more time? pete: any closing arguments as we welcome will cain? will: i'm excited to be here and hang out with you every morning going forward on fox & friends weekend. pete: absolutely. will: take care. jedediah: see you tomorrow. pete: have a wonderful saturday everybody we'll see you right here, tomorrow. neil: all right, coronavirus cases speaking across the globe, but so far, on capitol hill, not much being done about it. you're looking live at the united states capitol amid the back and fourth among the major parties to extend what the president wants to do, but the president is the only one doing it. he and his vice president voting out a number of executive measures, actions, he says, will give the economy the boost it needs without busting the bank. that is in the eye of the beholder. it's at the very least $1 trillion. meanwhile we're following the biden/harris ticket and what they're up to no public events planned, welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto.

this is cavuto live so glad to ou with us. right now the focus is on that virus stimulus that the president wants but nancy pelosi says the way he's going about it he can't have, but you tried to be the democrat that turns down a payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits that be extended through the rest of the year, although not at the $600 a week level. the president also put them in a box on the issue of stimulus checks. he wants to handout up to $3,400 to families of four and so far, democrats are saying he can't do that either but the back and fourth has given the president an opportunity the democrats say he's taking advantage of. we're going to debate that and ex floor that but first where all of this stands right now with david spunt, in bridgewater , new jersey. >> reporter: neil, good morning to you. well listen, with congress out of town and the president here at his golf club in bedminster, new jersey it's clear it doesn't look like any deal is going to

happen anytime soon. gone are those big rallies the president was counting on just because of covid-19. lately he's had to scale things down a little bit and that's exactly what happened last night we'll probably see this pattern going forward until election day at least. now last night here in bedmins. ter new jersey, neil, he welcom ed the new york police ben evelent association, more than 100 of new york city's finest with trump 2020 hats and the head of the union pat lynch endorsed the president in front of his bedminster golf club but the president is not in washington, not sitting across the table from house speaker nancy pelosi and minority leader chuck schumer talking about these coronavirus relief negotiations. last week kellyanne conway told me the president didn't need to do so in person. he was communicating through secretary of state, secretary of treasury steven mnuchin, excuse me, and chief of staff mark meadows. now the president did tweet yesterday he wants to send

direct payments, $3,400 for a family of four, to all americans he also says he's ready to send more than $100 billion to schools but democrats say that's simply not enough. then, neil, we get into the issue of the postal service an organization that counted benjamin franklin as its first postmaster general in 1775 the organization struggling for money and manpower at a time when a record number of americans are supposed to vote by mail. the usps needs $3.5 billion to handle the load and the president is not willing to give in but said yesterday he would consider it if democrats meet his other demands on covid relief. listen. >> if they were to give you that? and sign off on the money for the postal service? president trump: they're giving it to the american people. they wouldn't agree to that? president trump: i would certainly do that, sure i would do that. >> reporter: the president heading back to washington late tomorrow afternoon, when he gets back though as i mentioned he will not find congress there. this week going into several battleground states, minnesota, wisconsin, and one day he'll

also go to scranton, pennsylvania and arizona. all critical states but as he can have rallies, he's doing these roundtables with supporters, meeting smaller groups. the new substitute for rallies. neil? neil: all right, thank you, my friend, very very much david spu nt. this all goes back to the coronavirus cases, and that started all of this you can think about it and right now they are spiraling out of control in some countries even in new zealand where they had obviously some very promising results. we're looking at that, we're looking at what's happening in countries like our own, where they're trying to reopen things but that's moving a lot easier said than done. the new jersey governor is among those saying do you know what? we're going to try to reopen gyms, also andrew cuomo in new york, hinting that might happen as soon as this week. so we'll keep on top of that and right now, charles watson following the strategies. charles? >> reporter: good morning, neil. california is reaching a new milestone. it is now the first state in the

nation to report at least 600,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and with nearly 11,000 dead in that state from the virus, it now sits at third for the most fatalities only behind new york and new jersey. some positive news to take away from the numbers, hospitalizations have decrease by 19% over the last two weeks. new positive cases are beginning to decline. now there is some concern that progress could be held to that as the state deals with the scorching heat wave over the next few days. public health officials are urging people to wear masks as they flock to beaches and parks to stay cool. governor gavin newsom says the state needs to continue on the positive path. take a listen. >> last time i presented the positive iterate it was at 7.0%, today at 6.2% moving as we asserted a few weeks back and certainly asserted last week in

a positive direction. >> reporter: and positive cases are on the rise again in nursing homes around the country. florida governor ron desantis is warning that a new round of covid-19-related deaths could hit nursing homes in that state soon, even as daily cases decline, and georgia governor brian kemp is expected to sign an executive order today allowing some cities and counties to enforce mask mandates. neil? neil: all right, thank you my friend, very much. charles watson. by the way just looking abroad from developments, and au kland is in the middle of lockdown in new zealand, with a spike in cases, things were stabilizing there, no more. the indications are that this will last probably another couple of weeks. we're also getting word that the border between the united states and canada will remain largely closed to vehicles for at least another five weeks. this is the third such extension of keeping that border frozen to

individuals coming in from the united states and conversely those coming in from canada. in the meantime here, the issue is how do you stimulate an economy right now that needs it? the president has his own proposals including among other things, a cut in the payroll tax democrats are in the odd position of opposing something they earlier liked under barack obama. i raise that with house majority whip, congressman clyburn. take a look. >> the payroll tax only affects people who are on payrolls. if you're not on a payroll, the payroll tax doesn't do anything for you. neil: that's where, but isn't that where the unemployment benefits kick in, but congressman isn't that where the unemployment benefits kick in, help for those who have work , help for those who don't have work and when the payroll tax was an issue, you were for it when barack obama had it, right? >> yeah, and we didn't have a

pandemic when barack obama was there. we did have a great recession. remember that? the great recession of 2008. i was in the room when it was declared, when the secretary of the treasury came in there and said -- neil: but you've already stated things are very bad with the pandemic as we speak, and the payroll tax, if it was warranted then not only once but twice under barack obama, why isn't it warranted now? >> definitely because we did not have a pandemic when he did this. neil: whether it's a pandemic or , you know, a global meltdown the impact is the same, it hits a lot of jobs, it hits the economy, slows the economy, almost stops the economy. you can argue that's what's happening here is worse than what was going on in the meltdown back then but leave that as it may, democrats are opposed to this president doing some of the things they approved

under the last president. let's get the read from noelle the gop strategist, the former director and rebecca walter of the wall street wiz kid. rebecca, i ended with you let me begin with you on this notion of a payroll tax cut leaving aside the politics of it. i get that. republicans were opposed to barack obama doing it so i know how this works but having said that would it have the effect of helping the economy? >> yeah, absolutely, neil. any time you return money to the hands of the people and they certainly the hands of the employers, you have to remember this is a tax that is shared not only by the employee but also by the employer, so if you suspend it, the employer is not paying it and neither is it being taken out of the employee 's check so it is going to help both the employee and the employer and that is going to stimulate potential new job growth and employers are going to be very happy and so are employees so yes, absolutely we're talking about a 15.3%

total rate here and yes it will help the economy. neil: you know, harold, democrat s are in this kind of position where they might argue that it's executive overreach, but they be on record opposing extension of jobless benefits, opposing a payroll tax cut for working americans, without anything to offer any alternative. how do they balance that? >> so first thanks for having me this morning. just with regard to the payroll cut i think what i heard george saying is that the reason people want go out and they can't participate in the economy and they are worried about contract ing this infection or virus whereas in 2007 and 2008 because of the housing crisis there was a money challenge but we could debate that. i don't have an issue with the payroll tax and that it will reinvigorate the kind of growth and help middle class and main street families and businesses like we wish.

