tv Americas News Headquarters FOX News September 5, 2020 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
11:00 am
weather changes in denver, enjoy the last summer heat of labor day weekend. we will see you back here tomorrow. alicia: thank you, have a good one, everyone. ♪ ♪ eric: another explosive report president trump belittled men and women who had given ultimate sacrifice losing their lives for the service of our nation. in one case to mark 100 years of the end of world war i, the president was reported as saying a cemetery for american marines killed in the crucial battle of bellowwood was, quote, filled with losers. but the president and advisers now strongly denying all of this and other claims saying it never happened and is all a political hit job timed for the election.
11:01 am
hello, everyone, welcome to america's news headquarters, i'm eric sean, hi, arthel. arthel: hello, everyone, i'm arthel neville, current and former white house officials continue to come out in the president's defense as joe biden gets aim at the reporter remarks, we have team fox coverage. jacqui heinrich following the biden campaign but we will begin with david spunt because he's live at the white house. david, what's the president saying today? david: arthel, the president and staff members denying charges and pointing to the fact that president trump has great track members record with members to have military and tweeting pictures of president trump with members to have military. november will mark 2 years since this allegedly this happened in france. the president did visit seren cemetery but not the amon cemetery, the white house says it was strictly a weather call, it was too risky to have the
11:02 am
president 90 minutes away from air force one. >> it's a disgrace that somebody is allowed to write things like that. it could have been, you know, a lot of times the sources aren't sources that don't exist and sometimes the sources are just people with disgruntled former so-called employees. david: fox news heard from two u.s. officials who were on the trip to france, one was in the meeting to plan the trip to the cemetery and the person confirmed that parts of the atlantic article but not the part about saying, quote, suckers and losers, jennifer did report a former trump administration official told her when the president spoke about the vietnam war he said, quote, it was a stupid war and anyone who went was a sucker, end quote, the source also claims that the president said, quote, what's in it for them, they don't make any money. the official did not go on the record to be named. now national security adviser
11:03 am
john bolton, arthel, was on the trip to france and he wrote a book saying the president is essentially unfit to hold the highest office in the count are you but he did not include the allegations from the atlantic, why, john bolton says he never heard the president say such things. >> he decided not to do it because of john kelly's recommendation it was a entirely a weather-related decision and i thought the proper thing to do. david: the white house did put out e-mail written by the president's military aid from that day. it reads, team, we are a bad weather call, chief of to have, meaning kelly would replace potus for today's ceremony, please advise if any questions. now, there are also ten different staffers the trump campaign have put on the record who were in france at the time who were saying this simply is not true and the white house looking to focus on the economy, 1.4 million jobs added in august, those of the stories the
11:04 am
white house wants to talk about, however, this is certainly a major story here at the white house. arthel. arthel: all right, david spunt, we will take it back here, thanks, david. eric. eric: arthel, let's go to jackry -- jackie, what's the response from the democratic nominee? >> reporter: campaign committee is pointing to relative silence from the president's republican allies in the senate in defending him and yesterday the former vice president joe biden challenged these claims, denials from the white house saying americans have heard president trump disparage heros like john mccain before and witnessed help support military and citing russia place bounties on soldiers' heads. purple heart veteran weighed in over allegation president trump wanted to exclude wounded warriors from planned military
11:05 am
parade. >> the american people know that no one should be ashamed of a disability and that wounded warriors should be honored instead of hidden from view. i take my wheelchair and my legs over donald trump's supposed bone spurs any day. >> reporter: duckworth is mentioning president trump deferment. senator kamala harris told cnn today she would not trust the president's word alone on a potential coronavirus vaccine. cnn reported thursday trump pressured health officials to accelerate vaccine development to convince voters of an end to the pandemic that threatened his reelection. >> if past is prologue that they will not, they'll be suppressed, they would be sidelined because he's looking at election coming up in less than 60 days and -- and he's grasping for whatever he can get to pretend that he's been a leader on this issue when
11:06 am
