>> martha: i encourage everyone to watch you on twitter. they can see the whole video and watch more on this case. thank you very much. it's always good to have you with us. that is it for tonight, monday september 7th. happy labor day, everybody. we'll see you back here on tuesday night. ♪ >> tucker: welcome. good evening. this is the special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." happy labor day. it's the last weekend of summer. unfortunately, this is not a normal labor day. it hasn't been a normal summer. and many places, politicians still monitor and control the most intimate details of your life. where you eat, who you spend time with and where, how many relatives who invite to your wedding, whether or not you can hold your parent's hand on their deathbed. the pretext for these controls is the coronavirus. we never thought it would go out on this long. we were told we had 15 days to slow the spread. we thought that meant 15 days.

very literal. but 15 days became 170 days. and still going. people like tony fauci showed up. he seemed reasonable at first. in january, he said that lockdowns of the kind that china impose would never happen in this country. he also said you don't need to wear a mask. he also insisted the virus was a major threat here. he set all of that. watch. >> bottom line, we have to worry about this one, right? >> while, obviously you need to take it seriously and do the kinds of things that the cdc and the department of homeland security are doing. but this is not a major threat to the people in the united states and this is not something that the citizens of the united states should be worried about. >> tucker: don't worry about it. totally fine. that's what tony fauci told us in january peered by the way, we didn't take that out of context. that is not an isolated quote. his latest is march. this march, standing at a

white house coronavirus briefing, tony fauci did not oppose the idea of gathering indoors for an indoor campaign rally. but then more people started dying. federal officials panicked and the elevated tony to a policy advisor. and that was a pivot point in american history. the oath is do no harm and it works in the case of dr. -patient relationship. but it does not work when you're trying to run a government. particularly within a country as big as this one. everything has a trade-off. everything in life has a trade-off between efficiency and the value of human life. if we caught all speed limit to 10 miles per hour, thousands of lives would be saved but we don't do that, sad as it is. we keep the speed limit higher because we understand that some risk, even real risk, potentially fatal risks are necessary if you are going to have a functioning society. that is just the truth. but tony fauci can it see that. he suggested otherwise peered so by april, he was worried that

even shaking hands could be too dangerous. >> i don't think we ever should shake hands ever again to be honest with you. not only would it be good to prevent the coronavirus. it would probably decrease influenza dramatically in this country. >> tucker: okay, so that is extremism. it is not balancing the cost and benefit of a recommendation or mandate. he was figuring this out as he went along, just like the rest of us are. that is not a sin, by the way. everybody does it. this is not new. you weren't allowed to point out some of his recommendations were just silly. not all, but some. the so-called progressives had finally found their leading man and they wanted to protect him at all costs. jithey were trying to destroy h.

asking about questions about the mandates that policymakers were destroying him. it is absurd. but dozens of media outlets repeated that talking point. by the time tony fauci described his lockdown, he said it was "inconvenient," nobody seemed to notice. in fact, politicians began engaging in an arms race to implement their own inconvenient regulations. chicago mayor said that people who went to parties would suffer stronger consequences than people who looted target. watch. >> and this is how it's going to be. we will shut you down. we will cite you and if we need to, we will arrest you and we will take you to jail. >> tucker: if only she was that angry at people shooting each other on the south side than people mugging pedestrians. but, she is not. in los angeles, he went even further than that. he took his cues from the chinese government hosting a

gathering in los angeles will cost you your water and your power service, he decreed. >> these large parties are unsafe and can cost less angelenos their life. >> tucker: no science behind that. of course it is. once you give politicians power, they don't relinquish it. why would they? the standards were very low. this was profoundly empowering. they loved it. the problem was it crushed the country. it crushed people. divorce rates, for example, soared by 38%. at one point, newlywed separations doubled. domestic violence and fatal overdoses increased dramatically. it will be a long time.

