allowed this to happen. no president has had to go through this. with the supreme court did do is say, if it's a fishing expedition, my interpretation is essential you don't have to do . we will probably end up back in the supreme court. this is just a continuation of the most hideous witch hunt in the history of our country. we beat mueller, we wanted every level in washington, in d.c., we wanted every level. now what they do is send into new york. we want an all democrat state, all democrats, and descended into new york. this should never be allowed to happen to another president. this is a continuation of the most disgusting witch hunt in the history of our country. all it is. the supreme court said fishing expedition. this is the ultimate fishing expedition. nobody has anything. we don't do things wrong. but they will say, "let's go and

inspect every deal he's ever done. let's get papers from ten years, every paper, every deal he's ever signed. maybe we can find where some lawyer made a mistake, where they didn't dot an i or put a comma down someplace. this is a disgrace and it should never be allowed to happen again. thank you very much very much. >> reporter: at the russian opposition leader who was hospitalized, is that -- >> president trump: we haven't seen it yet. mike will be reporting to me soon. thank you very much, everyone. >> melissa: you are watching president trump right now, meeting in the oval office with the prime minister of iraq. the point on that that he was trying to make is that this is promises made, promises kept. he talked about leaving a lot of those foreign wars, iraq being one of them, saying that they are very happy with the relationship today, the

president is, between the united states and iraq. that the united states is leaving, and hopefully leaving a country that can defend itself. talking about very big oil deals going on there for the united states, in terms of that iraqi oil, making sure that there is something to be shown for it here in the united states. really, the opposite of other presidents who have argued that it was not a war that was about oil. the president emphasizing that we went there to spill blood and treasure, that he wanted to see benefit from that. very different. also the situation in turkey and syria and reminding his supporters that was another promise he kept. he did that even though he received so much criticism at the time. saying that, at this point, he feels that as a success. of course, he was pressed by reporters in the room about one of the top stories this morning, which is his former advisor, steve bannon, being arrested in

connection with fraud on the fund-raising scheme, an alleged fund-raising scheme, around raising money for the wall. private funds. allegedly this scheme, when they raise the money, they said it would all go for the wall and it would go into no one's private pockets. the allegations in the charges are that steve bannon personally made about a million dollars from this. again, these are all the charges that have come out today. reporters are asking the president to react. he says he feels very bad for steve bannon but he is somebody he hasn't been dealing with for a long time, emphasizing he had a long career elsewhere. that he worked for goldman sachs and he also worked for a lot of other politicians. going on to say that he never liked that project, that he was very vocal about this idea of raising private money from private people to build the wall was not the way that he thought it should be done. he said that, from the beginning, he made his opinion known that this is a government sing. then he went on to say he didn't want to be associated with it,

but he has seen the videos of the wall they were building falling over, and that he doesn't want a wall that is weak like that and he doesn't want it to be confused with the one he's building. he said he thought he was against it for those reasons. he also thought maybe they were doing it for showboating reaso reasons. he said maybe the people organizing this were looking for fun, but he didn't know any of the people working on it except for, of course, steve bannon. but he said it was inappropriate for them to be doing it and talking about that they were building an inferior wall. this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. here today is harris faulkner. senior editor of "the federalist" and fox news contributor, mollie hemingway. host of "kennedy" on the fox business network, kennedy herself. joining us today, fox political analyst and cohost of "the five," juan williams. let me ask my partner, harris faulkner, first. what did i miss there? what did you hear that i didn't mention? >> harris: i think you hit all

the points. i can only imagine for the iraq prime minister that the litany of questions on steve bannon was certainly not someplace anybody could have imagined him having to sit through. but there they were. you talked about the president saying he felt badly. "i haven't been dealing with him," meaning steve bannon, "for very long. lack of time." but i thought it was interesting when the president said they were having construction problems, didn't want to be associated with that, and that the project really was done for showboating reasons. it was something i very much thought was inappropriate to be doing." no, melissa, i think you skipped it all up. the context, however, politically, that is what i'm curious to talk to the panel about. that the political nature of this is that it's the last night of the convention, you've got yet another advisor, former advisor of the president of the united states, that is being looked at legally, arrested on a book by u.s. agents

