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coronavirus briefing at 5:00 p.m., a lot more throughout the day and coverage tonight of the dnc night three. >> trace: great show, past mus. great to see you. >> sandra: we will be back tomorrow morning. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin here, after delegates nominated joe biden to the top of the 2020 ticket. >> i am pleased to announce that vice president joe biden has officially been nominated by the democratic party as our candidate for president of the united states dates. he is hereby invited to deliver an acceptance speech. >> thank you very, very much from the bottom of my heart. and i will see you on thursday. bill and joe biden along with his wife had jill celebrating after gaining enough delegates to become the official nominee.
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and now gearing up for his acceptance speech scheduled for tomorrow night. the trump campaign quickly seized on the moment, saying joe biden supervisors from the radical left are now formally in charge. kellyanne conway, counselor to the president ripped the optics of the democratic convention. >> you know, when i hear some of the messaging, it does not surprise me, but i also do not understand why joe biden who has been in washington for 47 years has so many people from the swamp sort of trying to lift him up and show him how easy an outsider is that he is the guy that you need to run. i hear the name donald trump more than i hear the name joe biden at joe biden's convention, which tells you all you need to know. >> harris: tonight speaker lineup will include hillary clinton, former president obama, and joe biden's vice president selection kamala harris. the california senator facing a big test tonight and what is being called the biggest speech of her career as she accepts the
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vp nomination. senator harris is looking to bridge the divide among the liberal and moderate wings of the democratic party. and last night congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez was given that 60 seconds to speak where she strongly pushed a liberal message and never once mentioned the name of joe biden. and you are watching "outnumbered," i am harris faulkner. here today melissa francis, senior editor at "the federalist" and fox news contributor mollie hemingway. executive director serve america past marie harf. in the center seat virtually and in the real flesh, fox news senior political analyst and our friend brit hume. great to see you. >> nice to see all of you. >> harris: tell us about night two and the expectations, the audience for it, and how it did
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or did not hit the mark. >> brit: i thought it hit the mark pretty well in terms of what is certifiably the strengths of joe biden. and that was done primarily by his wife, who made what i thought was a quite effective speech in which to be she spoke of his personal travails, and he certainly had tragedy and his family and how he can make comebacks from each of those things and built a loving marriage with her after a tragedy affecting his first wi wife. and donald trump's name was never mentioned in that speech. and in some respects, that may have been what it was good about it. because part of the convention is to make people look at joe biden and say, i like this man. this is a decent man. i would be comfortable with him in the white house, so i thought her message was effective, and you know, we have a different set of challenges for them tonight, but it seemed to me that based on her speech, they
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had a pretty good night. >> harris: i will come back to you on that, that was a really good tease, a different set of circumstances. so around we will go and back to brit hume, mollie hemingway, your take on what happened last night? >> mollie: what did not work on night one of the convention did not work last night in terms of pretaped vignettes. i agree that jill biden had far and away the best speech of the convention, and it is worth noting what was just said, trump was not mention one. the only thing that unites the democratic party is their hatred and loathing of donald trump and his voters. jill biden did not talk about that. she made an affirmative case for their candidate. one of the things that was challenging is that so many of the people who were making the case for biden are of older generations, you can see that to the younger generations of the democratic party where the youth and the excitement is what is
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with alexandria ocasio-cortez, they were bringing in these people who you might have known from 20 years ago when they were architects of the iraq war, which many americans did not think was well managed. they brought those people and to say if you like the way that we did things 20 years ago with foreign policy, joe biden is your man. and i think that that is true that if you like the way that foreign policy was being done for a few decades that joe biden is your guy. but when donald trump has so many foreign policy successes in such short. periods of time, going towards asia as opposed to middle east wars, and the peace agreement last week taking trade seriously. i'm not sure if people are looking to return to the failures of the past. >> harris: you know, marie, as i come to you, "the new york times" has a team of watchers as they do the best and worst, i was reading for it this morning. everybody agrees that jill biden did what she needed to do.