he's not. >> reporter: campaign appearances are ramping up and senator kamala harris is heading to wisconsin on labor day and we just learned joe biden will head to harrisburg, pennsylvania as well that day to speak to unions there, eric. eric: all right, jacui, thanks so much. arthel: we will bring jeff mason, white house correspondent for reuters. our military is america. they are the ultimate patriots, so this reporting resinate at all with the president's base? >> well, i think one of the reasons that you've seen such a strong pushback by the white house, by the campaign and by the president himself is because they're concerned about that. it is -- i mean, we can look over the last 3 and a half plus years, it's pretty hard to -- to reduce support for president trump from his base. i suspect that most of his base
11:07 am
will dismiss the report in the same way the president has as inaccurate and false. that said, it is -- the reason it has legs, arthel, is there's a history and public history of president trump using this type of language before. he referred to john mccain as a loser in 2015 and said that he likes people who aren't -- who don't get captured and that, the president i think has tried to walk back that a little bit over the last few days by saying openly that he disagreed with john mccain but he still respected him. well, he didn't show that respect with his language and that i think is one reason why this report is ringing true for some despite the denials. arthel: let's look at the outer rings of the circles, are there other supporters of the presidents who will see this as sacred line in the sand, you crossed it, you've lost it? >> well, it's certainly possible. in terms of the outer ring you
11:08 am
also have to keep in mind independents. every u.s. presidential election ends upcoming down to that group of undecided voters who wait until the very end to make up their decision on who they are going to vote for, often independents and people who are sort of in between and that's the groups they are trying to court right now and could turn their support for president trump and for joe biden. arthel: i want to play, jeff, some reaction from pete buttigieg and communication director tim. let's listen. >> this is a lot bigger than whether the president went through a ceremony or not. this is a fundamental disrespect that we have seen the president show. we've seen it with our own eyes in the statements he's made in public. it turns out that we've got a lot of people from inside the administration willing to reveal that behind the scenes it's even worse. >> he has built the american builtary back up to where it
11:09 am
should be and standing as the mightiest in the world and he has restored veterans' faith and the health care they've received, better access, better choices and better treatment. that's how president trump approaches the military and shows respect and reverence for members to have military every single day. arthel: okay that was mr. murda, 59 days physical the election day, however, jeff, north carolina started sending out absentee ballots yesterday and you have other states that will begin doing the same over the next few weeks, this election as you well know is expected to break all records in the number of ballots cast early and by mail, so if the report has caused the president to lose some votes, can the president turn this around, what can or should the president do to fix these -- the reporting of this -- the damage that's been done from this report? >> well, he can certainly turn it around. i think 2016 is a prime example
11:10 am
of how late-breaking stories doesn't imperil your chances of winning the election. we all know in 2016 that the access hollywood broke quite late and president trump still won and i think a lot of people thought that that would be sort of the death penalty in the campaign and it wasn't. so having, i mean, it's amazing to me that you say it's only 59 days, it's really coming up quickly but that is still, arthel, a long time. arthel: it is. >> a lot can happen on so many things, stories like this as i said before have legs but voters are also going to be considering, of course, what's going on with the coronavirus and what's going on with the coronavirus and all of those things have a potential to have some changes economically and -- and perhaps vaccine progress on a vaccine between now and november third, all of those things will have an impact on -- on voters when they go to the voting booths or when they fill out mail-in ballots. arthel: absolutely, 59 days is a long time especially considering
11:11 am
the way things run in rapid speed these days. jeff mason, thank you very much. >> thank you. arthel: eric. eric: arthel, violence and unrest erupted in rochester, new york last night, third straight night of protests following police involved death of daniel prude, 11 protestors arrested and 3 officers in scuffles. protestors smashed windows and damaged store fronts after black lives matter protest there, reports say it was sponsored by the new african black panther party and revolutionary abolitionist movement. police arresting at least 8 people last night. alex hogan live in new york city and now at union square in manhattan which is a historic place for people to gather to air their grievances publicly, so alex, what does it look like where you are now?
