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immune to this disease. >> why would ellie abou he l? how can we deal with a president who lies so much? >> the president of the united states who is charged with setting some level of standards for when kids go back to school, opined about his perspective, which is that kids are less susceptible. >> is it helpful for the patienpresident of to tell pares kids are immune from this and have it spreading from child to child. >> i think the president is making clear that overall the average age of those who pass from coronavirus is still at about 78, over 40% of those who have passed away were in long-term facilities or nursing homes. howie: facebook and twitter took down clips of the interview posted by the trump campaign, drawing criticism on fox's early morning show.

>> absolutely incredible. all the great doctors silicon valley will decide what is right and what is wrong. howie: pundit% pilin pundits n the president over this exchange with jonathan swan of axios. >> how, 1,000 americans are dying a day? >> they are dying. it's true. it is what it is. that doesn't mean we aren't doing everything we can. it's under control as much as can you control it. howie: joining us now to analyze the coverage, ben domenech, founder and publisher of the federalist, kristen soltis anderson, fox news contributor and joe trippi, a democratic strategist and host of the new podcast, that trippi show. is it fair for the media to rip the president for saying students, kids are almost immune, given that the cdc says children under 18 account for 7.4% of confirmed virus cases. >> i think the president obviously was talking about the

death rates that we're seeing among young children, which are incredibly low. and that's a very good thing. i think that obviously in this situation, he used the word immune as opposed to vulnerable or something like that. when we see the case counts that are there, obviously children are not immune to this disease. but they are not vulnerable to it the way the elderly are, those with significant health risks. that being said, the most concerning part of what you just said there in your opening there is the aspect of facebook and twitter, major media outlets, we do have to think of them as media entities, taking down clips of the presidential interview. to me, that's the most disturbing part of the story. whatever you think of the president and his politics, the people deserve to be able to hear what their president has to say. when he says something like that, even if they're fact checking it, saying that's not true, it is extremely troubling to me that any kind of entity,

especially one with the kind of power and facebook and twitter have, would eliminate that type of interview from the public eye as if it's something that needs to be shut down or eliminated from the conversation, as opposed to having more sun light on it. howie: what do you think of that point, kristen? facebook and twitter says it vie violates their policies about couped misinformation. as we know, they have accused the silicon giants being buy yafbiasedagainst the right. >> i think there should be a higher bar when it comes to taking down what the president himself says. what i really wish is that news about whether this disease is particularly a threat to certain populations was coming from our nation's scientific advisors. this is why, for instance, the controversy over dr. birx, over the last week where you first had nancy pelosi criticizing her and then you had donald trump

criticizing her, folks don't want to hear from politicians. they want to hear from those who are scientific experts. they want to hear the truth so they can gauge for themselves what is the risk to their school age children. i think that's the most important thing to take you away from all this. howie: trippi, for the president's detractors in the media, almost immune is kind of an upbeat talk he engages in when it comes to covid-19. for the president's supporters they feel he's countering media exaggeration about the magnitude of the pandemic. >> if you listen to the whole piece, he starts to say again, it's going to disappear, it's going to disappear. this goes all the way back to there's 15 cases and it's going to go to zero soon. i think the key word was immune. they're not immune. and there's no scientific group or medical professional out there who will make the case

that children are immune. and further, i think it is important for facebook and twitter and these social media -- when you start to use things like children are immune and that starts to move, there's a lot of damage that can be done from making that argument. so i think it's -- i do agree that it's problematic that that happened. i think it's something we all need to -- why shows like this, we should be talking about whether it was the right move or not for the social media firms to do, but there is a real question there when have you that kind of information flowing from the president of the united states, telling parents their children are immune from this. that's -- howie: the media can certainty critique that. the u.s. has passed 5 million cases, 160,000 plus deaths. on cnn last week, deborah birx said the virus was extraordinarily widespread,