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maybe not everybody, but it seemed like it. on the worst list was chuck schumer and kind of how ineffective his speech was and sort of mystery like, the statue of liberty was actually blurred out, so he kept on saying that no one could see it, we know, because we live on the east coast and know where he is standing, but what was the goal of that speech? any other name mentioned was bill clinton that he did not hit the mark like he has so many times. what are your thoughts? >> marie: i think it is hard for bill clinton to give a speech like he is use to in such a short amount of time coming used to having longer to speak. but for one of the highlights was at the beginning of the convention programming last night with the 17 young leaders in the democratic party who gave this keynote address together from across the country to members of congress, to local leaders like mayors, to state representatives, there were a lot of young democrat featured
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open in the convention. as a young democrat myself, i still get to call myself young for a few more years, that was very exciting to me. i also think that the state roll call which is normally just a very procedural part of the convention was really interesting and good last night and better than in person to see people from across the country nominating joe biden and casting their delegates from actually in the states where they were, whether it was in some of the territories or on forms where people have their livestock behind them, it was interesting and good programming. >> harris: it was interesting to see that. i see you taking a punt on senator schumer, we won't lean into hard, whatever. communications for the national director xochitl hinojosa, here she is on whether there is division within the democrats, watch. speak of the republican party
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wishes we were divided, but we are more unified than ever. on one night you have bernie sanders who is making the case for joe biden. you have a list of barack obama, michelle obama, and you also have republicans. >> harris: you know, melissa, part of what marie is talking about in terms of the delicates -- delegates, i like that too, because it get to seee in different places and the sun had not set out west. i did notice that bernie sanders won a few of those states out west like utah, nevada. and we expect for a month, his home state. but it was interesting because you had daylight close the boats were between biden and sold as a moderate to middle-of-the-road kind of guy, i guess that's what they are doing and bernie sanders who is a socialist. there is a divide, no? >> melissa: i don't know, in the one case i do agree in the sense that the democratic party is it not divided, because you
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still have the ruling class, the ruling democrat elite suddenly and control of the party, that's what they have shown us through this convention so far. i mean in so many ways it is like the zombie apocalypse where you have all of these ruling class democrats and even republicans, swamp figures just coming back from the dead to say we are still in control, and we are not going to give up this party to any of those younger people that marie is bright to be so excited about. you saw that by giving aoc only 60 seconds. i swear she taped her 60 seconds months ago before bernie sanders had conceded and i think she did not change the tape just to stick it to them. that was my impression, i was so thrown when i watched it last night. as i watch again and again, they are saying, we are not going to let go. the same people that have been in control of this party for 50 years are still hanging around.
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we are going to bring out both of the clintons, we will bring out the obamas. we have the bidens we have john kerry. everybody from the past. i think that is what they are showing all of us and to their party and it will be interesting to see if anyone gets excited about that. it's a perfect set up for president trump who is -- they say he is not as a sincere republican, not somebody who is always part of the party. he is still the outsider even though he has on the inside by the way the democrats have set it up last night, that's the way you might read it. >> harris: you mentioned alexandria ocasio-cortez, and it seems somewhat like she was the outsider last night, you know, "the new york post" highlighting today aoc did not mention joe biden and their speech. it was actually her job to nominate bernie sanders, and as you said, she could have used the same wording she used over a year ago, although a few months ago when they were still
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struggling with bernie on what to do with him in the primary campaign trail, she was trying to get him to go further left, maybe she got over that. i want to go back to brit hume, you gave us a teased about what the goals and the expectations are tonight, is it more difficult tonight? >> brit: kamala harris is making this big speech, the first of its kind for her. big national audience and in a position more important than she has ever been in before. and she is also in some respects a bridge between the biden generation in the upcoming generation of democrats let you all have been talking about. and so she has the task of boosting biden, but also letting it kind of convince these young democrats that this is the ticket you can get behind, that yes, joe biden is an old man, but she will be there as a force, and of course people believe, because biden is obviously to some extent at least senile and may not be equipped to go the distance that
