so thank you, steven pete. we love you. and the mcdonald's has been awesome. here you go, dave, stage manager, you get one. will. you know what tennessee is, right? the volunteer state. we love you america. we'll see you tomorrow. >> neil: >> it is a saturday in august and the house is in session, soon to vote on the measure to shore up support for the united states postal service, it's a $25 billion measure at that and it also goes back retroactively to where the monies were at the beginning of the year, before there were efforts by the postmaster general to introduce a lot of new things like new equipment, take out some old equipment, deal with the limited budget, all of that. but nancy pelosi called the troops back in to vote on a measure that by and large has

made some of this a moot point. the postmaster general reversed a lot of things that were a source of contention anyway. welcome, happy weekend to you. i'm neil cavuto. we have a jam packed show for you. living true, all this stuff seems to happen on weekends, on a saturday morning in the dog days of august when congress should technically be off and getting ready maybe for the fall campaign. not expected to come back until well after labor day. now this. what happens from here and what does the vote mean today and what about the hearing with the postmaster general slated for monday? let's just say these are heated political times. let's get to it what we can expect today. chad pergram on capitol hill. >> reporter: this is rare to have the house of representatives in session on a saturday morning, certainly in august. the last time they did this of any consequence had legislation on the house or floor of the senate when they recalled

members was probably in august of 2006 in the middle of hurricane katrina. this bill is about the postal service, $25 billion. democrats say this is an emergency. here's jim mcgovern, the chair of the house rules committee. >> this is a five alarm fire for our democracy. we need the boxes back, we need sorting machines back. it's clear that none of this will happen unless congress passes the bill. that's why it's urgent we act immediately. >> reporter: president trump threatened to veto the bill last night. the white house called it an overreaction to media reports and added today's vote was political theater. tom cole of oklahoma says democrats are going too far. >> mr. trump's own pentagon urged him to strike iran, he thought about it, didn't do it. we had saudi arabia attack an

ally on the united states by the iranians, that would have been an excuse to attack, he said no. >> reporter: that's not the right sound bite. he was saying the postal service might not need this money according to louis dejoy, the postmaster general. he testified yesterday before the senate panel that the post office would be fine through the election. listen. >> now, i do not need anything to deliver the mail on election night. this organization continues to perform. it's why we have such high ratings. our revenues were down. other organizations would have stopped going. >> reporter: the postal service, they say they're fine through the election. this bill will pass in the house of representatives today. it's going to be a bipartisan t vote, 12 to 15 republicans are going to support this. this bill is not going to the united states senate. what you're going to hear from some democrats and a lot of republicans is a push for coronavirus aid. this bill is specific to the

postal service and republicans say why aren't they working on coronavirus. more than half of nancy pelosi's house democratic caucus are calling for them to add that to this bill today. that's just not going to be the case, neil. they're not going to add that to this particular bill today. back to you. neil: just to confirm, button this up, dejoy, the pos master general is -- postmaster general is still slated to speak on monday. >> he will be there in person. he testified virtually on friday. he'll be there in person on monday morning, 10:00. neil: thank you, my friend. working around the clock. that's the way you are. chad pergram on capitol hill. congressman jim jordan joins us from the beautiful state of ohio, on the house judiciary committee, good to have you. >> good to be with you. neil: what did you make of what the postmaster general was saying on the whole mail-in ballot issue? because essays i think the american -- because he says i think the american public should

be able to vote by mail, well advance processes and procedures that will advance any election mail, in some cases ahead of first class mail. do you think adequately addresses the concerns some democrats had, many in your own party, that he was sent there by the president to make that next to impossible. >> the real concern is when you go with live ballots sent out to everyone as some states are doing that haven't done this before and you need no better example than the sponsor of today's ledg legislation, the chairman of the overnight committee, caroline malone. it took six weeks to determine who the winner was. that's the concern the president has. that's the concern i have. that's the concern i think lots of american versus. this is not about the postal service. this is about politics. they have $14 billion cash on hand, $10 billion line of credit. they're making more money than they were at this point last year. they're removing sorting machines and changing out

mailboxes. guess what, neil, every postmaster general has done that. between 2011 and 2016 president obama removed 12,000 mail collection boxes. was he trying to influence an election? no. this is the typical politics from the democrats, one more way they think they can go after the president and attack the white house. i think americans see through it. americans want their elections to work safely, want them to be secure. we all want that to happen. let's make sure we focus on that. neil: nevertheless, congressman, the president did say earlier this week he opposed election aid for states and emergency bailout for the postal service, citing among other things that it might restrict many americans of the ability to vote by mail but he also said that voting by mail has repeatedly made the claim that mail-in ballots can lead to widespread fraud. do you believe that this is as much about his trying to stymie the process than enhance it?

>> i think this is the democrats playing politics. why are we voting on the bill today but not having the hearing on the legislation and hearing from the postmaster general until monday day. normally it's the other way around. normally you get the information, hear from the person in charge, the postmaster general. how much do you want to bet on monday they treat the postmaster general like they treated the attorney general three weeks ago? how much do you want to bet? this is not about any type of policy solution or concerns about what's -- this is all about politics. it was first the russia investigation. then the first big hearing in this committee, this congress, michael cohen. he came in and lied seven times. then it was the fake ukraine impeachment. this is the latest effort of the democrats to go after the president. i think the american people see it as evidenced by the simple fact we're voting on a $25 billion piece of legislation today yet we haven't had a hearing on it. the hearing is going to happen after the fact. this tells you it is not serious

about real legislation, not real serious effort, this is political. neil: i understand where you're coming from, congressman. if you're the president of the united states -- he's not the only one that expressed reservations about an overwhelmed system dealing with what could be 100 billion mail-in ballots, do you think he would welcome cutting financing for the post office to make that -- >> of course not. neil: -- next to impossible. that's what democrats are charging. the time of all this -- >> it's not true. neil: it's not odd to you? >> it's like so many things the democrats have said. it's not true. come on. i tell you what is a concern, do you really think if you mailed a ballot to every single voter, 150 million ballots, do you really think we would know who the outcome and have all those ballots counted on election night? we know what happened in new jersey last month. they had their primary election. their primary election, it took four weeks to count those. in new york, in the chairman of

