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she is 80 years old, at mortal risk of death from coronavirus but she is not wearing a mask. it turns out that everything pelosi demands that you not do, she is doing herself and she seems very happy doing it. it's hard to remember the last time a public official was caught on video with her hypocrisy showing the way pelosi just h was. infuriating doesn't begin to describe the experience of watching a video. but there's an explanation, ladies and gentlemen, there always is. watch nancy pelosi tell you what really happened. >> i've been there many -- over the years, i've been there many times. i appreciate the question and let me just say this. i take responsibility for trusting the word of the neighborhood salon that i've been to over the years many times and that when they said we are able to accommodate people, one person at a time and that we can set up that time, i trusted

that. as it turns out, it was a set up, so i take responsibility for falling for a set up, and that's all i'm going to say on that. >> tucker: nancy pelosi wanted to know she appreciates the question and that she takes responsibility for being set up and trusting someone who lied to her. in other words, she takes no responsibility at all. none. it's the salon's fault. nancy pelosi of the victim here. if you live in nancy pelosi's neighborhood or a neighborhood like it, you will recognize this behavior immediately. yet another self-centered rich lady blaming the help for her mistakes. where's my bracelet, carmella, you stole it! you can just hear nancy pelosi screaming that is her house gather asmi the bracelet she cat find dangles from her wrist. it's all a metaphor for how liberals see our country. this is how they explain their mismanagement. they attacked the people below them. michelle obama scolds america for racism and inequality from her $12 million estate on

martha's vineyard. biden blames america's problems on beet tops, working-class guys who make 50 grand a year protecting us from criminals. the cops did it, biking yelps. it's their fault. the same time you notice that he always gets a pass to the people who caused the problems we hire cops to clean up. the real problems, like unemployment and drug addiction and disintegrating families. biden never mentions the people because those problems. his friends at google, his donors and private equity, his allies in the chinese government. biden never blames them. he never takes on the powerful. no one on the left ever does. they think jeff bezos is a hero because he'sf rich. they sniff his throne like beagles. instead, their target is always the dying american middle-class, which they punish and degrade and humiliate at everyy turn.n. this is a revolution, have no doubt, staged for the benefit and amusement of our ruling class. maybe the first of its kind in

history. nancy pelosi of course is one of the leaders of that revolution. she doesn't have to explain why she doeso things. today she announced she would not explain. she did not tell us exactly how she was trapped by the hair salon. her assistant set up her appointment by text message, you can see the texts for yourself on the fox news website right now. and what about her all-important covid protection mask? the hairstylist tear that off nancy pelosi space in some kind of vicious assault? pelosi didn't say. instead she used a phrase familiar to anyone who's been around politics for a while. it was a set up, she claimed. it was a set up. sounds like something they would have said in the mafia s controlled baltimore that her father ran.. democrats have used that phrase for a long time, they still do. a set up. that's hillary clinton's explanation for how she lost of the 2016to election. and most famously of course, that's what pelosi's old friend, d.c. mayor marion barry said when the feds busted him for

smoking crack with his girlfriend. watch. >> i understand, pay attention. >> listen to me right now. >> mayor. >> [indiscernible]. >> tucker: she set me up. that's what he said, that's what pelosi is saying. that'sha what they always say because their reaction never changes. my mistress gave me the crack pipe. she should have learned to swim. the hairstyle forced me to violate the same restrictions i forced on you. it's her fault. you've heard it all before, you will hear it again. when they're in trouble,li liberals blame the girl, that's who they are. tonight wewe want to introduce each of the woman nancy pelosi is blaming. she owns the now famous salon in san francisco and she joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. >> thank you so much for having me. >> tucker: so nancy pelosi claims on camera that you orchestrated a "setup" to entrap

her into getting her hair blown out without a mask. didp you? >> no, absolutelyth not. >> tucker: how would you have done that? .can you prove that this wasn'ta diabolical set up designed to bring down theak speaker of the house by blow drying her hair? >> she had called a stylist -- s or her assistant did and made the appointment. so the appointment was already booked, so there's nod, way i could have set that up. and i've had a camera system in there for five years. i mean, i didn't go in there and turn cameras on a soon as shend walked in and set her up. so that's absolutely false. >> tucker: so pelosi says that a salon from san francisco -- and of course she lives there and is the most powerful democratic legislator in the world, but she says she understood that the restrictions allowed a one-on-one appointment in salons. what do you make off that? >> i heard that and i thought to myself, well, as a hairstylist, i see clients one-on-one, so

