>> trace: sandra, about the busiest "newsweek" i've seen. or to be with you. >> sandra: you, too, trace. have a good weekend. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: thousands of people gathering in the nation's capital to mark the 57th anniversary of the march on washington. that's when martin luther king jr. delivered his famous "i have a dream" speech. it was 1963. this, after the police shooting of jacob blake and the deaths of george floyd, breonna taylor, and others. civil rights activists from around america are rallying against police brutality and what they call a commitment march, entitled "get your knee off our nexts." kevin corke 's life at the lincoln memorial. you've heard the expression,

"say their names." you just mention several of them. people here want you to know about george floyd. sandra bland, eric garner, and others. you mentioned jacob blake, his father is also here. many of the families of those who have died or have been injured in police engagements are obviously here today to speak, and according to organizers, they are hoping to encourage people to come together, to push together to end the violence between communities and law enforcement. there are a number of people, as i step out of the camera's way so you can see what's happening, a number of folks who would say, "listen, these things don't happen in a vacuum." it's often the result of other behaviors. regardless of how you look at it, thousands are here in the nation's capital on a sweltering day, trying to reclaim history. he mentioned it, 1963. dardedr. martin luther king jr.s

famed march on washington. they're hoping to -- >> harris: all right, we were having some technical difficulties with kevin corke's shot there, but you got the spirit of the day. we will continue to cover what happens on the washington mall as the day moves forward. taking another live look now as we get kevin back, right in this moment, terrific. if not, we will move on to other news of the day. in fact, there's another fox news alert now. president trump accepting the republican nomination for president in a historic speech on the south lawn of the white house last night. for more than an hour he touched on themes including american greatness, taking off his administration's accomplishments, and he laid out some plans for a second term. the president also laid into joe biden, telling americans this is the most important

election in our country's history. >> this election will decide whether we save the american dream or whether we allow a socialist agenda to demolish our cherished destiny. joe biden is not a savior of america's sole. he is the destroyer of americans jobs. biden is a trojan horse for socialism. make no mistake. if you give power to joe biden, the radical left will defund police departments all across america. joe biden is weak. he takes his marching orders from liberal hypocrites. >> harris: and the former vice president hit back at the president, including this tweet. "when donald trump says tonight you will see joe biden's america, just look around. how safe do you feel in

donald trump's america?" hours before the speech, kamala harris with this prebottle. >> the republican convention is designed for one purpose. to soothe donald trump's ego. it is supposed to be about the health and the safety and the will being of the american people. on that measure, donald trump has failed. >> harris: you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. fox business anchor, dagen mcdowell. host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy. in the center virtual seed, fox news analyst and fox nation host, lawrence jones. great to see everybody on this fine friday. lawrence, i'll start with you. a couple things going on. we had kevin corke's report, so we know there was a moment on washington that blend both histd

present and future, and the rnc wrapping last night looking ahead of the future, the way that president trump wants americans to know. >> lawrence: yes, and i am there with them in spirit. i have family members that are there today. i have family members who were there 57 years ago. to the president's speech, this was an interesting speech, because i would say this is a halfway mark between how trump is at a rally versus him delivering a state of the union. but there were several moments where he really made the case against joe biden. one particularly caught my eye, he said something that got me. he said, "joe biden is not the savior of america. he is the destroyer of americans jobs." he also said, "how can democrats lead our country when they spend so much time tearing it down?" i really think that will be the defining moment of this election, when it comes down to

jobs, american safety, and it comes down to the ideas of america. it is one thing to work at america's imperfections. it is one thing to fundamentally want to change the structure of america and the founding of america. it is true to say that america got some things wrong when it came to a historical standpoint, but it's the ideals of america that helped us get to this point, to where we are at right now. and it is one argument that people say right now, that it seems like democrats want to tear that down. it was a compelling case, it was a long speech, but he definitely had some jobs that joe biden. >> harris: kennedy, how do you think the president did? was he effective in reaching out maybe some areas that he needs to work on? even his team, his campaign team, have acknowledged that women, particularly educated women, women in the suburbs, people sometimes you'll hear him talking to, was effective in

