sleep in and you don't have to be -- >> neil: i'm worried about you, frank, but i do think you're brilliant. i'm going to redo my entire house right now. frank luntz, thank you very much, my friend. reporting live from his oval office. here comes "the five." ♪ >> jesse: hello everybody, i'm jesse watters along with greg gutfeld, dana perino, marie harf, and kennedy. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." we are awaiting a news conference from president trump at the white house but in the meantime, joe biden and his brand-new running mate, le kamaa harris revealing their most provocative move yet, calling for a nationwide mask mandate. >> today i want to talk about one thing, straight forward. doesn't have anything to do with democrats, republicans, or

independence. every single american should be wearing a mask when they are outside for the next three months at minimum. every governor should mandate, every governor should mandate mandatory mass squaring. it's not about your rights, it's about your responsibilities. >> that's what real leadership looks like. we just witnessed real leadership. >> jesse: once again, joe and kamala didn't even bother to take questions from the press after the event. dana perino, at an event like this when you're going to make a big policy splash that a lot of constitutional scholars like myself have major questions about, you think you'd be able to maybe open it up for one, maybe two questions afterwards. >> dana: they've got a strategy from the campaign and they are sticking to it and look, it's working for them for right now but as i've been saying this week, i don't think

that is sustainable and i think a couple things on this point. i believe it is politically smart for them to draw a stark contrast with president trump on something. and if they believe that coronavirus is the number one issue for the voters they are trying to reach, then that probably really makes sense to them. i saw a poll today, 82% of americans are support such an idea. however, what would've been helpful helpful would've been taking questions because, what do you mean by that? when you are sitting at home by yourself, got to wear a mask? no. i'm assuming they mean in public places, et cetera. i don't feel my rights are being trampled if i wear a mask in a store, i think that's totally fine and the president had said that would be patriotic thing to do. took a little while to get there but he got there. i think it's excessive to say that if i'm out on my own outside walking and nobody is around me that i have to wear a mask, that to me is excessive.

i think that shows something else and the trump campaign might be able to capitalize on it which is this first policy announcement is exactly how they would govern from a federal standpoint as a nanny state type of thing where the federal government is going to run roughshod, they're telling the governor to do that but that's a suggestion. what about if you tie money to it. that's one of the things you can try to do, you get states to do something. it's politically smart but i think it would have been better to take some questions, however they have the strategy that seems to be working and i think they probably aren't taking my advice to take one question. before do you think that dana is right, they are trying to outflank the president and they don't care about the legality of it over the fact that, you know, there's counties in maine that don't even have one case. why should they be forced to wear a mask when they are out on a lobster boat?

>> greg: initially i heard this story topic wrong, i thought mask mandate, so i have totally different talking poin points. >> jesse: may be for the gg show. >> greg: whatever you're into, mask or no mask, date whoever you want. this is leadership, i guess he's going to tell us to wash our hands and don't play spin the bottle in the e.r. i find it hilarious that this is a party that won't come down on rioters, looters, or prosecute criminals, but they are going to punish you. i was wearing a mask before the pandemic, i'm wearing a mask right now. it is funny because to dana's point, who is the autocrat now? we've been told that trump was this tyrant who was going to force everybody to do what he wanted and he said no, you governors do what you want and

hopefully you will do the right thing, we will have 50 different experiments, see what happens. now it is biden who says this has to be mandated. he's the tyrant now? is the media going to go after him? i doubt it. if you say, dana says, this is kind of excessive, they are going to say, you are antiscience and you want people to die, you are probably a racist and a sexist, too. >> jesse: marie, do you think this is tyrannical? >> marie: joe biden actually said each state should do their mandates on their own so he's actually leaving it up to the state. >> jesse: so it's the same thing. >> greg: he's doing what prompted. what's new? >> marie: everyone should wear a mask and the cdc director today said publicly that we are in store for the worst fall we have ever seen ahead of us.

he's been tweeting a lot about masks this week, there's a worldwide effort to get more people to wear a mask an some states may have to mandate this. a lot of states were trying to see if citizens would do this on their own out of the goodness of their heart, patriotism and protecting their fellow citizens and unfortunately many people aren't. governors have to step in and put in place some regulations that when you go out side with a group, when you are in a store, whatever, that gets people to behave better. 165,000 dead people. >> jesse: marie, why didn't they take questions, by the way? >> marie: i don't know why they didn't take questions but i guarantee they will at some point. to dana's point earlier, this is working for them. joe biden is up in every poll, why mess with what's working? but they will, i'm sure.