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she might become president sooner rather than later, and so she -- her speech is important and a lot of spotlight will be on her more than would normally be the case for the vice presidential nominee, vice presidential nominees normally don't matter much. this one matters a lot. >> harris: when you say that people believe about the mental, and in some of the physical fitness that is being talked about between both of the candidates right now, we saw some recent polling yesterday that we had on "outnumbered overtime" that showed when you ask people about both men, both candidates, their only a point apart. do you think that this is a legitimate issue in the campaign for a people, because they are both such generic hands? or is that we are just talking about it? what is driving it? >> brit: it is an issue, because effect is that the president of the united states, whoever that is, is obviously independent. you want to elect somebody who
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is folding on top of things. and to some extent at times, joe biden has shown that he is not -- he forgets where he is. he has always made gaffes, harris, make no mistake about that. i have known him since he first came into the senate and that was a long time, gives you an idea about how old we both are, he has always made the gaffes when he said it -- we all remember when he said that poor kids, everybody is smarter, that was a classic gaffes, and we kind of know what he meant, he did not need to say it, but it's not a racist. when he is in new hampshire and asked by a local reporter how he likes the place, and he says that he likes the place, what is not to like about vermont, he has forgotten what he is. and i am the same age as he is, i have times were calling names and places and so on, and he may have problems, but he does not seem to be senile, but --
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>> harris: oh, my goodness. >> brit: when you look at a poll like you just reference, that is not someone's mental acuity of a candidate, it's about what they think of them. people don't like trump, we will say he is worse mentally than biden's. >> harris: at both of those accounts, viewers included in that, we are not doctors. and marie, i want to get your response. >> marie: yeah, i think that there are people who know joe biden for a long time, the accusation that he is somehow senile or losing his mind is still offensive, we are not doctors, harris, and every time a democrat talks about donald trump forgetting words, not being able to read from the teleprompter, making mistakes that anyone should not make in that position, republicans jump all over us and they say, wait a second coming you are not a doctor or therapist, so i think that we need to be very careful
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in this election cycle not to throw around words like senile about people that we are watching on a television screen, and i think for those of us who know joe biden blanket is a very tricky subject, because we all should be very careful. which people have been telling me for years when we talk about donald trump. so let's just be careful. because that accusation is a pretty strong one. >> brit: the word senile is not a medical diagnosis. it is -- he refers to people who are at a stage in life, signs of old age in terms of their memory and mental acuity. it's not someone has to be a doctor to notice, joe biden, to my extent i have, people our age do, and it's whether a man of his age who is starting in a way that people inevitably do late in life to lose it a bid to should be president of the united states. this does not require a team of psychologists and psychiatrists to come in and make a medical diagnosis.
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there is a reasonable layman's conclusion from the evidence that is very clear before us. >> harris: it is so important to have these kinds of discussions with each other, because this is what voters are talking about. if you think they are not, as brit and i were both talking about, they are responding to polling where they might not respond other things in polling, so i'm glad we got into it. okay, we will move on. a top republican senator is calling for a federal investigation into brutal assault of a truck driver. wow. every time you see this video, you prayer wasn't real. police now identify a suspect in that attack and are asking the public for their help to find him, and an eyewitness describes the scene. ♪ find your keys. find your get-up-and-go. find pants that aren't sweats. find your friends. find your sense of wander.
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>> melissa: violent protests in portland for 83 consecutive nights. what started as a peaceful presentation tuesday deteriorated after more than an hour, police declaring it a riot after protesters lit fires in dumpsters and shattered windows. some portland-based companies are reportedly looking to leave or sell their downtown office is because of the ongoing arrests. no doubt about that. and a manhunt underway for the suspect in a brutal weekend assault on a truck driver. police identifying the suspect as murky love, asking the public to help with their search. republican senator lindsey graham calling in the justice department to step in tweeting the group responsible are great candidates for federal prosecution for violation of the constitutional rights of the victim.
