let not your heart be troubled, and exclusive sitdown with president donald trump. have a great night and we will see you back here tomorrow night. ♪ >> laura: i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. well, well, well, it took the pulse tightening in key statesag to jolt joe biden out of his basement today. he traveled to pittsburgh in an attempt to stop the political bleeding from all the actual bleeding happening in blue cities like portland and kenosha.to and after three months of essentially his indifference, biden called foree an end to the violence and he attempted to rebuff president trump's criticism that he tolerated the riots as long as he thought they were helping him politically. >> ask yourself, do i look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? really? >> laura: with all due

respect, that's not the relevant question. it doesn't really matter what's in biden's heart, what matters is this.. can you trust joe biden to do what it takes to stop rioters and looters? i don't think any blue state elected official really want to see their cities destroyed by riots and looting, but many of them have proven themselves to be totally weak willed and the hard left has taken advantage of that impotence to do enormous damage. so the question you have to ask yourself is this: when the rioters come for your town, and they are coming, will biden and his team do enough to stop them? and the answer is clearly no. look at seattle, look at portland, wisconsin, minnesota, d.c., chicago, and of course new york. a time and again democrats have had the chance to stop the riots and have consistently failed. remember, we don't want a president who's going to feel sorry for us and who quotes

scripture at us after our businesses andgo our neighborhos have burned down. we need a leader who will stop the riots before they happen. and joe biden is not that leader. for now, the riots have been limited to the blue states. but with biden in charge, the whole country is going to look like portland. now we were lucky enough to sit down with president trump for an exclusive interview earlier today. here's part one of that interview, which will comprise our entire hour tonight. so enjoy. >> laura: mr. president, thank you so much for joining us. on friday, ted wheeler, the mayor of portland, sent a letter to you saying basically we don't want your help, you make matters worse, saturday, one of her supporters is murdered in portland by it looks like a, suspected antifa individual. and then on sunday, wheeler comes out, and biden and essentially tries to blame shift

to you for the violence there. your reaction? >> these are terrible and very incompetent people. portland has been burning for many years, for decades it's been burning, but now it's got -- i watched the mayor try and get in with these people and he went to a protest and they almost killed him. if he didn't have security, he would have been dead, just like they would have done to rand paul, who's a great guy, and his wife, kelly. it's a disgrace with happening. we sent in homeland security. the reason we sent them and was to protect our courthouse. we have a $300 million courthouse and they wanted to blow up our courthouse or burn it down. take your choice, blow it up or burn it down, they said and i said no, no, that's not happening, so they wouldn't protected because the mayor said he doesn't care, so we sent in our homeland people, they did a great job. immediately homeland security. immediately it was protected, and that's the only reason they were there. i've offered to send in the

national guard. i've offered to send them anybody they want, i could put that in 45 minutes and it would stop. and i think the people of portland and the people of oregon, i know it's a liberal state, they are tired of it. they are tired of living withhe this curse. they are living with a curse.ed they say that when you walk through the streets of portland, this is years and years of burning -- >> laura: the last 90 days o it's been really -- >> president trump: it's been horrible. but it's been going on for many, many, many years. it's like -- i won't name the city, but it's a city someplace in the world that's not so good. it's a terrible situation. >> laura: the oregon governor said no one is safe and donald trump 'us america. they're trying to turn the tables on you after months of -- they are not really saying much of not to the violence.

>> president trump: but they won't really criticize anybody that's a violent person, they stick up for the violence. the people that are getting hurt, they don't care about. they don't care about these people.i' it's a weird thing, it's like warped minds and for the last 93 days, i've been offering to send -- as you know, they have to take the offer. they have to ask to have help. i've been standing and i've been saying anytime you're ready -- >> laura: what's motivating them, mr. president? >> president trump: i think it's a sickness. i think it'sn fear. the way they treated this mayor, wheeler, when he was standing there and i'll tell you how unfair the news is. nbc news didn't show that he was being shouted at and cursed at and he ran -- literally had to run for his life because they were going to really hurt him. he had security, if he didn't -- >> laura: they showed up at his apartment building. >> president trump: how he can still stick up for him, i think there is a fear, afraid.y >> laura: are they afraid that oregon could be in play because of people's concern about law and order, is that what you're saying? >> president trump: i think