rural and urban areas combined, prompting a presidential tweet. so nancy pelosi said horrible things about dr. deborah birx, going after her because she was too positive about the job we're doing. she said deborah took the bait and hit us p pathetic. she painted a more dire portrait of the state of the virus. that causes the president's media critics to say he's denying reality. >> i'm not trying to drill your show, but what joe said needs to be responded to. it sounds like he was endorsing the censorship i said was problematic. he said it was dangerous for the president to be spreading that kind of information. i don't think that's truth at awful i think this is a situation where you want more slight on these things -- sunlight on these things. are you saying this is a good thing they took down what the president of the united states was saying? >> that's not what i said at all. >> sounded like you were saying that. >> it sounds like a lot of things.

that's not what i was saying. i was saying that i think it's a good thing for this show to talk about, to have shows like this that talk about that because i think it is -- there's a big -- there's danger on both sides of what you're saying and what the president said. and i'm agreeing with what you're saying but i understand why people -- we need to have this debate and discussion about what this president says and the way the media is responding to it and again, social media, you're right, they are driving information. so they have a bigger responsibility and maybe it is for -- but they -- howie: i've got to move on. sorry to cut you off there. kristen, so now you have at different times the president of the united states publicly disagreeing with both anthony fauci and deborah birx. now, does that suggest to you, does it have an impact on public opinion or do you think the media are just playing up these feuds perhaps a bit too much? >> i wish folks wouldn't play up

these feuds because it's really important that there be a good relationship between the president and the scientific advisors and i know that the president watches a lot of shows like this, he watches a lot of news, he tries to take it all in. and when there are attempts to sort of stoke these divisions, i think it's bad for the country. i want our country's scientific advisors to be in the driver's seat on this, to have the ability to say what they think and to not worry if they come out and say the coronavirus is spreading widely that the president will be mad or if they say they think the president is doing a good job that the speaker of the house will come for them. i think we need to let the scientific advisors do their job. howie: let me get to yesterday's news. the president yesterday announcing executive order to provide $400 a week in jobless benefits, the $600 a week had expired, congress was unable to come to an agreement and let's take a look at a question that he got at that his new jersey

golf club. >> why did you decide on $400 when previously families were receiving 600, that will be a hardship for many? >> this is not a hardship. this is the money they need. this is the money they want. this gives them a great incentive to go back to work. howie: the president announced a temporary payroll tax cut for people making under 100k. don't media conservatives oppose unilateral action and executive orders of this magnitude by presidents. >> i think they generally do. i think in this circumstance, the situation that was facing conservatives was one where house democrats were going to demand everything and the kitchen sink in terms of getting this type of aid of out there to folks as they need it n were using the crisis to achieve other aims. in terms of the $400 that the president's talking about, 300 from the feds and $100 theoretically from the states, he's pulling on the disaster relief money that hasn't been

spent. that's something that i think will go to help folks that -- the question of whether $400 is enough. we saw personal household incomes increase in the last quarter according to analysis by a left of center economist, which is indicative that perhaps this is a level of money that will aid people but also maybe not prevent them from trying to go out and find work again. howie: you know, joe, the headline of liberal huffington post is trump relief defunds social security and medicare. people will still have to pay taxes after january. while the pundits debate the gee legality of all this. i bet the average american will say at least the president acted. >> i'm sure that's what the president wants to put out there by doing these executive orders. but the fact remains, he could have pushed republicans to go for 600. they don't think that's enough.

i mean, they think that's too much. on the payroll tax cut, there's not even a guarantee that people, this deferral of it, that they won't have to pay the whole thing next year. it's just a bunch of holes. it's a gimmick. it was -- literally by executive order, trying to act like he was in charge and trying to do things, the big question is legally whether he can even do it. howie: that may end up being tied up in the courts. gameic or not, a lot of people are hurting. ahead, greg gutfeld says what's on his mind when we come back, as president trump looks to aid an earlier debate and some say joe biden should skip the debates all together. that's next. we're at the movies and we need to silence our phone. who knows where that button is? i don't have silent. everyone does -- right up here. it happens to all of us. we buy a new home, and we turn into our parents. what i do is help new homeowners overcome this.

