lied about it, they're still not giving us all of the genome information we need to understand the virus better and they're closing down whistleblowers in their own country, medical research, and then they're coming here and trying to steal information and recruit people to help them understand how to combat the virus so that they can steal that from american ingenuity and american scientists so we can see the grave concern here. david: absolutely you mentioned
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that fire where the diplomats presumably were burning some of the secrets they didn't want us to get. that fire came after they were notified that the consolate be closed so i'm assuming that our intelligence forces pretty much knew they were going to try to burn everything they could or shred it so that they have probably a collection right now, some pretty hard evidence of the bad doing that were going on there, right? >> oh, absolutely. i think there's evidence of all kinds of spying that has been going on in this particular region over the last decade. i think there's over 50 cases specifically that the fbi already knows about and remember 80% of all counter intelligence espionage cases in the united states are related to the chinese communist party, so that the fbi has seen an enormous up-tick in the trump adminitration is going after this particular problem. we wouldn't have made this big significant effort to close down this consolate, creating this greater tension between the two countries if we didn't have real evidence that to allow
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it to be open was harming americans and american security. david: now in addition to espionage against our government and clearly, against businesses to try to steal intellectual property, there are questions and i emphasize the word questions, because i don't think we have hard evidence yet about whether or not they were either encouraging or in some way helping radical organizations in the united states and i'm thinking specifically antifa and specifically during the outbreak s of violence from antifa over the past couple of months is there any hard evidence of that? >> i have not seen any. i wouldn't even begin to speculate on that. i would say, however, that because of the breadth of the chinese espionage effort and the definitely the incentive and the willingness in the part of the ccp to create problems within the united states, it's definitely in their interest to have turmoil and to have americans pitting against one
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another, so it definitely works into their favor that all of this is going to be domestically david: and we have seen bots and these electronic methods of trying to stir up trouble. we saw that from the russians back in 2016. we see it from the chinese now, but i have to very quickly, because we have to go rebecca but how difficult is it going to be for american businesses now who have been in china to deal with things that consolates usually help them out with, with visas and stuff like that? >> well there might be a challenge you always have to weigh the risk and i think we are in a decades-long effort to compete with china and what the trump adminitration has done is moved us from just, you know, head in the stand engagement with the chinese communist party to understanding that we are in a really serious competition and it's going to take whole of government across the american government and also american businesses have to understand they are americans first, they are not citizens of the world first, and so they're going to have to cooperate and make hard choices even if it's painful in
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lewis wanted to apply here and today he will be honored before lying in repose and taken to selma, alabama, before services to the ame church. he will cross the pettus bridge one last time the site of the voting rights march of dr. martin luther king. and lewis would return time and again to reiterate his message of nonviolence. >> we were beaten, tear gassed,
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some of us was left bloody here on this bridge. 17 of us were hospitalized that day, we never became bitter or hostile. the truth that we stood for would hold us there. >> from the bridge, lewis' casket heads to montgomery where he will lie in state in the capitol building. then on to washington d.c., passing black lives matter plaza where he made his last appearance. and lewis will have the journey to atlanta and due to the safety concerns around covid-19, the family and organizers asked folks even if they want to not to travel to the various memorials and services instead watch online because most of the services
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will be streaming online. david. david: one of the hardest things about the crisis, you can't treat them with the respect that they deserve. >> alicia mentioned that the troy university is the site of this for congressman lewis and it has begun the celebration of his life, dr. jack hawkins is the chancellor of troy university. i believe we can just go into that. i think we have a visual of that and also the honorable jason reeves, mayor of troy is going to be speaking. there we go. i believe that is the chancellor of troy or it may be the mayor. we have a group of individuals from troy that are going to be making their own speeches in the next couple of minutes. as soon as we get to the family of john lewis, we will dip in and listen. by the way, the congressman will be lying in state at the
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u.s. capitol next week. for more on that, we go to fox news congressional correspondent on the phone. an honor reserved for a few very people? >> that's right, they'll fly the remains of lewis to washington monday morning for the first day of lying in state at the capitol. before he gets to capitol hill, the motorcade will pass by the martin luther king memorial on the national mall and the smithsonian museum of african-american history and culture and this at the lincoln memorial. this is where lewis at age 23 spoke alongside king. lewis was the youngest speaker that day. lewis then heads to capitol hill, a military honor guard will escape lewis' casket into the capitol rotunda for a small service. the pandemic curbed a lot of this, monday and tuesday and wednesday, they will position lewis' casket on the east po