11:12 am
>> alex. so far it's been peaceful and signs end to racism and fascism and it's part of continued effort of protest that is we have seen throughout the summer but last night we should note one protest did take a turn. nypd arresting 8 people on various charges after looting and smashed windows. in rochester community anger after release of daniel prude, died 47 days later from complications of breathing and physical restraints. medical experts ruling a homicide. activists continue to demand justice and major policy changes. the mayor there agrees that the city and police failed him. >> it can't be a justice system for black people and a justice system for white people, that there isn't a health system for white people and a health system for black people, that there isn't a school system for black
11:13 am
kids and a school system for white kids. >> alex: in cleveland the investigation continues in the shooting death of the detective, feeling the loss of a member in line of duty felt on the same day another officer took his own life, calvin williams calling this a terrible tragedy. take a listen. >> two officers in one night is really bad. he was what we call policeman policeman, he worked hard for the city they loved. >> police under the country are under high scrutiny after continued protests that started memorial day weekend after the killing of george floyd and now continuing today through labor day weekend, eric. eric: and alex, what are the organizers where you are at, what are they saying on what
11:14 am
they expect today and what they want? >> alex: well, they are saying they want 60 days of continued protests, the 59th day leading up to the election. i should note that all of these organizations are coming together, this is not one group with one vision, they have various opinions when it comes to the role that they want police to take but they are united on one demand, they want to vote president trump out of office. this gathering is expected to feature speakers and we are hearing one behind us right now and continued effort and they say will not stop until they do see that change, eric. eric: as we watch video of the protest last night that will continue, alex, thank you. arthel. arthel: eric, let's go to portland where police are declaring unlawful assembly last night and arrested more than 2 dozen people after they marched to a police building. this is coming as the city marks 100 straight nights of protests
11:15 am
this week. matt finn is there. matt, could protestors face even tougher charges? matt: any protestor that state police arrested could face strong federal charges but the u.s. marshal's office has deputized police in portland. last night police made 27 arrests, crowd of 200 people marched to police precinct and threw rocks and bottles at police, police repeatedly used loud speakers telling people to clear the streets for more than 90 minutes and police used smoke bombs and protestors responded throwing balloons with paint at officers and portland police have also released this new picture of a person that was at the scene of the fatal shooting in portland last week. they are asking the public to help identify the person. the individual appears to have a
11:16 am
blank 12 shirt on which is a profanity against police and the pictures show appear to be police shooter lying and wait in the right side of the screen on white shirt hiding before he shot 39-year-old patriot prayer and president trump supporter and documents reveal that danielson had spray and was armed with a handgun but police say it was not fired or taken out of his holster. we spoke to the victim's friend the founder of patron prayer. the friend calls shooting assassination and say it is victim was in the right to be armed. >> it doesn't change anything. it doesn't matter what he had on him, they came up behind him and he never had a chance. i've never seen him get angry and never seen him be violent.
11:17 am
>> the organizers say it's meant to be peaceful so hopefully we don't see any type of clashes or dangerous activity here in vancouver, arthel. >> let's hope not. matt finn thank you. eric: it's happening in one mayor 2020 battleground state much of it surrounding what's called the drop boxes ahead. we will take a look at the fight over drop box and the balance to strike -- the efforts to strike a balance between getting your vote counted and election security. the open road is open again. and wherever you're headed, choice hotels is there. book direct at choicehotels.com.
11:18 am
11:19 am
you can adjust your comfortst on both sides... your sleepleep numnumber setting.ed can it help me fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but can it help keep me asleep? absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. will it help me keep up with mom? you got this. so you can really promise better sleep? not promise... prove. and now, all beds are on sale. save 50% on the sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed. plus 0% interest for 36 months & free premium delivery when you add a base. ends labor day. ♪you know limu,ug after all these years it's the ones that got away that haunt you the most. [ squawks ] 'cause you're not like everybody else. that's why liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. what?
11:20 am
oh, i said... uh, this is my floor. nooo! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ ♪ you can go your own way ♪ go your own way your wireless. your rules. only xfinity mobile lets you choose shared data, unlimited or a mix of each. and switch anytime so you only pay for the data you need. switch and save $400 a year on your wireless bill. plus, get $400 off when you buy the new samsung galaxy note20 ultra 5g.