like the mayor, i think is probably afraid for his life because if you would have seen him but i will show you how dishonest, nbc news put on -- and they didn't have the people shouting, they had them standing there and they talked about how it was a show of great unity, the mayor standing with the people. they were saying things that i can't repeat right now, but horrible things, but they didn't put that on. i actually happened to see the real tape on fox. he escaped with his life and yet he doesn't want any help. it's so unfair to the people of oregon. we could solve the problem quickly, like i did in kenosha. you know kenosha went through three or four days -- you wouldn't have a kenosha right now. we demanded that they send in the national guard, call the governor, and in all fairness, the governor did it. not enough, but it was enough to put it out and we ultimately put in -- we had a thousand people and we put it out quickly. you wouldn't have kenosha right innow.

>> laura: in pittsburgh today, joe biden gave a speech and he spoke directly about this violence. >> he may believe the words law and order makes them strong, but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia in this country shows how weak he is. >> laura: your response to the vice president? >> president trump: look, he's a weak person, he's been weak all his life but now he's really weak.de he shouldn't be running for president, he should not be there -- >> laura: but do you want your supporters to confront the left-wing protesters or do you want to leave it to law enforcement? >> president trump: i want to leave it to law enforcement, but my supporters are wonderful, hardworking, tremendous people and they turn on their televisions and they look at a portland or a kenosha before i got involved and stopped it. or they look at chicago were 78 people were shot last weekend and numerous peoplele died, or

they look at new york where violence is up by, what, 150%. it's up by a number -- and people are leaving. they're looking at all of this and they can't believe it. they can't believe it. whether it's my supporters are not. >> laura: you don't want them showing -- >> president trump: it's a peaceful protest. they were protesting. you know it's amazing. they want a protest and they get criticized. the other people run through tha streets, burned-out storefronts, beat people and kill people, kick people in the face, that would have happened to rand paul by the way and his wife and then you had to go and ultimately forgo very good policeman p who took a big beating. they took a big beating and they really saved rand paul. we are going to bring him into the white house and give him some kind of accommodation because they really -- what they did was very brave, actually. can you imagine them sayinghi policeman were brave because they were escorting, but they are escorting a u.s. senator and

his wife and as he said, he would have been killed if they weren't there. speeone's indenture also, mr. president that democrats have been in their own way inciting this violence against individuals ist almost as longs you've been in office. >> if you see anybody from that cabinet, you get out and you [indiscernible] and you tell them they are not welcome anymore anywhere. >> please, get up in the face of some congresspeople. >> there needs to be unrest in ethe street. >> the domestic enemies of our voting system and aren't honoring our constitution right at 1600 pennsylvania avenue with their allies in the congress of the united states. >> president trump: it's not only the democrats, it's the media. the fake news. the news is so fake.s the mayor, where they make it look like it's a great unity thing when actually they were cursing at him and they would

have done big numbers, but they don't show that, they show the mayor standing with these very tough thugs and he was god, okay? they saved him. nbc shows that like it's unity with the people. i don't get it, i don't know why they're doing it and i will say this. at some point, i will not be president. hopefully that will be in five years from now,gi but i will not be president and they're going to die, they're all going to die.e. can you imagine if they had to cover sleepy joe biden? it won't be very much fun, but more importantly, our country would go to hell, our stock market work crash and assurance are sitting there, we will have problems like we've never had but if you take kenosha and other parts of there country that i don't even talk about -- i could show you things that we've done to stop this kind of a thing that's happening in portland and happening in chicago and happening in other places.ou >> laura: most red states are cooperating and things are relatively calm in red state america, but biden said again today in pittsburgh that

essentially you're not going to be safe in donald trump's america. >> president trump: so, if it weren't donald trump's america, to just use the expression as on president, you would have riots like you've never seen. the democrats have lost control of the radical left and if you look at bernie and -- i call it the manifesto that was agreed to with biden, that's further left than bernie ever was. it won't be able to control these people. these people have lost control of these people and that's hurting them. don't forget, biden wasn't going to come out of his basement until the election. now he had to because the polls are so good for me. now he had to because the polls are different, so all of a sudden he's in pittsburgh. he wasn't going to leave his basement, then he said okay, he's leaving, but he won't leave for ten days. ten days is a long time, so in