i think that the bigger issue is your point. democrats and republicans have to stop acting like children and get back and pass something. i think the president deserves some sort of applause for trying to do this in an executive order way but if he would just ask republicans in the who us to go back and negotiate and democrats meet them back in the middle we could get something done here. at the end of the day one of the things government can do right now, i read the other day in the last two days that government is thinking about charging a fee for middle class and main street homeowners who are refinancing their mortgages, some .5% which will average out to about 1,500 per middle class family. if we're going to allow rich people to trade and buy things based on low interest rates for free we should allow middle class families to refinance their homes at the same bargain, at the same rate we allow rich people to do the same. neil: you raise a number of good points, you know, noelle, i'm curious there is some republican s urging the president , especially after

the latest state of better-than-expected economic news including the claims are now under 1 million, that's still eye popping at 963,000 but the trend is the trend and the argument is mr. president we don't have to go crazy with this stimulus, but it is what it is, two-thirds of americans now in the latest poll are saying we need some help. that has changed, so they've gone from don't need anything from you, uncle sam, to overwhelmingly, need something from you, uncle sam. so i'm just wondering, do republicans risk looking a little bit too callus? >> well neil, that's a great point and i think that right now , so many americans that have been devastated by the pandemic, jobless, not being able to deal with their children at home and the financial burden, i think that republicans are finding

that the argument to hold strong on the fact of not getting into the democrats wishes i think will end up backfiring on them, neil. i think that so many people can identify with needing just a little bit of help, i think playing hard ball from the republican point is going to hurt us in november, so i don't think it's really worth the fight if you ask me, and we're also seeing gap between richard poor and in my opinion, get wider and wider as you have people that are doing extremely well, doing even better, and then you have the middle class totally suffering. neil: well that's been happening under republican and democratic administrations alike, that's a separate whole show right there, but i do, rebecca, want to get some sense of why wall

street, apparently when it comes to big government, except during the meltdown when they needed rescued why are they fully embracing this stimulus and the more help the better, the bigger the deficits apparently, the less of an issue it is. that seems perverted to me. yes, neil you're right and i'm not one for big government intervention but we only have one of these things come along once in a hundred years and i won't go into the science of it. i know harold said people aren't going to work because they're afraid to work. i think that's ridiculous and completely not based on any kind of scientific fact. if you look at the numbers of deaths that we're looking at people with co-morbidity and people that are older so let's put the people at risk not back to work and let's get the rest of the country back to work but that's what wall street is see ing, neil, they are saying look. we have to either get back to work, or we need government stimulus, but you can't have it both ways. you can not shutdown the economy to the great depression levels and think without any kind of government intervention that

we're not going to have the greatest depression we've ever had. neil: you need not worry we're going to be there, i hate to jump on you, we're following how much the democrats are budging on certain issues, after this. ♪ (vo) elevate your senses. the audi a6. get exceptional offers at your local audi dealer.

right now, the negotiations are stalled. we were asked by speaker pelosi, i think, to get our numbers up to 2 or 2.5 trillion. secretary mnuchin said no, because the president prefers a $1 trillion number. neil: all right, larry kudlow telling me earlier this week he thinks it will be closer to that $1 trillion number and not the 2.5 trillion middle ground democrats proposed down from their $3.5 trillion package proposal in the beginning. the leader right now from georgia republican senator david purdue. senator good to have you with us thank you for coming in. >> good morning, neil.

neil: is it your sense that it's going to be kind of the president's plan, because you guys, republicans or democrats, couldn't come up with one of your own? >> well, we have a very good plan in place right now. focused on the fact that we still have over $1 trillion, we think, that from the first tranche of the 2.9 trillion of cares relief that's still not yet to hit the economy, but we are in a full cycle as you just heard. i believe we're going to get breakthrough here on some things that we have common ground on, like schools and health care, maybe even direct payments, but the liability protection, the bailout for larger states and then this unemployment incentive to keep people out of work, so these are things that are not insurmountable neil but right now we are at a full stop. neil: you know, senator your colleague, chuck grassley, who chairs the finance committee,

didn't like this to bypass congress on budgetary matters or on spending matters that that is congress' role not the executive branch's role. what did you think of that? >> well, do you know what? the executive orders the president put on the board actually got the negotiations moving a little bit and that's what we need to do. we need to keep putting pressure on to get common sense compromised here. look we've got an economy that wants to go. we have 7.5 million new jobs in a six week period in may and june and my state the number one thing that keeps the economy from really growing are two things. one, the fear over covid and the second thing is the unemployment premium that we've had here until just last week, so the economy wants to go i think we have a way forward. i think that the white house right now is really focusing on the safety of people from the 5-year-old going to school for the first time to our senior s who need to be quarantined and we just need to use common sense, as we find our

way through this thing, but these negotiations up here, the pressure from the states is bidding right now for congress to actually get together and compromise on this thing. neil: you know, senator this is the first time i've had a chance to talk to you since the dust-up over this campaign ad of your opponent was jewish and drawing with an exceptionally large nose , he claimed the campaign staff you knew nothing about the ad and hadn't seen it before you went out. have you fired anyone as a result of that? >> yeah, we discontinued that relationship. it's an outside vendor actually, it was a technical mistake actually, it was not intentional but we got rid of the outside vendor. we have a new vendor right now. look, i'll stand on my record. this is not the first time a friend of israel or the friend of the jewish people has been victimized here, falsely. i'll stand on that record. i talked to all of the groups. everybody knows where i've been. my first trip as the united states senator was to israel, to