the committee, we know what happened in one congressional primary, her race, the election was june 23rd. it took six weeks to determine a winner. do we want that in the biggest election, presidential election, 150 million people potentially voting? that's the scary thing. look, that's the concern i think the president has and that's what he's expressing. neil: i stawfnltd maybe i wasn't clear -- i understand. maybe i wasn't clear in my question. that the timing of cutting aid would actually fit in with that notion, what you were -- it's going to overwhelm the system so we will ahead of time make things more difficult. that's what democrats are going to argue about that, that coincidental timing. >> the cares act we passed in march, the stimulus to deal with the coronavirus situation, had a $10 billion line of credit. they've got $14 billion they're sitting on. they're bringing in as i said earlier, bringing in more money now than they were at this point

last year. so it's just not based in reality the democrats' claims. neil: all right. congressman, very good catching up with you. thank you. i know you work around the clock. no surprise you're in on a saturday. jim jordan, the ranking member. this measure to the congressman's point that's up for grabs today is providing $25 billion in additional funding to the united states postal service. now, the back and forth over the timing of that versus the president's timing of aid that was already baked into a prior package, part of the original stimulus efforts, it can be up there for debate and people can expect and maybe make their charges at will. what's a bigger point that maybe you should ask yourself right now is why the rush to get the postal service taken care of and not right now to finally put a stamp on the stimulus measure out there that republicans and democrats supposedly were having

difficulty cobbling together. the president went ahead with his own efforts to issue executive actions and orders to get money to people right away including a payroll tax cult, extension of -- tax cut, extension of jobless benefits. congressman dan kill dde will be joining us. one of the things we're going to raise with him as we did with congressman jordan is the notion, is this what you rush back for. the democrats claim they had to rush back on this because the president was trying to steal the he'l election. republicans counter that first, that's nonsense and, b, if stimulus is so important for you, you would make that the reason that you could back and not this. this is the rub between the two parties. this is probably going to fall along party lines with democrats voting for this measure today. at least a dozen republicans are for it as well.

dan kilde with us now. good to see you. before you came up, dan, congressman jim jordan was here, saying there's nothing mack goin with the postmaster general, there was funding there. this wasn't about mail-in ballots, this was about the post office's ability to move forward. you say what? >> well, first of all, in the middle of a pandemic when people rely on the postal service for sort of an essential lifeline, for medicines, absolutely for ballots, this is not the time to implement these cost cutting measures that have slowed down the mail. i listen -- neil: they say they're not cost cutting. they argue the money was there. they were not for the additional monies that democrats wanted. what do you say to that? >> it's not monies that democrats wanted. it's monies that the board of governors of the united states postal service said was

necessary. by the way, every member of the board of governors was appointed by donald trump. so $25 billion just didn't come out of thin air. it came from trump appointees who said this is what we need, in this pandemic, in order to ensure the swift delivery of mail in the united states during this difficult time. so i just completely disagree with the characterization that some have made that this is somehow about politics. i was able to overhear some of jim jordan's comments. to the extent it's about politics, the president has taken us there. he said, he was directly quoted, that if we come to a deal that will allow mail-in voting, and if we have mail-in voting what does that mean, it means democrats, republicans and independent can choose for themselves how they want to have their ballot delivered. that seems pretty american to me. neil: but you will acknowledge that whether it's political or not, it is going to overwhelm the system as we have it right

now, it will be double the mail-in ballots we had four years ago. there's reason to believe it could be a mess, right? >> no, i don't think so. i think that's a lot of hyperbole. the ballots are going to come in one way or the other. they're either going to come by people standing in line and potentially putting themselves at risk, that will overwhelm the system all on one day. if we have mail-in ballots, clerks are going to be able to process those ballots as they come in. number of people who will vote in the united states is the number of people who will vote. so the idea that was suggested that somehow this makes it more difficult to count votes, first of all is not true but secondly, seriously, do we want to decide that because we're in a pandemic that people shouldn't be able to exercise their right to a vote in a most safe and convenient way to them because it creates an inconvenience for people counting the votes, that's ridiculous. no matter how many days it takes

to count the votes, the votes should be counted. neil: we'll see what happens. the vote is on. from here, it's anyone's guess. stay with us, you're watching cavuto live. man, is there a lot going on.

>> china owns joe biden many his son got a billion and-a-half dollars. his son with no experience, no brain power, no anything, never did it. not only ukraine, he got hundreds of thousands of dollars a month from ukraine and the $3 million upfront payment and then with china, he walks out with a billion and-a-half dollars to manage. that means millions of dollars a year in fees. it's ridiculous. by the way, they own joe biden. they own him. and they want me to lose so badly. neil: all right. that was not the sound bite i was waiting for here but obviously the president saying that china is going to become a

big issue, so be it, when it comes to joe biden because he is definitely in their allegiance, so-to-speak. the bigger thing that occurred and that people counted on including the president with the democratic convention now wrapped up, forget china, how law and order never came up as an issue. bob cuesack joins us, the hill editor in chief. what do you make of that, this idea that the democrats and a number of them on this show have come on to tell me that they too felt that was an important enough issue at least to raise but they did not. and they might rue that now especially as republicans are prepared to pound it. what do you sunshine. >> i think that's going to be a theme for the republican convention and i also think that trump needs to make this -- he needs to remind people of what he did in the first term. politics is about the future. he's got to talk about his agenda in the second term which he hasn't done yet and make this

is a choice, not a refer refere. republicans are saying this is too much about trump and we need to make it about biden and a choice. it was a choice in 2016. trump won. that's what he needs to do this week. neil: the question is, can he do that. i find it ironic that now democrats are the ones getting cornered for having a dark, critical convention and joe biden's message was dark and ominous, if we get this guy reelected it might as well be locusts and bats. i'm exaggerating to make the point. that is exactly what they said of dram's inaugust -- donald trump's inaugural address when he became president in january of 2017. what do you make of that? >> one thing is that this convention is not going to be boring. it wasn't boring in 2016, the republican convention. trump knows how to put on a show. and he also has to have an uplifting message. number one, he's got to make the

case that th covid is getting better and we're getting on top of this and in a month or two it's going to be better than it is now. i think that's very important for him to do. because that's the number one issue right now. but yes, it those be uplifting and democrats over the next couple months, they have to be concerned about making sure that it's not all anti-trump. that didn't work four years ago. neil: you know, emmanuel cleaver of oz was on with me last week. he was saying i think at some point, you look at this and have you to say this man is not fit for the presidency. i get that. but i think then have you to go on and talk and say the policies and programs i'm going to put in place, in other words, his fear was that democrats came off too negative. do you think they came off too negative? >> you know, i think they came -- i think they had a pretty good week. i think biden's speech was pretty good. you have to vote for somebody.

democrats banked on the fact that people would vote against trump in 2016 and that didn't work. i think the biden camp over the next couple months has to lay out clearly what they're going to do his speech did not have exactly what he's going to do. we don't know whether biden is going to go left or stay in the center. democrats are looking at -- the progressives are looking for clues on that. i think democrats have to be a little more clear in what they're going to do and i think biden has to do more interviews. he's not been doing a lot of interviews. trump is available every day. neil: there is that. thank you very much. the latest example might be seattle's democratic mayor, after this what do you look for when you trade? i want free access to research. yep, td ameritrade's got that. free access to every platform. yeah, that too. i want to know what i'm paying upfront. yes, absolutely. now offering zero commissions on online trades.

