>> that's all, folks, set your dvr for 6:00 a.m. eastern every morning. nap time for me. >> sandra: portland marking its 69th straight night of protests. protestors attacked the east police precinct there. officers declaring a riot before using tear gas to disperse the crowd. an update moments from now. another fox news alert. facebook and twitter squaring off against president trump. both platforms have removed the same message posted by the president and his campaign saying it contained misinformation about the coronavirus. good morning, everyone, i'm sandra smith. >> trace: good morning. i'm trace gallagher.

they claim what the president said about kids being almost immune from from coronavirus was simply not true. the campaign is firing back. >> sandra: we're live on the north lawn. what is the latest on this stand-off? >> the white house insists that big tech is picking on president trump. a narrative they've been pushing for several months now. the first time facebook has ever done anything like this completely pulling down a post. twitter has put up warnings over the past few months about some misinformation. twitter froze the trump campaign account until it removed a video. the ko*nltall post surrounded a comment the president made on "fox & friends" yesterday morning. both social media giants argue what the president said was misinformation about kids contracting covid-19, listen. >> president trump: this thing is going away. it will go away like things go away. my view is schools should be opened. if you look at children, children are almost -- i would

almost say definitely but almost immune from this disease. >> in a statement to fox news facebook wrote the video includes false claims that a group of people is immune from covid-19, a violation of our policies around harmful misinformation. twitter said it's in violation of the twitter rules on covid-19 disinformation. the owner will be required to remove it before they can post again. >> he is stating a fact that -- another display of silicon valley's bias against the president. more pull and tug between big tech over the next few months. both of these organizations seem to be getting more aggressive. >> sandra: this debate and fight over mail-in voting seems to continue. what is the president having to say about that? >> the president believes there is something called universal

mail-in voting when ballots are sent unsolicited to million else of americans. they show up in somebody's in box. washington, oregon, hawaii, california, utah, colorado, vermont, the district of columbia. more may be added. he talks about absentee voting when a registered voter fills out an actual application. more aggressive approach. answers a few questions, then they get a ballot. the president is making a stark difference between the two. also suing the state of nevada because they are the latest state you just saw on the map to be sending out unsolicited ballots. many people at the white house arguing this is not the time to change the entire voting system in the middle of a pandemic just a few months before the election. sandra. >> sandra: ed rollins will join us next hour to break it down. we'll have much more this hour on all of it. later in the hour kellyanne conway will join us for official reaction from the

white house. stay tuned for that. >> trace: more unrest in portland overnight. protestors gathered outside a police precinct. police declared a riot after some protesting pulling plywood off windows and doors. officers moved in to break up the crowd. portland police chief says the nightly violence is marring the message of peaceful protests. jonathan hunt live in los angeles. what more can you tell us about last night? >> it was the 69th consecutive night of protests in portland although it's important to note off the top the protests are no longer centered on the federal courthouse since federal agents drew down their numbers under a deal between oregon's governor and the department of homeland security but it has shifted locations for now. police and protestors clashing last night around a police precinct where demonstrators

started fires, erected barricades. spray painted security cameras and pointed green lasers at cameras and police officers. eventually police declared a riot. that is a step that enables them to order the crowd to disperse and take action to enforce the disperseal order. portland police say they used tear gas and other crowd control munitions to do so. in another incident tuesday night a pickup truck accelerated into the crowd. at one point pushing a riderless motorcycle in front of it. it is not clear whether the truck driver was deliberately driving at the protestors, police or was simply disoriented and panicked. no one was injured. driver was interviewed by police and released without charge. portland police chief says he believes the violence is hurting the black lives matter cause and what he called his beautiful, vibrant city. >> everyone from the person who

owns a mom and pop store to the big business owners, faith leaders all the way up to elected officials to really send a strong message that enough is enough. this is not forwarding the goals of things that are going to lead to better outcomes for people of color. >> portland police have arrested more than 400 people since late may. the federal agents i mentioned now largely withdrawn from the streets arrested at least 94 people through july 30th, trace. >> trace: on it goes. jonathan hunt live for us in los angeles. thank you. >> sandra: seattle's city council voting unanimously to reduce the size of the police department. cutting the jobs of up to 100 officers through layoffs and attrition. final vote on the proposal is expected next week. the mayor and police chief both oppose the move. it comes as protestors have pushed to defund the police but

the council rejected calls to cut the department's remaining 2020 budget by 50%. >> trace: the former atlanta police officer charged with killing brooks has filed a lawsuit over his firing targeting the city of atlanta and the mayor. he claims his dismissal violated his constitutional rights as well as city code. he faced 11 charges including felony murder related to the june 12th shooting. dash kam video shows brooks grab a taser from one of the officers and shot after firing the weapon at officers and trying to run away. >> people are running away from comey like he has the plague. rosenstein said he wouldn't have signed the warrant. yates said he set up flynn to as you say manufacture a crime.

>> sandra: lindsey graham slamming former f.b.i. director james comey after former deputy attorney general sally yates testimony on the russia probe saying she was irritated to comey after he interviewed michael flynn without her authorization. what else did we learn during her testimony? >> well, we learned a lot starting with the admission of sally yates telling lawmakers the former f.b.i. director failed to follow procedures in the flynn interview. >> i was upset that director comey didn't coordinate that with us and acted unilaterally. >> did comey go rogue? >> i would use that term, yes. >> she defended the f.b.i.'s questioning of flynn out of a counter intelligence concern based on his contact with the russian ambassador. >> legitimate basis for the interview? >> yes, i do.

>> what was the basis? >> we had evidence the russians were attempting to influence the election. >> the election was over. >> she was grilled about her knowledge of the steele dossier to show fisa warrants that led to the surveillance of carter page. >> do you regret the fact you signed applications that contained false and misleading material? >> i certainly regret that the department of justice with the f.b.i. fisa applications that were inaccurate. >> a lot there. next up fox news is told chairman graham plans to call comey and andrew mccabe in september. unclear what date as we await u.s. attorney john durham's investigation into the origins of the russia probe. we expect that by the end of the summer. his findings will be interesting as he has the power to criminally charge if he sees fit. as for general flynn, he remains in legal limbo. a federal appeals court in dc

will here argument over the doj's decision to dismiss the case against flynn next tuesday. both parties being told to prepare for questions over judicial impartiality. we'll stay tuned to . that >> sandra: griff jenkins, thank you. trace. >> trace: travelers entering new york city from 35 states will now have to pass checkpoints at key entry spots as part of the state's 14-day coronavirus mandate. >> the checkpoints will send a very powerful message this quarantine law is serious and important and crucial and people have to follow it. even if we won't be able to reach every single person at a checkpoint i think it will help get the message across. >> trace: alex hogan is live in new york city. how is this working out so far? >> just like what here at penn station the new checkpoints are in place to stop many of the travelers coming to new york to ask them some of these questions. the new york mayor saying in

the last eight weeks the infection rate has remained under 3% so to prevent it from coming up people coming from hot spots need to self-isolate. >> i understand the absolute serious nature of this pandemic. we need to insure visitors in new york as returning home are taking the necessary precautions to limit the spread of this disease. >> travelers from 35 states or territories must quarantine for 14 days. for weeks regional airports have required passengers to share personal information for contact trainings. this is the first time we'll see stops on the streets. new checkpoints at bridges, tunnels, train stations to enter new york city. there is some reported confusion over how all of this will work and how different agencies will handle it. the checkpoints could change location or depending on the day vary how many cars are stopped to keep traffic flowing. but this will act as a reminder to take this public health

crisis seriously. the city says 1/5 of new covid cases in new york are now out of state travelers. they offer food delivery, help with medication or even getting in connection with teledoctors. there are some exemptions to the mandatory quarantine for essential personnel coming here. failing to fill out the forms or failing to quarantine could result in $10,000 in fines. trace. >> trace: live for us in new york, thank you. >> sandra: fox news alert more than a million people in the dark after tropical storm isaias downed power lines up and down the east coast. how long will it take for some to get the lights back on? plus i'll buy you a drink says andrew cuomo asking residents to come back to new york city. >> i say you have to come back. when are you coming back?

we'll go to dinner. i'll buy you a drink. come over, i'll cook.

