if these policies are implemented, it'll destroy liberty and freedom, and these promises will never be fulfilled. i'm hosting a live virtual event seven eastern tomorrow, just go to open up books and greetings.com, hannity.com, and 40% off today on the book, let not your heart be troubled, governor huckabee in for laura tonight, governor, great to see you. >> governor huckabee: i'm excited for your book. >> sean: you know, governor, it's more important, i've never seen a more radical -- more radical agenda, new green deal, no choice for health care, antipolice, even, supporting anarchists, wow. and every socialist -- get rid of oil and gas? i'm afraid for the country, governor. 83 days. >> governor huckabee: we ought to be afraid for the country, but hopeful that america -- >> sean: always --

>> governor huckabee: congrats on a wonderful book. i'm mike huckabee -- can you bet. bet. i mike huckabee in for laura ingraham tonight, and this is "the ingraham angle." we have a packed lineup tonight and you are not going to want to miss a moment. why? it's what your friends are going to be talking about tomorrow, so buckle up and sit tight. rudy giuliani is going to join us on how kamala harris could use the doj as a tool for revenge and retribution. and president trump today asked an important question that a lot of parents and taxpayers are asking. if a school is closed, how come they are getting the money? why not give it to the students who are scrambling to get their education, and education secretary betsy devos is here exclusively, she'll tell us more. and it's wednesday, you know what that means. raymond arroyo joins us for biden and kamala, "seen and unseen." he will bring us all of the moments no one else has been able, or may be willing to you.

but first, last night, laura laid out much of what you need to know in order to honestly and objectively assess kamala harris as a career politician. but the media is flagrantly lying about who she really is. remember yesterday, "the new york times" called her a "pragmatic moderate." george stephanopoulos obediently echoed that line earlier today. let's watch. >> kamala harris comes from a middle of the road, moderate wing of the democrat party, not the first choice of progressiv progressives. >> mike: that's an interesting way to describe the woman who ranked as the most liberal member of the senate in 2019. how moderate is it to support socialized medicine? war mask gun confiscation. she wants open borders and then wants to give free health care for those who came over illegally. that something most taxpaying

american workers don't get. today, "politico" one-upped the ante, claiming senator harris definitely hops between the democratic party's shifting tectonic plates. that is swamped speak for "she's in on fanciful careerist who will do or say whatever she needs to in order to gain power." that is why she can pay homage to radical leftists marching through our city streets and then share a toast with wall street executives later that night. she has brought together the amazons of the world with the anarchists. she works the levers of power whenever she can. kamala is the only candidate to ever openly endorsed by cnn president jeff zucker. back in 2009, "kamala is not just important for the city of san francisco, the state of california, but with the entire country." how do you figure cnn's coverage is going to be slanted? probably just as objective as

always, which means one big biased bag of balloon juice. bottom line: this is a vice presidential nominee who has confirmed the worst-kept secret of the new democrats, they have left most of america behind, and it's time for folks to wake up and realize it. joining me now, sara carter, fox news contributor and host of "the share card are still" podcast. former california congressman darrell issa, who spent a lot of years in the california delegation with kamala harris. sara, this is the woman who would really be running things, most likely, if joe biden were to win in november, so what would that mean for most americans? >> well, absolutely, governor huckabee, this would be the woman running things, because even vice president joe biden has said that himself, he understands that he's aging, that this is somebody that he wants to put in place, and what it would mean as a radical agenda, and somebody who is a chameleon. she transforms herself whenever

she wants into whatever she wants. you talk about cnn, think about what she said on cnn -- i believe it was april 2019 -- when she was on with don lemon, and she said america should have a discussion about whether or not people in prison -- prisoners -- should be able to vote. you know, she talks about the green new deal, she is for open borders, she doesn't believe that people who cross into the country illegally should ever be jailed or prosecuted. yet, the strange thing is, and the irony is, she was willing to prosecute so many people form of minor crimes in california, and in fact, she prosecuted more people than joe biden insulted in his life. this is a person who is so wishy-washy, i think the american people will see right through it and definitely see right through it before november. there is no way to hide that record. >> mike: speaking of the record, congressman, you've worked with kamala harris for a long time. you knew her from california,