investigating this. this is not a good look. you see the president distancing himself. you see a prime minister who has come very far away from iraq sitting there for all of this, because it became news during that bilateral. >> melissa: yeah. let's turn to our panel. juan, it is interesting, you almost expect -- when this happens, generally, the president tends to talk about someone getting persecuted because they were associated with him. he did quite the opposite here. i mean, he doesn't generally -- harris is absolutely correct, he very much distanced himself from steve bannon. that's not the way he normally deals with the sorts of things. what do you make of that? >> juan: well, he said he felt badly for mr. bannon prayed that he knew him. that bannon had worked at goldman sachs, went over that history briefly. what's clear here is what harris emphasized, that the president made it clear that, not only had he not worked with bannon for a long time, but he noticed that he thought it was inappropriate

for them to be involved in private fund-raising. again, picking up on something that you and harris were discussing, melissa, i think the political fallout is immediate. chris coons, the delaware senator, said, "how many of the president's top aides have been indicted?" you think about it. stone, manafort, flynn, cohen, and now bannon. that's five right there. the whole notion of "drain the swamp," it sounds like a swamp. elizabeth warren, the former democratic presidential candidate, who of course was senator from massachusetts, said the wall has always been one big con job, and here we have people now putting their hand in the pot and trying to rip off people. the idea that he, by the way, was arrested on a yacht off the shore of connecticut, that's also a pretty bad look. >> melissa: yeah. mollie, what are your thoughts

on that? is the wall it self the part the government has built, is that a sham? >> mollie: it speaks to the importance of actually caring about border security and actually getting something done instead of talking about it. congress has really dropped the ball on this and there are a lot of americans who care about having a country with actual boaters, understanding who is coming into the country and making sure it's done properly. as far as going after scams, isf this is the first indictment of thousands where the southern district of new york actually cares about scam packs, and next they go after groups that scan money like lincoln project-type groups, which is a never trumper democratic pac that makes people very wealthy when they run against donald trump, that's fine. i'm not sure if they'll keep going after all the people who raise money this way. i'm not sure if the case is as strong as they would like it to

be. you want it to be that this is about the rule of law, not about persecuting political enemies. juan listed a group of people that have been gone after by the federal government, including michael flynn, who, as we know, was targeted by the fbi completely and properly. they try to get him out of his job because he disagreed with his foreign policy. speaking of foreign policy, that's today's press briefing here. they said they would get out of these never-ending wars in iraq and afghanistan, haven't done it yet, but he does seem to be still working toward that goal. i think it speaks how donald trump, one of his best successes, as he is amazing on foreign policy compared to so many other people in washington, d.c. a lot of americans have said they are more than happy to do things aggressively in terms of war, but they don't want them to drag on for 15, 20 years, where people don't have clear ideas of why we are there what we hope to get out of it, or how we hope to exit.

it's very important that, in washington, d.c., there is this ease with which they perpetuate these wars were enter into them. maybe one of the biggest successes is, unlike so many of his predecessors, donald trump is the first person to not get us involved in yet another intractable war. >> melissa: you know, kennedy, it is so interesting. one of the big points that was made last night, when they sort of brought back from the dead the whole ruling class that has ruled washington for so many years and got us into those wars, the allegation that president trump is a joke on the national stage, that he is just -- it's a constant blooper reel, and this morning he kind of answers back with, "here's the places we left. if you think that's funny, we didn't want to be in those locations any longer. we did what we did. we are out." but i want to turn you over to more news today. of course, regarding the president's tax returns, that a federal judge shut down the president's bid to keep his tax