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>> trace: the aftermath from tropical storm isaias continues to be felt up and down the east coast. at least nine people were killed when the storm slammed

the eastern seaboard. more than a million and a half people remain in the dark and it could be a while until they get the lights back on. >> we're just hearing it will be sunday afternoon before the power is restored. we're fine for now but i'm lining up my take-out meals. >> trace: the fdny releasing this intense video taken during the storm. watch. the video shows crew members battling gigantic waves rescuing two stranded boaters in queens. it was one of several water rescues around new york city. >> sandra: fox news alert and new jobless numbers are out. nearly 1.2 million americans filed claims last week. that is down slightly from 1.4 million people two weeks ago. let's bring in maria bartiromo anchor of sunday morning futures. had fun when you rang the bell

earlier this week. you look at these numbers. the big question for the american people are things getting better or worse? which is it? >> you know what happened, going into july, sandra, we did have a bit of a break to the rebound because of these new spikes that we saw around the country. so we did see rebound numbers in may and june and that hit retail sales. it also hit jobs and we did see the beginnings of a recovery. we are now looking at a weak spot in july as a result of what happened in the last month or so with spikes and this new cautiousness that people have been approaching going back to work with. so i think that now tomorrow we'll get the jobs numbers from the government. we probably will see a weaker spot. we may not see much job creation at all in july. given the amount of stimulus thrown at this economy you should expect that we'll continue the rebound after july. in fact, most people i've

spoken with are still expecting 20% growth number in the third quarter and a 20% overall growth in the second half of the year. this as one -- i spoke with mark sdandy from moody's saying it was arigt met i can. in the second quarter we saw 32.9% contraction. it gets you back to growth in the second half of the year. we expect a weak spot for tomorrow's numbers but we're expecting growth the second half of the year. the following after that, that all depends on where this virus goes next and whether or not we are seeing things ramp up again in terms of spikes and whether or not we start seeing people begin to put their toe in the water and come back to work. so next couple of months should be okay in terms of the recovery. 2021 is what we're focused on now to see where the virus goes and where we are in terms of a vaccine. >> sandra: seems markets are

focusing in on a timeline for a vaccine. you look at the dow topping 27,000 this morning. barely in the green but still it's up near record highs again. nasdaq hitting record highs. maria, i thought of you when i heard the governor yesterday and his plea to get new yorkers back in this city. it is a ghost town here. here he is saying i'll buy you a drink, come on back. >> i talk to people all day long in the hampton's house, who also lived here. or in their hudson valley house. or in there connecticut weekend house. and i say you have to come back. when are you coming back? we'll go to dinner. i'll buy you a drink. come over, i'll cook. they're not coming back right now. you know what else they're thinking? if i stay there, they pay a lower income tax. because they don't pay the new york city surcharge. >> sandra: bingo, where is the

addressing of the violence and the spike we're seeing in the city? where is that? he has to address the fact he has lawmakers banging on his door to raise taxes on those highest earners. what is going to bring them back? are they coming back, maria? >> that's exactly right, sandra. what's going on in new york is more than just this virus. what's going on in new york has to do with the bail reform law where there is no bail. you get arrested for robbery, whatever it is, assault, you go, you get processed and you get right back on the streets and likely you'll commit another crime. new york's wealthy upper east side reports a shocking 286% increase in robberies, armed gunmen holding up residents feet from their homes of millionaires and billionaires. the people with money in new york are taking it and getting out of the city not just because of covid and because of

the reaction to covid but more so because of the crime and because of the homelessness on the street. this goes way beyond what we have just experienced. this goes right to policy, tax policy, homeless policy, housing policy. that's a huge reason that new yorkers are not going back to new york. he is going to need more than dinner and a drink in order to get people back to new york. he needs changes in policy to get people to have that confidence to go back. >> sandra: he made an admission in the press conference yesterday. a single percent of new york's population pays half the state's taxes and they're the most mobile people in the planet. so they can go anywhere they want and if they aren't going to be treated well or feel safe they'll go somewhere else and they're doing it. maria, great to see you. >> you, too, thanks. >> trace: police under fire and feeling under attack as they deal with everything from riots to calls for defunding their department. how they are responding and what it means for crime in our

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plywood off windows and doors. the police chief saying the nightly violence is marring the message of peaceful protests. >> trace: more than 700,000 deaths worldwide from coronavirus, 19 million confirmed cases. the united states, brazil, india and russia with the highest cases. >> sandra: facebook and twitter deleted a video of president trump calling it misinformation. we'll talk to kellyanne conway live from the white house in just a moment. >> trace: following the recent riots in minneapolis more than 20% of police officers there have started the process to apply for permanent disability with most cases related to ptsd and we're hearing similar stories in cities across the country. mike tobin has more on this troubling trend. he is live for us in chicago. mike. >> that's right. update you with the fact the charter commission in minneapolis took a vote last night that will keep disbanding the police off the november

ballot and block the city council's efforts to get rid of the police force. getting rid of the police in minneapolis is happening anyway with a significant segment of the population and city leadership turned against them cops are leaving the job. a lot don't have a choice. a lawyer representing police officers in minneapolis says following the george floyd riots and surrender of the third precincts up of 200 of the 800 cops on force have started the process applying for permanent disability. most cases are for ptsd. the lawyer says it's not a case which they've had enough for choosing disability to walk off the job. they need to be diagnosed by to psychologists before they even start the application. >> many of my officers have served in afghanistan and iraq and they've said that what they experienced following the george floyd killing was far greater, far worse, far more intense. >> in chicago more than a dozen

police officers have committed suicide since 2017. the most recent case was at the end of the july. deputy chief shot himself in the chest. police union in chicago says cops are seeking early retirement with such haste some aren't waiting until they qualify for medical benefits in early retirement. los angeles could not supply a number specific to the police force bust a lawyer representing first responders said early retirement is spiking. the city has early retirement for all public employees was up 50% in june. seattle the head of the police officers guild he fears a day when there won't be enough officers to answer the call. trace. >> trace: mike tobin live in chicago. thank you. >> have you taken a cognitive? >> no, i haven't taken a test. why the hell would i take a test? come on, man. that's like saying before you got into this program you take a test where whether you're taking cocaine or not.

are you a joni's? >> that's joe biden ripping into an reporter after being asked about taking a cognitive test yesterday. there is an argument about mental acuity are fair game reading. it's the campaign issue that can't be ignored. bill mcgurn is the main street columnist for the wall street jurnall. it touched a nerve. we mentioned the "new york post." quoting here, he might be riding high in the polls but joe biden's mental acuity is increasingly an issue and growling at reporters who ask about it is no way to alleviate voter concerns. you wouldn't think it from the rosie media narrative of biden is a fatally flawed candidate who will struggle to make it through one debate against trump let alone three. your thoughts on that, bill. >> i think she is largely right. we all watched the primary debates and a lot of us watched

wondering if joe biden was going to get through them. he did but it was like watching a guy in a tight rope and wondering whether he will spill on the other side. they seem to be increasing. this is the most important job in the world. of course a question about whether a candidate is up to it is going to be at the top of the list. now, there is no test. no one is going to force him to take a mental acuity test or something. he has to persuade the american people he is up to it. he is going to be going up against some very tough people and this is a very fair question. so what he has to do is not take this or that test but persuade the american people that these fears are overblown and that he is up to it. i think he will have a hard time. i think it's clear democrats don't think he is up to it because they're all telling him to not debate coming up with all the reasons why we shouldn't have one-on-one debates. >> trace: you mentioned democrats there. you go back a year to the primaries, bill.

you had castro, booker who were questioning his mental acuity back then and they were criticized for it. so clearly, yeah, it's coming from both sides. >> right. it's going to be a big question and getting through the debates is tough. he largely got through the primary debates to the surprise sometimes of people. but he did get through. but look, he is raising the questions himself. look, i think the other problem that he has is his best case is look, i'm a normal guy, i'm not way out there on the left. we want calm after donald trump. but instead -- that was the joe biden that defeated paul ryan in the vice presidential debates years ago, very calm, a little condescending. instead this year he is either angry a lot of times out on the stump or raising these kind of questions. and adapting a very left-wing agenda. i just don't think he is going

about it the way i would if i were trying to win. >> trace: i want to move on, bill, if i can to door knocking, if you will. "politico" writes the following. trump's campaign knocks on a million doors a week. biden knocks on zero. the divergeing responses to covid-19 could be a wild card in november with close races up and down the ballot. republican and democrat parties are taking polar opposite approaches to door-to-door canvassing this fall. the value of face-to-face campaigning has no modern precedent making it a potential wild card in november especially in a close race. do you value the face-to-face stuff, bill? >> yes, i do. i think that's important for a candidate to get out there. also when you are out face-to-face you can gauge the reaction of people better. what they respond to, what they don't respond to. i think it's very important. like why a lot of actors prefer theater to the silver screen in

many ways because it's a more intimate relationship. but look, i think the larger point you just said, this is unprecedented territory. there are so many different things that could make a difference. the debates could be more important. if people calculate that joe biden is not up to it or weak it may put more attention on his vice presidential pick. from history we know vice presidents don't really help you that much but they can hurt you. so i think there is a myriad of factors that could change the script this year. >> trace: i think the overlying point here is that when you are only coming public a few times a week or a few times a month everything is magnified and amplified. good to see you as always, bill mcgurn. >> sandra: facebook and twitter both removing posts they say contains coronavirus misinformation shared by president trump.

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>> sandra: for the first time ever facebook removed one of the president's posts. twitter doing the same saying the president's message breaks their rules against spreading misinformation about coronavirus. joining us now at the white house is counsel to the president kellyanne conway. good morning, thank you for being here. there is a debate happening whether or not facebook or twitter should be arbiters of truth and decide what is fact and fiction. we can have that talk in a moment. the latest cdc numbers on coronavirus cases in children under the age of 18. under 18 accounts for about 7.4% of confirmed cases. that is up 6.7% from two weeks ago and up nearly 6% from a month ago. so kids are getting this disease, kellyanne.

