have a good night, ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." believe it or not, this is joe biden's third attempt to run for president. history gets lost when you live in the eternal present as we are now, but it's worth remembering some facts. three times. the first time biden ran was in 1988, before most of the people who work on this show were born and he was caught about lying about his biography and speeches and forced to drop out. he suggested to audiences that he had grown up in a coal mining family in wales. that's not true. joe biden is actually from america. his father sold cars in wilmington. biden went to catholic prep

school in the suburbs. so it was pretty embarrassing. it took 20 years before biden ran again and when he did, it did not go well. in 2008, joe biden got it total of 1% of the vote in the iowa caucuses and dropped out that night. joe biden, whatever his strengths, turned out to be so bad at running for president that even barack obama, supposedly his right. , repeatedly refused to endorse them. just"h can't win, that was barack obama's view. in the wuhan coronavirus arrived. democratic governors chart on the country, millions lost theie jobs. the economy tanked, americans huddled in their homes, cut off from one another and deeply miserable. strategically cloistered away in silence, joe biden shot ahead in the polls. not because of anything he did. he just happened to be there. as of tonight, joe biden could win the race. unfortunately fetus, joe biden cannot govern the country. he is incapable of it and he has all but admitted that. he says he won't run for a

t,second term. so his running mate will be the most consequential vp pick ine american history. and soon we will know who it is. apparently the announcements coming coming in the next week. as of tonight,t senator kamala harris seems like a front runner. she is certainly the best known. harris is a product of the same highly credentialed yet deeply unimpressive world that spawns much of our media. needless to say, they love her, she's one of them. the publicc though has been much less impressed, including democrats. harris was so unpopular with democratic primary voters that she never made it to the first mvote in the primary. when she dropped out in december, harris was polling at around 3%. the wrap on harris in exit polls is that she's a fraud, she doesn't really believe in anything.. she will say whatever it takes.r of course that is also harris' primary strength. here she is promising free health care to illegal aliens. ar>> so you support giving universal health care, medicare for all, to people who are in this? >> let me just be very clear

aboutet this. i am opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education or public health, period. >> tucker: oh now wait a second, you may be wondering. i'm sitting in my house, maybe unemployed, paying a huge percentage of my net worth or health care. so why shouldd people who aren't even allowed to be in this country in a the first place get it for free at my expense? by the way, how can a government that's already $27 trillion in debt afford to pay for the rest of the world's medical bills?ls those are all good questions. kamala harris has no answers, fixing problems is not the point of the exercise. winning is the point. over the years harris has been willing to do pretty much whatever it takes to win, including use the power of her office to crush political t opponents. as the attorney general of california, harris will endlessly defended her big donors in the abortion industry.

when journalist called david criticized planned parenthood in a documentary, kamala harris sent the police to his home. later describe the authoritarian nightmare harris unleashed on his life. >> a highly political search warrant to conduct a political raid on my home to seize the unreleased undercover footage, by the way, it's black letter california law that you are not tsupposed to get a search warrt to seize the unpublished materials of a journalist whether a citizen journalist, professional journalist, but that's what kamala harris went ahead and did at the behest of planned parenthood to an order to cover up for them and protect them from increased further scrutiny for the crimes of selling aborted baby body parts, sometimes from partial-birthrt abortions. >> tucker: so i think we can conclude from this episode that kamala harris or any politician willing to use law enforcement to stop journalism she doesn't like probably doesn't care too much about civil liberties or equality under the law and

indeed she doesn't. harris supports allowing universities and employers to discriminate based on the skin color of applicants. what decade is this? she supports race-based reparations. she would like to rewrite the constitution to a limited their electoral college because it's inconvenient. to give you some perspective on these positions, just ten years ago barack obama would have run away fromob them. that's how much the democratic party has changed. and if you're looking at more evidence of that change, you should also know that joe biden is considering cumbersome and karen bass of los angeles as his running mate. she's also on the short-list. unlike kamala harris, karen bass is not a fraud. karen bass means it. she's sincere. she's an unapologetic left-wing bomb thrower who spent decades working to help fidel castro and his cold war against the united states. karen bass kept praising fidel castro all the way to t hs death just four years ago. in the 1970s, karen bass belong to a group the the l.a. police department accused of