records private, from the manhattan district attorney, saying that the subpoena was rejected it would make the executive branch immune from the judicial process. this fight in newark continues to get the president 's tax returns, as well. you put these things together, do they move the needle, do you think? >> kennedy: i don't think they move the needle for anyone who loves the president, people who tolerate the president, or people who despise the president, which is also why i think it's very strange that the president keeps fighting less. i want to see what is in any president's tax returns. i know that may be an unpopular statement for people supportive of the president, and maybe he has nothing to hide. so just stop dragging this out. it is a huge distraction, and every time the president has one of these distractions, it takes

away from anything that he could consider a victory. in terms of steve bannon, this is the most unsurprising news. i've said it before, the president is really bad at picking certain people. he's just god-awful at it. i don't lump michael flynn in steve bannon in the same category. i do think michael flynn was railroaded in the same way carter page was, but i think the president gravitating toward people like steve bannon and roger stone and paul manafort, it shows a little bit of intuitive weakness on his part. if he does, in fact, win a second term, i hope that's one of the things he works on. he really seems to be an introspective person, so i have great faith in that. but this whole band the news is totally unsurprising. what i would say, i know people who want the wall to be built are incredibly passionate. they want something done. they feel like they were so much

gridlock in washington that the country will never be safe. i truly understand that sentiment. when you are giving money, really, that the recipient. just do a bit of basic research, unless you want to buy steve bannon another yacht. >> melissa: that never made any sense to me. when i saw that campaign, i thought to myself, "how exactly is that going to work? you can't comingled private and public funds. you can't go build a wall on the border by yourself. what is this?" and never made sense to me as a legitimate charity. i didn't know steve bannon was involved, certainly, but, like the president said, it just seemed like a crazy project. we will put a button on that and come back with more and a second. former vice president joe biden is hours away, of course, from accepting the democratic presidential nomination. this, as his former boss, president obama, delivered sharp criticism of president trump last night. how the president answered back in real time.

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>> harris: fox news alert, we are now just hours away from joe biden taking the stage for the most pivotal moment in his career, when the former vice president formally accepts the democratic nomination for president. this, amid fallout after former president barack obama last night delivered the sharpest criticism yet by a former president of his successor in modern history. watch. >> for close to four years now, he has shown no interest in putting in the work. no interest in finding common ground. no interest in using the awesome power of his office to help anyone but himself and his friends.

no interest in treating the presidency as anything but one more reality show that he can use to get the attention he craves. donald trump hasn't grown into the job, because he can't. and the consequences of that failure are severe. >> harris: well, the president firing back in real time. "why did he refuse to endorse slow joe until it was all over, and even then was very late? why did he try to get him not to run?" and white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany today also hit the former president. >> what we saw for president obama was nothing short of appalling. president obama failed this country. the slowest economic recovery since world war ii, which president trump reversed. he talked about saving democracy, except president obama and vice president biden subverted democracy, refusing to accept the results of the election,

spying on the trump campaign. >> harris: so, juan, not only was the president watching in real time, he was tweeting at the screen as it was happening. almost having a simultaneous rebuttal. does that work, politically? >> juan: i think it comes across as heckling. i'm not sure that it was substantive. it wasn't that he was responding to the charges that he wasn't up to the job, which is really what president obama was charging, that he never took an interest in the job and never took an interest in protecting the american people in terms of the coronavirus. but i think the heart of it was, to see obama in that setting at the constitution center in pennsylvania, my take away, harris, is that he was there to send a message. his very presence. as he said, are democracy is being threatened, that suggests the idea that you should become cynical, that your vote doesn't

matter, that the post office can be undermined, and all the rest, that's all about taking away your power. the power of democracy. to me, that was the heart of president obama's message last night. >> harris: you know, it's interesting, kennedy. if you want to talk about symbolism and democracy, the president saying he is going to make his acceptance speech next week from the white house. that is the seat of our democracy. you have some going back and forth. the difference is barack obama is the ex-president and not running. >> kennedy: actually like the george w. bush model of x presidency. i like a president who sits back, maybe do some oil paintings in the shed. i think there is something to that. the problem with this, it's not that president obama stood up and made his case against the president. he wasn't really making his strongest case for joe biden. he would have done that for his actions. when he did last night was set