>> yes, they are. thankfully most have never died. every person who dies is a tragedy. those are national numbers. not every state, county or school district is the same and see so many parents when they're surveyed, sandra, say do you feel like it's safe to send your son or daughter back to school and yes, please do that. they're being big footed by one health commissioner in a county or school board or a few in the teacher's union. i think we have to take into account what everybody is saying here. i'm also happy to report that based on the covid report i received this morning at the white house, the overall test positivity rate has declined 8% since last week and 0 states have seen an increase since tuesday. as dr. birx and others have been saying we're seeing a flattening. governor ducey was here yesterday from arizona showing a great model for the country.

they had a huge surge in june and took action. >> sandra: the debate now is over the spread of misinformation by the president about children being nearly immune. having -- under 18 kids in this country get the disease 7.4% of the time is not nearly immune and you want to dial down to specific states and districts where schools are reopening, what is happening with children. i spoke to the governor of mississippi last night and he said the kids are spreading it. listen. >> what's happened is many of these kids when they started back to school early last week came into the schools. they came in and had the virus. we actually have 100 students that are quarantined now. those who want to attack everyone, look at that as a negative. i look at it as a positive. the system is working where we've identified positive cases, contact traced those back and trying to protect those kids. >> sandra: is it helpful for

the president to tell parents that children are nearly immune from this and then have it factually spreading child to child in places like mississippi where they've opened the doors to the schools? >> the president makes very clear uses the new jersey information he got from democrat phil murphy. new jersey was the second hardest hit state for a while you've had one child under the age of 18 that passed away and it had underlying conditions. that's the information i have. the president is making clear that overall the average age of those who pass from coronavirus is still at 78. over 40% of those who passed away were in long term facilities and nursing homes. i learned that in the coronavirus tasks force meeting in the oval office two days ago. we had the task force meeting in there. i listened to dr. redfield and fauci and birx. we have to make clear that we

-- a lockdown and shutdown may work for biden in wilmington but doesn't work for our school children. we know from many health professionals. extended lock downs and not being in school increased so many other maladies for these children. >> sandra: i get that, kellyanne. the point is the president in that interview on "fox & friends" yesterday morning said it is going to go away. like things go away. and that is something many people are taking issue with particularly because his own health experts at the white house, dr. fauci, dr. birx and others, this the fauci's words. i don't believe it will disappear because it is such a highly trance myselfible virus. >> he is and he should be listening to him as well. we don't like to hear the first things on tv when we have

coronavirus task force meetings and don't hear certain things there and we can pressure test and learn as a task force and then hear them for the first time on tv. it means the country benefits when we understand the facts and figures here at the white house and they are brought up to the president and the vice president as should be the case. let me make this point. when twitter as of all people i imagine tens of thousands of people work at twitter. when you have somebody who works for kamala harris come out and announce you are banning the president's tweet and taking it down. that itself shows a political motivation. and i think what many of these tech companies are doing now to the president, to conservatives, the shadow banning, the sensoring, the selective engagement is election interference. we got three years worth of election security, election security. now we'll do mail-in balloting, we're going to shut down the president's twitter feed at times team trump got shut down.

the who, which told everybody in january no evidence of human-to-human transmission of covid is still up on twitter. you've got -- i have a whole list of tweets from here that are the biggest lie of the last 10 years said by joe biden, keep your plan and doctor. that's probably in a tweet somewhere. >> sandra: let me clarify what you're saying and i'll pull up the facebook spokesperson on removing that video involving the president. video includes false claims that a group of people is immune from coronavirus. you seem to be pointing out misinformation spread by other people, by other world leaders, etc. are you suggesting that there is a space for facebook and twitter to monitor and in some cases delete information that is spread like the president's or whoever else that you are going to name right now, or should they not be doing it at all? what is the white house stance? >> i think they have to make up their mind.

the president signed an executive order about the tech companies. why do we have the tech overlords telling us what is and is not legitimate on health matters. they immediately take action against some people and never others. that's selective engagement. if this really is the first amendment. they hide behind the first amendment, it should be. the president signed an executive order that has teeth this week or last week. the department of commerce sent to the sec some additional information that we want more transparency. why are pro-life videos taken down on video and excluded from facebook? why are certain people who defend the second amendment, you don't like the second amendment tell congress to do away with it. in other words, it's selective engagement, twitter, facebook, many of the forms are overly anti-trump. i think what has happened is the president has over 200 million followers on all the social media platforms. he has used it the way no other politician has ever used it and

they don't like that. they don't like the fact that he can use their platforms as a way to reach americans in a way that -- >> sandra: that can be debated. i want to move on to the coronavirus relief package. as a result of everything we're talking about the pandemic there are so many americans still struggling. so many small businesses trying to stay afloat if they survive what we've gone through so far. is mark meadows pushing the president into executive action on this? it seems like congress is getting nowhere. >> i think pelosi and schumer are pushing the president to executive action. he won't stand by while americans suffer economically. he has taken such robust action through the cares act, trillions of dollars in relief to the states, all combined to the states, also to the hospitals and reimbursement over $150 billion and counting. of course, to small businesses. he kept many small businesses

afloat not just surviving but thriving to cover their payrolls. last friday the democrats getting in the way of a one week extension of $600. why was that important? july 31st. we're concerned people paying their bills in august, september, october. they only care how you vote in november. >> sandra: where is the president willing to act alone with executive action? >> he can -- there are things he can do and he has been working with his economic team and lawyers here, i know that as fact to see if he can stand up and stand in where congress fails to act. there is a reason congress has 13% approval rating. when they bother to show up for work they don't get anything done. it seems so partisan. leader mcconnell has been out there doing this, tim scott of south carolina and lamarr alexander with a great school choice bill to help the students that rely on scholarships, opportunities and freedom. let the money follow the child.

if you can find a school that's open let the money follow the child. it is there for the students, not the government. there are teachers, we want -- they seem hell bent on making it a partisan exercise and not for the people economically suffering. >> sandra: new gallup survey on economic recovery. are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the united states at this time? only 13% said that they're satisfied. your reaction to that, kellyanne. >> 13% is about the approval rating. we're in the middle of a pandemic and social unrest. that doesn't surprise me. the other gallup number that caught my eye is that 9 in 10 americans don't want to defund the police 8 in 10 african-americans and hispanic. bill deblasio cut the budget and look what's happening to our cherished new york city. >> trace: scary moments when a

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>> trace: new york prosecutors fighting to obtain president trump's tax returns have also reportedly subpoena had the president's bank for his financial records. laura engel joins us live. where does the inquiry stand, laura? >> new york prosecutors have been successful in obtaining what may be some pretty substantial documents from deutsche bank as it pertains to president trump and his businesses according to the "new york times." the case we're following very closely. deutsche bank has been president trump's primary lender since the late 1990s. the president and legal team

have been locked in a heated battle with new york prosecutors to keep his financial information private as we've reported in the da's ongoing criminal investigation that the pat called the continuation of the witch hunt. vans is working to get eight years of tax returns into hush money payments. we'll bring you more as we get it throughout the day. >> sandra: the federal response to protests around the country. the questions that are going to be asked when we return. because it's always time for care.

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>> sandra: fox news alert out of north carolina, several homes going up in flames overnight in ocean isle. crews came in before dawn to fight the fire that injured at least one person. a flooded car somehow ignited and sparked that fire. this is the same area where hurricane isaias made landfall earlier this week. several homes caught fire in the immediate wake of the storm on tuesday as well. witnesses say that fire was sparked by an exploding transformer. today five homes were damaged and firefighters say two of them are a total loss. joe biden canceling plans to travel to milwaukee to accept the democratic nomination. the former vp will give a

speech from delaware instead. we've made it to thursday, good morning, i'm sandra smith. >> trace: good morning to you, i'm trace gallagher. both parties are scaling back their convention plans in response to the coronavirus. president trump now floating the idea of giving his acceptance speech from the white house. >> president trump: if i use the white house, we save tremendous amounts of money for the government in terms of security, traveling. i think it would be a very convenient location and would be by far the least expensive location. i think it would be a very convenient idea, something that we threw out. cost conscious by comparison to any other location. >> sandra: from delaware. how many people could biden host there if he wanted to? >> wilmington allows gathering up to 250 people, slightly more than milwaukee where biden won't go because he told donors on a fundraising call last night the mayor of milwaukee

has put in place a 225 person limit on people assembling in any one place. i want to set an example how we should respond individually to this crisis. big part of the reason democrats chose wisconsin as their convention host is because they wanted to show this cycle they're more serious about winning there than hillary clinton who never visited during the general. the wisconsin outfit is saying this about the biden full back. he is repeating the mistakes from the 2016 campaign. president trump will carry the state again in november. wisconsin had more than a year to prepare their state for the convention and they kept making adjustments to accommodate the slimd down version of the convention until the last minute. wilmington or wherever in delaware the biden campaign winds up going has less than two weeks, sandra. >> sandra: has covid-19 affected fundraising much?