training revolutionaries in "terrorist tactics and guerrilla warfare." bass apparently visited cuba multiple times a year. so it's not pejorative to know that karen bass is not a mainstream figure. she literally cosponsor the new way forward act. that is a lunatic bill that would force the u.s. government to reimport at taxpayer expense hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens whom we've deported for committing crimes. bring them back here. violent crimes, for real. karen bass is so extreme that, like all harris, by the way, she's currently trying to repeal california's main antidiscrimination law. bass wants to make racial discrimination legal as it was before the civil rights movement. we are not overstating this. karen bass has issued press releases bragging about it. you may not avert about any of this, the details are so shocking that virtually no media outlet bothers to cover them but it is all real. look it up before it's scrubbed.

even mind this is the person, these are the people that could soon be running our country. pedro gonzales writes for the journal of american greatness, we are happy to have him for the first time on the show tonight. thanks so much for coming on. so here you have two potential vp picks, both of whom who have explicitly endorsed eliminating the biggest state's antidiscrimination law.ti it's hard to believe that's true, it is true. what should we conclude from this? >> the both of these people are willing to use f no politics as a vehicle for political power.ol i think you framed it very well that harris is -- she doesn't mean it. she pays lip service to progressive, but at the end of the day she's not really -- she doesn't mean any of the things that she says.th bass on the other hand is a total ideologue. she really believes in the things that she is saying that i think what makes her so dangerous is that she has a good way or she has a talent for taking radical ideas and making

them appear moderate. but at the end of the day, both of these candidates are going in the same direction, that is a very bad place for america because both of them have no problem with essentially portraying white people as the group that needs to be disadvantaged for other groups in this country to succeed. that is insane. you're talking about saying that all the problems in this country for all of these different groups are the fault of this one group and in order to address these wrongdoings, this history of american sin, we need to repeal antidiscrimination laws. that's insane. >> tucker: it's also -- it is insane and it's immoral, but it's also the single most divisive way that you could govern the country. i can't think of a way that would divide a country more deeply and more permanently, can you? >> no, and for bass it's not surprising. like you said, a lot of this stuff is not public knowledge,

but bass is a divisive character. she has been since the beginning of her political career. later this month she's going to be attending the national coalition of black reparations alongside senator cory booker and this is a conference where since the 70s i think they've been basically pushing for reparations and blaster, a key speaker was louis farrakhan and it was backed and funded by the nation of islam. this is a black nationalist organization with a history of violence and karen bass will be attending later this month, i think it's from july 1st to august 1st and this person is considering to be vp. she says divisive as it gets but again, she's very good at concealing his views and sort of playing them down. >> tucker: i'm pretty hard to shock. you just shocked me. i wasn't aware of that. i read the news all day. why is none of this covered? these seem like relevant facts. >> it's not covered because it doesn't fit the narrative.

conservatives are bad, white people areva back on the democratic party is going to save america from trump, from his supporters, from the ideas that his supporterss hold dear. you don't hear it because most of the people in the media are sympathetic to people like karen bass and her sympathetic to people like harris even i think most of them realize that she is deeply cynical. >> tucker: yes, deeply cynical is exactly the phrase i would use. i don't know if that's a compliment or an insult in this context. pedro gonzales, i'm really glad we had you want on it, i hope you come back. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: the state of oregon is sending state troopers into portland to restore order in the city, they are claiming that. it's almost 60 days of nonstop violence. the department of roman security announced it will begin a phased withdrawal of federal law enforcement once federal property is secure, and that of course includes the federal courthouse. bernie kerik served as police commissioner in new york city, our biggest police department, and we're happy to have a

montagnais. thanks so much for coming on.t are you confident that this will solve the destruction of portland? >> no. not really. you have to go by the history of what's happened here. this started two months ago. two months ago. if the mayor and the governor did their job two months ago there would have been no additional federal marshals in there. we wouldn't have had to worry about the courthouse. it wouldn't have had to worry about the federal property, but they did not do their job, so the president dispatches the marshals, vhs, to go in and secure the courthouse. that only happened two or three weeks ago. when you listen to these lunatics, the mayor, the governor, they're talking about oppression. they don't live in a sovereign nation. oregon is not a sovereign nation. there is no oppression. we responded to violence. we responded to arson.

