live, sarah sanders, byron york and jeff benedict with a tell-all book on the new england patriots. just because tom brady left doesn't mean the great team has left. >> see you back here on the virtual couch tomorrow. >> sandra: fox news alert. frightening images from the deadly wildfires raging out of control in the west killing at least 7 seven in california, oregon and washington including a 1-year-old boy destroying homes there threatening thousands more as fire crews try desperately to keep people safe. >> we are going to see and continue to see a lot of devastation and loss of life. we are in rescue mode right now. what that means is our sole focus is life and safety. keeping the public out of harm's way in front of the fires. that is our sole focus for now.

>> sandra: these new images of san francisco where the fires have turned the skies there a smokey orange. that happening in the middle of the day and even as the nearest flames are more than 200 miles away. we'll have more on this in just a moment. we're just 54 days out until election day. can you believe it, as president trump heads to michigan today for a campaign stop. he is firing back at bob woodward's new book about his first term in office calling it a political hit job. at issue audio tape of the president saying he knew about the severity of the coronavirus in january. >> president trump: it's a very tricky situation. it goes through air, bob, that's always tougher than the

touch. you don't have to touch things. the air, you breathe the air and that's how it is passed and so that's a very tricky one. a very delicate one. it's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus. >> sandra: woodward's book has a lot of reaction this morning weeks before the election. i'm sandra smith. hello, trace. >> trace: good morning to you. good morning, everyone i'm trace gallagher. it quotes president trump saying he knew the coronavirus was highly contagious and more dangerous than the flu while down playing the risk in public. the president defending his remarks saying it was important to express confidence and show calm. >> president trump: this is a disgusting, terrible situation that was -- we don't want to show panic. we won't show panic and that's

what i did. i was open to woodward or anybody else. it's just another political hit job. >> trace: john roberts is live for us on the north lawn. good morning to you. the woodward book made waves at the white house yesterday. what is the president saying? >> more like a tsunami than a wave. get to what the president is saying today and last night about this. i think karl rove really put it well yesterday when he said that every president does a woodward book that he later comes to regret. rove should know. president bush did a book and came to regret it. the president called it a political hit job. revelations that the president in recorded conversations said he knew the coronavirus was very serious but intentionally played it down. here is one of those recorded conversations. >> president trump: i think, bob, really, to be honest with you, i wanted to always play it down. i still like playing it down. i don't want to create a panic.

>> the president insisted he did what he thought was right and that was that on one level he was reacting very strongly to what was going on with the virus but at the same time trying to reassure the public. listen here. >> president trump: what i want to show is i want to show a calmness. ifm owe the leader of the country. i can't be jumping up and down and scaring people. i don't want to scare people. i want people not to panic. that's exactly what i did. if you look at the representatives of joe biden you see what they were saying. they were saying no problem. this won't be a problem. he didn't think it was going to be a problem until months later. he was way late. >> it is unclear what the political fallout will be. joe biden certainly trying to capitalize on it yesterday. listen here. >> he lied, it's wrong. totally irresponsible. totally irresponsible. >> [inaudible question] >> kick him out of office.

>> in an interview with me i was filling in for dana perino dr. fauci defended the president saying he didn't distort any of the information being discussed in the coronavirus task force meetings. in an interview for 60 minutes woodward says the president should have been more forthcoming. listen here. >> the president of the united states has a duty to warn. the public will understand that but i get the feeling that they are not getting the truth, then you are going down the path of deceit and cover-up. >> many people are saying bob woodward had a duty to come forward. if he knew as far back as february and march that what the president was saying according to woodward was different than what the real situation was, that he should have come out and reported it then as opposed to waiting until now so that he could capitalize on it to sell books. trace. >> trace: we'll hear a lot more about this. on capitol hill there are other

accusations of top officials in the trump administration down playing other threats. this time intelligence information when it comes to russian interference in the election. what do we know? >> adam schiff yesterday saying he has received another whistleblower complaint that he will begin to investigate. this one comes from brian murphy, the former head of the department of homeland security's intelligence and analysis division claiming top officials down played the threat of election interference from russia as well as the threat from white supremacists groups. he said he was told to stop and focus on iran and china. murphy also claims he was demoted for raising concerns about it. but in a statement the dhs spokesman is saying we flatly deny that there is any truth to the merits of mr. murphy's claim. we look forward to the result of any investigation and expect it will conclude that no retaliatory action was taken

against mr. murphy. dhs is working to address all threats to the homeland regardless of ideology. murphy was reassigned after compiling and disseminating what were open source intelligence reports about protestors and journalists covering the trump administration response to the protests in portland. we will hear a lot more about this in the days and weeks ahead. basically on capitol hill here we go again. >> trace: john roberts live for us from the white house. thank you. >> sandra: thank you. for more on all this dan henninger deputy of the "wall street journal" editorial page joins us now. joe biden reacting to yesterday's reports. >> he lied to the american people. he knowingly and willingly lied about the threat it posed to the country for months. he knew how dangerous it was. while this deadly disease ripped through our nation he failed to do his job on purpose. >> sandra: problem is, this is

on tape. the president in march talking to a journalist about the severity of the threat and his intentions to downplay the threat of this virus. dan, at least people wondering if he had been outright with this information to the american public, could it have helped stop the spread of this virus earlier on? >> well, i think the issue there is what trump was saying and what the administration was doing. anthony fauci is now on record as saying he doesn't think the president distorted the government's handling of the virus. but that detail is being washed away in this tape of the president talking to bob woodward. the trump supporters i was talking to yesterday are less upset about the substance of what he said than the fact that he talked to bob woodward 18 times. how was that going to end well? it plays right into what is