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portico, people can file outdoors social distanced to pay respect. and the capitol pays respect at the coronavirus otherwise they would see the rotunda there. they can only visit at an assigned time. house speaker nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell are discouraging people to come to washington for the ceremony because of the pandemic and lewis' body will go back inside and lie in state at the rotunda at night. 32 persons have lied in-state. late maryland senator elijah cummings last autumn, but he was at sanctuary hall and house chamber not the rotunda. last person to lie in the state in rotunda was the late arizona senator john mccain. and lewis is the first african-american and jacob chestnut and rosa parks laid in
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honor in the rotunda, but not in state. >> thank you very much, chad in washington. john lewis fought for civil rights alongside the reverend martin luther king, jr. the son of dr. king, martin luther king iii joins us now. what a pleasure, mr. king. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. david: i just want to recite as best i can in a shortened version, i wasn't there. the story goes that in 1958, i believe it was about a year after were you born, a 18-year-old john lewis stepped off of a bus, a greyhound bus in montgomery from troy and he was greeted by martin luther king, jr., your father, the man who actually paid for john lewis to come to montgomery from troy and your father said to him, so you're the boy from troy. is that story true? >> that's what i've always
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heard, that the congressman at that time, of course, just a kid and getting ready to go to college and having a conversation that he shared with my father that -- how inspired he was by listening to his speeches on a transistor radio that many of us don't know about today. that's amazing. and he said are you the boy from troy? of course john lewis has stated that he stated his full name not just john lewis, but his full name. so, yes, that's a true story. david: it's a great story. well, what was it about john lewis that inspired your father to pay for his ticket, a round trip ticket from troy to montgomery? >> you know, i don't know that i have the answer, but i will speculate and it was because of the letter that he wrote and how in detail he talked about what he had done. he used to preach to chickens.
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he was practicing because his goal, i think was to become a minister. he assumed that god had called him to the ministry and i think it's just the times. there was something unique and special that we all know about this man. and then once they met, obviously, it was the level of desire to be engaged, to bring about change. and he personified that throughout his life. david: how much -- you mentioned that he had an idea of possibly being a preacher. he chose the political course instead. but how important was god in his life? >> i would have to say that god was everything. i mean, every juncture, even if you remember when they crossed over the pettus bridge and they talked about let's kneel and pray. so prayer, faith, and religion was imminently important in everything that he did. and i think he tried to
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personify a spirit of the spirit of jesus christ. >> and of course, that spirit is embodied in one word and that word is truth and that word is also peace and he was committed to peace. i know he worked with a-- with snick, the nonviolent coordinating committee, students nor nonviolent coordinating committee and he kept that devotion to piece and nonviolence and in 2014 he had an interview in which he said the following, i think we can put it on the screen. there will be some interruptions, but you must never ever give up and hold onto the philosophy and to the discipline of nonviolence and try to protest in a peaceful orderly fashion and appeal to the better angels in all of us. boy, could we use that medicine now, right? >> oh, there's no question about that that what he says and his commitment. i led a delegation in 2009
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which was the 50th anniversary of my mother and father going to india, and the congressman also joined us in that delegation, and to see him as we traveled the ghandi memorials in that amazing country of india and to see what he said during that time was quite amazing, but again, that was where the whole strategic philosophy of nonviolence, that's what we all modeled. dad modeled after ghandi and john lewis was inspired by dad and by ghandi. david: give us an inside look. he was your friend, practically a member of your family. what kind of guy, was he a fun person to be with? was he very serious or did he have a light side as well? >> no, no, he was basically all things. and what i mean by that is, there was humor, but there was
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humility and compassion, this is not an act, this is who he was every day of his life. i don't ever remember him saying anything unkind and that's just unusual. it's a unusun unusual following but he was a remarkable human being and that energy that he exhibited we will miss. you watch him because as a mentor of mine, not just a friend, but certainly a mentor and everywhere that you would see him go, you never saw him pass by any group of young people without stopping to talk to them, to encourage them, to talk about don't give up, don't give in, don't give out and of course, he personified that, but he encouraged them and gave them hope and inspiration and that is something that we will miss in our society and certainly in the halls of the united states congress. david: beautiful words. martin luther king iii, thank you for being here, appreciate it. >> thank you. david: great talking with you.