>> jesse: i'm glad you guys think whatever you're doing is working because it's going to be a rude awakening in november. kennedy, how do you see the masks playing politically? >> kennedy: it's not the idea that everyone should be wearing a mask, the question is what happens if you are not wearing a mask? the mayor in new york city encouraged people to rat on fellow new yorkers and you were supposed to text on number and take pictures of people and bill de blasio said they were going to send the police. what if people do? instead they send him my worry is, what will the next wave be for the real gestapo that comes in and spies on people and lets the police know because we already don't trust the police. now we are supposed to trust them with mask enforcement, took gregg's point, we are going to talk about what's not happening in portland later in terms of

people not being charged for rioting and violence. but if you are not wearing a mask, that is seen as the ultimate front so you will be punished, there will be fines. if you don't pay the fines there will be jail time. that is what is called forest. that's what real leadership looks like, i'm not into that brand of leadership. >> jesse: they wanted to empty the prisons. i didn't know they wanted to fill them up. maybe this is the democrat's jobs plan. >> dana: they did say, she did announce the $25 billion plan and biden plan that would start, i calculated it, by the time they did the vaccination, that we would be vaccinated. what i wanted to say at this point in the campaign, 81 days left. three things are the big story lines coming out of today. number one, president trump's

historic middle east deal. should that be leading the news? absolutely. the president did something else today on an interview with fox business this morning, he talked about wanting to starve the u.s. postal service of funds because of mail in balloting, believe me, that is going to be a story but you have one other entity. now you have biden and harris trying to figure out, how can they win the new cycle? they chose the number one issue on american's minds today, they probably focus grouped this thing to death. if you are the trump team, how can we win this new cycle today? >> jesse: we will see how the nightly news covers it. i won't because i will be watching "special report." greg is up next on the crime and chaos plaguing major u.s. cities. stay tuned. ♪ [ thunder rumbles ]

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or disorderly conduct. this as sex offenders are put up in manhattan hotels on the citizens dime. no surprise moving companies are breaking records in new york as people flee, junkies now pleasure themselves on the once calm streets on the upper west side. "sex and the city" is now "per"s on your lawn." >> you are seeing the democrat road map for america, you see that with new york, a billion dollars they took out of their police department and crime has gone through the roof. and far left prosecutors who side with the criminals and target law-abiding citizens. >> greg: that's all true but because it's from him the media denies it. if trump praised pasta, the

press would declare it lasagna a crime. what does our most famous prosecutor have to say about this? >> we are experiencing a moral reckoning with racism and systemic injustice that has brought a new coalition of conscience to the streets of our country demanding change. america is crying out for leadership. >> greg: what does that nonsense even mean? you can blame the shutdown for killing our cities boat what kills is mayhem and hopelessness and especially cynicism. cynical democrats who treat criminals as a voting block while people who love their city, cops, teachers, shopkeepers are rendered helpless. we are witnessing the breaking of the promise that if you work hard and play by the rules you will win. no more, the democrats cancel that. call it oppression studies, a race war as cities burn. we used to know what to do but

radical identity politics cynically assumed that minorities are natural allies of criminals. fighting crime might offend a mythical base of people who endorse criminality. this thinking is pure racism. meanwhile, the media cynically blames systemic racism because that's good for business. except media types live in the city, too and they are all hacks who call 911 over a mean to eat. how long after cheering to defund cops do they wonder who to call if some looter breaks down their door? it will be the moving van so they can ditch the mess they created. in summary, i want to go to you because i'm curious about kamala harris, is the "law & order" version of her dead? and now we are replaced by an identity politics woke model we saw yesterday. >> marie: greg, maybe this is hard for some folks who understand who want to put her in one box or the other but she