clearly become the primary biden reelection strategy. to attack donald trump's character. less than a week ago we were all talking about the president's alleged disparagement of the military. i saw -- watched joe biden respond to that. he said if true and then launched into a five-minute attack on the president as if it were all true. and now yesterday reading off a teleprompter joe biden is again ripping into the president's character. one way or another it is not a plus for the president's reelection chances to have the argument focusing on the president's personality insofar as that's the democratic strategy. i think the campaign, the trump campaign has to find a way to move this subject off of the president himself and onto the issue of the president's policies vis-a-vis joe biden's and the democratic party's policies. >> sandra: tees up his biggest

critics to come after him. chuck schumer more reaction. >> we all know president trump puts himself first but this time the consequences were deadly. and when i think about how many people in my state died in february and march and april, it just makes me angry. i cannot believe he deceived the american people the way he did. how many people would still be alive today if he just told americans the truth. >> sandra: tough to avoid the timeline of events of the president on that tape talking about the deadliness of this virus, the severity of this virus more so than the flu and then it is easy to pull up a string of events that followed, public statements from the president saying it is going to be fine. this is like a flu. it will go away. i'm not concerned at all. >> well, sandra, if we go down

this path i suppose we're eventually hopefully the press, if it has the reporting capabilities, will get into the actual substance of what the administration was doing back then, like governments all over the world as they were being hit by this virus. did, in fact, the trump administration absolutely do nothing through that period? was there no preparations being made under the president's orders? that would be damning but i suspect the truth is that the administration was trying to figure out where the virus was going, how they were going to respond, what was needed. and those are the details that i think really are the proof in the pudding here. the administration, the government did respond, the united states did get its hands around the coronavirus. we had 50 state governors trying to do the same thing. at the end of the day, sandra, i'm not so sure that the american people, given the

complexities of the virus, are going to hold that one statement against the president. again, it is not a plus, it is not gaining him votes, but whether it ultimately is the straw that breaks donald trump's back in this reelection bid i really kind of doubt that. >> sandra: the focus has to be also on whether or not lives could have been saved with that information being made more public by the president. the president put out a tweet. bob woodward had my quotes for many months. if he thought they were so bad dangerous didn't he want to save lives? the president just wrote that a few seconds ago. as you write in your piece a trump-biden, how the pandemic and protests are floating the u.s. into a political crisis. final thoughts. >> sandra: yeah, i mean we have a crisis that is taking place with the mail-in ballot

situation. lawsuits being filed all over the country to expand the mail-in ballots even as the postal service says anything mailed within seven days will be a huge problem. federal judges are telling states like georgia they have to open them no matter when they show up. i think the country is sort of blindly rolling towards a political crisis. you have 66% of trump's voters saying they'll vote in person. nearly 75% of biden's voters say they'll mail it in. effectively we have two parallel elections taking place, sandra. you can bet that after election day both biden and trump are going to claim that they won their election. this is a crisis i think needs a lot more attention than it is getting as we roll towards this disaster on november 3. >> sandra: it will continue to get a lot of attention 55 days out to election day. stick around. we'll get the latest white house reaction to all of this and more from vice president

mike pence. he will be joining us next hour. >> trace: more on the wildfires scorching the west now to blame for killing at least seven people including two children in oregon, washington and california. crews trying to get dozens of wildfires under control as they burn up and down the west coast. jeff paul live for us from the bobcat fire in monrovia, california. some fires are really growing at an alarming rate. >> yeah. that of course is rightfully so scaring many of the people who live in communities like here in monrovia when they wake up to the news this fire that's burning behind us, the bobcat fire, has nearly doubled in size. now burning more than nearly 20,000 acres and counting. many remain under an evacuation warning as the flames continue to creep lowser and closer to the foothills communities.

one of more than 20 large fires burning here in california. as you move up the west coast to the pacific northwest, it is the same devastating story. dozens of fires impacting both oregon and washington at least three people were killed in oregon, one in washington in the fast-moving fires. in oregon, they have stretched to nearly 500 square miles in total. roughly the size of phoenix, arizona. the fires have destroyed five small towns as the flames continue to spread. governor says the state has never seen anything like it. >> i want to be up front in saying we expect to see a great deal of loss both in structures and in human lives. this could be the greatest loss of human lives and property due to wildfire in our state's history. >> in northern california authorities have confirmed at least three deaths but as many as 12 in that area are missing.

hundreds have already been rescued via helicopter and even a group of firefighters trying to protect their fire station were injured. and even though the fires are burning a few hundred miles away from the bay area winds have pushed ash and smoke into cities like san francisco creating an eerie sight causing a bright orange sky, something you would see on the planet mars. >> i was wondering what time it was. it looked like doomsday. >> it feels like the end of the world. it is pretty scary. >> now in total here in the west 90 major fires burning right now. burning 5300 square miles which is roughly the size of the state of connecticut, trace. >> trace: dry winter, dry summer. a lot of fuel to burn. jove paul live. >> sandra: we'll continue to watch that. the mayor of rochester new york and police union president calling on each other to resign in the fallout from the death

