fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory... focus... accuracy... learning and concentration. try it today with our money-back guarantee! tomorrow. have a good night. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." if you watch the show over the past few months, we know we have fixated, sometimes to the exclusion of other important things, on the riots and disorder that have paralyzedta many american cities.ts we haven't done this for partisan reasons, honestly, it is a presidential year, but the threat we are facing is deeper and more significant than any single election. political violence is the greatest threat we face. it is more dangerous than any virus or any foreign adversary. you could literally end this country. we've told you who is responsible for the violence, we didn't need to tell you, it is

obvious, no matter what the professional liars are claiming on television. the main suspect for example in the most recent political assassination in portland has a blm logo tattooed on his neck. he is not hiding what team he is on, none of them are, and every modest person watching understands exactly what is going on in our streets. what too few understand, though is why it is happening. why would kids raised raised in the fairest country in the world support a violent revolutionary group like blm, whose program consist mainly of destroying things? why would educated adults, the very people who should be defending our system, we need to defend our system, to be working so hard to tear it down? historians will inevitably study these questions, they are going to want to know what happened here. they will conclude that ideologe played a major role in all of this. for a generation, americans had been taught to accept the underlying premises that made blm possible. human beings can be reduced to their race.e. skin color equals privilege. equality under the law must be abandoned.

these are lies. but suddenly, they aret everywhere.es americans have learned them in school, learn them on the job heard them even in church. without these ideas, we wouldn't have riots right now, we wouldn't put up with them for a second. so where is this poison coming from? ultimately, it comes from the academic left, which controls this country's intellectual life, such as it is. but the product they are selling has been disseminated widely by the media, by corporate hr departments, even by the federal government, which you pay for all of us do. the problem is larger than most people understand -- larger, in fact, than we understood until we read the reporting of a man called chris rupo, who i spent months investigating critical race theory indoctrination, the mandatory maoist struggle sessions now underway in your office and your kids school. highly paid diversity trainers systematically attack the unifying ideals of this country they fit americans against each other based on the color of their skin.

it is a grotesque project. it is wrong. it is openly racist. over time it leads to violence r and permanent division. we are seeing it now. t it is terrifying. but virtually no one challenges it.ri we should challenge it for the sake of our country.ll tonight we have asked chris to walk us through some of what is happening here.in you should know the details. he is a research fellow at discovery institute as well as a contributor and editor at city journal, and he joins us now. chris, thank you so much for coming on, appreciate it. >> yeah, thanks so much. tucker, this is something i have been investigating last six absolutely astonishing how critical race theory has pervaded every iinstitution in the federal government. and what i have discovered is critical race theory has become in essence, the default ideology of the federal bureaucracy and is now being weaponized against the american people. i wouldpl like to share three investigations i have unleashed that show the kind of depth of this critical race theory, cult

indoctrination, and the danger and destruction it can wreak. first, the treasury department. i broke the story on the treasury department, which heldo a seminar earlier this year from a man named howard roth, a diversity trainer who has billed the federal government more than $5 million over the past 15 years.ra conducting seminars on critical race theory. p and he told treasury employees essentially that america was a fundamentally a white supremacist country. and "virtually all white people uphold the system of racism and white superiority." and was essentially denouncing the country and asking white employees at the treasury department and affiliated organizations to accept their white privilege, accept their white racial superiority, and accept, essentially, all of the baggage that comes with this reducible essence of whiteness. second, this is not, by any means, limited to the treasury department. critical race theory is actually now infiltrated our criminal justice system, just this week i released a story that the fbi is

now holding weekly seminars on intersectionality, which is a hard left academic theory that reduces people to a network of racial, gender sexual orientation identities that intersect in complex ways and determine whether you are an oppressor or oppressed. obviously, with the white straight male, such as fbiob director christopher wray, being at the top of this pyramid of evil. this is a major story, critical race theory is now infiltrating into our scientific establishment. a few weeks ago i released a story that critical race theorists at the national laboratory which creates our nuclear weapons arsenal, sent their white male executors on a three-day reeducation camp to deconstruct their white male culture and actually force them to write letters of apology to women and people of color. whistle-blowers within the laboratories have now spoken out, but laboratory executives have dispatched