reaching out to them last night? >> kennedy: i agree with lawrence, i think the speech could have used a nice edit. but he did touch on some really important parts and drew some contrasts that were very necessary if republicans are going to make the case that the president deserves four more years. it was measured, and he did also tied joe biden to bernie sanders. i think that's really smart and also very honest. joe biden and his campaign have given over a lot of the philosophical platform to bernie sanders. perhaps that is a way to bridge the gap between the progressives and the establishment democrats, but it is terrifying if you look at the economic future of the country. i think that the most important parts that were made throughout the week whereby people who know the president, who basically said to voters who were on the fence, including vice president pence and ivanka,

they said, "yeah, he's got some issues. we know he tweets too much, he drives people crazy. but he will maintain future economic security." and they are acknowledging that people may have an issue with the president's personality, but what they are selling is, "we know the guy, we like the guy, and the country is in better hands with him." >> harris: so, dagen, it would seem things have changed a little bit just in terms of where we are with people in the streets. some peaceful protesters, some rioters and criminals. we have had another death at the hands of police, and that's under investigation. we will wait for the results on that. it has, in fact, in kenosha, wisconsin, ignited a new round of anger in the streets. my big question now, who is watching the convention? and whether or not those people that say they want to change or are paying attention to the president to see what his change might look like. look, you never know where

change can come from. will they vote for anybody? >> dagen: certainly independents were paying attention. lee carter does her dial of the response of people watching these speeches, and the independents were moving right along with republicans. i will note in the cbs ugov poll, he was up over ten percentage points above joe biden among independents. that gives you a sense of some additional benefits that president trump might get from the republican convention. the one thing i really want to quickly say in terms of the protests, the mayhem was on full display after the rnc wrapped up last night, and to senator kamala harris who said the republican convention is designed for one purpose, to soothe donald trump's ego, i would say these two words. and dorn. her speech last night was the most powerful. she came out and spoke in the

memory of what happened to her husband, captain david doran, who was murdered in st. louis. his execution was live streamed. a career police officer. you haven't heard condemnation from much of the left, for much of the left-wing liberal media, about his murder. because it didn't benefit them politically. so, let's call this what it is. the outrage you are hearing from the left as they think they can gain from it, or they think they are being hurt by their lack of voice. that violence. after the convention last night, you had elderly couples -- an elderly couple that was harassed in the open, caught on camera. you had senator rand paul, we will about that. the congressman, a combat veteran, a purple heart recipient, a -- >> harris: a democrat, vernon jones and his wife. >> dagen: exactly. this could be a pivotal moment,

because if voters keep seeing this, the tide will turn against biden-harris and all democrats. >> harris: melissa, before we have to go, how does the president do on selling the economy last night? >> melissa: so, i mean, i want to kind of build on what dagen said for a second, though. i think when i run into all the regular people in my life today, hearing from them online or in emails, or whatever, they weren't really focus on with the president said, but what all of the real people that got out there and spoke. a politician may promise you anything in order to get reelectioreelected. they wanted to show us instead of telling us with the president had done. the president came out, and they talked about how he impacted their lives. they were filled with gratitude. they said thank you. whether it was kayla mueller's parents, who talked about how things could have been different under this president, how he's working on their behalf, or

ann dorn was when he struck the biggest cord. or even the mom who was out there, who said she had a special needs child, and that she got credit in order to take her child to a different school where they were really helping him. these are all real people we can relate to who don't have an agenda, who are not trying to get power, and that was a genius move. more than the president's speech, i think that had the biggest impact this week. >> harris: you mentioned alice johnson, prison reform was talked about last night. i always bring up the economy, because that's what people say they vote most on. all right, we'll move on. federal prosecutors have announced dozens of arrests in portland, oregon, as people in the streets there may be shifting their tactic, some of them, after months of unrest. >♪ >> harris: and a tense scene

