they are not sure there are enough pooches to get a handle on the pandemic. >> dana: greg, thank you. thanks for joining us. i am dana perino. john roberts, you think dogs can do it? >> your dog jasper has a nose for wine. the wine you gave he for christmas is delicious. >> dana: have a great show. >> thanks. >> i am john roberts in for bill hemmer. president trump will meet with arizona's governor at the white house. arizona has 180,000 coronavirus cases more than all but 7 other states but the health director says the number of new cases is declining. and another topic. voting by mail. the president's campaign is suing nevada for its mail-in ballot plan. but the president said it's safe

to vote by mail in florida. we start live from the white house. >> arizona saw a huge spike in cases after the governor lifted the stay at home order in may. the trump administration has sent resources to the state and the outbreak is better. that will be a big focus when president trump sits down with in a few minutes. >> in hot spots we have seen slow improvements. arizona's weekly case count have dropped 37%. the governor and the state have done a fantastic job. down 37%. >> the other issue that may come up is mail-in voting. the trump campaign is suing arizona's neighbor, nevada, over its new mail-in voting laws. but president trump is encouraging mail-in voting in florida. on the surface, it may seem

hypocritical. if you dig in deeper, you will find that mail-in voting in florida, what florida is doing is different than nevada. in florida voters have to request a ballot. in nevada, they just passed a law on monday which would allow the state to just send out these ballots to all voters in the state who are active and reg sistered. that's what president trump has a problem with. they only have 90 days to put in place. the president tweeted that arizona has zero infrastructure for mail-in voting and it will take months or years to figure out. florida send in your ballots. the president has been railing against the postal service saying it doesn't have the capacity needed to handle this surge in mail-in voting. that prompted a sharp response

from hillary clinton last night who tweeted. i fear republicans sabotage including slowing down mail delivery is a trump strategy to make voting by mail more difficult. request your ballots and return them as early as you can." there is a concern on both sides of the aisle. the post master general is on capitol hill to address these concerns with the democratic leadership and the white house chief of staff. >> going into effect in nevada over the opposition of the secretary of state who is a republican and their governor is a democrat. for all of the talk about mail-in voting there is still confusion about it. laws vary by state. absentee voting which americans use every cycle is different

than universal mail-in voting. david is reporting live from virginia this afternoon. hi, david. >> the postal service will take heat. they are in the red coming to money. looking for more money to handle ballots. the president confused many with that tweet. i want to put it up. mail-in voting is when registered voters get a live ballot in the mail. the absentee is when the voter requests a ballot. 8 states will mail live ballots to voters. several states joined the list because of pandemic.

21 states require no excuse for an absentee ballot application and 5 states allow covid-19 to be used for the reason. the president obviously mail-in voting may cause frauds. but election experts disagree and cite controls in place. >> there are a huge number of checks in place to make sure that attempts at fraud won't succeed. i worry more about an electronic voting machine without a paper trail than a mail-in ballot. >> she talked about florida. you look at washington state. a democratic governor and a republican secretary of state and has been secretary of state since 1965. they have done all mail-in voting. they first started doing it in 1983 with a special election. >> john: david, thanks.

let's bring in the political panel. donna brazil, and chris a fox news editor. these are the states that will mass out ballots: of those, really only colorado is potentially in play for president trump and they long had mail-in voting. donna, do you see any problem they will be doing that this year? >> absolutely not. look, earlier today senator durbin put forward a bill to enshrine this in the u.s. constitution. it is not. elections are run by the state. i have respect for the election

officials who have to do it. the post office needs resources and we need to provide resources so people can get their ballots back on time. >> john: nevada is in play as well. the rest of the states are democrat. chris, and utah. the president is making the differentiation here to say there is a difference between requesting an absentee ballot and just mailing them all out. does he have a point? >> what nevada is doing is dubious to say the least. in the middle of a pandemic and you are making a big change. those 5 states you mentioned including utah have a great track record for running all mail elections. everybody gets a ballot. they have measures in place. nevada is new to this.

and i think it is highly questionable whether you want to make a big change in the middle of a paged. -- pandemic. it seems more responsible to say we will send everybody an application at home so they know that if they want to vote absentee they can with no problem. they fill it out and send it back in. one thing people have to remember, every kind of voting is subject to fraud. we saw it in north carolina after the 2018 election when a race was thrown out. voter fraud is a real thing. it's all in how states and local officials deal with the process. >> john, 143 convictions over the last 20 years. voting is not a criminal enterprise where people want to vote 4 times. chris is right.

