covering this momentous occasion at the 70th anniversary. thank you so much from a gentleman. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: thanks guys. that's p27 for tonight. we will be back here tomorrow. have a good night, everybody. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." ever notice how the people who run our country seem so fervently concerned about problems that are totally irrelevant to your life? if you are like most americans, you are wondering how to pay your credit card bill, how to afford your kid's student loans and trying to keep your family together in a society that seems to be spinning apart. you'd like to watch college football next month. those of the problems most people worry about but not our leaders. in their world, the 16 minute phone call donald trump once had with the ukrainian president is a national crisis, to them a

handful weird russian facebook memes qualifies as a dire emergency, more threatening than the cuban missile crisis and when someone accidentally mispronounced as the name of willie brown's ex-girlfriend they are so distraught they devote entire tv segments to the crime. they have very different priorities to yours. it shouldn't surprise you that these very people missed maybe the most important development in america in the last 30 years, had nothing to do with the russia or iran or donald trump. you probably did notice that, american cities collapse, buildings burned, law enforcement vanished, criminal mobs rampaged unchallenged, stealing things and hurting people. drug addicted vagrants took over the streets, parks and public transportation. anyone who could leave her but america did end this happened the country. in new york alone many hundreds

of thousands of people, possibly a million people fled the city. essentially the entire tax base of america's largest metro areas disappeared in just a few months but here's the remarkable thing. our political class said barely a word as it happened. azar doesn't begin to describe the experience of that. imagine you're watching game three of the world series and a spaceship lands on the pitcher's mound at yankee stadium so you flip to cnn for live coverage of it but cnn has decided not to cover it. they don't think it's a story. you start to imagine you must be going crazy. and then you see the numbers and you realize that now, you are not crazy. it is all entirely real. new york city is now moving towards historic apartment vacancy rates. san francisco, long famously overheated real estate market is facing a 50% increase in residential vacancies. people are running away. moving companies say they can't keep up with a demand. there's no mystery about why this is happening.

here's a recent local news story from new york. >> first came the pandemic and hundreds of thousands of new yorkers reportedly fled the city temporarily. now even more are leaving, this time permanently, saying they don't feel safe in the city anymore. hairstylist jody usher says she was harassed twice on her commute so she moved her family to florida. others are following amid spikes in gun violence, shootings up 177% this july compared to last july. then, public displays of junkies shooting up in midtown, people who work in the area say they called police but their calls went unanswered. >> tucker: calls to the police went unanswered, that's what happens when you/a billion dollars from the police budget. i'm skyrockets, many of those crimes go unreported because there's nobody to call them because suddenly there is immense social pressure not to get the police involved no matter how horrible the

offenses. just yesterday we spoke to someone who is disabled son was assaulted in a new york city park in the middle of the day. young men came out from behind and knocked him to the ground, they didn't like the way he looked. they videotape the whole thing, during his mother to say something. wanted to put her on the internet and accuse her of being immoral. when the mother told her college-educated neighbors about what it happened, they made excuses for the criminals. they are poor, no wonder they are frustrated. that's insane and totally wrong. being poor does not make you evil. there is never an excuse for assaulting disabled kid. that's why new york city just converted hotels in the upper west side of manhattan into homeless shelters. suddenly there are junkies and convicted rapists all over the neighborhood. kids can't go to the playground and no one in charge cares.

>> it's moving day on the upper west side where 300 men are taking up residence after living in shelters downtown. 1 of 3 hotels in the upper west side contracting with the city to house new yorkers experiencing homelessness. the other is the bell claire, welwhere hundreds will live indefinitely. at least 13 offenders are living at the bell claire. six have been labeled "sexually violent" and at least one is a level three offender, the highest designation possible. >> tucker: just in case you're wondering why people are fleeing the city, retail is leaving, too. it's hard to run a business when vagrants are using your lobby has a toilet, and they are. companies like the gap and victoria's secret are keeping their manhattan locations closed as a reopen in other states.

