>> trace: sandra, great show. >> sandra: that was a wednesday for you. more news coming up. "outnumbered" is next. >> this is a fox news alert, joe biden and his newly selected running mate kamala harris going to make their very first appearance together at an event in delaware this afternoon just a couple of hours from now. harris becoming the first black and asian woman to run on a major party ticket. but not long after that announcement, and president trump pointing to what he calls harris' underperformance in the democratic primary. he is surprised that joe biden would choose his former rival after she criticized him so fiercely. listen. >> she was very, very nasty. she was very disrespectful to

joe biden. and it's hard to pick somebody that is that disrespectful when she said things during the debates, during the democratic primary debates that were horrible about sleepy joe. >> and of course the moment i got the most attention, harris laying into biden at the first democratic debate on his school desegregation efforts. watch. >> to hear you talk about the reputation of two united states senators who built their reputation and career on segregation of race in this country, and it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose -- and there was a little girl in california was part of the second class to integrate her public school. and she was bused to school every day. and that little girl was me. >> that's a mischaracterization

of my position across the board. >> than last year senator harris on the campaign trail said she believes all women in including those who oppose joe biden and in inappropriate behavior. this is "outnumbered," i am gillian turner, here is fox business anchor dagen mcdowell. host of kennedy on fox business kennedy, and executive director and fox news contributor marie harf, also joining us today, you may recognize him, it is fox news chief political anchor bret baier, also the anchor of "special report." what an awesome couch we have today, i will come to you first. i think the big question now is does this choice shake up the status quo? does it change it for the trump campaign or for the millions of americans who have not yet decided who they are going to vote for. >> bret: good afternoon, i want to start off with a

complement for marie harf, "fox news sunday" she made the pick, this is the pick that joe biden should make and the pick that he would make, so kudos to you, you put $100 on kemal haider harris and you won. so there is an excitement level on the democratic side after this, i said yesterday it puts die-hard democrats and the party faithful at ease, but it is more than that. we just confirmed that to the biden campaign brought in $10.8 million in the first four hours after this announcement was made that the biden's biggest campaign was $11 million with former president barack obama. so potentially, and likely they are going to tax the data before we get to 2:00 hour in this rollout. i think that there are legitimate concerns about her ability as a campaigner, kamala harris' ability, it did not translate to presidential campaign, but i think for the

biden campaign i see real upsides in a number of prompts primarily as a prosecutor of the case against donald trump. >> gillian: she has not yet been a senator for three years, but she does now have this voting record, she has this legislative history that is going to get combed over, not just by the trump campaign, but by millions of americans around the world who are now equal or -- eager to familiarize themselves with her. >> bret: the nonpartisan and puts her in 2019, her senate voting record as the most liberal senator as far as votes go. from 2017-2019, her time in office, she is number two behind elizabeth warren. if you are just going by her votes, it is easy to say this is how she has voted in her job. i think it's harder to pin her down in part, because nobody can pin her down on the big issues on the presidential campaign. and that is in one sense a good thing for the biden campaign.

it's a blank slate, it's joe biden running, and the other sense it will get some criticism from insiders. >> gillian: on that point, some on the left are not entirely happy with biden's pit, former press secretary for bernie sanders tweeting we are in the midst of a largest protest movement in american history, the subject is excessive policing and the democratic party chose a top cop and the author of the joe biden crime bill to save us from trump. "the new york times" is characterizing the senator as a centrist writing that harris is both a pragmatic who has spent most of her career as a prosecutor. that drew swift pushback from several conservatives including less from national committee senior advisor matt whitlock who says, i'm sorry, what if she moderate on? she supported medicare for all, late-term abortion, pet tax cuts, there is nothing moderate about her. so marie, what is the truth to

democrats? is she this pragmatic moderate candidate, or is she president trump calls her a socialist? >> marie: she is certainly not a socialist. i think she is best described as a progressive who appeals to moderates and independents for a number of reasons. most democrats you can't put into one bucket of just progressive or just moderate. and she is a really good example of that. she has been criticized for something she did as attorney general of california, but she champion sentencing reform, so she made a calculation that the best way to affect change on big issues like racial justice is to do so from inside the system. and i know you read the tweet from bernie sanders former campaign staffer, but there are thousands, tens of thousands of tweets over the past 12 hours from black women, women of color, asian women, not even women, a lot of men as well who