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neil: all right, a demonstration is planned for chicago today. they hope this one will be calmer than what we've seen in the past, because its been a bumpy ride going on in the windy city the magnificent mile not looking so magnify sec sent lately and a lot of store and shop owners have boarded afraid to reopen as if people would come to their shops grady trimble is very closely throughout the week joining us now from chicago with more. grady do you know, what are the

plans today for this march, demonstration, whatever they're calling it? >> reporter: well, protesters plan to march down the dan ryan expressway but it's billed as a peaceful protest and the organizers are actively discouraging any type of looting or violence but city officials aren't taking any chances after what happened along the magnificent mile leaving many businesses looted and many more boarded up just like this verizon store on michigan avenue. police in chicago plan to flood the downtown area with 1,000 officers this weekend. the city has created a looting task force in partnership with the fbi as well as a 20-person unit to mind and monitor social media for any sort of suspicious activity. remember last sunday's looting police say was organized in part on social media, so if police get reports of looting they will deploy rapid response teams, they will use concrete barriers to block roads and even use stop strips to flatten car tires.

there could never be any place in chicago where businesses are afraid to open. where residents an visitors are afraid to travel and shop. >> the message for this weekend is simple. chicago does not, i repeat, does not belong to looters. >> reporter: business leaders here are emphasizing the importance of the magnificent mile not just for the downtown area but the entire city, downtown businesses generate about $2 billion in property tax revenue each year. some stores though, elected officials fear, could abandon the city after this most recent round of looting. in fact macy's, according to reports, could partially or fully pull out of its michigan avenue location, and chicago business reports that's in relation to the recent looting, mayor lori lightfoot disputes that saying contract negotiations have been going on for several months now before

even the first round of looting but neil this is very tough for these national retailers but also small businesses in chicago neil: i'd imagine that is an under statement my friend, great reporting on this throughout the week grady and much appreciated my friend grady trim bell on that in chicago we'll keep you posted as will fox later on the day when this march ensues again they want it to be a peaceful march and most have been it's just when looters take control. my next guest could tell you a thing or two about what that is like, in fact i want to show you some surveillance video that was done, that indicates just how bad things got here. the guy with the gun is not a cop. he's a store owner and that's how tense things were. the impartial imperial jewelry owner, i should say, joins us right now, on how nasty that was getting, anyway, that looks pretty scary, terry. tell us why you did what you did

>> well after the first round of looting back in may, they destroyed our building, so this time, i just wanted to stop as much destruction as possible and decidedly come down right away after i heard the alarm ring, and so like i came down and i just decided to just push people away and tell them to get out, because there's no jewelry out for anybody to take. everything is locked up in the vault. neil: what are your thoughts with the chicago mayor talking about some of these seem to be coming from the outside. they were rental vans, buses, but they were not coming from nearby or she suspects so this might have been an ideal opportunity for looters to sort

of take advantage of a crisis. do you think that's the case? >> for me it's hard to say. i don't know where they're coming from but there's so many of them. there's so many looters from everywhere. the license plates i see were from all over. they were from states surround ing us they were from wisconsin, it's just hard to say where they were coming from. neil: you know, terry, part of this plan that's being discussed by the mayor and state officials is to coordinate with the cook county sheriff's office, the state police, and indeed the fbi. do you have greater faith with the beef-up in patrols along business corridors outside your shop, et cetera, that you can safely reopen or are you just leary? >> with more of law enforcement in the area, we feel safer, so walking around and having our customers come down, we do feel safer with just having more

police presence, having more security, because it stops the looters from even thinking about it. neil: how are you holding up in and your workers. that had to be pretty scary not once but twice to deal with this >> yeah, we're okay. the first time we were closed for quite a bit because it was just destruction everywhere. we can open to the public and after we cleaned it up this time , we did not take as much damage as last time, so we were able to kind of keep going and open up the next day. neil: you're a tough guy terry. i tell you i wouldn't mess with you. so thank you very much for your resilience through all of this. i mean, it's chicago proud i can understand why but hopefully, cooler calmer heads and days prevail. terry te following a very very closely has an investment stake in all of this as do lots of folks. this is a beautiful city, it's

an international beacon for a lot of people who want to do business, see business but they can't, they can't do that because of looters. in the meantime, some good news on the international front when it comes to peace. do any of you remember jimmy carter's camp david accord back in 1978, at that time, jimmy carter invited egypt and israel when they historically recognized each other's right to exist that was the start, president trump may be trumping that with a deal for israel and the united arab emirate to let bisect gones be bisect gones , after this. ♪ here's your iced coffee! ♪ america runs on dunkin'

neil: so let me get your take on the significance of this deal. there are many other middle eastern nations that want nothing to do with israel, even though a good man it of them quietly do business with israel. do you think others will follow? >> i think for sure others will follow, and i have made it clear that we should quickly pursue lebanon. we have been working on peace deals this peace deal for a very long time. neil: all right, rick grenell our former ambassador to germany of course acting intelligence director as well weighing in on the significance of israel, and the united arab emirate, sort of

burying the hatchet wanting to recognize and do business with one another, and this means israel has normalized relations over the course of decades now, with egypt, with jordan and now of course the united arab emirate. it's a business with some other countries in the region but you never know where this goes in fact lt. general jerry boykin, the best selling author of so many books was weighing in on this and i believe you'd said general that this is the middle east, nothing is guaranteed, and i get you on that front, but what do you think happens right now? rick grenell held out the hope that maybe lebanon could be the next to go but that seems to be a leap to me but your thoughts. >> well i think lebanon will be a really hard case simply because of the influence of hezbollah there, which is associated with iran, so i think iran will pull out all stops to prevent that kind of alliance with israel, but i think that, i think this is historic and i think that this president has

demonstrated that he is the most pro-israel president since harry true man but i will tell you, i'm in new orleans right now at a men's conference with evangelical men and there's quite a division now among evangelicals over the support for this. many of them -- neil: why? >> many are not pleased. well because they're very sensitive about judea and samaria, which is otherwise called the west bank because they believe that is sovreign israeli territory and they see that this whole idea of suspending what was supposed to have been, you know, an opportunity to place more israelis which, israel is getting a lot of people in, place more israelis in the sama ria region, by annexing they see that as rile law enforcement a failure diplomatic

ally. neil: you know, general from what i understand pivotal to this deal in getting the uae to go along was israel halting that annexation along the west bank yet when i talked earlier in the week with the former mayor of israel, of course in the west bank, he seemed to sluff it of saying oh, this is a bone we threw to the uae, in other words those settlements and expansions will continue. i don't know if the uae would take kindly to that, or whether that could disrupt the deal, but what do you think? >> well i think that there's a lot of speculation on just that. it was a suspension that was not a cancellation of annexation. it was just a suspension, and benjamin netanyahu's base, his far right base is sort of in the same situation that many of the american evangelicals are. they are very much against the suspension of that, and again, it's sensitivity of what they consider to be sovreign israeli territory, so i don't know what the future holds but i

would say that if they do renig on this and the annex, even part of that jordan valley which is the real prize here, i would say that this whole deal is probably in jeopardy but again, this is the middle east, and you just cannot forecast what's going to happen in any situation like this. i do believe other arab countries will now be more inclined though to sign an alliance also as they watch the iranian threat growing, especially as they come closer to a nuclear weapon, i think you'll see other arab nations that are willing to do the same thing, so this is a historic situation and a good situation in a lot of ways but it's also, it has some setbacks here. politically as well as diplomatically. neil: general, we'll watch it very closely. it's always good having you on my friend especially when we stick to the subject that we agreed to, right?