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demanding a fourth debate with joe biden in early september but the debate commission has rejected that request. the move comes as some media liberals are pushing the notion that biden should blow-off the fall debates. elizabeth drew joined the chorus the other day, writing that presidential debates should be scrapped because they're mostly about scripted one-liners. >> it's no surprise, a growing list of democrats are urging biden to skip the presidential debates, now even clinton's former white house spokesperson is begging biden not to show. >> he will take the truth and destroy it and biden will be in the position of correcting him over and over again. i don't think he should give him that platform. howie: that was former clinton spokesperson, joe lockhart. isn't it critical for pundits to say biden doesn't need to do the bates. it was written -- do the debates. some of these people, their

heads would have exploded if trump refused to debate hillary in 2016. >> this is a huge roll of the dice. i think a lot of people are not looking at this moment seriously. they're assuming that biden can just skate by. they look at the poll numbers and they think that he's far enough ahead. they don't want him to trip over anything or have any gaffes. and so they're engaging in this ludicrousness as if the president of the united states needs to be given a platform by being put on stage with his opponent. i think in this case, ultimately debates will happen but the fact that this is getting so much attention and so much serious consideration among people who we are supposed to treat as if they are intelligent commentators tells you how nervous they are about how the ways they could present a potential minefield for biden. howie: is there any other interpretation of the advice from some of these liberal pundits, other than we want joe to win and we don't want to take any risk that he might turn in a

bad performance? >> i think the risk of joe biden going through a debate, giving a bad performance, is in some ways less than the risk if he doesn't show up at all, that he's throwing away one of his po potentially strongest campaign attributes with swing voters, in that he's the guy that will return things to normalcy. joe biden is the guy, let's go back to the way things normally are. if you decide debates having you don't want to do, it's a disruption of people's ability to get information about how these two men head to head square off on key issues. i think it would be a huge disaster for the biden campaign, if they sat out the debates. america needs to see who their choices are. howie: i think we'll agree on that point. the trump campaign is setting the expectations so low for joe biden, suggesting he can't even string a couple sentences together. jason miller, campaign advisor, saying he's a pretty good debater. joe, the president in asking for this fourth debate, it's actually -- he has a decent

rational. he says all the early mail-in voting which he opposes, many people will have voted by late september, let's do it in early september. the media portraying this as a move by a nervous pundit. >> if i were the president, i would want more debates. whenever you're behind, that's what you want to try to do, get the person who is ahead of you into more debates. and hope by the way that joe biden will gaffe in one of them. but look, the reality is, there are going to be three debates. joe biden is going to show up. i think miller's -- whoever it was -- i can't remember now, they are clearly shifting from lowering expectations on joe biden, which was a massive mistake that they've done, to realizing better raise that bar because right now if biden goes

in there and just strings sentences together the whole way, he will have beaten the trump expectations game they they've set. howie: let me get to ben now. so joe biden is confirmed he's not going to milwaukee to give his acceptance speech. he'll do it in delaware. president trump says he'll probably give is, quote, acceptance speech at the white house, perhaps in the east wing. the media are being highly critical, saying the people's house should not be used at a partisan backdrop. your take? >> i think it was a pretty good argument that this was okay, given the context of the moment where you have all of the risks entailed with global pandemic, of traveling somewhere and all the logistics related to it. president reagan obviously announced his run for re-election from the white house. i do think there's a way to make that work. one of the real challenges that we have, howie, is in covering a