you knew her as the attorney general before she became senator. what would keep you up at night more than anything else about her being vice president? >> the fact that the president might need to be replaced would keep me up more than anything else. yes, i knew her as the attorney general, i saw her make great speeches, and then be completely hopeless in that role, so much so that when she ran as a progressive for senate, i endorsed and campaigned for the retta sanchez, her democratic opponent, not an easy thing to do for a seated republican congressman, but the fact was, we had a moderate democrat, and loretta cha sanchy comparison. but i think sara said it very well, it's chameleon harris, that's what it's all about, she will change what she says she stands for at the drop of a co coin, but this is somebody ownet

time and time again. and right now, she is backing away from the few things she ever did that might be considered pro-law and order, and if that is gone, she has nothing. >> mike: sara, i want you to react to james clyburn's comment about the country and where it's headed, keeping in mind that if it weren't for clyburn, joe biden wouldn't be the democratic nominee. let's watch this and then your reaction. >> we saw this country go left, and then they went back right. this country is going back to the left. i think that this ticket is right with the country is. >> mike: there you have it, sara. go ahead. obviously, from where he sees it in his district and nancy pelosi and his agenda, this is what they would achieve if they get

that ticket elected, so yes, the fact is he's right in one sense. if they elect that ticket, we are going to the left, but that is not what america wants to be. 80% of americans or more in every survey say they don't want to defund the law and order, they want to come in fact, restore law and order. you see very quickly, america is not where they are. >> mike: and sara, react -- go ahead, i want you to react to that. >> absolutely, i agree 100%. the american people understand what has happened. we've suffered a lot, through covid, over the last six months, we've seen the escalation of rioting and violence that buttressed off of the tragic death, you know, of george floyd, and now the american people are going to face another extraordinary challenge. i think this is going to be one of the most important elections in modern political history, because it's going to determine

the future of the united states. do we want the united states that is based -- and i've said this before -- on american values and principles, and freedom and capitalism and choice? or do we want a united states that is going to go to the radical left, lose all those freedoms, and the american people do not -- it's not going to be surprising, to watch what happened in 2016 happen again in 2020, and we will see president trump win by a landslide. >> mike: let me interrupt here, because i want to play this clip with jeff somebody from cnn and get your reaction to it, congressman. here we go. >> as the campaign moves along, i am told that senator harris, the anticipation is for her to visit swing states and to be out campaigning as much as she can, probably more so than joe biden. we've seen it on the republican side, vice president mike pence travels extensively, resident

trunk not nearly as much. >> mike: that -- yeah, go ahead. >> that's just not true. the fact is, although vice president pence has kept a full schedule, no president has traveled more than president trump, or did it with more energy, right up until the last hours in 2016. he proved he could out-work senator clinton, and that is how he became the president. i think the more important subliminal message there is apparently the difference between california and delaware is we don't have -- we don't have basements in california to hide in the way vice president biden is, and so yes, she'll probably not be hiding in a basement, but the fact is, what they are really doing is sending you code that vice president biden is not going to campaign, they are going to sequester him away because senility is a problem. >> mike: sara carter, congressman isa, thank you both

for being with us. my next guest says kamala opens the democrats and joe biden into a bit of danger. here to tell us how, doug schoen, democrat pollster and former advisor to president clinton and mike bloomberg. doug, she has called joe biden a segregationist, she said she agrees with his sexual harassment, but it's a primary win last night that you say offers another warning sign. i want you to explain that. >> sure. the squad has been uniformly successful, governor, in their primaries. representative omar was facing a very well-funded candidate -- also a self-described progressive, who outraised her in the fourth quarter, i'm sorry, the second quarter, and she won by i think over 15 points. representative to label won handily, and aoc was renominatee quarters of the vote.

so it's not just what your guests are saying are the positions of the democratic party, that'll be debated, governor, but it is incontrovertible that the far left has had great success getting reelected in house and also electing a number of additional members to the democratic delegation. >> governor huckabee: doug, to the democrats voting for these people, do they truly understand what they represent? they just kind of following the celebrity status of these folks? that is a real question i think the american people need to kn know. how much are these folks representing the heart and soul of today's democratic party? >> you know, the people that are voting in democratic primaries now, governor, are not the same people you and i remember voting in democratic primaries, the moderates.