you make note of the fact we don't, but it's always an honor to have you and by the way, the general is not only a multiple best selling author he's one not to brag but this guy has a purple heart, bronze star, much much more. he never mentioned it to anyone, ever. that is heroic. if i had a 4h farm, blue ribbon, i would tell the world. general, thank you very much, my friend good having you and thank you for all you've done for the country. >> thank you. neil: all right, you just heard what the general said about if you're hoping that maybe lebanon could become the next country to sort of recognize israel, you do have that as well, the hiccup to recognize and maybe that is all the more pronounced, now a couple of weeks after that massive explosion in beirut, and that's where you'll find tre y yingst. >> reporter: right now we are embedded with the lebanese

army inside the fort where the explosion occurred last week the fbi is headed here this weekend to assist the officials with the investigation. senior official david hale was here at the blast site today inspecting the damage and you can see behind me it is difficult to describe, just because it is so large. buildings that are built with concrete like they were sand castles, goods sitting in the port heavily thrown across the area. off in the distance you can see the iconic grain silo for the port of beirut and that silo houses 85% of the country's grain and it is completely destroyed. this is a maiming or concern to the world and the united nations they say they will have to figure out ways to fill the void for many of the hundred people in lebanon already dealing with an economic crisis before this and now dealing with the aftermath of this blast. as we speak right now, neil there are teams around us here and they are digging through the

rubble. they are still more than 30 people missing, more than 170 were killed in the explosion, and many of their bodies found in the water behind me here. to give you a sense of just how powerful the explosion was, this cruise ship behind me, it was knocked over as if it was a toy and now, there are army personnel around just guarding the area, ensuring that search and rescue teams can get in-n-out and overnight the leader of the lebanese militant group hezbollah gave a speech to the nation and as we were waiting for that speech to start you could hear guns being fired into the air in beirut and when he started to speak he had a clear message telling the lebanese people that israel is associated with this blast, that the whole country should respond. right now we have no indications that this was anything but an accident, but again the fbi is ariving this weekend. they will be joining other international players to assist in the investigation. neil?

neil: thank you, my friend, your perspective on this , and just has been stunning to watch. he's a young guy, too, on all of that. in the meantime here, want to go live to raleigh, north carolina right now getting ready for classes to start on monday, a couple of other states will continue to pick up the baton here also start classes and here is the thing though. in most of these cases, it's virtual. you have some hybrid issues where some localities are being looking at doing it virtually and in person, can be kind of goofy but right now, the hope is get kids at least back to learning even if they are doing it virtually, after this.

neil: all right, it's back-to-school, but not the way we were probably thinking it be , about a year ago at this time, because this go around, the states that are opening up

for classes as normal they won't be normal, for over half the kids in this country they will be virtual, and then another 20% will be a hybrid between virtual and in-person, and really, only about 20% as of this date, will be going exclusively in-person. i don't know how it's all going to break down with north carolina and california finish their get back-to-school process , but bottom line it's going to be confusing, all sorts of new rules in place and guidelines, restrictions, great to have her back here very calm ing influence here on what we should and shouldn't do doctor good to have you back how have you been doing? >> i've been okay it's good to see you how are you? neil: i'm fine. what about these kids and what they have to look forward to, the ones that let's say first are going to be there in person? >> that's right. well so, you know, there's going to be a lot of changes or should be a lot of changes for kids that go back-to-school in person, but let me just jump back real quickly neil. you'd said something in the intro about how last year

this time we didn't think this is what we were going to be faced with of course not last year, i would even argue three, four months ago even when coronavirus just starting to kind of really pick up speed in march or april we were talking about covid so i didn't imagine that we be here. i was hopeful, you know, that we would not be in this place. this is the thing. i believe in in-person school as much as possible. kids get so many resources from schools, from educational resources obviously, but to psychological resources to programs that they need, special needs programs, meals, you name it; however it has to be done safely and kids should not go back-to-school if it's not safe in the community, but for those going back-to-school, that small percentage of those that are going back-to-school, they really need to be putting into place the cdc guidelines and mandates that have that have been recommended and neil it's a whole list of things but those things really need to be implemented to keep those children going back and parents and teachers as safe as

possible. neil: all right, thank you, doctor very much i apologize for truncated time with this breaking news but always good catching up with you however briefly, be safe and healthy and yourself and family, and you probably have been hear ing about all of these college conferences one after another saying sorry no season or we're pushing it back. i want you to meet the purdue university head football coach who has a message to his conference and the nation as a whole. there is a better way. find out what his is, after this

neil: all right, so the big 10 like a lot of other college conferences looking at delaying fall sports, football among them , for the fall season here.

jeff brohm, the purdue university head football coach says there are other options, guys, he joins us right now. coach very good to have you. i was breaking down the plans and options that you were considering and they're really good but i just want to know before we get into the details whether you bounce them off not only the school, but the conference. >> actually, this is a plan put together just by me. we were disappointed to have the season canceled and it was disappointing to our players our seniors that put in a lot of hard work and time and i just kind of got home at night and said do you know what let's try to put something together and give these guys a chance to play football the sooner the better but we have to wait until the spring and let's put a plan together and put something out there, something concrete, with facts and figures, and reasons why this can work, and i just felt like with those details and the information that i put in the packet that let's get the ball rolling to get those , get these guys back on the field. neil: all right now part of it involves doing it in two stages

pushing it back but not stopping it. explain. >> well, i think as a big 10 from a coach and player standpoint we felt like we had a lot of things in place on our campus to continue on. we were keeping our guys safe with being able to sterilize and sanitize and keep things spaced out, have small groups, but we got rolling and we had to move forward and it wasn't going to happen this fall so i wanted to put a plan together to allow us more time to get more information maybe get possible better testing options, rapid testing options, develop better health protocols, maybe even with the spring season allow us time for the vaccine that should be coming hopefully by the end of the year to come in place because i think it's important that if we can do that, a lot of things can improve and get better maybe we can get fans in the stands. neil: real quickly just to be clear you want to do something so maybe you can play limited number of games in february, pick up a little bit more in the spring. in other words still save the

seasonal be it later? >> yeah, save the season, make a little bit condensed with a spring season and maybe condense the fall but make sure we're taking care of the players bodies and we're not the wear and tear and the physical contact and we can work with that, but we knee to get our guys back playing football. neil: i think that it's a number of good ideas and very reasonable. you bring it to the conference, obviously, bring it to mitch daniels the school president because they're very common sense and they look after the safety of everybody, the players first and foremost. i wish you luck, coach you're one of the few trying to advance the ball on this , in an adult way. be well, coach thank you so much >> thanks for having me. neil: all right, we have a lot more coming up here. still no news out of capitol hill. probably because there's no one on capitol hill right now. congress is gone and will be gone, right through labor day, but there's still a push among states to find ways to pay for all of this coronavirus fall