counterintelligence teams to quickly erase their communication of silence and shut them down. and this is really the bottom line. there are some great people in d.c., such as senator josh hawley in missouri that are starting to push backi, but conservatives need to wake up, that this is an existential threat in the united states, and that bureaucracy, even under the trump administration, is now being weaponized against core traditional american values. and i would like to make it explicit, the president and the white house, it is within theirt authority and power to immediately issue an executive order abolishing critical race theory training from the federal government, and i call on the president to immediately issue this executive order and stamp out this destructive, divisive pseudoscientific ideology at its roots, and i think it is something he has denounced, this kind of black lives matter i neo-marxist rhetoric in places like portland and seattle, but it is time to take action and destroy it within its own administration.

>> tucker: the consequences of what you described are profound. i think we are seeing some of them now on our streets. i want to get to the second example, because it may be the most troubling of all, the department of justice. so the underlying idea behind our entire justice system is that all of us are treated y equally under the laws of the united states. your race, your gender, you sleep with are irrelevant in the eyes of the law. how could the fbi, which is armed and empowered to uphold those laws, the disseminating allies like this, which are exactly contrary to their mission? i mean, how corrosive is that? how scary is that? >> it's extreme the corrosive and what we are seeing is theha institutions of the federal t government,al the actual bureaucracies and agencies in this kind of permanent administrative state, has really abandoned the core american principles of equality under the law, of judging individuals as individuals on their merits, and

they are now adapting this radical left ideology of judging people from their group identity, and it's absolutely terrifying at the fbi, which has almost a plenary of physical authority in the united states would be adapting this ideology and i think it is a moment that all americans should be deeply worried about their country. >> tucker: they should be. this has nothing to do with the election, it has to do it our future as a nation. very quickly, there are reports that this is going on in the united states military. is that true? >> yeah, i've had some leaks from inside the u.s. military and the air force and the navy i'm still working on these stories to source them, to confirm them, but what i can say is this, they are essentially starting in 2011 with an obama executive order, mandating diversity and inclusion initiatives throughout the federal government, they have created the offices of diversity and inclusion, ostensibly supporting greater diversity

but in practice, according to sources throughout the federal government, serve as almost internal intelligence services to perpetuate this ideology and, to root out conservative ideas and ultimately purgend conservative employees. >> tucker: a diverse country can't handle this for long. we need to be unified by our equality under the law, or we won't be unified. by the way, if there are people watching this have experienced it, i hope you will reach out to us as whistle-blowers, within the military or federal agencies, reach out to chris rufo or us. chris rufo, thank you so much for your report tonight. appreciate it.ia so we have more bad news for you. the president apparently is still stealing mailboxes across the country. democrats are convinced that is happening. they are close to cracking the case. by the way, they are also completely sure there is noo rik whatsoever of nationwide mail-in balloting. a they say that is a conspiracy theory.

but now the democratic party operative anonymously has made a confession, and our own rick leventhal has details on that revealing story. rick?rb >> tucker, as you said democrats have dismissed concerns about mail-in ballot fraud as overblown, but a reporter says the truth is chilling, abuse is easy as and spread. a democratic operative says he claims to have been fixing mail-in balloting for decades. he called himself a master at fixing ballots, telling "the post," some methods are really simple, like sending a team into a neighborhood after ballots are mailed out and then knock on the doors and convince people to hand them over. the operative claims a shocking number of people actually do that, and then they can just throw out the ballots cast for the other side. he says postal workers are sometimes in on the scam tossing loads of ballots from areas known as republican strongholds, and another method allegedly targets nursing homes. >> this has been called granny harvesting in the past, and they don't even have to steam it

open because the nurse is on the payroll, the nurses go and stack a ballot, hello, we are going to do the ballot together, and -- and then, you know, it's both you fraud and elder abuse, frankly. >> the source says he and his operatives did their dirty work in new jersey, new york, and pennsylvania, which is a key swing state in the upcoming election, tucker. >> tucker: what a story. rick leventhal, thank you for that. >> sure. >> tucker: the elected democrats who painted blm on the streets of washington, d.c., mae soon knock down the washington monument.th it's one of those stories you think can't be real, but it is real. we have the documents to prove it. plus, the brother of the governor of new york turns out to be very different in private than he is on television. we've got the tape to illustrate that, coming up. tape to illustt our retirement plan with voya gives us confidence... ...so we can spend a bit today, knowing we're prepared for tomorrow. wow, do you think you overdid it maybe?