are so fired up by this pick, because she has an impressive record that has been vetted nationally already, which is important. she brings enthusiasm and a political constituency of her own to this ticket. and she is a fierce and tough fighter. we have seen are out there on the campaign trail taking all of those talents that she has used against joe biden in the primary, or against people like brett kavanaugh in the senate. taking that and training that on team trump are something that a lot of democrats are ready to see. people are very excited for the most part. >> gillian: she is undoubtably fierce and tough. it is something to behold on the debate stage when she went after joe biden. since she dropped out of the race, kennedy, she has made this concerted effort to rebrand herself. to take the focus off of failed candidacy and come back at somebody who is going to be really a staunch advocate for the racial justice movement. at this moment she has her name on a bill that would potentially

band choke holds and no knock arrests, and racial profiling, what you make of that? >> kennedy: i think in the words of joe biden, it is malarkey. she is all over the map. if she is completely inconsistent. she has been on the wrong side of a essentially every issue. whether it is medicare for all coming on the green new deal, or going back to her time as a district attorney and attorney general in california. where there was one man, who was incarcerated wrongly for 13 years, and kamala harris wanted to keep him in jail, because he did not provide proof of his innocence in a timely enough manner. there was also a woman who had a daughter with sickle cell anemia ms 29 days of school and could not get notes from her doctor every time and kamala harris hunted her down and made her life a living for two years. because she was a big proponent of this anti-charge in

california that went after minority and low income families particularly single moms. an important record on legalization, tulsi gabbard really poked holes in kamala harris' candidacy when she showed how many people had been incarcerated. e of her antimarijuanaans push. but then she had no problem giggling about it with charlamagne tha god on the breakfast club. and saying that she herself smoked marijuana. i don't care what she does in her free time. she is incredibly inconsistent paired she was a heavy-handed prosecutor. angie tried to shellac the record with some nice words in her autobiography. and i hope people really take a look at some of the specifics, because she harmed tens of thousands of individuals in california, and that record is inexcusable. >> gillian: inconsistent as you say as a criticism we have

seen levied at her time and time again over the last two -- i don't even know if it is 24, just under 24 hours since biden announced her. one thing she doesn't have a mixed bag record on is her stance in favor of believing women, women who are victims of sexual assault and inappropriate behavior, she kind of came to the nation's attention after the brett kavanaugh hearings when she tussled with senate judiciary committee chuck grassley and said, that she believed her. what you make of her stance on women? >> dagen: to marie's point in terms of the support you have seen on women online, my close friend rhonda reminded me of this in terms of the energy and the excitement of that harris brings to the ticket, that she not only graduated from howard university, but she is a

member of aka, alpha cal bought alpha, the first black sorority. there is an incredible amount of power, strength, and energy among the a.k.a. look for their colors, pink and green all over the place. and my friend rhonda was on the horn yesterday after this ticket was announced with some of her fellow a.k.a.s talking about how they are getting out the vote, what they are going to do in swing states. and you have to throw in all of the historically black colleges and universities at how those individuals who graduated from the schools could unite around kamala harris. and if people take her to be as progressive as she is professing and as progressive as she seems based on her voting record, this could really help joe biden paired remember with hillary clinton in the bernie sanders motors, bernie sanders voters, 12% of them from the primary supported president trump.

less than 80% came out for hillary clinton. in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, voters back to bernie sanders. there were 260,000 backers from the senators who came out for president trump in the fall. and that was well over twice the margin of victory for president trump in those three states. michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. so if the progressives come out and you have a rally of support among members of the black community and the sororities and fraternities, it could be a great turnout for biden and harris. >> gillian: the trump campaign is to a certain degree already is painting her, painting harris as a far left radical ideologue, cut from the same cloth as folks like alexandria ocasio-cortez. is that going to stick as we move forward through the rest of the race? >> bret: it is their playbook. if you look at the voting record, they can point to that. however it's a little bit tougher as i mentioned at being california's top cop,

california's ag, the district attorney in san francisco. i think it provides problems on the left side of the democratic party a little bit more since joe biden was already defending the 1994 crime bill. all of that being said, let's just say that this is historic, and for democrats in particular, they love the fact that this is the first woman of color on a national presidential ticket. and for a young black girl or a young asian girl, the ability to say, you can be this is a powerful message. and that crosses democratic and republican. >> gillian: wait to put a button on it. thank you, bret could we can stick with harris for the rest of the show, but we have to move on. an organ district attorney is announcing that he is going to drop charges against hundreds of people arrested during protest in portland. why he says this is the best way to bring about change. we will debate next. at visionworks, we know there's lots of things you've been avoiding. like people... and pants.