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>> you are looking live at the united states capitol or so you will be where the tension is building because, well, there's nobody there. the senate and the house are out of session and they will remain that way right through august. come back after labor day and they're e-mailing past each other on plans to revisit the stimulus measure which right now is sort of caught in the mud. the president is proposing a trillion dollars and the democrats want two and a half to three trillion dollars, but they don't like some of the executive actions he has taken and a big point of contention

is no aid to states presently planned, at least in the president's plan so that's gotten to be a sticky wicket here. and the states are saying if we don't get help from uncle sam we'll have to do something here. in california, a california assemblyman has come up with a solution, zap the rich, not just a little, but a lot. the 1%-- the 1/3 of one percent slice of the california public. and by taxing them and their overall worth, not just what they make, he could raise $7 and a half billion. but it gets more curious here because if they bolt, he still plans to tax them after they do. take a look. >> after they move and they've left, you're still taxing them? they're no longer california residents. you can't legally do that. >> for 10 years the wealth was

accumulated during their time in california, during the nexus they had with the state of california and that's what we're proposing in our bill. we believe we can do that, certainly we're open to dialog and discussion as we move the bill forward, but we think it's a sound approach and has strong legal foundation. neil: it sounds like they'd be prisoners of california. they might hate it, might hate getting screwed by the tax man, but you're not letting them leave. if you leave i'm still going to zoom you. >> you remember senator elizabeth warrant warren had the penalty if you changed citizenship. this is not that. but wealth accumulated over time in california and if we're going to have a wealth tax. neil: what if it wasn't. what if someone moved from another localocale and got the money in another state, another

locale, he, she arrives in your beautiful state and learns that that wealth is going to be taxed. >> it is a beautiful state, thank you. when people move in from out of state, the same applies, the wealth tax phases in 10% a year over 10 years so they're not hit with it on day one. it recognizes that wealth may have been accumulated outside of california and once they move to california that that wealth. neil: assemblyman, if i'm one of those who knows -- i'm a wealthy person, i'm moving to california and i know they have a he got a graduated plan, a wealth plan to start when i move there, why the hell would i want to move there? >> because it's california. because we have some of the greatest business eco systems, markets, the largest state in the nation, one of the greatest education systems for work force. we have silicon valley and the eco system of-- >> no, no, assemblyman, you're quite right, you have a lot of

allures that appeal to a great number of people, but the fact of the matter is, they were not appealing enough for scores of companies to leave your state, go to places like texas or florida, safer confines for themselves and their money. it hasn't just been an exodus, it's been a jail break. >> look, on the margins, neil, some businesses may decide to leave. that's their decision. neil: all right. don't dismiss that. there are measures popping up in california across the various cities 0 are regions. something like it is being considered, whether it's that-- charlie gasperino was so close to moving to california and heard this exchange and said maybe not yet. charlie, what do you think of this? >> neil, i think this segment is so important, i literally ran here, bolted. your producers, called me, moved up my hit time and i ran, bolted my last mile up hills to

get here on time so if i'm sweating, that's why. neil: really? >> neil, because it's you, i didn't shower, i want you to know that. neil: i don't want to go there, but i'm grateful you're here. [laughter]. >> i'm wondering, we might look at this and say it's crazy and all, but this these of proposals are popping up and-- >> yeah, they're going to keep popping up. listen, i'm looking at the constitutionality, i'm thinking i remember mario cuomo-- >> you can't do it, you can't do it. >> mario cuomo back in the 1990's used to send his insurance commissioner to jersey to take down the license plates of new york people going there to get lower sales taxes. that was legal because they were new york state residents. it's different about this, if i move from texas to california they think they have a claim on my wealth even though i'm a citizen of the sovereign state of texas. that's insane. i don't know how you -- this

is, i guess-- >> he's basing it, this assemblyman is basing this on a good deal of the wealth and adding to your worth you did in california and you just can't leave and think-- i fully agree, but i'm wondering where does it go? >> i mean, it's nuts. i could see going to the state, okay, you move in, you move your assets there, then the state does have a right to tax the assets that are in the state, but when you move out, listen, this thing is rife for constitutional challenges. remember obamacare was challenged, it was challenged on i believe the interstate commerce law, because it was, you know, imposing various structures and mandates on insurance companies throughout the states, but that was a federal law. this is a state law and that was constitutionality, deemed constitutional by justice roberts essentially the deciding vote. this is different, he gets my assets when i move away, he has a claim on it, a lean on it.

i've never heard of that. that takes eminent domain. neil: it's a trend, charlie. think about it. in new jersey where they're looking at a big deficits here, kicking around an surtax on the wealthy and even though governor cuomo himself have gotten leery about them, and they've got to find ways to get money. the first thing they think of is go after the charlie gasperinos of the world. >> well, i'm running to the shower right now so they can't catch me. neil: all right, that's good to know. >> i guess i could ask you my friend for doing that. all right, yeah, all right. texas, florida, we'll see what happens. charlie, thank you for making the effort to run here, but you said you were running uphill both ways, i used to tell my kids that, you can't run uphill both ways. [laughter] >> in the meantime, you've got

the major problems ready to kick off their quadrnnial conventions. and joe biden and in the case of the president, we're hearing it's at the white house, it won't be at the convention site. who gets the better of the convention bounce teas coming virtually, after this. n. the next frontier of electric. get an exceptional offer at your local audi dealer.