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>> president trump: what i want to show, i want to show calmness. i'm the leader of the kun tree. i can't be jumping up and down an scaring people. i want people not to panic. that's exactly what i did. if you look at the representatives of joe biden you see what they were saying. they said no problem. >> sandra: president trump defending his response to the coronavirus pandemic after a new book by bob woodward quotes him as admitting that he intentionally down played the danger in public. rachel campos-duffy, good morning to you. thank you for being here. we just had a long conversation with dan henninger from the "wall street journal" about this and he looked at a lot of different sides of it. it is important to hear from dr. fauci himself who takes the back of the president. listen. >> obviously when we would be

speaking to the president we would talk about the cold facts. he would get them. often he would want to make sure that the country doesn't get down and out about things but i don't recall anything that was any gross distortion in things that i spoke to him about. >> sandra: really important reaction from dr. fauci, rachel. you go back to march when dr. fauci said on the record he believed the president was doing everything possible to beat this virus. he called his response the president's response impressive. what do you make of all this, rachel? >> well, interesting to see how democrats, how they respond to fauci's defense of the president because they've so supportive of him and a hero to them. will they listen to him now? i think this whole incident and the way the media ran with this will backfire. they got the democrats with the help of the media got a quick sugar high headline but i think it will backfire. when you look at the facts. this is what the headline is

forcing us to do. look at what actually happened and when you look at what the president did and when you look at what the democrats and joe biden were saying should be done from january up to now, they've been wrong at every turn. and the president has been right. and so you can look starting with shutting down the flights to china, they called that racist and hysterical. at the same moment they were telling people to go out and go to chinatown. joe biden didn't even change his position on the flights to china for another two months. then you look at when the president said i'm not going to do a national lockdown of this economy. i'll leave it up to the states. and he got criticized heavily democrats on that. i think it was a right decision to make. >> sandra: to your point we put together this montage of democrats down playing the virus back in february. here they are in their own words. >> i understand the fear.

we've gone through this before. but let's have some connection to the reality of the situation. >> you should come to chinatown. we think it's very safe to be in chinatown and hope others will come. >> it's not a time to panic about coronavirus, but coronavirus is a serious public health challenge. >> sandra: there is all of that but the president is the president and he receives a daily intelligence briefing, robert o'brien the national security advisor confirmed he told the president in late january, january 28th that this virus would be the biggest national security threat he would face during his presidency. the president talking to bob woodward february 7th said this was deadly stuff. more deadly than your strenuous flu and a series of public events for weeks where the president said it could just go away. the number of cases could go to zero, compared it to the flu,

rachel >> again, january 31st he shut down the flights from china, highly controversial. the president isn't just managing a pandemic. we all want him to do this, has to also manage the economy. keeping a sense of calm, trying to figure out. this is the fog of war, the fog of the pandemic. this was information but there was also conflicting information, a lot of unknowns. as we moved through the decision to allow governors instead of the one size fits all response of the democrats to shut down allowing governors to make those decisions based on what was happening in their state, region and their cities. also even as you move forward right now. he is saying let's open up. it's the democrat cities that are still trying to destroy businesses, shutting down restaurants and salons unnecessarily when we already know how to manage this disease. one other thing -- this virus. one other thing i don't think

the president gets credit for and deserves credit for, the strength of the economy we had going into this pandemic. i don't think we would be able to weather this the way we have. we're already single -- there are a lot of pain but we're at single digit unemployment and moving in the right direction. i believe what the democrats have proposed along the way at every turn has been to destroy our economy because i believe they think that was the president's best card moving into the election. they've politicized it and they're politicizing it right now with these headlines and i believe the president made the right decision. >> sandra: a lot to take in. this is still happening and still something the country is battling and the president is battling. we appreciate you coming on this morning. always good to see you. >> thank you, sandra. >> trace: new weekly jobless numbers just in showing layoffs stuck as historically high levels. what it could mean for the

economic recovery going forward. stu varney will join us and break it down from the fox business network. plus the nfl kicks off its 2020 season tonight with a limited number of fans in the stands. why businesses around stadiums are bracing for a blowback because of it. you try to stay ahead of the mess but scrubbing still takes time. now there's powerwash dish spray it's the faster way to clean as you go just spray, wipe and rinse it cleans grease five times faster dawn powerwash. spray, wipe, rinse.

>> sandra: new weekly jobless numbers are just out. almost 900,000 americans filing for unemployment benefits, a sign that layoffs are still stuck at a historically high level after the covid pandemic flattened the u.s. economy. we're going to bring in stu varney over at fbn. he joins us now. it's sandra. you're with us. we're simulcasting. stu, this is another data point for the u.s. economy. while we still struggle to come out of this pandemic and recover. what does this tell us? >> you are talking about the 884,000 first-time jobless claims reported an hour ago this morning. that's a pretty good number. for the second week in a row we have less than 1 million new jobless claims. so i guess you could say that we have a recovery in progress. this points towards a recovery. it is not particularly vigorous

at this particular moment but we are recovering. i would put a lot more emphasis on what the federal reserve is doing. i don't want to bore everybody. suffice it to say. >> sandra: so unlike you. are we talking the fed with stu varney? >> history is being made, believe me. when the federal reserve is printing trillions of dollars, take notice, please. because a lot of that money ends up obviously going into the economy and onto wall street. and that's part of what you are seeing. dow right now up 155 points. >> sandra: that's right. stuart, we were talking to rachel campos-duffy and brought up the strength of the economy when this pandemic hit and we were looking at robust jobs growth and we were looking at a dow that was continually climbing to record highs and she suggested that perhaps we couldn't weather the storm in the way we are had the economy not been as strong as it was. you have the white house