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♪ >> tucker: so we've heard a lot since may about the systemic problems in our society, some of which, by the way, are real. we do have problems. but blm has a solution that never made a ton of sense. this summer, blm activist decided maybe we should destroy statues of a bunch of people who have been dead for centuries. maybe that will make life better

akr americans. so rioters in baltimore raleigh, san francisco, many other places, did just that. th. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> tucker: that was fun, so they kept going. if you can't work, wreck stuff. in june mobs attempted to tear down the andrew jackson statue on the steps of the white house. >> tucker: after that happened, the president, you may remember this, issued an executive order designed to punish vandalism of public monuments, feds began cracking down on it. but in washington, lawmakers are thinking hard about how to continue to destroy things, so a

committee created by d.c. mayor muriel bowser, the mayor overseeing the dramatic decline of the city, released a report tuesday, asking the federal government to "remove, relocate, or contextualize monuments." what monuments? the jefferson memorial, the washington monument, gone. that will make the city better. schools named after heroes like ben franklin and alexander graham bell also need to be modified, according to them that will make life better. but will it? robert woodson is the founder of the woodson center and a frequent guest on this show. mr. woodson, glad to have you tonight. if we took down the washington monument tomorrow, if we bulldozed the jefferson memorial, whose lives would get better?? >> well, that is the biggest question. you know, someone once said tucker, when truth-based facts are discounted, the lies become normal, and that is what we are seeing here. of all of the challenges facing particularly black residents of washington, d.c., why is this mayor spending and energy and

money talking about tearing down statues?pe they are flirting with a very dangerous impulse when they start doing this, tuckerst because you think about, in the french revolution, what they tried to do is rewrite history and what you are seeing around the country are guillotines being established because in the french revolution, what they did, of course, is wipe out the people in church and also the aristocracy, and tried to even change the calendar, and as a consequence, it really -- it took us into a dark period, and what the mayor doesn't understand, america is a country of redemption. none of us should be defined by the worst of what we were, but it is very dangerous for them to be flirting with -- the russian revolution, the same thing happened there, they wanted to

rewrite history. the black on black violence at an all-time high, here is where we ought to be concentrating our energyll and efforts. we are reaching a level of depravity when rioters in portland are locking people in buildings and trying to burn it down, and also, people are cheering when a trump supporter is shot to death -- i've never seen that level of depravity n before -- >> tucker: no. >> in this country. >> tucker: i haven't either. t one theme that connects all of these events is destruction. i think there are a lot of problems in this country that we should try and solve, but i don't see any of these people trying to solve it. they are not building anything not creating anything. they are tearing down what previous generations built. where's the person is going to stand up and say if you are upset about inequality, let's improve the schools, not just wreck the good schools, make the bad schools good. why does nobody say that? >> well, that is the point tucker, but they also failed to

answer this question: if the problems facing, for instance the inner-city blacks, can they be solved by addressing institutional racism, and if so what is the strategy for ending institutional racism, and what is the relationship of that i remedy to the problems facing inner-city blacks? will we have a mother of an 8-year-old who was killed by a young black man, and the black b lives matter representatives came to her and told her she must really quiet down and not raise this issue, because it takes black lives matter off message, it deflects attention away from their message, and their message is blacks being killed by the police, even though only 14 blacks were -- unarmed blacks were killed by police in the course of one year, and for every one of those blacks killed, 270 blacks were killed by other blacks, and yet black lives matter is going to

convince us that thehe biggest challenge that we face are the police killing blacks. so, again, as i said, if fact-based truths are discounted, then lies become normal, and that is what is happening in our society today.. lies are becoming normal, and that is dangerous for all of us. >> tucker: it is dangerous and our children. robert woodson, thank you so much come appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: a lot of rules all of rules all of a sudden in american society. not everyone has to follow them. it's too dangerous for you to vote in person, but nancy pelosi knows it is safe for her to sneak p into a hair salon when o one is looking. fortunately, there was a security camera, so we have a tape. plus, the real toll of theam coronavirus lockdown is becoming clear. it's not what they told you. we will tell you what itna actually is, next. ♪