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with the council's decision to make cuts before developing a plan. we need to know what those cuts do for public safety. there's no plan for how the city will bridge potential gaps in the police response caused if we lose 100 police officers. neil: that is the democratic mayor, saying the democratic council push to defund police in her city is not going anywhere, rejecting that, vetoing that move. the only issue now is why did this not come up, certainly the four-day democratic political convention where defunding the police was sort of like an expression, an issue non grata. jenna kobal joins us, fox news political analyst, best selling author, so much more. we've seen a number of cities that have taken another look at the whic wisdom of constantly bg the police, the chicago mayor among them and others who are saying this is going too far.

what do you make of that? >> i think that's called common sense, neil. i'm thankful people are making an examination of it. we've got to keep in mind there's been at least 13 cities that have defunded the police department, austin, texas cut $150 million, new york cut $1 billion, san francisco, $120 million, baltimore, $22 million, portland, 166. -- 16. and in the city of new york, murders in july was up 50%. you're seeing the ramifications of defunding the police. this makes no sense for a lot of americans and whenever i post on my instagram about this about this issue, democrats and republicans chime in on how much of this is nonsense. and as you just mentioned in terms of the convention, people are going to look at people like president trump and say this is the only person who has common sense when it comes to law enforcement because democrats refuse to do so. you're putting the safety of a

lot of people in jeopardy, especially in places like the big cities like new york. 50% up in july. that's insane, neil. neil: part of the strategy i understand with not hounding the defund police theme, it's gotten to be popular among city mayors and councils, at least at the convention the base didn't like it. the base didn't like that theme, thought it would be problematic to talk about the protests, peaceful protesting. we get that. it would complicate things to say that the run-ins some of the protesters have had with police would muddy the water. they seem to be regretting that now. i'm wondering given the fact that republicans will likely keep pounding this law and order theme, how big an issue do you think it is in the fall campaign? >> i think it's going to be a very big issue. you just look at some of the

viral clips we've seen with groups like blm and other folks, antifa and others that go to individuals' houses and they sit outside and they protest. people are legitimately in fear in a number of these communities. i think of my hometown of chicago where you're seeing shootings up, we've seen shootings up in the course of the summer generally when it comes to chicago but you're seeing it in places where it doesn't normally happen. you're seeing it in downtown chicago. people are getting murdered in the streets. you have people that may not like president trump, may not want to vote for him, there's some democrats that are saying i'm not going to vote for president trump but i'm certainly not going to vote for joe biden and kamala harris. neil: i was talking to janine berllie a conservative writer on

fbn the other day, which if you don't get, you should demand. >> i get it, neil. i watch it all the time. neil: i'm really so -- but one of the things that struck me as interesting, we always talk a about the great silent vote for donald trump that isn't reflected because people don't want to say they're supporting donald trump, she said it's that times several factors in the black community, that there are many more black supporters of donald trump than are showing up in the polls. do you believe that? >> i do believe that. and we've seen policy that's been activated that's been specific and directed towards african-americans from this administration, the trump administration, over the course of three plus years. so he's been very beneficial to this particular group of people and when you think about the current candidates that are running, kamala harris, joe biden, both have problematic records when it comes to african-americans. you talk about the '94 crime

bill, kamala harris prosecutorial record and especially -- this is why i think they'll have real issues, joe biden and kamala harris, young african-americans for the most part do not support in my opinion their candidacy. you've seen on social media when kamala harris was announced, i look at a website, an instagram account that has 20 million followers that african-americans follow, the shade room, a lot of individuals were saying i will not be supporting that ticket. for kamala harris and joe biden they should be very concerned, the young african-americans are not galvanizing their candidacy, not excited at all. neil: we'll see, election day. if that's right, that could change the electoral map substantially. >> it absolutely will. neil: always good catching up with you, my friend. a lot more coming up, including all these college conferences that have either delayed or outright canceled football season. i want you to meet the parent of

a nebraska football player saying why and who came up with this, and exactly how did this come about. he's fear just. he's here. --ers furious, -- he's furious, he's here.

neil: all right. colleges increasing messages to incoming students this fall, you can still party but if you overdo it you better not do it here and if you insist on it, you are out of here. more and more colleges and

universities are suspending if not outright expelling students who take the partying thing a bit too far and get a little too close. right now, charles watson following all of that from atlanta, georgia. >> reporter: universities are cracking down after at least three institutions moved to virtual learning after a rise in coronavirus cases on campus. syracuse university says it may be on the brink of shutting campus down, this after a video emerged on social media showing students secretly gathering on campus earlier this week. so far, the university has suspended 23 students who were identified in the video. university of notre dame leaders are deciding whether to keep students on campus or send them home after a rise in positive case there's. school officials have blamed the increase on off dashcam pus parties. -- off- campus parties. the university's president says it's up to students to save the

semester. >> the objective of these temporary restrictions is to tame the spread of the virus so we can get back to in-person instruction, if these steps are not successful we will have to send students home. >> reporter: thousands of students at the university of north carolina, chapel hill, are going home. the school canceled on-campus activities after positive rates skyrocketed from 2.8 to 13.6% in one week since students returned to campus and children could carry higher loads of the coronavirus than adults, according to a study in the journal of pediatrics, that means young kids with little to no symptoms could be more infectious than previously believed. neil: thank you very much. obviously, a number of college football conferences have decided for themselves, we won't