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>> dagen: noma county, oregon, district attorney mike schmidt saying his office will not prosecute hundreds of protesters who have been arrested for nonviolent offenses during the demonstrations in portland that have carried on for more than 70 straight nights. listen. speak of these demonstrations are being used to righteously express grief, anger, and frustration over that senseless act of violence. and the countless other abuses people of color have endured throughout history at the hands of the criminal legal system. >> dagen: acting dhs secretary chad wolf suggesting this is exactly the type of thing allowing the unrest to continue. >> what we know about portland is that they fostered an environment that allows this type of violence to go on.

this has nothing to do with the peaceful protest that we see in portland. nothing to do with that national dialogue that we talk about regarding george floyd's death and police, law enforcement practices. what we saw in portland, that violence is just criminal activity and we need to call it that. >> dagen: kennedy, you are from oregon, close by, if they were arrested, didn't they commit a crime? >> kennedy: no, not according to beauty make beard sin, i'm always concerned that they are trump operatives, because they want the violence and unrest to continue. they want these images. because between a pandemic in a race war it is very bad news for the president. the economy is still cratering. the only thing that he has right now are pictures from places like portland, so they are doing him a big favor, because they are not just incentivizing some of the riots. and he is not getting past protesters literally and there

are things you cannot get trump for is writing, he talks about freedom of movement, you cannot go out in portland at night anymore, because that's when all of this starts. i don't have a problem with getting protesters of voice and changing the system and may be reimagining policing in various communities. that is up to them. that's fine. my problem is when you lump in people who log of molotov cocktails at police officers who have kids and people who are peacefully protesting. when you consider all of the same thing when you make a very clumsy nondifferentiation, you do great harm to your community long term. so mike schmidt can put a cork in his beard as far as i am concerned. >> dagen: well, bret does not have a beard. what do you think?

calling crimes that only caused financial harm will be dismissed after paying restitution or making amends. so let's not even count that as a crime. victimless crimes, they are called. >> bret: that is the clarification, i think. people saying that today are not going to arrest anybody or move forward prosecutions on anyone, he is saying that it does not involve destruction of property, theft, or use of threats or force against someone. okay. splitting hairs here, but the bottom line is that the image of not going forward or not clearing streets or not taking control of the situation does to kennedy's point benefit what president trump was saying about law and order and about trying to establish law and order. if you look at these big cities, there is a real concern. on a purely political point of view, the president does not have to tweet like he does about "suburban housewives." it's understood that mom's, in

2004, president george w. bush had a campaign about security moms, but he did not directly say that. it is an issue. insecurity and peace in the streets does benefit law and order candidate, potentially. we will see if it translates this time. >> dagen: but people, marie, i've called that this potentially could be the election of public safety. because in 36 of the 50 largest cities in this country, homicides, and obviously we are not talking about homicides, but they have increased by double digits. and that is front and center for many people across the country. >> marie: and at the same time, in those cities, other kinds of violent crime are actually down, so we have talked on this network about why that might be, but what i think they are trying to do in portland is focus the prosecutions on the violent behavior and focus their

attention and energy there, and not on people who were arrested for nonviolent crimes. i'm not saying that they are doing it perfectly. but i think that that is within the prosecutor's ability to say we only have a limited number of you know, people we can charge and prosecute in any day, week, month. we want to focus on the really violent folks, but also most americans, they see what they see on tv, with their communities and they feel safe. i live in the middle of a major city in washington, d.c., and it's very odd with the language that president trump is putting out about the city on fire, because so much of this is contained to a couple of parts of a couple of cities. and that's why i'm not too sure that the overall message will resonate with folks who look at him and say, what are you talking about? yes, we know the statistics -- >> kennedy: come to the upper west side, and i will give you a tour of what is going on in some of those parts, because it is not safe. we have in hotels next to schools. not 1,000 feet, a block away.