>> tucker: in security footage obtained by fox news, time stamped monday, 3:08 p.m. pacific time, an 80-year-old part-time napa resident can be seen in a san francisco hair salon, wet hair, not wearing a mask, but she was almost alone due to coronavirus regulations salons in san francisco are closed to services. nancy pelosi went inside, and she can do that because she is the speaker of the house, third in line to the presidency. you cannot because you don't have as much power as nancy pelosi.. the owner of the salon was furious about this, and she told fox news that pelosi's trip was disturbing and a slap in thed face to people not allowed to work because of nancy pelosi. meanwhile, our media was angry too, not at nancy pelosi, but a, you for finding out it happened. over at "politico," one person was incensed by this, and she

tweeted, and we are quoting "have to ask, upon seeing this is it legal in california, a two-party consent state, to videotape someone in a private home or business without their consent?" it was the owner's fault, the security camera's fault, definitely not nancy pelosi's fault. if you follow nancy pelosi carefully, you are not surprised by that because nothing matters more to nancy pelosi than cold hard science, she hadn't been born into a powerful political family, she might have been isaac newton, that's what you can trust her when she says the president is stealing our mailboxes and it is not safe to vote in person. nancy pelosi knows what she is talking about, that has guided her career for decades now, if you watched msnbc last night, you watch her point out -- this is true -- that only bad people don't wear masks or stay socially distant. >> what further evidence does anyone need that this presidente

doesn't care less about the spread of this virus than to see what he did, vandalizing, by the way, the white house by bringing all those people there, no masks, no distancing, and the rest? he slapped science right in the face, and what a bad example that was. >> tucker: donald trump slapped science right in the face, and that is not easy, by the way, because science is aap worthy opponent. stings like a bee. but by that standard -- and that is the standard now --e nancy pelosi didn't simply slap science in the face yesterday. no, by not wearing a mask and sneaking into a hair salon others are banned from entering, nancy pelosi did something worse, nancy pelosi drowned science in a 12-pound designer ice cream cup, she -- she ripped science apart like a state of the union address, and she did it all on camera. violent.

chadwick moore is a journalist and we are happy to have him on as we always are. great to see you tonight. i'm concerned, now, and this is just -- throwing this out there there may be a double standard. one for you, you sit alone unarmed in your power apartment while riots rage, you can't leave, nancy pelosi surrounded by federally financed bodyguards getting her hair done. it doesn't seem like equal me.ice to does it to you? >> it doesn't. i've got a buddy in brooklyn, an immigrant from uzbekistan, ais barber, owns the barbershop facing $24,000 in fines for opening his barbershop before he was supposed to.es does nancy care about him?-- no, and what we are seeing -- should anyone be surprised about this? we saw, also, andrew cuomo new york governor andrew cuomouo photographed not wearing a mask in public, a day after heli tweeted about how everyone must wear masks.

chicago mayor lori lightfoot went to get her hairor done in between her ignoring the rioting, looting, chaos in her city, but taking time out of her day -- if you remember that recently. she has to get her hair done because she is on television t and needs to look good. whether or not anyone can tell the difference, that's up to the viewer and the citizenry, but another one, gretchen whitmer in michigan. what we are seeing -- look, all of these progressive leaders in these progressive districts their districts, lest we forget were crumbling, hemorrhaging businesses and residents, they were becoming -- like in san francisco, where the streets were running with human feces, crime was up, homelessness, drug addiction, all of these problems predated the double whammy of unprecedented nightmares we are now suffering through, the virus and the marxist riots.

and how did they behave then? the same they are behaving now all of these progressive leaders and these districts continue to behave like aloofe 17th century monarchs, just blithely presiding over their troubling fiefdoms, their ambitions are not local i never have been, they don't care what is happening to their constituents. their ambitions are national and global and about their ownei personal goals and their party achieving solid power in this country. >> tucker: i think you are exactly right, hate to say that. and meanwhile, while they are calling for gun control, they are all armed. we should disarm them, i'm serious. i'm serious, there is no reason any politician who calls for taking your guns away ought to force you to pay for bodyguards. period. inay my opinion. chadwick moore -- >> exactly, we are stuck in progressive cities where we can't arm ourselves and the police --

