after the car, they didn't give in the watches, but he was already arrested for the purchase of the car. the >> trace: what car dealer gives away at $140,000 car on a check? i don't get it. >> sandra: it's a bizarre story. great to be with you. we'll see you back here tomorrow. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. we are awaiting the start of a white house press briefing at any moment now. press secretary kayleigh mcenany's about to take the lectern, and this is the white house and congress remain far apart on a deal for a new round of coronavirus stimulus. now the president says he is prepared to take action on his own to suspend payroll tax collection and halt evictions. watch. >> they're not interested in the people. they're not interested in unemployment. they're not interested in evictions, which is a big deal. the evictions. they want to evict a lot of people. but i'm going to stop it, because they'll do it myself if

i have to. i have a lot of powers with respect to executive orders, and we are looking at that very seriously right now. >> harris: meanwhile, treasury secretary steven mnuchin and white house chief of staff mark meadows headed back to capitol hill to try again to make a deal with lawmakers. however, house speaker nancy pelosi is telling democrats in her caucus it's doubtful they could move a coronavirus bill this week. top senate democrat, chuck schumer, this morning blamed republicans for the stalemate. >> democrats are fighting to meet the needs of a desperate nation. our republican friends, however, president trump, his aides, and republicans in the senate, do not seem to appreciate the gravity of the situation. this disease has washed over our country like a great flood, and republicans are acting like we need to fix a leaky faucet.

>> harris: this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy herself. attorney and fox news contributor, emily compagno. executive director of serve america pac and fox news contributor, marie harf. in the central seat on the virtual couch, greg gutfeld is here, cohost of "five," host of ""the greg gutfeld show,"" and author of "the plus: self help for people who hate self-help." it feels like a blame game today between the democrats and republicans. why? >> greg: well, i think it's more on the democrats. there's a surprise. if you've never bought anything to the table, you can't sit at the table. when you look at chuck schumer and now, who is beyond belief, or nancy, who huddles in her massive kitchen surrounded by

phalanx of gelato, people vote taking risks and willing to share the blame if they are wrong. the people who are most visibly critical of trump have two strikes against them. they didn't offer any practical advice at the start, they didn't share the risk and they deserve no airing of their concerns. there's no control group, we don't have a massive past event like this, or a parallel universe where there is america. you can't substantiate their criticisms or claims that there is a better way, because we don't know that. i will say there is good news. this change in telehealth, making it permanent across state lines, is a big deal. it is something we can control. we may not be able to control the virus or cure the virus were even get a vaccine for the virus, but we can adjust and innovate along the way and actually improve our lives. we may actually have made a huge advancement toward universal health care, because universal health care is based on

affordability. telehealth is about making health affordable grid that's a huge deal. >> harris: just to further that point, do you see, then, both political sides coming together on something that would look more like universal health care? >> greg: i think, as innovation makes it easier, it's going to take care of itself. remember, donald trump is in the hold up here. there is no president i've seen that likes writing checks more. he's not being cheap. it's just the fact that pelosi and all the others just can't take yes for an answer. if they take yes for an answer, he looks good going into november. >> harris: you know it's interesting, kennedy? i know you've interviewed him as well, art laffer, form economics advisory board for president reagan, was on last week. he said, if you just take away the payroll tax, if you don't have money already being taken out of people's checks, you don't have to worry about whether they've got the stimulus

check digitally. some people are still waiting for the first round, the actual usps mail. it's interesting, because now you see the president talking about that. art laffer has been saying that for months. we need to get there. what's your take? >> kennedy: i wish more republicans were on board with the payroll tax cut. in fact, i have a cheer. pay-roll tax-cut! [collapse] [laughter] it would be helpful psychologically and practically for people who still have jobs, and seems as though he is internalizing the advice of the former advisor, who published an op-ed about the financial emergency and delay the payroll tax for some time, such as the irs did similarly when they delayed until july, which was a