you are getting the activist, progressive wing, who -- they don't understand the precise ideas -- get the basic ideology, and they do support to a much a greater degree than the rest of the electorate, defunding the police, green new deal, medicare for all, policies that are out of step with the broader american electorate. >> governor huckabee: i want to also ask, 80 million gun owners in america, the democrats have made it pretty clear they are going to go after people's guns, and 34% of the nra members themselves are democrats. how big a vulnerability does this create for democrats use that message and think it is a winner? >> well, the winning message is to be for background checks or eliminating any possibility that anyone, any sexual abuse in their background can -- getting

rid of the loophole. i would strongly urge democrats to support those kind of policies and not, not support gun confiscation, which will not be a winner. getting rid of assault weapons is one thing, but anything else is not going to be helpful, politically. >> governor huckabee: doug schoen, thank you very much. good to see you. we don't need to think too hard about how a vice president, kamala harris, would abuse her office. that is because msnbc gave us a little preview of that earlier today. >> someone, once biden takes ofteoffice, is going to be taskd with going through the entire administration with a fine tooth comb and basically exposing all of the trump it'ses. fantastic at finding those people and removing them. she can help us impeach some of these judges, the underqualified judges that donald trump has pushed in. >> governor huckabee: we don't have to take his word for it.

back in january 2019, senator harris said if she was in the white house, she would use the do jay to produce criminal charges against president trump, and told npr, i believe they would have no choice and that they should. joining me now, rudy giuliani, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, former new york city mayor. how unprecedented and damaging would it be for a biden administration to criminally prosecute a former president? >> we would become a banana republic, governor, i mean, biden has nothing left. she's a very mean woman, and she was a terrible prosecutor. she was a phony prosecutor. she prosecuted thousands and thousands of little people. 1500 marijuana smokers, but very few drug dealers. she let every politically connected person go. she even let a guy go who

murdered two people, including a journalist, she gave him from probation. she was a horrible prosecutor. her conviction rate was so low that people would just walk out. of the murder rate went up substantially, and -- that's all you need to know, of the murder rate went up substantially when she was district attorney in san francisco became very dangerous. she is a phony district attorney, she was a phony ag, and she would do exactly what that man said, she is a very mean person. nobody like her. it's interesting to me, rudy, that so many people, prior to joe biden selecting her, were saying oh, no, she would be terrible. of course, as soon as they announced she would be wonderfu. we all know how that goes. i always of the vice presidency is a job nobody wants and nobody ever turns it down. so now we have kamala harris, but there are some issues with things that people have brought up. what you just talked about, one of the ways in which a

tulsi gabbard, during the democrat debates, just basically took her down in the second debate. i know we are going to see this stuff again, if the democrats don't bring it up, kind of have a feeling the president's party will. >> you are darn right. she is the worst kind of prosecutor, she is a bully. she prosecutes the little people, the marijuana smoker. i was a prosecutor for 17 years. i never prosecuted a single marijuana smoker. instead, i prosecuted the heads of the mafia, the heads of the colombian cartels. she would run away from a case like that. she ran away from investigating the catholic church. large numbers of files of pedophiles she refused to release. there were hundreds of police shootings when she was d.a. she wouldn't touch them, wouldn't even investigate them. she is afraid to go after the police, she is afraid to go after the catholic church, anybody connected to willie brown or politics, oh, my god, they have the court house. she went after little people,

she went after parents -- parents, and put them in jail because their children were truant. including a woman whose child was very, very ill, and she didn't bother to check. i mean, this is a horrible person. she is mean, and she is an incompetent lawyer, and an incompetent d.a. that's why she fled cases down, because otherwise she would've had no conviction rate, she couldn't convict anybody in trial. the guy who committed murder she let out was finally convicted by the district attorney's office. >> governor huckabee: rudy, the problem with you is we just never know where you're coming from, we don't know what you really think. [laughter] we've only got about 30 seconds, but i want you to react to this tweet from the meeting never-trumper crystal. "just an innocent thought, we seem biden and office for over four decades and trump nonstop the last four years. we seen enough make up our minds about them, so let's get the presidential debates, but have