>> tucker: i've noticed. great to see you tonight. >> you too, thank you. >> tucker: there is growing evidence the coronavirus lockdown haven't simply been ineffective -- by definition they have been -- and they have been lethal, getting a clear picture of how much damage our elected officials have done, not all intentionally, but still. according to a new study by revolver.news, according to a study they commissioned, the coronavirus lockdown's have been ten times more deadly than the coronavirus itself in thisco country. how did they reach that conclusion? revolver first tallied up the number of deaths caused directly by coronavirus, those numbers are public, then the number of t lockdown related, stress related fatalities, heart attacks suicide, drug o.d., and unlike media organizations, they also took into account the ages of everyone who died. your age actually really matters, when trying to get to the truth of what is happening across the country. revolver found the lockdown'ss

have cost roughly 18.7 million combined life years in thissly country alone. the coronavirus lockdowns meanwhile, best they could guess, saved fewer than 1 million life years. essentially, they are sacrificing the nation's young people. i wonder why young people are so upset? the media's job, of course isn't to tell you any of this it is to keep these facts from you, to spread fear, lying if necessary, and to keep the country lockdown until joe biden wins in november. that is why they decided to report a member of the white house coronavirus task force is going rogue. according to cnn and other media organizations, he wants americans to get infected with coronavirus to build upnn immunity, or maybe because he is evil or something. >> he is reportedly trying to get the administration to go for a herd immunity strategy. i hope this isn't the best the administration can do, i i realy hope it doesn't happen. >> "washington post" reporting that that strategy is being

pushed by a guy named scott atlas. this strategy has been tried before, n in sweden most notably and it was a disaster. >> scott atlas, one of trump's top medical advisors, is report of the urging the white house to embrace a herd immunity approach. >> tucker: no one hasn't benefited more from the lockdown than the richest man in the world, jeff bezos. so jeff bezos is going after someone who is questioning the lockdowns. is this true? we thought we would ask directly. dr. scott atlas is on the white house coronavirus task force, and he joins us tonight. straightforward question, are you trying to infect more americans with the coronavirus? >> thanks for having me, tucker. the news is out of control, i think because everybody knew -- maybe i didn't know, i'm not one of these washington insiders, but there is news, opinion, and overt lies, and that was one of those overt lies.

the ultimate straw man, to put a falsehood out there, and have falsehood. there is no advising going on from me about wide open and pursuing a herd immunity strategy. i've never said that to the president or the task force. h no one has ever said that to the president, i never have hearder the president say that, and that is not a strategy here in any way, shape, or form. it is just an overt live, but this is washington, so i am learning quite a bit. nothing about the coronavirus but i'm learning quite a bit about human nature. >>hu tucker: yeah, and certainly the way campaigns are conducted. did someone from "the washington post" call you and ask you directly, is this true, and if so, what did you say? >> yeah, well, i've never spoken to anybody from "the washington post." i did issue a statement througho the white house communications person, which they did put in the article after it was

published, and despite me saying exactly what i just said, i have never done that kind of advising, it is not part of a strategy, no one is advising the president on that, and that is not the president strategy, they put that in the article after it was published and then they went on to attack it as if it were still fact. i guess the denial has nothing to do with anything. >> tucker: huh. and it goes about saying, they didn't have any actual evidence of it because you didn't say it. >> it is a complete lie, so i don't know if somebody actually said that, but i can't control what anyone else says. i can only control what i say. >> tucker: it's just remarkable. and like you, the rest of us are learning an awful lot. thanks for coming on tonight. >> okay, thanks. >> tucker: well, we told you a couple of nights in a row about a tape of the brother of the governor of new york, who has a tv show, talking to michael cohen, america's sleaziest lawyer.