11:21 am
arthel: federal judge placing 14-day ban on the use of some crowd enforcement tactics on peaceful protestors. they include using striking weapons or rubber bullets, chemical agents, chokeholds or ramming with a vehicle, tightening zip ties or handcuffs and arresting crowds without probable cause. the judge ruling with the activist group yesterday in lawsuit accusing the detroit police department of using
11:22 am
excessive force. ♪ ♪ eric: well, the presidential race is being fought in key battleground state of pennsylvania. this as election officials will prepare for record-number of people voting by mail. already more than 1 and a half million people voted in the primary by putting a stamp on their ballot. but you know one fight between democrats and republicans centers around ballot boxes. you know, you can go and put your ballot directly in the box, politicians are at odds over whether they should be out, where they should be put and how many of them there should be. president trump has slammed security of ballot boxes in campaign says that mail-in drop boxes should not be used at all except they say inside country election offices. joining us for more on this, national political reporter for the philadelphia inquirer jonathan joins us now. jonathan, so, man, they are really struggling over what to do about ballot boxes, what do
11:23 am
both sides say? >> yeah, this is a fight, one of many fights that are going on over the mechanics of the election in pennsylvania and how people will actually cast their ballots in pennsylvania and as you once mentioned the trump campaign, the republican national committee and also the republican state legislator wants to ban the boxes. they argue that they are not secure, that they could be vulnerable to fraud. democrats want these boxes, philadelphia is planning to have, i believe, 15 of these boxes around so that people can drop off their ballots in advance of election day and you can seek places out instead of being in crowded polling place and they argue that this makes it easier to vote and allows eligible people another option to cast their vote and ballot boxes have been used in a number of state that is vote almost entirely by mail and there's little if any evidence of significant fraud involved with
11:24 am
them. eric: well, you know, the president has called them security disaster, he's even said that he thinks people can vote more than once by using ballot boxes and he questions, you know, who picks them up, what are the chances of more ballot boxes being put out on the streets of pennsylvania and especially with concerns of philadelphia that have seen voter fraud before? >> yeah, there's no significant evidence of fraud involving ballot boxes. they haven't used any. the claim he's made a number of times, yes, there have been instances of voter fraud, there was an instance recently that the president and other people have made -- have try today emphasize and highlight of poll worker who was stuffing ballot boxes, but that's a different issue. that's not the drop box that is were involved in that. again, there are 5 states that vote almost entirely by mail and use drop boxes as part of the
11:25 am
process and the number of cases is maybe talking a few dozen total allegations out of tens of millions of votes that have been cast in those -- in those states, so there is not evidence of significant voter fraud involved with ballot boxes, drop boxes or voting by mail. eric: there's a push around the country for more of the ballot boxes. in new york state, new york state does not have them but just last week state senator proposed putting them in new york, there's a bill in new york to do just that, new york does not have them yet, here is what the state senator said about trying to do it here too. >> they can be placed in central locations, outside of city halls, town halls, libraries, schools, subways, post offices, bus stations, civic centers and they can be made up to 24 hours a day available and they could again working before early voting, local boards to provide
11:26 am
stats or monitor and set up surveillance cameras to watch over them and make sure they are bolster to the ground and temper-proof. >> that was lucas tomlinson. that was new york senator, by the way. we don't know yet if new york will get them but at the end what do you think will happen in your state, what's your prediction? >> yeah, it's very difficult to say because part of this is in the courts and so a lot could be decided by judges and how they see this issue and then also on a parallel track in legislature where the republican legislature would like to ban these drop boxes, that's part of a bigger piece of legislation but there's the democratic governor. he opposes the legislation and so can they reach a compromise? there's really not a lot of time left, only 2 months until
11:27 am
election day. theoretically these boxes would be used in advance so already time is running short and just to kind of note the stakes here, you remember philadelphia is one of a handful of states that will probably decide who is the next president and it was decided by less than 1% point in the last election, so even a small fraction of voters is affected by the outcome here that could really have a significant impact on the entire presidential race. >> that was just like 44,000 votes back in 2016 and finally, jonathan, you know, one thing good is voters if you get ballot boxes, they -- in your state you can track your vote, your ballot online, describe that because not every single state has the sophisticated way to make sure when you voted that your vote was brought in, was counted and the system was smooth. >> yeah, this is something that state officials and election officials are really promoting. you can go to the department of
11:28 am
state website and you enter some information and you can track your ballot as it moves through the process, requested and it's back in and make sure it's counted and because of concerns about the post office and because concerns of mail-in ballots and whether they will arrive in time, officials are encouraging people to use the tracking, to follow -- to follow your own ballot and make sure it is counted and if it is counted then you know you don't need to go to the polls, you don't have to do that, your ballot has been received, so that is one method that hopefully should ease some people's concern and if for some reason their ballot doesn't arrive in time, then they can take some action and cast the provisional ballot at the polls to make sure that their vote is counted. eric: yeah, i mean, if we can track our package on amazon and fedex and ups, we should be able to track the basis of democracy which is our voting ballot. jonathan, good to see you,
11:29 am
thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. arthel: eric, labor day weekend in full swing but it comes with a warning for all americans celebrate safely. ahead how to do just that as coronavirus cases rise in 25 states. [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.