is actually both. she is someone who understands that the best way to reform our criminal justice system and to root out racism is from the inside so sometimes you have to do that by being tough in certain areas but she certainly has been and sometimes you have to do that by advocating for the end of cash bail, advocating for sentencing reform. she's been able to do both and that's why both progresse progrd moderates really like her. this version of american cities you put forward, all of us live in cities and while there are some sporadic problems in a couple cities across the country, compared to what we've seen in cities in the '60s or other errors, this is not that bad, greg. >> jesse: going back 70 years, marie? going back 70 years. >> marie: i'm asking for a little historical context here, jesse. this idea that our cities are on fire is not a reality for most

of us who live in cities. >> jesse: greg, that was a really good monologue, it pains me to say it but i have to give you a little credit there. you know when you're driving your little antique cars on the weekends in the wind is blowing through your hair? you look in the side mirror and it says "objects are closer than they appear," that's what the democrat vision is of the democratic party, they have a very warped idea of who the party is. they see twitter, they see cnn hosts, a few mobs looting and rioting and they think that's mainstream. that is such a small slice of normal democratic voters and i think i understand why. this pandemic has cap for them from meeting real voters. in a normal election year, joe and kamala would be going to diners, talking to people in rope lines, may be having town halls in swing districts. they'd be hearing real people who might tell them, i don't really like what's going on and

you need to fix that. but since they are not hearing that it's not registering so they are just trying to capitalize off the chaos because they think it will hurt president trump, and it's not. it's going to hurt them. it >> greg: kennedy, as you know, my neighborhood got completely looted and where you're from has been nothing but chaos so how do you feel when marie says this is sporadic and you should see the '60s, well before marie was born so how would she know? >> kennedy: in order to really assess violent crime trends it takes some time but the short term immediate trends in new york city for example are awful, homicide is up 50% this year and you touched on the fact that 130 out of 750 hotels in manhattan are now housing homeless people which i love the creativity. what i don't love is the fact that ten blocks from me there are pedophiles and child rapists

being housed at hotels like the ones you see on your screen. when someone has committed child rape you most certainly can offer judgment there because of a high rate of recidivism, i will not let my daughters go above 72nd street. this is a city we moved to five years ago that was very safe, i had no problem walking around at night, i had no problem running in central park at dusk and i can't do those things because yes, my neighborhood has become unsafe. and i'm not being a about all this, i see what's happening in my hometown of portland and this is not a libertarian utopia. libertarians want to be left alone. we don't want fireworks shot at us. we don't want our stores looted, we don't want entire swaths of our city taken over by people

who have a certain ideology that lets them feel they can commit violence on others who don't agree with them. that is the opposite of liberty. >> greg: dana, we were talking in the hallway, i didn't include it in my monologue because it was already 3 minutes long but it makes me sick what's going on there. >> dana: i was going to comment on that. i do want to point out that jesse is letting standard slip on the show and i think you need to enforce them. he is, to ask permission to use an analogy before he does such a thing. >> jesse: i'm going to put myself in time out. >> dana: we would appreciate that. in bend, oregon, you had i.c.e. wanting to get to two immigrants, illegal immigrants that they were wanting to arrest, those two had been busted for domestic violence and they wanted to take them to get them into the right, i don't know where they wanted to take

them, but for 12 hours, about 200 protesters protected these people from i.c.e. getting to them by surrounding their bus. kennedy i think would agree with me that to have this happen in bend, oregon, is eye-opening, bend, oregon, is a traditionally conservative place. it's not that it's happening in big cities but bend, oregon, something that that happens, there's something more going on. >> greg: when you're going after a children's hospital, i don't know, marie. i am against that and i hope you are, too. >> marie: i am, greg, don't worry. >> greg: who knows, evil liberals. the media says kamala harris is a moderate but is she? straight-ahead on "the five." ♪