in north carolina that was a republican official. we need to be make voting more accessible to more americans. early votes. have an election holiday. give people the opportunity to catch their ballots that ensures integrity of our election. mail-in voting versus absentee voting which in many ways are the same thing. make it easier for americans to cast their ballots. we are a democracy. >> john: this might nullify the effect of the debate on the election. is that fair? >> what does fair have anything to do with anything in an

election. voter fraud, west virginia and florida you have found the right people to talk to about this subject. i don't know to whom it would be more unfair to have the first presidential debate take place after early voting starts. in the united states we moved towards convenience voting. in 2018, 60% of votes were by mail. the coronavirus intense mid it. >> john: a search for survivors in beirut. what we are learning about the chemical behind the blast. as president trump calls for schools to reopen one large district decides to keep students at home and online. stay with us.

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killed 135 people and injured thousands more. investigators are looking at why there were thousands of tons of ammonia nitrate stored in beirut's port. the search for survivors continues. trey has more from the middle east newsroom. >> john, good afternoon. the scenes out of beirut today are horrific. dozens of people are still missing. the red cross is noting more than 135 people killed yesterday and thousands injured. rescue workers worked through the night to find survivors in the rubble. picking through twisted medal and glass and wood. one team found a man who was trapped for more than 16 hours. he was given oxygen. they pulled him out of a collapsed building and brought him to the hospital. beirut entered a 2 week state of emergency. hospitals are overwhelmed.

last night patients were treating in the parking lots of some facilities. you can see how strong the explosion was. a priest was live streaming a mass and pieces of the ceiling above him were starring to fall. it was felt more than 100 miles away in cypress. this is the governor of beirut you see here. he was crying comparing the devastation to that the nuclear blast in hiroshima. benjamin netanyahu offered his condolences and israel will provide aid to lebanon. the explanation of what caused this explosion is relateed to a stockpile of ammonia nitrate. there is no evidence there was a bomb as president trump claimed yesterday.

if you go up the coast, 130 miles, you reach the city of beirut. it would not like like tel aviv. most lights are out. they are dealing with rolling blackouts for months and protests and hungry people. this explosion is only making it worse. >> john: listed among the top non-nuclear explosions this world has ever seen. u.s. officials tell fox news there is no evidence to support president trump's claim that the explosion in beirut was a bomb. mark said most believe it was an accident. let's bring in the former national security spokesman for president trump. do you agree no evidence it's anything but an accident? do we have any idea how it happened in the first place? >> well, from what i read,

a ship carrying this large shipment several years ago. it was disabled and could not leave. the material was off loaded and put into a warehouse. officials have worried about this for years saying we have to get this out of here. this dragged on for sen years. -- 7 years. it was an accident waiting to happen for 7 years. this is a troubled country and it has been for 3 decades. more than that. since 1979, iran and hezbollah destabilized lebanon. it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that the material is there for 7 years. people learn about it. from what i read ammonia nitrate is dangerous, but you can't just drop a lit cigarette and light

it on fair. -- on fire. i don't think we will know for a while. this country's government doesn't control that well. i think the government itself will have a hard time getting a handle on this and american intelligence will be looking at it too. any time something happens in lebanon, as you pointed out the economic devastation. this country has been racked by terrorism, civil war and economic deprivation for decades. out of that it's hard to find the truth. >> john: there was an initial explosion. perhaps was close enough to the ammonia nitrate. let's move to, to tiktok. a big topic of discussion. is it a national security threat? is president trump right trying to find an american buyer for it

and get it out of chinese hands? >> yes, to both questions. look, this is the kind of frivolous app for short and humorous videos enjoyed by kid. a lot of big social media start out as fun things. facebook was to connect you with your college roommates. twitter was supposed to be stream of consciousness and now they control a vast amount of the information economy. the other larger problem is there lot of chinese tentacles in the u.s. industry and visitors. lots of espionage. i think the united states should be focussing on scaling that back and not on legislate it grow. i think -- letting it grow. i think the president is right.