>> not much. both campaigns are making a lot of money and have almost the same exact amount. if you look at the cash on hand number for where we stand right now trump and the rnc and their $300 million are $6 million more than biden and the dnc in their $294 million. biden is home again today going through his list and meeting with potential running mates to add to the ticket. there is a camera parked right outside the gate of the house if anybody pops up in person we'll let you know. >> sandra: thank you. >> trace: acting homeland security -- the hearing is now underway. wolf is taking questions on the role of federal agents deployed across the country and how they're handling the riots and protests. lucas tomlinson live at the pentagon with more. >> good morning, trace. all eyes are on chad wolfe and keeping an eye on joe biden's

potential running mate kamala harris. might be her last time to audition for the role. as far as his opening remarks are concerned the senior dhs official tells me chad wolfe plans to say violence was in portland before we arrived and still ongoing after we are less visible. wolf plans to show a video and show photos illustrating the recent violence while protecting the federal courthouse after 69 rights of rioting in oregon. he told fox news his officers aren't going anywhere until there is peace in portland where hundreds of law enforcement officers have been injured. >> we'll continue to secure that courthouse. that seat of justice in portland. that's our job and responsibility and we aren't backing away from that. what we've been asking portland and oregon to do is police city streets and parks, do their jobs and arrest individuals that are committing criminal acts. >> here at the pentagon top

brass have voiced reservations. federal officers wearing camo uniforms in cities across the united states. dhs is working to replace those uniforms to make sure protestors and rioters can distinguish them as u.s. officers, not military personnel. look out for fireworks and watch kamala harris. >> trace: we're staying on it. lucas, thank you, live from the pentagon. >> sandra: president trump walking back his claim that tuesday's deadly explosion in beirut was an attack clarifying the cause is still unclear. >> president trump: i've heard accident, i've heard explosives. obviously it must have been some form of explosives. whether it was a bomb intentionally set off. it ended up being a bomb. i have heard it both ways. it could have been an accident and could have also been something very offensive and i wouldn't be very happy with that. >> sandra: initial reports suggest the blast was triggered

by a fire at a warehouse that set off a stockpile of highly explosive ammonium nitrate fertilizer. it killed many people and left thousands injured. >> trace: the fieb joining the search for a missing mom in florida. police are searching for the 21-year-old since july 26 when her 2-year-old son camden was found alone in a parking lot in miramar. the mother's pickup truck was found abandoned in hollywood, florida. they're asked to call the hollywood police department if you have any information. >> we will stay here as long as it takes to get an agreement. and we urge mr. meadows to sit down and continue to work with us to do it as long as it takes. >> by friday if we haven't made significant progress and we're just too far apart, the president is prepared to take

executive action. >> sandra: no deal yet on the next coronavirus release bill. democrats and republicans still negotiating on capitol hill. mark meadows says if an agreement is not reached by tomorrow it is doubtful there will be any deal at all. chad pergram is live on capitol hill. >> they're trillions apart here. the negotiations have gone on for days. the only place a movement is on unemployment insurance. they're a little bit closer there. the length of these talks, that's what is frustrating mark meadows. >> i can just tell you that there are no top line numbers that have been agreed to. we continue to be trillions of dollars apart in terms of what democrats and republicans hopefully will ultimately compromise on. >> this is the thicket of

negotiations with dozens of thorny issues. they are nowhere close on food assistance, not close on school aid. all they've accomplished is narrowed the list of issues where they think there can be an agreement. house speaker nancy pelosi called it an unusual negotiation. >> i feel optimistic that there is a light at the end of the tunnel but how long that tunnel is remains to be seen. >> this is where if there is no deal they could take executive action over the weekend or next week where the president has talked maybe sandra about a moratorium on evictions and suspending the collection of payroll taxes. >> sandra: why do they think they can get a deal done now after two weeks of negotiations? >> they don't. that's what is so interesting about this. this was summed up by meadows yesterday afternoon. listen. >> this is not a fine wine that don't improve with time. >> the senate hasn't tried to advance an interim plan on unemployment insurance despite suggestions that would happen

this week. fox is told any measure my only command 40gop votes. if there is not an agreement fox is told the administration could try to use some unused coronavirus money from old bills back in march. also money from the disaster relief fund if they can't get an agreement. sandra. >> sandra: we'll see where it all goes. great to see you. thank you. >> trace: the trump campaign looking to bump up the date of the president's first debate the joe biden. why the campaign says it's critical to do it earlier. plus the fight over mail-in ballots, the trump campaign now suing one state over it. ed rollins why the president keeps hammering away at this issue. >> president trump: you are talking about million -- millions of votes. it is a catastrophe waiting to happen. otezla is not a cream.

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>> trace: scary moments outside a new jersey gas station. s.u.v. side swiping a car and slamming into the gas pumps. you can see them going up if flames. it was caught on surveillance video in north brunswick. everyone is just fine. >> sandra: voting by mail emerging as a key issue in the run-up to the election. trump campaign suing the state of nevada for its plan to send a ballot to every registered voter in the state saying it

will undermine the electoral process. ed rollins was ronald reagan's campaign director and fox news contributor. great to have you here. we want you to help us kind of dig through the facts and the fiction when it comes to the mail-in voting debate happening now. throw it up on the screen as far as mail-in voting. for a handful of states a ballot is automatically mailed to every eligible voter, no request or application is necessary, polling places may also be available to voters, other states may permit the all-mail option for specific types of elections but it is that ballot being automatically sent to every eligible voter in some of these states that the president is taking issue with. case in point, nevada. are they right to bring this up and sue the state? >> i don't think they'll win the battle but they're right to bring it up for the reason they changed the rules a few weeks ago to the election.

bottom line there are 40 states now that have some kind of absentee program without an excuse. you apply and get the ballot and send it back. several states now starting with oregon in 1964 mail out to every registered voter the ballot and you return the ballot back. the problem with that is you have 160 million people this time. you had 57 million absentee ballots early voting last time so the numbers could be astronomical consider the virus. you don't want to exclude anybody eligible to vote but you don't purge voter pools. what you found sometimes is people move, die, they're not there anymore and ballot still gets sent out. a lot of ballots out that there that are invalid. make sure the invalid ballot's don't get counted. everybody has access to a ballot that's registered. the biggest problem here is the numbers that will come out

especially when it is hard to get volunteers. the trump campaign is built on volunteers. they spent two years and a lot of money to build a great volunteer program that may help them in the long term but what normally happens you check on a campaign and look and see who is taking an absentee ballot. make sure they turn it in or not if it's one of your voters. the big states where california, new york, somewhere else aren't necessarily republican states you don't -- it's the chaos will be there. you probably are not going to get results until a day or two or a week or two afterwards. assume it's a close election again. >> sandra: you have heard the president talk about. the mail-in and absentee voting you have heard democrats say they're the same thing. president and republicans saying there are very clear differences with what we're talking about here, absentee voting all states will mail an

absentee ballot to certain voters who request one is the big difference. in 2/3 of state any qualified voter may vote absentee without offering an excuse. a third of the states an excuse is required. some states require a ballot list which is important to note. talk about the state of florida. because you had so many pointing out while the president said he is against mail-in voting but then it's okay in florida? so what's going on there? >> the president won florida by 112,000 votes last time. it has always been half or 1% victory. so it's close. you need every vote. you want to make sure there is no mischief or people getting ballots that aren't eligible anymore because you moved and living somewhere else. that's the key thing. what happened is the president made the statement out and i think they found out their campaign had worked hard both in florida and nationally to

have an absentee ballot program to get people to vote by absentee and all of a signed you create confusion. not as much voter fraud as the president would like to believe. what there is, the potential for chaos. when you have 77,000 votes in wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania decided the election last time. any small percent here or there could have an impact on this so you have to watch this election very closely and make sure you monitor. my sense is a lot of lawyers will make a lot of money after this thing if one side doesn't win easily. >> sandra: finally want to ask you about the debate over the debates. the president now saying he wants a fourth debate and wants that fourth debate to be earlier than the first scheduled debate. he tweeted this out. how can voters be sending in ballots starting one month before the first presidential debate? move the first debate up. debate to me is a public service. joe biden and i owe it to the american people. talk about the history of the

presidential debates historically three of them in recent history, set dates but does he have a point about the early voting nature particularly of this election and needing that first presidential debate to get moved up so more voters can hear from both candidates before they cast their ballot? >> i totally agree with him. the commission on debates got started in 1984. i played the objection the legal limit voters. hard to get people in the thing and they pick the moderators. they created the presidential committee. two party chairmen and several others deciding. it worked well in some cases but now it controls -- the two campaigns sit down with the networks and say we want to have a debate in this particular case in studio, out of studio, what have you. the commission itself is now running the debates as opposed to the campaign and one of the most important issues. the president is absolutely right. we should have early debates. if people will vote early in an environment like this they need

to see the two candidates head-to-head and make their judgments. >> sandra: so much speculation going around, who wants to debate, will it be in person? give it your thoughts. do you see this happening? go ahead. >> it certainly hasn't happened in a long time. 76 was the last time someone didn't debate. the reality here is debates are important. particularly now you don't have real connection. the whole campaign has been turned upside down. the debates are the last bastion of where you get to make a judgment on the two candidates. you want it sometime earlier in september so people can see it before they vote. again you may have half the voters voting by absentee ballot in early voting. they won't see the debates. they won't get mail or see television until late. my sense is debate early september, two in september would be what i would argue if i was one of these campaigns. three are plenty.

and the vice president debate. the campaigns themselves ought to make the determination they want. >> sandra: glad you could join us, great to see you. trace. >> trace: a deadly explosion in beirut and the search continues. we'll have more on why such a large stockpile of highly explosive material was stored at the site. plus -- >> warning, this is the second warning. protests and riot in portland. new video of rioters attacking a police precinct. when will it end? >> everyone from the person who owns a mom and pop store to the big business owners, faith leaders, all the way up to elected officials to really send a strong message that enough is enough. this is not forwarding the goals of things that are going

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>> sandra: it is the bottom of the hour. time for the top of the news. investigators looking at possible negligence in tuesday's explosion that killed at least 135 people in beirut. it is believed to have been triggered when a warehouse storing highly unstable ammonium night rate fertilizers and explosives caught fire.