the meantime like on sunday and so is saturday, i'm in texas, i'm in louisiana. i was going to stop in two other places, arkansas wasn't hit very much, et cetera, et cetera. i would have stopped, but i'm all over the place. i leave early in the morning, i get laid home at night and that's what do have president. >> laura: tomorrow you're going to kenosha, wisconsin, the scene of so much unrest lately.g and the governor says he doesn't want you to come. why is it important for you to be seen by the people of wisconsin now? >> president trump: because i am a tremendous fan of law enforcement and i want to thank the law enforcement. they've done a good job and when the governor says that i shouldn't come, or that he would prefer that i don't come. i'm the one that called and said tony, you've got to bring up the national guard. i don't really want to do it. tony, you've got to bring it out and unlike your governor of oregon, that just keep saying no, he agreed to it. he agreed to a small number but the small number was plenty.

>> laura: isn't it political motivation? they don't want to come to boost in america because they don't want the media to have to cover what's really happening on the ground. isn't this political?ol >> president trump: blue state america, blue city america, you look at what's going on in new york, you look at what's going on in the states, chicago is a disaster. portland, you look at portland and portland is little different. that's anarchists and i actually think in many ways that's easier to handle. i think portland is very easy to handle because that's a group of anarchists that are paid by the outside and you know, we put a lot of people in jail. i don't know if you know this an or not. three or four months ago we had a problem with monuments. >> laura: democrats didn't say anything. >> president trump: actually got out of control even for them. i signed in an executive order,s ten years in jail if you knocked on a statue or monument. you haven't heard one thing aboutem it. we wouldn'ten have -- they were going after thomas jefferson. there were going after lincoln and they were going after the washington monument.

and i actually don't even think they know. i think they're just thugs. it may be an ideology, and it may not. it is an ideology for the people that are paying them and the funny thing is and the strange thing is, the people that are paying them all this money because summit is doing it -- >> laura: what about the corporations?e >> president trump: the people paying them, their lives will be taken away, their lives will be in danger. they're all going to be gone, they are just stupid foolish people that made a lot of money. >> laura: corporations have given an enormous amount of money, hundreds of millions to black lives matter. which is all over a lot of these protests. so what does that mean about these corporations, why are they paying that money out? >> president trump: because they are weak people. many cases. >> laura: week people? >> president trump: hundreds of millions of dollars -- >> laura: when you say there week, what does that mean? >> president trump: they just do what's the easiest path. t

that's a very dangerous path. black lives matter is a marxist organization. you remember pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. that was the first time i ever heard of black lives matter. i said that's a terrible name, it's so discriminatory. it's bad for black people, it's bad for everybody and all of a sudden it becomes like sort of -- although now if you look, it's gone way down because people are tired of this stuff, what's going on, if you look at what's going over the bats and there are a lot of thugs.be >> laura: d.c. last night. >> president trump: it's terrible what's going on, but black lives matter came intong existence walking down the street screaming "pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon" and that was about police officers.an that was representing police. they were pigs. pigs in a blanket like the sausages or hot dogs. >> laura: well, they were saying

worse. it's gotten -- >> president trump: did it get worse? >> laura: doj's role in trying to really hit the law enforcement accelerator here against these groups, a lot of these individuals coming into wisconsin have been tracked as out-of-state, the ones who have been arrested. can doj do more -- what could they do to really start putting the fear of god in these violent -- not the peaceful protesters, but violent protesters? >> president trump: they have under investigation -- i will showow you. i had this because of this very important interview with you, i will give this to you, kansas city, violence has decreased by a third since the initiative began and indianapolis, guns confiscated, more than 1,000 arrests have been made on the initiative. doj is addressing violence and crime across the country, but you don't read that. the fbi and atf are assisting the portland police department, you can't do much when you have absolutely no cooperation. >> laura: if they don't think they're going to go to jail for ten years for doing what they're doing, then they're going to keep doing it, so how does ahelu trump reelection calm things down in the united states?s? biden says it will calm g things

down, how will the trump election calm things down? why won't he calm things down? >> president trump: they won't calm things down, they will take over. if biden gets and they will have won. he's a weak person, he's controlled like a puppet. it's not going to calm things down, it's going to be they will have won. they will have taken over your cities. it's a revolution, you understand that. it's a revolution and the people of this country will not stand for that. if they're not going to stand for that. the vast majority of people feel like me. every time i put "law & order" up on social media, it gets such an incredible positive response. the people of this country will not stand for it. if you say calm things down, yeah, calm things down because they will have taken over. take a look at what's going on. biden is -- i don't even like to mention biden because he's not controlling anything. >> laura: who do you think is pulling his strings? riis a former obama officials? >> president trump: people you've never heard of, people