it is clear that many people died as a result of it and many more thought about killing themselves. according to cdc numbers, a quarter of all young adults contemplated suicide during this pandemic. reportedly, the only group that found the coronavirus to be empowering were people who were trying to win a presidential campaign and trying to regain control of the senate and the white house. they haven't tried to hide the political benefits to the white house. lockdown. they have leveraged the fear. they called it the hero's act. there were parts of the bill that were good and parts that were transparently political. one part would send out approximately 160 million ballots to any jurisdiction in the state of a majority. that is the vast majority of the united states. they also would legalize the practice of paid political offers to collect an unlimited number of ballots and return unlawful polling stations. iit is illegal in many places

because it is obviously an invitation for voter fraud. it invites opportunity for criminals to intercept. it does open the door to coercion and fraud. understatement of the week. that happened in north carolina. the state invalidated a congressional election last year. so, for the people pushing it, that is not a cautionary tale. it is a blueprint. it's why they are doing it. another coronavirus emergency bill, by the way, dismantle mass incarceration. it would allow for the release of more than 100,000 prisoners, including violent offenders. the chair of the house of homeland security. they all support this. their status would not be revoked unless they are literally caught hurting someone. that is in the bill. they are not making this up.

this allows incarcerated felons to leave prison and stay free unless they "cause bodily injury or use violent force against an individual." so, murderers get to go free but you have to stay inside indefinitely. no one has told the rioters that they are on mandatory home confinement. no, they are out in the street. these commands have been in place since april. we have known that this was basically a political power gr grab. ezekiel emanuel told us on television. watch. >> realistically, covid-19 will be here for the next 18 months or more. we will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications. all that economic pain, we are trying to stop covid-19. the truth is, we have no choice.

we want the truth is we have no choice, meaning, the truth is you have no choice. we are doing this whether you like it or not. no one asked. nobody cares. last month, joe biden said that he will act on the country if the experts tell him to. what experts is he referring to? ezekiel emanuel. this isn't science. it is dystopia. how long can it continue? alex has been charting the course of this in a way that is very unpopular to the authorities. he is the author of "unreported truths about covid-19." thanks for joining us. so, this has happened under a republican administration. we can get a democratic administration next. we don't know. but what does that mean for the lockdown, for social controls not in place? how long do we live with this customer do you have any idea? >> well, i don't know. i would like to throw in one thing about ezekiel emanuel. he is doing good by doing well and doing well by doing good. he has his own consulting firm

where he consults with people for profit to make money from giving them recommendations about how to get around and get past the lockdown advice that he is pushing come of the lockdown that he is pushing. we want to get around it? >> yes. it's basically consulting if you reopen, here is how to reopen safely. so, he is encouraging lockdowns in place and to sort of move back phase by phase. and if you have a business where you actually want to have customers, he and others are going to tell you how you can do that. i think it is easy to sort of underestimate how big a business covid has become. >> tucker: yes. >> lockdown, forget lockdown. testing alone at this point. we are spending almost a billion dollars a week in testing. nothing else. >> tucker: and i am embarrassed, as you said come at first that i didn't know that about ezekiel emanuel. second, that we haven't spent enough time on the show looking

at the economic impact as we continue this. that is profound. we are spending about a billion dollars a week. what you are saying is that there are a lot of reasons people would want this to continue for a long time. >> beyond the politics. so you set the testing of the times one of the few good stories they have had, they really looked at this thing we are doing with the testing where the tests are almost manipulated to come back positive a lot of the time. and if you look at how much virus is really in the original sample, it's a tiny tiny amount. and then we have thousands and thousands of tests coming back positive that might not actually mean anything. guess what? people ezekiel emanuel say now we have to continue testing. i believe that joseph called that a catch-22. >> tucker: [laughs] >> so, that's a problem. i mean, he literally did. we have to have more tests because the test that we have, we manipulated so they come back positive. you know, so politically,

obviously the democrats sort of staked their future on lockdowns continuing on strong public health measures and saying that this virus is incredibly dangerous to a lot of people and we can't go back to normal. people don't really understand how far outside the international norms united states is becoming. that all over europe, they have taken lockdowns off the table right now even though cases are continuing to rise and a lot of european countries. have come right back. those countries are not saying we are going to lockdown again. i also think people should really look at what happened in the sun belt where there were very few hard restrictions in the southern states and the crisis came and went in july and august. and the people on the left who said we need to lockdown again. there were people calling for more stringent lockdowns dam we had in march and april. they simply ignored what happened there or they said, oh,

it's because of masks. this has gone from we need to shut down society to everybody wears a mask, a mask that may or may not do anything for you than the virus is going to go away. so, which is it? i think the white house really should push people to speak publicly about is this the end of the world or is this something where closing bars and wearing a mask will make it go away? now we have heard both of those things. >> tucker: i think the bigger cost here is the country and its leaders losing the ability to think rationally. do you feel some days when you wake up and you are committed to the scientific method, do you feel like you are going insane with the country is going insane? do you feel like you are one of the only people trying to rigorously think this through in a logical way? >> i mean, i think there are more and more people trying to do that.