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brit, i don't know, maybe if it was a different time, if there was not so much violence going on around the country and so many different places, it seems like there will be more focused on just the brutality, the inhumanity, the savagery of this attack, there was never any question in terms of the video of who was involved, you know, you can see the faces of the people who attack to this poor person and beat him unconscious while he did not fight back. is there as much focus on this as it deserves, or have we all must become numb to the horrible brutality that seems to be popping up in our country? >> brit: we are not seeing so far in the polling a huge backlash against all of the violence, including the episode that you just described, people say that they do not approve of it, they do not like it. you cannot imagine a pollster
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ever saying they approve of such things. only a few marginal voices are ever suggesting that violent protests like this or writing or physical attacks are acceptable, but the question for us as we look ahead in the election, will this make a difference in the election? it is local law enforcement by and large, so people with the sentiments about the candidate and the political parties nationally, attesting to the use of events is unclear, but it is striking to me, we have barely seen anything like this since 1968 where we have seen at this widespread, and i think that there will be a big backlash. so far we have not seen it in the polling, but it remains to be seen. donald trump will try his best to associate himself with the law and order, democrats have been not approving of the
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violence, but strikingly hesitant to condemn it in a big way, and it will be interesting to watch these next few nights whether there is any mention ever even made about what is going on, because it is so noticeable around the country and how much coverage it is getting elsewhere. >> melissa: so, mollie, those are interesting points. i live in the middle of one of the cities that is seeing a huge uptick in violence and crime, and homelessness, and just a total deterioration of the quality of life, i was out on the streets with one of my sons this morning on the way that we conduct ourselves has dramatically changed, where i would let my kids walk places, now they can't. our lives have changed, not just in my local neighborhood, you can drive and drive and in greater new york it has really dramatically changed in the past year or two.
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everyone near me hates mayor de blasio whether they are republican or democrat, he has no support. but i don't know if it goes be on to that for any larger message. new york will probably vote democratic, they always do. is there national implications that we are seeing or is it a local issue? >> mollie: one of the big success stories has been the growth of american cities nationwide. the strong growth of american cities. brit mentioned the riots in the late '60s, that had horrible long-term effects on inner cities like washington, d.c. it took 40 years to really rebuild from the destruction of those riots. but as you see a decrease in population with a decrease in the tax base. he mentioned that portland, some businesses are going to be leaving and there was a story about all of the vacant apartments in new york city. a lot of people will be leaving cities and then you will have the increase in violence that
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could have an absolutely disastrous effect on cities nationwide. so i think that what people are shocked by is not that portland is rioting. my husband used to live there. antifa has controlled that city for a long time, they have even bragged about controlling that city. but they are not hearing denunciation. this is the democratic party base that is engaged in the protest. we are told that they are peaceful protests. largely peaceful protests. the media is covering up violence. 30 people have been killed in the protests in these mostly peaceful protests. the destruction, the arson, the destruction of the small businesses. a lot of people are not working in the city's right now, when they return and see what has happened to them they will be shocked and alarmed. we have not heard strong denunciation. in some cases we have even heard enabling of this by democratic party leaders suggesting they are righteous ways to push for social change. so there needs to be just relentless strong denunciation and's it is, this is not the
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right that is doing this. so there needs to be much more from the political leaders saying, this is not acceptable. and it is particularly bad, because people are being told that there is nothing they can do about it. it's not just the riots are happening, the police are told that they should stand down against them, the d.a.s are not prosecuting these things and we are told that there is no assistance to be had because i would be the worst thing ever. people are watching this happen and being told that there is nothing they can do. it is not a good situation. >> melissa: yes, marie, really quick, do you want to respond? >> marie: there are number of different people who have committed violence in these situations. and people arrested in places like portland are members of the far right groups, like the proud boys, like the white supremacist groups riling up on rest, but it is a localized issue which is why it is not resonating widely with voters. and like i keep saying, voters also don't see joe biden in any
