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>> fox news alert. live pictures right now, the house is back for a rare saturday session, rarer still because they're supposed to be on vacation this month. the picture there of the podium was where nancy pelosi is going to give her press conference in just a minute. moments away from a vote on a $25 billion bailout package for the u.s. postal america's news headquarters. gillian, there's a lot of discussion, or perhaps you might say disagreement whether they need that $25 billion. gillian: that's right. republicans pushing hard to make the case. the post office pretty much has
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what they need, it's a matter of making things work smoother, more operationally efficient. leland, it's great to be with you. for everyone at home, i'm gillian turner. we'll bring you nancy pelosi's press conference live as it happens later this hour. first, what's exactly in this bill? the national correspondent joins us live from capitol hill. chad. >> this bill provides $25 billion for the postal service and undoes all of the changes that he had implemented, he said he was resippcinding the pt couple of days. and dejoy is testifying before the house oversight committee on monday. he appeared and said the postal service is doing fine financially right now. >> i do not a massive-- i don't need anything to do with the election night. this organization continues to perform and this is why we've
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had such high ratings. our revenues were down, other organizations would have stopped going to the rural areas. >> now, the house of representatives is going to start formal debate on this, it's pretty rare to have a saturday session especially in the middle of the august recess. they're doing this between the political conventions and rob woodall, republican from georgia says this is a puncuation point on the democratic convention. we expect the bill to pass later this afternoon. most democrats, if not all, will vote yes for this and some republicans, 12 to 15, i was told by a senior source, in the low double digits. the senate doesn't have any interest in this bill right now. another point i should mention here, gillian, mark meadows, the white house chief of staff is in the building. keep in mind he has been trying to push for what he calls a skinny coronavirus bill here. they haven't had talks on coronavirus legislation in a
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couple of weeks here. he's trying to jump start that and what he's trying to do is contrast what the democrats are doing, pushing just the post office. and saying, we want to focus on just the coronavirus. more than half of the caucus want her to deal with coronavirus on this piece of legislation today, but that's not going to happen, back to you. gillian: chad, on friday, dejoy faced off a committee chaired by republicans, but monday, he's going to come face-to-face with democrats. are you expecting that that hearing is going to be more contentious? are they going to give him a harder time on monday than friday? >> two points, yes, because the democrats are in charge of that committee. in fact, ron johnson, the chair of the senate governmental affai
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affairs committee, he said that would be more hostile. and dejoy will be there in person. some of the democrats will be beaming in virtually. panel, that was all virtual, gillian. leland are coming out and talking about this. have they put out any sort of hard data to suggest that the postal service is in a crisis. we know this they got $10 billion under the cares act. mail delivery slowed down a little because of the pandemic overall. all i keep hearing are anecdotal stories of senior not getting their medicine. no stories of mail piling up here or this number of people laid off because they haven't been. >> there was an interesting exchange in the committee hearing yesterday before the senate. jacky rosen, a democrat from nevada, you know, she flagged this thing, look, if you're going to have these changes, mr. dejoy, can you show us the documentation and that was kind of contentious. at one point he didn't exactly promise to provide jacky rosen
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and the senate with the information that he used to justify reductions. you're right there's a lot of anecdotal information. and members of congress and senate democrats, we've heard people are not getting their letters and medication, that concerns them. leland i think about the post office losing my college acceptance letter, a sore point from 2001. we'll continue and nancy pelosi's press conference is coming up. gillian. gillian: thanks, chad. joining us now is a member of the oversight committee, california congressman, sir, thanks for your time with us today. thank you, we're getting two versions of reality here, right? we've got republicans saying the post office is what it is, but it's running smoothly. you had dejoy the other day saying they're on track to
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deliver for the general election, but, sir, your colleagues make the argument, actually the post office is broken beyond repair. so, what are we, the america understand is the postal service is being asked to mail-in ballots because of the pandemic, to keep americans safe, especially older populations who literally have a life and death decision if they go to a polling booth to do their vote. so, the idea providing this additional money is to protect the voting system and protect our senior citizens. now, let's keep in mind here, that the board of governors of the usps. of the postal service, all five of them appointed by president trump is asked not for $25 billion, but for $75 billion. yet, we have $25 billion on the table in a bipartisan support recognizing that the post office needs it. gillian: so, republicans are
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asking, really, essentially, what is more money of any amount really going to do? i want to get your response to senator kennedy on with neil cavuto last hour. he said they've already got $15 billion in reserve. take a listen. >> facts don't cease to exist because you ignore them. if you look at the amount of money the post office has and if you look at the volume of mail that it handles every year, like 71 billion pieces of mail, and you look at this, what happens in christmas and how the post office is able to do what it does, this is a manufactured crisis. gillian: so congressman, is that untrue? >> well, it's definitely not a manufactured crisis. the president has created this crisis, coupled with postmaster dejoy taking out critical equipment during a pandemic and a need to be able to service the mail-in ballots.
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so, dejoy taking this action at this time is clearly an effort to suppress the vote. but also, let's keep in mind, it doesn't just suppress the vote. we are seeing stories across the country of prescriptions not being delivered in time for veterans, who receive 80% of their meds through the mail. we're seeing small businesses, not received key documents, checks and things they need to stay in business. we're seeing other benefits to medicare and social security, patients and citizens, to equipment. we're seeing evidence around the country mail being piled up because the processor is taken out. this is clearly not in an effort to save money, but clearly in an effort to suppress the vote. gillian: well, sir, we're going to have to ask you to stand by for a moment. we've got the speaker of the house nancy pelosi. >> here on a saturday, i'm so surprised of the members here to protect the post office.
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before i go into that i want to say what a sad time it is across the country with storms coming and the rest, but from our own personal experience in the state of california. we have wildfires burning that are burning the lay of the land the size of the state of rhode island. the size of the state of rhode island. we thank our firefighters for their courage, our first responders for their courage and community service. it's so sad. i remember when we had the fires before they said the fires -- the smoke cannot -- will not exceed the love that we have for each other, to come to each other's support. it is -- it's very, very sad and i commend our governor, governor newsome for his leadership, but he and i and all of us, mike thompson, whose
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district is very affected by it, all of us salute our firefighters and all of that. we just came out of the convention, as you know, and i'm very proud of -- i'm very proud of the values that were presented there. in my remarks, i said we come together not to decry the darkness, but to light a way forward for our country. that was my statement, but i was so pleased that it was so much a part of opresident to be, our nominee joe biden's statement. so today come to shine a light forward for our postal system. most people don't know, or perhaps you do, how significant the postal system was in the establishment of our country. since that time it has been as american as apple pie, motherhood, baseball, you name it.