predicting 20% growth in the last two quarters of the year, stuart. what does this look like? the dow is recovering but millions of americans out of work. >> that's absolutely true. there are millions of people out of work. there is a great deal of money out there in people's bank accounts, $2 trillion at last count. we are recovering. i want to refer to the job situation. i don't think all of those old jobs are going to come back. there will be real changes in the travel industry, for example. hotels, airlines. real changes coming there. there are real changes coming to america's big cities because they've emptied out. i don't think all of us will go back to those offices. so changes in the way we work. changes in the way we travel. changes in what we call entertainment. certainly changes in support

and entertainment across the board. so you've gotten rid of a lot of old jobs. now make way for new jobs in what is emerging as a new technology-driven economy. at the end of this year and well into next year. that i think is what's happening. that's the key factor to remember. especially when we show you what has happened with these big technology stocks. they are still going towards trillion dollar valuations, still going up. extraordinary things. >> sandra: our viewers can't see it but you have the big financial names up. bank of america and goldman sachs, big technology names are thriving. the stock market thriving. you pointed to the massive amount of stimulus. final thoughts what you are hearing about the ability for the stock market rally to last. >> i'm always asked that question. i never give a real answer because i'm not in the business of predicting the stock market's future. i will say this. i have a really big worry about

the election. i can see chaos coming on election day and election month. i've got a big problem if joe biden wins, and especially if he wins and there is a democrat senate. if that happens, i think the stock market has a real problem. and sandra, i will leave it at that. >> sandra: all right. you left us hanging. we'll tune in for more. we'll keep on watching you. thanks for joining us. >> trace: markets are up and football is back. nfl returns tonight with super bowl champions kansas city chiefs taking on the houston texans. 16,000 fans will watch from the fans because of covid-19 restrictions. other stadiums will be completely empty. that's a problem for a lot of local businesses. jeff flock is live for us in chicago with more on that. jeff. >> most of them will be empty, trace. vast majority.

we have a map that perhaps depicts those cities where you can watch a football game in person potentially. those range from jacksonville, to miami, to cleveland, indianapolis, but i say you can if you can get a ticket. that golden ticket could be hard to come by in those places. look at the numbers of fans. you report the number in kansas city but in jacksonville, for example, just 17,000 fans, cleveland 6700 fans is all they'll allow. indianapolis just 2500 fans. so this is as you report a huge piece out of the local economies where people go in places like green bay to go and watch a football game. they come from all over wisconsin, stay in hotels and patronize the restaurants. we talked to the hotel manager of one small hotel in green bay and minced no words when she said it sucks. we typically fill up almost every home game weekend. now every day consists of cancellation phone calls and

apprehension. a lot of impact to those local economies. i leave you on a positive note perhaps. it's a picture -- statue of a man named george alice who survived the 1918 pan i shall flu pandemic and just two years later founded what would become the chicago bears and the national football league. hope perhaps in the air in chicago. trace. >> trace: he was a great one. jeff flock live in chicago. you can catch the nfl on fox this sunday at 1:00 p.m. eastern. the eagles versus washington's football team and the packers face the vikings and the bears go up against the lyons. 4:00 p.m. buccaneers versus saints and cardinals take on the 49ers this sunday on your local fox station and fox sports. >> sandra: we could always use a little hope and football. high number of police chiefs now stepping down as violent protests sweep the country.

how will that affect the public safety in american cities? vice president mike pence will join us next hour 10:30 a.m. eastern time. plus election officials gearing up for an influx of mail-in ballots and how it could delay the outcome of the 2020 race as president trump shares his concerns again. >> president trump: they can't control the ballots on a small congressional race and smaller races even than that and now you are going to control 80 million ballots? i don't think so. ates with progressive's home quote explorer. international hand model jon-jon gets personal. your wayward pinky is grotesque. then a high stakes patty-cake battle royale ends in triumph. you have the upper hands! it's a race to the lowest rate, and so much more. only on "the upper hands."

rioting is not protesting. looting is not protesting. it's lawlessness, plain and simple. and those who do it should be prosecuted. fires are burning, and we have a president who fans the flames. he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia in this country shows how weak he is. violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. it's wrong in every way. if i were president, my language would be less divisive. i'd be looking to lower the temperature in this country, not raise it. donald trump is determined to instill fear in america because donald trump adds fuel to every fire. this is not who we are. i believe we'll be guided by the words of pope john paul ii, words drawn from the scriptures. be not afraid. i'm joe biden and i approve this message.

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million absentee ballots were requested in the state. ohio secretary of state joins me now. you say your state's voting system is strong and secure and county boards of elections are prepared and yet back in april in your primary there were significant problems and you wrote the following to congressional delegation quoting instead of first class mail taking one to three days for delivery we've heard wide reports of it taking as long as seven to nine days. as you can imagine these delays mean it is very possible that many ohioans who have requested a ballot may not receive it in time. so there was some problems in the primary, sir, you acknowledge that. >> well, i acknowledge that the postal service was moving slower than we're accustomed to. they've stepped up. we'll hold them accountable. handling all election mail as first class mail. those are the kind of things people from ohio expect.