be playing football this fall. but a group of nebraska football parents want to know in the case of the big 10 of, how it is they reached the conclusion, what were the series of votes, who voted and what the heck is going on because for them, it's their kids, for them, it's the kids themselves, for them, it's their futures and right now for glen notgrass, it's about trying to understand how these decisions were apparently made without checking with anyone else. glen's son play as a linebacker on the nebraska university football team. glen, very good to have you. have you gotten any response yet? >> no, we haven't gotten any response from the big 10 as of yet. our goal is to get something back by monday as of nine. as of -- at noon. as of now, we haven't heard anything. neil: there's the big 10, the pac 12, the university of connecticut on its own

suspending the season. i could go on and on. more than half the big money conferences are all or in part not playing. so even if the big 10 were to reverse itself or even if nebraska were to separate from the big 10, i don't know if they can do it, it's a doomed season. >> well, i don't know if that's necessarily true. i mean, i think there has to be some quick changes and there would have to be a lot of flexibility among the athletic directors in the different conferences to get things going again real quickly. i wouldn't call it a doomed season at this point. it's going to be difficult to get things going for sure. i think there's still a possibility of doing that. neil: what did you make of the vice president weighing in on this, defending the decision, effectively saying right now in the balance of this, health and

safety, players like your son comes to mind. do you agree with that or do you think that's being shoved to the side? >> i didn't hear the vice president's comments but i know us as a parent group from the university here feel like this -- the football team at the university of nebraska is a very safe place for our kids to be. we feel like the measures they have in place, the experts they have, the testing that they have goes above and beyond even the -- what's been handed down to them from people higher up. and so we feel like being on that football team and actively a member of the team is more safe than them not being a part of it. i know this week a lot of the kids are not involved with the football program and i just get a little bit concerned of what's going on without that structure that they have with being a part of the football team. neil: what do you think of how

this is affecting the kids themselves, the players, your own son, pretty good. he has -- he has a great deal of professional interest and this could stymie that. >> well, these are highly competitive kids that have dedicated their lives to this, from a very young age. and their lives have been scheduled out for them for a long, long time and when you take that away from them, when you take that competitive outlet away from them, you know, it's very, very difficult on them and i think one of the big things was kind of the roller coaster ride they were taken on initially. there was a lot of feelings that we were going to play and then we weren't and then the schedule came out and when the schedule came out and the positive comments from commissioner warren, i think our kids were ecstatic. they were sky high. and then with seemingly no change in information and data and science, five days later it

was shut down. and i think that was devastating on those kids. and i can speak for my son in particular, it was really difficult on him. but these are resilient kids. these are tough kids and i know they're going to fight through it but then the next part of this is in two or three weeks, when they turn the tv on, on saturday, and they watch the sec and acc and big 12 teams playing and the aac down in the southeast part of the country, that's going to be difficult on these kids, mentally and emotionally and not only the kids, i think parents and i think fans all over the country and so that's a big thing that we're concerned about. my son is a tough, resilient kid who is going to be ready to play football whenever they tell us to but i will say it was difficult on him and i think on a lot of kids. neil: i think that's an -- i would not mess with your son. he is awesome. hang in there. i'm sure something will work out here. he has a bright future, i know a lot of these kids do as well.

glen snotgrass again just wants answers, not only from the big 10, to understand how the decision may have come out, who else was involved. the big 10, the pac 12, the mountain west, the ivy league, unc separately, u-conn separately that will not be playing this fall. right now, the only major named conferences that are slated to still press forward are the sec, the big 12 and the acc. we'll see how that works out. in the meantime, if you want to know what will change the tenor of the economy, maybe this entire election comes down to a vaccine. if one is out there and close to getting approved here, everything, everything changes. the guys behind novavax,

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doctor who is the president of novavax, research and development, handles all vaccine and all that at the company. doctor, very good to have you back. where are things right now? >> yes, good morning. well, i think things are looking promising. you know, i've been listening -- i had been listening to the interview beforehand, just reminds me of how much disruption and chaos and death it's causing globally. this is a war. and things are going well. you know, my parents are old enough to have gone through world war ii and it reminds me of the mobilization of the u.s. industry to make arms and to crush the enemy that every agreed needed to be crushed. i think what's happened in the u.s. is extremely encouraging. it's a mobilization of the biotechnology infrastructure, and funding and really just kind

of in a way of line check get things done right to get the vaccine. i think we're going to look back in history and say this has been the greatest mobilization of our of science and facilities and to answer your question directly i think things are going very well. but, you know, it's not simple. there's many things to be balanced. most of all, we need to show the vaccine is safe and efficacious and have real solid proof that it works and so that's what we're -- i think we're approaching answers like that in the next six months, really strong answers because of -- neil: you said six months, doctor. is it your sense that an actual vaccine could take that long? we'd be well into 2021? >> well, no, i think -- you know, what's going to drive this is evidence that the vaccine works and as we know, multiple companies including ourselves are in that stage now of where

we're actually immuneizing people, we have a placebo controlled trial which is the gold standard for the vaccine to work. so multiple companies are in that stage. what will drive the timing is collecting enough evidence and that really means enough cases. so if i came and said i've got a quarter every time i flip it, it comes up heads, it's a miraculous thing, well, how many times did you flip it? twice. you wouldn't be convinced of that. if you flip it 100 times, it's more convincing. there's a well-defined statistical criteria you need to meet to show it works. that's dependent on accumulating cases. what's happened in the trials, which is also unprecedented, it's a real mobilization of understanding where the cases are and shifting the trial conduct and testing into those areas, have really good a.i. methods for tracking.

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neil: you got the wildfires in california, you've got not one, but two tropical storms bearing down on the gulf right now busy times for adam klotz our fox meteorologist. adam, what the heck? >> yeah, neil, things are crazy out there and unfortunately that's going to be continuing. i'm going to dive in and show you that the wildfire possibility remains, particularly in northern california as w we've got red fg warnings, it's dry, hot, humid and windy, that's when you typically see wildfires. looking into the carribean, we're tracking a couple storms. this one will run up into the gulf of mexico for early next week, running up to a category 1 hurricane, maybe making landfall in louisiana on wednesday. it's not the only storm we're paying attention to. we're watching tropical storm marco. currently just spinning off the yucatan peninsula. this also is going to be lifting into the gulf of mexico over the next couple of days. so we're going to be seeing potentially two hurricanes in the gulf of mexico at the same

time, this one potentially running up along the texas coast, that will be happening probably on tuesday evening. so maybe making landfall about 24 hours apart but, again, little bit unheard of, having two potential hurricanes in the gulf of mexico at the same time, neil, this is one we're going to be paying very close attention to as we get into early next week. neil: add a cam, thank you very -- adam, thank you very much. a kiwhat going on in capitol hi, it seems odd you're hearing there are people on capitol hill but there are, they're debating a measure that would extend funding to the united states postal service and provide the support it would need to count all the mail-in ballots that could be close to 100 million ballots versus less than 40 million some four years ago. james clyburn will be joining us, fair and balanced. we'll hear from senator john kennedy or louisiana.