who are in the dark shadows. >> laura: what does that mean, that sounds like conspiracy theories. >> president trump: people you haven'tra heard of. people that are on the streets, people that are controlling the streets. we had some to get on a plane from a certain city and in the plane it almost completely loaded with dogs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that, they are on a plane. i will tell you sometime, but it's under investigation right now.w. but they came from a certain city and this person was coming to the republican national convention. there were like seven people in the plane liken this person and then a lot of people were in the plane to do big damage. >> laura: planning for washington. >> president trump: this is all happening. >> laura: but the money is coming from somewhere. how can it be tracked? >> president trump: some very stupid rich people that have no idea that if there thing ever succeeded, which it won't, they will be thrown to the wolves like you've never seen before.:

>> laura: still ahead, president trump reminds us of the racial unrest during the obama-biden era and their total inability to stop it. plus, i pressed him about his plans for racial outrage during a second term. right there. ♪ acial outrage during a second term. stayayayayay

♪ >> laura: women voters. so important to reach out to them, whether you're a republican or democrat. you have a deficit among women voters. >> president trump: but that's what they said last time. >> laura: let's say for the sake of argument you have a deficit among female voters who may be in some cases, you're too aggressive, your tone or your tweets, what you say to them directly about what you'll do in a second term? >> president trump: okay, i have to be aggressive. because i'm like standing here in a sea of incompetent people, stupid people and violent people. >> laura: but that's the kind of language -- a lot of women don't like that. >> president trump: where are we? we are in the white house, i see. okay? so i'm standing here in a sea of people and we need law and order in this country and women see that with me. you'red never going to have law and order with biden. ferguson. people forget i'm a look at all of those horrible race riots you

had'm during obama. ferguson is just one that comes to mind, but you had them all the time. look at all of what happened with brown and this one and that one. look at all of the problems you had under obama. it was a disaster. it was actually worse than anything -- this is a much differenthe situation. again, the anarchists in portland are different than what's going on in chicago. chicago can be solved, i think it's actually a little bit more difficult to solve. i think the anarchists in many ways are much more solvable. but for women, more than anything else, they want security, they want safety. have to have safety. the talk about suburban woman. what i did recently, i ended the regulation that provided low-income housing that mandatedth -- >> laura: that was obama's role. >> president trump: it was a disaster. >> laura: do you think the suburbs are in danger if biden ismp elected? we already know the cities are in danger but the suburbs in

danger because they say that's very mongering. >> president trump: westchester was ground zero what they wereay trying to do. they were trying to destroy the suburban beautiful -- the american dream, really. they want low-income housing and with that comes a lot of other problems, including crime. >> laura: you're not saying they are criminals though? >> president trump: i'm not saying that atat all but there s a level of violence that you don't see, so you have this beautiful community in the suburbs, including women, right? women,ru they want security. i ended where they build low-income housing project in the middle of your neighborhood. if biden gets in, he's already said it's going to go in a much higher rate and you know who's going to be in charge of it? cory booker. that's going to be nice, okay? so i think that women are going -- for a lot of other reasons, the stock markets will crash. as sure as you're sitting there, your 401(k)s will go down to a small percentage of what they are --

>> laura: biden says he's not going to raise taxes on anyone making $400,000 a year. >> president trump: he's going to do $4 trillion in tax increases. is going to do things that are going to cause so much -- the green new deal, which is done by a child. that's the mind of a child, because the green new deal is ridiculous. it doesn't work. they're going to do things -- the green new deal if youou c actually did it is $100 trillion. that's more money than this countryy could make in a thousad years. >> laura: all the great paying jobs, ripped on a building and build a new one with no windows, okay? >> president trump: the african-american community, you've made more strides in outreach to african-american voters than i think of any republican president in my lifetime. what can you tell the african-american community tonight about your commitment to doing more in the second term, and what will that include?