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over 90% of the people support the postal system. there isn't any agency of government that can make that claim. it is a service, postal service. so when people say, well, it doesn't pay its own way, it's not a business, it's a service, and while we always want to subject every federal dollar to the scrutiny of what we're getting for it, let us remember that it is a service. no business that i can think of would ever be saddled with what we've done to the postal service saying that they in 2006 a bill passed that said that the postal service should pay 75 years of its health benefits in 10 years. 75 years of its health benefits in 10 years. that is a responsibility that i don't think most businesses could meet and also come out on
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top. so earlier this year, mr mr. defozzio put forth a bill to limit what it is. and when we had to do these cuts and those cuts and those cuts, we're cutting service. we're cutting service, not we, but the new postmaster general. so we've called the members back for legislation that allocates the resources $25 billion that were recommended by the u.s. postal service, the board of governors of the postal service. they are a board that are bipartisan and 100% appointed by president donald trump and they recommended the $25 billion. actually they recommended more, which we will have in other bills. so that's part of this legislation. it is also necessary for us to have this legislation because
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in my conversations with the postmaster general, which were most unsatisfactory, he said he had no intention of restoring the post office boxes that were removed. no intention of restoring the sorting machinery in the postal services and other infrastructure very essential to keeping the mail on time. and when i suggested that we have the ballots in the election treated as first class mail, he said he had no intention of doing that, but if it was in the bill, then he would and yesterday, you see that he's now saying that he will. but to make sure that that happens because his comments are one thing, his actions will be another. and that's why we have this legislation. we'll be talking about it on the floor, our distinguished chair, carolyn maloney, the committee of jurisdiction will be making had her presentati
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presentation-- as soon as the vote is over, at 1:00 and will have more to say, but i think it's very useful for people to take the pride that it does. letters to santa, messages from the tooth fairy, families communicating. i know people are doing some things on social media, and that's good. as a grandmother i can tell you-- there's no substitution than a drawing or a note from your grandchild through the mail, but more important than that, as important as that is to our culture, our health. 1.2 billion prescriptions sent through the mail in 2019. 80, 90% depending on the figures and we're trying to verify them, but at least 80% of the prescriptions sent from the va to our veterans through the mail. so when the mail slows down, the medication slows down. the health of our veterans are
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set and that, too, we are hearing from. the mail slowing down. and that's what we have to address today. and again, we'll go over all the provisions of the bill about stopping the slowing down of mail. but this was an intention. now the postmaster general is saying we're not doing any of this until after the election. our legislation is not just about the election, it's about surprise, surprise, mr. postmaster general, the coronavirus, covid 19 which has a big impact on the election sw as well as on, first and foremost, upon the health of the american people. so this isn't just about until after the election, if that can be trusted. it's about the length, as we saw in the bill, the end of january or the end of coronavirus, which other takes
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longer. so this is why this legislation is necessary, too, because even in his statements which are ambiguous, they aren't-- they don't go far enough. i'm excited about the history of it. in the early 1770's, building on the work of benjamin franklin who oversaw the pre cuss -- precursor, the revolutionaries established underground networks and the committees of correspondence and the constitutional post that enabled them to communicate without the knowledge. british. it goes on to say the earliest committee was formed in 1764 in boston, it goes on. our first postmaster general was benjamin franklin. the exchanges that followed what i just describe built solidarity during the turbulent times and helped bring about the formation of the first
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continental congress and in any event, when alexis tollfield spoke in that century, he says, alexis would praise the postal service writing in not the most enlightened rural districts of france is there an intellectual movement so rapid or on such a scale as in this wilderness. the effectiveness from the start. so that, as i say, rooted in american history, part of the communication that established us from going from colonies to a country. there for america's families to communicate, businesses to thrive, medicines to be delivered, now at this case time of an election, at the time of the pandemic, a safe way for people to vote. it's very important to shine a
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bright light on the postal system and to show our appreciation for what it's done. of nearly 100,000, 97,000 i think the number is, 97,000 veterans are employed by the postal service. so this, for us, is a joyous occasion to come together, to vote for the postal service, and to meet the needs of our people. our constituents, you can ask any member of coping across the country, democratic or republican, if they're hearing from their constituents on this subject. and they are. as we go forward then, just to note that tomorrow will be 100 days. today 99 days since we passed the heroes act. it's urgent, even more so than when we passed it, for us to have the values.
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this isn't a discussion about just dollars, it's about values and how we value the health and well-being of the american people, how we honor and value the work of our heroes, our health care workers, our first responders, our teachers, our teachers, our transportation, sanitation, food workers, all employed by the state and local government, and the big obstacle to our going forward is the attitude of the republicans, let the states go bankrupt and not fully coming to the table to support that. and of course, right now, as a grandmother and a mom of grandchildren in school and children who teach, we have -- we really have to make it safe for our children to go to school and that makes money, it makes money for distancing and more teachers, and bigger classrooms, or more classrooms, ventilation and the rest. out of the hundred biggest school systems, school
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districts in the country, over 75 of them are either 62 or virtual, another dozen or so hybrid. a small number actual. and our fight with the administration has been that all -- they want the bulk of the money only if you actually open up which is a small percentage of the biggest school districts in our country. so and who pays mostly for schools, but state and local government. so we can't have the firings that will incur if we don't fund state and local government to address the funds that they have spent, the outlays they have made on the coronavirus, and the loss of revenue, but more important than that, even, is the firing, the -- the firings that will occur, could be in the millions. already it's a million and a half, could be three and a half
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million more people fired and what does that do, but add to the unemployment ranks and what does that do, but hurt our economy. so in any event, this today is one piece of what we have in the heroes act. i'm not for splitting it up except this is an emergency and it has policy in it that was not in the heroes act. so i'm very proud of our members for coming back for this. and the course of the day i'll be meeting with them and we will talking about the justification, will measure, what justification scientifically, et cetera, that we're saying we need so much more money for education than the administration is ready to give. by what scientific basis are we justifying what we want for testing, tracing, treatment, distancing, et cetera. by what justification are we saying we need over $50 billion
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for child care. we're telling people that they have to go to work. they can't because they have a child who is not going to school, so child care is an answer in some of those cases. so the list goes on and we have put the justification for it, will do so more intensely as we negotiate an agreement that we must have for the american people. again, i'm sad about the state of california, but anytime a natural disaster hits, it's so sad and iowa is suffering so badly in all of this. i hope that as soon as we can, the federal government will be there to support what our members of congress there have been asking for. any questions? yes, ma'am. >> first of all, it looks like
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the republicans will not be supporting this bill and i'm wondering, if it does not go through, can you tell us are there any negotiations on the next covid package? is there any opportunity for this funding that you're seeking, you know, if this falls? and more is there anything you can tell us, what is the message to voters who may be concerned about the problems with the mail and wondering what they should do? should they go to the polls is this should they send their ballots through the mail? what's the advice? >> well, you have a three-pronged question there. first of all, let me say we will pass the bill and it will be in a bipartisan way today and then we will send it to the senate and let me just say that as i've always said, public sentiment is everything. they'll be hearing from their constituents because this hits home. not receiving your mail on a timely fashion hits home. not receiving your prescriptions, especially for
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our veterans hits home in a way that's harmful to our country as well. secondly, we're hoping that the need for us to go forward in terms of, we can open our economy if we have our testing. we can open our schools more safely if we have the point of care testing, tracing, treatment, et cetera. why they will not follow science is beyond me, but nonetheless, it's-- we have to make that case. and it's safer. as i said, it was 99 days since we've passed our bill. in that time of how many more people, it was 4.2 million more people have become infected. 4.2 million since we passed our bill. 88,000 more people have died,
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taking us past 175,000 people. you see the statements that are being made that if we wear masks, if 95% instead of 55%, of people wore masks, the lives that could be saved going forward, well, why don't we also learn from what has happened in the past when they said we're going to press the pause button. they forgot to tell the virus they were pressing the pause button. it didn't pause. so it's -- so we have to, we have to, we must absolutely have an agreement as we go forward that helps state and local government do their job to fight the coronavirus, to educate our children to do so in a way that is safe and again, honors our heroes, pass something that is sufficient in terms of crushing the virus. instead, they're crushing the affordable care act in court and the preexisting condition.