we responded to the looting, the attacks on the courthouse andta the attacks on law enforcement. the portland police want to do everything in their power to get in there and end this and they've been prevented from doing so by the mayor, who was ayactually the police commissioner, and by the governor. >> tucker: a distressing piece up today that suggest based on interview with sources that the permanent class at the department of justice has resisted tamping down this violence. career bureaucrats have resisted sending more fbi agents fornd example, indicting more people. do you think that sounds plausible having been around law enforcement all your life? it's also frustrating to read it. >> it is frustrating and i can tell you i talked to the guys in portland on a daily basis. the portland pd, the members of law enforcement in oregon, they want to go out there and do the job that had to be done and they were not allowed.

the dhs people, the u.s. marshals, they want to secure that site. nobody is going to tell these guys not to do this. if they want to do the job that has to be done. you know, i think the president, the president is taking a stand. we're not going to take the courthouse, you're not going to take federal property and if you do, we are coming after you. >> tucker: i believe thatuc completely. i think probably a lot of bureaucrats in the way.ea great to see you tonight, thank you so much. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: america's tech oligarchs testified to congress today. it was a perfect opportunity for politicians to defend the people they represent against the most powerful people in the world or making it a relevance. did they? we will tell you after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: america's tech monopolies are subverting our democracy. they are interfering with thecr presidential election far more aggressively and more effectively than vladimir putin never did. d most of them are doing it in secret, most voters don't know what's happening but sometimes the interference is brazenly obvious. just this week they censored a video of expressing views on science but the tech oligarchs feared would hurt joe biden's

election chances come so they snatched it off the internet. those same tech oligarchs testified before congress today. it was the perfect opportunity for republicans to represent their voters and to protect the country. mostly they didn't. in some cases they embarrassedas themselves. here's the congressman from wisconsin confronting mark zuckerberg of facebook. unfortunately, he asked z zuckerberg about something that twitterk. did. >> it was reported that donald trump jr. got taken down for period of time because he put something up, the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. why did that happen? >> congressman, first, to be clear, think what you might be referring to happened on twitter, so it's hard for me to speak to that. >> tucker: right. wrong company. by these people even trying? or maybe they are throwing the fight on purpose. at one point, he questioned

jeff bezos of amazon. here's how it went. >> let me ask, say the at&t example was applied to amazon and you are required to spend stuff off, no more of a one-stop shop but you have to go to separate places for books or groceries for videos or electronics, how are the consumers helped by that? >> sir, thank you, they would not be. >> writes. >> to be very clear. >> tucker: oh, mr. basals, would it be good for america if we curbed our power? no, it would be bad. okay. next question. he never followed up. nor did he ask a lot of other obvious questions. didn't ask him why amazon -- a hate group. the power he denied charitable contributions to -- or whether

he has used his personal newspaper to promote coronavirup lockdowns because amazon profits from the quarantine. $13 billion in one day treats so many of his workers like bangladesh in a sweatshop. apparently he still living in 2002 where the internet is still decentralized, or tech moguls or heroes and orthodoxy seems to be working. or maybe something else is going on. in the last election cycle, google was his second largest donor. now ask yourself, why would a left-wing company in california donate to a supposedly conservative republican in wisconsin? l, maybe you just saw r why. before today's hearing a transparently pro-tech memo pushed by the committee's republicans leaked online. the memo downplays google's obvious market dominance. that's not a small thing in an

antitrust debate, it's the whole question. then they would suggest that markets will somehow magically solve political biashe in tech o if you don't like being censored, just start your own google. it's simple. stop complaining. c an opinion host at the hill has followed this topic for sometime, we are happy to have him on tonight. so why don't you just start your own google? >> well, it's a great question. i don't have access to hundreds of billions of dollars in capital in the market dominance that google has. and even if i did, it's very likely that google would not allow me to ever get as big as they are, so it just goes to show you how republicans really missed -- whenever it came to these hearings today. they told us that they care about bias and i'm very heartened to hear that. i'm heartened to hear that they care about censorship, but why exactly is bias such a problem in the first place? it's because of the market power of these companies. so if you're not willing to fight or even ask critical questions about market power of