>> president trump: i've done criminal justice reform. i saved the historically black colleges and universities. they went there for years, including obama.im prison reform, criminal justice reform. >> laura: next term. >> president trump: opportunities. more of the same. i actually said in the speech, the best is yet to come. i've been treated very well, at least in the polls, i hope that translates, because unfortunately, the african-american, the black community has been so used to going and pressing a democrat lever, and what have they got out of it? they've got nothing. obama didn't give them criminal ejustice reform, i did. obama didn't give them opportunity zones, iof did. obama didn't do all of the things -- obama could have saved the historically black colleges and universities. he didn't do anything for them. and i've set it in the speech, some people would say you shouldn't say it, it's too aggressive, and i say what's aggressive? i've done more than any president in the history of our country except for maybe -- and i say may be -- maybed abraham lincoln. the reason i say may be as i will explain that to you later, okay? i've done more for the black community than any president in the united states with the exception of abraham lincoln, and it's true. criminal justice reform was such

a big deal and look what biden did in 1994. what he did to people, to black ss le -- >> laura: he called the criminals predators. >> president trump: he called them super predators, actually. >> laura: so when you see the unrest on the streets, so much of it is driven by an antipathy towards law enforcement. more african-americans are stopped by the police, the statistics that are cited over and over again. what can you say to those families who live on the streets and who are worried?fa they are worried because they think their sons or even their daughters could be targeted, because i know -- i've known you for a long time. you don't want that.

if you want people to allan be treated equally, but they have a caricature of republican voters and you're the leader of the party. what you say to them about that mischaracterization? >> president trump: what the black community wants in this country as they want police and they want law & order. they don't want what's happening to their communities. they're being affected in a much harsher, meaner manner than anybody else. that includes hispanics, where i'm doing very well also. look, they want "law & order." they want the police. they do polls in the polls are at 82, 83%. they want the police. they've gotten along with the police and the police have been very badly mistreated because you got one bad apple andth it becomes thehe story for weeks. >> laura: st. louis african-american police officer shot in the head, another african-american just killed yesterday. >> president trump: that's true. that's true. killed. >> laura: it's more dangerous

to be a police officer today, do you not think than it has been a long time? speech of the police are under siege. they can do 10,000 a great acts, which is what they do, and one bad apple or a joker -- a joker -- choker. shooting the guy in the back many times.whle i mean, couldn't you have done something different, couldn't you have wrestled him? you know, i mean, in the meantime he might've been going for a weapon. there's a whole big thing there, but they choke just like in a golf tournament, they miss a 3-foot -- >> laura: you're not comparing it to golf. >> president trump: i'm saying people joke. and people are bad people. you're both. if you have some bad people and they choke. you could be a police officer for 15 years and all of a sudden you're confronted. you've got a corner of a second to make a decision. if you don't make the decision and you're wrong, you're dead. people choke under those circumstances and they make a bad decision. i've seen bad decisions of people that it looked bad but probably it was. it not only the vast majority -- thousands and thousands of great

acts in one bad one and you make the evening news for weeks. >> laura: i know you reached out to jacob blake's mom and she sat on camera she was sorry she missed the call. she respects the office of the presidency, have you tried to talk to her again and would youu talk to her? >> president trump: the call is being made, as i understand it. >> laura: fantastic. coming up, the president's fiery response to his covid critics, such as andrew cuomo, plus, what biden actually participate in any debate toid the president offers his thoughts. stay there. ♪ any debate to the president offers his thoughts. stay there.

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new york, what does that do personally giving your life? d>> president trump: very sad. >> laura: what does that do to personally? >> president trump: and the prosecutors go after people for political reasons but if somebody killed somebody, there's nothing wrong with that. the prosecutors in new york are hat of control. they're out of control. they go after political people. cuomo and your state attorney general under prosecutors. >> laura: they are targeting you. >> president trump: they target me.ta i won everything in washington. now i got targeted in new york. >> laura: attempted rape in broad daylight. >> president trump: that's the people theymp should go after. and have have to put that person away. >> laura: how do you put new york back together again? >> president trump: you need a younger version of rudy giuliani. a great mayor, he did a great job. i think people are really beginning to -- i saw the other night,ee rudy, we love you, rud. they are desperate for a younger version -- should probably putgh rudy back now, he's great. but you get a younger version or a younger version of rudy