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>> next up, republicans. democrats had their chance with a four-day convention and now the virtual baton, if you will, will be handed off to the republicans gathering this week waiting to hear from the president of the united states at the end of the week on thursday when he addresses the nation from the white house. rich edson on what republicans might be planning that could be different than what we've just saw from the democrats. hey, rich. >> hey, neil. it's a paired down culmination of speeches with the president on thursday. republicans say they plan on contrasting themselves with the democratic ticket. though both parties agree on one thing, this election is a biggie. >> i think it may be one electie

life of this nation because of-- it's a choice between president trump's record and agenda of freedom and opportunity, versus a democrat agenda, driven by the radical left, and joe biden's vision that will result in socialism and decline for america. >> expected to appear all four nights of the convention. republicans branded the 2020 edition, honoring the great american story. republicans chose charlotte as their convention site, just like their democratic opponents, republicans have significantly altered their nominating convention, thanks to the global pandemic. only six delegates from each state will conduct party business in charlotte, masks are mandatory and spaced chairs six feet apart. and they've gone across the country in the auditorium for a few blocks and here from the white house in baltimore. and the full list of speakers is not out yet. and we expect to hear from

first lady melania trump on tuesday, and vice-president mike pence on wednesday and the republican national committee has put in a permit request for fireworks show here in d.c. that could be launched just after the president speaks on thursday here at the white house. neil. neil: all right. democrats had fireworks, fireworks are a big thing. thank you very much, my friend, as always. the democrats are not lying low, and after all, if the president was going to be visiting battle ground states as he did when the democrats were gathering, exactly what the democrats planning to counter that. hillary vaughan on their strategy. hey, hillary. >> democrats are planning a strategic counter campaign to drown out the rnc as republicans are getting ready to deliver their rebuttal of attacks of democrats. they're trotting out a lineup of surrogates. congresswoman val deming followed by michigan governor

whitmer, and speaker nancy pelosi and mayor pete buttigieg. even though they're flooding the zone with party heavy weights, two big names are missing from the lineup, joe biden and kamala harris. so far they do not have any publicly scheduled events for next week and the dnc and biden campaign side stepped questions about his schedule and whether they'll be part of it. while biden and harris are on the trail today they will show up on voters' tv tomorrow in the first joint interview. >> would you be prepared to shut this country down again? >> i would be prepared to do whatever it takes to save lives because we cannot get the country moving until we control the virus. that is the fundamental flaw of this administration's thinking to begin with. in order to keep the country running and moving and the economy growing, and people employed, you have to fix the vir

virus. >> neil, the threat of a shutdown could have a major impact on local economies and small businesses, and that could throw a wrench in biden's plans to reboot the economy, as he has promised, if he's elected in november. neil. neil: hillary vaughan, thank you very, very much. in the meantime, we're keeping an eye on washington right now where the house is taking up that measure to boost the folks and some are calling it a bailouts and some are calling the democrats behind it, a $25 million replenishment that they sorely need. what's the timetable on this? what do you think, bud? >> hey, good morning, neil. well, the house of representatives is considering what you call the rule. this is the pre debates where they set up the parameters on the debate. a lot of feisty fireworks on the floor already where you have them calling the fact that the democrats are bringing the postal service bill to the floor. he says this is a puncuation point on the democrat's

convention the past couple of days here, trying to attack president trump and a lot of republicans are skeptical about this bill. let's start with james comer, a republican from kentucky. >> i wonder what elijah cummings would think right now about rushing this bill without having a committee hearing. this bill hasn't been through regular order. there's no plan how the money is going to be spent, as long as those two incidents are in effect, it's not going to be a bipartisan bill. >> most republicans would oppose the bill, but we expect 12 to 15 republicans to vote yes. and the postmaster dejoy testified yesterday that the postal service didn't need help right away. and dejoy is appearing before a committee on monday. >> in the spirit of bipartisanship because there are a number of republicans that support my bill, i truly do want this to be a bipartisan effort and i truly am open to

any suggestions that allow us to maintain the mail, make sure it gets to the people, helps us get through this pandemic and the election. >> the white house has threatened to veto the bill and says, quote, the administration regrets na some have chosen to politicize required operational changes at the usps. and dejoy says changes aren't needed until after the election. there's nothing on the bill on coronavirus. you have a number of democrats, more than half of the democratic caucus in the ear of nancy pelosi pushing her to tack that onto the schedule today. that's not going to happen. they'll go to the debate in the early afternoon, neil and probably finish up 5:or 6:00. neil: and i call him the king maker because if not for his support early on for joe biden in south carolina to turn things around, he may not be the nominee now.

good to have you. thanks for coming. >> thank you very much for having me. neil: i understand the postmaster general will be testifying on capitol hill before, you know, carol maloney's committee, but you're voting on this measure today. shouldn't you wait to hear from him first? >> well, i don't think so. the testimony is about the actions he's already taken. much of this bill is about the ability for him to do the job that he's supposed to be doing and to maybe undo some of the things he's already done. now, i know he testified yesterday before a senate committee at which time he made it very clear he does not plan to undo any of the stuff he's already done. when you take sorting machines out of post offices in states where 100% of the voting takes

place by mail, it tells me you have some sinister motives and so we are going to hear from him on monday defend those motives that i consider to be sinister. he may think that there's some good to it and that's why they're having him to testify. it's got little to do with the-- >> what if it's not sinister? i know at that it does sort of fill a narrative here, but this happens routinely through different postmaster generals through the obama administration, clinton administration, bush administration. it's the timing of this that may be people are pouncing on to say, a-ha, the president's way of trying to fix the vote. but might that be a little extreme? >> no, it's not a little extreme. why would you do this in front of an election, especially during a time when you're having a pandemic? we have a global pandemic here. neil: we had a clearing of sorting machines, congressman,

three weeks before the election in 2012. two weeks before the election in 2008. one week before the election in 2000. in other words, this is part of a process that sometimes has nothing do with counting ballots now and/or otherwise. >> what pandemic were we having then or even epidemic? people are being asked to stay at home. we know, we want social distancing to take place. we know there's going to be a bigger volume this year of voting by mail than ever before. so what's wrong until waiting until november 4th to implement this when you know full well that the people, the volume is going to be up. you need more people and you're cutting their overtime. come on, neil, you know better than that. anybody can see through that. neil: all right, well,