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>> melissa: for the first time in weeks, police in portland did not declare a riot or an unlawful assembly last night. protesters marched through the streets in relative peace and did not attack buildings or officers. meantime, portland police releasing startling new numbers showing they've made nearly three times as many arrests in august as july. the u.s. attorney for oregon

announcing 74 people now face federal charges related to the protests that have gripped portland for over three months. that u.s. attorney saying, "violent agitators have hijacked any semblance of first amendment-protected activity, engaging in violent criminal acts and destruction of public safety. they not only delay real reform, but make our community less safe by keeping law enforcement from responding to other critical calls for service." kennedy, is this the approach they should have taken from the beginning? why do you think it took them so long to get a hold of the situation, after originally appeasing the crowd? >> because they are political eunuchs. that is the reality. they have compromised other people's freedom in a search for something that they are going to get the opposite of. instead of having include criminal justice and law enforcement reform, they are going to get more law enforcement with no reforms

at all. ron wyden, the senator from oregon, has pointed this out, and rightly so. what's going on in portland, perhaps the best campaign video for the reelect trump-pence committee. they couldn't have crafted a better narrative if they tried, and i think it is starting to dawn on public officials that it is not only a bad optic, but it also will hurt the city long term, because people will not want to move there and start businesses, and tourists will not want to go there. this is totalitarian bullying. this is not how you exercise a constitutional freedom, which should be the aim. >> melissa: so, lawrence, you've heard democrats reading from their talking points over the last few days, as it seems like all of this chaos is beginning to hurt joe biden in the polls. you've heard them say on this show and everywhere else, number

one, "you can't lay all of this at the feet of joe biden, he's nowhere around." they also say, as he heard kamala harris say, "you don't think you'll be safe and joe biden's america? look out the window, you're not safe and donald trump's america." while that argument work? >> lawrence: no, it's not going to work. i think the proof is in the pudding. if their cities argue that republicans should be competing in the cities, to take over them, to offer alternatives to these voters, but right now is under the control of the democrats. i'm sorry, it shouldn't take the federal government coming in to make peace in these communities. we live in a republic. the local communities should take this -- they should take the lead on this, but they're not. as a result, they're having to step in and make peace in the community. i do think it's a campaign that for the trump administration. at the end of the day, as i continue to say, all these other

issues -- i'm not saying they don't matter, i'm not saying that health and the economy don't matter. but people are going to pick their safety over any other issue every single time. it just seems problematic to me that democrats now are just now discovering that the polls are going to change. what about just doing the right thing? >> melissa: so, harris, we've heard that argument from democrats all week. this is trump's america, where you are seeing all this violence. president trump tweeting back saying, "success. since the national guard moved into kenosha, wisconsin, two days ago, there's been no further violence. out even a small problem. the federal government will act quickly and succeed. are you listening, portland?" this was the president tweeting a short time ago, saying, "look, ask for my help, i'll be there in a second and we can solve the problem. >> harris: i want to go back to lawrence and what he was just saying. his job is it to quiet the streets? the president has stepped in on

more than one occasion. in fact, i've talked with local officials in kansas city who said at first they weren't sure if they want all that help, and at the end they were glad they got it because it actually worked. it's kind of the job of the local officials. this is an unusual messenger, but this line resonated with me last night. dana white, the president of usc, gave his speech. in that, there was a call and a warning on how moving forward, republican voters, independents, those who decide to back president trump, look down-ticket. >> lawrence: that's right that's right. >> harris: because those are the people on the ground who have been given the responsibility to shore up what you see, and they have abdicated that responsibility be it in fact, didn't just step aside. potentially made it worse. some of those local leaders were telling police to stand back, stand down. remember, that was the early days. come on, that was like 90 days ago. it feels like it was six months

ago. not long ago, police officers not able to do their jobs. which exacerbates the problem. it gives criminals a chance to say, "oh, i don't even have to lurk. i can flat out do this." which robs everybody of the message. we don't hear from the protesters. by the way, what satiate them? are they still going to be in the streets at christmas? we haven't really learned much more about what they want. i could go on about this, but the bottom line is, yes, the president has stepped in, and, yes, at times it's been met with "we don't want that," and then yes, then it works out. who is your mayor, who is your governor? who is on your to be 25? >> melissa: you are talking about this before, a scary situation in washington were protesters swarm senator rand paul and his wife after they left the white house. following the speech, the kentucky senator nearly