that would mean i would be open. right? >> tucker: yes, it would mean that. are you open? >> no. >> tucker: what is that doing to you and your business? >> for the past six months we've -- i mean, we're pretty much done. i mean, we've lost at least 60% of our clients. i've lost the majority of my staff. so, you know, six months is a long time to be closed down. >> tucker: it's too long. so your business has been destroyed by this. how do you feel about seeing the most powerful woman in america come into your salon in violation of the rules she supports, get caught, and then blame you forts it? >> to be honest, it was more hurtful. she's been coming in for quite a while. and just to see her come in --

especially not wearing the mask, that's what really got to me, but this isn't even political. she's been coming in there. it's the fact that she actuallyn came in and didn't have a maskn' on and i just thought about, you know, my staff and people not being able to work and make money and provide for their families and if she's in there comfortably without a mask and feeling safe, then why are we shut down? why am i not able to have clients come in? so it's been -- it's been hard. >> tucker: you're not making a political point, you're making a human point rooted in common sense. ium don't know the answer is, wt do you think the answer is? if nancy pelosi feels comfortable using your salon, why can't civilians use it? >> exactly, and i will be honest. in our area and separate cisco -- i mean, we are obviously the last county or city to not open, we've been trying to figure that out.

with an asking ourselves these questions for six months -- for the past actually four months. of why we are not reopened. and it's kind of a good question. we again don't know. >> tucker: what are you going to do? c are you going to stay in the city, and san francisco? >> i don't think so. the hard part of all of this is that i have been in that community for 12 years and since this happened, i have received nothing but hate, text messages, death threats. they are going to burn my hair salon down. my yelp page is just unbelievable. with bad reviews. it's just -- it's sad that my community is pulling this when they are saying that i threw her under the bus when i didn't. so that's hurtful, but i think,

yeah, i think i'm pretty much done there. >> tucker: i think that's one of the most heartbreaking stories i've heard in a long time. and i just wantt to restate for the people who are hating you for telling the truth, i don't consider this political, you don't seem like a politicalol person. and i'm just sorry this is happening to you. thank you for coming onto may. >> thank you. >> tucker: welcome somed potential good news about the coronavirus vaccine maybe on the way. rick leventhal joins us with details. >> during this sars epidemic back in 2003, it took almost two years to develop a vaccine. the coronavirus vaccine could be ready thise november, at less than eight months after the pandemic became an issue in theb u.s. in a letter sent to governors in america last week,en the cdc states the fast-track applications too distributive vaccine by november 1st, just before the 2020 election, prompting complaints politics

might be prompting this speedy rollout and could be jeopardizing the politics of the vaccine. the vaccine will be safe, supported byan science, and meen all fda standards with one of the companies involved calling a historical victory. priority will be given to frontline health care workers, people especially vulnerable to covid-19. 2 million doses should be ready by the end of october, 10-20 million more by the end of november, talker. >> tucker: will have a lot more on that story as we learn more. thanksks so much for the updatei appreciate it. up next, we have been waiting a long time, keeping track, a long time for mark steyn to get back. and he is back. he's gone a few weeks and the whole country falls apart. is going to tell us what he noticed upon his return. plus, there is more to the course, you heard last night and an update from the internal situation at cnn, sumptuous as always. we will tell you. ♪

♪ >> has taken this year just since the outbreak, has taken more than 100 years -- look, the lies -- i mean, think about it. more lies this year than any other year for the past 100

years. >> tucker: think about it.t. we are still thinking about it. that was joe biden in pittsburgh yesterday with an observation about the past 100 years. did you understand it? we learned that the russians are spreading this information, they always do. this time they're trying to convince us that joe biden is slipping. he's not.s he's not losing his mind, that's just what vladimir putin wants you to think. [cackles] he wants to make sure you're paying attention. he does it all the time, watch. >> he doesn't want to shed light. he wants to generate heat and he's stroking violence in ourngg sods l n mamamamamamamamamama confusing. happens every day. we are like fish in the aquarium

know, it's not a big deal, we are well used to it. ladies and gentlemen, a man who is not used which joinsho us no, mark steyn, about to pull out our proverbial fish tank and blow our minds. he spent the last several weeks out of this country and undisclosed locations. unglued from the internet, detached from social media, essentially proverbial alien from another planet joining us cold. we will get his reaction. mark, you're just seeing this all for the first time. when you left, joe biden was quoting aeschylus from memory flawlessly. now there's this. how do you assess the change? >> well, you know, this is stunning to me. because six months ago we were all talking about m how joe bidn is not the superb coherent,t, articulate guy from the '90 is in the '80s. what's stunning to me now as i miss the fantastically incoherent joe biden circle the new hampshire primary, when he