i think it is hard because the media spends a lot of time on outlier cases and trying to scare people. i mean, all the stuff we talked about for months is still true. the difference is that right now because of the sun belt, because of some of the stuff that the cdc is now saying, there is no evidence on the other side. so, for a long time the people pushing the lockdown said, if you don't lockdown from the world is going to come to an end." and it was hard for people like me or you to say, it doesn't look like that is true. and by the way, before march, you were not in lockdown. they had this apocalyptic case. guess what? now there is real-world evidence to back up the idea that lockdowns aren't just harmful for all the reasons you said in your opening, but they just don't even work to slow, they may slow the virus but ultimately they don't really change the course of the virus. there is a lot of evidence on the ground about that now. >> tucker: i can't resist asking you really quickly. you ever worried that you will be vindicated on the evidence so that the predictions will come

true but your obituary will describe you as a dangerous -- >> i don't care what they say about me. >> tucker: [laughs] >> look, i don't. i don't. i know you don't either. >> tucker: no, i don't. >> what has happened in places like sweden, and again now in the sun belt, tells the tale. so, people can choose to believe it or not but the facts are that the hospitals in houston were never overrun despite the fact that the public wrote a story saying there were no beds in houston peer that wasn't true then. it's not true now. it will never be true. you and i know it. to be one brave man. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: well, the irony is this was one of the rare shows to warn about the dangerous. we'll show you bu what the warng

signs were on the special edition of the show. musical music of

♪ >> tucker: welcome back to a special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." back in february of this year,

we traveled to the front lines. it was at the university of nebraska. one of the few shows to point out the potential dangers of this virus. locking people inside buildings to die. but you wouldn't have known that if you had watched for example cnn. our media, our public health experts felt like the officials in charge were convinced that the coronavirus was not a problem. at the time, tony fauci's that it was big deal. they said everyone they were racist if they were afraid of a virus from china. elective leaders were convinced that this virus would not affect the country. we set our medical contributor to nebraska to find out what was actually going on. here's what they found. >> how do you assess what the president said and put this news, if you would from california into context for us. >> tucker, i think we are

concerned now about entering another phase of community spread in the united states, as you said. we have some concern about it. but i also, i also want to offer some comfort tonight because i am standing outside the center of the university of nebraska medical center. we have been here for two days and the doctors here, the nurses here, even the patients here are playing the role of investigating this virus. we found out that it is more contagious than the flu. we found out how it is spreading. we found out that these patients are responding to treatment. this new antiviral drug appears to have some benefit to it. these doctors and nurses are leaders around the country. you know what they are doing, tucker? they are getting on the phone, getting on conference calls, and teaching the medical sectors around the country how to deal with the upcoming quarantine situation. take a look. >> i was not frightened until yesterday. >> this footage is from inside

the coronavirus quarantine at the medical nebraska center in omaha. >> this is my room. >> this hospital is at the very nucleus of the american effort to defeat the disease. they just started clinical trials and antiviral medication. we spoke to him. he is running the trials. he is optimistic. >> the data they have available suggests it is promising. >> late last night, the 15th patient arrived. big we saw the patient coming in from sacramento. coronavirus. >> some of the best decisions in the country are right inside here for a green out what the coronavirus is and how to treat it. >> if the coronavirus breaks around the country, are you going to be able to teach? >> we are and we have for many years. >> he is chancellor of the university of nebraska medical center. >> watch what is going on in singapore and western europe,

et cetera. if they can't contain the virus, i would say we are next. speaker dr. gold walked us to the building at the quarantine center were doctors seems to have things all under contro. >> these are the elevators that bring you down to the quarantine unit where the patients are being kept appeared >> in another part of the medical center, we went to the entrancee bio containment unit where coronavirus patients go there in serious condition. >> this is the main entrance to the bio containment unit. >> comanager of the bio containment. >> this door is open. the doors on the inside cannot open. >> the trial is happening inside but most of the action or inaction is back in the quarantine unit where patients wait in solitude to see what the future holds. >> you know, i'm isolated and i have three people a day that come in for breakfast, lunch, dinner. that is the only contact we have. >> tucker, tonight you saw