precedent, so now, if joe biden wins, and right now he is ahead in some key states, and in a lot of polls, although the race is tightening a little bit, if he becomes president, why would president trump exercise any restraint in criticizing him? essentially that is what president obama did last night. he gave president trump license to blast any successor, and all he had to do was look back at that speech and say, "he did it, i'm fine with it." we have to have protocols that we all follow, and rules that both sides adhere to. so, nanny, nanny, nanny goats. >> harris: we are so far out, though. 75 days. as kennedy was talking, there's not been anything conventional about any part of the last three plus years. almost four years now. i don't know that they will be any exception to that rule. i wouldn't be surprised if

everything just gets broken in terms of protocol going forward. the american people will decide whether or not they are okay with that. >> there have been a lot of changes to what we are told our norms. some of those norms actually needed to go away or were being used to limit people's expression of themselves and what not. i thought this was an interesting speech last night. barack obama's most important legacy, of course, is the election of donald trump. i think he understands that and understands how much donald trump has been able to do to undo barack obama's legacy in just four years. i think he feels extreme and threatened that, if president trump got another four years, that would really cement those gains that have really undone so much of what the obama administration did. the people voted for trump in part because they weren't very pleased with the obama administration, with what they did to the economy, with what they were doing in foreign policy. this idea that, by electing joe biden, you continue the obama presidency, it's not as favorable as a campaign pitch as

you might hope for if you were a democrat. the other thing is that barack obama, he really was uniquely situated last night to be the key democratic figure two finally, at long last, condemn these violent riots happening in cities across the country. he would have been someone that, i think, people would have really listen to. he would be able to speak to the concerns of peaceful protesters while condemning the violence and arson in the murder and all those horrible things happening to cities that are causing people to flee the cities. not only did he not do that, he should have done it. he started talking about the constitution and about the goodness of our country. then he all but endorsed the violence. he did not, in any way, speak against it. i think that was a real missed opportunity. even if joe biden does it tonight, which i don't think he shows any signs of doing. i don't think it would have the same effect as if barack obama had done it. people say he's as great politician, but he didn't even have the courage of someone like bill clinton, who did that when he was running for president.

>> harris: meanwhile, senator kamala harris also taking aim at president trump, as she reintroduced herself to voters last night while accepting her historic democratic vice presidential nomination. kamala harris. watch. >> right now we have a president who turns our tragedies into political weapons. joe will be a president who turns our challenges into purpose. joe will bring us together, to build an economy that doesn't leave anyone behind. >> harris: melissa, i come to you. a historic moment, and then, also, how would you categorize it? positive, not? >> melissa: all i could think when i was watching her speak was how i had heard her say pretty much the opposite of everything she was saying right they're not so long ago.

whether it's her saying what a great guy joe biden's, and how forward-looking he is, you think of her saying, "i was that little girl that you didn't want to put on the bus," and all those attacks. i understand that the nature presidential politics, and that's how things go, it just makes it that, when she says something, there's an inauthenticity about kamala harris that is astounding. i think it's the reason that she, on paper, looked like she was going to be a fantastic candidate for presidency, and so many people were excited about her in the political elite ruling class. but when she went out there to actually meet a real human beings, she wasn't able to gin up more than three or 4% support in any group. i think she very much lacks authenticity. you go back and you look at the old videos of her, when she was in law enforcement, when she was a prosecutor, when she was in