>> trace: rivera sitting down with an interview with president trump with the election less than 90 days away. he joins us with a preview. >> sandra: dr. anthony fauci giving the push for a coronavirus vaccine. he said the u.s. will have tens of millions of doses by early next year and says the white house is not pressuring researchers to speed up the approval process. >> we have to have a debate before the voting starts. those schedules were set 30 years ago. now half the people vote by the middle of october. two of the debates are after half the people vote. >> trace: rudy giuliani asking to move up the dates. rich edson is live for us in washington rich. >> good morning, trace. the president and his campaign

say they want another debate and they want the debating to begin in less than a month. president tweeted this morning how can voters be sending in ballots starting one month before the first presidential debate? move the first debate up. a debate to me is a public service. joe biden and i owe it to the american people. in a letter to the commission on presidential debates rudy giuliani writes simply put, the commission's current approach is an outdated dinosaur and not reflective of voting realities in 2020. giuliani says the two nominees should begin debating before states start mailing out ballots september 4th. the first debate scheduled for september 29th. he says tens of millions of americans may have already started voting by the final presidential debate on october 22 at belmont, university in nashville. the trump campaign says another option would be instead of adding a fourth debate, just to take that last debate on october 22 and move that up to

early september, trace. >> trace: what's the biden campaign saying, rich? >> the biden campaign is pointing to the commitments that the campaigns have already made as is common in presidential debates at least over the last couple decades that you've got three presidential debates and one vice presidential debate. spokesperson for the biden campaign says we have said all along including in a letter to the commission in june that joe biden will appear on the date that the commission selected and in the locations they choose. donald trump has not continually trying to insert his choice of friendly moderators. giuliani's letter to the commission on debate he also included two dozen names that the campaign would like to see moderate a fourth debate if it's added. trace. >> trace: rich edson live for us in washington thank you. >> sandra: the head of lebanon's customs department speaking out on tuesday's devastating explosion in beirut saying officials had made around half a dozen requests to

remove the stockpile of explosive materials that is believed to have caused it. greg palkot is following this story from london for us. >> horrendous news. investigation is well underway into the terrible blast on tuesday in beirut, lebanon. now it's believed left at least 137 people dead. the cleanup has only just begun in the devastated city. rescue workers are searching for survivors, 300,000 are homeless. now thought the huge blast was caused by an accidental fire triggering the detonation of 2800 tons of the chemical ammonium nitrate used for fertilizer and also used in explosives. stored at the city's port. several port official efs are under house arrest. lebanese government tries to figure out how such a deadly

mix could be left there for six years after being taken off a ship. the president toured the site today and pledged to lead relief efforts and secretary of state pompeo has offered u.s. assistance. the damage could be in the range of $15 billion. a new problem. health experts are worried that hospitals jammed with patients, homes jammed with extra survivors could exacerbate the coronavirus virus pandemic which is also present there. sandra, a whole world of trouble in that beautiful city of beirut. back to you. >> sandra: greg palkot from london, thank you. >> trace: china condemning azar's scheduled trip to taiwan. he is planning to visit in the coming days. china says this will endanger peace. gillian turner is live for us in washington gillian. >> good morning. secretary azar will be the first u.s. cabinet official to

travel to taiwan in six years. he is planning to meet face-to-face with taiwan's pro-democracy president, china's government as you can imagine not happy with the trip. they have already condemned it. secretary of state mike pompeo says it is not up to china. listen. >> we're still in a global pandemic. he will talk about taiwan. they have had significant success how they handled it. we wanted them to be part of the conversations at the world health assembly that china has prevented that from happening. >> china's government says they oppose any interaction between u.s. and taiwan officials. the spokesperson issued a bold faced threat. listen. >> any attempt to ignore, deny or challenge that one china principle is doomed to fail. response to the wrong actions

of the u.s. china will take forceful counter measures. >> the government policy insisting the international community treat china, taiwan and hong kong and interact only with the chinese communist party. the taiwanese president is trying to poke china in the eye tweeting i look forward to welcoming secretary azar to taiwan and sharing how the taiwan model works and contribute to global health. your timely visit is another testament to the strong taiwan/u.s. partnership based on our understanding of friendship and shared values. secretary azar announced the planned visit on tuesday. sorcerers tell us the administration made the decision fully aware of the strain it would put on the u.s./china relationship and say the number one priority for the trump administration now is working with other democracies around the world to help control the coronavirus pandemic. >> trace: thank you.

>> sandra: police say a riot in portland outside the east precinct last night and explosive device may have been left outside the building. rocks and balloons full of paint were thrown at them. protests have rocked portland for 69 straight days. >> trace: we're entering in some states starting a new school year. there is a lot up in the air. parents are concerned about their kids' health but also how they can work if their kids are home indefinitely. how can we keep classrooms safe plus geraldo rivera finishing up an interview with president trump and he will join us live with a sneak peek. here's your iced coffee! ♪ america runs on dunkin'

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>> trace: iowa is end being the lifetime voting ban for people with felony convictions. the governor signed the executive order yesterday. felons will be able to vote after they complete their

sentences. the decision coming after months of protests outside the state capitol. >> sandra: correspondent at large geraldo rivera just wrapping a wide ranging interview with president donald trump. he joins us now to talk about that. geraldo, good morning. how did it go? >> it was a lot of fun. i've known him forever and i think when he is relaxed and he trusts someone who is asking him questions he will answer just about anything. you are right. it was wide ranging and he talked about his likely opponent and joe biden whether or not he will debate him. talked about the covid epidemic, the awful plague we've been beset by and whether or not he made any mistakes. talked about the economy and talked about a moratorium on foreclosures and evictions. if you wanted to know what donald trump was thinking it was a terrific 45 minutes. >> sandra: here is one clip

from that brand-new interview. you pressing him on whether or not he thinks biden will show up at the debates. >> do you think joe biden will debate you? >> president trump: he would like not to. i know that for a fact because we're dealing with everybody. he would like not to. i think it's very hard for him not to. i actually think we have a public service i put it out this morning. i think it's a public service to debate. people have to see what's going on and where you are coming from. >> sandra: he is answering that question in the context of trying to push for more and earlier debates. to be clear, the biden camp says they look forward to debating donald trump. >> well, i hope that's true, sandra. it does not -- so far what the vice president's tactic has been is to hunker down in delaware and be very careful about who had access. very careful about what questions were answered.

he was pushed in the most benign way about a cognitive test and he exploded at a reporter talking about a guy the reporter, i don't ask if you're a junkie before the interview. so it would be interesting to see. i would love joe biden to sit for a 45-minute interview like that like the president did just now. no holds barred. nothing off limits. let's see how nimble the vice president is. it would be very interesting and i think the american people are owed that much. they are -- people deserve the right to know whether the person in the oval office has the mental acuity and the flexibility and the memory, the intelligence and so forth. i think debates are the way that gets out. i haven't seen enough of joe biden lately, sandra, to make my own assessment. i know he was cool back in --

when he won against paul ryan in the debate in 2012, but let's see how he does now these many years later. >> sandra: that was obviously more questions about his cognitive state coming up after that latest interview where he was asked if he had been tested and by the way he has been asked if he was tested in the past yes, only to clarify saying he has tested because of the rigors of being on the campaign trail. leaving that there and moving on to executive action you know that congress is still stuck in negotiations on capitol hill setting this deadline of tomorrow. the president has hinted, suggested that he is willing to go at it alone on this. what did he tell you about that? >> he said, sandra, in no uncertain terms -- i don't know if you can turn the sound around in time. he said that in terms of

foreclosures and evictions he is ready, willing and able to take executive action to protect people. 25 million people facing this grim specter of being thrown out of their house because congress has been unable to agree on this latest stimulus package. he said that if they don't do it, he will. i think that -- i believe him, sandra. i believe that he will be true to his word and he will not let people be evicted because congress has been dithering and unable to reach agreement on what this next package should be. should it be $600 on top of your state unemployment check? the congress has to reach a decision but whether or not they do the president has promised that the most egregious suffering of the 25 million people who have been affected he will alleviate and

mitigate that and not let that happen. he has promised. i take him at his word. >> sandra: i hope we get more information from capitol hill today on that. and if there is any progress being made. i want to queue up more sound from your interview. we have this. you asked the president about missteps in his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. listen. >> any missteps? maybe if you were a little more enthusiastic about it earlier? >> president trump: i guess you could say people call things wrong but it's understandable nobody knew what this disease was. at the beginning they said no masks and people still that, some people. some people don't. i say use them. i say use them. but i wouldn't mandate it. i say use them. but no, i think we've done an unbelievable job. >> sandra: what do you take away from that? >> well, i think that in the small way the president is still in denial about the confused start to the response

to this awful plague, sandra. nobody expected that this wicked disease would be as malignant as it has proven to be. i think that he is defensive about that but he is also -- he feels that right now anything and everything possible is being done. for instance, i asked about the therapeutics and vaccine particularly the reports in the last couple of days that the president is so keen on getting a vaccine that he is rushing the process. he said he is absolutely not. there will be a safe and effective vaccine. that it will be available. the president's timetable i asked is it too optimistic to think it will happen before election day? the president clearly believes that he will have -- we'll have giant strides toward a vaccine before the election and he thinks the vaccine will begin being distributed en masse before the end of the year.

i think that his optimism personally -- i'm not a scientist or doctor, you know, don't take my word for it. my vibe after years in the business this vaccine thing will really be happening in a big, big way. in a way that will make of covid a bad old memory like swine flu and some of these others that we've managed. like polio. i think if this is polio now we have a polio vaccine and get it distributed. i think the president is confident we'll have a vaccine and it is going to be back -- we'll be back fighting the recovery and so forth. >> sandra: dr. fauci says he doesn't believe it will disappear. he thinks that's a difficult thing to say. as far as vaccine we talked to alex azar and he thinks vaccine will be a reality before the year is over. geraldo, great stuff. thank you for that and we'll continue to see more throughout

the day on the fox news channel. part three of geraldo's show, monsters, money and trash talk is now available on fox nation. thanks to geraldo for that. >> trace: president trump heading to ohio today. we're awaiting his departure from washington if he speaks with reporters we'll bring that to you, of course, and kids in many states are going back to school but are the classrooms safe? dr. jeanette nesheiwat will detail what precautions you should take. >> we need to assume that a, we know they don't get seriously ill but they clearly could get infected. the question is how well do they transmit that infection to others? it will mean painful cuts to essential public services across america. fewer teachers and nurses, longer response times, dirtier streets. but some say our states should just go bankrupt.