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>> well, as friends and family kick off six days, including my ne next-- jason reeves after mr. reeves we'll have three pastors and also giving honor to the life of john lewis, and then we will have his family. as soon as we get to john lewis' family his brother and several sisters, we will dip in, but let's go to texas democratic congressman al green who served with john lewis in congress for many years. a pleasure to have you in, congressman, thank you for being here. >> thank you, mr. asman, it's my honor to be with you, and i'd like to send a shout out to
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my friend martin king who was on. david: he's wonderful. >> he absolutely is. i had the honor of going to india with and much we can say to john lewis we can extend to him, too. if i may extend my sympathies to the family of john lewis and hoping that they can get through this troubling times. david: they are troubling times. and we've had this, but then adding on. let's talk about john lewis' life for a second and your work with him. what was it like to actually work with john lewis? >> well, it was a great experience. a learning experience for me. our age difference is only a few years. i think i'm about six years younger than he, maybe a little bit more, but he was a true believer in the truest sense of the word. he truly did believe that
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carlisle was right, no life can live forever. he believed to earth shall rise again, but he believed that dr. king was right about the order of the universe being wrong and the arc of the moral universement he sought to bend the curve of the universe and did it in a calm and prophetic way. not only by speaking truth, but living truth. and he didn't say we ought to cross the edmund pettus bridge and find something else to do that day. he was there. not only was he there, but he was at the front of the line when they crossed the pettus bridge. he walked his talk and it was an honor to know somebody who every day tried to improve the lives of all of the people, not just black people, mr. asman, but all people. david: first of all, you can call me david, please. but beyond that, how was he as a negotiator? because a lot of what you guys
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do in congress is talk to people who don't necessarily believe as you do and try to convince them to come your way. how was he at negotiating and compromising, and bringing people on board? >> well, negotiation has a lot to do with the strength of the person who is negotiating. and he came from a position of righteousness. it was very difficult to differ with him because he embraced issues at that had a quality associated with justice and truth. and with that on his side, he was a very formidable negotiator because he had much of what you wanted to negotiate for and you found yourself questioning whether or not you wanted to be on the wrong side of history when you oppose what he did. some of his votes actually influenced the passage of votes. people would ask, where is john lewis on some of the great issues of our time related to human rights, human dignity and
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if john lewis was there, it gave others a degree of of comfort knowing they had him as a part of this. a degree of comfort in standing with him. they stood with the vote, but knew they were standing with john lewis and that was important. >> how about people who didn't believe as he did, on various policies. did he give them time and hear them out? >> he did. he was a fair-minded person. he would hear anybody out. he might not agree with everyone, but he would take the time to listen. and those who differed with him and those that he differed with because he didn't agree with every one, they respected him. i don't think that there's a person in congress who didn't have a high level of respect for the honorable john lewis. and they showed it in the way they addressed him in the general sense and in the elevators, as we moved through the halls speaking to each other. his level of respect was high.