was threatening coeds to take them outside and beat them up for being dogface line pony soldiers when he was coming up with the fantastic anecdotes about corn pop and rappelling down into that gorge in afghan afghanistan or whatever the anecdote was and now he's just reduced to, you know, you know the thing, come on, man. it's like the worst -- where's the corn pop virtuoso esther williams bathing suit rusting razor old and under the rain barrel. where's the insane specific detail of joe biden's fantasies at their brilliant best from just new hampshire primary month? it's tragic. >> tucker:'s he can't even lie anymore, it's sad. you're absolutely right, and you lose your ability to make up false stories, you've lost everything.

>> yet, when you can't even fantasize anymore. so he wase. fantastically insane six months ago and now he's just dolly insane. this is a real loss for america. >> tucker: you i'm sure missed this too but the mayor of washington said she's considering tearing tearing down the washington monument, but that's not the only monument in america under attack. the walls of graceland, elvis presley's old home, in memphis, have been graffiti with slogans like blm, abolish i.c.e. defund the police. reports say it's unclear wh whos responsible for the dip graffiti, probably trump supporter's. what's your guess? >> yeah, well, one of the things i think -- i heard earlier today that china now has the biggest navy in the world that people get worried about that. the great thing about america is now we have the most [indiscernible] in the world. everything -- every american city you can walky around these

fantastic [indiscernible]. america is really leaving the world influence and that's actuallyin something to cherisht this moment. a a few months ago when we were talking about china, people, it was aware moment, talking w abot china -- uncoupling from china, china becoming the dominant power. there's no point going to war with china because they make all the aspirins, so three days into the war we all have splitting headaches and won't be able to man the drones and all the rest of it and if you have -- that's what the most important issue of the day h was. six months on, if you had to name the least important issue of the day, what would you come up with? moving the washington monument, renaming eskimo pie, the sierra club 86 thing its founder because 14 years after his death an acquaintance of his had something to do with the eugenics movement. there's no comparison to this.

you have a big issue of the day, china got the world out from under us while we were talking about transgender bathrooms and now six months later we are just talking about renaming eskimo pie and whether we should just take everybody down and leave empty plinths wall-to-wall. >> tucker: you make a solid point that we should feel good about, if you're looking for the world headquarters of illiterate graffiti, you're in it. >> i think that's -- i think we should read -- there's only three or four slogans, but they're everywhere now. they've mastered it. i think actually a cab, aca b. i can't say what it standsll fo, so the ability of these people to actually spell a four-letter word like that is impressive given that all the schools have been closed for six months. so there something to be said for that. >> tucker: a lot of vowels and thatfo word.

also, sadness when you were gone, nancy pelosi was entrapped in a conspiracy orchestrated by far right cabal of hairstylists. wondering if adam schiff is the one to untangle this not of deceit and conspiracy. >> well, i'm inclined to think that nancy here -- you know, the problem here is that our rulers are not bound by the rules they impose on us.a justin trudeau getting into the old blackface and singing couple of courses, robert e. lee and to relieve the stress of virtue signaling all day long. but this is actually worse now because they're not being bound by the rules they impose on us, which i things like getting a haircut, opening the door of your business, leaving the house.ou and so they've taken this whole

thing of not being imposed by the rules they impose upon us to a whole new level. and it's one thing for jonathan and governor northam into tape around in blackface but when it's getting a haircut, when it's getting black hair, as lots of women across america would like to get right now, and they can't get it, but nancy pelosii can. that's taking the whole contempt for the citizenry to a whole other level. >> tucker: and then she attacked the owner of the salon who was going broke because of the restrictions that pelosi both supports and flouts. if that's kind of the icing on the hypocrisy cake. >> this woman hasn't been allowed to do her job -- the last time i was here we waited for two weeks to flatten the curve. the two weeks to flatten the curve is now about to enter its third quarter, so we've adopted' some kind of new decimal

calendar where you're stuck in the curve flattening fortnight for the end of the year. and the willingness of the citizenry to accept this is actually astonishing to me and it can't actually go on. there's nothing -- there's nothing that is more demoralizing than seeing just ordinary activities made illegal in the citizenry accepting it. >> tucker: give me your 10-second take on the news dominating the country tonight, the conversation between chris cuomo and cnn and the disgraced felonious lawyer michael cohen, which we played last time on the show, did you catch that? >> well, i did catch that and i have to say, chris cuomo's ratings would probably be a lot healthier if you did the show in michael cohen mode. cnn has had notorious double acts, badus double acts throught