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>> just like that, we have the president. here he is. >> president trump: attorney general barr, they cut the killer, horribly shot young man, this just came out 2 minutes ago. attorney general barr just announced, as you know, we named "operation legend after legend

jafawhere we are going to be heg out cities in our country who have difficult's with crime, they caught the killer of legend. today we saw joe biden continue to politicize a pandemic end show an appalling lack of respect for the american people is what it is. at every turn, biden has been wrong about the virus, ignoring the scientific evidence and putting left-wing politics before facts and evidence. sleepy joe opposed both the china and the europe travel ban. he opposed the china travel ban and the europe instituted quite early. if he had followed, if we went after and listens to his advice, hundreds of thousands more

people would've died. i believe that dr. fauci agreed with that, he said president trump and made a great decision when he put the ban on china, joe biden wants to bring up the borders, infiltrate every u.s. community based on his policies, he wants to have ridiculous open borders. i've been saying from the first day i started campaigning for this great office that you have open borders, you don't have a country with open borders. he wants open borders. the democrats want open borders and if you take a look at our southern border we would have criminals pouring through. the wall is getting close to 29g huge impact so we disagree with him on that, one of the many things we disagree with.

but while joe biden will allow rioters and looters and criminals and millions of illegal aliens to roam free in our country, he wants the federal government to issue a sweeping new mandate to law-abiding citizens, wants the president of the united states with the mere stroke of a pen to order over 300 million american citizens to wear a mask for a minimum of three straight mont months. i guess he thinks it's good politics. no matter where they live and no matter their surroundings. different states are much different, both in terms of the atmosphere itself and also in terms of the corona problem. he does not identify what authority the president has to issue such a mandate or how federal law enforcement could possibly enforce it or why we

would be stepping on governors throughout our country, many of whom have done a very good job and know what is needed it. also, many of our 50 states are doing the job at a level that frankly people are really surprised including foreign governments that are calling us constantly and asking for advice. so i want to just say, our governors have worked very hard, they've worked with vice president pence and myself and everybody else that's been going, we have scott now involved, congratulations. we'll be working with a lot of governors, you've already started and dr. fauci and dr. dr. birx. if the president has the unilateral power to order every single citizen to cover their face in nearly all instances, what other powers does he have? that's why he refused, biden, to

take questions. he couldn't answer any of them. he never takes questions. i take questions, he never takes questions. and you sort of wonder what's going on because they are not that difficult. some can be nasty but they are not that difficult. but he never takes questions so i guess he just left the building. put it in your minds. my administration has a different approach, we have urged americans to wear masks and i emphasized that this is a patriotic thing to do. maybe they are great and maybe they are just good, maybe they are not so good but frankly, what do you have to lose? you've got nothing to lose. we've been saying to wear them when it's appropriate especially in terms of social distancing,

if you can't distance enough and what do you have to lose? but again, it's up to the governors and we want to have a certain freedom. we want to have a certain freedom, that's what we are about. at the same time we also understand that each state is different and is facing unique circumstances. you are very,ent states facing e differences and circumstances. we've interest of the governors of each state elected by the people to develop and enforce their own mask policies and other policies following guidance from the federal government and cdc. we are working with each stage to implement a plan based on the facts and science. we will continue to urge americans to wear masks when they cannot socially distance but we do not need to bring the full weight of the federal government down on law-abiding americans to accomplish this

call. americans must have their freedoms and i trust the american people and their governors very much. i trust the american people and the governors want to do the right thing to make the smart decisions and joe doesn't. joe doesn't. joe doesn't know too much. unlike the biden approach, our approach is guided by science. that's why we are focused on protecting the high-risk americans, why we are delivering effective medical treatments to dramatically reduce the fatality rate and why we are developing a vaccine and therapeutics in record time. sleepy joe rejects the scientific approach in favor of locking all-americans in their basements for months on end which i think is something that scott would be very opposed to. i think i can speak for you, we've been doing pretty strongly over the last number of weeks.