big relief for a lot of people, and i'm sure there are those who have filed further extensions. my big concern here, i fear the two sides are going to come together and they will do so hastily and irresponsibly, and no one will have a plan as to how we are going to pay for this, and we're just going to increase the national debt more and more, borrow more money from china, and put generations on the hook for it and reduce the economic mobility. that is immoral. it's hard for politicians to look long term, because they only care about the next election cycle, they are using the stimulus money to buy votes, not foster real recovery long term for people who are hurting most. >> harris: wow, you hit the nail on the head there, kennedy, when you said "borrow more money from china, as we suffer." emily, i don't use the word

"irony" very often, but the irony of that is mind-blowing. >> emily: absolutely, harris. i echo everything kennedy said carried step is depth is bipartisan. i have to point out all these economic elements, like proposed tax payroll cuts, are against the backdrop of massive sustained drop in revenue. granted there are many who have enjoyed benefits during this time, like alcohol, and direct to consumer groceries, but there plenty of industries that are suffering even if just a little bit lik to while trying to stay afloat. we talk about evictions, which is absolute correct that we need to protect against them, but they will have an effect on the mortgage industry we have not yet grasped. the bottom line is this typical congressional blame game going

on is not only exhausting but it is sickening during this time. the g.o.p. needs to come together and the democrats need to approve a stopgap measure while they all figure out how to earn the salary that we pay. >> harris: marie? >> marie: i agree that congressional inaction is really sickening, and i think what's frustrating to a lot of people is that the democrats passed a bill in may and the house that would address all of these issues, or many of these issues, and would have prevented the unemployment insurance from running out. the republicans in the senate didn't do anything with it and all of june, they didn't do anything with it until the last two days of july when they finally started negotiating within their own party, because there are huge differences within the republican party in the senate and with the white house. they ignored it for all of june and for most of july. they knew this deadline was coming up. today we are where we are, but it's important history. congress needs to come together

to address these issues. executive orders coming from the president will not do it. they are not sustainable. i agree that debt is a huge problem in the long term, but that stimulus money is keeping people in their houses, keeping food on tables, keeping prescriptions that people are able to still get. we need short-term relief now. the debt is a huge long-term problem that both parties, quite frankly, when they've been in the oval office, have made worse. >> harris: you know, greg, i do think it's interesting that the president has found a way to get americans to somewhat unite on the issue of what to do next, and -- forgive the term, because i know it's lunch hour in some parts of the country -- but the constipated nature, the reflexive constipation on capitol hill -- sorry i had to say it twice. they don't get anything going! [laughter] >> greg: the irony that i can bring that out of you, harris.

[laughter] >> harris: oh, goodness. >> greg: is almost as though you can see right through me, because i was actually having issues. but anyway, we won't -- okay. so, i think it's pretty amazing. we don't give america enough credit. we did something that has really never been done. we got everybody to go home and stay home and do things he wouldn't do a year ago. imagine if harris from a year ago could jump into the future now and walked on the street and say, "we got everyone to wear masks? why are people doing this to meg why is nobody in midtown? what's going on? did a bomb go off?" and you realize this is all voluntary, which is insane. i have a question, because i don't understand the debt thing. i'm ignorant on this, maybe kennedy can answer it. do we really have to worry about inflation anymore in an absurd event like this? if we are just printing money and it is stimulus, is this a

freebie?" because we aren't even talking about inflation anymore. we are expanding the pile of money, and when everything gets back to normal, it's like we just got a freebie of a trillion dollars or two. >> kennedy: there is no such thing as a freebie. there is a massive inflationary bubble that, unfortunately, will burst. you are right on. >> greg: i don't know. this is a weird environment. >> harris: great question, greg. it is a weird environment, when you talk about paying back and all of that, as marie and others on the panel have suggested. we are in that space where some people's levels of needs, food insecurity, is playing such a big role. you have to figure out how to go forward. if that is a payroll tax halt as the president's suggestion, it is movement. [laughs] i don't want to talk about movement again, but there simply