jerry, who i interviewed. the patient broke but she was and she couldn't get a dentist into help her fix it because of the quarantine. they had to send in -- go back to you. >> tucker: five months after that report, we sent him to the white house. he asked the president directly about new coronavirus therapies and vaccines. through some of his interview in july. >> mr. president, great news today on vaccines. 100 million doses being purchased by the federal government for $2 billion. it seems like therapeutics and vaccines are really proceeding at major speed. >> it's gone very well. i watch you all the time and i u really have a good take on it. you know how important it is. the vaccines are doing well and therapeutics, i mean, you tell me but i almost would prefer the therapeutics even first. you go into the hospital and you make people better. we are doing very well with

other things. the steroids are turning out to be great. plasma is turning out to be really good. you made tremendous progress. that's why you see the death numbers really looking much better. >> more on vaccines. i'm concerned about vaccine compliance in this country. 30% of people said they wouldn't even take this vaccine. as commander in chief and leader of the free world, what would you consider being one of the first to take this vaccine to send a message? >> you know if i'm the first one, he woul they would say he'o selfish. other people would say that's the right thing to say. you know that if i take it first. if i don't take it they will say he doesn't believe in the program. but whatever i think is best, whatever we all agree is best, i would certainly do that. >> i will make you a deal. i will take it. >> we will take it together. [laughs]

>> talk to me about lockdowns. i am, as you know, very disturbed. you are disturbed about the economic, mental, physical, medical cause of lockdowns. what is your view? >> i have watched some of these guys. well, i won't say it. a certain comedian that has been locked in house for a long period of time. he has withered away. he has lost the wit. i would almost like to use him as an example. it is hurting people. these lockdowns are hurting people. we did the right thing, mark. i don't know if you agree, but i think we did. we closed it down. we understood the disease. we didn't know anything about this. this came in. this was new. he understood the disease. we banned china from coming in, which was a good move. in fact, dr. fauci said that i saved tens of thousands of lives. i was the only one who wanted to

do it. everyone said no but i said, you've got to do it because you could see the infection in china. we banned europe from coming in, which was good. we did it right. we closed it up. and now we are opening. and we have learned. for instance, we have learned that the elderly, especially, obviously you can say this better than anybody. the elderly who have diabetes or heart problems, they are really slips u to susceptible. when people like to compare to the flu, because i see the flu numbers, but when i look at flu numbers, i never lost anybody to the flu. over my life i heard many people had the flu. they had the flu. how are you doing? i have the flu. nobody died. i never remember anybody. i have lost 5 people. probably 6, actually, as of this moment, i think. pretty soon. but i have lost 5 friends that went in. one of them tested as one of the

top real estate people. they are successful man. good man too. never into politics until i ran. he became a political wild man. he loved it. but a great man with great spirit. he said, "i tested positive." i said well, that's too bad. but you will be okay. two days later, he went to the hospital. two days later, he died. that has happened on numerous occasions. it probably happened to you with people too. i never remember anything like that. it didn't. i mean, i never remember this happening with the flu. so, this is a very serious thing but we have learned, he was an older guy. perhaps he could have lost a couple of pounds. other people that are healthy, the age of such a big factor. when you look in new jersey, he is liberal but i get along with him very well. great, governor murphy.

he said with the thousands of dads, they had one death under the age of 18. i believe that one person had diabetes. one death out of thousands of people. one death. that is an amazing statistic. so, we wouldn't have known that at the beginning. in all fairness, and you didn't know the elderly would be so badly-hurt. we are really taking care of the elderly population right now at a level that has never happened before. >> are we going to beat this virus? >> we are going to beat it. time. i say it's going to disappear. they say, that's terrible. it's true. it's going to disappear. before it disappears, i think we can knock it out before it disappears. that's what i want. if i have my choice the vaccines or therapeutics, give me therapeutics every time because i would love to walk into a hospital and give everybody something and they start walking out into codays. a vaccine is very good longer term but give me therapeutics.