stumbled, then they chase them to the hotel. protesters were seen heckling and harassing guests leaving the white house grounds. the senator thanking the police for saving him and his wife, kelly, but also noting the irony. listen to this. >> they were shouting threats to us, to kill us, to hurt us, but they're also saying, "say her name, breonna taylor." it's like, you couldn't reason with this model, but i'm the author of the breonna taylor law. so the irony is lost on these idiots that they're trying to kill the person who's actually trying to get rid of no-knock reads. >> melissa: they were threatening his life, they were threatening his wife's life. we've heard so much about peaceful protesters, but it seems like every time you look at these videos, and the other families, as well, they are threatening, they are pushing. there's nothing peaceful about this. this is actually fascism when you are screaming at people and threatening to hurt them unless

they caved to your point of view. what are your thoughts? >> dagen: in washington, d.c., over the past several days, it's crystallizing and bringing into focus what people are voting for come november. because, again, you see diners out in washington, d.c., with people this close to their face. you want to talk about fascism? we will leave you alone if you raise your hand like it is a heil to hitler. that's essentially the message. i will read about what the congress and said when people confronted him last night. "they thought i would be an easy target because my prosthetics move slowly. they were wrong." i think the central question here we need an answer to his who is paying these people. that's when it stops. when the paychecks stop showing up. >> melissa: lawrence, i heard you agreeing. if you watch other channels, they call these people "mostly

peaceful protesters." but if you go online and look at any of the videos that are being posted, it is very threatening and menacing and terrifying. what are your thoughts? >> lawrence: well, not at night. as you know, i've been on the ground reporting. i can't go to portland because antifa -- fox security won't let me go. melissa, you made the point, it's about caving to their ideology. in the words of bernie sanders, rand paul wrote the damn bill, okay? he's been the one member of congress, as far as the senate, that has stood up against the state. whether it's immunity, whether it's the breonna taylor act, whether it's the fisa court, any time there's an abuse of power, there's been one guy in the senate that has been going in, and mike lee backs him up. they don't even know what they stand for. they don't even know what's behind these bills, which is why

i say, you got to lock this stuff down. you got to lock it down. this has nothing to do with ideology, it has to do with violence. >> melissa: and it is ironic, because this was the scene that came last night after the president's show, and it sort of added to it. it made his point that this is what's happening in our streets. joe biden planning to get back on the campaign trail, we hear. to meet swing state voters for the first time in weeks. whether this is long overdue for the democratic nominee. ♪ ta-da! did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ introducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this.

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separately i should have said "the shooting of jacob lake." clearly jacob lake, blessedly so, is still with us. we are watching for the new information on his store in kenosha, wisconsin. for anybody who might have heard my words and they weren't clear, i wanted to make them clear. we move on. democratic presidential nominee, joe biden, says he plans to resume in person campaigning after labor day, with stops in key battleground states of arizona, minnesota, pennsylvania, wisconsin, and, during a virtual fund-raiser yesterday, he said he misses shaking hands with voters, but also made sure to say he will abide by all covid-19 guidelines. saying, "what we are working on is how i get out. i'm going to be traveling throughout the country where i can do it, consistent with the state rules about how many people can be assembled." president trump and his campaign have been critical of biden for staying at his home in delaware.

the term team even putting up billboards in milwaukee, asking, "where's joe?" dagen, i come to you on this. you know, this was kind of somewhere, people were laughing maybe at the beginning. but it helps to be out there among the people when you start to see the sort of people that are protesting and in the streets, and you are absent from that, and even absent from that conversation. >> dagen: joe biden and kamala harris claim to represent and have the interest of real workers in their hearts and their policies, then they need to be out there like the real workers. i'm talking about people who have been stocking store shelves, delivering our food, bringing up our groceries, who have literally been working every day during this pandemic, carefully, wearing protective gear, but they've been out there. president trump won wisconsin,