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>> harris: hurricane isaias taking aim at the new york city area, where it's expected to bring the strongest winds since super storm sandy. isaias rolled ashore as a hurricane overnight,'s bond tornadoes and dumped rain over the carolinas, virginia, and

maryland. at least one person was killed in north carolina from a possible twister. meteorologist adam klotz is tracking the storm minute-by-minute, and it is definitely headed this way. adam? >> yes, it is, harris. this is still a powerful storm. you're looking at winds at 70 miles an hour, even though are well off shore now, the center of the storm spinning just south of philadelphia. it'll continue to track to the north. everything out in front of it is where the really heavy rain and the strong winds are, and every one of those red triangles, that is a tornado reported in the last 24 hours. we will likely see more of those. most of the tornado spun up from a hurricane on the weaker side but there is a danger and we see more of those in the afternoon in the evening. this storm will no longer stick to the coast, taking an orderly route. we will watch this pass its way through pennsylvania, new jersey, getting up into new york before heading north on up into canada. but it's going to be bringing very heavy rain, and those winds

with it. no surprise here, we've got flood watches and warnings still stretching from the mid atlantic up into new england, still widespread. there will be areas with four, five, 6 inches of rain in relatively short order. when it moves into your region, heavy rain. here is your radar and i will leave you with this. putting it in motion, you see this pass on out of the area before we get into the overnight hours. it'll be a fast mover, it's a stormy talk about for days, harris, but it looks like by the time we wake up tomorrow morning we will be able to maybe pick up and see everything that's happened. back out to you. >> harris: adam klotz, thank you very much for the latest on that. a woman was stabbed in downtown portland last night. it happened during the city's 68th straight day of demonstrations. in a park, across the street from the federal courthouse that has been at the epicenter of violent protesting. police say when they were

securing the crime scene someone picked up a knife and "ran off with it." officers later ended up leaving that scene, saying a hostile crowd prevented them from investigating. there's more. president trump is defending sending in those federal agents to portland. watch the president. >> if we didn't have people that are courthouse, and they are strong, tough people, they try and be very good, believe me. if we didn't have people there, you would have your federal courthouse, $600 million building, you would have that thing burned to the ground. >> harris: hi. we went off the air for a second. i don't know if you can hear me, but we took a hit in this hurricane, now tropical storm fay. marie, i come to you. the president saying, amid all that has happened, including

reportedly evidence moved from a crime scene outside that federal courthouse, that he made the right decision to send in federal help. >> marie: harris, yeah. i will say that hurricane came through washington, d.c., where i am this morning, and it was not a fun thing to live through, let me say that. the best to all of you in new york about to get hit by it. in portland, we see these large majority of these protesters still peaceful, but these protests -- these aren't protesters, the people that do become violent are taking away from that really important message that deserves to be heard from the protesters. i don't know if the stabbing was in any way related to the demonstrations or was unfortunately an unrelated crime, but what i will say is it is so hard, because we want to keep the focus on the peaceful message the protesters who are not committing violence are having, and the portland police chief wrote a piece in "the new york times" this week talking about the line they are

trying to walk, pleading for people to not be violent. they should express themselves peacefully, because that is the message she wants people to hear from the city, harris. >> harris: i'm a little confused about how, if you were a peaceful protester at this point, you would hope to even get your message out. and what the legalities are now. we talked a lot about freedom of expression, first amendment, emily, but at the end of the day it is being, to use a legal term, quashed by the people in the streets who want to take the power away and that microphone a way to do whatever it is that they are doing that is violent and criminal. >> emily: that's exactly right, harris. that was the benefit of the declarations of riots. it enabled then the law enforcement to come in and make arrests of those individuals. i think that was an important tool utilized by the portland mayor and also in washington. i have to say that this stabbing