giuliani, you need a tough, smart guy. rudy was always fair, but tough and smart and he worked 24 hours a day and it was all about crime. he had to get the city back but the city now, it's amazing, because i could see it happening. you know i left new york, i had to leave new york because i'm being -- i'm being targeted. it's horrible what they're doing. i won in washington -- >> laura: do you think you could win in new york? what you campaign? >> president trump: i'm going to give new york a very good shot because the same people who voted against me like me now you know i won up state big, i won long island. all the outside of the little circle in the middle, which is crazy because i built so many things there, but outside of that circle -- and i said it the other day, i can't believe these people are happy. i can't believe they're happy, but you have to understand a lot of people are leaving. because of de blasio and

because of cuomo, they are fleeing new york. >> laura: ground zero for covid there and you seem to have a good working relationship with andrew cuomo during the covid -- the height r of the covid pandemic. >> president trump: i gave him more than he asked for and all they are as nasty. >> laura: yeah, but now is coming after you saying it's your mismanagement that's gotten us into this mess.sksk what do you -- how do you -- >> president trump: the good news is he hasn't gotten very far with that. killedo 11,000 people with bad decisions on nursing homes. he's the number one state in the country by far for death. probably, you know, world for death. you take new york out of the equation i think we have among the best numbers anywhere butut you take new york, we have the best numbers in the world country-wide. no, andrew said i didn't -- did an incredible job. andrew said everything that he asked for -- as an example, they want the ship, i got them the ship. they want the javits center, they didn't even use it. they should have taken those senior citizens, put them in the ship, they could have w done so

much, but he was desperate for javits center. they wanted four regional hospitals. these beautiful, temporary, the army corps of engineers did an incredible job, so did fema. we got them everything. and then, same thing with de blasio. i never spoke to de blasio before and then i spoke to him ten times. he'd call, can we have this? yes. could we have that? yes. could we have doctors? he wanted me to send doctors and nurses to a hospital, i got it. i did so much and then what happens? he does as. black lives matter sign in front of trump tower. >> laura: does that bother you, that sign? >> president trump: people are vandalizing it, people are so angry, it's built such anger. you know what's happening, they are throwing paint on it, because it was meant as a bad thing. what we've done for de blasio is incredible. what we've done for cuomo, but it doesn't matter. new york is w in serious troubl. >> laura: do you think they're

really worried about covid given the fact that we had tens of thousands of protesters in washington on friday, lots of black lives matter protesters? a lot of them had masks but the obvious and weren't socially distance. they were all packed in together and there's no concern, but then they called the rnc is super-spreader? >> president trump: right. >> laura: is the left really freaking out about covid or is this more of a political concern going into the election? >> president trump: i think they're worried about the election because law and order has increased my paul numbers a lot.le we've done a great job in covid but we don't get the credit. we worked for the governors. the governors have gotten everything they wanted, every ventilator, we had empty cupboards when i got there. as they say, the cupboards were bare. i think they're going crazy over the election. i think they're seeing what's happening. i mean, joe biden out today goes to pittsburgh, right? so he goes to pittsburgh. he wasn't scheduled to leave ever, then he said he's going to leave, three or four days ago,

because his balls are going like this, o right? >> laura: will he debate you? do you think is going to debate you? >> president trump: i know he'd like not to. i know that because i have people representing us -- >> laura: i think people are trying to say he's not going to do well or he can't -- i don't know.ra he's been in public life for 40 years.in >> president trump: what is strange, i watched the various debates when he wase running against all these people and they were killing him. he was so bad. but against bernie -- >> laura: but you'll be debating the media, will you not? why not have no moderators, whya not just you and biden? >> laura: i would rather have that. first of all, the media is unbelievable. >> president trump: but what i'd like, that would be the ultimate debate, two guys standing on a stage and you just debate it out. i know he'd like not to do the debates. i think he probably has to. i don't know how you get out of the debates. i think you probably have to. >> laura: still to come, if he had to do it all over again, what president trump make dr. anthony fauci the face of

the nation's covid response? his surprising answer in moments. ♪ id ? his surprising answer in

♪ >> laura: on the flu vaccines in massachusetts, they are mandating that children get flu vaccines in order to go back to school.

there's a controversy about that, a lot of parents are like we don't want our kidsrd to get the flu vaccine. are you worried that on the push for vaccines, these fast vaccines for covid, you might be splitting a coalition of american frankly in both parties who aren't comfortable? >> president trump: once you get to a certain number -- we use the word "herd." once you get to a certain number it's going to go away, so it doesn't have to be, but yeah, i mean a lot of people are not going to want to do it. >> laura: should it be mandatory? >> president trump: i never had the flu but i never had a shot. i never had a vaccine. i come the first day -- sir, you have to have a flu shot. i said why? because you have to have it.t. i say what's the percentage? i wasn't thrilled with the percentage. it's like 50%. >> laura: dr. fauci0% said it might not give "great protection" because it's a coronavirus.