its history as you well know, trucker. i won't mention any. but in this case, i think actually cuomo and michael cohen one would be the way to go for cnn. >> tucker: that is a -- i actually like chris cuomo onn that reporting --id >> that's authentic. that's authentic cuomo. >> tucker: his employers did not feel that way. mark steyn, we're so glad your back, thank you. >> thanks a lot, tucker, great to be with you. >> tucker: a church demanding its worshipers were announce their white privilege. we've got the video of that. christianity revived, just ahead. ♪

>> tucker: if you've been online recently you've probably seene this, if you type antifa.com at your browser, you go automatically to the joe biden for president -- nt for.com is linked directly to

joebiden.com. it's not and they're not remer, we just did it. you're not supposed to think anything about this. you've been commanded not to. writers is to to fact-check reassuring you that this is not proof of a connection among the two and no, it's not proof. seems unlikely that the biden campaign sets this up. the biden campaign is almost surely benefiting from it as some percentage of its voters go on the internet looking for directions on how to make urine bombs and then wind up on the web page trying to give money. the question is why hasn't the biden campaign issued a statement about a? why hasn't biden disavowed it? for that matter, why hasn't biden disavowed nt for itself? if the address ku klux klan.com brought you to donald trump website you would be confident they're not issuing a fact-check telling you it's no big deal. at a press conference today, his handlers finally allowed them to answer some questions. he was asked about the violence in cities like portland and kenosha and t he had yet another opportunity to condemn antifa as well as blm.

both antifa and blm are extremist organizations that promote violence, but biden did not condemn them, he did the opposite. remember the psychopaths who cheered when a trump supporter was assassinated in portland over the weekend. we showed you the tape on monday. joe biden essentially said he agreed with them. he said the dead guy asked for it. watchh this. >> i think what happened in portland where one of the trump guys riding along in vans inciting response and shooting rubber bullets i guess or paintballs. apparently someone shot by someone in the crowd with a bullet, killed. i think that person should meet the legal requirements whatever that calls for. should be investigated and it should follow through on what needs to be done. >> tucker: someone should make an ad out of that. it's remarkable. look how hard he's trying not to say a single -- not one -- cross or critical word about a

murderer. the guy who assassinated an american on the streets, says joe biden should "meet legal requirements." what is that? why not just say it's wrong to shoot people for supporting my opponent? i don't want my campaign associated with people like this, with murderers and criminals. simple. but joe biden won't say that. he won't say anything like that ever. you just saw him go to great pains not to even suggest that. and you know why, joe biden can't disavow antifa, can't disavow blm, despite the fact that both promote violence, because joe biden benefits from antifa and blm. stop lying about it, that's what happened. at a catholic mass on monday, -- asked attendees to join him in a new kind of catechism, one for racial justice. he led our prayer denouncing white privilege. the service was live streamed. there were images ofre george floyd and other holy people,

watch. >> to affirm that white privilege isir unfair and harmfl to those who have it into those who who do not, yes. do you affirm that white privilege and the culture what's up or missing must be dismantled wherever it is present? yes. will you strive to understand more deeply the injustice and suffering white privilege and weitzer pharmacy pharmacy cause? yes. will you strive to eliminate rachel presidents from your thoughts and actions so that you can better promote the racial justice efforts of our church? yes. >> tucker: wow. that's 2020 in 20 seconds. 2 this is a religion. the left has won. for years, they have tried to replace god with political orthodoxy. and now they've succeeded. this has been their goal. they'd set it repeatedly. watch. >> it's really sad, we have to be very prayerful, i prefer the president all the time but i also pray that god will illuminate him to see right from wrong. it's very problematic.