california, and she was saying exactly the opposite of the things she is saying now. you just think to yourself, "were you lying then, are you lying now, or do you just not believe anything? he would say anything now to be elected?" and i think that's the sense regular people get from her. >> harris: juan? >> juan: i couldn't disagree more strongly. i mean, the proof is in the money, here. after kamala harris was selected, the democrats, the biden campaign raised $48 million in 48 hours. that's how excited democrats are about kamala harris. the idea that, as you noted, harris, it's a historic moment. a woman of color selected for the presidential ticket. it is really something to hear her talk about her family. racially mixed. she is married to a jewish man, her mother is indian, her father

jamaican. it's a great american story. it is something that is just kind of inspiring. when she spoke last night and talked about family, she did it in the context of the democrats making that evening really a ladies' night. he think about who appeared, nancy pelosi, gabby giffords talking about the gun violence issue, elizabeth warren. i mean, it really was, to me, and extreme effort to say, "women of america, we can come together and we can be ambitious, like kamala harris." if that's the heart and soul of what melissa was saying, it's true. she's an ambitious woman. there's nothing wrong with being ambitious and being a woman and saying that your mother taught you to be strong, and stand up for yourself. >> kennedy: [laughs] you're telling all of us that, juan! >> juan: because i love you guys, and i just think, when you

hear people say things about women politicians, "i don't like her voice, she is shrill, she's really nasty." >> did i say any of that? >> juan: no, but you said she is inauthentic and she flip flops. >> melissa: she is an authentic. >> juan: i don't think so at all. that's what i'm speaking to, melissa. i think she was in a political campaign, she laid down who she was, that she has a background in law enforcement, he clearly didn't sit with a lot of the activist base in the democratic party, but she is now in line and she has made it very clear who she has. that she's a proud black woman who is in touch with the racial tensions in this country. >> harris: all right, we've got to scoot. criticisms of -- >> melissa: i resent that. >> harris: joe biden will accept the democratic party nomination tonight. what he needs to say to fire up voters and how president trump plans to counter joe biden's big

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>> melissa: tonight joe biden will formally accept the democratic nomination for president on the final night of the dnc and delivery of the biggest speech of his decades-long political career. it was more than 12,000 days ago that biden launched his first presidential campaign, way back in 1987, at the amtrak station in wilmington, delaware, which was named after him much later in 2011. while biden gears up for his big moment tonight, president trump is preparing to speak near biden's birthplace in scranton, pennsylvania. fox news has's told president trumbull accused biden of spending the last spokesperson told ap, "joe biden is hiding and taking voters for granted, but the trump campaign

what makes a mistake. his agenda will kill jobs and hurt families in the keystone state, which is exactly why he won't confront voters in his hometown." mollie, let me start with you. you know, observers have said, over the course of the dnc, over the past couple days, that there is a very stark contrast that is being set up between the ruling class, the political elite. they are bringing back politicians that have been on the scene for decades and decades and decades and decades. you bring up the clintons, the obama's, biden himself. you bring out john kerry, the kennedys, all these folks that kind of have represented politics for decades. i wonder, is that appealing to people, so many on the democratic side of said people who want to go back to what they see as normal. that they feel this time with

president trump trying something different has been chaotic and unpleasant, and they want to go back. president trump using his speech to say, "look, we tried that for decades and decades, and people weren't happy with this. that's how i got into office." which argument do you think works, or have people decided how they feel about it? what are your thoughts? >> mollie: the democratic convention definitely has been trying to paper over the civil war that is happening within that party. they have a lot of these politicians that go back many decades who present more moderately than their current young base does. the young base is rioting in cities across the country right now. they have been really not talking much at all about policy. they are very into identity politics, as juan was pointing out. identity being the most important thing for a lot of these politicians as opposed to what they would actually do. by not talking about policy, that leaves this field open where most of what people see is, and democratic cities, and