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country are making last minute decisions how to reopen keeping parents offbalance. some schools are already seeing outbreaks that have opened. what precautions can your family take to keep your family safe. dr. nesheiwat is a fox news contributor. always good to see you. schools are reopening in mississippi and georgia. we're already seeing outbreaks. it is not unexpected, right? unless you stick these kids in an nba-style bubble you'll have outbreaks, correct? >> most likely. we can't get this down to zero, there is no disease at zero when it comes to children and these viruses that we see easily transmitted in the community, trace. the good thing is we can control it. we have knowledge, we have defense mechanisms to prevent the transmission of this virus in the community. before opening a school that's one of the keys we need to look at. making sure the positivity rate is less than 5%. once we have that, then the

schools according to cdc guidelines should have a health safety action plan in place, which includes everyone knowing to wear a mask, practice strong hygiene, washing your hands, limit class sizes, maybe engage in hybrid schedules. very important to have good ventilation, as simple as opening a window in the classroom. disinfecting and cleaning schedules. all these things together are very, very important. >> trace: dr. fauci was saying the other day schools talk about elaborate filtrations system. if you're in a climate. open a window. one of the big concerns is how big of spreaders of virus are children. cdc said children are unlikely to be major drivers of the spread of the virus, but now you have this georgia sleepaway camp where of the 340 campers and counselors 260 of them tested positive, which is an indication that kids are

spreader, correct? >> well, potentially but here is the thing. at that camp they were singing and cheering and playing and they were in closed cabins without ventilation and close contact with one another. we can't necessarily compare that camp to the school. that was just a petri dish of spread with those children in close quarters not wearing masks and that's easily how the virus spreads. with schools we know spread out the desks, avoid close contact with one another and limit group size. we can't compare the spread of those children in the camp to children because there were no safety precautions taken at that camp. they weren't wearing their masks. they weren't practicing social distancing and physical distancing like the cdc recommends. on top of that it's important to understand the data that we have out of the cdc yes shows that children they can carry higher park -- particles of

this virus but not spreaders like adults are. it could be when a child coughs, sneezes and talks the force and velocity is not as strong is that of an adult but really, at the camp they were in close quarters and close cabins. >> trace: all valid points. the study on the screen is from the american academy of pediatrics. it talks about 1,000 children tested 7.3% of white children tested positive. 36.4% of spanish children and 30% of black children. what's going on? >> this goes to show how important it is that we tackle the health disparities and inequalities. it could be a matter of lack of education, lack of understanding and awareness. lack of access to healthcare. many of the covid patients i took care of here in new york were hispanic patients. so it's a matter of getting them the care that they need and really educating them and putting focus and efforts and

resources into those populations. >> trace: always good to see you. >> thank you, trace. >> sandra: new york prosecutors using a so-called major national announcement after they got ahold of president trump's financial record. that announcement is expected about a half hour from now. i'm joe biden and i approve this message.

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whose office has been investigating president trump. to be clear prosecutors aren't giving any details what exactly that announcement is but comes one day after president trump's biggest lender deutsche bank gave investors the financial records. he called the investigation in new york a continuation of the witch hunt. that announcement is set for half an hour from now and fox news will stay on top of that for you. meanwhile 88 days until the presidential election. with less than three months ago president trump is coming out swinging against his opponent joe biden in a wide ranging interview with our own geraldo rivera. welcome back to "america's newsroom," i'm sandra smith. hi, trace. >> trace: i'm trace gallagher. the president going after biden not just over political policies on his mental health suggesting it should be standard for candidates going forward to take a cognitive test. >> president trump: i think it would be good.

i think it's something that -- maybe it's a good standard. maybe presidents or potential presidents should take it. maybe they should. but i did take it and i took it. it was a very interesting -- >> trace: we're live with more at the white house. >> you remember a few weeks ago when president trump did the interview with dr. siegel in the rose garden when he said person, woman, man, camera tv talking about the cognitive test. joe biden said he is fine and doesn't need to take such a test. asked about it specifically yesterday when he became irritated when someone asked if he has taken a specific cognitive test. also in the interview with geraldo the president was asked whether he thinks biden should agree to a fourth debate. there are three debates. the former vice president's team said they'll show up anywhere, any time whatever the debate commission decides. a lot of topics in that interview.

>> trace: separately where does congress and the white house stand now on these stimulus talks? >> that's the big story today. these talks affecting millions of americans no longer getting unemployment checks. if congress can't come to a deal in the next few days the president and white house said they will get involved. white house chief of staff mark meadows and secretary steven mnuchin continues negotiations on the hill. both sides are far apart on a deal. the clock is ticking and the pressure is on. >> we haven't made significant progress and we're too far apart. the president is prepared to take executive action and he will do executive actions and take executive actions to actually address those two areas to make sure that at least what he can do is take action because congress won't. >> house speaker nancy pelosi known to fight for congress says it's a co-equal branch of

government and has something to say about executive action. >> he can't do the money without the congress of the united states, the power of the purse begins in the house. >> previous administrations you would see the president directly involved, possibly having the house speaker and senate minority leader in the oval office. well house speaker pelosi and schumer and the president have a strained relationship to put it lightly. today i asked advisor kellyanne conway where the president won't extend an invitation to the house speaker and minority leader to have them come to the white house and here is what she had to say. >> if they want to come and have a productive conversation. you want them to stand there in their fancy clothes and talk to you about the deadlock and the roadblock. >> remember the december 2018 meeting in the oval office on camera. it spilled out into the public in argument between the house speaker, minority leader and president. that's something the white house doesn't want to happen. kellyanne conway says president trump will be traveling over

the next few days. heading to ohio today and golf club in new jersey this weekend and will be fully involved with those negotiations, certainly the clock ticking for millions of americans anxious and impatient, trace. >> trace: live for us on the north lawn. thank you. three teenagers under arrest after police say they jumped a wall at the president's mar-a-lago resort in florida and they were carrying an ak-47 that was loaded. it happened last friday. the teens were arrested shortly after they entered the property. mar-a-lago is closed for the summer and president trump and his family were not there. >> sandra: a city council amendment aimed to dismantle the police department in minneapolis will not be on the ballot this november. a commission in the city says it needs more time to review the proposals. official efs say it was rushed through after george floyd's death and some parts of the amendment were flawed. >> i don't think anybody here supports this amendment. maybe you do.

i certainly do not. i think it's ill planned, ill conceived. no public engagement. >> sandra: city council members plan to propose a new amendment in 2021. >> trace: confrontation outside of police precinct in portland on the 69th straight night of protests in the city. >> move now. disperse from the area now. move. >> trace: police declaring a riot after protesting starting the tear off boards protecting the building. officers moving in with tear gas as some people started throwing rocks at them. jonathan hunt is live. tell us more about last night. >> it's hard to fathom 69 nights of protests. the withdrawal from the streets of federal agents whose presence had sparked so much anger seems to have shifted the focus of the protests away from the federal courthouse and

toward local police precincts. police and protestors clashing last night for instance around portland's east precinct where demonstrators started fires, erected barricades, spray painted security cameras, pointed green lasers at police officers and threw fireworks toward police lines. eventually police declared a riot. that's a step that enables them to order crowds to disperse and take action to enforce that disperseal order. portland police say they used tear gas and other crowd control munitions to do that. in another incident on tuesday night a pickup truck you see it there accelerated through a crowd of protestors. at one point pushing a riderless motorcycle in front of it. not clear whether the truck driver was deliberately driving at the protestors or was simply disoriented and panicked. no one was injured. the driver was interviewed by police and released without

charge. the police chief says he believes it is hurting the black life matters cause. >> enough is enough. this is not forwarding the goals of things that are going to lead to better outcomes for people of color. this movement is very powerful and i feel like the violence has taken away from it in a really concerning way. >> portland police have arrested more than 400 people since late may while the federal agents i mentioned, now largely withdrawn from the streets, arrested at least 94 people through july 30th and so it goes on, trace. >> trace: live for us on the west coast. jonathan, thank you. >> sandra: some police officers across the country responding to the defund the police movement by retiring early. some feeling the effects of post traumatic stress disorders, others not waiting for benefits to kick in.