obviously republicans disagree. you know, we'll go back and forth on this. but you mentioned the virus and how that makes things different. we could have 180 million people voting by mail either by absentee or direct mail-in ballots. do you have confidence that the post office can handle that kind of volume? >> no, i don't. and that's why i have been pushing for the declaration of october as election month so that we can have social distancing, so that people can vote absentee in person, vote early in person, and so, we ought to be funding an effort to get people ballot boxes, much as they do in colorado. i've been saying colorado model ought to be our national model for voting. make it easy and convenient for people to vote. everybody's going to leave home at some time. go to the grocery store, to the

drug store. on your way drop off your ballot at the ballot boxes that you place right around time -- right around town in places of convenience. that's what we ought to be doing, starting 30 days out or at least 28 days, since october 3rd is the saturday. ought to start on october 5th, allowing people to cast absentee ballots in person. that's what i think we ought to do and lessen the volume or the dependence on the mail. neil: congressman, we just wrapped up an eventful, you know, four-day democratic national convention and i'm wondering, some are wondering whether an opportunity was missed by democrats to at least address the law and order issue. by all means, talk up the right to free and peaceful protests, but nothing said about the defunding police movement. we've heard it from democratic mayors who in seattle's case

are dead set against budget cuts for the time being, but we didn't hear it out of any of the national players this past week. do you regret that? >> no, i don't regret that. our business is not to run local police departments. the mayor out in seattle and the city councilmen in seattle and the former police chief, they're doing what they think they have to do at the local level to police, to keep people safe. that's not the job-- >> there was no word in support of police. i'm not saying it has to be 50-50, black lives matter, blue lives matter, but no mention of blue lives. >> we always mention blue lives. we have respect for blue lives, for black lives, for white lives, for whatever lives. neil: sir, i didn't hear it at the convention. i did not hear it. might have missed it. >> i heard it, i heard it over and over again. it's called the constitution of the united states. i heard it over and over again. neil: i didn't hear it at your

convention. do you regret that? >> no, i don't regret a single thing at this convention. i think we did exactly what we needed to do. i believe very strongly that we have demonstrated to the american people, who should be running this country and we have demonstrated what platform is best for inclusion of all the people in this country and i'm waiting with baited breath to see exactly what we can get out of the republican party next week. neil: all right, do you think the language went too far blaming all the coronavirus deaths exclusively on donald trump? i mean, even emanuel cleaver, your colleague in the house said i don't think it helps us if we do it, this man is unfit for public office, i get that, but that this went a little far saying that he's responsible for all of these deaths. i think you have to go on and talk, but to call these deaths on him may be a mistake, what

do you think? >> it depends what do you think caused the death. did we not have a national program to prevent deaths. did we not have a national program to give people the protective equipment we need. no, we did not have. who is responsible for-- >> people died all over the world, 142 countries. right. >> who is the worst in the world, which country is worst in the world? this one and we have always traditionally been the best in the world and that's what we're trying to do as democrats, return this country to being best. being a leader. not just by precept, but by example and we have not seen an example of good leadership from this president. you can make as many excuses for him as you possibly can. the fact of the matter is, republican after republican, after republican. ceo's, you name it, they are now saying publicly, that this

man is over and above his head when it comes to running the country. >> all right. we'll see how they respond to that, congressman. it's always a pleasure having you on. and joe biden he better keep giving you bouquets of flowers. >> get out of here. thank you for being so kind. but i'm okay with him being the next president of the united states. neil: all right. thank you very much.

>> you're looking live on the house of the floor of the house of the representatives. they're taking up a financial, 25 billion dollars. and we've received word that arriving ahead of the planned vote. it could be essentially dead on arrival as far as the senate is concerned as mitch mcconnell has not offered to take this

measure up. senator john kennedy of louisiana, senate budget committee and much, much more, weighs in on that. senator, good to see you on this saturday. how are you? all right. make sure your audio is working, sir, but let me get your quick take on -- i don't know whether you heard james clyburn say about the importance of this measure they're taking up, that this is to protect americans voting rights that he says, i'm paraphrasing here, are in danger if they don't do what they're doing now. you say what? >> the post office doesn't need any more money. it's got $15 billion cash and a $10 billion line of credit. the post office is perfectly capable of handling the mail-in ballots if the secretaries of state will do their job and i think they will. this whole thing was made up by some of my democratic friends.

and by this, i mean trump trying to sabotage the post office to influence the election is just made up, to try to hurt trump and influence the election. and you know, it's just a game and this is why congress in the minds of most americans polls, right up there with skim milk. neil: well, you know, the timing comes up again and again, senator. the president said that he opposed election aid for states, even an emergency bill for the postal service, maybe for the financial reasons you outlined, but the view among democrats was he was trying to restrict how many americans can vote by mail. he's already publicly said that he doesn't think voting by mail was a wise idea that it could lead to abuse and all that. and this might be the means which which he does it. disavow them of the notion that he's trying to rig the game. >> when the president said what

he said, he opened the door and speaker pelosi being very astute politically ran right through it. you know, facts are-- facts don't cease to exist because you ignore them. if you look at the amount of money the post office has and if you look at the volume of mail that it handles every year, like 71 billion pieces of mail, and you look at just what happens, just during christmas and how the post office is able to do what it does, this is a manufactured crisis. now, having said that, of the senate republicans working on a bill that will be ready by the end of next week that will probably have a section dealing with the post office. i think we'll get between 40 and 53 republican votes. i hope we put it on the floor of the senate. i hope my democratic friends will vote for it. it will be comprehensive

coronavirus bill. not just by the post office. i don't think my democratic friends are going to vote for it and i don't think a fifth coronavirus bill is going to pass because the democratic leadership, i think, believes that the chaos that our country is experiencing now is in their political benefit. and that's why when my people of louisiana asked me how many people work in congress, i always say about half. and the rest of the time they spend trying to finagle the next election. neil: talk a lot. all right, senator, we'll have more after this. okay... okay! safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!!