but he wants them in the basement for months on end and you have governors that have been very, very strict on keeping people in their houses, keeping people in wherever they may be, apartments, and frankly, i don't think the results are necessarily better than other results. but he wants to shut down our economy, close our schools, and grind society to a halt and he wants it done by a federal decree. this would lead to a crippling, long-lasting depression, this would be a crippling, long-lasting depression and yesterday i showed you the numbers about how well we are doing coming back with auto sales and auto manufacturing and used car sales and housing sales at numbers that nobody would've believed and we are back in very strong, it's almost straight up, we will be discussing that over the next couple days but the

economy is coming back and the employment numbers over the last three months are a record in history of our country and we will be back next year, maybe even stronger than the previous years where we set every record in the book, unemployment and stock market, by the way our stockmarket numbers are very close to record and nasdaq is actually a record over the last 14 days. for 14 times now, it's been record and that's during what we hope will be the more final stages of the pandemic. so if we did what biden wanted to do, shut down our health care system and lead to a massive increase in mortality including suicide, overdose, heart disease, and countless other physical and mental harms. it is very, very bad on the other side of the equation when you do something like that. those shutdowns are very

punitive. very punitive, they hurt a lot of people in a lot of different ways. through depression, through suicide, through so many other things. alcohol, drugs. biden's approaches regressive, antiscientific and it's very defeatist. it will be very bad for our country. while joe biden has been playing politics from the sidelines, he has no clue. we've been solving problems and delivering tremendous results. the most advanced and robust testing system on the planet, the number one producer of ventilators in the world by far. unprecedented industrial mobilization. biggest since world war ii. operation warp speed to deliver life-saving treatments and very soon a vaccine. what a plan by joe biden has actually laid out would do, we've really already accomplished.

in fact, many of the things i was well reported over the last few days, every single thing he said to do, every single thing we did and we did them well. so biden has no idea on his own, he only knows what he thinks we should do, what he spews it out and then i guess you can say plagiarize us and he really did in our case because every single one of the events, i think we can say that. was something we had already done. so we will defeat the virus but not by hiding in our basements. he's got to come out of his basement. we will defeat this virus through common sense, mitigation efforts, shielding those at highest risk and unleashing america's medical and scientific genius which is what it is. and we've already been doing it and we are very close to having something that's going to be very, very special in the form

of therapeutics and vaccines. to joe, i would say stop playing politics with the virus, serious partisan politics, there's no place here. it's a shameful situation for anybody to try and score political points while we are working to save lives and defeat this pandemic. in times of national challenge, americans, we are working with countries from all over the world and they are trying to learn from us and some of the countries that you spoke most well about her having a tremendous surge right now but it will work out. but americans must unite together and put politics aside and really unite for a common good. three vaccines are in the final stage of clinical trials, doing really well. we are producing the most promising vaccine candidates in advance.

we are a part of the largest industrialization ever. it's incredible when i meet with heads of companies doing this, the best companies anywhere in the world. it's incredible where they are, how they are doing and the speed with which they are doing it and also the speed with which the fda is approving things. because by any other standard you would have been two or three years away from being at the point that we are at. by the end of this week we will have shipped 1,846 rapid point rapid point-of-care testing devices to nursing homes which are very important source as you know for people that are not handling the plague from china very well. this week alone, we are sending 990 do testing devices and 450,000 tests to more than 950 nursing homes across the count

country. and of these are incredible, all-new, very modern and we are also getting on the tests that are not done immediately with the 5-15 minute timing, when they do send them to a lab they are coming back now in three days so it's a three-day process which is about as good as you can do, one day of delivery, one day of receiving and one day in the lab. we are also requiring all nursing homes to test all members of their staff at least weekly by unleashing america's scientific genius we have delivered effective treatments, the case fatality rate for americans over 70 has declined by about 85%, that's fantastic number, that's case fatality. it's declined by 85%. europe has seen 40% more excess mortality than the united states compared to a nonpandemic year. so here the numbers.