these companies, then you've kind of given away the entire game or the solution to the bias that you purport to care about. they can go to their voters, they can say we confronted mark zuckerberg or so-and-so about bias, but we are not-s actually going to do anything about it whenever it comes to, i don't know, fulfilling the public response abilities as a member of the united states congress. >> tucker: here's what i don't understand, these are politicians, they respond to basic stimuli, they want to win, they don't want to lose. the most powerful companies in the world are no weapons in the arsenal of the democratic w national committee. they're working on behalf of the joe biden campaign to stop the president for being reelected and stop republicans from -- for example. don't they care? >> why would they care? because jim is still going to get his check from google. many of these people make more money in opposition. many of the conservative infrastructure who is funded by google and many of these other tech giants they are talking about here, they love being in opposition because then they don't even have to pretend to do anything and they can continue

to cash their checks. they all have lobbying groups that are waiting for them. i've been on a personal crusade highlighting how many republicans -- yes, republican staffers, are working for the chinese party controlled organization. if they don't care about voters, patriotism, they don't care about data or privacy or bias or censorship, they care about one thing, thus making money, paying for their second homes. >> tucker: it does seem like -- i just want to end on this really quickly -- their voters care. your average nonprogressivepr understands that small groups of people who control all the information are probably too powerful to have a democracy. anyou can't have a democracy and that kind of system. do you think voters understand that? it seems like they do. >> they actually don't absolutely understand that.en please fight for me, please stand up for me and over and over again you get what you got today which is an embarrassing display -- can you imagine a member of congress in the 1900s asking rockefeller or jpmorgan whether they thought

they were too powerful or with the market harm would be if the government would break them up? it's patently absurd. >> tucker: these guys are way more powerful than rockefeller, carnegie -- thanks. >> thanks. >> tucker: compliment. jim jordan is a conservative, the highest ranking republican on the committee, congressman, thanks so much for coming on. so you tweeted today a tweet that was heartening i think to a lot of people. he said big tech is off to good conservatives, clearly true. it's time they face the consequences. so to the many frustrated viewers out there who don't outhink republicans have forced them to face any consequences for the past four years, tell us specifically, if you would, what those consequences are going to be. >> you got to work -- we are looking at that right now. you may have -- the justice department is looking at antitrust laws that go after these company's right now and frankly we may have to change the law and we also have to continue to do what you've been doing, and thank you for doing that, calling them out every time we see the bias, every time

we see them become facilitators of the mob will cancel people, we have to continue to call that -- remember, tucker, twitterer went after me two yeas ago. i've been talking with us for a couple years. 430 in the house, only four. gates, metals, nunez, jordan get shadow banned by twitter and it was just a glitch. i said what did you put in the algorithm and the dash i think i said that on your show. >> tucker: you did and of course we agree but i'm a talk show host. 4 million viewers or whatever but my job is to talk. lawmakers are tasked with running the country and passing laws. by definition. and these companies operate with the special carve out provided them by congress and congress has neverde done anything to ren them in. so we've got, what, 96 days till the election. other going to be any consequences until then? >> you just mentioned the most important thing.

in 96 days, 97 days, whatever that number is, it's important we reelect donald trump and take the house because do you think joe biden, kamala harris and jerry nadler are going to fix this? do you think they're actually going to stop big attack from attacking conservatives and censoring conservatives? republicans aren't in control. we are working on the senate, working with the senate on this 2:30 issue, and every remedy we can because there has to be a remedy for what they're doing to conservatives. but the most important thing is to take back the house and make sure donald trump is reelected. >> tucker: it seems very difficult for any candidate or party to win anything if all the information about the race is controlled by people who are working for the other side, which is where we are now. without whining about how nothing has been done so far, let me ask you, jim has taken money from google, google is her second biggest campaign contributors in the last cycle, why do you think would give you money? >> if they want to exercise