11:32 am
[ beeping ] [ heavy breathing ] breathe more freely with congpowerful claritin-d.you? claritin-d improves nasal airflow two times more than the leading allergy spray at hour one. [ deep inhale ] claritin-d. get more airflow. that cannot be extinguished. it rages on to give us a glimmer of what we can do, and of who we can become.
11:33 am
because hope fuels opportunity. university of phoenix is awarding up to one million dollars in new scholarships through this month. yes, hope is alive and well. see what scholarship you qualify for at phoenix.edu. arthel: time for quick check of the headlines, sounds of hope in beirut where search and rescue teams detected a heart beat and strong breathing under the rubble of a building 32 days since the massive explosion. the blast caused by poorly stored chemicals killed at least 200 people, injured about 5,000 and leveled buildings. college football fans rejoice the season kicking off this weekend with just 77 of major teams in action. players are being tested for coronavirus 3 times a week.
11:34 am
masks are being worn at the sideline and meaning teams like ohio state and penn state and oregon won't be playing this season. sea world reporting it would lay off some of thousands of workers that were furloughed, the exact number is unclear. the company has 12 locations in 5 states. eric: center for disease's control warning about coronavirus risks as labor weekend now gets underway and health officials are asking all of us to be vigilant and be careful to prevent any surge. we've seen surges after other holidays, in fact, dr. anthony fauci has been saying the midwest is especially vulnerable this weekend meanwhile it turns out that half of the country is reporting increases in new infections. charles watson is live in atlanta where the cdc is located with the latest. i mean, charles, experts are concerned like july 4th, like memorial day weekend and when
11:35 am
people gather in barbecues, gatherings, we could see another spike of this weekend, in a couple of weeks. charles: that's right, you know, experts say how americans behave this holiday weekend could determine whether we see coronavirus cases go up or down. the national case load is almost doubled what it is during what it was rather during memorial day weekend. public health officials have seen spikes in cases following mass gatherings like the stergess bike rally that saw 4,000 gathered. health experts are strongly advising people to wear a mask if they find themselves among a crowd of people. >> any situation we have a large number of people traveling getting into congregate settings and that would certainly include a popular travel weekend like labor day weekend, that could lead to factors that could
11:36 am
result in a spike, so, yes, we are concerned it can happen. charles: even though there are lighter crowds traveling this weekend, experts say people should not put their guard down, eric. eric: they say the bike gathering 250 infections and one death of biker in his 60's from that and talk about new vaccines, fast-tracking those and hopefully inch wants a vaccine but is there any way we know now that the trials that are continuing that will be effective and we will get one soon? >> there is not and that's why a lot of public health experts are criticizing the speed at which the trials are moving. now those companies that are working to put those vaccines out to the public are expected to release a joint statement in the coming days, the companies reportedly to seek federal approval of a vaccine until it is proven to be safe and effective in humans. public health efficiency sized the cdc for allegedly rushing
11:37 am
through vaccine testing stages after director robert redfield told states to be prepared to distribute coronavirus vaccine as early as november. the director writing in a letter to nation's governors the requirements you may be asked to waive in order to expedite vaccine distribution will not compromise the safety or integrity of the product being distributed and the directive says he expects to be readily available as early as november. eric: yeah, everyone wants a vaccine but a lot of concern is safe and whether or not the process is being rushed, charles wattton in sat ant lea, thank you. arthel: we are not going to talk about vaccines right now. i want to talk to you about labor day because people are going to do something this holiday weekend, so what is the safest way for people to be