>> dagen: one of who raped a 4-year-old child. and i can introduce you to one of our coworkers who got attacked on the way to work. i will finish with you, people see this front and center. i want to point out that a lot of these crimes might be down, the very nonviolent crimes like shootings and murder as greg gutfeld has pointed out, because those crimes don't even get reported. it's the murderers that almost 100% of them are reported to the police and logged. but final thought from you. >> gillian: last week while testifying on capitol hill, the acting secretary of homeland security chad wolf told senators that right now decisions, law enforcement officers, police are making on the ground in real time in cities and small communities are ricocheting across the nation. same goes for decisions made by district attorney's office is about whether or not to prosecute people under the fullest extent of the wall. so one worry here, dagen, one

concern is that these particular decisions are specific to portland and spread across the nation and are used as a precedent. when you start having police officers nationwide not arresting folks that should be arrested when you have district attorneys not prosecuting people under the fullest extent of the law it gets hairy very quickly. >> bret: harry like beardy ml1 cbeardson. apparently. >> dagen: that's a big mike drop, bret. impacting coverage of the upcoming campaign? tg♪ veterans can shortcut the refinance process and save $250 a month. $3000 dollars a year. with the va streamline refi at newday, there's no appraisal, no income verification, and no out of pocket costs.

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social media platform tick-tock used a -- that practice ended in november, and the chinese owned company claims it does not share user data with the chinese governme government. in maryland, the man who was shot b by a secret service offir on white house grounds monday has been charged with assaulting an officer. the suspect is in stable condition in a local hospital. secret service says the suspect told the officer he had a weapon and was about to use it. by the authority to search the person afterwards did not find a gun. >> i am just being told we have a pick, and it is kamala harris of california. for the record, those applause weren't from claire mccaskill. >> people wanted to be around her. there was a charisma, a fascination, for lack of a better word, a bit of celebrity surrounding kamala harris. >> the first black woman, the first south asian woman named to

a presidential ticket, it is a big deal. >> gillian: some members of the media gushing over joe biden's choice of kamala harris as his running mate, applause breaking out at msnbc. brian williams making sure to point out that applause came from network analyst and former democratic senator claire mccaskill. this is not your first rodeo, what is the first and foremost responsibility of journalists covering a campaign like this? >> bret: to be fair and be fair to both sides. and there is some forgetfulness, may be purposefully to kamala harris' campaign, these same folks covered that. remember that senator harris got out of the presidential campaign december 3rd 2019. she did not make it till christmas. that's two months before the iowa caucuses.

she got out, because she was considered not a good campaigner and did not raise any money. now to hear some in the media say that she is an amazing retail campaigner and she had this magnetism that drew people to her, i just think this regards and disregards how the campaign ended. she can be a very effective prosecutor. in committee hearings, she can take the fight to donald trump, which is what the biden campaign wants her to do, but the kind of re-picture her presidential campaign is a little disingenuous. >> gillian: yeah, dagen, as bret says there is the emotion and there is the political reality, is it unfair for so many folks in the media to now reimagine the success of her lost campaign? >> dagen: they are being lazy. i'm not talking about the people at this network, but again,

let's look back at the personality analysis that some members of the media did with hillary clinton, that they were so delirious and dizzy from their own bubble of hot air, that they could not see and acknowledge the likability problems with hillary clinton, the compete lack of authenticity. in the meantime, they would go on and on, maybe it is because some of the personality is of this network are the human equivalent to -- nonetheless, then at the same time they were talking about trump voters as if they were hasty and rednecks, and clinging to the bibles and their guns. so if you're going to analyze things on the surface, i would say a lot of the people in the media just get it wrong. >> gillian: so harris is a historic candidate by virtue of the fact of who she is, her identity. marie, where is the dividing line between having some excitement about that, but not

to gushing over her candidacy? >> marie: i think it is certainly fair to point out that she is a historic nominee and that many people are responding to that with enthusiasm. that is a fact. that is not opinion. i think that the reason her campaign from all accounts did not do well was not because of her as a person. they raised quite a bit of money, they just spent too much money. it seemed to be poorly managed. there was a lot of infighting. the time she did best was when she was on debate stages and interviews are on the ground with folks in retail politics. that's where she tends to shine. and i think that we have to remember when we are talking about the media that there is a big difference between reporters and commentators. and claire mccaskill applauding for her selection is no different than republicans on this network or others who are excited about mike pence in their role as potus and commentators, so we just have to remember that as we look at the media, media roles are not all

the same. >> gillian: good point, i think that's why brian williams was so quick to point out that it was an analyst who did the applauding. we have to leave it there, joe biden is the oldest presidential candidate in history making. his own history. he is picking a running mind -- running mate who is a generation or more younger. is it new between trump and harris? we will debate next. ♪

speak to "the new york post" cover this morning reads this "comrades, biden picks harris as president in waiting." riding in this, many think that she would wind up as president even before biden finishes a first term. bottom line when americans pulled the lead in november, their choice will be in effect between president trump and kamala harris. and cnn's editor at large riding