we get the absentee ballot requests out to every registered voter much earlier this year. we've already received a million back. >> the interesting thing is absentee ballots can be sent out three days before the election. so in this case in your state they can get them as late on noon on saturday, october 31st. three days. the postal service has warned you, sir, the ballots would likely not be received postmarked in time to be counted. that's a problem. >> it is. i agree with the postal service and we're asking our state legislature for many months to fix that deadline. we're telling people from ohio even though the law says you can wait until noon on saturday that's a very bad idea. we're telling ohio's voters they should request their ballot by the 27th of october to leave time for it to arrive. no reason to wait. now is a great time to get in your request for an absentee ballot. they start going out to voters

october 6. >> trace: why wasn't there any action to change it? >> i suppose you would have to ask them. there are a few changes we've asked them to make. for some members of the legislature they have the sense it is better to leave everything alone with elections. ohio has a strong system for running elections because we have three good choices, in-person voting is available but early voting and a month of absentee voting. pick one and make sure your voice is heard. >> trace: you have ballots postmarked by november 2 can be counted up to 10 days later. let's assume this election is razor thin. what happens then, 10 days to count the mail-in ballots. how do you proceed? >> that's long be the law here in the state of ohio. we believe as long as that ballot is legally cast it deserves to be counted whether it is one of my teammates in the military or people in ohio

that procrastinate. we make it very clear to journalists like yourself and everybody else how many outstanding absentee ballots there are. if the margins are tight you will be able to look at the number of outstanding ballots and make predictions. ohioans know election night results is the unofficial result. it's the official result weeks later that really counts. >> could be a long 10 day wait. thank you, sir. >> sandra: president trump attacking joe biden over his position on police funding. is that helping him at the polls? plus this. >> suspended for five days today for insubordination as a result of wanting to go to school. >> that high school senior suspended for showing up at his school when he was supposed to be at home for remote learning. wait until you hear what happened when he did it again today. sale of the year on the sleep number 360 smart bed.

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>> president trump: i've never seen somebody that could change like biden. i don't think he is aware of what he is even saying to be honest with you. i've never seen anything like it where he talks about defunding the police or not doing much for the police. all of a signed he sees the poll numbers for him and we're going way up. >> trace: president trump slamming joe biden for his stance on defunding the police suggesting the democratic nominee changed his position due to falling poll numbers. a new survey from marquette law school say voters in wisconsin don't agree. biden is leading trump 47-43. let's bring in dnc spokesperson xochitl hinojsa. joe biden has been back and forth on the police thing.

he didn't call for defunding the police but redirecting funds and showing that black americans supported the same number of police officers and maybe increasing it joe biden came out saying maybe we should increase the funding for police. your thoughts. >> joe biden has never supported defunding the police and i know that donald trump wants to go out there and lie to the american people because his poll numbers are going down given his response to covid and the economy and given that he wants to strip americans of healthcare. reality is if you look at the polling and as you mentioned especially there was a fox news poll released last week. if you are looking at most of the battleground states people trust joe biden to keep communities safe over donald trump because if you see the videos that are out there in communities across america, those are -- this is donald trump's america. if you look at the violence, that is donald trump's america. and frankly i do want to point out that joe biden has called

for a $300 million increase to community policing. it the donald trump's budget that would cut half a billion. >> trace: just now in response to the polls joe biden called for as we were talking about there increase the funding when the polls come out and say people support police, joe biden says increase the fungd. you talked about polls. the fox news poll you were talking about for clarity when asked who would you trust more on policing and law and order wisconsin favored joe biden by five points. i want to put the wisconsin average up there. joe biden 49.6. president trump 43.2. there is a little tightening. the votes, the electoral votes in wisconsin you can see 10 delegates. you have this call for -- because this is a person who is in executive wisconsin former executive director of wisconsin republican party who says you have to honor that head-to-head poll and that trump upticked a bit. this race is in the margin of error. wisconsin is in play.

speaking of the marquette law poll only four points in the margin of error dead heat could be. your thoughts. >> well, we've always known this race is going to be tight. that's why they call them battleground place and places like wisconsin, north carolina, florida and michigan are called battleground states. you saw joe biden go to wisconsin. you saw him in michigan yesterday. you will see him in florida next week. you see senator kamala harris in florida today. we know this race is going to be tight. we want to make sure that we're getting our message across. one of the things that you'll hear both candidates talk about significantly is this pandemic and we're almost at about 200,000 people who have died from that pandemic and people are scared and worried as they send their kids back to school. those are the messages that we'll talk about. we'll talk about the economy, the virus and we'll continue to talk about healthcare, the number one issue in election after election. >> trace: i have to go. do you think in hindsight maybe the democrats had a chance to

do over would talk about the violence in the democratic national convention and not ignore it? >> we have talked about the violence. >> trace: at the convention. >> you talked about how he said that rioting isn't protesting and he has condemned this before. we have also heard at our own convention you saw law enforcement in our convention that talked about the majority of law enforcement are good people and they want -- they need the resources to succeed and they support joe biden. >> trace: we're out of time. we appreciate it. thank you. >> sandra: fox news alert. more on the recordings of president trump telling bob woodward in february and march he knew the coronavirus was deadly but wanted to downplay it. the president firing back. vice president mike pence joins us next hour.

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>> sandra: it's a brand-new hour and here is what's happening inside "america's newsroom." >> strengthening winds are fueling wildfires and harsh weather across the west. >> this could be the greatest loss of life and property because of wildfire in our state's history. >> suspended for insubordination. >> he made it to the rest of his classes. at the end of the day the school told him he was suspended. >> my son is being suspended? he needs to be in school every day. virtual learning is not learning.