a revealing tape, we are going to play it for you, right after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: you remember michael cohen, a lawyer in new york, the president's lawyer. a couple years ago he was indicted for tax evasion among other things and went to prison. when the topic of michael cohen comes up, the one thing everyone who knows michael cohen canvee agree on, the one thing, is he is a sleaze ball. not a minor sleaze ball, but an epic sleaze ball, hollywood level fleas fall. if they ever make "sleaze ball: the movie," michael cohen will play the lead and be in every sequel, too, he was born for that role. what's interesting to note among michael cohen's close personal friends is an anchor on the cable news network, not just any cnn anchor, but the cnn anchor giving the most overheated possible moral lectures, and the first on that channel to invoke god himself, the blessed mother if necessary, if he scolds youh for not living up to his high ethical standards. that man's name is christopher charles cuomo, son of one governor, brother of another, a yale graduate, weight lifter deeply good person.

also, we now learn, a buddy of michael cohen's. we know this because we have an audio tape of a conversation between the two men, apparently there are many tapes like this but tonight we will play just a portion of one. before you listen to this, try to remember what chris cuomo sounds o like when you listen to him on television, you've seen him, admit it. compare that memory, the moral chris cuomo, to the guy you here in this recording. here you go.he >> you know, i'm always careful when i talk to media. >> right. >> you know how many [bleep] phone calls i've gotten from people at abc who say reporters are calling and lying about things they heard about me to try to get stories about me when i was at abc? guys calling and saying "i hear he was the charlie rose of abc used to invite t women to the hotel." do i looked like the [bleep] kind of guy who has to do that? i have a good source that said

he forced one woman to have sex i just want to know if you heard anything like that. there is no woman. women who do work there saying, yeah, you know,, and he was naming me with other guys we've all done this to each other once in the elevator and he put his hand on my shoulder and made me very uncomfortable. i mean, what the [bleep]? >> it's a problem, and i've always told you, the media is not your friend. >> no. >> tucker: whoa. there a lot to unpack here, but chris cuomo is agitated, mad really mad, and what makes him maddest of all? the suggestion he has to act like some old guy, charlie rose to get the ladies, sandbagging women's and hotel room with an open bathrobe. "do i look like the kind of like us to do that?"an the response, "sure, why not." but chris cuomo disagrees. he doesn't need cheesy tricks like that. chris cuomo is on television. chris cuomo could bench press

your subaru, open bathrobes are for losers. you know who is a loser? all those women who keep accusing chris cuomo of sexual harassment. they claim he bothered them in elevators.ot now, if women made those claims against you, chris cuomo might very well denounce you on his tv show, because we are firing and banishment from decent society.a these are women making the charges, after all. believe women. women's voices must be heard. me too, and all of that. that is not what chris cuomo tells his friend, michael cohen. you get the sense neither one of these guys is a big feminist. they can let their hair down and be themselves, so he spares him the me to lecture. he says, and we are quoting here, "i mean, what the f." in other words, these girls they are crazy, all of them want a piece of chris cuomo.ls

maybe some of them want to get bench pressed, if you know what i mean? they are making up these crazy lies, you know, like women do hormones, probably. michael cohen is not convinced by this explanation. even michael cohen takes women more seriously than that. well, it is a problem, cohen begins to say, but chris cuomo cuts him off. when you're talking to chris cuomo, you don't get to talk much. we never learn who are all of these women who claim they have been sexually harassed by chris cuomo?y what are their names? had they received financial settlements from cnn or abc? we asked those questions yesterday to cnn, we sent them the tape you just heard, someone at p.r. department, and the weird kid who hosts the show. they did not respond. was their reaction the same as chris cuomo's? i mean, what the f? we can only guess theyct think women are crazy. chris cuomo hasn't called us either, you can see why. we work in the media, and if there is one thing that chris cuomo hates, it's the media.

obviously, he defends the media night after night on his show but he doesn't mean it, not at all, as he told his old pal michael cohen, more than once "i've always told you, the media is not your friend." actually, we're starting to like chris cuomo. up next, the largest city in america continues its rapid downward spiral. just yesterday, witnesses witnessed a rape on a subway platform, that was sunday. new yorkers are fleeing. how did we get here, exactly? we will tell you.as ♪