their first amendment limited to give money,, i raised $3 million last quarter. if google gives me a check, god bless them, that doesn't change what i am saw the tanana committee. i went after -- you just raised. in 2016, google try to tailor their features to help quentin in key states. that's directly from the email the head of their multicultural marketing section -- >> tucker: i'm a talk show host, we talk about this stuff all the time. where's the part where he said we are yanking your liability exception, one we don't have it fox news where they can't be sued for garbage on my site, worth the effort to do that? i'm frustrated, i think a lot o her viewers a frustrated, once i to happen? >> we're working on it right now with folks in the senate. josh hawley is working on it.f what is the way -- what is the best way to structure that language, we are looking at th that. alsoe with the justice departmt is doing. bill barr is looking at this issue as well.e we may have to write some othere law. there are three possible remedies here.

although his there is a big problem and there has to be remedied, we're looking at which is the best course of action to take but none of it happens, tucker. none of it happens if jerry nadler is still in charge of the judiciary. >> tucker: i'm certainly not t advocating for jerry nadler having more power than he does obviously. he's appalling. again, i think most people watching feel justified frustration that here we are right at the edge of the election and it's pretty hard to win anything if these people continue to interfere in our democracy. >> i do. the good news is in 2016, in spite of what google did, the american people saw it for what it wasn't donald trump was elected. i think it's going to happen again but we got to keep our eye on them. that's why raised the issue in the hearing today twice with the mr. google. >> tucker: thanks for coming on. coronavirus shutdowns destroy countless small businesses but they were especially tough onn

restaurants. even some businesses brave enough to defy the orders died anyway. we will talk to restaurant owners from colorado learned a deep lesson about the way government works. plus, airlines with peanuts and ginger ale on flights come another giving out face masks and something else, what exact that will be coming down the aisle the next time you fly? new video, matt finn, just ahe ahead. ♪

>> tucker: it looks like boarding a plane won't be the same going forward. robots could be coming into the aisles. matt finn joins us to explain what we are about to encounter. >> the device basically looks like a beverage cart with arms and one pushed it down the aisle it emits ultraviolet light which is supposed to significantly reduce viruses and bacteria. the devices are being put into service at john f. kennedy airport in new york and

fort lauderdale in florida as part of a 90 day pilot program. the ultraviolet light and clean a cabin in less than 10 minutes but the very powerful life can be dangerous, especially to skin and eyes. so the plane must be empty. jetblue is slated to become the first to test it which honeywell says has been used in hospitals demonstrated to be over 90% effective on all kinds of pathogens. studies are underway right now to determine effectiveness against covid-19, parliament results from boston universityry and italian researchers indicates ultraviolet light can deactivate covid-19. other airlines are in talks to bring his robots on board so you might see when the next time you're at an airport, whenever that is, tucker. >> tucker: interesting. kindnd of ominous. i think i'm anti-robot. i'm not going to ask you to comment, matt finn. well, coronavirus shutdown mass quarantines destroy countless small businesses. restaurants hit especially hard. a study released by yale found

that the majority of restaurants temporary shutdown orders will never again be open. so in may, cnc breakfast and korean kitchen in colorado, a very popular restaurant divided states shutdown orders but the business closed anyway. they serve their last meal on sunday. the owners join us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. so the reason i was so anxious to talk to you, you wrote i think on facebook a, post about what you learned about your government as you went through the saga of having a restaurant closed, defying the order, trying to open again and trying to survive in this environment. what you just tell our viewers, will you summarize it for t us? >> oh, man, this environment for business is brutal. it seems like you work so hard for something and then you get so restricted that you can't

function normally and it doesn't seem like any consideration. >> tucker: so april, you all wrote that the government and your government in colorado is actually picking winners and losers. some people are treated like criminals, small business owners, somein criminals are treated like heroes. how did that make you feel? >> yeah. it's a little disheartening. there are still currently bars that don't serve certain though my currently closed. 10:00 p.m. last call for restaurants that do serve alcohol. because i guess the coronavirus doesn't affect people after 10:00 p.m.? but walmart, home depot, no restrictions, no inspections. nothing like that. >> tucker: so the giant multinational corporations that spend so much in campaign contributions get to stay open. >> exactly. >> tucker: how much did you