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way supportive of this. if you do not think the democrats are speaking out about it, you're not listening. democratic leaders are screaming that this is not what people like john lewis would have wanted us to do. is that we are taking away the message of peaceful protesters. so believe me, joe biden has been forceful as have other democrats. and i think that's why it is a pretty local issue that is not -- >> harris: not as a big bully pulpit at the convention, i have not heard the screaming, i cover it every day as we all do. i'm listening for it. sorry. >> marie: it is there. >> harris: they are not even screaming now. >> melissa: they have not denounced the violence. >> marie: i'd announce it every day when we talk about it. >> melissa: we are talking about at the dnc. what harris is saying is that they have giant opportunity to say stop with the violence. so we will be listening for it. it's a great point. hillary clinton set to speak at the dnc, maybe she will say
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let's stop the violence. it is her first prime time address since losing to the president four years ago. whether she can move the needle and help joe biden win the election. we will see. ♪ rates have dropped even lower. use your va benefits now at newday and save $250 a month -- $3000 a year. the va streamline refi lets you shortcut the refinance process. there's no appraisal or income verification, and you don't have to spend a single dollar out of pocket. one call to newday can save you $3000 a year.
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>> embedded with those squads are fbi agents, dea agents, and atf agents, working literally shoulder to shoulder with them to crack these cases. >> harris: operation legend has expanded to nine cities across eight states with the most recent being indianapolis. the op is named after 4-year-old legend taliferro, shot and killed in kansas city, missouri, earlier this summer. a horrific crime. as this has spread across cities, his memory, of being in his bed when he was killed, is something that is driving authorities across the country to deal with the violent crimes that are popping. we sometimes say the name of the children caught up in all of that the summer. this is one of them. we move now to politics. hillary clinton returns to the center stage at tonight's democratic convention, four
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years after becoming the first woman to win the nomination of a major party. the live address expected to cement clinton's legacy as a champion of women in politics. it will come just before another history making moment when kamala harris becomes the first black woman to accept a spot on a major presidential ticket. while a report in "the hill" says clinton's speech were forward-looking looking, her allies say it will also have "we could have done this better" sentiment. with president trump figuring prominently in her remarks. a former clinton advisor says this. "she can speak not just to trump really is, skulking around on her debate stage, but how he is viewed across the globe. she can sound the alarm that the damage he has caused must be undone and undone now." brit hume, hillary clinton, or challenge tonight. those things on the list.
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>> brit: well, she still has a following within the democratic party. make no mistake about it. she is still deeply appreciated by many women, not all of them democrats, for the pioneering role she played in receiving her party's nomination, coming close to being president. at the same time, however, i think it's not unreasonable to say, if you're judging this in terms of how much outreach your speech might make to people not yet ready to vote for the democrats this time around, she may be the only person who is less popular than donald trump, which is not easily achieved. she did it. >> harris: [laughs] >> brit: she i is a divisive figure, but has her following and the party. there is no doubt having her speak, as the most recent presidential nominee, after all, yet all these other past president candidate speaking. i suspect donald trump will get a severe molding and that will be her role she is a candidate to rally the base against the man who unites
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the party more than anybody else. i don't think she is much of an outreach figure, however. >> harris: melissa, i want to come to you, because you and i have coverage for use together the role that hillary thinks he plays in the democratic party and the role she actually does. i want to get your thought. >> brit: are you talking to me? >> harris: no, melissa. 36 oh, sorry, melissa. >> melissa: it's okay, i'm senile brit said a lot of interesting things about her role. she does kind of come out as the perfect one to really attack president trump. he has taken a lot of attacks through the dnc convention so far. i imagine that will continue, although what was magical about joe biden's speech last night was that she didn't mention him. i don't know, you could reason that he is the unifying factor within the party, donald trump, but you could also say you do kind of need a reason to vote.