"there's no reason to do business in new york." i ago, he ran one of the highest grossing restaurants in the united states, now can't get out fast enough and he's advising others to do the same. bill de blasio is hired to care about this. he is the mayor of new york what he doesn't care, not even a little bit. watch him physically turn his back on a small business owner who claims he can't feed his family. >> we lost our chinese new year, busiest day of the year. >> everybody please step to the side. >> thank you very much. >> tucker: in fairness to de blasio, he may have been more stoned than usual. typically he responds to complaints about his mismanagement by blaming unseen saboteurs. it turns out that republicans

are so powerful, so sneaky so diabolical, tricky and relentless that they are able to control events in a city that has no republican officeholders. pretty amazing. watch him next line. >> the sad reality is no one has done more to set back new york city than donald trump because he failed new york city and failed america with his handling of the coronavirus. if we had had presidential leadership we wouldn't be in the mess we are in right now. so yeah, new york city is dealing with some tough times and a former new yorker helped bring it to us by failing to address the crisis staring us in the face. >> tucker: de blasio isn't even trying to tell compelling lies anymore. we don't need to single him out, suddenly there are little bill de blasio's across the country. lori lightfoot got out letter from a property management company that represents more than 22,000 homeowners and

38,000 residents in her city. the letter informed her of what you already knew, people don't feel safe in chicago anymore. there's too much looting, too much violence. residents across the city are adjusting their daily routines out of fear that the president of that company, "are a avoiding neighborhood walks after 6:00 p.m. at night, they don't stand too close to their windows or dare to enjoy their outdoor balconies or terraces. i can't fault homeowners when they are considering leaving chicago." but none of those observations are political. you have no idea who they voted for my hearing them. they are obvious, it's called observed legality, it's true. she doesn't care, she blames faraway republicans for the disaster sh she created. chicago has not had a republican mayor since 1931 but in away that's why she's doing it, there are no republicans in chicago to

complain when she accuses them of causing gang murders. it's also crazy and stupid and counterproductive but it's everywhere. in minneapolis leaders seem to be trying to figure out new ways to wreck their steady, staying up late and doing it. the latest plan is to make it harder for business owners to clean up downtown in the wake of the riots that destroyed it. in order to obtain a "demolition permit," the city is making businesses prepay the second half of their 2020 property taxes. many can't afford this, they have no businesses left. that means they are burned out properties will remain standing. husks, monuments of the protests that were actually riots. this is the kind of idea that would never in a million years occur to your average immigrant store owner from say, pakistan, no way. you have to be a deeply entitled postmoderpostmodern feminist frm

oberlin. >> the city came in and put this in here and they sent us a bill for $3700 and they said they don't have any resource. so the city that you pay in taxes, the city you support sends you a bill. enough is enough, guys. >> tucker: you can assume from that man's accent that he didn't grow up in this country. you can hear the shock and disappointment in his voice and you feel for him. you should know it's not just minneapolis. this kind of insanity is happening everywhere even in small, beautiful cities like bend, oregon. local officials as hundreds of protesters to trap i.c.e. officers. stretch on for hours until federal reinforcements arrived. watch.

this kind of playacting turns some people on. but it's so destructive. bend, oregon, is a great place, actually, but if this continues it will not be a great place, normal people will leave. so who's doing this to our city's? strictly speaking the answer is blm and antifa, crazed ideologues, with no stake in society and nothing better to do than hurt people and destroy things. every country has people like that, it's part of the human condition. america always has had people like that. what's changed is that the destroyers now have the full support of our professional class. that's what's different. the democratic party coddled the mob you see on tv, that's how it

works. consider the disclosure numbers from the last election cycle. a political donation by netflix employees, virtually all of them, 99% of them went to democrats and left-wing candidates. the social media company, twitter, 98% of donations went to the left. a higher rate of partisanship than you would find among harvard university professors. which tells you everything and by the way, that's also true at apple, google, facebook, microsoft, pick one. america's cities, rage of adults made it possible, they paid for at all. find a prosecutor who refuses to keep violent criminals in jail and the chances are george soros put them there, but why? why are they doing this? it's becoming clearer, the middle class voted for donald trump. our leaders have decided to punish the middle-class for doing that. never in our history have our

elite spend this reckless and this angry. entire subscriber base of "the new york times" has been seized by a frenzy of destructive rates. they are throwing plates around the kitchen, beating the dogs, smashing the windows. they've destroyed their own home in their first instinct is to be to leave and split for saint barth's. they did this, they should have to live with the consequences. in midtown. cohost of "outnumbered" melissa francis, we are always happy to have her. melissa, you've been in new york for a while, you are a keen observer of what happens, what is happening there right now? >> so everything you described, that dissent that has happened is allowed to happen because taxpayers who live in these cities have said, well, the only place where i can have the career i want to have, where i can make the money i want to