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this is why many have styled him the conscience of the congress and i think he wore that tight quite well. david: we talked to mr. king about this moments ago, i'm sure we heard that, but he did have an idea of becoming a pastor at one point in his life early on and his being able to pull from that faith must have made a difference in the work that he did and the relationships that he formed inside congress? >> he was a person of great faith and i've heard the story that my dear friend martin spoke of with reference to preaching to the chickens. [laughter] >> and i can remember, at least one occasion, i think he may have said and i think some of those chickens may have been saved. but he truly had a spirit that excueded his faith. he believed in doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. he believed in letting people
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live their lives, but also helping them to live their lives. i don't think his motto, if you would, would be live and let live. his would be live and help live. not just people alone to their own devices, but to try to improve the lives of people. not live and let live. but live and help live. david: congressman al green, great pleasure to talk to you as well. i know your heart is going to be in next week and please pass on our condolences to john lewis' family i'm sure you'll meet with over the coming week. >> do we one small favor. tell mr. cavuto hello and i hope he's doing well. david: he's just on a break. he works hard and needs him off. thanks, al green. appreciate it. >> thank you. david: we're awaiting comments from the brothers and sisters of john lewis. they're going to be speaking
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>> this is henry grant lewis, the brother of john lewis at troy university. let's listen in. >> that i want you to know about is that john lewis that would gravitate for the least of us, would drive by his four-year-old nephew's birthday party. he would feed the hungry and homeless on thanksgiving day. took the time to go by a young man's house in troy to portray the young john lewis in a black history class, asking his young brothers would be part of his
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special guest list while receiving the medal of freedom from president barack obama. making a surprise visit to the great nephew's fifth grade class at charles henson. always attending family functions, even if he could only stay for an hour or so, because of his busy schedule. he was always concerned about the health and well-being of his family and members of others. to sum up his life of john lewis, i would say he worked a lifetime to help others and made the world a better place in which to live. and on a personal note, i talked to john on thursday, the day before he passed, and we would always have these interesting conversations. he would always ask me how is everybody doing, no matter how bad he felt.
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so we exchanged the love we have for each other thursday, thursday night, rather. and his last word was, how is the family doing? how is everybody doing? and i said they're doing fine. he said well, you make sure to tell them that i asked about them. and on a little bit of a humorous side. when john was first sworn into congress, i think i got my year right in 1986, i was there and during the swearing-in ceremony, right before the swearing-in ceremony, he looked up, he knew where i was sitting and he looked up and he gave me the thumbs up. and i gave him the thumbs up back. so after the event was over, we was together and i asked him, i said, john what were you thinking when you gave me the thumbs up? he said i was thinking this is a long ways from the cotton
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fields of alabama. and those are the memories that i have of my brother and we would have these late night conversations and early morning conversations, where he would call me 11:00, 12:00 at night and he'll ask me, are you asleep? and i'd say, no, i'm not asleep, john. actually, i was asleep and he'll say have you heard from freddie or vivi lately? yeah, a few days ago. >> i think i'll call them. don't call them tonight, call them tomorrow, because this is late. that's the john lewis we grew to love and our family naturally will miss him, but he was at peace. he was at peace and he was ready to meet the lord. thank you. [applaus
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[applause] >> good morning, everybody. >> my name is jackson lewis rupert and congressman john lewis was my uncle and my hero and because of us he kept legacy alive. thank you. [applause]. [laughte [laughter] >> good morning. john robert lewis, my big brother. humble man, simple man, and a man of god. he always wanted to improve the lives of others without any concern for himself. his deep faith in god made him
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extraordinary. he was fearless by trusting in god because he was chosen. he lived with a never ending desire to help others. he often told us, if you see something wrong, do something. his actions showed us just that. in a time when going to jail was received as trouble, he reminded us that it was good trouble. necessary trouble. see something, say something, do something. thank you. [applaus [applause]. ♪
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♪ >> by the way, we're told that singer is sheila jackson. that was an unbelievable rendition of "hero". we've heard from grant lewis, brother of john lewis, and rosa mae tyner. we're going to hear from two other brothers and a sister, ethel mae tyner, samuel lewis and freddie lewis as well. i believe they're getting up to the podium as well. very, very poignant memorial service for john lewis who died last week and will be remembered for this entire week
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beginning today. let's listen. i believe the next speaker will be the sister of john lewis, ethel mae tyner. ♪ >> a tribute to a person whom you have known all of your life was hard for me, but i'm thankful to the treasure of memories that we shared with him. preaching to us out of that old pecan tree. he would preach and he'd
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probably praying, also, but you know, robert-- most everyone calls him john, but he's always just been robert to us, his family, our brother. robert been preaching of justice and equality, even at a young age. and one of my brothers mentioned, in the cotton fiel fields. we was farmers, our father, everybody was farmers. and i remember so long ago when the clouds would come over the sun, he would start singing and preaching. and there's a song he would always start with.