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>> all right, looking live at the house vote. that's right, it's a house vote and it's a saturday. congress was out through the labor day weekend. well, they're back and democrats leading a charge right now to make sure the post office gets the money it needs. they say it needs 25 billion dollars. republicans say this is all a political sham and they want nothing to do with it even though a dozen republicans are part of this. but, as both sides have been telling me here, all of this coming not to address the stimulus relief that both sides promised to deliver, but exclusively on the post office here. is that the right message to be sending? and could that be problematic for the markets, the economy, you name it. and the capital director strategy, wall street journal

associate editor. franc francis, whatever you think the post office needs, there are more pressing for stimulus release, ideas about stimulus release. this ain't it what they're doing right now. >> no, neil, i agree with you. the extended unemployment insurance is more important because according to a census bureau poll survey 26.5% of this country is afraid they cannot make their next rent payment or mortgage payment. i understand that we have forebearance and a moratorium on evictions, however at some point that's going to make a difference. the thing about the post office and the argument should be how do we prevent what happened in the primary in states like new york. not is it good, voters rights, is it bad. can the post office handle it, how do we prevent that scenario i think is the discussion we should be having about it. neil: you know, john, stepping back and looking at the

markets, s & p and the nasdaq both with records yesterday, they recouped about 55% from the shattering they took back in march. the dow is what, 4, 5% away from making it a hat trick and then all three back in record territory. what are the markets telling us? >> well, the markets are telling us that they love fed easing and they love national stimulus programs that reduce the amount of foreclosures a that put a lot of money into the system. that's what the markets are telling us. i'm not sure the election, what election. the markets are focused on the fundamental sources of support from the fed and the stimulus. you know, the president had said, look, if biden gets elected the markets are going to crash. biden has been in the polls now for several weeks and the markets keep going up. and so, if anything, if it's

factor at all. the moderate democrat possibly getting elected and the markets did well in the 1990's under a moderate democrat. the president also needs to remember that only about 55% of americans actually have any piece of the stock market in their 401(k)'s or elsewhere and a vast majority of that, 87% of the wealth. market is held by 10% of the population by wealth. so it's a very divergent issue. the bigger issue for the president is the economy and the economy has gone south. neil: frances, of course, the president argues the opposite here. the economy certainly went south in the deep throes of the virus and since has been coming back, 10 million jobs back in the last three months. we're seeing housing booming, home sales are up at a 24% clip in the latest month. so their argument is, if you want to disrupt this, elect the other guy. are the markets then pouncing

on the belief that donald trump will survive this? or to john's point, it doesn't matter as long as as the federal reserve is doing what it's doing and the stimulus keeps coming, it doesn't matter? >> well, i kind of don't think that the markets have completely priced in a biden presidency. you have 20% of companies in the u.s. are in that zombie phase where they cannot afford to pay their debt service. they don't make enough money to cover their debt service, right. while we saw that this market traded not on the fact that we had negative earnings in the previous corner, but that we beat expectations, okay. well, that was good news. but really, only 38% of the s&p 500 is actually up above its february 19th high. 62% of the s&p 500 is still down. so if you calculate, you take those over leveraged balance sheets and the fact that we have lots of bankruptcies and 62% of small businesses say that they can't make it to the end of the year unless we open this economy back up, and you

go forward with that, and then you add a corporate tax increase from 21% to 28% amongst the other tax increases, that's balance sheets are really going to suffer and while earnings have not mattered during the pandemic because we're uncertain how long the pandemic is going to last and what the ultimate unemployment is going to be, what's temporary, what's not. earnings will matter. there are too many wall streeters out there with that calculator, crunching those things. so, one of two things is going to happen and i do think the election matters because of the tax numbers being calculated into those evasions, is that either that 62% that is down is going to come back up and we're going to have a broader rally and a bull market, and fortunately, you know, that would be a fortunate case, right? and then, or the 38% that is having the gains is going to fall because we're going to keep, you know, crunching these

numbers and as as prolonged as the pandemic it, it could be bad. neil: we'll see. we just don't know right now. what we do know is that a lot of businesses and states are feeling they're getting buffaloed by all of this. quite literally, after this.

>> all right. a big dust up in the big apple. more specifically the empire state itself.

as nine buffalo area businesses sue the state over very restricted covid-19 responses. my next guest is one of them. runs a billiards shop, popular with the pool players, those who want a good snack, some drinks and he's in the middle of this quite literally getting buffaloed through here. mike, have you heard anything back from the governor's office on this? >> no, we haven't heard anything yet and that's why we've been-- the economy has been doing great for the last three years and so has our business. we've invested $110,000 in january to expand our business, two months later because of covid we were forced to close. we've been closed for five months and that's basically crushed us. neil: does the state hint at when you can reopen and what the provisions might be? >> they've been very cloudy about it. they can't -- they've told us

we can sell food and sell drinks, but no pool. now, we're not a restaurant or a bar. people come in, pool players come in. we're a draw for that and they eat and drink while they're there. it's very unclear as to when we can open. we've been forced to stay closed this long and we can't wait any longer. neil: so that's right, you are an oddity. you're not-- not you, not to be disrespectful, but you're both a small business and a restaurant, and/bar. so you fall under all of those restrictions, i mean-- >> right. >> and right now-- >> we were closed when biology alleys closed so we decided to open when bowling alleys open. we meet or exceed all covid protoc protocol. neil: so let me ask you about this. the governor, as you might be aware, mike, is writing a book that will be out, i think, in the fall touting his leadership

of the coronavirus in new york state. what do you think of that? >> not sure about that. it's not my area of expertise all i know is this, i've heard numbers on both sides of it. i like the idea that we're down, that's good. i don't like the idea of being one of the highest death rates per capita in the world. that, i'm not sure what numbers to believe when they're coming out kind of like when can we open, when can we not? we're hearing different things from different people. neil: i hear you on that and both parties have kind of done a disservice to guys like you because they play more politics with it than just the underlying business industry. they argue that it's both parties, depending on the governor in each state, all the way up to the president of the united states. safety comes first and that americans are protected. obviously, you have distancing and other provisions in place if and when you're allowed to reopen, but that's apparently

not enough, right? >> i agree with you. i'm a mom and pop business. my wife and i had no other work. we both worked, and our income from there supports our business as well as our households, our employees, our mortgage depends on it. if we can't open, we lose everything. right now we're a whisper away from bankruptcy. neil: how much longer, do you think you can keep going like this? >> that's why i joined in on this lawsuit, neil. i really don't have much more time. we have to do something. we have to open up. the precautions we've taken exceed what the state requires. there's know reason why-- we're not an essential business, people don't have to come there we have over 250 regulars that play on leagues and tournaments each week that depend on cokocoming there, str relief after work, things of that nature. neil: i would disagree whether people have to go, if the wings are as good as the reputation, that alone would be the reason to come. leaving that aside, i'm

wondering, do you worry every time you hear after spike in cases and they either shut down a college football conference or they shut down and more more stringent restrictions in place in states like florida and pechl. you've heard about this. >> yes, i have. neil: and every time news like that, say this is going to further push me back? >> it's caused us not to be able to sleep at night. i think the governor took this away from us without constitutional due process. we have a right to earn a living. my wife and i have been doing this for 12 years, when i hear sports related, it bothers me because they're taking rights away from us again. neil: hang in there, mike. you make a very, very good case and you have healthful provisions in place if and when you're allowed to open. so hopefully someone will respond to this, including the governor of the state you're