make, have a life that i want are in these cities, that's where the schools are that i want to send my kids to about something just accidentally happened, these same leaders, de blasio and the like accidentally taught us that we don't have the live in these cities and that's what makes it different this time. they locked us up in our apartments and they closed our schools and they closed our jobs. so all of a sudden it dawned on these elites that you're talking about, a lot of the wealthy people who provide the taxes and a lot of middle income people, wait a second, i don't actually have to live in these cities in order to do this job. so i stayed over the summer and i'm there and yes, we had homeless men walking down the street with no pants on, flapping their member in the breeze for my children to see on a sunday morning, that happened to me three times before i finally posted it online and all the time i rode the subway, i rode the bus, my family got the

virus, we were covered, we endured. but now some of the schools are saying they're not going to open after all of that and they're saying, you know what, it's not safe for the teachers to ride the buses and to ride public transportation as we all have been. all this time. and you wonder, so, i don't have to work in the city to have a job and my child 'a school is not opening, why in the world do i stay? and i've talked to so many families who are now leaving and who does that leave behind? those who can't afford to go and they are the ones that are going to be stuck with this result. >> tucker: what you are describing, the american city is this monument to human human iny but they are really fragile, they are delicate institutions, actually. this one broke so fast, it's making our heads spin. >> partially because people will

put up with almost anything or you could use your money to insulate yourself from all these problems or you would fight back or do something because you were motivated to stay in the city because you wanted that job. there was a reason to be there. even though it wasn't the wisest choice for your family or wasn't the most comfortable, there was a reason for it. but they accidentally took the reason away with this virus. we notice the deterioration more than a year ago, people made fun of me for saying that, you could see that even though bill de blasio had doubled his spending on the homeless we had more homeless than ever before, more, according to our governor than we've had since the great depression. you can see more spending but things are getting crazier, if the same group of people vote these folks out of office, it took this virus to prove to us that we don't actually have to be in these cities and as you've

seen, people are running for the hills and now we will really see what happens. i'm afraid for the people who are left behind and can't afford to go, that is the real problem. people who put their life savings into these businesses and restaurants are going to be wiped out with nothing left and that's the tragedy. >> tucker: couldn't agree more and it's our biggest city, we shouldn't let it degrade but we are. melissa francis, thank you so much, it's great to see you tonight. >> thanks. >> tucker: an awful lot of crime and violence going on right now, we try to highlight it, we think it's important you know it's actually happening. this one is particular the horrifying, the killing of a 5-year-old boy in north carolina, not getting a lot of national news coverage. rick leventhal has a story for us tonight. >> this wasn't a kid caught in the cross fire, this was a little boy playing on his bicycle with his seven and 8-year-old sisters nearby, shot point-blank in the head. funeral services are being held this hour in wilson,

north carolina. he was supposed to start kindergarten this week. witnesses say cannon was playing on his bike when a man walked up, put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger. arriving officers took the boy to the hospital but cannon could not be saved. this aspect, was arrested monday and charged with first-degree murder. he lives next door and reportedly may have been angered because cannon rode his bike on his lawn earlier in the day. cannon's mom wrote on facebook. "my baby didn't see color. he made sure he knew he loved you even if he only knew you 5 minutes. and his grandmother asked, when are we going to write "children's lives matter" on hollywood boulevard. sessoms has a criminal record with firearms and drug convictions.

cannon's mom says she hopes sessoms rots in hell. tucker? >> tucker: what a depraved story. joe biden announced that if elected he will force all americans to wear masks including outside. he didn't explain the scientific basis for this, there doesn't appear to be any. but don't ask because you're not allowed to ask. straight ahead. ♪ you say the customers make their own rules.