this "what biden did is maximize his chances to make the race a straight referendum on trump, while selecting someone in harris whose resume suggests will be ready to step in if and when biden steps aside. karl rove put it like this, biden is a candidate, he should be the target. kamala harris is along for the ride, does that make sense? >> bret: after a few days of coverage it will be joe biden, the candidate, and we will have a rollout of the convention next week where joe biden will be the focus, and today's spotlight on kamala harris right now will obviously factor into the convention next week, but in reality it will be that first general election debate where joe biden and donald trump are on the same stage, we believe, where the voters will really for the first time have this stark choice in a combat situation,

and i think more than any other year, that first general election debate is going to make a difference for a lot of folks. a lot of people already decide where they are already, and the country is split. it is that deciding middle part of the country, disaffected republicans, may be conservative democrats, how that all plays out, a lot will be joe biden. and that is who the candidate is, not kamala harris. >> dagen: i want to bring this up, because "the wall street journal" called the democrats choose harris kind of touches on this as well. they don't go as far as saying it is trump versus harris, but they say that it was important because joe biden would be 78 on inauguration day, potentially the oldest president on that day, his declining mental acuity suggests he would not run for reelection. is it possible that people are making that choice?

>> marie: i think it didn't matter for the reasons you outlined the president's age, i don't give credence to the mental acuity argument, but the number one job for a vice president is to be able to step in on day one if they are needed to come and i think that that is one of the reasons they pick someone with so much experience like kamala harris. to the other thing that he -- i agree with bret about the first debate that will be very important. the trump campaign has found it difficult to pin joe biden down in a message on him in a way that resonated the way that it did in 2016 with hillary, and we saw that with kamala yesterday put half of the republicans were arguing that she is aoc incarnated, and how if were arguing she is too tough as a top cop and can't bring progressives along. that is a challenge for the trump campaign going forward. >> dagen: what karl rove was talking about, if you go to the president into continuing to attack harris, then it continues to be smooth sailing for

joe biden. >> kennedy: i would like to say that the president and kamala harris could debate one on one, that would be fascinating. and i agree with marie, i don't think the administration has been good about identifying their weaknesses and really honing in on what the attack coordinates are for biden and harris. the pick is not a surprise. it is not necessarily overwhelming. i know that a lot of democrats are trying to sell it as the second coming, but if you pick a candidate who might not even -- by his own admission finish his first term -- won't commit to running for a second term. that is a bad candidate. that is a bad nominee. >> dagen: just one final thing, i will add that members of the campaign don't help joe biden when he is starting to get in the weeds in the interview with charlemagne, and they are like helicopter

campaigning in the background trying to hustle him out of away from the camera, that plays into what "the new york post" is talking about. >> gillian: bret is right at the first debate is going to reset everything. to the playing field will start to see approval ratings changing and adjusting in reaction to that. my personal perspective based on working in two presidential administrations is that the vice president is always underrated. we are talking about once they are in office, not on the campaign trail. once a president is in office, the vice president has a hugely consequential role to play not only because they are often in the west wing most days they have the president year on those days more than some of the top staff sometimes. they also have their own

distinct policy agendas that they can try to push through, so whoever the vice president is in any administration is hugely consequential. people should pay attention. >> dagen: i can think of a couple of vice presidents who should be underrated, but i won't mention them, it's not just vulnerable senate republicans who are worried about the consequences of returning home without passing the coronavirus stimulus bill. the concern is to some freshman democrats that today are reportedly raising and what they want to party leaders to do about it. ♪ ♪ ♪

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>> kennedy: freshman districts are calling to their party leaders to hammer out a coronavirus stimulus bill. they are worried about the impact it could have at the polls if they don't get something done. new york congressman max robe saying "i share the concerns that i am hearing from my constituents. i'm angry at this point it's a middle finger to the american people." language, max. so, marie, i will ask you how vulnerable are some of the use democrats and swing districts whose constituents are not necessarily married to either party? >> marie: the 40 plus democrats who won maxis in 2018, many of them are in swing districts that will have tougher elections. and i do think that we are getting to the point where

democrats may need to accept a much smaller relief package so that we get something through. and then it is up to them to message to the tech to it why republicans are the ones who prevented them from actually doing more, because we are really at a stalemate here. republicans wasted two months not coming to the negotiating table, but we are getting close to a point where they are is a fox on both your houses, and we need to deliver for the american people. and these freshman and tough districts know that. and they are making that clear. it will be interesting to see what speaker pelosi does in response. >> kennedy: is not just speaker pelosi, it's also steve mnuchin and mark meadows who have been negotiating with democrat leadership on capitol hill. so who is any tougher spot? is it those house democrats and swing districts? the freshman members? or the senator democrats who are