>> all right. protesters gathering outside the washington d.c. home of the postmaster general over claims that his cost cutting measures are slowing down mail delivery and could impact mail-in voting in november. according to those monitoring it, the organizers from a group called shut down d.c., organized the noise

demonstration outside his home so he could hear loudly and clearly how against the leadership they are and the post office folding to president trump's wishes. it is what it is so i'd share that with you. in the meantime, giving you an update right now on conventions that kick off. the democrats, first off, next week. the republicans right after that. jacqui heinrich monitoring all of these developments with the vice-president, the former vice-president in wilmington, delaware. >> hey there, neil. after months of coronavirus shutdowns are we're just starting to get information what the convention looks like and it might be the dnc has the hottest lineup of the summer. we'll see who the republicans have. bil bill ie eilish, the chicks, john

lend and others. and an effort to show broad support. michelle obama will speak on monday and on tuesday aoc and bill clinton will deliver remarks. later on we'll hear from harris and biden. when kamala harris accepts the vice-president nomination, she'll be the first woman on the presidential democratic ticket. >> joe biden had the audacity to choose a black woman to be his running mate. how incredible is that? and what a statement about joe bid biden. >> it appears democrats might be closing the enthusiasm gap a little bit after adding harris in the ticket. in 48 hours after she was announced as biden's running mate the campaign brought in $48 million it's a huge sum when you hear that he raised 60

million in all of 2019. he praised his pick, he said i'm proud that kamala harris is at my side now, she's a fighter, she knows how to govern and make tough calls. we're both ready to get to work to rebuild the country. and yesterday biden got the endorsement from the postal workers union, amid concerns about mail-in voting and president trump wants to see that outcome. neil. neil: hence the protests at the postmaster general's home. thank you very much for that jack why i hinrich. she's going to be busy, i think. >> and don peebles, close confidante of birmingharack oba i don't know if you were on the ropes with the biden folks and the likelihood of his election, did this pick change your mind,

confirm the party is still very, very progressive, too far left, what? >> well, i've thought that the vice-president picked the person i thought he would have picked all along, which is kamala harris. she was the best option, regardless of gender or race, and i think that the focus ought to be on her capabilities and where she stands politically. i mean, i think that brings the party and the ticket more to the center and i guess somewhat respectful of some of the issues to the left and i think that's a good thing and i think it makes this ticket more plausible to more conservative democrats like me. neil: you know, there's a raging debate as to whether she's just an over the top liberal, the most liberal member of the senate. her voting record doesn't put her, the top five of that. leaving that aside, the rblts are saying, democrats are saying, no, not quite. where are you on this and whether she's an extreme lefty or a lefty or kind of a lefty?

what? >> i think that she tries to look at issues from all perspective and sometimes that's hard to do by the way. i would look at her as much more as a scentrist or left of center. i do not see her as far left. if you look at had her record and criminal justice and as a prosecutor in san francisco and and as attorney general in the state of california, you'll see a more moderate element of her initiatives in terms of how she's taking things and addressing issues in those two roles. neil: now, she would not be the first politician to have chameleon-like sen tendencies. in her prosecutor case she had a tough record on crime and those who are repeat offenders. that might have hurt her among progressives, she quit the race back in december before we had the first caucuses.

but it might help her on a general election. what are your thoughts there? >> well, i think there is some aspect of helping her in the general election, but i think that in order for the democrats to win, they're going to need turnout levels like 2008 and that requires an excitement on the ticket. barack obama was an amazingly exciting and transformative candidate. i think her issues with regard to criminal justice and her conduct as district attorney and attorney general have turned off the far left of the party, especially the progressives out there protesting. i think they'll settle down a bit because they really don't have an alternative. the alternative to them would be trump-pence and they've shown that's not an acceptable outcome. i'm not sure it gives them the enthusiasm. democrats need progressives to turn out and overwhelming turnout in terms of african-american support. i think they need african-americans to be 14 to

15% of the electorate in order to win and that's only half in the recent time in 2008 with barack obama and this ticket does not have the same excitement as barack obama. what they're running on is that the current administration is unacceptable to democrats and therefore, this is your alternative, and it may not be what you want, but what you need at this moment. >> obviously, i'd follow the vice-president very closely on the stump. he's not on the stump very much. when he comes out of his home, his man cave, whatever you want to call it, it's like a rope-a-dope strategy, but sometimes i wonder who is the dope because if he's playing it so cautiously, he's not under the line of fire. say what you will of donald trump, good, bad or ill, he takes on all questioners, whether he's leaving the white house, on the way to marine one or at a venue where he starts talking to reporters. he's well practiced in the

fight, in the battle. and every time i see joe biden and i'm not criticizing his age the older i get and forget what i had for breakfast this morning, who am i to judge. having said that, do you think that joe biden is rusty? do you think he's not ready for this and they're holding him back from these venues because they get worried about it, too? >> you know, your analogy of running out the clock or rope-a-dope, this campaign so far made me think about the super bowl a couple of years ago when atlanta had run up a big lead at halftime against new england and spent the time to try to run the clock out and we know what happened, new england won the super bowl and became the champions again. my concern is i don't think the campaign is showing enough confidence in the vice-president. i think the more the vice-president gets out into the-- >> there's good reason though, right? there's good reason, he has the halting performances and forget his train of thought.

again, i'm not wrapping it on the old age thing, but i'm wondering whether every time people see him in these venues and he's strumbling through these questions, whether it's going to hurt him and maybe democrats who are pushing this ticket recognize that. >> well, i think the solution is not to keep the vice-president out of the mix. i think the solution is to get rid of this rust and get him out in the mix and let him try to find his legs and comfort zone. if he doesn't do that and he goes out and debates president trump rusty, i don't think that's going to help him either. i think, again though, everyone kind of has formulated their opinion about where the vice-president is in his style, in his communication skills. everyone kind of sees donald trump as someone who does have-- >> you know, don, i don't think they have and i respect the heck out of you. i don't think they're seen him enough, certainly, lately to know and when they do, it depends on your point of view. sometimes someone who is

halting and their speech is a little bit off, there are equal number of people with the rapid fire approach that donald trump uses and i get that. i don't think that people know the degree to which biden might have lost his-- >> well, i think that people look at donald trump and no one think that donald trump is at a loss for word or significant says what he doesn't want to say. and with the vice-president, if he gets out and expresses himself and not get so defensive because he's rusty. i think he'll do better. i mean, i think that again, he vice-president for eight years, a very public vice-president and he just has not been campaigning for a while in terms of being in the spotlight and then also, of course, the media is giving him a much more, you know, a much more

stronger magnifying glass and are looking at him differently. so these mistakes that he made as vice-president, i mean, he was doing it the same thing as vice-president. now as the -- running for being commander-in-chief, i think that people are looking at him a lot more clearly now. neil: i don't think he's the same as he was when he was vice-president. we'll see how he goes because there you go again, don. we'll see, my friend. don peebles. the fallout from these perceptions right after this. awesome internet.