11:38 am
sociable and i know, you know, the limit vary from state to state. from a medical standpoint how many people should you limit your labor day gathering to? >> that's the key, arthel, is safety and during your holiday weekend with your family, with your loved one but doing it safely. depending on where you are and what phase your community is will determine whether the cdc recommends a gathering of ten, a gathering of 50, us u.s. it just depends the event and who is attending that event but ultimately the key is if you can't social distance wear a mask, if you can't physical distance wear a mask. it's been shown that wearing a mask can save 120,000 lives, and i don't know if you saw the model projected about 300,000 deaths by december 1st. when we see during holiday weekend, large of crowds, gatherings, people not social
11:39 am
distancing and not wearing masks, that's when we see spike of cases. this is an opportunistic virus, if you allow it to spread it will and it's still here and it's making its round throughout the nation. we are seeing spikes, arthel, midwest, illinois, kentucky, the dakotas and arkansas. arthel: so this is not a sit-down dinner type holiday. people don't sit down at the same time, they eat hot dogs, burgers, whatever you eat. at any point in the party your get-together somebody will not wear a mask. how do you handle that? >> the recommendations are if you're not able to social distance especially if you're around people you don't know, if you're unable to physical distance 6 to 10 feet then you have to wear your mask especially if you're in high-risk category, underlying heart diseases, asthma, copd,
11:40 am
undergoing chemotherapy, protect yourself, if you're african-american, hispanic, latino, you're at a higher risk of complications and deaths, know your risks so that you cannot only protect others but protect yourself because, arthel, it's important to understand we are approaching flu season and coronavirus is not the only disease that i worry about, there's also influenza, pneumonia, rhino virus and you can be sick with more than just coronavirus, you can have the flu and corona and pneumonia simultaneously and that's just recipe for disaster. arthel: quickly, what about children, teenagers and younger, should they wear masks? doctor: so over the age of 2, under age 2 the cdc does not recommend. children can be carriers and can spread. it's not recommended for a child under the age of 2 to wear a mask, that can be dangerous. and, yes, a child can be
11:41 am
asymptomatic and we all need to take precautions together. arthel: doctor, always pleasure talking to you. you stay safe too, thank you. eric. eric: you go on facebook, yeah, arthel, you go on facebook, twitter or something and you see an ad slamming or an article slamming joe biden and then you see one slamming donald trump, how do you know if it's real or not? we will tell you that straight ahead as there's a new effort to try and stop those russia and other countries from targeting american voters.
11:42 am
11:44 am
whether we see them or not, we need to know that they're always there. for the past 25 years, masimo has been monitoring patients in hospitals around the world so that doctors and nurses can make sure you feel safe. as new challenges have arisen, we've grown to bring that same safety and support to the place that you want to be most. if we've learned nothing else, it's that when challenges arise, there's only one way to rise above. together. masimo. together in hospital, together at home.
11:45 am
11:46 am
that's up from 47% back in february. researchers say one of the main reasons is the coronavirus pandemic which has caused economic uncertainty and widespread unemployment. eric: you know we are getting closer to final stretch of the presidential campaign and man has there been stuff about this on the internet and moves to try to confront disinformation on social media. russia infamous research agency created a fake left-wing outlet and twitter removed several fake accounts that they say were spreading lives about black lives matter movement and russia campaign to have questioned joe biden's mental health. how can we tell what's real and what's not, theresa payne joins us, ceo of cybersecurity firmle solution, are we seeing more propaganda on social media from russia or elsewhere than we did in 2016.