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something hopeful, something positive. i don't know, i think she brings back a lot of bitter and angry feelings among democrats. i know they couldn't get around putting her out there, but i don't think it's a smart move. >> harris: marie, what should the litmus b for putting people up at this point? you do have a lot of young energy in the party. again, i agree with you, i like the way it opened with the people all over the place. we do a talk show every day, so boxes with interesting people? that is, like, my jam. when you talk about including hillary clinton and bill clinton last night, i'm just wondering how much of the past really furthers the cause right now. what is the goal? >> marie: well, hillary clinton does still have a following within the party. brit is right about that. i think she will speak to that tonight. she will also prosecute the case. basically, "i told you so, i told you all of this would
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happen, and now it's all happened." i take an issue with some of the things that have been said today. people keep saying you need a reason to vote for someone. i think that is often true, but a lot of people who voted for donald trump in 2016 were anti-hillary clinton votes. they didn't love donald trump, they didn't live everything he said or did, but they really didn't like hillary clinton. i do think that there is a group of voters who are gettable for joe biden he may not love joe biden but who really don't like donald trump. that is a segment of voters that someone like hillary clinton can speak to. >> harris: i think it is fair what you point out. it's almost a trend now, people convincing others to vote against something. the problem with that, where is the impetus to actually have good policy and good ideas, if all you have to do is make people hate the other side? that seems intellectually lazy to me. anyway, we'll move on. the postmaster general is backing off some changes to the postal service after outcry from lawmakers on both sides of the
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only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> [inaudible] nonetheless, we are happy to accept what he said, and that's exactly what we have in our bill. we should not have any problem with our legislation. >> melissa: that was speaker nancy pelosi after the head of the u.s. postal service said he is suspending some operational changes ahead of the 2020 election. nothing is going to move or change. postmaster general louis dejoy saying in a statement yesterday that he is putting those initiatives to "avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail." president trump weighing in during his stop in arizona last
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night. >> the post office is running as well as it has a long time. i don't want to fire anybody in the postal service. >> melissa: no one has cared about the finances of the post office, mollie, forever. i'm a money person, i've been trying to get people focused on it, no one cares. all of the sword and they sort of do. is this a real issue? what do you think? >> mollie: no, it's not the real issue. it's absolutely insane and a delusional conspiracy theory based on some people on twitter showing pictures of mailboxes being moved around, we do something that has happened thousands of times a year for decades. i'm hoping this move by the postmaster general to say, "okay, just to avoid the appearance of anything, we will not work on all of these cost-saving a deficiency measure until after the election," i'm hoping that'll put an end to it, but it was never based in reality to begin with. i think it's just to set the
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stage to claim that, if donald trump wins, that the election was stolen some of your problems with mail-in balloting. but he's been very transparent, he is coming to talk to congress, so hopefully wiser minds will prevail. >> melissa: brit, they are coming back and having these hearings, and the president is tweeting, "republicans, why are you letting them do that ahead of our convention and during our convention rather than this week?" on the flip side, if you're going to counter program the president, doing it with the post office may be the most boring way democrats could possibly do it. maybe he's doing them a favor. your thoughts? >> marie: well, there's a reason they call this time of year every four years "the silly season." this is one of the silliest controversies i've ever seen. it is, as molly said, based really on nothing. what does the post met what is the postmaster general doing to quell this con?