>> dallas police chief resigning after a three year tenure. hall joining a growing list of police chiefs stepping down in major cities across the country amid all the unrest and calls for police reform. >> we serve the people. we don't serve a politician. >> sandra: more on the top stories in a moment. first joe biden taking a day away from the campaign trail after teeing off on president trump yesterday in michigan jumping on the just-released audio recordings revealing the president down playing the coronavirus pandemic in its early stage. good morning, trace, i'm sandra smith. >> trace: good morning. i'm trace gallagher. there are 54 days left until the election and both sides are stumping in key states. the former vice president's running mate senator kamala harris will head to the swing state of florida today as president trump travels to michigan. the president's visit coming just one day after biden made a

campaign stop there. the democratic nominee calling out the white house's coronavirus response after president trump admitted in audio recordings he wanted to play down the virus to avoid creating a panic. >> this caused people to die. what did he do the whole time? he acknowledged if you breathe it, it is in the air and he won't put on a mask. talking about what do you need social distancing or the mask all about his wealthy friends wouldn't lose money and the stock market wouldn't come down. >> sandra: a long day in south florida. >> and a rainy day as well. a lot of rain this morning and supposed to keep coming back for several hours. critical battleground state of florida taking in a lot of candidate attention this week. president trump visited jupiter on tuesday and today senator kamala harris will be hosting a

round table here at florida memorial university. that is happening around 3:00 eastern. it is being billed as a community conversation with the vice presidential candidate and african-american leaders. she did a similar round table monday in milwaukee, wisconsin, of course, also a key swing state. while harris does that her husband will be meeting with rabbis across town. those will be talking and listening to the issues important to black and jewish leaders. it all precludes former vice president's joe biden's florida visit on tuesday. his first visit to the sunshine state since last october and since the coronavirus pandemic which is something biden hit hard on yesterday after president trump's audio tapes from his interviews with bob woodward surfaced and revealed that the president down played the virus threat to the public. >> president of the united

states has admitted on tape in february he knew about covid-19 that it passed through the air. he knew how deadly it was. much more deadly than the flu. he knew and purposely played it down. worse, he lied to the american people. he knowingly and willingly lied about the threat it posed to the country for months. >> we all know the 29 electoral votes in the state of florida are critical for both campaigns. florida being the biggest battleground state there is, well, this is how close it comes. four years ago president trump beat hillary clinton by 1.2%. very tight. and recent polls have been showing joe biden's lead over trump has been shrinking and narrowing with the real clear politics average now putting biden ahead of trump by 1.2% as well. sandra. >> sandra: tight race indeed 55

days out. phil keating in florida. much more on all this coming up with vice president mike pence who will be joining us live at 10:30 a.m. eastern time, about 25 minutes from now. >> trace: senate voting today on whether to move forward with a $300 billion coronavirus relief bill. majority leader mitch mcconnell saying he knows it is not perfect. democrats say it is going nowhere fast. >> when it comes to bipartisan aid for kids, jobs and schools, democrats say it's either their entire wish list, all of it, or nobody gets a dime. >> senator mcconnell says he has prepared a so-called skinny covid bill to put before the senate. putting before us a take it or leave us. no amendments, no debate with this proposal, it isn't skinny, it's anemic. >> trace: chad pergram live on capitol hill. it appears the bill is dead on arrival.

>> that's right. a procedural vote they'll take in the senate this afternoon at 1:00 or so. you need 60 votes to be able to clear a filibuster. there are only 53 republican senators. they need at least seven democrats. they will probably not get there. democrats oppose this bill including richard blumenthal, democrat of connecticut. >> it is skinnier than any proposal they've made so far. they're going in exactly the wrong direction in the midst of an economic crisis, a public health emergency. >> trace: republicans know democrats won't support this plan so they're trying to get them on the record as blocking this package. this tactic applies pressure on moderate democrats, republicans are aiming this bill at west virginia's joe manchin, kyrsten sinema of arizona and doug jones of alabama. jones has the toughest race of any democrat coming up this fall. republicans are daring democrats to vote no on this procedural vote this afternoon.

>> trace: do republicans have the 51 votes on their side? >> it's unclear. we've heard a lot they probably don't and this is something that i pressed the senate majority leader on yesterday. listen. >> your side has at least 51 votes, yes or no, do you? if you don't, how can you assign blame to the democrats if you can't get the cloture tomorrow. >> the vote will be cast tomorrow. >> you are saying that there are senators on your side -- >> mitch mcconnell is usually pretty clear to say what he means and that means he is trying to whip the vote to try to get 51 votes today. i was told by a senior republican aide last night they thought they would get there. this is just to show that they have enough support on their side. rand paul, republican of kentucky, he is probably going to be a no. a lot of concern about piling on more debt even though this bill is the so-called skinny version only $300 billion. trace. >> trace: chad pergram live on

capitol hill. >> sandra: the u.s. planning to stop enhanced coronavirus screening for international travelers on monday. that is according to new reports. the extra screening began back in january after the virus first spread to the u.s. from china. a tsa official reported that 675,000 screenings at 15 different airports turned up fewer than 15 positive cases of covid-19. >> trace: a new report by two democratic senators says some americans are facing serious health risks because the slowdown of the postal service is causing delays in the delivery of prescription drugs. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren and pennsylvania senator bob casey co-wrote the report claiming the recent changes at the usps have led to the delays. senator warren is demanding the removal of postmaster general louis dejoy for imposing new policies that reduced overtime and removed mail sorting machines. >> sandra: a high school senior

from long island, new york has been arrested after showing up at school for the third straight day. he did it again this morning. the school had already suspended him for showing up for in-person learning on his remote learning day. laura engel is live in long island, new york. what exactly happened this morning? >> hey, sandra. 17-year-old maverick stow showed up at his high school today as you mentioned after being warned repeatedly not to. he was told if he showed up today he would be arrested for trespassing and that is exactly what happened. when i spoke with his mother this morning she told me she supports her son 1,000 percent saying they knew it was going to happy and they were ready for it. they feel it is important for their son to make his point that he wants to be in school and he wants to be in school full-time. this is the third day in a row the senior has defied the rules and leading to his arrest.