campaign that is really a non-campaign, i don't know if joe biden's going to have any campaign events between now and election day. i don't know if the debates might be the only thing that he does. and so it's a very odd situation where we're working in the dark and we don't have the normal things to look at. a lot of people made hay about the fact that hillary clinton didn't go to wisconsin in the 2016 election. this is a situation where you may not have joe biden going to any major key swing states and that ends up being something that makes all of this harder to predict. howie: might face a little criticism if he does that. the commission on presidential debates picks the mo raters. the trump -- moderators. the trump campaign submitted a list of 24 names they would like to see, including 10 people that work for fox, though no chris wallace. should the campaigns have input

into who mod rates the debates -- moderates the debates. >> there's a campaign involved that has to agree to participate. i've got to say, out of the list of the folks they said they want to moderate the debate, taking n mcdowell. i would watch that debate. she would leave no stone unturned. howie: thank you very much for coming by. up next, the president's threat to ban tiktok has taken a strange twist and upset millions of teenage girls. charlie gasparino is on deck. and a partner who listens and acts. humana calls it human care. it's talking to a doctor from your couch, or helping you find a cheaper prescription before you ask. it's helping you fix the rugs so you don't fall, and keeping you social, online or off.

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the app is in jeopardy after president trump said he would ban it, then seemed to authorize a sale to microsoft, and now has thrown a monkey wrench into a possible deal. joining us now, charlie ga gasparino. the media was stunned when the president made the argument that the u.s. government should get a cut in the sale between microsoft and tiktok. is it fair to say it's unusual and unprecedented. >> it's both. when you look at the executive order that he issued a couple days ago, essentially banning tiktok if they can't find a u.s. buyer within the next 45 days, it made no mention of the investment banking fee. it looks like he backed off that. that's typical trump. i think he was blowing smoke, whatever was off the top of his head, like listen, i'm making the deal happen, why can't the u.s. government benefit directly.

the u.s. government will benefit directly. if microsoft buys it, it is a u.s. company that will benefit from technology that began in china, a big thing for microsoft. we should point out that social media is the way news is being transacted these days. this is a big thing for a u.s. company to get a foothold into something that's like twitter, only it's video, it's twitter video, essentially. howie: tiktok has a huge and passionate following, especially among teenage and preteen girls including a member of my family so i know a lot about this. they dance, lip sync, do special effects, i imagine the president came under a lot of pressure not to just ban this outright, especially with a couple thousand u.s. jobs at stake as well. >> yeah, i think that's definitely in the mix. i think microsoft when the ceo of microsoft, mr. nadel, went to -- when he spoke with trump, i think he made that point that

this is good for the u.s. if he can buy this thing. the microsoft deal is no done deal. this is a heavy lift. they have to buy the company or a big chunk of the company, unclear if they're going just for the u.s. or the whole thing, and then they have to make sure it's secure, there's no chinese fingerprints in it and they have to convince the trump administration of that. there's lots of talk of other companies interested in tiktok and they clearly are -- we recorded facebook, google, the journal came out today and said twitter had a conversation with them. the best company that's positioned to buy them so you know, for all intents and purposes, microsoft n have the money. they have the technology. they can do this deal and still that's going to be a heavy lift. i find it fascinating that legacy media is not in on this. listen, i do know this about tiktok. my 12-year-old niece loves it. your kids may love it. it's a way to deliver news, it's going to be a way to deliver news. it does have potential beyond

generation z-ers if that's what they're called. legacy media should be claiming this and they're not. howie: well, most people on tiktok are not interested in politics. that could change. do you see legitimate national security concerns here, the president worrying about beijing getting access to data from users or is this largely about being tough on china in an election year? >> listen, the chinese are always looking for a leg up. if someone told you the chinese are trying to use the data for surveillance purposes, would you really argue that point? i think he's on pretty strong grounds with that how much of it they do, i can't tell you tiktok says they don't, the servers are in the us. i think the bigger point here is that this is a win for america if microsoft can do this deal because we would -- the president essentially would be arranging a transaction, he doesn't deserve an investment banking fee, to help a major u.s. company become stronger.