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that. do you think it will signal 10.2% unemployment rate we've got now, down from almost 15% at the height of all of this, is going to be under 10%? >> continuing claims coming down, neil. some people think that's a leading indicator of the unemployment rate. i wouldn't be surprised if it dropped to single digits in the august report. neil: all right. now, larry kudlow saying he's optimistic that the friend is his friend. and that economists that agree or that 10 #.2% unemployment and prior to the coronavirus, 3% for our lows. it's come down from 15%, at the rate it's going it's likely to be in single digits. will that close the deal? it's important because the americans are increasingly worried about the economy even if the latest trend. the latest fox poll that shows right now people rate the economy only fair or poor.

now, that is down from its-- back january 20th when 55% thought things were excellent or good. is that a worry for the president? lee carter, g.o.p. pollster and much, much more. what do you think? >> you know, i think it is somewhat of a concern, but here is the one thing that i think that the president needs to keep in mind. of all the attributes, of all the considerations that people are making, one thing that they think the president is going to do better than joe biden and this is the only thing when you look at the list, is the economy. depending on the polls, 3 to 5 points on the economy. he doesn't lead on covid, he doesn't lead on china, he doesn't lead on health care. those are things to be concerned about. but most people think the president is the one who is going to do a better job when it comes to the economy. and the extent that they're going to vote with their pocketbook, but he needs to increase that lead.

neil: i get that it's the economy, stupid. i hasten to add, it's different this time because of the virus, it's risky. but the virus seems to be a superceding issue, whether the way the president is handling it, more reopenings going on and i know the reopenings and everything does tie to the economy and the more of that, the more the economy grows. which once out as far as the deciding issue here? >> you know, i think it really depends how bad it gets. right now only one in five americans feel like covid is under control. and that's really not good news. i think that the handling of covid is a big concern among americans, if you look at polling, 14 points ahead, jo ebb is on handling of covid people expect him to be. the problem that joe biden has, and this is a really big problem, there was a super pac of him released memo about focus groups. i know joe biden, but i have no idea where he stands on the

issues that are important to me. only 30% of americans know what a joe biden president would look like. this week when he's out with his convention, it's important that people feel confident what he's going to do, and know what joe biden's america would look like. it's not enough to say i think he might be better than donald trump and that's going to make me go out and vote. because enthusiasm is everything. two-thirds who are voting for joe biden are voting against donald trump. and if people are concerned about the virus this that's not going to get them out the door and in line to vote. he has to make his case and get people excited. >> yeah, you want to jazz your base, there's early evidence that kamala harris is doing that for joe biden. ultimately, and you remind me over the years, we've known each other, it's the top of the ticket that counts. the president seems to be

focusing a lot on kamala harris. you know, the people like karl rove said don't punch down, don't make her the issue, make joe biden the issue, but there might be a strategy to that. right? if you try to tell the american people that this joe is out of it, he's not going to be the guy. she's really going to be pulling the strings. he's not saying that outright, but because of the focus, let's see the direction the party is taking and this ticket will take. what do you think of that? >> i think we see when as vp pick comes in, there's excitement. we saw with john mccain and sarah palin, it didn't last. i'm curious with kamala harris. there's a bump and enthusiasm. but let's not forget she has high highs, and low lows. she came in as a presidential candidate herself and expected her to be the top of the ticket. after three debates people

weren't sure where she stood on issues important to them. so i think that donald trump's strategy is to sort of exploit that inconsistent experience that people have with kamala harris. i don't think he should be punching down. i think he should be focused on the things most important to his voters and his story because a lot of people are wondering. what does a make america great again look like now? they want to hear what he's proposing. i think when he was working on getting a deal done, i have to go to executive orders to buy relief for people. you see his numbers come up, the fact that congress left without a deal done and this president stepped in and did something, that's something that he should be talking about and focusing on america, americans, not on the other guy. neil: got it. well said. lee, thank you very much. lee carter, following all of that closely here. >> thank you. neil: i want to update you on a couple of things we're getting

out of florida, coronavirus, cases 569,versus 567, 285 on friday. the testing goes on, we'll have more.

>> all right, chicago hopes to avoid any problems like some of the looting and violence that we were seeing earlier in the week and this will be a big

day, 25,000 expected to march on what they call a black lives matter march, shut down dan ryan, a major artery, highway in chicago. the mayor, lori lightfoot said we will not let anyone destroy the fabric of our city. unfortunately that's happened enough, a lot of business owners would quibble that it's already happened and it's too late. guy joins us, the owner of a store looted in chicago. how are you holding up now? >> we're doing good. we're taking it day by day. neil: can you tell me a little about what happened? was this earlier in the week? was this the first wave of violence, what? >> no, it was when the wave that happened monday morning, we woke up and saw a news alert and we came in and we found the shop basically in disarray, damaged, a lot of things randomly thrown about,

destroyed, stolen. a lot of damage just for the sake of damage and we just -- we were closed for a couple of days afterwards and we've basically been trying to make sure we can keep moving forward and successful here for our community since. neil: are you worried about the planned march today? its aim is to be peaceful, the aim of a couple of other demonstrations. what are you doing today? >> well, we opened up early, we got our flowers and we're processing them and we're trying to treat it like a normal day. the bigger concern i have is kind of more long-term if the overall wealth days parity in chicago, if those continue to occur besides one or two marches, what's going to occur long-term. if this is the automatic reaction whenever there's a legitimate concern or a shooting, that needs to be addressed long-term with opportunity, with jobs, with more lending in certain areas so we feel like beyond one or two marches, something needs to change.

peaceful marches, we've handed out flowers and we're not worried about the marches themselves. it's the more institutional things, but these march the not to happen when there's distrust or anger. neil: and your city, you know more about this than i do, among the plans they're going to have officials adding increased patrols in retail corridors including yours throughout the city. there's going to be a crackdown on social media for any signs or hints of people planning looting or the kind of stuff that you had to deal with. what's interesting here, a coordinated response working with the cook county sheriff's office, the state police, and this one surprised me, the fbi. so an outside player and i'm just wondering how you think all of that is going to work out? >> well, as long as we don't see what happened in portland where there's the escalation and you don't know who works for who.

and we're all for security, and on our block we want people to continue to want to move to the city and empty nesters, and young professionals of all different diversities. we want to make sure that people want to remain here. security-wise we see more presence where the bigger box high end stores are, more than in our area, but the security is important and then making sure long-term that there is escalation-- if things are helping out and things aren't escalating. and so more help is great. i know the mayor is careful that we could handle it locally, but as long as there's input from locals and local businesses and people marching and protesting to legitimate reasons as long as they don't feel they're being oppressed. that's important, too. neil: i hear you. you've got a very balanced view of this. a city owner, chicago store was looted and obviously doesn't want to see that happen again. hopefully he won't.

we'll be following the developments in chicago all day, and the march that's planned and stress that it will be a peaceful march. i don't know what the weather will be like in the chicago area, i do know out west, particularly california they're looking at some scorching temperatures. you're looking at santa monica right now where they could actually make a dicey situation worse. we'll explain after this. (announcer) now more than ever, it's important to lose weight,