a school administrator says the rules are clear. they have a very specific protocol in place as mandated by the state to socially distance students with their hybrid plan of alternating on campus and row moet learning days. he was suspended for five days. wednesday he returned violating the suspension and was told to leave but not only by school administrators but by police as well. stow was also given an official warning saying your child is here by warned on the next occasion he is found illegally on any william floyd school district property the police will be notified, he will be prosecuted for third degree criminal trespass. maverick's mother says her son is doing this for all of the students that want to go to school full-time. maverick stow was just released from custody and here is what he had to say. >> i feel that i was arrested for going to school. that's all i ever actually did. i just went to school and i

just walked out of the seventh precinct because of wanting to go to school. >> third degree criminal trespassing is a class b misdemeanor, not a felony. he has a court date of september 24th. his mom told me she expects this is not the end of it and he will start picketing the school but start that next week. they don't want to do it tomorrow on september 11th. more to come on this one. >> sandra: what a story. reporting live from long island. laura engel, thank you. >> trace: the top cop in dallas is stepping down marking yet another resignation of a police chief amid calls for police reform. how do we begin to heal the divide between police officers and the communities they serve? violent protests and low morale are reportedly driving rank and file officers off the job. what needs to happen to fix this. vice president mike pence will join us at 10:30 on that and much more.

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down in cities overwhelmed by protests. one of the most high profile is the chief in dallas. she will remain in the position through the end of the year. terrance hopkins is president of the black police association of greater dallas, terrence, thank you for joining us, sir. i want to start big picture and we'll hone in on dallas. 13 police chiefs over the past three months and one interim police chief. if you can see the map on the screen here have resigned over the past three months. what do you make of these mass resignations, sir? >> well, it's a combination of many things. a combination of officers that do certain things out there in the field and communities and city councils hold the police chiefs responsible. there are budgets being slashed that police chiefs refuse to do the job with the amount of budget cuts that are being made. so there are many, many

different reasons why a lot of these guys are stepping down. >> trace: and the resignation of dallas police chief renee hall, what are your thoughts on that, sir? >> well, you know, i hate that we are losing chief hall. i think chief hall is what dallas needed at the time. i think too many political views and reasons that, you know, we could talk for days about a lot of that stuff but i think sometimes when these chiefs find it so hard to do their job i think they choose to do something else or go other places. >> trace: when you say do their job, sir, you mean they don't have the support of the politicians, they aren't allowed to tell their forces to go out there and protect the law and enforce the law? what do you mean specifically? >> right. so you've seen on several of these chief resignations where there are controversy with the

mayors, with the city councils, so that government structure in each particular city weighs in heavily in a lot of these chiefs resignations. >> trace: sheldon smith says i'm pleased for the officers of dallas, morale has been so low and i think dallas police department is going to move forward. we absolutely have people that are already in place that can do the job. so he says when it comes to chief hall stepping down, okay, fine. >> well again, that's -- i'm not going to comment on his statement. that's how he feels. i have a larger group here that i represent and i have not got one call that said our morale will go up because chief hall is gone. i've been here 30 years this month. morale was bad when i hired on. so to me that's just a catch

phrase for a lot of folks. >> trace: you talk about morale across the country. you have police officers and we talk to police officers all the time and they feel like morale is low and they feel like they can't do their jobs, the politicians and chiefs don't have their backs. why is it? do you understand why some young people are not going into policing and do you see a major problem down the road? >> yeah. policing has been controversial in recent years and times are changing. there are police oversight boards that we are having to deal with. a lot of that is because of some of our misconduct and that's what we don't want to address a lot of times in law enforcement. i'm standing in front of you as a 30-year officer stating there are things that we have to fix ourselves. that doesn't mean i'm against my profession. it is just i'm able to see it and say it where a lot of guys do not respect that component. >> trace: fair assessment.

terrence hopkins, thank you for coming on, sir, we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> sandra: deadly wildfires out of control up and down the west coast. >> this is an extraordinary series of events we have suffered. they are the result of catastrophically dangerous climatic systems which have left us exposed to these horrendous fires. >> sandra: entire towns now gone. with a change in the weather help? bob woodward's book on president trump getting a lot of attention. the president and white house are pushing back this morning. vice president mike pence will be our guest and will join us live next. >> president trump: what i want to show is i want to show calmness. i'm the leader of the country. i can't be jumping up and down and scaring people. i don't want to scare people. i want people not to panic. that's exactly what i did.

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will soon hear the case on the police killing of brionne taylor. the jury will hear other criminal cases first in preparation for the taylor case. >> fox news weather alert. the out of control western wildfires aren't showing any signs of slowing down. the eldorado fire in southern california's san bernardino county sparked by a gender reveal stunt gone wrong has scorched more than 10,000 acres. in oregon hundreds of homes have been destroyed and tens of thousands of people are forced to find shelter. on monday alone washington state had more acres burn than in all of 2019. more than 300,000 acres. here is the governor, jay inslee. >> california, oregon, washington, we're all in the same soup of cataclysmic fire. the reason we're in the same

soup is because the grass is so dry, the temperature is so hot and the winds are so heavy. >> trace: let's bring in janice dean live with us. where are the worst fires and how is the weather fueling all of this? >> i think we have fires all up and down the west coast and the storm that was bringing snow to the rockies was also fueling some of those strong winds. so the good news is the winds are starting to die down. the temperatures have come down a little bit. the problem is the dry conditions. we don't have any moisture getting into this area for the foreseeable future. so you have the dry to severe to extreme danger in terms of the drought and then you have the warm temperatures as well along the coast. the winds have subsided but these temperatures will remain with us for really the foreseeable future. no rain in the forecast. let's take a look at the next five days. very dry in all of the areas

that we're seeing those wildfires burn. in terms of wildfire danger, red flag warnings for the northwest, not california today but still for the northwest where the fires are burning out of control. we'll continue to monitor it, trace. back to you. >> trace: winds aren't helping. janice dean live in the weather center. thank you. >> what was president xi saying yesterday? >> president trump: we were talking mostly about the virus and i think he will have it in good shape. it is a very tricky situation. it goes through air, bob, that's always tougher than the touch. the touch, you just breathe the air and that's how it is passed. that's a very tricky one. a very delicate one. it is also more deadly than your -- even your strenuous flus. people don't realize we lose