democratic states, where the cities are controlled by democratic mayors and democratic d.a.s, you have people committing wanton violence with nothing being done against it. if that's what they are going to do, if joe biden gets in, the big problem with joe biden is he is viewed as a trojan horse for this younger base that is so radical and so extreme, and believes the country is irredeemably evil and racist. even if you have these nice older people talking throughout the convention, it is papering over what everybody can see with their own eyes happening across the country. >> melissa: you know, kennedy, especially in areas like pennsylvania, joe biden had always made the argument that he was economically the champion of the working class. that he was the champion of the person that was in the mine, that person that worked in the factory. it might be difficult to make that argument rooted in fact against the president who has

actually brought back so many manufacturing jobs, and now you look at joe biden, who has somebody on his ticket who is for outlawing fracking, which is huge in places like pennsylvania. can he make the economic argument, joe biden? >> kennedy: no, because, essentially, his policies are going to rob from future generations. what he is setting up his generational warfare for anyone who is actually paying attention to this. it's an incredible disservice, because one thing they are not talking about -- obviously the limited government, i would like to hear from any democrat how they are going to rein in spending. he's not always talking about that. sure, the talk about raising your taxes, which crushes the economy on one hand, but the other hand, this is when he gets regulation. when you increase spending. he's got a $7 trillion plan across the board. they are talking about $3 trillion stimulus packages. it actually makes bernie sanders

insane $3 trillion medicare for all, "maybe that's feasible." it's not. it's all completely unfeasible, and the two-party system is what james madison and alexander hamilton warned against, calling it "the fatal disease." that is the biggest problem we are seeing here. those factions do lead to violence. democrats are not addressing that violence, as mollie pointed out. >> melissa: protesters in portland smashing windows and setting fires at a federal i.c.e. building last night. this, as a victim of a salty speaking out. how he is now describing a city he says he no longer recognizes. ♪ use your vnewdayfits now at and save $250 a month -- $3000 a year. the va streamline refi lets you shortcut the refinance process. there's no appraisal or income verification,

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>> harris: portland, oregon. wow. another riot declared. it's day 84 of unrest there, as it was happening. protesters descended on the

federal immigrations and customs enforcement building. they smashed out windows, set fires. they threw softball-sized rocks, bottles, and even a hammer at police who responded with tear gas. portland police continued their search for the suspect in sunday's vicious attack on a man who crashed his truck after he says he tried to stop a robbery, and we are now hearing from his alleged victim who describes a city that has seen a radical change. >> i don't know what they were down there for, but it didn't seem like they were trying to make anything good. they were just trying to make our city horrible. getting a drink at 7-eleven in portland, oregon, is a different story than it was two months a ago. >> harris: oh, my goodness. god bless him. look at his face. he also says the group that attacked him was not racial justice activists, but rather street fighters looking for trouble.

kennedy, you know portland, oregon, well, although all you have to do is be an american to look at that scene and no it doesn't look like our country. >> kennedy: no, and that is sometimes what my makeup looks like when i do it myself. i miss our beauty teams. [laughter] but it is an ugly scene in portland and it's only getting worse, and it is so important that you differentiate who is committing these acts. these are not the brave social justice warriors that kamala harris is talking about. these are people who are seeking a totalitarian shift in views and government structure by force, and they are willing to do whatever it takes, and that means violence and death, to make people fall in lockstep with what they think, feel, and believe. that is incredibly wrong, and

that is totally counterproductive in terms of fostering liberty. it is the death of liberty. liberty is a burning mattress in portland. if the domino theory holds, the west coast is hosed. >> harris: wow. mollie? >> mollie: well, it is very sad to see what's happening in portland. i do think it is important that democrats speak out about this, because it is they are based committing these acts of violence. kamala harris, two years ago, and congressional testimony, compared i.c.e. agents to the kkk. there was this assault on the i.c.e. building last year. it means so much to hear loud condemnations of this violence with democrats. they are perfectly situated to triangulate this issue, that they condemn these acts of violence, while supporting other aims from people. but a lot of times, these crowds, with or they are individuals particularly committing the violence, or providing cover for those who