♪ ♪ >> tucker: many thousands of people are fleeing new york city. moving company circle around the block. the country's biggest city whatever you think of new york it is sad and bad for all of us. we know why it's happening. the main reason is because local politicians and a cash bail defund the police and encouraged violence.

that's why we are seeing more violence and we see the shocking images of an attempted rape in broad daylight in the subway station in the city's macy's neighborhood. is there anyway to reverse it? we should be rooting for. david has thought a lot about this and written eloquently s about it. thank you for coming on. i think we can agree or you and i can agree on why it's t happening. is there some way to fix it? >> the problem here is that we have a mayor in bill de blasio who is incompetent fool who couldn't find france on a labeled map of france much less govern the greatest city on earth. the only thing i can give him credit for is that in a very divided nation, the only thing everyone seems to agree on is that we don't like him. listen, at the end of may i sent

to you if we don't end this lockdown is going to get worse and worse and worse. children are being gunned down on the streets but they can't go to school. women are terrified to ride the subway and they should be. people are leaving the city in exodus as if moses had parted the hudson river. this is an absolute disaster. our political leadership doesn't seem to recognize that at all. it's a big problem. >> tucker: maybe it's unknowable. it's hard when you visit new york not see the change and be saddened by it if you care about the country or the city. do you think they really don't know that the city is degrading? >> i don't know. i love the city, tucker. i really do. it's the only place that i have ever felt like i belong to. right now i would crawl over broken glass to beg rudy giuliani to do it just one more time. please. be my mayor. i don't want to do. i don't know if i should run for mayor. something has got to give

because this is a bad situation. i'm not sure the rest of the country quite understands just how bad it is. >> tucker: give us a sense of how your life, since you're there and you love the city andg you are saying it with genuine concern not just make a partisan point, how is your life change? what's it like living there for you? >> there's very little to do. there's very few places to go. there are a few sort of fancy restaurants in the east village with outdoor dining where a bunch of joe biden voters who scold people for not wearing masks scream at each other drunkenly, but for the most part the city has shut down. i don't bother to shave anymore. what's the point? it's a closed city. we need to open. that's the only answer here. government needs to get out of our way.we if the city's going to get saved, it's the people of new york are going to save it and we need the government to get out of our way and let us do it. >> tucker: i'm confused by

this and i don't want to attack anyone in new york.he you have a city where the city government has decided not to protect women from being raped on subway platforms. crime isis up everywhere and police aren't allowed to respond. restaurant owners are too afraid of, what, enforcement officials to bring the city back to life.t a tiny percentage of people voted for bill de blasio. why does he get to wreck the city? >> i don't know the answer to that, tucker.en it's the biggest question of the lockdown in general. this is not something that has been enforced. this is something that's been consented to. >> tucker: yes. >> i was talking to a friend of mine who talked to someone in new york in march who was terribly afraid that there would be riots. my friend said i am more afraid that people are going to obey. that we are really just cowed as

a people, and it looks like we are. >> tucker: have you heard anyone be smart about it? i'm gonna live my life as the constitution allows me to try to make it a better city, ignoring insane nonscientific demands from bill de blasio. >> there are people doing that underground. there are people whoho are breaking the rules and honestly just trying to make a living. we might be at the point now where we need something more than that where we really do need to stand up as a people and say we don't accept this anymore. >> tucker: yeah. i hope in a peaceful constructive way people we'll begin to do that, because there's no reason that pto mediocrity should be allowed to destroy america's largest city and that's exactly what we are watching. david marcus from new york correspondent for "the federalist." thank you. thank you for coming on and for what you write, which is really insightful. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: we are out of time. another hour gone. we will be back tomorrow night and every weeknight for the conceivable future to bring you a show that is the sworn and

sincere enemy of lyingng pomposity, smugness, and i groupthink. obviously if you can operate a dvr, go aheadk and do that. have a great evening. sean hannity takes over from new york. we are tracking developing stories including this one from san francisco. what get your screen. fox news has exclusively obtained this the security footage showing nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house, at least in name only, getting her hair done out up san francisco at a salon. forcing all salons to remain close because of coronavirus concern. as per usual, the rules do not apply peto nancy pelosi. the owner of that's a lot is infuriated. we have all of those details an video coming up and also tonigh evidence sohas emerged that i a otherse