three vice presidential debates." they know joe biden is not ready to debate donald trump. is that why you're calling for -- >> kristol is a bitter little man. it's a shame to see it. he is a bitter person. they should have five debates. unless the entire country has gone crazy, joe biden is senile, no question about it. it only gets worse -- you know that, governor. that illness is vicious, it's awful, and i feel sorry for him, but he shouldn't be present when he doesn't know what he's doing, when you can't finish a sentence, when he can't get through a thought, and then he read -- i mean come msnbc covered it up, but he read his talk with her yesterday on june, he read it. >> governor huckabee: mayor, we've got to go. i appreciate you being here. thank you very much. well, is the white house winning the messaging -- i appreciate it. we are going to find out if the white house is winning the

messaging on school openings, and could they really divert tax money from schools who refuse to open and give it back to the parents? education secretary betsy devos is here exclusively in just a few moments to tell us. we will be back. and still ahead, raymond arroyo, he is going to be here to tell us all of this unseen moments from the last 24 hours of biden and kamala, so stay there. we live with at&t and we are well past the honeymoon phase.

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♪ >> governor huckabee: well, less than a week after new york allowed schools to reopen, new jersey is now ordering their own districts to follow suit. governor phil murphy requiring schools to offer at least some in person learning this fall. schools can offer only online classes if they can prove that they can't safely reopen. this all comes after immense public pressure from parents, from shows like this one, and from the trump administration. you have been more vocal in pointing out just how imperative it is to get kids back in school, and education secretary betsy devos, who just happens to be my next guest. madam secretary, i appreciate you joining us tonight. let's talk about what more can the administration do to make sure that if kids are back in school, they are back in school

safely? >> secretary devos: well, we had a very important conversation with parents and educators at the white house with the president today, and president trump has been really leaning into and boldly leading on ensuring that kids -- kids interests are being met, and that parents and families and kids are not being held captive to other people's fears or agendas. and we have seen in all too many districts and all too many schools across the country, notg the needs of students, anticipating school in the fall. talking about keeping -- we all want to ensure students and teachers are safe when they are in school again, but those things can be done and can be clearly accomplished, the science is very clear on this, what's been very clear is there is an alternative agenda that includes defunding the police, universal health care, destroying charter schools,

eliminating the d.c. scholarship opportunity program, and these are what teachers unions are demanding in order for kids, for them to go back to school. i was really pleased to see governor murphy in new jersey has now joined governor cuomo in insisting the option of in person school has to be an option given to kids. kids have got to be together, they have got to be with their peers and in classrooms with their teachers, and we need to ensure that this happens. >> governor huckabee: i worked with a director of education of our state who use to say, "there are school people and there are kid people. some people are all about making sure that the schools are the focus, but we really ought to be focused on making the kids the focus." the president suggested that by saying if schools aren't going to open, send the money to the kids. let's watch this, and then i want your reaction to what the president suggested. >> i would like to see the money follow the school. if we are giving all of this money on a federal basis to a

school, my money should follow the student and you can make your own choice. if a school is closed, why are we paying the school? i would rather give it to be student, their parents, and you do your own thing. that is something we want to do, we are having hard time with the democrats, they want to follow the union. >> governor huckabee: you know, i think i heard a loud "amen" from across america with parents saying "hey, if you're not going to open the school to my children, give me the money, because if i'm going to have to pay to get their education, i'd like to be able to have some money to do it." it sounds like you are on board with that, as well, madam secretary. >> secretary devos: well, that's absolutely right. families need to have options, they need to have choices, they need to be able to find the right fit for their child or their children, and it's becoming evermore clear, in the last few months, that this is more and more necessary for families across the country. we've had an education system that's been static for decades.