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value of more than $9 billion. it's just a reminder that anything that looks potentially promising on the vaccine front, people go nuts for. you can understand and forget about the health benefits and the market benefits, that's what everyone is looking for. it could be a big game changer. how close are we, good to see you again. >> good to see you. neil: i know there's no use of favorites on these half dozen drug companies that are close or working in partnership with others on a vaccine or a treatment. but it will be a game changer, if and when one becomes available in the case of novavax that they've already got 160 million doses ready to go. thanks to partnership with the u.s. government, the united kingdom government. will that do the trick? in other words, if and when something like this comes out whether it's novavax or someone

else, how quickly does it get in people's hands? >> these are very, very important questions. first of all, in order to have a game changer, we need to have due diligence on the safety and advocacy. and the public will demand it. you know, there is a high level of trust that is required on vaccines and we hear a lot of discussion regarding vaccines. there's a lot of concern, you know, how will we build that trust around it. so, i'm an advocate for vaccination, but i certainly want to see the data before we have broad adoption of a vaccination, but i definitely would love to see that occur. i would love to see the global adoption of a vaccination for covid-19, but certainly the due diligence is critical and broad phase studies down all the way out through phase three

clinical trials done on patients, and to ensure that it's safe. >> you know, we just don't know this early go-round. what's interesting to people leery of vaccines, period. the same, with a flu shot. but there is a great deal of skepticism. i believe one out of three americans would be intrigued enough to take it. what do you make of that? >> well, look, there are many individuals that are worried and that's certainly, you know, an important point. you know, but we do know that, for example, even with the flu vaccine that you know, places historically where the vaccination has been underutilized, that there has been outbreaks of the flu alone. so, it's important to remember that individuals get their flu vaccine this year. that's the best prevention we have. now when we talk about covid-19 and the vaccination, the jury

is out. we need to understand how the vaccination will be used and how they get it. there's certainly a lot of research that needs to be completed, but, again, the hope is there that we'll have one and have it quickly and there are certainly companies working hard to get one out there. but most importantly, right now, the flu vaccine is critically important that we get that in the hands of as many people as we can. >> you know, this growing concern that young, according to the world health organization, are just as likely to spread this as anyone else and they're not bullet-proof or resistant to this. is that so? >> right, i mean, this new data that came out from jama and the journal of pediatrics, you know, showed that children potentially have the risk of spreading to others. and you know, we know now from the research that, you know, they are carriers in their

nasal passages, particularly young children underage of five. this data is important and valuable as schools are beginning to reopen, but we still know that this virus is very surprising and we have a lot more research ahead of us. these are just early studies that are certainly contradictory. there are other studies that are certainly ongoing. but it does provide policy makers early research that can begin to help us plan and we do now have more information than children, but we need more. we certainly need more. >> and they're in that process right now. dr. gupta, thank you, good seeing you again. >> good seeing you. neil: the doctor from johns hopkins university. back to politics when we come back. the battle for the battle ground states, in pennsylvania

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electoral votes he did four years ago when no one thought he would. the race is tight in pennsylvania. how do you think it's looking? >> well, neil, most presidential races in our state are always close and i expect this one to be close as well. i think that most people are focused on two major issues and you're not surprised to hear what they are, the virus, the jobs and economy and that's where i think the president has to be able to make the case on both issues. i think that vice-president biden demonstrated early way back in january that he could outline a plan and then supplemented that plan since to deal with the virus to try to tackle it to the ground, so to speak and that he's got an economic plan, i've been carrying this around all week, a little visual aid build back better. when you consider the build back better plan, he realizes when we recover, or how we recover will be so much different than we've ever seen because we've got to make sure

we can create not just the jobs for people that have been out of work for a long time. we've got in pennsylvania just yesterday, we got the july numbers, 866,000 people unemployed. unemployment rate from 13.2 to 13.7. i thought it would go down, most people thought it would go down between april and may. neil: doesn't it make it incumbent on the former vice-president, senator, to talk more about it and go out and engage the press, interviews, rather this peek-a-boo, rope-a-dope strategy a lot of his critics claim he's using to sit on a poll lead that might be evaporating on him because he's playing it too safely? >> well, neil, i think he's been engaging with the press a lot. if you look at this, the rollout of his bill build back better plan, long before the convention. four weeks outlined the details of his plan. no presidential candidate in either party in my lifetime has had a more detailed economic

plan and he laid it out-- >> i know what you're saying. >> answer the question-- >> he doesn't do it enough. he doesn't do it enough, right? >> well, look, i think he's been out there a lot and obviously the president is getting more attention, the president of the united states with a bigger microphone. but i think that this whole election, who do you want this charge of dealing with this virus and what kind of an economic future do you want? i think that vice-president biden will do quite well. neil: all right. we'll watch it very closely. senator, thank you very much. good to have you. don't know if you've had a cheese steak recently, who am i to tell if it's the thing to have. senator bob casey, thank you very much. be safe, be healthy, be well. i can just hear my doctor calling me now. did you stay the cheese steak thing again? and a quick peek of the state house, to shore up the post office. and hot to trot on this, but

nothing else. and we will explore that as will fox the rest of the day. we've got leland vittert coming up and gillian turner. no rest for the weary.

>> fox news alert. live pictures right now, the house is back for a rare saturday session, rarer still because they're supposed to be on vacation this month. the picture there of the podium was where nancy pelosi is going to give her press conference in just a minute. moments away from a vote on a $25 billion bailout package for the u.s. postal america's news headquarters. gillian, there's a lot of discussion, or perhaps you might say disagreement whether they need that $25 billion. gillian: that's right. republicans pushing hard to make the case. the post office pretty much has what they need, it's a matter of mak