and those numbers are very interesting but that's the way it is. we continue to urge all americans to wash your hands, socially distance, wear a mask when necessary and when you cannot distance andre to protect from a very important to come of the vulnerable, protect people that are older and especially people that have problems with heart or diabetes or some other problem. earlier today, very exciting news, big news all over the world talking about it all over the world, it was amazing. we finalized a historic peace agreement between israel and the united arab emirates. after half a century, israel and the united arab emirates will fully normalize their diplomatic relations. nobody thought this was something that could happen for a long time. the most important diplomatic breakthrough since the egypt type and nature israel peace

agreement, signed over 40 years ago. to israel, thank you for being here. you would agree that this was a big day for israel and a big day for the world. good, thank you, david. you've been fantastic, fantastic ambassador and representative, thank you very much. the deal that was reached today will enable muslims to have far greater ability to visit more historic sites in israel and to bpeacefully pray at the mosque that they wanted to have access to for many decades. this is a monumental step to forging ties of cooperation in the middle east and i think they will have other countries come forward. i can tell you, we already do when they want to make a deal, peace in the middle east, will

be fantastic. israel is also suspending settlements in the west bank which is a big deal. i doubled step toward achieving peace, israel and the united arb emirates have voted to expand scientific collaborations for vaccines to defeat the china virus. they've both been hit, 188 countries have been hit and to save lives and there'd region and in their world, so they are working very much on the vaccines also with us. and again, some very good news is going to take place with respect to that. our unprecedented diplomatic engagements lay the groundwork for this historic peace agreement which was just announced a little while ago today. we will not rest as we continue to work toward a world of greater harmony and prosperity for all.

i want to thank prime minister benjamin netanyahu of israel and crown prince mohammed bin zayed of the united arab emirates, two fantastic people, the white house very soon to formally sign the agreement, we will probably be doing it over the next three weeks. they will be coming to washington. so that was a tremendous day. that was a tremendous thing that happened. and it's great, we have a lot of other interesting things going on with other nations also having to do with peace agreements and law of big news is coming over the next few weeks. more importantly, it's a great thing for our country, great thing for the world so thank you very much. please, go ahead. >> reporter: mr. president, i want to ask you about school-age kids and food. one of the problems when you

shutdown schools, kids on reduced and free lunch programs, they need these meals to make it through their day and with districts shutting down school, what, if anything, can the federal government do to make sure that the kids still get decent meals as long as the schools are out? >> president trump: you know we don't want the school shut down, we want the schools to open and especially very young children, all children but especially very young children handle it very well so we want schools open, we don't want to be in that position. we've made payment and we would frankly if the school isn't going to open, we would much rather follow the child with the payment, give the money to the child meeting the parents of the child and let that, let the parents do what they have to do including bringing the child to another school. we are finding that whether it's parents are children, people want to get back to school. some people say they don't want the democrats, don't want

schools open because that's where you have a lot of polling and if you have a school closed you can't very easily have polling votes at the school and that's me coming i think, maybe we will be able to show that as fact but that's another thing that they are doing to try to keep people away from the polls so we have to look into that but you've been reading about it, i've been reading about it and i don't like it but we'd like to see the schools open. then we don't have that problem. good question. >> what's your understanding about how long israel will extend this west bank plan? >> we have an agreement with the emirates, the embassies, overflights, commercial and we are going to extrapolate that to the rest of the region. how long that takes, i can't tell you but we prioritize peace

over the sovereignty movement. it's not off the table, it's just something that will be deferred until we give peace every single chance. >> reporter: what do you want the palestinians to take away from this deal because they are not party to it? >> president trump: they are supported largely by some of the countries we are talking to and have already signed, others will be following. and i think the palestinians will, without saying it necessarily yet, i think they very much want to be a part of what we're doing and i see ultimately the palestinians see peace between israel and the palestinians, i see that happening. i think as these very big, powerful, wealthy countries come in, i think the palestinians will follow quite naturally. yet, please. >> reporter: do you believe a deal has been reached without israel's agreement to temporarily suspend annexation?