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♪ >> tucker: joe biden announced today wanted his first campaign promises, that if elected he will force you to wear masks for at least three months, apparently including outside. he didn't offer any details or any science to explain why we must do this. we must do it anyway, says joe biden. watch. >> every single american should be wearing a mask when they are outside for the next three months at minimum. every governor should mandate, every governor should mandate mandatory mask wearing so let's institute a mask mandate nationwide starting immediately and we will save lives. it's not about your rights, it's

about your responsibilities as an american. >> tucker: it's not about your rights. you don't have any rights anymore. you have to wear a mask when you're alone in the woods. walking with no one near you in the park while running, riding your bike. is there any science behind this whatsoever? and if so, what is it? dr. marc siegel is a fox news medical contributor. i get really uncomfortable when people try to justify a purportedly public health-based decision by telling me to be patriotic. if i disagree or ask questions i'm not patriotic so what is the scientific basis for making people wear masks alone outside? >> good evening, tucker, it's a politics of fear and the power of science, big government addition as you just said. what is the science behind this? some recent studies show that masking, if you use them properly in proper conditions when you're close together or indoors when the ventilation is poor, they likely decrease the amount of viral spread and that

was shown in several hot spot states and washington, d.c., end and a couple others. there's also been stimulations that show that masking may help decrease the spread of the virus. that's enough for me to like the idea of masks. the politics of fear, big government addition. vice president biden is talking about outside. outside is where it's much more difficult to spread the virus and tucker, i rode my bicycle recently around new york. everybody was wearing a mask. you know what they weren't wearing? helmets. we are going to see a lot more damage to the brain because they are so worried about the government ideas, and access masking. you also talk this week about the fact that harvard researchers have said that during sex with someone outside your household, i can't comment on the science of that and imagine if the government is

watching you with that end a wisconsin state agency as you also said has come out with a decree that even if you're at home on a zoom call you should wear a mask even if you are alone. i'm going to tell all of your viewers tonight, do not do that. but depending on the outcome of the presidential election, you may have to turn your camera off because big brother maybe watching you, tucker? >> tucker: this is getting really scary. when you make a decree that you claim is rooted in data, show us the data, what's the science? great to see you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: america has two a make a choice about how to proceed in its response to the wuhan coronavirus. should we tolerate some cases and some deaths, many countries have done that. can we bring back total lockdowns and universal outdoor mask wearing as joe biden

apparently now says we should. the author of unreported truths about covid-19 and to, how should we proceed? what's the rational way for the country to respond at this point? >> it looks to me like sweden is not a bad model for us to follow. the swedes came under very heavy fire in march and april and may, letting this virus go unchecked, messing up with the rest of europe is trying to do in so many cases in so many deaths. guess what, sweden appears to be through the worst, not just the worst but almost this entire epidemic. there are very few people in icus and right now there are very few deaths, this month in sweden with covid. parts of the rest of europe are seeing new rises in cases. more accurately i should say positive tests. over and over again, a positive

test is not necessarily clinically meaningful case, does not necessarily mean you are sick with the virus. the swedish model is looking better and better. you're not going to know for three months or six months or a year, it certainly looking better. in new zealand they were committed to the idea of we are going to have no cases. this is so terrible, this thing which so many people don't even know they have and recover from without ever even realizing they are sick, it is so terrible that we can have no cases on our island anywhere. they just had, they underwent a very hard locked down in march and april, pretty strict border quarantines, they were so proud of themselves that they had no cases for 100 days and all of a sudden this week a day have a again, community transmission, they don't know where it came from and they are locking down again. they are mandatory corning quarantining people, they are physically separating people and removing them from their homes

who are infected with this. it should be mandatory isolation, not mandatory quarantine because you are isolated if you are sick. the point is some of those people are actually resisting. it is so do we want to be that, do we want to be so afraid of this thing, this virus which according to the cdc in may killed one and 400 most of those people are extremely elderly or have severe comorbidities or do we want to be a country that accepts that there is some risk here and we have to move forward, we have to have schools, we are going to let the hospitals handle this and to me the choice is clear but convincing americans of this has been very difficult. >> tucker: because they are terrified and that fear is being used by the usual suspects. thank you for the rational analysis, there's very little of that. we appreciate it. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: shocking story about a government mandated program at one of america's top

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>> tucker: the federal government's top nuclear weapons lab is a place called sandia national laboratories. you'd think it would be a very serious place, they make nuclear weapons. it turns out it's not a serious place, it's a woke factory. they recently sent their white male executives and only executives fitting that description to a three day reeducation camp to confront their privilege and reconstruct their white male culture. at taxpayer expense, trainer said the men present should work hard to understand their privilege, they learned of the roots of talks that, "rugged individualism and hard work." what does that have to do with making nuclear weapons?