in portland is not unlike the situation in seattle, where two "protesters" took two guns from police vehicles. i watched that freighting video of one starting to shoot down the street. it's also not unlike the two children who were shot and killed in the autonomous zone here in seattle because of the mayor's capitulation, of which there were no police officers allowed in and there were also no emergency responders allowed to come in to treat the scene or make any type of investigation of it. i have to point out, as well, it is predictable. that is the tragedy and the larger point. all of those things are predictable. after a 68 days of a festering abscess in portland, the blame continues to lie squarely on mayor wheeler's shoulders. >> harris: wow. you know, kennedy, as we watch these scenes unfold night after night after night after night -- and i know you have family in portland specifically -- 68 days of anything is a lot. 68 days of this, in the midst of

a corona pandemic, is unfathomable, yet you don't hear the local officials really even talking about that. that's important, because now we've gone beyond that, as emily was talking about, that sort of getting your message out. now the messages violence, it involves blood, it involves a whole host of things that you would not want exchanged in a pandemic. >> kennedy: that's a great point, harris. that's a fantastic point. you don't even consider that. you got people chanting and coughing all over each other, and now you enter new fluids into that, where the most pathogen's live, and the woman who is filming it is screaming, "call the police!" and it's like, lady, you hate the police. that's why you're there. if you've got one human who has stabbed another human for god knows what reason, how is that honoring george floyd's memory? how is that, in any way,

creating an environment for equal justice under the law? it is not. they are terrorizing that part of the city, at that time of day, and the net lis nutless wod wheeler, has lost control of the city. make sure you're protesting at a time of day when the media will show up so they can tell people what it is you are burning. do it during the day. they are starting at night, they are doing it for a reason. when you go to that square, you know exactly what you're getting. you are getting chaos. then you have intermingling of legitimate protesters and rioters, and the cameras are only going to focus on the people who are trying to hurt cops, trying to burn down the courthouse, and stab each other. good job, portland. >> harris: i guess i'm even more basic than that, kennedy. i've seen people taking their

children, their pets. they kind of go out to these protests, as they should, because it's our american right to do so, but it isn't just about the cameras. i'm worried about their well-being. they get caught, and i don't know if the people who mean to do harm mean anything else. i don't think they really -- at least they don't act like they carry to that harm would come to. marie? >> marie: i think one thing we've learned, harris, throughout this portland situation, is that there are people on the streets for a lot of different reasons. some of them are focused on the message of police brutality and equal justice under the law. some are focused on creating habits, some are white supremacists trying to create havoc that gets blamed on black lives matter. there are dozens of reasons people take to the streets, and going forward i think the local leaders need to focus on the different messages, the different pockets. focus on the violence more and try to separate that out in

their response, because people are on the streets for a bunch of different reasons. it's hard to do in this setting, especially at night, as kennedy pointed out, but it's something they should focus on. >> harris: spoke to mike focus on the violence more, as marie said. so you might not want to defund the police. let's move on. new york city's health commissioner. it comes after months of tension with mayor de blasio over his handling of the coronavirus. in her resignation letter to the mayor, the doctor writes, "i leave my post today with deep disappointment that, during the most critical public health crisis in our lifetime, the health department's incomparable disease control expert was not used to the degree it could have been." wow. greg, you live in new york. i'm next door in jersey, as we taken some of the hurricane today. it sounds like there are some heavy winds blowing at city ha

city hall. >> greg: yeah, it's a lot of wind. de blasio might be the least-liked mayor in the history of the universe. if you went and looked at other planets and you discovered that they had places like new york, with mayors, they would say, "we've heard about de blasio. how do you guys get through it?" he is an absentee landlord. he has left the city and he is more interested in championing the symbolic gestures of graffiti or whatnot then actually helping the people that are dying. right now what they are doing is they are filling each other under the bus, because they know it's a disaster. the last time i checked, new york and new jersey together had more deaths than all the republican states combined. that was last week, it might've changed. they have had serious problems. a lot of it is on this guy's

shoulders. new york has to find an alternative to leftism, because they will keep winning elections if they keep giving up. >> harris: when i spoke of the hurricane, the way i look at it is, when you have a spike in crime north of 200% and the violent category, that is as deadly as anything that we can even imagine, potentially. it's a sad situation. all right, let's move on. that breaking news, no doubt, we will learn more this hour. stay where you are.