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there's a dark cloud arising, let's go home. let's go home. and he was also afraid of thunder and lightning, but he stood by. he always was by us. now, when i look at all of this, the pictures that i see all the time and i think about where he came from. humble means. humble. always. and you know, i don't mention all of his accolades because you all know them. you all know these. you already know it. but he came from a humble beginning, always humble and
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respectful to others. so to my brother, robert, this is not a good bye, it's just a different kind of hello. and you know, he always said, how you doing? and he had this -- i'm well. so rest well, robert. rest well. thank you. [applaus [applause] >> my name is freddie lewis. and like my sister said, he was just robert, we all called him by robert. and i'm from michigan, i stayed
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in michigan. and john had a speaking engagement in a college in michigan way up north and i drove a good distance to hear him speak. he spoke for different things he did at the college. and when was over with, he asked if there were any questions, so i stood up, i stood up and said, yes. robert, anybody called robert from way out here, they've got to know me personally. i said i'm your brother freddie. and to hear you speak. and my brother grant -- every time he'd come close to michigan, i was there. and like i said, he's our brother, brother robert. he wasn't no john. he was robert and i loved him. okay. thank you. [applaus
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[applause] >> good morning. i told my pastor i wasn't going to preach. [laughter]. but i'm going to talk about my dear brother john. what can i say about john robert lewis? well, he was a congressman to most. john to others. robe robert, robert to family, but the most important role he played for me was being my older brother. i can tell you so much about john robert lewis, but we would be here all day. and his work over the years has spoken for him. one of my childhood memories is
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when we was younger, our mother would call me robert and call robert me. because we looked so much alike, even though we were nine years apart. i remember the day when john left home, mother told him not to get in trouble, not to get in the way, and be particular. but we all know that john got in trouble, got in the way, but it was a good trouble. john was different from the rest of the family and he had thoughts that all of the troubles he got himself into would change the world. i was so honored that john was my brother and he will live forever in all of our hearts. so, keep john's legacy alive. get out and vote and if john's voice, keep your eyes on the prize. i love you, brother.
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rest on and i will see you again one day. [applause] [applause] >> i know where we are, but let the church say amen. >> amen. >> i'm just honored and glad to be here and i want to thank the family for including me in the celebration of my friend. i heard the mayor say that john did a dance. well, every time we were on program together, he'd be just on pins and needles, waiting for his favorite song and getting ready to dance with
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dotty. well, you know luther vandross did a song, dance with my father, but today, john, this is going to be the final dance with dotty. you and me are going to dance after this song. how many of you know god is on time god. he may not come when you want him, but he's an on time god. if you want to get on your feet, and sing with me now. ♪ ♪ is that the devil up in here?
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all right, that's dottie peoples. we heard the family of john lewis and we'll take a short break, and we'll come right back to the funeral service remembering the life of john robert lewis from troy university. we'll be back in a moment. no matter what challenges life throws at you, we're always here to help with fast response and great service and it doesn't stop there we're also here to help look ahead that's why we're helping members catch up by spreading any missed usaa insurance payments over the next twelve months so you can keep more cash in your pockets for when it matters most and that's just one of the many ways we're here to help the military community find out more at usaa.com
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>> you know, our great apologies for the gospel lovers out there. this is beautiful music and i've been listening during the break. we had to cut away there. but this is dottie peoples, and we've heard from the family he was known as robert to them, not john. and this is dottie peoples and he used to dance when she was
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singing and this is the last dance for john robert lewis. we want to bring back mr. martin luther king iii, the son of reverend dr. martin luther king, jr. it's hard for me not to break up a little bit, mr. king, because you listen to some of the accounts of john robert lewis from his family and you realize he was a humble man. he was just a humble man surrounded by farmers as he was growing up and he grew into one of the most poignant voices in capitol hill. that says a lot about this country, for all of the knocks that we've had in this country in the past few months, it says a lot that man from those humble origins could rise to the position that he rose to, no? >> you know, you're absolutely correct, but not only that, the fact of the matter was, from a child, it shows that he was consistent. we've all grow and oftentimes