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so we have a -- this is not just about dollars and cents, it's about values and common sense. and then to the last point in terms of voting is that -- look, don't pay any attention to what the president is saying because it is all designed to suppress the vote. he's going to have law enforcement -- that's in their playbook. we've seen their playbook, it's in their playbook they'll have people intimidated to vote by having ice agents or other law enforcement there, to instill fear in people, why are they there. it's scary, but ignore that. eighths suppress the vote tactic, as is the suppressing of the ability of the postal system to deliver on its responsibility, to treat
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ballots as first class mail and to deliver in a timely fashion and not, and not ignore the need for over time, not ignore the fact that so many members of postal service have contracted coronavirus so need for temporary employees to fill that in, not ignore the -- he said very blatantly, i have no intention of replacing those mailboxes. i have no intention of replacing the machinery in the-- the sorting machinery, that, by the way, that by the way is an osha issue. gillian: you are listening to house speaker nancy pelosi there in a rare saturday appearance to do her weekly press conference. she's really making the case that the reason the democrats are pushing for this usps funding bill, additional supplemental money now is because of the coronavirus. she said this is a post office bill, but what it really is is a coronavirus bill to help
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people during this time. she says it's important that americans get their mail on time, number one, so that they can vote and have their vote counted in the 2020 election, the other is so they can receive medications and prescriptions through the mail that they are-- would otherwise get in person at the farmly. -- pharmacy. i want to bring back in the congressman. and you've been listening to the speaker. >> she hit the nail on the head. the united states postal service delivers in 16 days more than what ups and fed ex delivers in an entire year. that's because they have a universal service obligation. they have to service literally every address in the united states. and they do that without a single taxpayers' dollar. now, when we talk about them being underwater, that's just they have to fund their health care account in 75 years in 10
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years because after a law passed. and we passed that so the post office would be just like any other institution in the country and free up billions of dollars. it passed, in a bipartisan fashion in the house. it sits at the feet of mitch mcconnell. if that legislation passed, you would have billions of dollars available to the post office to prepare itself for the next century. so, right now, postmaster dejoy is stepping over dollars to pick up nickels in a simple narrative that he has to cut expenses when we know that's not the case. he's doing it for ulterior purposes. if he truly wanted to repair the postal service and save money, he would be calling mitch mcconnell and donald trump and say get that legislation passed, but he's not because we know why. gillian: congressman, thanks for standing by throughout that press conference from the speaker, thanks for your time today. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. leland we understand that mark meadows, the white house chief
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of staff, formerly the freedom caucus, he's up at capitol hill as well. he's going to be on fox news sunday to talk about the coronavirus relief package and the bill that was just passed. we'll get reaction from a member of the house republican caucus in just a minute. [ thunder rumbles ]
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uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. >> welcome back. it's a saturday in august and the house of representatives is in session to vote on a $25 billion spending bill for the post office. just a few minutes ago, speaker nancy pelosi made the case for this being as much of a coronavirus bill as a post office bill. republican congressman joins us now. a solid no on the bill we understand from your tweets, congressman, why? >> multiple reasons, $25 billion of which is just a part of it. look, as a member of the oversight committee and the ranking member of government operations, we have not even had a hearing on the post office since april of last year
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and yet, now, all of a sudden, this is an emergency to deal with. we had a briefing april this have year and dealt with how coronavirus is potentially going to cause some delivery to be delayed, which of course, as we all know it has been. leland congressman, i'm trying to understand the democrats' argument here. we had harley rouda on earlier saying that it's as american as apple pie and to deliver from the tooth fairy. despite mail-in voting we estimate that it will account less than 2% of mail volume. on any given day, they deliver millions of pieces of mail and yet in the hearing you talked about this is what a democrat had to say. take a listen.
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>> my colleagues, this is a five-alarm fire for our democracy. we need the boxes back, the sorting machines back, it's clear nothing will happen unless congress passes this bill. that's why it's urgent that we act immediately. leland can you square that circle? even you don't agree with it, do you understand the argument? >> no, it makes no sense. the post office 400 million plus pieces a day. if every single american voter went through mail, it would be a fraction of that number. so, the postal service is equipped to do it, but as i just had a lengthy conversation just yesterday with the post office master general and listen, under the obama-biden administration, they got rid of 14,000 of these blue boxes and we all know that postal delivery has changed over the last few years. the people aren't sending letters to the tooth fairy and to their neighbors, as the speaker mentioned, as much as they used to.