>> kennedy: president trump upping the ante as he warns about problems with mail-in voting, saying he has not ruled out signing an executive order addressing the issue, but the president did not offer any specifics. watch this. >> universal mail-in ballots is going to be a great embarrassment to our country.

i have the right to do it. we haven't gotten there yet, but we'll see what happens. >> kennedy: meantime, the present threatening to sue nevada after the governor there threatened to send mail and outside of the election. is this how we should be doing it, going state by state, county by county, and letting them decide, essentially, how to have their own voting in the fall? >> emily: absolutely, kennedy. that's what states are designed to do. they are in charge of figuring out how their citizens can vote. it would be nice if congress gave them some money to help them do that, which is what democrats have proposed in this latest release package. states need to figure out what's best for them. there is a way to do universal mail-in ballots safely and securely, but we have to start working on it now. the time to handle that and figure out the details as right now, it's not october. i also think that, because of

that, we should make sure that as many people can vote as they can. that's the goal of democracy, legally and safely. because of that, kennedy, i don't think we will know all the results on election night. president trump is trying to sow some doubt in that area, probably because he's nervous about the results. doubt is not what we need, planning is what we need right now. >> kennedy: i understand that, and i think you just contradicted yourself, because you said states should be able to decide but we need to have universal mail-in ballots. that doesn't make any sense. you can't have both things in the same sentence at the same time. it's the principle of noncontradiction. emily compagno, what are the worries about mail-in voting? because there have been irregularities in king county, and the registrar then went to l.a. county, and there have been all sorts of issues. >> emily: that's right, kennedy. i think one differential to point out here in washington,

king county, seattle, this was implemented about five years ago or more. there has been time to identify and to remedy any irregularity that occurred here. to marie's point about beginning to plan now, to me that his way too beyond the 11th hour to institute some type of national approach. i have to point out that, kennedy, as you mentioned in the beginning, the president has not mentioned specifics of any order. if you were to issue one, of course it would face a flurry of challenges by floating down mike voting rights groups. right now there are many state and federal lawsuits pending around states in the country, and i have to point out, which i think you're getting at in the beginning, as well, this runs counter, frankly, to traditional republican orthodoxy. the g.o.p. has appointed local election decisions as reasons against them supporting congressional attempts at increasing mail-in voting and

increasing security, as well. my final point is the democrats, don't forget, have attempted an inclusion of billions of dollars in this next coronavirus stimulus bill to facilitate mail-in voting. we should all be watching to that, as well. >> kennedy: greg, if democrats are in love with it and republicans hate it, doesn't that mean we naturally have some sort of a real issue here? if anything weird happens on election night, it could throw the country into a constitutional crisis. >> greg: we are already predicting that. it's not going to -- marie, unlike a lot of democrats, does kind of see what the problem is. the skepticism toward male-in his sound, but the argument is flawed if you see its corruption. it's about capacity. the u.s. mail won't be able to handle this in a timely manner, and it might not be their fault.