we are doing very good work therapeutically. >> tucker: no organization was more incompetence than the world health organization. until the white house cut funding this year, america was the single biggest contributor to the organization. here is the director of w.h.o. carrying water, they were aware that it was dangerous. >> i was so impressed in my meeting with president xi. they unnecessarily interfered with international travel and trade. >> tucker: so, in march as the virus was spreading from wuhan around the world, he declared it was a success story. it is a shining city on a hill. he didn't question the data coming from the chinese government because w.h.o. is a

subsidiary of the chinese government. watch this incredible take. >> wuhan reported no new cases for the first time since the outbreak started. wuhan provides hope for the rest of the world that even the most situation can be turned around. >> tucker: what a lie that turned out to be. very few so-called journalists did. we will have more commentary on that, next. ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪ (announcer) once-weekly ozempic® is helping many people with type 2 diabetes like emily lower their blood sugar. a majority of adults who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. here's your a1c. oh! my a1c is under 7! (announcer) and you may lose weight. adults who took ozempic® lost on average up to 12 pounds.

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american code" while trump lived by lies, greed, and selfishness. president trump said biden would "destroy this country and would destroy this economy." agenda reveal going horribly wrong. the advice designed to show blue or pink smoke sparked a wildfire east of los angeles. it quickly grew to 11 and a half square miles. the couple could be financially liable and faced criminal charges if the fire continues to burn. i'm rick leventhal. now back to tucker carlson. had to foxnews.com. ♪ >> tucker: welcome back to a special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." during the most critical stages of the outbreak of the coronavirus, the world health. of the lives of the chinese government. they ignored obvious signs the virus could be a threat to the rest of us.

that led the white house to ask some tough questions like why are we paying for this? the u.s. was the single biggest funder. that is a lot of money to pay to an organization that isn't doing his job. so the president announced that they are pulling money from the organization. we covered their malicious incompetence, including its shameful handling of the nation of taiwan. here is what we said then. while right now, the united states is by far the top funder of the world health organization. we give the organization about $50 million every year. that is double what every country donates for some reason. but for the leaders, there is only one country that matters and it is not us. it is china. right now, taiwan is battling the coronavirus. but they are denied membership from the world health

organization. they can't even have observer status. why is that? people are dying but the world health organization refuses to protect them. i do think that is? because china objects to anyone acknowledging that it is a nation. they have praised china's response. they have repeated the country's laws as faxed to the rest of the world. they knew it was obviously untrue. the world health organization told that lie to the world. they made it worse, not better. and then the world health organization praised their transparency. as the laws were exposed, the subservience has only become more obvious or more naked. they aired an interview with bruce albert. we want to show you this whole thing.

it tells you everything about where this world is going and why you should be really nervous about the government of china. watch this. >> the w.h.o. considers taiwan's numbemembership. hello? >> i'm sorry. i couldn't hear your question. >> okay, let me repeat the question. >> no, that's okay. let's move to another one. >> i'm actually curious. i am talking about taiwan. >> we decided to give him another call to follow up. >> and i just want to see if you can comment a bit on how taiwan has done so far in terms of containing the virus. >> well, we have already talked about china and when you look across all the different areas

of china, they have actually all done quite a job. thank you very much for inviting us to participate. good luck as you go forward with the battle in hong kong. >> tucker: in the middle of the global pandemic, they are refusing to help a country because china told them not to. and then the world health organization, which represents all of us. we paid more than any other country, it is boldly without shame or repeating chinese government propaganda. the man you just saw wasn't just caught in a bad moment over skype. here is another clip of him sucking up to the government of china. >> it is recognized that the world is in your debt. when this disease finishes, we will have a chance to thank the people of wuhan for the role they played. >> tucker: it is beyond disgusting. it is scary. he is the author of the coming collapse of china."