do, it's really out of control. >> harris: juan, real quickly, we have had a talk about whether or not this would come up during the convention. we have looked a couple nights, it has not, per se. look at what happening in some streets in america. her of the democrats ideas. real quickly, why not? >> juan: they have lots of ideas. i don't think it's the issue. >> harris: this is the biggest puppet they have. it's huge right now. why not address these things now? and maybe joe biden will. >> juan: give me a chance, here. i just think that any american would condemn that kind of violence. as you heard from the man who spoke, this wasn't the racial justice protesters. these were some angry -- i guess they are anarchists or something. i don't know what they are. but they don't represent the

base of the democratic party. that is not the case at all. i think, when you look at it, i don't think republicans would embrace violence coming from the white supremacists or proud boys of the qanon people. absolutely, the democrats don't embrace this. why should they be held responsible? it's not their base. >> harris: they are democrat-led cities. i just thought they might acknowledge it. okay, we move on. regrets? hmm, she has a few. hillary clinton warned this can't be another "would a coda shadow" election ♪ ♪

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>> for four years, people have told me, "i didn't realize how dangerous he was. i wish i could do it all over." or, worst, "i should have voted." look, this can be another woulda, coulda, shoulda election. joe and kemal can win by some votes and still lose. take it for me. speak to hillary clinton exposing a lot of regret in her convention address last night. she's the first woman to receive the nomination of a major party,

also taking swings of the president, saying she wishes he was up to the job of the oval office and urging voters to prevent president trump from "stealing his way to a second term." she said the day after the election, the morning after, that she had an open mind about president trump. that she was open to it. at that point, i fell off the couch. i wonder, to me, that sounded inauthentic. although juan will say i'm saying that because she's a strong woman, but i'm saying she seems inauthentic because -- >> juan: [laughs] >> melissa: i don't believe any human could have an open mind the day after they lost the election. i would be like, "that guy stinks, i hate him." that would be my honest reaction. with the response to the speech last night? do you think she had an open mind the day after the election? >> kennedy: no, she's got a

single mind. it's sad, because it is so graceless, this graceless bitterness that she has embraced, and all she does every day is think up new people and new reasons to blame for her loss. but she never looks at herself, she never looks at her own campaign. the part where it actually made a difference, she didn't make a commitment, and she is the most backward-looking democrat, and i'm surprised they trotted her out. i am delighted, because i think it is so entertaining that this woman is stuck on the loop and won't let her party go, although they have clearly moved forward without her. unlike michelle obama, at least she mentioned kamala harris. >> melissa: [laughs] there you go. juan, one clever thing democrats have done through his whole convention as they've emphasized the fact that what is essential is getting out the vote.

i do believe in my heart there aren't a lot of people out there that are under cited one way or the other. the only thing they are undecided about is how motivated they are. sadly, because i think we should all go vote. as we know, a lot of people don't. i think democrats have done a great job of saying what really counts is that you get out there and actually vote. has not been one of the strengths in the messaging? >> juan: without a doubt. you are that last night from kamala harris who said you should literally make a plan, almost like an emergency evacuation plan, what you're going to do, how you're going to have your vote cast, and even for your relatives to do so. i think that was a message from mrs. clinton. i think republicans would like to have her back as the opponent, because they can beat her up pretty quick, but they can't do it with biden. mrs. clinton said last night, don't let the president steal this election. we need a massive voter turnout. >> melissa: there you go.

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>> melissa: thank you to everyone here on our virtual couch today, and thank you at home for watching from your real couch or your office. we will be back here at noon eastern tomorrow. now, here's harris. ♪ >> harris: president trump ready with a response after some of the biggest names in the democratic party tore into him during night three of their convention, including a traditionally rare political attack from a former president on a sitting president. this is "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. the president was life treating barack obama's scathing speech, questioning the former president support for joe biden. why did he refuse to endorse low joe until it was all over, and even then was very late? why did he try to get him not to run?" other democrats