>> and so god does not expect you to vote for people who will ultimately hurt you and other humans around you. >> it's also important that we stop seeing religion used as a kind of cudgel, as if god belonged to a political party and if he did, i can imagine it would be the one that is the president in the white house. >> tucker: he's on joe biden inside. remember when they use to attack jerry falwell for saying stuff like that and if he ever said it, shouldn't have said it, because it's wrong to pretend god is on theor side of a political party, they're not ashamed to do it themselves. best-selling author thought a lot about these questions. he's written a new book, donald and the fakeness. joins us tonight. eric, thanks so much for coming on. the video of the catholic mass in which the creed has been replaced by talking points from blm really should make us think. >> well, it's stroking violence,

if i can coin a phrase. i'll be honest with you, if they had a swastika on the altar, it would be no different. churches have always -- christians have always been at the forefront of fighting racism and slavery. if there is no question about that. we need to understand that the civil rights movement in this country and the abolition movement in europe and in this country was led by christians. but we arere seeing here is something else entirely. the people who are using these new terms, systemic racism or white privilege, these arese marxists. these people not only don't believe in god, they hate godd, and on the website, the blm website, they reject just about everything a christian would say, so what they are doing now is a power play. they want to hollow out the church from the inside because the real church as their enemy this kind of a church that will do this kinds of nonsense of course is perfect for them, but we saw this unfortunately -- i wrote a book about

[indiscernible] being a christian in the 30s, seeing the nazis do this. they didn't say we are atheists, we don't believe in god. they wouldld come in and they would effectively co-opt the churches, but force the churches to play along just enough so that slowly they could confuse people and take over and what we are seeing right now is exactly that. when you're using these kinds of terms, i want to say to every pastor, every christian in america, this is something, if you do not reject this with everything you have, you are bringing about the death of christian faith in america i'm a witch by the way is the only hope for people who think racism is wrong. it is only the bible that says we are made in god's image. ask marxists if they believe in god's image. ask them. what did karl marx say about racist?

he was a vicious racist, karl marx. so marxists are just doing this to get power. they have no values, they couldn't care less about whether we are made in god's image, they don't believe in it, but they are using pastors like this in churches like this -- and listen, there are many good christians and good pastors who are going along with this thinking they're doing a good thing. i want to say to them, you are writing on the back of a tiger. that tiger will eat you. that tiger hates you and is using you right now. this is a warning to every american that is what's going on. i read about it in my book but it is absolutely chilling, that video, and what i read in the article, absolutely chilling. they are taking over churches, a don't let it happen to your church. >> tucker: our only hope is that god created us all equal, all equal. we all have equal value, all lives matter, that's the christian message. eric, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: with plated tape for you last night of disgrace

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♪ >> tucker: last night, we played you tape of a conversation between disgraced, followed lawyer michael cohen and his good pal cnn anchor chris comeau. in the tape you heard cuomo complain that reporters have been trying to find women who have accused cuomo of sexual harassment, barely touching them in elevators. we send the tape to cnn and asked some pretty obvious question. who exactly are these women and do you believe their claims? sienna never got back to us, they have not commented publicly so far on it, but today we heard that chris cuomo is in trouble with his employer. we are not sure what that means but we hope and we say this with total sincerity, we hope that cnn isn't thinking of firing chris cuomo of the tape we aired. not every claim of sexual harassment is true. we can tell you that first hand. should never unquestioningly

believed an allegation just because of the biological makeup of the person who levels it. believe all women, believe all men! it's insane. always use reason to assess what you hear. always ask questions. never swallow any claim hole. anyone who tells you that you are required to believe something is your enemy. flip them the bird and think for yourself. people who say you must believe aren't interested in what is true, they are trying to manipulate you. cnn is trying to manipulate you and that is why they hurt people who question the ruling class orthodoxy. maybe this experience, the staple force them to pause and rethink what they are doing. maybe the dwarf king will finally tell his gargoyles to stop with the snap judgments. we hope so. one other thing and this applies to chris cuomo specifically. you shouldn't punish a man for being sexy. the unblinking eyes, the

beguiling literacy. that is who chris cuomo is. it's not his fault the ladies go crazy. last night in massachusetts, sandy cortez backed incumbent senator markey and he won, defeating joe kennedy the third. that made joe kennedy the third first candidate to lose an election ever in massachusetts. but the loss had deeper implications. nancy pelosi was busy with her hair salon so she didn't notice. but what does this tell us about who is in charge, who has the ear of democratic voters? dana perino has been watching closely. she hosts "the daily briefing" on fox of course he enjoins us every week. are we reading too much into this result? does this mean something, do you think? >> i think that everything is a little bit of a clue, and i think that we won't know a lot until we have some years behind us and can look back. but i think you'd agree that we are living in the middle of a