and that's an economic plus and, again, the other story is media, howie. in the old days the new york times should be putting a bid in. obviously they don't have the currency to. it tells you that media, social media, the way media is going to be transacted is essentially now the province of the big tech companies and that tells you a lot about what's going on. howie: huge. got to go. a media eruption over the president bringing religion into his latest attack on joe biden. greg gutfeld weighs in on that and much more, next. ♪ here's your iced coffee! ♪ america runs on dunkin'

howie: president trump made his most personal attack yet on joe biden, one that invokes religion, and much of the mainstream media are calling it an act of desperation. >> he's following the radical left agenda, take away your guns, destroy your second amendment, no religion, no

anything, hurt the bible, hurt god. he's against god. howie: joining us now from new york, greg gutfeld, co-host of the five, host of the greg gutfeld show and the author of the plus, self help for people who hate self help. i understand president trump charging joe biden will take your guns away. that's a standard attack line. the media is calling out for him saying he is against god. they are calling this shameful. are the media on biden's side? >> of course. any time you invoke religious criticism you will get handwritinhandhand-wringing of . the media can mock catholicism and kris christianity. when someone they don't like does it, it's sac sacreligious.

if someone comes after trump, he's will come after you. being surprised by his insults is like being surprised by a sunrise. joe biden conside criticized trn religion, on him being phony and it's just fair game. you're putting biden out there, he's going to be a target. my hands cannot be wringed over this, howie. howie: all right. i get your point. look, the media are often saying president trump said or did something erratic. for example, he's got a crusade against mail-in voting which the president portrays as potentially leading to fraud or chaos. then trump comes out and says well, mail voting is okay in florida and he's asked why, and he says they've got a good republican governor and the media pounce on it.

>> i think the wise way of portraying this problem is it's about capacity and not corruption. compare mail-in voting to how you had to deal with hospitals before the pandemic, which means you need to flatten the curve, i.e., ease the burr deb and we haven't done -- burden and we haven't done that. everybody has a right to be concerned. maybe florida is ahead of the game because they've done this more often. the fact is, we're not ready. we haven't flattened the burden for the postal service. it's a capacity issue. democrats should be worried too. if you're not going to have results on election day or a week after election day, we're heading into mass chaos and we should all admit that, that this could be really, really bad. so we have to find the most effective way to deal with this election. howie: yeah, that's troubling. i docket we'll know who -- doubt we'll know who the next president is going to be after election night and morning. as everybody knows, the president has been hammer the handling of the coronavirus,

especially since the surge began in june and july. on meet the press today, chuck todd says he's a president who has chosen to deny, dismiss and distract for too long on covid-19. what do you make of the the cont pounding? ic it's fair to say any president would find grai great difficulty dealing with a pandemic of this magnitude. >> is chuck still on tv. i don't think this worked out too well for him. the media portrays everything trump does as evil. you can't take their assessment of his covid response seriously especially when they said nothing at the start from cnn to the washington post, they played down the pandemic early on and they offered no path forward. their armchair quarterbacking needs to be dismissed. you can't compare our plan to the responses of other countries because, remember, we did the opposite of an autocracy.

the problem here, bottom line, the media cannot handle more than one data point. so they look at cases, but they don't look at age, death rates, population density, island versus not island or living situations in general. so you cannot take them seriously. this is a once in a lifetime event. and i think we achieved what we set out to achieve which was flatten the curve and try to control the death rate. howie: what you call armchair quarterbacking, a lot of people would call journalistic scrutiny. let me give aquick one. >> not me. howie: the press loves to accuse the president of shattering norms. he's going to give his acceptance speech probably at the white house. he did a press conference at his new jersey golf course and they say he shouldn't be doing that. does everything get dialed up to