>> president trump: i said if i've never had it, wouldn't it be good to? and then i thought i should have it -- i've had it now threeen times. and i still haven't hade the fl. so maybe i will give credit to the flu vaccine. i don'tt know. i will say this. i think we are going to have a vaccine very soon. a lot of tremendous work has been done.th a vaccine just like we have therapeutics, which to me are even more important. you going to the hospital to make people better. that's to me, the most -- and we just did the convalescent plasma. i think -- and you have other things too so i think we will a have a lot of therapeutics we are going to have a vaccine ver. soon. as to whether or not people take arit -- >> laura: 35% say they are not going to take the covid vaccine. they shouldn't be mandatory. >> president trump: to the people that have had it at all the other things, people that have had it where in theory you can't get it, one person and they are making a big deal. one person got it twice, t but f you ate it all up it gives a very good protection. >> laura: biden said he would check on the economy again if the scientists said that was the right thing to do in the fight against covid.

would you? >> president trump: i think it's a very dangerous statement for him to make. we did the right thing. we shut it down and we built it up and we are setting records and job numbers, records and retailta numbers, so this guy comes in. i heard at the other day. that means that if some doctor said we have to shut it down, we are going to shut it down. we are setting records. by the way, the stock market is at an all-time record right now. you look at what's going on in the stock market, look at what's going on. we are going to have a phenomenal year next year, we will have a great third quarter. interestingly, the numbers for the third quarter will come out before the election. >> laura: are you worried if something happens in the market -- trumpets pushing the market? >> president trump: i can tellbe you what is happening. nancy pelosi doesn't want to giveet any stimulus. we should have it, it wasn't the people's fault that china give us the virus. whether it was through -- >> laura: they they called a domestic enemy, enemy of the state. how do you work with her on another stimulus?

>> president trump: i always tell her to go back to san francisco, take care of your homeless problem, take care of your problem in california because it's nothing like what i'm witnessing out there, right outside, right where she lives, right in her district is so bad. >> laura: stimulus are not? ur>> president trump: would like to get it for the people because it wasn't their fault but she doesn't want to get it because thatau will make the economy a little bit better and that will be a terrible thing. >> laura: if you have to do it all again -- i know it's kind of a hard question, but do it all again, would you put fauci front and center every day in charge of the coronavirusal task force? >> president trump: i get along with them very well, i disagree with him, a lot of what he said. keep it open for china and he admits it. i get along with them, but every once in a while he will come up with one that i say where did that come from? i inherited him, he was here, he was a part of this huge piece of machinery -- i didn't put anybody in charge. he was here. he's been here for 40 years.s. >> laura: '84.

1984. >> president trump: he's been here for many, many years. you inherit a lot of people, it's part of the machinery and you have some you love, some you itdon't. i like him, i don't agree with him that often, but i like him. >> laura: when you look back on the last four years in the first three were impeachment, mueller, pandemic, investigations, what do you say to the american people about what they don't see when they're doing interviews like this? how you cope with this constant barrage from the hill? is always back and forth, that's fine, but it's been different for you. >> president trump: it's been different because i've accomplished so much. on the military have accomplished -- first of all, bringing many of the troops home, even cutting down germany, okay, because they've taken advantage of us like you wouldn't believe. it's been different for a lot of different reasons. i think primarily because i've accomplished so much.

>> laura: a look ahead to part two of our interview with president trump in moments. ♪ part two of our interviewewewewew ..

♪ >> laura: that wraps up part one of my exclusive interview with president trump, but tomorrow night it gets even better. join us again at 10:00 p.m. tomorrow for part two of the interview, including his response to biden's lame attempt to blame trump for the partial shutdown of college football.

also his thoughts on bill barr and what we might expect from various investigations before the election. you're not going to want to miss it. that's all the time we have for tonight, shannon bream and the fantastic "fox news @ night" ll from here. shannon. ♪ >> mike: hello and welcome to "fox n >> welcome to fox news at nightw we begin with a fox news alert. the potential rate is focused on the safety and security of american cities, joe biden claiming donald trump for violence incident by democrats. this is the president defend the