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he is halting reform seriously needed to put the post office on a much sounder financial footing. the post office is hemorrhaging money and has been for a long time. over time, that's a big piece of it. one of the major reforms he is s done is preorder things in such a way that there's not so much over time. want the poster you want the postmaster general to do these things, yet he wants all of them based on the political controversy based on nothing. this is just ridiculous. >> melissa: marie, do you want to respond to that really quickly? if you want, vote by mail absentee. you can download your application today. you'll get your ballot before the election. you can hang onto it until you're ready to vote. you can mail it in. what's the controversy? >> harris: absentee has never been the issue. sorry, marie perry go ahead. >> marie: it's okay. we have seen male slowing down. reports from across the country of mail slowing down right now
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for a number of reasons. i think we democrats have said is it is not that the post office can't handle what will be a huge influx of mail-in ballots at absentee ballots this year. it's that we need it to be able to be done in a timely and efficient manner. democrats and republicans in congress have already agreed to provide more funding to the post office, so hopefully congress can pass something that helps them improve their efficiency so they can deal with what will be an unprecedented situation this november 4th election. but we need to make sure they can handle it, because we want to know the results as soon as possible. >> melissa: yeah, and it is the pension and health care that is actually weighing down their balance sheet. there is no plan to do anything about that, so we'll see. joe biden giving a personal speech about her husband, joe biden, during last night's dnc. did the former second lady or the possible future second lady -- no, former second lady. exactly, forgive me. make the case to become first lady? that's next.
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your family what he did for hours. bring us together and make us hole. >> harris: jill biden speaking from the school where she once taught during her dnc speech last night, where she appealed to voters to support her husband, joe biden, for president. the former second lady recalled some of the family struggles in that speech, and the couple later were seen hugging, as joe biden learns he gave enough delegates to secure the nomination. brit hume, i come to you. again, big moments this week. really, for both parties. we see the rebuttal on some nights, as well. >> i thought last night speech by jill biden, as i suggested earlier, was the high point of the convention. a high point, possibly even the high point to date. those last words we heard her say about bringing the country together, we are so badly
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divided as a nation, it's a little hard to believe in these poisonous times that anyone could bring us together. in all the polling we've seen, it indicates that everybody would like to see, or nearly everybody would. she did about as well as i think she could to persuade people that this very nice and decent man is the man to unite the country and to help heal all these wounds. whether he can do that is another matter. he has got his strength, he's got significant weaknesses. in terms of promoting him as a unifying figure, i think she did about as well as could be done. >> harris: mollie? >> mollie: i actually agree with something marie said earlier about dislike of something being a strong motivator in elections. i think, though, it's not sufficient. the republican party is certainly pointing out the absolute craziness and insanity of the left as a motivator to get people to vote not just for donald trump, but other candidates. but they are also giving much
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more to voters. ideas about different ways of doing policies and what not. that's where i think jill biden did a good job. it wasn't just focusing on the one thing that unifies the democratic party, this visceral loathing and hatred of donald trump. but also saying, "here's the affirmative case for why you should vote for the sky." they need to do a bit more of that tonight. >> harris: marie, quick thoughts? >> marie: yeah, i just think, harris, we cannot overstate right now how much people want normalcy in this country. joe biden and jill biden seem like a couple that is happy. she talked about how he had brought their family back together after tragedy, and that idea -- >> harris: she made it personal. >> marie: that idea is so powerful in this country right now, going through this pandemic in this economic crisis. that's a powerful idea. >> harris: more "outnumbered" in a moment. nloans.ans with va record low mortgage rates have just dropped to new all time lows. veterans can refinance their loans with
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>> melissa: thank you to everyone here on our virtual couch today, and thank you for watching at home on your real couch or any other chair you might have. we'll see you at noon eastern tomorrow. now, here's harris. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert as we await the white house press briefing. a large night on tapped for democrats at their virtual convention as we face night three. "outnumbered overtime" now. i'm harris faulkner. tonight's headline, as we now know, includes hillary clinton and her first major speech in through 2016 loss to president trump. former president barack obama on the bill, and a huge spotlight senator kamala harris when she gives her vp acceptance speech. once again, plenty of attacks on president trump from last night's speakers, including former president bill clinton. >> at a time like this, the oval office should be a command center. instead, it's a storm center. it
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