mike tobin is live in chicago with that. >> you just mentioned the charter commission taking that move that effectively blocked the minneapolis city council's efforts to get rid of the police. getting rid of the police seems to be happening anyway with a significant segment of the population and city leadership against them a lot of minneapolis cops are leaving the job and in some cases they don't have a choice. a lawyer representing police officers in minneapolis says following the george floyd riots upwards of 200 of 860 cops on the force have started the process of applying for permanent disability. most of the cases are for ptsd. their lawyer says it is not a case in which they've just had enough and choosing disability to walk off the job. they need to be diagnosed by two psychologists before they start the application. >> my officers have served in afghanistan and iraq and they've said that what they experienced following the george floyd killing was far

greater, far worse, far more intense. >> in chicago more than a dozen police officers have committed suicide since 2017. the most recent case was at the end of july a deputy chief shot himself in the chest. the head of the police union in chicago says cops are seeking early retirement with such haste some aren't waiting until they qualify for medical benefits. los angeles couldn't give us a number but early retirement is spiking and the city says early retirement for all public employees was up 50% in june. seattle the head of the police officers guild he fears a day when there won't be enough officers to respond to the call. >> sandra: mike tobin, thank you. >> trace: the investigation into the deadly explosion in beirut centering on possible negligence as it appears to have been caused by an accidental fire that ignited a warehouse full of highly explosive fertilizer at the city's port.

the blast killed 135 people injuring more than 5,000 and left nearly 300,000 others homeless and caused widespread damage miles from the lebanese capital with losses estimated to be as high as $15 billion. >> sandra: a new poll finds that americans have a higher opinion of the supreme court than they have in many years but they must not have surveyed vice president mike pence. what he is sounding off on specifically on the court just ahead and a first for facebook as it now joins twitter in deleting a post by the president even after founder mark zuckerberg told our own dana had no place doing that. e that's me. there's no income verification and no out of pocket costs. that's me.

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>> chief justice john roberts has been a disappointment to conservatives, obamacare decision or a spate of recent decisions all the way through calvary chapel. >> trace: a day after taking a shot at andrew cuomo over his response to the pandemic he takes a dig at john roberts saying he has not ruled in the administration's favor in several cases. in louisiana he voted with the majority to strike down a law

require doctors at abortion clinics to have admitting privileges at local hospitals. a new gallup poll finding 58% of americans approve of the job the supreme court is doing. that is the highest rating in 11 years. >> sandra: a first from facebook as the social media giant removes a post from the president for violating what it says is covid-19 misinformation saying it contained false claims about the virus and children. twitter did it, too, but it has fact checked user statements before and caught flak for that from facebook ceo for mark zuckerberg who shared concerns with dana perrino a few months back. great to have you here this morning. we might as well playing the sound of your interview with mark zuckerberg where he was asked about just this. listen. >> we have a different policy. i think than twitter on this. i just believe strongly that facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth of everything

that people say online. i think in general private companies probably shouldn't be especially these platform companies shouldn't be in the position of doing that. >> sandra: so what changed, dana? >> look, i'm not a spokesperson for facebook so i don't want put in that position but how i understand the company's position which is that question was specific to a political speech and there are a lot of calls from democrats as i'm thinking back to that interview, there was very heavy calls from democrats including warren saying that facebook should regulate political speech. that question was specific to that. facebook has poll -- policies and come to information with harm to people. misinformation about coronavirus is something the company apparently decided that was something that was distinct from political speech. another example would be nancy pelosi the speaker very frustrated with facebook for

never taking down a video that had altered her speech that made her look like she was sleepy or drunk when she was speaking and facebook did not take that video down. democrats have been furious about that for a long time. if you see the distinction that wasn't going to lead to anybody's harm, personal harm. the distinction that the company has had to figure out how to deal with. they are under tons of pressure from both sides. what he is saying that political speech is different from speech about health. >> sandra: okay. i want to move on to another debate. that is the debate over the debates. rudy giuliani went on "fox & friends" this morning and he made the case that the trump campaign is making for more debates. listen. >> we have to have a debate before the voting starts. those schedules were set 30 years ago. now half the people vote by the middle of october. two of the debates are after half the people vote.

that's not fair to anybody. >> sandra: they want a fourth debate but they want -- if they get the added fourth debate to be the first debate which they want much earlier than the already-scheduled first debate. do you see this happening? >> i don't see it happening necessarily but i understand the point and i understand the desire to have a debate. i feel like the debate about the debates is really a thing for the media to talk about. the thing is people are going to be voting early regardless of the pandemic. that schedule hasn't changed either. that was already in place. if they wanted a fourth debate they could have been advocating for this a long time ago when the dates were initially set. that said i believe that people who decide to vote early are those who have already made up their minds. they probably made up their mind years ago that on november 2016 they knew in 2020 they were going to be voting for donald trump or against donald trump. so early voters that are deciding to vote before any of these debates take place are

not persuadeable anyway. the key for these campaigns and the trump campaign is a good organization, keep track of who is voting. early voting allows you to say we've done well in this county and important for us. we have to make a bigger push in this county. from an organizational standpoint the trump campaign is very well prepared for that. i don't think there will necessarily be another debate. if there were i love this stuff. i would take another debate. >> sandra: the question becomes who benefits from more debates and earlier debate. the biden campaign put out this statement and read it to you. we have said all along that joe biden will appear on the dates that the commission selected and in the locations they choose. donald trump has not. i have spoken to the campaign multiple times this week. there seems to be a little miscommunication. i had one spokesperson tell me yes they've confirmed to the commission, others say no,

we're waiting to get the extra debate, get the earlier debate. see what happens there. why is there so much speculation? if the biden campaign keeps saying yes we'll debate. you spoke to dr. jill biden this week looking forward to the debate. why is there so much speculation that he won't show up or debate? >> a couple of reasons. when a candidate is far ahead you probably want fewer debates because you don't want to make a mistake and end up ruining your chances. the other thing is that it was democrats that suggested that biden not debate. john friedman a liberal columnist for "the new york times" he said six weeks ago i had a debate with tucker carlson about it. then this past week former white house press secretary recommended joe biden not debate because he didn't want him to have a gaffe. it is coming not necessarily from the trump campaign that biden doesn't want to debate. they think he will be a weak

debater. it is coming from democrats. one of the things i asked dr. biden do you think it's unhelpful to suggest that biden not campaign? i believe the rumor mill would probably be put to bed pretty quickly if the democrats wouldn't keep raising this idea that maybe biden shouldn't debate donald trump. i think that doesn't help biden at all. if i were them i would tell their allies to knock it off. >> sandra: dana perrino, we'll see you at 2:00 and later on the 5:00. great to see you. >> trace: the new york attorney general making a major announcement moments if now one day after deutsche bank reportedly turned over financial records on president trump. we don't know if it has anything to do with that but we'll take you there live when the new york a.g. begins speaking. former deputy attorney general sally yates sounding off an james comey during testimony before a senate panel. agreeing with gop lawmaker that

comey went rogue on the decision to interview michael flynn. senator chris coons attended yesterday's hearing and he will join us next with his take on the proceedings. the coronavirus is wrecking state and local budgets.

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>> sandra: top headlines at the bottom of the hour. nearly 1.2 million americans are newly without a job. the weekly unemployment claims topping 1 million for the 20th straight week. the number is an improvement with claims at their lowest

point since the pandemic began. >> trace: two days after a tropical storm, a million half people are still without power in new york, new jersey and connecticut. new york's governor demanding an investigation of utility companies. con edison says it caused the second largest outage in its history. >> sandra: moments away from what is being billed a major announcement by new york's attorney general a day after president trump's finances were turned over from his largest lender deutsche bank. we'll watch for that. it's a fox news alert. prosecutors are being tight liepd what exactly that announcement is but gaining interest because it does happen a day after "the new york times" reported that president trump's biggest lender deutsche bank turned over the president's finances. laura engel is live from new york city this morning. >> as we wait for this presser to get underway we also are taking a look at that report in

the times. in addition to the new court files this week by the manhattan da into the criminal investigation into president trump's financial records. a year-long battle between the president trump legal team and manhattan district attorney's office trying to get up to eight years of trump's tax records and records from deutsche bank, the primary lender since the late 1990s. it all began with the d.a.'s ongoing criminal investigation into hush money payments to two women ahead of the 2016 election who claim they had affairs with trump, which the president has denied. calling the investigation a continuation of the witch hunt. a court filing earlier this week by cy vance demanded his investigation is broader than originally thought citing reports of protracted criminal conduct at the trump

organizations that legal experts suggest they are looking into possible crimes involving bank and insurance fraud. the information obtained is subject to grand jury secrecy rules and might never become public unless the d.a.'s office brings charges and introduces the documents as evidence at trial. again new york's attorney general is expected to make a major announcement. we don't know if it's connected but we'll bring it to you as it happens. >> sandra: president trump's former attorney michael cohen has a new gig lined up. if the judge approves an attorney for cohen confirming an unspecified political action committee offered him a job as consul ant who will make media appearances. he received a three year prison sentence after pleading guilty with campaign finance violations and lying to congress. he is released to home confinement. >> trace: former deputy attorney general sally yates

taking tough questions on the role of former f.b.i. james comey. president trump saying sally yates is either lying or grossly incompetent. it is not possible she could have known so little about dirty cop james comey and others from her high position in the department of justice. delaware chris coons is on the judicial committee. i want to play a sound bite of lindsey graham last night saying that sally yates threw former f.b.i. director james comey under the bus. >> jim comey has become radioactive. people are running away from him like he has the plague. rosenstein said no i wouldn't have signed the warrant if i knew then what i know now. sally yates threw him under the bus that he went rogue and set up general flynn to manufacture a crime. what's the cameaway here? comey sat on top of one of the