pennsylvania, and michigan combined by less than 78,000 votes, so maybe joe biden does want to keep those states on his list, because we know what happened with hillary clinton in wisconsin, and the fact that she didn't even show up there. >> harris: so, lawrence, you know it is complicated, though. joe biden hasn't even been doing a lot of sitdown interviews. we saw him yesterday, we heard from them yesterday, he made some gaffes, and it's good to get practice. because you play like you practice. >> lawrence: well, i'm going to piggyback on that analogy, because my basketball coach used to always say basketball is a game of runs. you can be up, and then the score can switch to the other direction. what joe biden tried to do is stall the ball. tried to run out the clock. what is happening now -- and i know what the biden camp is doing. this convention is going to give the president a bump. not just from a production value standpoint, but the fact that they were people there, and it

seems like the republicans now have some energy. when you couple that with the unrest in the streets, and places where the dems won, even they are getting upset with the unrest in the streets. not because they don't stand for justice, but because their own personal safety now is at risk. now joe is like, "i've got to go talk with people." the problem is, when you try to run out the clock, it may be too late when you try to check back into the game. >> harris: 60 sick days are a heck of a clock, kennedy. [laughs] i mean, no matter what your strategy was, you have to show up at some point, and it can't just be the debates. >> kennedy: no command hillary clinton at this point was so far ahead of donald trume the 2016 election, and she was never behind in wisconsin. we all know, thanks to george w. bush, god rest his

soul, that is the driving force in presidential politics. who has the momentum? how much momentum did democrats create with their convention, and how much did republicans create? it's been pointed out on this show that some of the dash melissa was talking about some of the people who are nonpoliticians and noncelebrities who spoke at the rnc who had the biggest impact. we will see if it resonates and voters see themselves in some of those stories. kamala harris talking about, "do you feel safe in dollar terms america?" well, how is joe biden's america going to be safer if they don't condemn basic violence? if they can't even do that, what is their plan moving forward? so moms feel safe sending their kids to school? >> harris: well, we'll get to this now. joe biden is insisting he will take part in three televised debates against president trump.

because it became a thing, after speaker nancy pelosi said he shouldn't do any debates. >> as long as the commission continues down the street, i'm going to debate him. i know for certain, i'm going to be a fact-checker on the floor while i'm debating him. [laughter] >> harris: biden's comments came afte hours after the speakr said he shouldn't take part in the debate that should legitimize the presidents. >> i don't think it should be any debates. i don't think the president of the united states has imported him in a way that anybody should have any association -- truth, evidence, data, and facts. >> harris: she has revised her statement saying she has every confidence in biden whe when he faces president trump of the

debates. i tell you, melissa, it's almost like you're having to talk to the team. the team that is supposed to be with you. [sigh] but they don't see with you. what happened? >> kennedy: [laughs] >> melissa: i have another theory. i think they would like to keep this election as quiet as possible. they would like to keep vice president biden in the basement. they would like to just freeze time until the day everybody goes." i think they keep sending people out there, like nancy pelosi, to float this trial balloon and see if they can get away with not going to the debates. they are doing everything to kind of just keep the lid on it. they will continue to crowd-shame president trump, which, we have to get that in there. that is fair about last night. that was huge cloud, close together, they weren't wearing masks, they weren't being teste. they are going to continue to say, "look at the president, he's having these dangerous crowds." the people look like they're having a great time and they are really enthusiastic, but they

are off people for being there and being together, and we will see which prevails and works. but i think, with the debate, they would love, love, love to not have them. i love it when the former vice president says he's going to fact-check. i mean, this is a man who said he's been arrested like 525 times, there is no evidence of any of that. he does know how many grandchildren he has. he is the king of needing to be fact-checked. he's going to fact-check someone else? about in and of itself is so -- >> harris: real quickly, dagen, joe biden now has to speak up, because, if the numbers are going to move, and if what melissa is talking about -- people have already started voting. they are voting based on what they are seeing right now. if what they are seeing right now is changing some minds among independents or anything when it comes to safety and security, wouldn't you want to be out there talking? and debates are going to be critical. speak >> dagen: that's part of the calculation. how far ahead will joe biden be

close to the debate? how much would he losing percentage points against president trump if he decides not to do this? he's a scaredy-cat and afraid to stand on the stage of president trump, i was he going to handle, i don't know, vladimir putin or kim jong un or xi jinping? really, that doesn't speak to that. nancy pelosi, she's got a few years on joe biden. maybe she knows what it feels like to have some barnacles on your hull. >> kennedy: [laughs] >> harris: okay. look how fast we can get to the commercial. president trump attacking joe biden on the economy, as debate grows over the former vice president's tax plan. use a good musical ♪ when their growing family meant growing expenses, our agents helped make saving on insurance easy usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa

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>> melissa: president trump, in his rnc speech last night, promised to lower taxes and give tax credits to companies that

bring jobs back to the u.s. also taking aim at joe biden's tax plan. watch. >> he has pledged a $4 trillion tax hike on almost all american families, which will totally collapse of our-improving economy, and, once again come out record stock markets. on the other hand, just as i did in my first term, i will cut taxes even further for hard working moms and dads. i will not raise taxes. i will cut them. >> melissa: biden's plan would roll back corporate tax cuts and reinstate the obamacare individual mandate. but the former vp recently said he will not raise taxes on people who make less than $400,000 a year or on businesses that employ fewer than 50 people. so, dagen, right there you hear a lie, because he is putting the obamacare tax back into effect. so that is on people who make under $400,000 a year. when you raise taxes on

corporations, which -- i don't know, they think are inanimate objects -- 20% of that, at a minimum, is borne by labor. >> dagen: it's insane to raise corporate taxes in an environment where you still have jobless claims running at roughly a million a week. or you have thousands of jobs that will be lost at airlines. say, american. you have lord & taylor shutting down. you take more money away from those companies, they are going to have less money to spend on workers. paying people, hiring them. also, the plan to eliminate fossil fuel power in, what, 15 years from now? that's the bernie sanders plan that biden came up with. that's another tax, because it's going to raise electricity prices literally for every american. look at california, 60% higher electricity prices on average. >> melissa: yeah. kennedy, you know, the divide between rich and poor got wider and wider during the obama-by

new year's. median income fell. when president trump put in the corporate tax break, we saw that wages for the lowest earners were rising at twice the pace of their bosses. you can see how this works, and will go in the opposite direction of what joe biden has promised. >> kennedy: is incredibly backward-looking. there's no way he can sustain the kind of spending he's talking about without raising taxes on the middle class. middle class earners are going to see their income taxes go up. the only way to grow the economy is to cut taxes and cut spending. i don't care who's in power. no one ever really has the backbone to do that, but that's what you have to do if you want sustained economic growth that won't punish future generations. >> melissa: all right, it started with the nba, but the protests over the police shooting of a black man in kenosha spreading across the sports world. as more teams postpone games and practices, and the president

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>> harris: major league baseball following the nba's lead, postponing seven games after the police shooting of jacob blake. in new york, the mets and marlon

stood on the field and sounds for 42 seconds, honoring jackie robinson's number, and left the field he didn't play, leaving a black lives matter t-shirt draped on home plate. just moments ago, we learned the nba players association announce that games will resume tomorrow hours after any be adam silver said he supports the push for social justice. lawrence, talk to me about how this plays, just in terms of changing things or challenging things. >> lawrence: i think the players definitely have a voice. i was initially critical of the players because i felt like the money they make from the sports is better used in an investment into the community as well as making an impact to change legislation, but some of them are willing to put their money on the line for the cause. some of them will miss payments as a result of this.

it shows you where their passion is. where do we go from here? it's one thing to make that sign and get everybody looking. everyone is watching. but now we've got to take a next step and say, "what can we do from a legislation standpoint to improve their lives?" the president, during his speech yesterday, correctly talk about the violence in the street. you talk about it, that's good. he talked about law enforcement officers being targeted. he talked about people on the south side or in baltimore that have been killed by the violence in the street -- and i have interviewed a lot of those families and those children -- of those children who lost their lives. but he didn't talk about what we can do to get together as a country to address how black folks feel with her interactions with the police. >> harris: when senator tim scott puts together a bill that addresses -- and, look, maybe it was too narrow for democrats. they'd rather have something