on research fellow at the discovery institute broke the story, we are happy to have them tonight. chris, thanks so much for being on. tell us what the point of this was and whether it was mandatory. >> yeah, well, this was a mandatory program for white male executives that were supposed to essentially break down their white male identities, confess their sins to the diversity trainer and at the end of the session they had to write letters of apology to women and people of color based on what they learned about their own privilege and it's nothing more than a an indoctrination session that's based on critical race theory, something that is spreading like wildfire through our public institutions. and you know, it's almost more dangerous than the nuclear weapons themselves. >> tucker: i agree with that. no one says anything about it because everyone is intimidated but it doesn't take a complex thought experiment to imagine if they did this to any other group i think all decent people would say, you can't attack people or how they are born, it's immoral. why do we allow this kind of

garbage to continue at public expense? >> because, this is really racism masquerading as antiracism. and i think through this kind of complex cultural construct, it plays on human frailties and emotion and guilt, we've allowed this to really perpetuate all of our institutions. and i'm afraid at this time it's almost everywhere from the smallest local school district in tennessee or kansas to the highest levels of the federal government. this is something that under the radar has just spread like wildfire. it's important to call it out and it must be stopped. >> tucker: no one says anything. let me ask the most obvious question, is this legal? >> you know, i've been talking to legal scholars and there is a heated debate. i've heard from folks at the white house within the senate and the house, there is an investigation happening right now on this particular issue.

in my view this is illegal, lightly unconstitutional, a violation of people's civil rights and i am declaring a one-man war against critical race theory and the federal government and i'm not going to stop these investigations until we can abolish it within our public institutions. >> tucker: i can't think of many things more important than that. appreciate it. thanks so much for coming on. things are getting more dangerous in this country. luckily, kamala harris has a plan. she plans to disarm you. we will ask why and how, next. ♪

♪ >> tucker: kamala harris has plans for your guns, but more than that, she's willing to threaten congress if they don't make a law that matches her desires immediately. watch this. >> do you believe in the mandatory buyback of "assault weapons?" >> i do believe we need to do buybacks and i'll tell you why, they are weapons of war was no place on the streets of a civil

society. >> i will give the united states congress 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws and if they failed to do it then i will take executive action. >> tucker: mandatory buyback, that may be the greatest formulation ever. it's like "mandatory donation." it's theft. its seizure. obviously. so why does kamala harris want to seize your guns? for the babies, of course. >> we have to have smart gun safety laws. and we cannot tolerate a society and to live in a country with any level of pride when our babies are being slaughtered. >> tucker: babies are being slaughtered. okay, clearly we have mislabeled kamala harris. turns out she's one of the few pro-life democrats in the senate. an attorney, second amendment advocate, we are happy to have

them on tonight. mr. martin, great to see you. it's for the babies. kamala harris cares about the babies. you obviously don't center for the second amendment. defend yourself. >> [laughs] let's get one thing clear. a lot of people aren't really talking about, we are talking about a potential kamala presidency, not so much a joe biden presidency. his mental acuity is by far in question. that being said, she's talking about gun confiscation. a lot of people out there, who are new gun owners, it's a gun confiscation. she talked about a mandatory buyback but she did an interview in 2019 where she said she supported a forced gun buyback. which is essentially a gun confiscation. so they can use whatever pretty fancy words and euphemisms she wants to use but what she's talking about is literally taking people's guns and i think people really need to grasp th

that. >> tucker: can i ask you a question? this just occurred to me, she's calling for gun confiscation, mandatory buyback. that will be enforced with guns, right? she wants to use guns to threaten people until they give up their guns. there seems to be an irony embedded at the center of this. >> she is not inherently antigun. she has antigun for you and die. but when it comes to her having guns or whoever she has enforce her law, she doesn't have a problem with that. end of this nothing to do with the babies, it really doesn't. they really want to take all of the guns. i know that sounds extreme but let's think about it from a numbers standpoint. less than 1% of the gun deaths in this country are committed with ar-15s what she wants to ban. what she going to say next? whenever we have another shooting that happens to happen. she's going to have to go to

handguns next because less than 1% of gun deaths in this country happen by way of ar-15s. >> tucker: what percentage of households and counties that are not going to vote for joe biden have ar-15s? like a ton. isn't that really the point? she's disarming people who don't vote for her. >> pretty much. the thing about it is what's interesting is recently there have been a wave of people who are otherwise antigun are probably going to vote for her who actually went out and bought ar-15s recently who don't even realize her true stance on this issue. >> tucker: really quick, do you have the numbers? i can't remember them but the number, the increase in gun purchases is without precedent, like it's never happened before. >> i've been an advocate for almost ten, 12 years now and i've never seen it. >> tucker: people understand. people who don't want to buy guns are buying them anyway

because they have no choice. >> i hope they understand that continuing to vote for people like kamala harris and joe biden is effectively them taking those guns away. >> tucker: you can't have no police and no self-defense, that doesn't work. been instructed to say kamala, just so you know. the treasury department striking a deal with democrats on coronavirus funds and it could affect businesses for decades. how will that affect them? small business owner who thought a lot about it joins us after the break. ♪