11:47 am
>> we absolutely are and it's not just russia, china, north korea, iran and political operative. eric: when you say political operatives, who is doing this and how can we tell if something that's on the internet that looks real may actually be a russian friend? >> a couple of things to be thinking about, when you see something on social media, 3 trusts sources, one that's local, one that's national and one that's international. you don't see something being reported on all three, even if it has a different sort of slant to the story, chances are it may be part of a manipulation campaign. it's very hard to discern if something do being provided by russian cyber operatives but if you believe it is, you should report it to the social media company that you see that actual campaign taking place on. eric: and i guess, you know, if it's too good to be true it's not. if it's a claim that is just
11:48 am
like too much out there or too slanted one way, would that be a red flag too? >> it is a red flag and i'm so glad that you brought that up, one of the things that i learned in doing the research for my new book manipulated was the reason why the cyber operatives are so effective with that manipulation campaigns is it often times confirms a hidden or secret bias that we have and we were just looking for that one fact to prove our point and in the research that i did a lot of times researchers found that even if you pointed out to somebody that they posted something that was later proven not to be true, they left it up and actually said, well, it proves my point, i will just leave it up. eric: wow, so quickly in terms of the manipulated, your new book, what are you finding and are we getting manipulated? >> good things that news programs like yours are letting public know about manipulation
11:49 am
and misinformation campaigns and how to spot and stop them, but the challenge staying connected is through social media and through digital and the russians, north koreans, chinese and iran know we are all glued to screens to try to stay connect today each other. they know that's where we are and that's how they take advantage of us. eric: you know, it even pulls rioters, i'm going to show you a clip, jack delaney, he's a writer and wrote for a website that turns out to be run by russian internet agency and this is what he said when -- after it was unveiled, quote, the red flags and word coincidences, occurrences began to add up, i've been completely unaware of piece data links to the ira, internet research agency and russians oligarchs, it's important in media environment
11:50 am
this probably won't be the last time something like this will happen. peace data, he thinks he's writing for a news organization and it turns out that, according to officials it's a russian propaganda outlet. i guess if it's -- it fooled a rioters it can fool readers. >> embarrassment to himself and he said you would think as a reporter i would know better, i know how to do research but he really saw an opportunity as freelance writer to write for a new news organization, so the russian cyber operatives, they actually generated brand-new photographs to create fake persona as the editors, if you did a reverse image look up you wouldn't see it was a stocked photograph with models and they actually hired legitimate freelance writers as well as had
11:51 am
fake writers as well and -- and it was very convincing. here is the other thing people need to remember which is why it's so hard to stop this. the business model actually supports this. while democracy dies by having misinformation, manipulation campaign, social media companies make pennies on the click and russian operatives every time somebody clicks on misinformation story, manipulation story, they make pennies on the click and because of that money-making approach it's hard. eric: yeah, and the truth is the casualty. theresa, good to see you, thank you so much, folks, be careful out there as they would say. we have more news and the latest on the kentucky derby straight ahead robinhood believes now is the time to do money.
11:53 am
11:55 am
11:56 am
presence, national guard which is here every year for the kentucky derby. it's even more heightened with so many groups here out today. there have been peaceful protests, a larger group expected to meet to come to the states. earlier there were counter protesters out, many were armed. we are told to do not intend to confront or in any way, get in way of the demonstrations we expect later today. arthel: thank you very much. eric and i are going to take a break, will be back at 4:00 p.m. eastern. >> that's an hour or so
12:00 pm
♪ editorial report, i am paul gigot. all eyes on the swing state of wisconsin this week with president trump and former vice president, joe biden. in the city of kenosha. the scene of sometimes violent protests, since the police shooting of jacob blake. striking different tones, both condemning writing has taken place. >> violent mobs have demolished or damaged 25 businesses, burned down public buildings and through leaks at police officers which they will not stand for. we don't stand for it.
106 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on
![](http://athena.archive.org/0.gif?kind=track_js&track_js_case=control&cache_bust=1624922517)