they'll have delays without it. if you look at the mail he looked at the hospitals during the pandemic, we need to flatten the burden of work, flatten the curve, and we haven't even started. we can't keep comparing mail-ins to absentee. there's a difference in capacity and scrutiny. there won't be scrutiny and will be overcapacity, and we'll have pallets of mail sitting outside post offices. if we couldn't plan it before, i don't think we can do it. i think it'll end up being a catastrophe. nothing to do with corruption, it has to do with capacity. >> kennedy: that might not have anything to do with corruption, marie, but how would you like to respond to greg? taking the ginsu to part of your argument. >> marie: i think there are capacity challenges, which is why we need to start working on it now. i don't think every state should go to universal mail-in. i think they could and they could do it safely if they chose

to, but everything we do, kennedy, should be designed to get more people voting. more people franchised into the system, and not have millions of americans unable to vote in such an important election. everything could be geared toward that goal. >> kennedy: i love people voting. i absolutely do. if something goes wrong, it could be catastrophic. i don't know if we can take that risk. harris is going to lead us into a discussion about school districts across the country, because they are debating how to safely resume classes this year, with dr. anthony fauci singh schools should do if they're ina coronavirus hot spot. that's next. >> the primary consideration should only be the safety, the health, and the welfare of the children as well as the teachers. ♪ there was a time when this represented the future.

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>> try and see if you can open the schools, if the infection rate is so low that there is very little chance of there being infection spread, you should feel okay about doing it. if you do start to see infections, you may need to pull back. >> kennedy: there you go. dr. anthony fauci sounding optimistic that many of america's schools can safely reopen this year. he also warned in a separate interview that areas with high coronavirus infection rates should delay in person learning. some of the nation's largest school districts have already started classes this week in some capacity while others, including the los angeles unified school district, have announced they plan to begin school remotely this year. president trump weighing in on the debate this morning, he is tweeting, "open the schools! "momentum. emily, i will start with you. what are the legal ramifications for the schools, if kids started

to get sick and their parents to the school district? >> emily: that legal liability will skyrocket if there is no protections afforded them in the law, which is something the g.o.p. especially is moving toward. i would like to point out a small but significant anecdote that sort of illustrates how many interrelated factors go into reopening the schools. they are eliminating 500 jobs at the world headquarters just outside of portland, but almost 200 of those eliminated jobs are in child care. this conversation deserves acknowledgment of so many factors that go into play, and that is why the more specific, the better for the plan for the schools to reopen safely, and also to account for all of those other interrelated factors, like the parents having jobs and the teachers having child care for their own children, et cetera. >> kennedy: ah, the teachers

and the teachers unions, marie, they have been perhaps the biggest impediment to sending kids back to school. ut l.a., the teachers union in the l.a. usd, i can't talk enough about these demands, because they're insane. they have nothing to do with learning and safety and with students. they are talking about defunding police, medicare for all, and not allowing any new charter schools to open. there have been very successful charter schools, not only in l.a. usd but across the country. parents want the choice. is keeping schools close by keeping teachers out the political goal of democrats? >> marie: the biggest impediment to students going back to schools is the fact that we have not gotten the coronavirus under control in many parts of the country. it isn't the teachers unions, it's not the schools themselves, it's not democrats. teachers and parents are terrified in many of these places. they want to know what will

happen if their kids go back to school, and as soon as someone gets infected, as soon as a teacher gets infected, as soon as a family member gets infected, what happens? the challenge is, i think president trump wants a separate reopening schools from a broader plan to confront the virus. it's like the economy, he just wants you to be open and get things back to normal. believe me, we all do. but it has to be coupled with a strategic plan in these places to flatten the curve and it hasn't been. until it is, we can't open school safely in their entirety. >> kennedy: that's a one-size-fits-all solution. pretty much everyone disagrees with you, marie. i'm not talking about republicans, i'm talking about the american association of pediatrics. greg, take it away. >> greg: and no one has ever said we are expecting things to go back to normal. that is still in chapter one mentality. "oh, my god, people are going to die!"