political realignment and i have to say, i feel like it's happening pretty quickly. i mean, for a kennedy to lose for the first time in massachusetts history, he ran a pretty good race, he got some endorsements, but think about it, ed markey was a congressman, has been a congressman since 1976, okay? he 78 years old, he's been in congress for 44 years. my first job on capitol hill, our congressional office was across the hall from his and that was 1995. i feel like wow, this guy has been in office for a long time. when joe kennedy said he was going to primary him i thought while matt, that's going to be interesting. i guess i assumed younger people would go along with him but that wasn't to be because early on, ed markey took up the green new deal in alexandria ocasio-cortez, will never forget that. she's very loyal and she's very smart and she brought all those voters along and they were able to basically do a whole makeover, who was able to run a

pretty good race, and he won. >> tucker: i've known ed markey since i was a kid, just like you. one of the most charming people in congress, i've got to be honest and say that, as you know. but ed markey knows which way the wind is blowing and he moved hard left because his party has moved hard left. he outflanked a kennedy on the left. maybe that is the lesson here. >> there's another thing to think about, though. we're talking about a massachusetts race, what does this mean in the larger picture for 2020? ed markey can kick back, he's going to wins general election and he will be in the senate for the next six years. joe biden doesn't have that luxury. he doesn't have the left fully locked up and he needs to move to the center in order to get the other boats. while this political realignment is happening in some states, and alexandria ocasio-cortez, running in new hampshire and massachusetts that just featured her. she is smart, and watch to see what she has done in 2024 when

she will be old enough to run for president. >> tucker: i don't think there's any question about that. and i look forward to that, i have to say. >> i think it will be fun. >> tucker: dana perino, great to see you. several democratic mayors and parts of the country have broken with their party and are supporting president trump. that's not something you probably expected. one of them joined us after the break to explain why. go go go ♪ go go go go on a real vacation. visit go rving.com or your nearest rv dealer.

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>> ♪ >> tucker: the mayor of bopit, minnesota. a town of 1500. one of several democratic mayors who are supporting the president's reelection. why? they say joe biden and the democratic party are not doing enough for the working class. she joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. i appreciate it. it's not a small thing for a democrat to announce on

television she is supporting the most hated republican among democrats ever. why are you doing that? >> that's a very good point. it's not a matter of who we are supporting. it's a matter of who the democratic party is representing right now. president trump is supporting our mining ways and rights and everything else we stand for up here. we are hard working individuals. we have an amazing work force. we don't see the backing with the minerals we have. everything that supports the green deal energy that everyone wants right now, we are just not seeing the support on the other side. we are hard working class up here. this is what we have up here. you have to take advantage of what you have. this is the route we are going. we feel like the democratic party left us and not us leaving

them. >> tucker: you can't have energy of any kind without copper. your part of minnesota has been for 100 years a democratic strong hold. what kind of response are you getting from your voters? >> i am getting a lot of support which is very encouraging. it's a big step for a small town for someone to make a bold move like that. yes, it is what it is. i am standing up for the people that understand where we are coming from and what we want to accomplish. this is where we are going. we want to continue living up here. we don't want back lash from other political parties. our small town has a budget of what new york has for office supplies. we are trying to put in a new water treatment system and put a camp ground in. i don't want political backlash where our city doesn't get funding.

it's a matter of farming what we have and do it safely and responsibly. we don't want to get minerals from somewhere where they have child labor working and no safety standards. we have it here. with at strictist environment standards and i would rather drink the water here than other areas. >> tucker: don't drink it in washington, d.c. it's filthy. for 100 years the democratic party represented the people in your town. now they are not. what happened? >> a lot is happening. we have been fighting for tariffs and changes in legislation and things like that. people -- china is able to buy steel. their mining companies are

subsidized and ours are not. i want to see the working class up here doing the job they can do. >> tucker: that's a lot of talk about who built america and your part of the country has a legitimate claim on that. >> absolutely. mining up here for 150 years and still able to drink our water. if anyone is a better steward of the environment they might want to come learn from us. >> tucker: anybody who says they care about the environment and doesn't go outside every should exit the conversation. mayor, thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: we are out of time. so much going on. we could do 5 hours. back tomorrow night 8 p.m. the

show that is the sworn enemy of of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. now it's time for the hour that follows us normally theyou. >> welcome to "hannity." i am trey gowdy in for sean. we begin with breaking news. joe biden left the basement today in a rare public appearance on the campaign trail. biden delivered a short speech in delaware and actually took a few questions from reporters but those questions were hand picked by campaign staffers. watch this. >> stop your boast about you can you do anything. you always talk about your ability to negotiate. negotiate a deal. a deal for somebody other than yourself.