having a tough time? >> bret: i think that marie is underselling, i think we are past the point where it's a fox on both your houses, people emailing me a message in me is that both parties stink, and is incapable. of working on the big things. and it becomes a political match, the closer that we get to an election. you can criticize the president for the executive order efforts and say that it is unconstitutional, and will be challenged in the court, and you have heard that from both democrats and people like ben sasse and republicans, but from a political point of view, what he did was he changed the dynamic. so now the democrats are saying that they are going to take him to court on his executive order to provide to hex sling and check super money redistributed. but by doing that to the onus is on democrats to say, where are you? are you at the table or not? and it changed the whole political dynamic. i think that both parties are in trouble of something big not get through or at least something

get through on capitol hill and i think that it's not a good sign for washington. >> kennedy: i think that you are absolutely right. people are completely fed up and are so over this sort of leadership where all you are trying to do is hurt the other political party instead of doing what is best for the country. so how can they navigate this? >> gillian: i think the white house has long insisted that president trump is doing this because he is stepping up at a key moment for the american people to try and do what he can, and may not be a perfect solution. it may be a solution that invites a tussle in the courts. congress says, this is just a president doing something for show, making another run around lawmakers. but at the end of the day, people are losing their jobs, and their homes and their insurance, they are not sure if their kids are going to school. they are fearful of getting si sick. >> dagen: i must point out

that the burden is on the administration at this point, because they are out promising people getting more money whether it is a payroll tax deferral and extra unemployment benefits, 400 extra total from 600, if that money does not come out, that will hurt this administration and employers are not sure about how to defer the payroll taxes. >> kennedy: and on that point, we have to go, unfortunately, it appears at least some teams are going to play college football, enough of the political football. to the big 12 conference decides to move forward with the season, but should the contact sport be played at all? if there is no vaccine? that's up next. ♪ n veteran homeowners today's record low mortgage rates have dropped even lower. use your va benefits now at newday and save $250 a month -- $3000 a year. the va streamline refi lets you shortcut the refinance process. there's no appraisal or income verification,

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their seasons to the spring. start clemson quarterback trevor lawrence and other high-profile players taking to twitter using the hashtag #wewanttoplay. this would mean they would would be another asterix date of daisy's season just like baseball. >> bret: don't think that this does not get into politics, because football is big politics wherever you are depending on college football, coach steve spurrier had a quote yesterday, which he said the acc and the fcc should just play their seasons and then face offer a national championship, because it was going to be one of those conferences anyway. and that hits the heartland, and expect this to be a big issue how this plays out. >> dagen: being an acc girl, woman myself, marie, what do you think? >> marie: i want them to play safely. i am an ohio state buckeyes fan, there's nothing more than i want to watch college football on saturdays this fall, but it is

not safe. let's all get ready for spring football. >> dagen: she even paints her fingernails the ohio state university read. >> gillian: i am not a huge football guy personally, but i was reading and so that i would have something substantive to tell you guys and it turns out not to be too graphic, but one of the sticking points is the scientists say they are not sure about the transmissibility of the virus through water, a.k.a. through human sweat. and that is the last frontier in terms of like keeping these players safe. they can put the masks on, they can social distance on the field, face shield, they have to get to the bottom of water transmissibility. >> dagen: kennedy is not afraid to sweat. his >> kennedy: no, i'm not afraid to put on the pads and go in, so chip kelly wants me there as a free safety, i'm good. >> dagen: i am serious, kennedy can kick all of our you know what's. thank you, everybody. especially to bret baier, it was great to spend the hour with

you. now here is julie banderas in for harris faulkner. ♪ >> julie: fox news alert, we are waiting joe biden and kamala harris' very first appearance together as a presidential ticket this afternoon. so stay tuned for that, big hour ahead. this is "outnumbered overtime," i am julie banderas and for harris faulkner. kicking off in delaware as many democrats are now keeping praise on the vp pick including former president obama who says "joe biden nailed this decision." but republicans slamming harris accusing her of pushing a far left agenda. here is white house counselor kellyanne conway, watch. >> this is a woman who is for abortion in the ninth month, against the second amendment, against parts of the first amendment, frankly. the democrats rejected her. she pulled out of the race before a single vote was cast. it was democratic voters in the primary caucuses who had rejected