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nothing unless they get a higher salary than the people who are still working. this is not just bad economics if you are trying to reopen a country, it's simply unfair. >> we won't strike a deal unless we extend the unemployment benefits that kept 12 million americans out of poverty. >> john: one of the biggest sticking points in the fight over coronavirus relief. the extra $600 in relief that expired. democratic leaders are meeting with white house officials again. today a new face at the meeting. the postal service general. chad, what do we know? >> they are trying to get a deal in form by friday. he is there because democrats want to add 10 to $20 billion to this bill for the postal service serve for mail-in voting and the viability of the pofrlts during the pandemic. >> there i >> there is a movement for a moratorium on evictions. the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell needs to sell a revised extension of jobless aid to senate republicans. >> republicans want to keep providing it. >> sticking points in these talks, nutrition aid and state

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trees fell across the system's bus network. mayor bill de blasio said the city will set up check points to enforce the governors's covid-19 orders. new york requiring visitors from 34 states to quarantine for 2 weeks. it will send a powerful message about the quarantine order. and the health and human service secretary will visit taiwan to meet with the president there. >> ♪ >> you heard about the interview, you got upset, didn't you? >> i was upset that direct comey did not cordinate that with us. >> did comey go rogue? >> you could use that term.

>> john: sally yates testing about the russian probe. he said former fbi director coma is not authorize an interview of michael flynn and testified that former president obama and vice-president biden did not attempt to influence the investigation of flynn. jillian? >> lots of fireworks. the ranking members did not agree to what they are investigating. republicans say the obama administration spied on the trump campaign. democrats say the real underlying crime here that needs to be dug into is the trump campaign's misconduct. sally yates confirmed she would not have signed off on the fisa warrant for carter page in 2016 if she knew then what she knows now about the steel dossier. >> i certainly would not have signed it.

>> do you agree with me it contained incorrect information? >> i know that now. >> that's all i am trying to say. >> yates agreed that the former fib director james comey went rogue and criticized his failure to share information about general michael flynn before the january 25th oval office meeting. >> this was the first i heard of the calls between flynn and kislyak. i was really surprised that general flynn engaged in these discussions. i was irritated with director comey for not telling me about the calls. i asked him why this was the first i was hearing this. >> despite this, she said looking back, she obviously the fbi's interviews of flynn were appropriate. listen. >> believe there was

a legitimate basis for the interview? >> yes, i do. >> democrat feinstein said this investigation is just a distraction from the trump campaign misconduct. >> the mueller investigation uncovereded 120 contacts between the trump campaign and individuals linked to russia. revealing that the trump campaign knew about, welcomed and expected it would benefit from russia's interference. >> sources tell us to expect more cross-fire hurricane hearings. lindsey graham will call up to 48 more witnesses should he want to today. sally yates was just number 2. >> john: jillian, thanks.

president trump met with the governor of arizona to talk about that state's coronavirus response. they took questions moments ago in the oval office. among them, this idea of massive mail-in voting. let's listen. >> [silence]. >> john: we should have this in a moment. >> [silence]. >> john: [laughing]. all right. we are cueing that up tape. the two of them talked about mail-in voting. now we have it. >> mr. president, is mail-in voting safe in arizona as it is in florida? >> i have not discussed it with the governor. floridas that done a very good job. in nevada it would be a disaster enemy combatant new york it's been a disaster and many other places. -- you know what is going on in new york. they have to have a new

election. you have no idea fraud. patterson, new jersey, 20% of the vote is tainted. you can't have that. absentee voting, great. mail-in voting where they mail millions of ballots to people, you will never know who won the election. you can't have that. and nevada is a big state. it's an important state. it's a very political state and the governor happens to be a democrat. i don't believe the post office can be set up. they were given no notice. you are talking about millions of votes. it's a catastrophe waiting to happen. look at the vote that took place on a simple congressional district in an area that should do it easily in manhattan. it's a total -- what happened it's a nightmare. nobody has ever seen anything

like it. look at new jersey. you will never know who the winner is, but the winner will be me. we will see you at 5:30 to talk about it more. we are proud of the governor and proud of arizona. in addition the people had to help you and they did. >> i have a question [inaudible]. >> in arizona we will do it right. it will be free and fair. it will be difficult if not impossible to cheat and easy to vote. 78% of the citizens already vote by mail in arizona. we have been doing this since 1992. over the course of decades, we have established a system that works and can be trusted. we are 90 days before the election. in arizona, early ballots will

be mailed in 60 days. this is no time to experiment. this is a time to go with the tried and true. in arizona our system works well. >> [inaudible]. >> our state has been a model for this type of voting for providing options and choice to our citizens. we won't disenfranchise anyone. we allocated an official $9 million for election day voters can be in proper sanitized places that are well staffed on election day. we want everyone that wants to vote can vote and they will in arizona. >> if you look at what they are doing in nevada, no signature. there is no verification of signature. i don't know if you do that. they don't know who will sign