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and so things have changed. the sorting machines are only running at 35% capacity. so why in the world do we need machines where 65% of them are no longer even in operation? >> i should have made the point, letters to the tooth fairy, rather than letters from the tooth fairy. if they were from-- they've got the union contract. they've got the big unfunded liabilities-- funded liabilities to be fund the. and this the gao watch dog said. you it's been ott high risk list since 2009 due to its poor financial company which has worsened in recent years due to declining mail volumes and declining cause. while uspa may be able to-- if it took more aggressive action to cut costs, it would solve usps's problems unless
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congress took action. congress is basically a hammer to spend money and everything looks like had a nail. is there a way for congress to be a part of the solution for the post office which has real problems? >> well, not in the way that the democrats are now trying to do it. even the vote woo we a-- we haven't had a hearing on this and we had this on money and here we are on saturday. we're identifying information out of which legislation grows. this is all politics. this has nothing to do with an authentic attempt by democrats to address the reform issues that need to take place within the postal service and yes, those reforms need to take place. but this bill that we're going to be voting on here momentarily is going to throw $25 billion at the postal service without any reform whatsoever. it doesn't matter how much
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money you throw at a problem, it doesn't matter how much bailout money goes if there are no reforms to fix the problem that you never address it, that's what the democrats are doing. leland most organizations are more than happy to take money that congress throws at them. congressman, we appreciate you taking the time on a saturday and safe travels back home to georgia, sir. >>. leland: all the best. chris wallace as an interview with mark meadows who is interestingly enough on capitol hill. something that chris and mr. meadows will talk about, the chief they call him. and chris coons is also there. and talking to the senior advisor jason miller at 11 a.m. eastern. also, tomorrow night host of the next revolution, still hilton, has an interview with
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president trump that's 9 p.m. eastern. interesting parts of that conversation for sure, gillian. gillian: yeah, we have gotten a couple of clips already. it sounds like it was a pretty substantive interview. meanwhile, fire and rain are threatening coastal communities now. thousands of firefighters battling major fires in the west while two major storms in the caribbean gather strength and head towards the gulf coast. adam klotz is tracking those storms. adam. >> hey, gillian, yeah, this is going to be a unique situation. two tropical storms in the tropics right now. they're going to become hurricanes and they're going to be moving into the gulf of mexico at roughly the same time. i'm going to have the tracks of both of these storms coming up in my full forecast after the break.
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caribbean today. they're hammering puerto rico and the virgin islands with heavy rain and now they could pose a double threat to the gulf coast at the same time. adam klotz comes from the extreme weather center. >> kind of a unique situation, we have two tropical storms on the move, both likely to be hurricanes in the gulf coast at the same time within days. tropical storm marco at cancun, and passing by louisiana and approaching texas, late monday into tuesday. the timing of these are going to be really important. one is going to arrive sooner, that's marco, but in similar area. 45 miles per hour winds right now for tropical storm laura passing puerto rico as we speak, heavy rains in san juan. this storm is slower, but more time to strengthen. this is a stronger storm and getting into tuesday, late or
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wednesday by the time you're talking about landfall here, that one likely the coast of louisiana and i'm going to show you both of these at the same time and give awe better idea. tropical models you see marco arriving earlier, but just on its tail, laura following in behind it. that's going to be interesting to see how that plays out, but that's the setup running over very warm water. we're going to be paying very close to this one, gillian. gillian: all right, adam, thanks for that, we appreciate it. leland. leland: coming up, a russian opposition leader is in critical condition after a suspected poisoning attack. what people are saying about vladimir putin's possible role in this when we come back. it's time for the biggest sale of the year on the sleep number 360 smart bed.
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>> federal prosecutors have charged a former army green beret living in northern virginia with disclosing military secrets to the russian government. now, prosecutors say the espionage in question took place between 1996 and 2011 beginning when the suspect was an rotc student and continuing through his service in army special forces. this is the second time a former government official, u.s. government official has been charged with spying for a foreign country this week.
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>> the other one charged with spying for china. a russian opposition leader who many say was poisoned landed just hours going in berlin, germany for medical treatment, this as the kremlin denies any involvement, wishing him a quote, speedy recovery. kitty logan is live in london. why some are questioning the sincerity of their wishes. >> hi, leland. it's understood that navalny is in a coma. the last we heard from doctors in russia he was stable. he arrived in berlin on a special medical evacuation flight from russia. that's like organized by an activist group for peace. and they blamed the russian government not allowing this transfer to happen sooner. on arrival he was rushed to the hospital in the center of the city. it's berlin's biggest and most
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advanced hospital. specialists are evaluating navalny's condition. his supporters are worried about his health and we do not have an official diagnosis for doctors in berlin. and the doctors who had treated him for the past few days says his life is not in imminent danger, but he's not been stable sooner. but we understand that the coma he's in is an induced coma. navalny is a long time opponent of russian president vladimir putin. he collapsed on a flight last thursday after apparently drinking tea, which his supporters say was poisoned. now, we don't yet know for sure what happened. russian authorities say no poison was found in his body and that navalny has been suffering from low blood sugar, but of course, his supporters are not convinced by that and it's not the first time that political opponents of vladimir putin have been targeted. navalny himself has been
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detained by russian authorities several times before and he was barred from running in the 2018 election. so the staff at the hospital say they first have to make a series of tests. those tests will be discussed with immediate family. so we won't yet know exactly the prognosis of navalny. perhaps for more days to come. leland: it was chris wallace to asked vladimir putin why so many of his political opponents ended up dead. he had an interesting answer to that you might say. kitty logan from london. gillian has more. gillian: joining us to discuss this from hermitage out of london, bill browner. we now know that navalny has been transferred outside russia to this hospital in germany and he's still in a coma. a positive development that the government in russia allowed
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him to actually be transferred. is it going to save his life? >> well, they delayed it for two days. alexey navalny was poisoned on thursday morning. there was a medivac plane ready to take him friday morning and they stalled nor for an extra day when the plane flew to berlin. the purpose of that from the russians perspective by the time they get to berlin they won't be able to identify the poison because the poison will have broken down by then and that will make it harder to do an investigation no matter the outcome of his situation. gillian: so, you know, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and acts like a duck, 99% of the time it is a duck. but it bears questioning. how confident are we that this was a poisoning by the hands of russian government operatives? can you point to like specific
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evidence? >> well, so, it's designed so you can't point to specific evidence. and it's particularly designed that way for the purpose that putin can do these things to his enemies and he can talk out of one side of his mouth saying to all of his enemies, this is what will happen to you. and out of the other side of his mouth saying there's no proof that i've done anything. just look at the facts. alexand alexander, a spy who had plutonium, and a high court determined it was done by the russians probably at the direction of putin, and in the summer of 2018, a man and his daughter were poisoned and they said it was russian military intelligence. another political operative, opposition candidate was poisoned device in moscow.