a one-size-fits-all approach, and if we've learned anything in the last several months, it's that children are not one-size-fits-all in their education needs are not one-size-fits-all, and the response to this has not been a one-size-fits-all. we heard from my mom today starting with another group of families, one of these things there calling pods, a small micro school in someone's home or a small building somewhere. there's many other families that are considering homeschooling, and there are other families that would like to send their child to a school, a private, may be faith-based school, many of which have demonstrated the ability to reopen again and are right on track with doing so. we need to ensure that all families have those opportunities, and the president is absolutely right and strong in his support for advancing this notion of money following the student, otherwise known as school choice, and senators tim scott has introduced a bill that could do just that, and congress could take action to

make sure that happens. >> governor huckabee: well, let's hope it does, because it makes a lot of sense. what kind of is what worries me as to why washington will never do it, because it makes a lot o. secretary devos, thank you for joining us, delighted to have you here. >> secretary devos: thanks so much. >> governor huckabee: it's not just k-12 education that demands the trump administration's attention, higher education has become a bastion of speech codes, conservative intimidation, and much worse. take the university of so main, please, take them. they are now asking community members to sign a black lives matter statement and antiracism pledge. what's worse, the school also published the names of people who signed it, which in this political climate means that those who don't sign it will almost certainly face retaliation and maybe even have moms showing up at their home. joining me now, john eastman, claremont institute senior fellow and constitutional scholar. this is a public university.

people pay taxes and that is what funds this place, and they are basically threatening the staff into signing a political document. is that even legal? >> it's not legal, it's not constitutional, and it's been that way for decades and decades. the supreme court a long time ago in a case dealing with jehovah's witnesses, saying the pledge of allegiance, it's a very famous line in supreme court jurisprudence, "if there is any fixed star in our constitutional -- it's cannot describe what can be orthodox in politics, religion, or force citizens," this is a standard of first amendment law, you can't compel people to take particular position. when you university or more broadly. >> governor huckabee: so john, somebody doesn't sign less, do they sue the university, and how long does that take to wrap through the courts? >> well, that's going to take a long time, but i would be

concerned if they are fired, if their terms of employment are affected thereby, and a look, we have to understand the propaganda nature of this. the same thing happened some years ago with the safe space movement, where faculty that were fully supporter of the homosexual rights agenda would put safe space stickers on theie implication, of course, was if you didn't go along with that agenda and put that sticker up, you are an unsafe space. the same thing is being sought here, if you don't sign this antiracist pledge -- which is itself racist, you know, the author of the language of this thing has admitted he wants to reverse racism. if you don't sign it, by definition, you are the opposite of antiracist, which must be racist. what's pure propaganda, it has no place in an institute of governmental institution, a public university. at some point, we have to quit calling them higher education, that is becoming a contradiction in terms. >> governor huckabee: the president appoints judges, and regardless of who the president is. do you think americans are finally begin to understand just

how critical it is that we have a president that appoints judges who actually have read and believes in the constitution? >> well, i think that's right, and we should be really clear here. people are not cheering because this president appointed conservatives or liberals to advance an unconstitutional conservative agenda. instead of an unconstitutional liberal agenda. what their cheering is that this president has appointed people who are faithful to the language of the constitution, as originally understood, and know the limits of their authority from the bench. >> governor huckabee: john, thank you very much for joining us. john eastman, great to have you here. >> thank you. >> governor huckabee: coming up, it's "seen and unseen," and raymond arroyo will break down the hype and phony rhetoric around the big announcement today. stay right there. but we also write. [szasz] we take care of ourselves constantly; it's important. we walk three to five times a week, a couple miles at a time.

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♪ >> governor huckabee: i know you've been waiting for it. well, it's time for our