most corrupt investigations in the history of the f.b.i. and the rats are jumping ship. bad day for jim comey. >> trace: when sally yates said you could say james comey went rogue and lindsey graham say finally somebody admitted that. what did you make of that back and forth? >> as i'm sure doesn't surprise you i didn't see yesterday's hearing the same way as chairman graham. yates gave a disciplined thorough responsive testimony. she came willingly in front of the senate judiciary committee. at a moment when we have a raging pandemic, and upcoming election i'm surprised we dedicated hours to focusing on this. i thought it was important that there be both democrats and republicans there. ms. yates was clear that to the extent there were misrepresentations in the fisa warrant submitted to her she

was unaware of it. she thought it was unacceptable and she thinks it's appropriate for there to be an investigation as the inspector general conducted into how that came about. but some of the characterizations that you just played are not accurate. it was clear that general flynn lied to the f.b.i. to conceal his actions and was appropriately convicted an sentenced as a result. and the larger point there is no dispute that russia interfered in our 2016 election. is trying to do so again in 2020. and that should be bringing us together as republicans and democrats to invest in making sure that our election this fall is secure from any foreign interference. >> trace: i think what senator graham was trying to point out is the fact that going into this thing there was pretty good evidence that you say michael flynn lied to the f.b.i. also pretty good evidence that the f.b.i. tried to set him up during that interview and that was a big questioning point

because senator graham feels like that was a violation of the then or soon to be national security advisor's rights. >> well, whether he was set up or not, i think it's something that is strongly disagreed between folks who were both at that hearing and who look at this. the national security advisor was having inappropriate conversations with an ambassador from a hostile power who was known to have just carried out attacks on our election. but frankly, i think we can agree to disagree on this point given the urgent negotiations that are going on right now, right here in the u.s. capitol over whether or not 20 million americans will face eviction. whether or not maybe up to 50 million americans who have already lost the unemployment insurance supplement that we unanimously approved four months ago, whether they'll have an extension of that. i've recently spoken to folks

who are engaged in these negotiations about and i am hopeful that we can still reach some consensus as we did four months ago when we passed a bill unanimously that provided support to hospitals and schools and state and local governments. >> trace: is it going to happen? is this going to happen if you have mitch mcconnell and others saying if it doesn't happen to tomorrow it might not happen at all? >> i'm getting calls from folks in delaware who are very concerned about it who have lost their jobs. as you know we have tens of millions of americans out of work. there are lots of small businesses that had reopened and are now having to close again as this pandemic is surging across the country. i think there is some real agreement about a couple of key areas i'm involved in. there is a broad bipartisan coalition of us in the senate supporting an expansion of americore to give people a chance to give back to their

communities and help schools safely reopen and help food banks. i'm grateful to other senators helping me as well as other senators on my side of the aisle. in terms of small business senators rubio and car den have been leading a negotiating process on doing another round of loans to small business. there are areas we can agree. in terms of getting a bigger deal done, frankly that's between speaker pelosi, the majority and minority leader in the senate and the white house, the acting chief of staff mark meadows. >> trace: what you are talking about here is introducing legislation called the core act standing for cultivating opportunity in response to the pandemic through service. i want to put it on the screen to give our audience an idea what you are looking at. funding national service positions for three years during the recovery, prioritizing for activities related to the coronavirus response. what do you think the odds of this getting through are and

what is the major goal you are trying to implement with this legislation? >> the major goal is to get things done whether it's helping food banks, helping schools safely reopen, helping with the pressing public health needs we have all over the country. americore is overseen by commissions appointed by governors in every state and supports nonprofits, folks in the faith community and folks in traditional nonprofits like habitat for america and others and gives younger americans, many who have lost their jobs or not able to return to college, an opportunity to come together to serve our nation, to earn some opportunity for themselves and to also give back. we have a long national tradition of doing things like this in moments of national emergency. that's why this has got bipartisan support in the senate and the house. >> trace: senator chris coons, good to see you, sir.

>> sandra: one state ramping up enforcement of quarantines from nearly three dozen states and a bold move by one city's mayor. the action he has taken to ban house parties.

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external auditors and they failed to review potential conflicts of interest for employees. in our lawsuit we outline dozens of examples of these failures. many of which were led and perpetuated by the four individual defendants named in this lawsuit. who failed to fulfill their fiduciary duty to the nra. they used millions upon millions of dollars from the nra for personal use including lavish trips for themselves and their families, private jets, expensive meals, and other private travel. wayne la pair, woody phillips,

joshua powell, john frazier had negligent oversight at the nra that was illegal, oppressive, and fraudulent. they overrode and evaded internal controls to allow themselves, their families, favored board members, employees and vendors to benefit through reimbursed expenses related party transactions, excess compensation, side deals, and waste of charitable assets without regard to the nra's best interest. the central figure behind this scheme was none other than mr. wayne lapaire, the national face of the nra entrusted with running its day-to-day

operation. mr. lapaire exploited the organization for his and his family's financial benefit and the benefit of a close circle of nra staff, board members and vendors. specifically mr. lapaire spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of the nra's charitable assets for personal private plane trips for himself and his family and extended family when he was not present. he visited the bahamas by private air charter at least eight times in an approximate three-year period with his family at a cost of more than $500,000 to the nra. he traveled on multiple luxury hunting safaris in africa at the expense of an nra vendor. he spent millions of dollars on unwanted travel consultants for decades including for the

booking of luxury black car service. in the past two years alone mr. lapaire spent more than $3.6 million on these travel agent services. he secured a post employment contract for himself with the nra without board approval. currently valued at more than $17 million. he allotted several million dollars annually in nra funds for private security costs for himself and his family without sufficient oversight on their use. he received more than $1.2 million in reimbursement in just a four-year period for expenses that include gifts for favored friends and vendors, travel expenses for himself and his family, and membership fees

at golf clubs, hotels, and other member clubs. he even secured lucrative consulting contracts for ex employees and board members worth millions of dollars. yet often it resulted in little, if any, actual work. >> trace: attorney general giving a laundry list of allegations against the national rifle association and in essence what she is saying there is the nra is registered as a nonprofit in the state of new york and therefore must follow new york's laws accusing high ranking members of the nra of actually misusing funds for travel and other luxuries and reducing the budget of the nra by $64 million. nra has not responded to far to the allegations but said these type of investigations are political and aimed at going after the second amendment when

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>> sandra: for weeks now democrats have been warning that president trump might refuse to leave the white house if he loses the election. our next guest is looking at it from another angle writing in the "washington examiner" maybe it's the democrats who won't accept an election loss. byron york is a fox news contributor. it is democrats that laid out the scenarios and decided that outcome, byron. explain. they worked through four election scenarios, a wide

biden victory, murky result, clear trump victory or close. >> this is a secret group called the transition integrity project. they convened in june. a group of 100 former operatives and worked through the scenarios and in several scenarios the transition worked as planned and a new president or the president who won took office on january 20th. for example. one scenario was a clear biden victory. biden wins the popular vote and electoral vote and donald trump complains but on january 20th leaves office and biden is inaugurated. that's the way it should work. another scenario was a very narrow biden victory, narrow in the popular vote and narrow in the electoral vote. trump complained much more. there were challenges, but in the end he leaves office on

january 20th. and biden takes office. the problem came when they worked through the scenario that was just like 2016. donald trump loses the popular vote but wins the electoral vote. that means he wins the presidency. and in that case this hasn't gotten a lot of attention, democrats refused to accept the results. they tried to get some state governors, democratic gofshs norse of states trump won and tried to get them to change the electors. house democrats refused to accept trump's victory and when january 20th came, there was no clear idea what was going to happen and people were looking to see what the military would do. just an extraordinary scenario they came up with. the beginning of the scenario was donald trump winning reelection. >> sandra: in only one of the scenarios did a candidate win a clear victory and the opposing candidate refused to accept the result. the loser to refuelsed to

accept the result was joe biden, not trump. the opposite of the trump won't accept the speculation. remember that the next time you hear someone alleging that trump will not accept the election results. you are looking at it a bit differently than a lot of what we're hearing in the media today. >> president trump set some of this off on july 19th. he did an interview with "fox news sunday" chris wallace said will you accept the election results and he said i will have to see. the president fed some of this speculation. but clearly in the scenario democrats would not accept a trump victory and the group explained that for many democrats they were so upset at the idea of the popular vote winner not winning the election as happened in 2000 and 2016, they were upset about alleged voter suppression so much so that they would not accept the

constitutional order of the electoral college victor being the president. >> sandra: byron york, thank you for joining us this morning. great to see you. >> thank you, sandra. >> trace: today marks 75 years since the u.s. dropped the world's first atomic bomb on hero sheema killing as many as 140,000 people and ended the second world war. groups of survivors used the anniversary to again demand that japan's government sign a treaty banning nuclear weapons worldwide and we'll be right back.

>> sandra: does it for us, trace. >> trace: great to see you. >> gillian: you, too. i'll see you tonight at 7:00 p.m. on "the story." things for joining us. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with this fox news alert. police in portland, oregon, have declared a riot again, two nights in a row, 70 for all the unrest. protesters tried to break into a police precinct, set fires outside of it, and then were shining leaders is tha police od vandalizing the build. this during yet another night of demonstrations in oregon's largest city, all of it in the city picking up after what has been a quieter weekend of protests, as federal agents drew down their operation.