11 with this president? >> the response from the medias has been dialed up to 433. their hair is on fire. you can actually see their hair from space because it's like a giant wildfire. you could see it from saturn. when your hair is on fire for four years, no one's listening to you. the greatest thing that trump did was he exposed what the media's really like. that they're an emotional moving tantrum and when things don't go their way, they come after you. howie: he said emotionally. let me ask you about your book, the floods, because you talk about -- >> i'm the opposite of emotion. i'm the opposite of emotion. how dare you, howie? howie: thank you for correcting me on that. in your book you talk about brain washing yourself into better behavior. i want to ask you about one line where you say resist the media's command to expand destructive narratives. so here's my question. how do you do that? why do the media push destructive narratives and are you and i and everybody else

part of that? >> i would say that right now the content, especially with the growth of social media is now discontent. if you can get people upset, they tend to click more. so a lot of the stories are framed in a way to kind of upset you. and i think that fox is the least offender because we are obviously fair and balanced and we're also very -- we're a positive -- we believe in the american people. i do not feel that way about the media, the rest of the mainstream media. i think they -- of the underlying profit model is discontent and d divisiveness. if we were at each other's throat the media can maintain the stranglehold on us. the minute we get rid of identity politics and intersectionality and bounding g taught together, the media would lose its power. i think once you understand it,

it becomes obvious. howie: i love this line from your publisher. >> they can't write. howie: greg gutfeld wants to be your new guru and he hates himself for it. you can hate yourself all the way to the bank. thanks for joining us. >> same here, bud. howie: after the break, joe biden gives a rare interview and talks his way into trouble, that and more in our campaign buzz segment.

howie: joe biden doesn't do many interview these days but things got rather tense during a discussion with ebs. s errol barnett. who asked whether he had taken a cognitive test. >> no, i haven't taken a test. why the hell would i take a test? come on, man. that's like saying to you, before you got on this program, did you take a test were you taking cocaine or not, what do you think, huh? are you a junkie? howie: joining us now, mara liasson, political reporter for npr and fox news contributor. seems like joe biden went off on this reporter. why didn't get this trumpian levels of coverage. i would argue the president got 1,000 more times attention for mispronouncing yosemite. >> i think this did get some coverage. don't forget, there were other biden gaffes that were competing with this one for attention.

also on that panel of black and hispanic journalists asked him what about openings to cuba, that's something that latino voters in florida really care about and he said well, unlike african-americans, latino voters are not a monolith, they have a diversity of views. they gaffes share a couple traits, always unprompted, gray gratuitous and are usually about african-americans. i mean, going all the way back to barack obama being clean and articulate. this is a theme. the question i have is -- well, of course how much attention are they going to get because trump dominates the media narrative so completely and utterly. joe biden gets left behind. howie: that was my point. >> also, are they going to matter? are they going to matter,. howie: let me jump in. whether they matter or not depends in part on how much attention the media devotes to such things, the example you gave, the second example about

the latino community, biden had to apologize for. my follow-up question is, is this part of the reason that maybe his advisors are kind of keeping him off the interview circuit? >> there's no doubt that keeping a low profile has worked for him because so far, this election has been a referendum on the incumbent. that doesn't mean it's going to continue. donald trump is trying hard and spending tens of millions of dollars to turn this race into a binary choice. maybe it will get there. i think the pace is quickening. biden is giving more interviews, he interacted with reporters just there and there were two gaffes in the event. plus, we're going to get to the conventions and september and october. but the question is, if these gaffes have already been figured into biden's stock price or not. i think they do get attention. but don't forget, you've got someone who says something outray just -- outrageous almost

every day. that's trump. he doesn't have gaffes. he has a different issue. he dominates the media so completely that i think even those these things are reported about joe biden, they just don't get as much traction. howie: well, i don't think the former vice president is doing many interviews at all and the contrast here -- >> not as many as trump. he hasn't sat down with chris wallace and jonathan swan. howie: exactly. >> i agree with you, he's not but he's doing a little bit more. the minute he came out, a little bit more, he made some gaffes. howie: the factual record would support that. let me ask you the same question i asked greg pu gut field. meamedia are pounding the fact t president trump said biden is against god. the media says the president is not a regular church goer, is