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>> all right, it is hot out there for a good third of the nation. it's going to be looking at record hot temperatures, at least so far this summer. the summer has already been pretty toasty to put it mildly. you're looking at santa monica, california. the big worry there, the hotter is gets the more people crowding the beaches and the more people crowding, the less social distancing and you know the concern there. and rick reichmuth is following this closely. what are we looking at? >> yeah, it's been an

incredibly hot summer as you said. even across the east and definitely across the west. southwest, for example, phoenix normally, you get over 110 degrees. the record they've seen, the most days over 110 degrees has been 33. today will be the 39th day over 110 degrees. those are not the kind of records that you like to see breaking across parts of the south and also in the southwest, this is generally a time when you get monsoonal moisture. monsoon season is the only moisture we've seen across new mexico and this monsoon season has been a dud and this is when you want to get the moisture. that said, the dud of a monsoon season the drought creeps up. we've seen drought explode out of the red and exceptional drought and where you see that red. that's across parts of the four corners and in across the central pacific coastline up towards oregon. portland, you're going to be incredibly hot. we've got the advisories at the

seaboard and then in texas. take a look at the temperatures, this is not a feels-like, this is actually air, upper 90's with a lot of areas into the triple digit. these are going to be record breaking temperatures there. that heat continues with us into the day on sunday and go out across parts of the west. take a look here, 113 in phoenix, 122, 123 across the areas around death valley. today we're going to be at about 1 #-- 102 in portland, oregon. a break across the west, but noi break across california. we're breaking records. santa cruz broke their daily record by nine degrees so blowing away the records here, no real change in this pattern, neil. in fact, phoenix, we'll be in the triple-digit range, say over 110 at least until thursday and no real moisture coming in. there's a lot of fires going on and this story is going to be with us for a while.

neil: incredible. rick, thank you very much. reich reichmuth on all of that. we'll keep you posted. and they're expected to start filling up. and a lot of times when we cover on fox business, if you don't have, you should demand. a good many of you do, one of the bullish factors of the market has been companies buying other companies, that's a great sign of confidence and you see it in a host of industries. when fat burger, that brand scooped up johnnie rockets, it was a $25 million deal and the guy behind it said he might not end it there. andrew, the ceo joins us now. very good to have you. when you said that, i began wondering, well, who would be next? would it be another burger place? what? >> you know, there's a lot of opportunities. thanks for having me, neil. a lot of opportunities, i think they'll come at us and i think we have to look at the brand that will make it and stay in power. the restaurant industry is

going to be back, it's going to be banged up for a while, but a great opportunity for us to be buying more brands. neil: you were doing this in the face of much of the nation still with the distancing provisions and all of the rest and some restaurants closed if they didn't have drive-thru. i'm wondering whether you were pouncing ahead of the reopening of the entire economy or regardless, whether that happens right away or not? >> dining rooms in california are still closed, right. still closed. and it's crazy, but look, covid-19 is a short-term crisis. it's going be to over at some point in the future here and we're making brand acquisitions for the long-term. we have a focus on figuring out what works best for our system. and we care about the mom and pops that they need to make money and there's plenty of opportunities to come at us here that i think we'll take advantage. neil: i'm curious what you make

of the whole imitation, incredible burger and all of this, impossible beef. i'm wondering how that plays into your plans. >> very interesting question. so we launched impossible burger back when they first came out. we were the first burger brand to launch with them and we used to sell 500,000 veggie burgers across the dinner locations and now we're selling one million impossible burgers across our fat burger system and now it's in the other brands like hurricane grill and wings. buffalo's cafe and we'll introduce it to johnny rockets. if you're not on the plant-based protein train you'll miss the ride here. same thing with vegan milk shakes, we've introduced those across the brand. you have to have the alternative menu items to bring diversity for customers. neil: now your burgers are

decidedly bigger than johnny rocket's burgers? is that a culture clash? >> we have the elevation burger, grass-fed, australian burger chain on the east coach and fat burger is more like an urban followed brand predominantly on the west coast. johnny rockets is a theme brand. i feel like having it in the portfolio, when we sit down with a landlord, amusement park operator or a shopping center or retail location, we can figure out what's best for that neighborhood to attract the right customer and take care of them. neil: yeah, i just prefer the bigger burgers, andrew, and your burgers hit the spot. i wish you well with this. i can't believe you stay so thin and fit running this empire, but you do, so i guess it's possible. the fat brand ceo. that was deemed a very encouraging development when he scooped up that kind of cash to buy johnny rockets.

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>> all right. i know you probably get sick of hearing this, there are conventions going on and the democrats kick off theirs and the week after the republicans. they're both essentially virtual. neither of the nominees or tickets will be there in person to accept their party's nomination and their speeches will be apart from where those folks are. first time we've ever seen that. we came close in 1860, but abraham lincoln ended up doing his at the convention site. although i remember that because i covered it it was

dicey. [laughter] >> if you don't get a convention bounce or the virtual bounce, where do you get your bounces from? well, for team biden, kamala harris on the ticket right now, they've been busy bees raising money. the president has been raising money as well and he leads in the overall money race, but clearly the enthusiasm gap for the biden camp grew with the pick of kamala harris. how long that lasts is anyone's guess. susan crabtree, normally you think of conventions as an opportunity where the candidate can get a bounce. michael dukakis famously got a bounce from his convention in 1988, leading by 20-plus points in the poll. we know later in the year he lost in a landslide, but you count on the convention bounces. it doesn't sound like we'll have that in this go round. >> the big important thing is the money space and with kamala

harris they did have a 26 million that they collected in one day. personal, it's a much, you know, more energetic pace than we've seen before. she hasn't been very good at attracting individual dollars, individual donors to her election. you know, she was one of the first people to go out during the primary, but in that 24 hours there was 150,000 new donors to the biden campaign so they're seeing a bit more energy there. i'm not sure it could have gotten any more lethargic with all of these basement appearances. i covered the 1996 race with bob dole, that wasn't the most enthusiastic campaign i've ever seen, so i thought this one is a little bit -- getting a little bit after bounce here from her, but in terms of the money chase, you know, biden needs all the help he can get. now, trump has been a juggernaut with fund raising. he's collected $1.1 billion so far this cycle. biden is really not very good at that. he's down to 633 million.

he is actually-- but you know just like anything with household budgeting, you want to be taking in as much money as you can be, but you also have to worry about what's going out the door. the so-called burn rate in the campaign and the trump campaign has had a much higher burn rate than biden does. so now as they go into the fall they both have about 300 million in cash object hand. -- cash on hand. and trump raised more, but biden i'm sure not having been out on the stump, when americans pay attention after labor day, you're going to see the flurry of influx of ads that we're going to have and then also, the ground game is so critical this year. neil: all right. susan, thank you very much, susan crabtree, real clear politics. the president will be bizzing

crisscrossing some of the battle ground states. with the start of the campaigns, virtually or not, so are we. fox business as well. so we hope that you join us. here comes fox. more fox after this.

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