send to the governor campaign and do you wish you dissent more? >> you know, we sent a big sum of zero and i wish we could have sent some negative numbers to him. >> tucker: [laughs] it does seem like -- i'm not alleging a conspiracy here, but it does seem like almost everyone of the so-called public health orders we watched across the country has almost been designed to help huge corporations like amazon and walmart and hurt people like you. have you noticed that? >> we noticed it. we know that it's easy to pick on us little guys, right? we don't have big pocketbooks were we can just, you know, change things on the fly or build new things, build new plexiglas things in our restaurant. we can't do a lot of the things that the bigger corporations can do and it's really hard to someone that's already struggling. >> tucker: so you find your a number of years, you fought through that early period where restaurants had to close. you didn't close, you were about to expand at a new got hit with

these quarantines and i are out of business. april, what are you going to do next if you don't mind myou asking? >> actually did expand. the thing is, yes we were in business for seven years and we had just started our second location in august of 2019 and that location still operational operational. it was a baby, a baby business. it's still having all the struggles of a new business. open less than a year. and having the covid restrictions just pulled out the rug from underneath us. >> tucker: so do you know what you're going to do now? >> we are going to run our colorado springs one and keep on fighting. fighting these restrictions and we have a lawsuit pending without a lawyer and we are going to try to reverse the orders and try to take -- helped us not to happen again to small businesses.sm >> tucker: it's just running a restaurant, that's not a crime. thank you so much for coming on tonight, and good luck. >> thank you. >> thank you, tucker, good nig

good night. >> tucker: good night. what fairly we are just days from learning who joe biden would like to run thehe country. his vice presidential pick. most important decision he'll ever make. dana perino is here withll the short list of possible candidates. that's next. ♪

♪ >> tucker: apparently joe biden plans to announce who he's picking is vp sometime in the next week. it's a highly consequential decision because, well, because you know why. just yesterday biden staffers forgot to tell him where he was before he took the stage and here's what happened next. >> good afternoon, everyone. welcome to kingswood community center. actually, that's the one down i used to work. that was a joke. didn't know where we were anyway. it's great to be here. back in a place where, you know -- >> tucker: we are not mocking that, by the way. many of us if we live long enough will be in the same place. it's sad. things got worse this afternoon when the candidate forgot what

year it was. >> we had a relatively small population and we called -- at the time, a hispanic population, mostly puerto rican, american citizens already, but you know it the 20/20 census, which is now, two censuses ago, soon to be. >> tucker: okay. so he's not going to run the country. o at which lucky person will get to show joe biden win? jose's vp pick? dana perino is as knowledgeable on the subject is anyone in the world, hosts the daily briefingo cohosts "the five," always happy to have her on our show. so dana, who was on this list,sh would he think is likely, what does it tell us about the candidate? >> you did a great job listing many of them in the opening monologue tonight. i do think that senator kamala harris is a real possibility, even president trump says she would be a good vice presidential pick for joe biden. the thing is though, when she was running for president herself, she didn't run a very

good campaign and she became a worse campaigner as time went on. the thing that would work in her favor are those three things that joe biden needs to think about when he makes his choice. first, he has to have somebody who is vetted. so who has already had stories runabout them of their past? somebody like a kamala harris because she ran for president. that is somebody that you know a little bit -- she's been vetted. only like karen bass, the congressman from california that you talked about at the top of the show, she would have to be introduced to america. >> tucker: but not to cuba, they know her there. >> exactly. but this is a person who even joe biden has said needs to be ready from day one. so one of the things that you've seen candidates to overtime a summary like obama because what he was young, he wanted summative that was an old washington hand, he went for joe biden. that was a good choice for him. someday like donald trump takes

a mike pence because that reassured conservatives and evangelicals, that was a good pairing for him. so for joe biden, does he need to go for somebody that has more vigor, a little bit more youthful, and also, you know, whoever he chooses, he has to know that that person is going to plan to run for president starting november 4th. >> tucker: starting literally day one. so i hate to press you since you're not just a guest, where friends, but i cannot resist getting on tape your prediction for who he is to pick. >> you know what? i think that we could be surprised. i think that there might be somebody else even in the wings. i will say that i do not believe that susan rice, who was president obama's national security advisor and is rumored to be on this list, i do not think she's going to be the choice. i think it would be a bad choice for him. i think the right would love nothing more than to have susan rice be this choice.