"seen and unseen" segment, where we reveal the story behind the biden-harris rollout. after that, of course, we go to raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. raymond, you picked up some signs during this rollout that others might have missed, so why don't you tell us what we all want to know? >> governor, great to be with you. look, from the very start, there were stumbles today. the campaign rolled out this video a fight and report of the asking senator harris to join the ticket, but even at the start, he seemed utterly lost. look at the face. watch. >> hi! hi! sorry to keep you. >> that's all right. are you ready to go to work? >> oh, my god i'm so ready to go to work. >> first of all, is the answer yes? >> the answer is absolutely yes, joe, and i'm ready to work, i'm ready to do this with you, for you. i'm just deeply honored, and i'm very excited. >> now governor, the poor man was holding the iphone

backwards as he spoke, and fight and had a script on his desk, which he read, trying to explain to harris of the reasons for choosing her. nothing says "i love you" like reading a script. and oddly, msnbc cropped that cue card out of their on air shot, as did the folks over at cnn. now, due to biden's condition, governor, this campaign is scripted and totally controlled, reviewee to the nth degree. today's unveiling, itself choreographed, they marched in in masks, no questions or conversations with any outsiders, which biden explained away this way. >> i wish we were able to talk to the folks outside, but we are keeping our social distancing and playing by the rules. >> now governor, i've been saying from the start, biden's real running mate is covid-1 covid-19. but as the cases and deaths decreased, okay, how smart a strategy is this where he and

harris embrace covid-19 so tightly? that was part of their governing message today. >> i find it >> governor huckabee: i find it funny, raymond, they say because of covid he can't go out, as he heard of skype or zoom or a telephone? you can still talk to people, but he doesn't want to because he's afraid of what he will say, and the only people more afraid of him saying it are all those people around him. >> the campaign at home biting their nails, after a decent reading, okay, he started well and was reading a teleprompter. biden's intro of kamala harris seem to run out of steam. he made a few bizarre points and then started repeating himself. >> you've all watched in the united states senate, asking the tough questions needing to be asked, and not stopping after she got an answer. and when none was forthcoming, it was obvious what the answer was. who were in the battle for the soul of the nation. that's when i decided to run.

and i'm proud now to have senator harris at my side. possibilities, possibilities. let me say it again, possibilities. everyone, everyone, the ability for everyone -- and we mean everyone. >> everyone, governor. it's almost like listening to a tape player with bad batteries, you know, the speech slows down, then it glitches, then it gets loud. it's very odd. i mean, the question is, is biden's performance at this point sufficient to be competitive in this race? >> governor huckabee: i think it's going to be really hard for him to take that game onto the debate stage with donald trump. i've been on the debate stage with donald trump, and you can't carry that up there and expect to come out with your head still on your shoulders. >> no, you've got to watch him. for her part, kamala harris painted a doom and gloom portrait of america, blaming the present for everything from the

pandemic to racial divisions, but also did something i've never seen a running mate do before, she echoed her own campaign slogan from the primaries, and something more. >> kamala harris for the people. selecting joe biden is just the start of the work ahead of us. >> electing biden is just the start of the work ahead of us. it's almost like she is running for the top slot here. in fact, cnn's krista lizza writes that biden has chosen harris whose resume suggests she will be ready to step in if and when biden decides to step aside. the guy isn't even the official democratic nominee, governor, they are already pushing him aside. this is like that show, designated survivor. sans the tragedy in the election. have you ever seen anything like this? >> governor huckabee: no, raymond, i haven't. i'm telling you, i think she comes into this with more baggage than delta air lines on thanksgiving weekend, it's going to be fun to watch. >> [laughs]

finally, i've got to get to this. i want to show you the end of the press conference, a lot of people didn't see this. people often reveal more when they don't speak then when they do. look here, she finishes speaking, kamala harris, and the music comes up. ♪ and a very odd thing happens, they never come into contact. he almost waved her off, okay, when she goes to approach go biden. this looks like the dance at a body odor convention. nobody contact. despite all of the happy talk and how close biden and harris are, except for matching masks, we saw nothing to reinforce their connection. so i guess they are committed to their running mate, covid-19. >> governor huckabee: raymond, that's why we love watching you. thank you, raymond arroyo, we are going to see you tomorrow night, when you will be guest hosting for lower. that will be great. >> i will, indeed. thank you, governor. >> governor huckabee: "angle" fans, you're going to get more agreement tomorrow night because he is filling in for laura, you

better mark that down. joe biden likes to paint himself as a man of faith. so if he does, why did he pick a running mate who has repeatedly vilified religion? we are going to find out about that, because coming up, joe biden will be kind of analyzed. we will just figure out what's going to happen. that's coming out right after this.