>> president trump: say it again, could you make it clear? >> reporter: do you believe the deal could have been reached without israel's agreement to extend annexation? >> i think you can't do both at the same time. prioritize peace, sovereignty after peace is given every opportunity for sovereignty. i don't think that two could have been at the same time. >> reporter: have you asked israel to formally consider abandoning annexation? >> this is a temporary process. >> reporter: this morning you said that you do not want to fund the u.s. postal service because democrats are trying to expand voting by mail. so i have two quick questions for you. are you threatening to veto any legislation that includes funding for the post office? >> president trump: no, not at all. a separate thing, i would do it. one of the reasons the post office needs that much money is to have all of these millions of ballots coming in

from nowhere and nobody knows from where and where they're going, you saw what happened in virginia, 500,000 applications coming in, going all over the state, nobody even knows where they came from. you saw what happened in new york which was a disaster with congresswoman carolyn maloney, it was a basic disaster. you see paterson, new jersey, what's going on there and we can give you many other locations. what has happened is that's part of a big negotiation, that's a small part of a big negotiation to get more money to people that it wasn't their fault, it was china's fault on the post office is part of it. another part is they want three and a half billion dollars just for the ballots themselves. why it's so much, i don't know but that's with the democrats want. if the bill isn't going to get done, that would mean the post office is our going to get funded and the three and a half billion dollars isn't going to be taken care of so i don't know

how you could possibly use these mail in ballots. absentee ballots, by the way, are fine. but the universal mal male-and t they sent all over the place that people can sign them and do whatever they want, that's what we are against. >> you're saying you don't want to give this post office funding in this coronavirus legislation, they say they need it so they can be prepared, so if the pandemic is still going on in november when the election happens and people don't feel safe to go in person, they can vote by mail and it can be safe and secure. >> president trump: i can understand the post office and we can agree to the overall bill which is obviously a much bigger number than just the post office that would be fine but they have the post office as one of their requests. it's their request. >> reporter: this morning you said you were against it, didn't you? >> president trump: i'm against doing anything where the people aren't taking care of and the people aren't being taken care of properly. we want people to get money.

it wasn't their fault that they got shut down. they got shut down by china so whether it's the post office or whether it's the three and a half billion dollars, you know they are asking for three and a half billion dollars just for the universal male in ballots. but they're not willing to make a deal. these are two points within a very big deal. the thing they want more than anything else, caitlin, and you know this, is bailout money for the states and for the cities that are in trouble much for the most part are democrat-run states and cities. new york has a problem, california has a problem, illinois has a tremendous problem and others. they want to be able to bail out these dates and we don't want to be doing that or certainly don't want to do it to the extent, they are looking for $1 trillion, we don't want to be doing that. please, go ahead. >> reporter: of a need that money in order to make the post office work so we can take all these millions and millions of ballots and you said that will be fraudulent. it sounds like you said -- well

>> president trump: i said it will end up being fraudulent. if you look at what's happened over the last few weeks, look at the few instances where this is happened, it's turned out to be fraudulent. if you look at new york it was fraudulent, if you look at paterson, new jersey, it was fraudulent. the whole thing is a mess. in fact, carolyn maloney's opponent, he's gone crazy. he said they took the election away from him and they may be right. i think they should redo that election pay look at virginia, it's terrible, look at some of the things that have happened in california. california where they found a million noneligible voters. that was done by judicial watch. we have to have an honest election. and if it's not going to be an honest election, i guess people have to sit down and think really long and hard about it. but if the post office, if they are not going to approve a bill and the post office one of the money and if they're not going to approve a big bill, a bigger