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the anti-russian, the ukrainian president, was poisoned by dioxin. it's on and on and on, and they come up with this stuff. it would be absurd not to assume that it was poisoning and done by vladimir putin, particul particularly given the fact that alexey navalny is his main challenger. >> and navalny himself has been the target of russian operatives and doused recently with chemicals that partially blinded him in one eye. bill, we've got to leave it there. thanks for adding your perspective here. stick with us. we've got a lot more.
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♪ ♪ leland: the white house already threatening to veto house democrats postal service bill. this as lawmakers prepare to vote on legislation just a few hours from now. busy saturday here on an august in washington i'm leland vittert and gillian, they don't have a chance to veto vote for the president so who knows the senate will even pass it. it looks like it will indeed pass in the house. gillian: exactly, another hearing on monday and as some republicans wishing it would happen before they were called to vote.
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leland: yeah. gillian: you know, washington really beats to the sound of their own drum these days. leland: it's 20, there you go. gillian: it's 2020. great to be with you, leland, great to be with everybody at home, throughout the next hour we will monitor developments over on capitol hill for you. first, though, republicans are now gearing up for monday, big day, kicks off the rnc where they will officially renominate president trump, that's less than 48 hours away. rich edison over at 1600 pennsylvania avenue has the very latest for us, rich. >> good afternoon, gillian, now it's republicans' turn to navigate a convention in the middle of a global pandemic. republicans will end the week here with a presidential acceptance speech at the white house, though, planning to have speeches and events from all over the country. >> this is going to be a convention about real people, how this administration and
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their policies have made lives better and how people are looking forward to the next 4 years and what the vision is nor the next four years. this is going to be about america and not hollywood. >> would we see the president at the convention every day? >> yes, you will see the president every day. >> republicans have branded their convention honoringoring e great american story, charlotte is the initial convention site, republicans say they are implementing covid-19 restrictions, only 6 delegates from each state will conduct party business there, masks are mandatory and they've spaced chairs 6 feet apart. the full list of speakers is unclear though the trump campaign says first lady melania trump will speak tuesday, vice president mike pence is scheduled for wednesday. republicans will also broadcast speeches from across the country including auditoriums a few blocks from the white house and ford mchenry in baltimore. now the republican national committee looking to end their week of events and applied for a permit to launch fireworks after the president's speech.
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the ideas for that to take place in nearby washington monument. gillian. gillian: rich, thanks for that, leland. leland: democrats making preparations to counter message. hillary vaughn live in delaware with more on this, breaking tradition for both republicans an democrats during their opposing conventions, hi, hillary. reporter: hi, leland, one to have crisis that joe biden talks about is the economic crisis president trump has triggered. biden says he's the best person to get people back to work and businesses back online but he said in an interview with abc news that he would be willing to put the country back in quarantine and threatening to shut down if scientists say so. running and moving and theuntry
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economy growing and people employed you have to fix the virus. you to deal with the virus. >> so if scientists say shut it down? >> i would shut it down. reporter: democrats wrapped up convention week and they aren't taking next week off and they are flooding virtual air waves while republicans have convention. congressman val demings, senator cory booker, mayor paul gigot -- pete buttigieg but there are two names missing from the lineup, joe biden and kamala harris. a dnc was asked about biden's absence in the agenda. >> if he's not part of the counterprogramming, what does that mean? >> well, i think that you will see the biden campaign, they will be aggressively out there as well as the dnc. reporter: harris and biden are
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off the trail today and they have no publicly announced events for next week as of today, so their first week as party nominees, their schedule remains empty for now, leland. leland: interview that will be coming up tomorrow that we will see more. hillary, thank you so much. gillian. gillian: thanks, leland. citizens united president and trump 2020 senior adviser david boss and served as deputy communication director back in 2016, david, great to have you with us today. there's a consensus, there is a consensus, you may have heard among democrats in most of the media that this convention this past week, the democrats' convention was very well run, it went smoothly and that biden's closing speech was very good, maybe even great. the president was on with steve hilton and the interview is going to air later tonight but we've got some clips from it, even president trump admitted in
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that interview it was a pretty -- i don't want to misquote him, i believe it was a pretty decent speech. david: when you have all the time in the world to practice a speech hiding in your basement you can deliver a speech one time, it's not that difficult. you know, look, joe biden's convention was a -- it was for my vantage point it was low key. it's very hard without people and that's just regardless of what side you're on. it's very hard without the energy that comes with a convention so you give them a little bit of a break but this is -- this week compared to last week is all about our positive agenda for the american people and what we will be doing in the next 4 years. what are trump administration for the next 4 years means to the american people whether it's higher taxes or lower taxes, whether it is open borders or border security, whether it's law and order or anarchy in the streets. these are big issues that we are
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going to be talking about this week and making sure that american people understand the difference between last week's convention and what president trump and vice president pence will be telling, promising the american people what they will do for four more years. gillian: how worried are you about the fact -- now we don't have polling on this yet, seeing how -- we don't have fox news polling on how the american people responded to that but we will have it later this week, but we do know they brought in $70 million in four days and we also know that they brought in over 100 million viewers on tv and online, how worried are you about that? i'm not worried at all. president trump is absolutely in a position that -- where we are going to run the next campaign just like we did in 2016. it is going to be high energy and about volume, it's going to be about him, the president and
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vice president talking to the american people every single day and making sure those issues i just talked about are what the american people understand, when they're voting, what does america look like in ten years from now. is it a socialist nation under joe biden and his democrat croonies, and by the way, the party of john f kennedy is dead, the party of my parents and grandparents, that party is dead, it's the party of bernie sanders and aoc. let's be honest about it. they have a hard, hard road ahead because we are going to be talking straight to the american people about their bread and butter issues and what they believe is important thing, law and order and their paychecks, opening up the country and not closing it down. what joe biden said during the speech of i will close the country down, that's not what the american people want. gillian: you definitely have the home-game advantage here and the
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president has the power -- the power of incumbency and well known he will give acceptance speech from the white house but something else you have going for you is that you get to go second, meaning, if democrats have already done kind of the -- the tester here, have you picked up any tips from them or things you want to do or not do? >> you know what, it's a great point, going second in this atmosphere where there's virtual convention it did give you an opportunity and i think democrats changed their -- giving them credit they changed programming each night to make it better and we watched the same thing, what works and what doesn't work and i think that the team that the campaign has put together, it has -- it's just doing a tremendous job and it's going to be an exciting convention and exciting convention next week and i'm excited to be here in charlotte to help participate in officially renominating the president here on monday. gillian: well, we wish you luck with that.