and he joins us tonight. gordon, you have been on this subject for such a long time. does it surprise you that they are keeping the world safe pandemics. they are actually acting as spokesman for the government of china. does that surprise you? >> well, this has been going on for some time, tucker. there have been another of all the things that we've got to be concerned about. he said that he had apsley no reason to question china's numbers. in late january, he gave an interview to the china state media saying that beijing's response was admirable, should be emulated by the rest of the world. and then he said it all showed the superiorit superiority of ss socialist system. china has a totalitarian system. really he was -- this is really despicable

across-the-board. >> tucker: i mean, this really matters. this isn't like nba players. we are in the middle of a pandemic. this is the world health organization. where is bill gates? why isn't he saying anything? why isn't google saying anything? why aren't our leaders saying anything about this? >> you are apsley right. this is dangerous because for the last ten days of january and for the first 15 days of february, the world health organization was parroting beijing's line that no country should impose travel restrictions on china. because there were no travel restrictions, what happened is this virus spread even further around china's borders. what they have done is it actually helped spread the virus around the world and it did on behalf of beijing. >> tucker: it's just, it's just beyond belief.

it's hard to believe that those words are true but they are. thank you for that. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: we have been talking to him for months about the coronavirus. then he got the coronavirus. he joins us next for this special edition to show us what that is like. ♪ yes... the great outdoors is wide open. it's time to expand your family's freedom with the off-road's best... like the only built-in gps that doesn't require a cell connection! upgrade your ride for as little as five dollars a day. polaris. think outside.

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♪ >> tucker: welcome back to the special edition of "tucker carlson tonight." throughout the length of this pandemic, we checked in regularly with dave portnoy did about how he is holding up during the lockdown. recently he had his own scare with the coronavirus. he joins us not to discuss his time in lockdown and what he has learned. i thank you for joining us tonight. so, first i have to ask you about the expended period you spend in bed sick. did you have the virus? >> yeah, so i did. i tested positive. as we are filming this right now, i just ended my quarantine two days ago. i was inside for two straight

weeks, 14 days. when i made the original video saying i felt sick, i didn't know i had it. i think i've had it like eight times. >> tucker: where did you get it? you know? >> no. i was in the hamptons and i was actually with the group. like six or seven of us all tested positive. we were staying together. i would love to know who gave it to me. >> tucker: you were staying with six or seven people at once in the hamptons. i don't feel like i should ask a follow-up question there. i am glad you are okay. >> it's a five bedroom apartment. it wasn't like we were all crammed together. >> tucker: what have you learned from the whole experience? we have been talking about this virus for months. you actually got it. what did you learn? >> i didn't learn anything different than what i thought. i was very tired, exhausted for two days. within the group of us, everybody was affected a little bit differently.

but it was a fluke. it was a cold. i was the oldest of the group. we had everyone from mid 20s to my age. some people got sick. some people felt bad for a day. i was sick for two days and exhausted for really a weekend to have. but the bottom line, you don't have underlying symptoms if you are not already ill or sub sub susceptible. you are going to get over it. it's a real thing if you are elderly or you are health impaired. i think it is a real concern. but for 99% of the country, it acts like the flu. >> tucker: yeah. you say this first hand. one of the reasons i admire your response to the lockdown even though you were shot off in a

apartment. you are mega mobile thanks to online trading. how much richer did you get during the coronavirus lockdown? >> i don't like to talk about money, but my net worth is probably, the stock market, i was never a stockmarket guide guide. never traded. i always looked at finance guys like they were pulling it on me. it seems to go up like 10%. 600 grand today trading. literally today. it's beautiful. i don't know why anyone has a job. all you've got to do is buy stocks and watch them go up. i didn't know that would be the case but it has been. >> tucker: but doesn't it make you a little nervous? you are sitting in your apartment. you make 600 grand. aren't you tempted to cash out and buy a bigger place?

>> you know, i am always tempted. but the nature of my personality, i like pushing things. if i wasn't somebody who always wanted to build more and accumulated more. you don't get mega yachts with 600 grand. >> tucker: [laughs] i asked you what you have learned. you taught the rest of us how we should have spent the last four months. >> we are a capitalist society. hopefully one day i can get back to everybody. >> tucker: call me from your state room if you don't mind. thank you. >> thanks for having me. ♪

>> tucker: another hour gone, tune in to apm, the sworn enemy of smugness, preposterous, and groupthink. we will see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> mark: hello, america. i am mark levin. if this is "life, liberty, & levin" pritt i have a great guest, you may have heard of him before, his name is sean hannity, one of my best, closest, longtime friends. >> sean: it is mutual. there is a reason that i call you the great one. >> mark: this is a very important program. i've known you a long time. we talk a lot about what is going on in this country.

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