we are in another chapter. they are trying to figure out how we can deal with something that is novel, that is creating a brave, strange new world for all of us, and we understand that the plan has to have adjustments. what found she was saying is what we already know. because this terrain is unknown and new, every decision or path you take has to be or could be reversed. you never want to take a path that is permanent. whatever you do can't be changed based on what happens if it's a hot spot and whatnot, but the good news is this is, again, an opportunity for innovation. i've said this before. if you take the s.a.t. question framework, peloton is to the gym the way blank is to school, and you fill in the space, featuring talented performers, not just teachers, but persuasive, entertaining teachers that make it worthwhile to learn at home, you will change education for

good. he would eliminate the teachers unions for good, and b might solve a lot of these problems in the united states. from the violence and the lack of impulse control we see everywhere on the streets. it all comes down to education and we might actually solve it in the weirdest way during a pandemic. >> kennedy: we owe it to our kids to rethink education like that. you're absolutely right, greg. we'll hear all about your new book coming up next. stay with us. [ heavy breathing ] allergies with nasal congestion overwhelming you?

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>> harris: greg gutfeld has a brand-new book out, it's called "the plus: self-help for people who hate self-help." greg, tell us about it. >> greg: i was trying to figure out what that hardest task is for someone who is super cynical to undertake. it's writing a self-help book. i laugh at them while i'm at the airport. i can't imagine reading one, blah, blah, blah, but then i thought, "you know what? what if i tried to write one?" i thought about how all the books i've written focus on a certain kind of dilemma, and i write about it, but where are the solutions? i came up with a solution on my own about certain things in your life, how to deal with social media, mobs, interactions with obnoxious people like me,

and i won't tell you what the secret is because then no one will buy the book, but essentially it's a very simple strategy in slightly making your life better every single day to a point where you make huge leaps over a period of a month or two. >> harris: you know, i think very few people know the detail that you that i learned recently, and that is that you really do -- year, like, really cheerful guide. [laughs] like i know you come across as somebody who is a little antagonistic, a curmudgeon. i'm not throwing anything people don't know, here. >> greg: no, no. >> harris: you're a smiley guy. you're like an m.o. g. >> greg: here's the problem -- and you can talk to your producers about this, i have the spirits of antagonism, and they kind of float away and then back to normal. it's almost like i have tourette's of emotions. in a weird way, this book is about that problem. it's about my own impulse

control. it's what i'm about to say to somebody that i work with, a+ or a minus. or what i tweet. is it a plus or minus? what i text. the book is directed at kind of making me less impulsive, and to control my own impulsivity. once you have more options in your life and you are more successful, you can throw the impulse control out the window. you don't need to control your impulses. what do you hear about ellen right now? that she's mean and that she's a jerk. as she got more powerful. we don't know if it's true, but it could be that, as you have more options, you become kind of a jerk. i'm trying to reverse it if it's possible. >> harris: wow. kennedy, i've got to come to you. just a quick reaction to that. >> kennedy: i really like what greg had to say, just sort of tagging on, one of the main points of the book is if you're not happy as you're getting older you are doing it wrong. it's a great way to have this

self-examination, and finding wisdom enjoy as you age. i think it's great. and he said -- very good advice. [laughter] >> harris: you have more answers as you get older. hopefully you can find happiness as one of the things that you are looking for. self-help. even for those who hate self-help. greg gutfeld, it's going to be a best seller. veteran homeowners: why refinance now? because record low mortgage rates have dropped even lower. and now you can save $3000 a year. veterans can shortcut the process with newday's va streamline refi. there's no appraisal, no income verification, and not a single dollar out of pocket. rates are at the lowest they've been in our lifetimes. one call can save you $3000 a year.

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hopefully everyone will stay safe, stay dry. listen to all the alerts, keep it here for fox news. we got so much ahead, including harris, who is up right now. >> this is an unlawful assembly. >> harris: "outnumbered overtime" now, portland police declared an unlawful assembly as protesters hit the streets for the 68th street night, reportedly throwing bottles and toy pigs that police officers. seattle protesters marched to the home of the city police chief over the weekend, outraged the city council failed to approve a 50% police department budget cut this year. one councilmember also called out her colleagues for backing off their supports for those cuts, saying, "they drowned the discussion of our movement's 50% defined proposal in specious arguments and outright lies.