she's never campaign. you have to have somebody was going toch be willing to go aftr president trump and thrasher's, summary like kamala harris who showed you she can do that. look at tammy duckworth. of illinois. you know, right? she wants to fight, she's scrappy, but i think susan rice is not going to have it so my production as it will not be susan rice. is that enough? >> tucker: no, that's interesting. susan rice is smart. i will say that. i don't agree with anything she says. >> she might make a great chief of staff, i don't think she would be a great vice president pick for joe biden. i don't think that would help them. and what isis going to be a cloe election. >> tucker: stacey abrams, attorney general. my call. great to see you. >> no, maybe. >> tucker: i will be in bermuda, call me. thanks. well, and school district across the country, administrators are adopting a curriculum that is explicitly anti-american and it's also totally dishonest,

wrong on facts, "the new york times" designed it. one u.s. senator says we ought to defund schools who hate the country, that seems sensible. joins us after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: chicago, buffalo, new york, washington, d.c., some of the school district that plaintiff's materials for something called the 6019 project. an age historical curriculum based on essays based in "the new york times" magazine. couldn't be whimsycu here. students will learn that they follow the curriculum polities like the united states was founded in 1619 because that's when the first african arrived, they'll learn that american capitalism only exists because of slavery. senator tom cotton introduced legislation called the saving american history act, it would pull federal funds from public

schools that use the curriculum. he has been attacked unfairly and highly aggressively proposing this prayer we are happy to have senator cotton on tonight. let me just say i've watched the attacksgh on your character in response to this legislation.on they are disgusting and i'm glad you are facing them down. why do you think it's important to pass this? >> talker, as you say, the 1619 work is a radical work of historical revisionism aiming to indoctrinate our kids toev hate america, that america was not found on the natural equality of all mankind and the freedom that flows from that as our declaration says but rather founded on racism. nothing could be further from the truth and the 1619 project has been debunked by leading historians of the era like sean willis, gordon wood, some of them are liberals. even the lead author recently admitted in response to my legislation that the 1619 project is not a work of history, it's a work of

journalism. i would say it's a work of activism. your tax dollars should not go to fund an effort to teach our kids to hate america. "the new york times" should not teach american history to our kids. >> tucker: if the person who wrote it admits it's not history, why would we teach it as history and why would taxpayers across the country funded this garbage and why aren't more senators joining with you to stop the brainwashing? >> i think that's a very good question, tucker. especially since it just happened the last few days in response to my legislation, the lead author admitted this is not history,y, a work of journalism. i would say activism. i would suggest the school board you named off the lead, like buffalo, chicago, washington, to rethink their use of journalism not history that was debunked by the leading scholars of the era. >> tucker: the attacks on you have been so unfair and i never defend politicians from anything but it's so unfair and ferocious, designed to send another message to their

senators, don't get involved in this stuff. let us have full control of your kids' minds or we'll do it to you we do to calm down my tom cotton. >> it's not working on me, tucker. the latter goal i'm not going to back down when it comes to defending our country and defending what is great about america and teaching our kids to be proud of america. >> tucker: let's just not lie to our kids and call it education. they are just lying. i'm rooting for you. ii think this really matters, my be more than tax rates. it's very important. bless you for doing it. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: senator tom cotton. by the way, nothing else matte matters. what matters is our kids believe because they are taking over soon and! than we expect. if they grow up that this country isn't worth defending or caring about or loving, we are

in deep trouble. it's worth fighting against that. lecture over. that's it for us tonight. the show that is the total sincere0 anomie of lying, pomposity, and groupthink. we turn it over to sean hannity who is in new york. >> sean: a changing and dangerous new york. we are minutes away from a special "hannity" investigation into new york city's rapid dangerous decline, homelessness, drug use, violent crime wreaking havoc on the entire city. you want to see what a billion-dollar cut to the police dodge budget looks like, do you want to see what that looks like? we have the exclusive take. comrade de blasio, a friend of his mom might want to take a note of this print all happening under your pathetic watch. this is your number one responsibility and the