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we will all, of course, be watching, david, thanks for your time today, we appreciate it. david: thanks for having me. leland: with us now democratic ohio congressman biden campaign surrogate tim ryan, member of house appropriation committee who is always early for interview and you got to hear the other side go first on this time, mr. bossie, earlier, the democratic party of his youth and parents of working-class is dead, do you agree? >> no, he hopes so and the fact that joe biden is the nominee, irish catholic, democrat and the areas i come from are working class like scranton, pennsylvania where joe biden comes from. he said i may be the democratic nominee and i will represent all americans even though who didn't vote for me. there's a sense of healing, there's a sense of patriotism, really of coming together -- leland: congressman, you both and i both -- congressman, reasonable people can agree who
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all watched the dnc over the past four days last week, there wasn't a lot of talk of reaching out to working-class white voters in ohio, in michigan and wisconsin and western pennsylvania, the voters who switched from obama in '08 to trump in 2016, that wasn't what you had in mind? congressman: i don't think so. having republican governor from ohio was very, very important which is a working-class, blue-collar mid western state. i think the round tables that joe biden had with labor leaders from across the country is focused on bread and butter issues. the dignity of work, i think he spoke directly to those workers. they hope he didn't but he did. leland: 2018 worked for democrats when they won back the house in a landslide, but they didn't focus on donald trump in 2018, they focused on household
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issues primary health care issues, not the social issues and not the culture war, that seem to dominate the dnc? congressman: well, i think that's wrong. leland: okay. congressman: joe biden was talking about the dignity of work and getting people back to work, the struggles that the american people are having right now, starting with getting pandemic right so we can get the economy going, build back better, cutting in -- working-class people cutting them on the deal but also dominating the industries of the future around electric vehicles, batteries, charging stations that's how you rebuild the middle class. trump has had 4 years to do it and hasn't done a lick on those issues, let the pandemic run its course and so we have a lot of problems. leland: we could debate how well green energy subsidies work, it didn't work so well with cilindra back in 2009. you may be right that the message is resinating with working-class voters and you take the home state of ohio
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right now, the rcp average, biden 47, trump 44 point, a state that the president won back in 2016 and then there was this article that just dropped from "the new york times", a glimmer a hope for trump, how bush mounted a comeback in 1988, one of the pictures of then nominee michael decaucus, campaign was leading for victory, heading for victory, mr. bush won 40 states and the presidency. congressman: well, you know, mr. bush was riding the cocktails of reagan who was popular. that was to his advantage. mr. trump's disapproval at 42%, you take states like ohio, he attacked and wanted to lead a boycott of goodyear tire. 2,000 workers in ohio with ripple effect of 20,000 jobs and he wants to use his power, his
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90 million people who follow him on twitter to boycott an american company. those are disastrous things that the president has done. i think he's bleeding and i think he's going off the rails. i think you will see biden's numbers jump. you can laugh all you want. leland: no, no. you're attacking an american company and boycott in middle of a recession in global pandemic, that's disastrous. leland: you pointed out to the polls as they are right now in ohio. we wait to see what the bounce the vice president gets out of the convention. we should have those in the next couple of days and we see how things come together as september kicks off. congressman, we appreciate your time on a sad, we know you took away from house floor and even more time to be here to hear the interview before you, we appreciate it, sir, all the best. congressman: thanks for having me. leland: thank you. gillian: wild fires are raging once again in the state of california. this time amid a record heat wave, the fires forcing tens of
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thousands of residents from their homes. christina coleman live from la with the latest. christina? christina: more than 100,000 people have been ordered to evacuate and right now at least 560 fires are burning in the state right now at the same time. now together these wild fires have burned more than 991 square miles statewide, they involve two of the largest fires in the state's recorded history. they destroyed more than 500 homes and other buildings and threatened thousands of others, unprecedented lightening storms seize bay area and there were more than 12,000 lighting strikes over 72-hour period this week including over 100 yesterday. the ellen lighting complex involve fires in 5 counties, those fires burns 214,000 acres and only 15% contained.
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the seu lighting complex started 3 days ago with 20 separate fires, they merged and burned more than 291,000 acres so far and they're only 10% contained. fires from the seu and nlu complexes, two of the largest fires in the state's recorded history and more than 12,000 firefighters are trying to get the flames under control, ten states are sending more personnel and equipment to assist in those efforts and the governor, governor gavin newsom is reaching tout canada and australia for additional help and also national guard is providing helicopter support to help crews get the fires urn control with so many of them burning at the same time. gillian. gillian: christina coleman, stay safe, leland. leland: mr. mayor, we appreciate you for being was. it seems as though no part of
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california is safe from this and critics of the policies out there will say it's all preventible with controlled burns and little bit different policies, is that a fair criticism? >> well, certainly we engage in control burn in forest areas, today in fact, last year the horrible fire over paradise, forest management did engage in control burnts but 19 times more forests is controlled by the federal government in california than by state and local government so if there's going to be controlled burn activity and better management it really needs to start with the federal government. leland: understandable that one of the things that's making this so much harder and making it so much worse is the heat wave that's taking over so much of california. that's also the heat wave also leading to blackouts throughout california and there's a lot of discussion that the reason of those blackouts is because of the push for green energy in california, means there's simply
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not enough backup power of coal and natural gas to feed the grid. i know that there have been blackouts during the state. here is what one resident had to say about the blackouts, take a listen. >> we try to sleep in the backyard and, of course, we had our little thunderstorm on saturday night which didn't help anything at all, so it was just sweat and grim. leland: california wants to be 100% renewable, some don't have reliable power, time to rethink all of that? >> well, the blackouts that we had in san josé, in my city, more than a quarter million residents suffered from this blackout in a city of a million, none of them had to do with supply of energy and interrogating blackouts, all of them had to do with inadequate infrastructure that pg&e is failing to replace. that's a corporate decision that needs to be made to invest in infrastructure and ensure there's reliability.