theirs. you don't have to verify the signature. right there it's defective. two votes in a single envelope. this will be a disaster like never before. arizona has been doing this for a long time and it's been refined. even if nevada wanted to do it well, they would not have enough time. i am sure the post office doesn't have enough time. millions of ballots coming out of nowhere. voting starts in a short period of time inform florida they have done a good job and in arizona they have done a good job. they have been refining it for years. think of this: no verification of the signature? who will sign it? they don't even verify who will sign it. i am sure the courts will treat is fairly. let's see what happens. thank you very much.

>> [shouting questions]. >> i will talk at 5:30. >> john: the president there with the governor of arizona talking about the problem in nevada they put in an emergency bill and mass mailing out ballots across the state. the president arguing they are doing it too quickly and they don't have verification systems in place like in arizona and colorado and florida after a challenge to the system it by democrats. the president is comfortable with mass absentee ballots by request but not comfortable with nevada and california. more later this afternoon. a photo of students without mask in a crowded hallway raises concerns as states consider reopening schools. that's next. to severe psoriasis,

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>> ♪ >> john: a school district in atlanta facing questions after a photo showed students in a hallway shoulder to shoulder. they began in person classes on monday with masks optional. they said the students need more than a few minutes in the hall to catch the virus from others. some states and cities are talking about reopening schools. some of the latest confirmed cases have been student and staff at schools that reopened classroom. the number of total infections nearing 5 million in the united states. let's bring in this doctor from harvard's global health institute. the president insists that students need to get back in

schools. is that reasonable or unreasonable? >> first thanks for having me on. we all want kids to get back in school. as a dad of 3 kids, there is no question kids need to get back, but they need to get back safely. that's the most important issue. it's how do we get them back to school safely? >> john: let's put up that picture again in the high school in georgia. you see all of the students crowded into the hallway together. the county superintendent said they need more than just a few minutes in that environment to pass the virus from one to another. is that true? >> that's not how i would look at it. i think that picture makes me nervous. in all of those kids were making a mask it would be make a muncipaling difference. -- a huge difference. getting kids back is tricky business. we can do it but masks will be

a critical part of getting kids back to school safely. >> john: the president says the reason why there are so many cases in the united states because we have the best testing in the world. we passed 61 million terrorists. -- tests. next is india at 11 million. maybe we are identifying more cases. but also this idea of do we have enough testing yet or are there still problems with it? >> on a per capita basis tests have many more tests than we do. more testing would not lead to more hospitalizations and explain why we have more deaths than any other country. the fundamental issue is we have more cases because we have more infection. it's not the testing. there is a benefit of a debate. i argue we don't have enough tests and they are coming back

too slow. the administration said we are fine in testing. instead of listening to us listen to the people on the ground. folks in houston and in florida have to wait days to get a test back. our testing infrastructure is not working. we have to do better. >> john: looking at getting students back to school and people back to work, there is an idea we can reduce infections. but with flare-ups in this country there is no sign this virus is going away. it will take a vaccine before we can really get back to normal? >> yes, there are things we can do to get much of it back. australia's big flair up was 700 cases. we have 50,000 yesterday. what they are calling a flair up

would not even be on our radar. if we had fabulous testing and everybody wore a mask we could get 80 or 90%. the last 10% we have to wait for a vaccine. right now we are not doing enough to get our lives back. i would like for us to do more while we wait for the vaccine. >> john: the cases are still high at this point. you wonder what will portend for the fall. thanks for joining us. see you again soon. one airport finding a new way to detect coronavirus with man's best friend. that's next. ta-da! [2. pay for what you need? given my unique lifestyle, that'd be perfect! let me grab a pen and some paper. know what? i'm gonna switch now. just need my desk...

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passenger, bring to an isolation room and have dogs sort it out. we have been tracking the program here in the u.k. the government spending half a million dollars on that as well as other programs including at the university of pennsylvania in philadelphia to get people working and moving and getting going again during this era of covid-19. the experts have no doubt that the dogs can do. the only question is how many dogs would be needed to do this? it could help people to get moving again. >> john: remarkable stuff. greg, thanks. the university of connecticut cancelling its 2020 football season. the school's athletic director said the virus puts players at an unacceptable level of risk.

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