bill and they're not going to have the three and a half billion dollars for the universal mail-in votes, how can you have those boats? what would mean is that people will have to go to the polls and vote. like the old days, like two years ago, three years ago, four years ago, they have to go... it doesn't say anybody is taking the boat away but it means that the universal mail-ins doesn't work. and absentee where you make an application, it's different. i'm not saying anything wrong with voting. i want them to vote. but that would mean that they'd have to go to a voting booth like they used to and vote. >> reporter: voting in person. people want to vote by mail. >> president trump: they will have to feel safe and they will be safe, we are not going to have to spend three and a half billion dollars to do it and when you go to voting, it would be wonderful if we had voting i.d. some states have that end some

states don't because i can't get it passed. most states want to but we want people to vote, we want people to vote so when they vote it means one vote. it doesn't mean ballots all over the place. you saw what was happening in virginia where piles of ballot applications are dropped all over the state. they had them named after dogs, named after dead people. we want to have an accurate vote. i'm not doing this for any reason. maybe it turns out to be my advantage, i can't tell you that. i know this, i just want an accurate vote and it's a fair question, by the way. so does everybody else. okay. >> reporter: mr. president, how does the accord between israel and the uae help struggling and persecuted christians in the middle east, the deal today? >> president trump: i think it's going to, i think it's a big start and you're right about that, christians have been persecuted by some countries in

particular in the middle east and i think this is a big start. it's going to be a very strong start from a very powerful start and it's something i will tell you, i've told david, i've told everyone of our negotiators, if you look at the way christians have been treated in some countries, it's beyond disgraceful. if i had information and if i had absolute proof, some of the stories that we've heard which are not easy, which is not easy to get, i would go in and do a number to those countries like you wouldn't believe. what they do to christians in the middle east and its disgraceful. its disgraceful, you're right. it's a very big part of the overall negotiation and as countries come in. for instance, uae has agreed very strongly to represent us, i think they will very well with respect to christianity. because in the middle east it's not treated well. it's not treated well at all, it's treated horribly and very

unfairly and it's crim and all, what's happened. and that's for many, many years. i think it's a great question, a very unfair situation. >> reporter: larry kudlow says there is a routine check in call with on the phase one trade deal. my question is what it they bring up tiktok and also wechat, would you instruct your team to engage them? >> president trump: we have a deadline of september 15, whether it's microsoft, others are negotiating. we also said that obviously it's worthless if we don't allow them into the country so we said the united states treasury is going to be getting some thing out of this deal, something very substantial but what we want is total security and we have a deadline of september 15th. so i know microsoft and others are very interested in it becausbutthat's our deadline ite proven to be totally secure. we don't want to have any information going into china

with what we've been through. and i have to tell you, you talked about the deal. you mentioned the phase one deal. the phase one deal, it's very interesting situation because you've been hearing the largest order of corn in history, the largest order of soybeans, the largest order of beef. they've done more than they've ever done so you're going to have to figure that one out. with where i'm coming from, they see my attitude. my attitude toward china is not friendly but they have gone into orders that are extremely large, extremely large and our farmers are very happy but, with what they did with respect to the pandemic. the plague that came in from china. just is a different feeling. it's an incredible deal but i have a very different feeling. but they are getting the midwest, our farmers among the largest orders i've ever seen.

somebody told me today, about 40% of what they are selling now is going to me change my mind a little bit because you know my attitude on china and it hasn't been very good. we are not talking to them, we are talking to the companies, there is a company and the deal will have to be substantially beneficial to the united states, we need total security. >> reporter: can you say whether you yourself should say it should be off the table -- >> president trump: is something they've discussed in israel has agreed not to do that. more than just off the table, they agreed not to do it.

i think it's very important, it's a great concession and it's a very smart concession, do you have anything further to add to? >> reporter: the prime minister was pretty clear today at a press conference come he considers this to be a temporary suspension, i'm asking what you think he should do? >> president trump: i can't talk about some time into the future, that's a big statement. right now it's off the table, is that a correct statement? >> the wording was chosen carefully by all the parties, temporary halt, it's not off the table permanently. >> reporter: you want an accurate vote, do you direct the postmaster general to reverse some of the policy in order to prevent delays