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in my city we have a much higher rate of use of renewable than in throughout the rest of the northern california because we have community choice energy program and, in fact, we have not had any problems with supply. leland: pg&e is not been having a good couple of years, have they, sir? >> no, sir. leland: last question for you, you talk about renewable and supply isn't the issue but infrastructure is the issue, there seems to be larger issue in california that's leading the way in green energy, but you're having blackouts, you don't think that the regulations have anything to do with that? >> there's no question that regulators could be doing a much better job and we need to be doing more investing in energy storage in particular to ensure that we have reliable energy and obviously more resilient energy sources. leland: the storage right now is
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expensive. it would be cheaper if you fire up coal plant, isn't it? >> it comes in form of climate change and you see him pact with drying of vegetation and cities like miami they see impact with rising water levels in the streets of their city. this is a very costly path if we want to continue go down the path of oil and gas. leland: former governor there sometimes keeping the lights on and also fighting climate change is occasionally in opposition of each other. mayor, we appreciate your time and glad you took some of it as you're fighting the fires out therement god speed to you and the firefighters out there. >> thank you and we are grateful for the thousands of firefighters putting their lives in harm's way. leland: appreciate it.
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>> thank you. gillian: a whole host of cost-saving measures over at usc have been underway for several weeks now. the removal of hundreds of mail sorting machines, post office boxes is drawing public outcry. the agencies says they may have enough set in november when it comes to getting things done on timey . what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ noticks and fleas?o simplifies protection. see ya! heartworm disease? no way! simparica trio is the first chewable that delivers all this protection.
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reform which dejoy delayed until after the election and the bill isn't specific as to how postal service must spend $25 billion. >> in the face of extraordinary public pressure and action by this majority, the post master general promised to halt further changes until after election day. but i have to tell you, i wouldn't trust this administration to tell me the correct time. >> now this bill has nothing to do directly with coronavirus aid, white house chief of staff mark meadows is, in fact, here. he's been pushing the so-called skinny coronavirus bill, house speaker nancy pelosi last hour called the white house, house wish list deficient and when referring to meadows she called him what's his name. that was her exact quote there. back to you, leland. leland: she also talked about the tooth fairy, so there was that, chad on capitol hill, chad, thank you.
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gillian. gillian: good-old what's his name never disappoints. joining us to break this all down formerly post office general, i want to get to some of the nitty gritty stuff here, so let's start out with the removal of the post offices that we have seen across the country as well as pulling to have mail-sorting machines. from your perspective, are these sort of standard routine cut- cut-cutting measure or look toty rail the 2020 election? >> two things, the other is the optics of it coming up with an election coming and with the postmaster general who has been friendly with the president who has been knocking the postal service. the postal service has been
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removing collection boxes an putting collection boxes out over the years. it's a routine kind of thing. doing it right before an election, probably not the best thing optically but operationally it's not a problem. you can put a letter in your mailbox and the carrier will take it, that's part of what the postal service does and in terms of sorting machines, there has been a plan in place to eliminate a lot of these machines for some time. again, was it a great time to be doing it, hard to -- hard to agree with that, but at the same token, the postal service has seen dramatic increases in the number of packages. these machines take up a lot of space. they're not needed and if they were taken out it provides more space to sort packages like mail-order pharmaceutical, and so it made a lot of sense and
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they had specific plans, it's not removing every piece of equipment and keeping redundancy in over location but does make sense -- the problem was lack of communication i think to the hill and to the public and the timing of it. gillian: well, yeah. so john, to that point, the guy in charge of all of this over at the post office, dejoy, testified friday, take a listen to what he said he did have conflicting messages about where usps is right now, listen. >> the organization needs to move forward, we have to, without any legislation or assistance we will run out of money. >> as we head into the election season i want to assure this committee and the american public that the postal service is fully capable and committed to delivering the nation's election mail securely and on time. gillian: so what do we take away
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from that? >> i'm not 100% sure but sounds like two different things. commitment that the postal service will deliver for the election season and number 2, at some point they've got to proceed in doing these things if they're going to reduce cost in order to remain financially viable. gillian: he said they are running out of money. >> yes, they are, they have about $13 billion in cash. given the amount of money that they spend and salaries and benefits, without any additional revenue that would last about a month. now, in fact, they have revenue coming in from the sales of stamps, et cetera, but the fact is that the postal service has got financial problems. the airlines were bailed out but the postal service lost most commercial airlines to be able to fly mail and they had to go out and contract with freight airlines to be able to haul mail
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at larger prices. no help for the postal service but help for everyone else and doesn't seem right. gillian: yeah, certainly the idea that they would run out of funding in a month is heartening when we have general election coming up with tens of millions of americans more than normal who are going to be relying on vote by mail. john, we have to leave it there, we will bring you back as if you're so gracious to continue tracking the issue. >> okay. leland: last night another night of rioting in portland. what these images will mean come november? ♪ ♪
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gillian: authorities declaring a riot in portland as hundreds of people clash with police right outside a precinct last night. bryan llenas is in new york with more on that bryan.