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complaining that democrats and the treasury department are planning to tax them for expenses they paid for with their stimulus money. they say it could force thousands of businesses into bankruptcy. it's complex but we've got someone who can explain it to us. a restaurant owner in dallas, texas. this is complicated for those of us who don't run businesses. bottom line for us, what this means for people who run small businesses. >> basically the government mandated a shutdown in march, we had to lay off thousands of employees in the entire restaurant industry alone, the government's ppp program was put in place to give grants to businesses to hire people back and to pay rent to landlords because you had no income to pay your rent. it all works pretty well, 15% of restaurants nationwide are now closed, the program ended july 31st and now the august surprise was a little bait and

switch of congress and the treasury department saying this is no longer a grant, we will treat this as a forgivable loan which means it's taxed, at a personal level. basically serve as an unemployment office from the united states government. it really just seems like a government takeover of small business because when you get into 2021, and they say that was money given to you via treasury, businesses in this country are just going to get crushed. and i don't think our viewer who took that ppp loan, 5 million ppp loans were given out in this country, they are in for a rude surprise. >> tucker: what is this going to do at that point, do you think? the federal government will have

unprecedented control over them at that point. >> absolutely and if you are a business that's already shut down but you took ppp money, you are a small restaurant that took the money back in march and april and you couldn't make it and you shut down, the government is going to come knocking on your door because that is going to be considered a personal loan to you because in a partnership everything flows through to you as a partnership and that's true for every business. >> tucker: i guess the key question is, did you know this when you took the money? was this clear at the outset? >> not at all, it was presented to us that it was a grant and basically the way we looked at it and everyone else i know looked at it is we hired people back, for a lot almost 1800 people, but almost everyone back. we had, our restaurants weren't even open but we brought them on because of government was paying them, not us. everyone looked at it as it was a great program, the unemployment office getting even more people than they had, maybe

ten times as many as they got. we had to pay them to put them on so i was having people sit around doing nothing because the government was paying. when i brought them back i knew i was going to be paying 30%-50% tax on that money. >> tucker: you are in the business of projecting what the future looks like. when does the crunch happen for them? >> great question. august 1st was when the bell tolls, 15% of restaurants have already shut down in this country. if you're not back to 70%-80% of prepandemic sales, you're done. landlords are tired of forbearing rent because of their lenders are no longer wanting them to do that. you're just shutting the door, you'll see in the next 30 days another 10% of united states restaurants shutting down. look at "the wall street journal" and "new york times" talking about restaurants in new york city shutting down. even something as simple as a

subway, 20 or 30 of their new york city locations down permanently so it's a snowball that's rolling down and now throwing this taxable event on top of all of us, i mean, are you kidding me? both houses are doing this and i don't think anyone is speaking up for small business. both parties say they are the party of small business, they are shot acting that way. they were treated the way it was presented to us and not bait and switch the american enterprise. >> tucker: in a sentence, do you think they do this to google or amazon? >> no, great question. i'm just worried about my own business every day but you know, small business is the backbone of the united states and love, mcdonald's take it, the big companies didn't take it, small businesses can't compete. thank you for letting me get my message across. >> tucker: i appreciate you coming on tonight, this is important. thank you.

>> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: we are at time. we will be back tomorrow as promised, 8:00 p.m., the sworn and totally sincere enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. guess who is next. three guesses, sean hannity. here he is. >> sean: tucker. thank you, tucker, as always. bill barr will join us, we have an exquisite interview with breaking news straight ahead. also, the national security advisor to the u.s. robert o'brien will be here. more details on what is the president's historic middle east peace deal and interestingly, biden taking credit when just the opposite is true. we will also talk about joe biden and kamala harris and they are now ready to be anointed from their basement bunkers. they can't hide, they're going to campaign. no they're not. apparently, they're going to