that taking sides. >> i really wish religion -- the personal religious beliefs and practices of candidates would stay out of it but i think that to say that joe biden will take away your guns is one thing. to say that joe biden will hurt god and is against god, i just think kind of is like flailing. i think the media was right to point out that that was kind of over the top and to ask why would trump go that far. howie: well, one of the things the president does, he sometimes uses over-the-top or what can be described asove as over-the-top rhetoric to get the media to cover it for five days, instead of five hours, thereby getting more attention. somebody who spent a lot of time at the white house, do you think the medi mead media flak is ward againsabout the president doinge acceptance speech from the south lawn or the west wing or

wherever. >> i think the media is right to raise the question where in the white house complex that it is legal to do this. i think they will work this out. i don't think it's that big a deal. howie: but the media are making it kind of a big deal. never before has this sort of thing happened. >> some of the media. it's not across the board. yes, i think those who are making it into a huge deal are probably like going too far. howie: thank you for reminding us that the media are not a mono lith. >> i like to do that. howie: still to come, ellen degeneres apologizes to her staff, a cnn contributor does an event for joe biden, and the passing of a ledge dairy -- ledge dairy newsman -- legendary newsman.

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this, but it's world kindness day. [ cheering and applause ] howie: ellen degeneres is having a rough time, warner media is conducting an internal probe of allegations of a toxic work environment and sexual misconduct by two top executives. ellen told her staff in a memo that she wanted her though be a place of happiness, no one would raise their voice, everyone would be treated with respect. obviously something changed. i'm disappointed to learn that has not been the case and for that i am sorry. ellen plans to return for the fall season. her image of niceness has clearly been marred. anna novaro hosted an event for joe biden's campaign in florida the other day, navarro helped lead a roundtable discussion with a top biden official and couple democratic lawmakers on the candidate's agenda for the la di at this know community -- latino community. quote, some contributors choose to support candidates at political events or with their

wallets, they're transparent about the causes and can candids our contributors will support. i've been critical of this sort of thing at all the cable networks. i think it passes a line. pete hamill was a tabloid titan, maybe the last of the jimmy breslin era of gritty new york columnists. he once dated jackie o and interviewed john lennon. newspapers were in his blood. >> papers gave a sense of meaning that was a binding almost, you could see it on the subway, were you trying to help the new arrivals to understand the city and the older people to understand the new arrivals. howie: i was lucky to get to know pete hamill. the most fun i ever had in journalism was speaking into the new york post, a couple decades ago, after a whacky owner fired

hamill and the rest of the staff. i watched as dozens of employees cheered and bear hugged hamill as they led a newsroom occupation, they installed themselves in the editor's office and put out an edition, trashing the owner. pete hamill was 85. what a life he led. that is it for this edition of media edition. i'm howard kurtz. let's consider the conversation on twitter, at howard kurtz. check out my podcast, media buzz meter. you can subscribe at apple itunes, google podcast. a couple students got suspended at a georgia high school that just reopened for postin post ps of a very crowded hallway, with no one seeming to wear masks. the suspensions have now been lifted and unfortunately nine people have tested positive at that school, kind of an owe men that we will grapple with as

some of the schools in the country struggle with the question of reopening. thank you all for watching. we are back here next sunday, 11:00 eastern. you know the time. we'll see you then with the latest buzz. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. free your gut, and your mood will follow.

leland: president trump taking action when congress could not. he's extending the unemployment payments for upwards of 30 million americans who have been hit so hard by the coronavirus pandemic. but you know, it's a bit complicated. the white house says it can redirect unspent funds to do this. but questions remain on whether or not the executive orders are legal under the constitution. hello, welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm eric shawn. hi, arthel. arthel: hi gen everyone, i'm arthel neville. the president says he's confident his actions will survive any legal challenges but house