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we change and certainly feels -- to my knowledge john lewis was always the same. each and every day that he awoke, that he was able to awaken, he was consistent. as i say, we're going to miss that example. but the hope is that we as a nation will essentially and eventually come together. and if we really want to have a tribute, i think we need to think about how do we do a real tribute. we live in certainly one of the greatest countries in the world. my father talked about making america what it ought to be and so, just to make sure this there's no voter suppression, for example, that certainly does exist in communities of color, what would be a tribute to john lewis, and maybe recoming together and saying we've got to pass the restoration act in honor of
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john lewis. i know there will be a lot of tributes. this challenging passing will bring us more closer together as the perfect union that this nation wants to create. david: perfect union, he loved america, he loved god and his last words were about his family which he loved dearly. martin luther king iii, a wonderful time talking to you today. thank you so much. you were the perfect voice on this occasion, we appreciate you coming in. >> thank you for the opportunity. david: absolutely. we'll be right back. er, it's important to lose weight, improve your health, and strengthen your immunity. starvation dieting, processed foods, shakes, and diet gimmicks have made us heavier and sicker. the solution for losing weight the right way is golo. we help transform your body and change your lifestyle, so you can lose weight and get healthier. over 20,000 people of all ages, and entire families, switch to golo every week, because golo works. golo is a unique approach to weight loss that targets insulin resistance and body fat.
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tight spot? former trump economic advisor steve moore joining me now. steve, good to see you. thanks for coming in. you know, a lot of people are still unemployed. yes, there has been a comeback of the economy, not quite as fast as we would like, but so many people are still unemployed. how do we deal with those folks in the coming months? >> well, this is a big problem in this negotiated stimulus bill, which is that democrats want to continue with this $600 a week supplemental benefits which is by the way on top of the benefits that people would normally get and we found that about 80% of workers now are getting more money to stay employed-- unemployed than to go back on the job. it's a big problem for the economy that has to be fixed. we all want a safety net for people who lost their job. david, come on, it's not fair and not good economics for people to get sometimes twice as much money for not working than to go back on the job. david:.
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david: but it does appear that treasury secretary mnuchin this week is going to emphasize on spending money rather than sort of growth, economic policies to get the economy moving again, to which the wall street journal had harsh words. they said that treasury exactly mnuchin is a keynesian half of whatever mrs. pelosi wants and mrs. pelosi's bill is essentially a down payment on her election agenda. that's tough medicine, do you agree? >> i do, and republicans are negotiating with themselves and they're not negotiating yet with pelosi and keep water erring down erring-- watering down promoting growth and i don't see anything to get jobs growth and i don't see
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anything like when we promoted energy. not only could the outcome be very bad, but you might be looking at a bill now that splits the republicans down the middle. i talked to people like ted cruz. talked to people like rand paul who says, look, we're supposed to be the party of limited government. we're spending money, not doing much to stimulate. what i would like donald trump to do, david, why not come out with a bold plan that has all of the ideas that free market conservatives would like to see, including a payroll tax cut, including capping these unemployment benefits, including school choice for parents in school districts where the schools aren't going to open up, liability reform and put it on the table and say this is what we stand for nancy pelosi. by the way, pelosi did that in the house, david, as you know, she's got her 300, $3 trillion bill that through-- >> sorry to cut you off, but we have run out of time. >> okay. david: great to see you, steve moore. thank you, my friend. and thank you, folks, for watching. it was a great honor to carry you through an honor of the
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is that if you're not wexpecting the shock,t and the markets fall dramatically, you might panic. what i'm worried about if you're not expecting the shock and the markets fall you might panic and you might run to cash at the moment you shouldn't prices are at your low. that's my fear, i'm not worried about the country, worried about the financial markets, in the long run they'll be fine. i'm worried about you, i'm worried who you you will respond to this crisis.
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>> you are looking at video from moments ago in alabama on the left of your screen there where a funeral service honoring john lewis was just held at troy university. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. i'm kristin fisher. leland: nice to be with you, and nice to be with you at home. i'm leland vittert. this is one event honoring john lewis this weekend and a public service held in selma later this evening. and alicia acuna is here
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