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>> for the 85th consecutive night, riots continued in portland oregon. last night into early this morning police declaring a riot outside of the north precinct there in downtown portland. a crowd of 150 to 200 rioters badly damaging police patrol vehicles and even vandalizing a boys and girls van and projectiles thrown at officers, eggs, golf balls, balloons and feces. now meanwhile the fbi is continuing to investigate a car bomb threat made against federal offices throughout portland on friday, forcing the fbi to close their offices. also friday, portland police arresting 25-year-old marquise lover facing 3 federal charges including assault. love is accused of repeatedly
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bunching and kicking a truck driver on sunday night in downtown portland in a disturbing attack caught on video. adam haner kicked in the head and knocked unconscious suffering broken ribs an bruising. he and his girlfriend stopped at convenience store and tried to help a woman who was being attacked and robbed an that's when the crowd turned on them. haner has marched before with black lives matter protest but this incident well, was far different. >> i thought that's what they were there trying to fight, was this kind of behavior towards them but they are exhibiting the same behavior that they are trying to stop. reporter: you can watch the rest of that interview tonight with jesse watters in watters world at 8:00 p.m., leland. gillian: bryan llenas live in new york city, thank you. leland: violence in portland and we also have a spike in violent crime in a number of u.s. major
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cities. we bring radio talk show host south carolina candidate for state senate josh kimel, josh, good to see you as always, do these images from portland make a difference come november? >> well, leland, good to be with you again neither you nor i were alive in 1968. you and i will catch it on the second go around because it's 1968 and if you flash back to 1968, the dnc took place in chicago, a city that's being rocked by violence and -- and the left-wing of the democratic party sided with the violent protestors against the police and the military and in november richard nixon defeated hubert humphrey by a landslide victory. i frankly believe here 52 years later we are looking at a similar circumstance. the left side -- leland: is there -- is there a reason to make a distinct between the
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antipolice violence that you see in portland, antiauthoritarian antifa violence and then what we are seeing in chicago and have seen which is out now criminality, looting, gang violence, shooting is up, not much to do with the police with as much as lawlessness. >> i think there's some difference but also a correlation. whenever you see the police demonize and undermine and you see local officials whether it's mayors or governor or city councilmen undermining local police it encourages this kind of behavior because one thing that's incumbent between chicago and portland, leland, in both places folks that are innocent caught up in, bystanderrers, protestors are violent ones and trying to provoke by firebombing city hall and attacking police cruisers. leland: african-american republican congressional candidate out of baltimore made the point the other similarity
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between chicago and portland is that they both have democratic mayors and have for a while. this video out of portland has been making rounds on social media, take a look. [shouting] [inaudible] leland: these are noise protestors going through neighborhoods in portland that they say enjoy too much white privilege and quiet, so they want to bring a little bit of the festivities from downtown out to the suburbs. it brings up a larger point, though, where -- where is the police's line and ability to step in come with this because these are peaceful protestors at least from the video that we see right there? >> well, look, the first amendment has to be protected and that's the balance here. you have to protect the first amendment and people that will peacefully protest and you're not trying to attack people or property or business or law enforcement agencies. we have to support that but when
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people are breaking down neighborhood gates and breaking into people's backyards and attacking city hall and dragging people out of trucks an beating them within inch of their lives, that isn't peaceful protest, that's what americans are worried about. like you see stuff that you described in suburban communities and you start to see people that formally don't pay attention to politics suddenly wake up and say, we are losing the country, it changes the dynamics dramatically come november. leland: real quick, charleston in your home state saw own share of violence right at the beginning of the george floyd protest and that ended pretty quickly. how were the police able to get a handle on it? >> well, i think in south carolina as a whole charleston, we have a long support of law enforcement culture and our u.s. senator tim scott, great leaders have been calming voice and saying, look, you can support the idea of police reform, protecting everybody's life but at the same time support the police, support law enforcement, we've just got a special
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environment in south carolina that's provided for community dialogue versus just burning out store fronts and having violence in the streets and that's because we don't take a left-wing antipolice approach to addressing these problems. leland: as you point out tim scott, your senator there has been integral in the conversation in many ways and provided a lot of unique perspectives. josh, i appreciate your time as always, thank you, sir. >> good to be with you. leland: you too. gillian: stick around because coming up next we have much-needed good news out of washington, the national zoo celebrating arrival of a new very special family member. we will tell you how mom and baby are doing coming up next
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little hard to see, healthy cub, david spunt, closer look at the story here. hi, david. david: hi, leland, i decided to put on a tie today for the arrival of the cub. we don't know the cub's name, we actually don't know if it's a male or female but we know the mother is doing well as well as baby cub. the mother's name is mayshan and it's tradition to visit pandas at national zoo and we want to show you live pictures, although it's difficult to see every now and then you can get a quick peek of the cub and mom hides it which is probably pretty normal. panda gave birth at 6:35 in the evening, zoo staff say mayshan picked up the cub and started carrying for it. staff will know more about the cub in a few days. maysha has given birth to 3 other cubs, the oldest born in
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2005. they lever the zoo and move back to china when they are h -- 4 year's old as part of an agreement to that country. >> the oldest panda to give birth. it's a miracle in a way and so he's a covid miracle. >> also what's interesting is zoo coopers and staff members, they can't even get to the little panda cub for several days because the mom may get a little defensive, you can certainly understand that so they are leaving mom and baby alone right now. good news with all of the bad news in the world, this is good news, a new panda cub that will be hanging out at the national zoo in dc, leland. leland: worth celebrating good moments even in 2020 they still do exist. gillian. gillian: well as the coronavirus pandemic continues to ravage
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leland: killed at least 6 people and hundreds of homes have been destroyed, ten states are joining the fight against the flames by sending aircraft and firefighters. we are tracking two tropical storms laura and marco which could strike the gulf coast next week. both storms are picking up strength and making landfall of category 1 hurricanes an still watching capitol hill as lawmakers voting on a 25 billion-dollar bailout to the postal service and how democrats are pushing months before the election and the white house is already threatening a veto. ♪ ♪ gillian: one of the nation's leading insurance providers for the military, that's usaa is working the bring america together now by committing $30 million to assist service members, veterans and their families who have been hit hard by the pandemic. we are going to bring in usaa's ceo wayne peacock, thanks for joining us today. tell us about the project that you guys have cooking.
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>> well, gillian, thanks for letting us share important news of military relief initiative. you know, we know that everyone has been impacted by the pandemic but military families especially. over 200,000 of our troops and 20,000 national guards personnel were deployed today and unemployment rate is about 30% so stress on military families is intense. we've announced this week that we will donate $30 million to support that effort. 20 million of that we will send to military mutual aid society where they will get low-interest loans and other grants to service members in need and the other 10 million will go out to other charities and nonprofits that are supporting military resilient efforts around the country. gillian: you know, it's amazing something that i think most of us don't think about that often, but when it comes to fighting for america during this
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pandemic, we are asking a lot of service members not only to put lives on the line and defend america and to do so in the middle of one of the worst pandemics in modern history, stress, strain of that must be tremendous. >> well, thinking about everyone today facing child care and school issues and have to do that as a single parent because your spouse is off somewhere defending our freedom, one, it's incredible sacrifice both from spouse and military member and i hope everyone here in america is thankful for this sacrifice that they give every day. but we know it is a tremendous burden on them and we are calling on, you know, everyone who would like to help to be able to participate with us. you know, it's easy to give. if you want to help us you can go to ussa.com/coronavirus. if you need to apply for aid or support, you can do the same thing there on usaa's website or directly with mutual aid
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society. gillian: awesome, for our viewers that want to get involved go online. thanks for the work that you're doing, we appreciate it. >> for all of the folks fighting fires today out there today, thank you for that, we are getting ready for two hurricanes as we know. it's a tough we are working our way through, thanks, gillian, stay safe. gillian: you know, thanks, wayne. leland: 4 more months of 2020 to go. [laughter] gillian: thanks for that reminder. leland: hey, you know what it's saturday, end it on a high note. the house is still voting, live coverage of that throughout the afternoon. we will see if we hear from the president. gillian, great being with you, we will see you back here tomorrow. (announcer) now more than ever, it's important to lose weight,
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