♪ >> mike huckabee said the other day and part "i don't know anybody, people of faith, who think joe biden is a great choice." >> faith is a matter of your personal relationship, and so, i don't know why that's been said about joe. i think he is a man of faith. i don't think anybody can speak for the entire faith community and try to, try to say that this person is good and that person isn't. >> governor huckabee: you know, i've known john kasich for a number of years, and i'm really disappointed he is letting his personal pain over being bested by donald trump four years ago turn him into a bitter and vengeful voice of never trumper-ism. four years ago when he was the sitting governor of ohio, he refused to so much as offer a welcome to his faith at the republican national convention, but this time he's pledged he's going to speak at this year's democratic convention. four years ago, he, like all of

us who ran in the republican primary, publicly pledged, even signed a document, that he would support the g.o.p. nominee. he was dishonest about that, as well. now, he says he's going to vote for a candidate who is for pro taxpayer-funded abortion. who is for same-sex marriage and who would force the little sisters of the poor, the catholic nuns, to provide birth control and abortion pill coverage in their health care package. biden is such a devout catholic that he was the denied communion on the campaign trail last year and his choice of kamala harris as vice president, no champion of issues that christians and people of faith really care about. this is the same woman who last year implied that a federal do you judicial nominee, membership in the knights of columbus, disqualified him from even sitting on the bench. joining me now, matt schlapp, american conservative union chair. matt, how can joe biden call himself a man of faith and bring on someone like kamala harris? >> yeah, this is a real problem,

governor. if you look at the record of kamala harris while she's been in the senate, she had a hostility toward catholic nominees for the federal bench, her other trump positions, we are back to the time hundred years ago when catholics need not apply. she asked various catholic nominees if they knew the knights of columbus was a male-only institution, that believes in traditional marriage, that believed in the rights of the unborn, or she characterized it, stood up against the reproductive rights of women. which she is basically saying with these questions is that if, if you're a devout catholic, and if you take the dogmas of the church seriously, biblically-based, that you are not qualified to sit on the bench. now, that runs counter to the history of this country and our constitutional order, which says there's no religious test in

order to serve in this government, and this is bigotry, these questions were bigoted, and there's no room -- and joe biden shouldn't just not just go along with this, he should have called this type of bigotry out. >> governor huckabee: i want us to watch this, kamala harris also used her position as attorney general of california to punish planned parenthood's enemies. right here. >> while she was running for u.s. senate, while planned parenthood in california was contributing to her political campaign, did she recuse herself from the planned parenthood investigation? no, she did end. she consciously and willfully involved herself directly and personally in the planned parenthood case. she had an in person meeting with six planned parenthood executives from california in los angeles two weeks before the raid on my apartment. >> governor huckabee: matt, we only have about 30 seconds, so i've got to really squeeze you on time, but how do you react to

what she did today with it? >> well, it's this hunger to make sure that abortion is always kept a legal. you know, joe biden and kamala harris road believe in no restrictions on abortion at any time, even when the baby is bort can still be killed. joe biden now believes that the parishioners he attends church with at st. joseph's church and his pastor should pay for these abortions all across this country. it's really radical stuff. they say "my body, my choice." what i say to them is "our soul, my soul, my choice." allow catholics and christians to practice their faith fully. it's what make america a special place. >> governor huckabee: matt, we've got to go. matt schlapp, thank you. one of my favorite, matt schlapp. we will be right back. so what's going on?

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september 1st. it is available for preorder right now on amazon. real insights on direct sources of the real america that some politicians seem to know little about. that's all the time we have tonight. i hope you will join me this week for my special show. i am mike huckabee, i'm in for laura ingraham. right now shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team, they are going to take it from here. shannon. >> shannon: great to see you, governor, thank you so much. we begin tonight with a fox news alert. police, law enforcement, crime, violence, none of those words were uttered by either joe biden or kamala harris in their first public appearance together. despite a wave of rising crime and riots across the country. the 2020 democratic ticket did have plenty to say about president trump, black lives matter, and the coronavirus pandemic. the president tonight announcing new measures to contain covid-19 and prevent further economic damage and hope that children can safely get back to school.