bigger that nobody can agree on. i don't know. but when he put set forth, when he puts forth antilynching legislation earlier this year that also did not pass, that falling on republicans. this laid around with changes of police, that they even -- they say they want to be the table. that falls on democrats. what is to happen next legislative-ally, lawrence? >> lawrence: this is an election year. just to be one, it's being used as leverage for the democrats. that's just calling it what it is. you're not going to be able to get everything. the point is, can we move forward as a country? tim scott has been able to do that, but the democrats are giving him the stiff arm. >> harris: we have some breaking news to get to. martin luther king jr. the third is now speaking. remember, we told you about washington, d.c., in the march on washington, and this 57th anniversary. let's watch together.

>> for a living wage, recognition of their unions, and for human dignity. they summed up their struggle with those four words. "i am a man." that simple but powerful slogan impairs movements today from black lives matter to fight for 15 and to the meat too struggle against sexual harassment and abuse. movements of marginalized americans are still trying to clean the dignity they have been denied. martin luther king jr. fought for the dignity of work, and that fight is never-ending. in 1963, the march on washington demanded jobs and freedoms. in 1968, the workers demanded and the poor people's campaign insisted that working people should not live and labor in poverty. those fights foreshadowed our struggle today, to make the minimum wage a living wage, not a poverty wage. and we are fighting alongside

the front-line workers. sanitation workers, health care workers, grocery workers, transport workers, food service workers, and so many more. they are praised for being essential, but they are treated as if they are expendable. while standing with sanitation workers in memphis, so often we overlook the work and significance of those who are not in professional jobs. those were not in the so-called good jobs. but let me say to you tonight, wherever or whenever you are in work that serves humanity, and for the building of humanity, it has dignity and worth. now we have a president who professes greatness and grandiosity, but my father knew better. everyone, he said, can be great, because everyone can serve. he understood the yearning for recognition, and he explains in his speech that everybody wants to be a drum major, the leader

of the marching band. and he challenged us to channel our drum major instinct, becoming drum majors for justice. while we honor our history, we must b a living movement, not a monument. if dad were here today, i am sure he would implore us not to deify him or selectively quote him when convenient. you want us to be drum majors for justice, to champion the ideals he promoted. racial justice, social equality, and peace. and he would gently put intently challenged us not to dwell upon the past, but to live and labor and what he called the fierce urgency of now. so, if you are looking for a savior, get up and find a mirror. we must become the heroes of the history we are making. us means all of us. in 1963, after my father spoke,

an architect of the march asked participants to join and demand of the congress to pass strong civil rights and voting rights laws. more than half a century later, we must demand the united states senate stop blocking passage of the george floyd justice in policing act, and the john lewis voting rights restoration act. when we conclude today, let's remember that this is the commitment march. iin the spirit of 1963, i ask yu to join me in pledging to act in three ways. first, because there's a stake in the selection, i not only ask you to register to vote, but make sure at least one other person registers and votes. second, i ask you to commit to service and struggle in your community, from voter registration to raising the minimum wage, to demilitarized and the police.

get involved with one or more of many worthwhile struggles in your community. third, i ask you to pledge, as my father, john lewis, did, to get into good trouble and do it nonviolent. remember, in the fight against injustice, nonviolence doesn't mean passive acceptance. it means peaceful resistance. we must come together and join with the black lives movement, to raise our voices, and to say enough is enough. we must come, the climate change and environmental justice movement, the women's march, and #metoo movement. the march for our lives, and say enough is enough. martin luther king jr. famously said that the moral arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice. and he's the first to say it doesn't bend on its own.

we must do some work ourselves. in the final year of his life, he wrote in his last book, "where do we go from here? chaos or community?" my sisters and brothers and dear friends, in this defining moment for our history and our country, we must answer dr. king's question. we'll have answer be chaos, or community? i believe some have chosen the answer of chaos, including the current occupant in the white house today. we must choose community, because, if we choose community, we can avoid watching the dream turned into a permanent nightmare. if we choose community, 50 years from now people will say that we were able to redeem the soul of america and begin to fulfill the promise of democracy by systematically eliminating systematic racism and exploitation. my friends, if