25,000, 30,000 people a year here. who would ever think that? that's pretty amazing. i say well -- this is more deadly. this is 5% versus 1% and less than 1%. this is deadly stuff. >> sandra: president trump talking to bob woodward about the pandemic in early february saying that he knew that the coronavirus was deadly but wanted to downplay it. joe biden and other democrats jumping on that news. the president hit back yesterday calling woodward's new book a political hit job. vice president mike pence is today's headliner and joins us now. mr. vice president, good morning. thank you for being here. >> good morning. good to be with you. >> sandra: the president and his defense of the audio tapes has basically said this was a strategy on his part to prevent panic, to bring calm to the american people. so if it was a strategy, is it one that you knew of, mr. vice

president? >> what i saw first-hand from that day in january in the oval office when president trump took the unprecedented step of suspending all travel from china, declaring a public health emergency is that this president put the health of america first from day one. but he also wanted to reassure the american people all along the way. there is that old saying from world war ii in great britain that keep calm, carry on, and that was the presidential leadership that i saw. but when you look at the fact that joe biden, democrats and even the world health organization criticized the president's decision to suspend all travel from china, it took place a week before that audio clip that you just played. and when you see that it was in march, the other audio clip that is getting a lot of coverage is from march 19th where the president spoke about

his desire to create a tone to prevent panic. it is important to remember the president made that comment four days after we shut down the entire american economy to put the health of america first. and so look, from the moment he tasked me to lead the white house coronavirus task force, the president made it clear he wanted us to deploy the full resources of the federal government, a whole of america approach, and the progress that we have made i believe is literally saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives. but all along the way what the american people saw was a president who was projecting the kind of leadership, the kind of confidence in the american people and all of our healthcare experts and doctors and nurses that you would expect from a president in a challenging time like this. >> sandra: to your point our producers put together some of those various moments that

followed these audio tapes of the president putting out this calm to the american people as the pandemic was really setting in. listen. >> president trump: i think it will all work out fine. rough stuff, i tell you rough, rough stuff but i think it will work out. people have to remain calm. i want to keep the country calm. i don't want panic in the country. i could cause panic much better than even you. >> sandra: mr. vice president you rewind to february 7 and hear him on the tape saying it's deadly stuff. more deadly than your strenuous flu and talking about how contagious this virus is spreading through air. in the weeks that followed publicly at a new hampshire rally telling the american people it is going to be fine. february 26 the white house coronavirus task force meeting saying that it's possible the case number will go to zero. comparing it to the flu twice. he talked about calm but he also told the american people it is going to go away.

so the question is, with the president's strategy to in your words and the president's to bring this calm, did he harm the ability to stop the spread of this virus by not warning the american people what he knew were the dangers of it? >> absolutely not, sandra. again, i want to go back. joe biden, the democrats, and the world health organization criticized the president's decision to suspend all travel from china. in early february we were hearing tell about this respiratory illness that was spreading across wuhan. the president put the health of the american people first. in that first week of february we started work on a vaccine. in six short weeks we already were in clinical trials for a coronavirus vaccine and we believe that we're well on our way to having a coronavirus vaccine in record time before the end of this year. all along the way, assessing

supplies, assessing logistics, and when we came to that moment on march 15th, the president announced that first 15 days to slow the spread, it would become 45 days to slow the spread. all along the way the president's mandate was that we would spare no expense, we would put the health of america first despite the criticism that he endured. you need to remember, too, sandra, that on the last day of february there were roughly 15 domestic cases of coronavirus in america. and a month earlier the president suspended all travel from china under a hailstorm of criticism from joe biden and the left. two weeks later we would suspend essentially much of the american economy to put the health of our country first. we reinvented testing. now we're doing more than 800,000 tests a day. we saw to the distribution and the manufacture of hundreds of millions of supplies of ppe and

new medicines. i couldn't be more proud of the response of the american people. more proud of the response of health officials in every agency of government, states across the country. i couldn't be more proud of the strong, steady leadership that president donald trump brought to this coronavirus pandemic from day one. >> sandra: i should acknowledge that dr. fauci was interviewed after the revelation of these tapes and he said he didn't see a disparity on what the president was telling him and what he was telling the public and what he was doing, mr. vice president. but -- >> that's exactly right and let me help you with that. i've worked with dr. fauci every step of the way in this and all of our health experts. when dr. fauci said yesterday that everything that our health experts told the president in the oval office he went out and told the american people. so i believe what the president was speaking about with bob woodward on march 19th was just the tone that he was projecting.

this is a president who believes that a president of the united states in such moments needs to project strength. you can't project weakness. >> sandra: there is a difference, mr. vice president. >> that we will together get through this. his tone was one of projecting calm and confidence. i heard him at that podium and in every setting, we gave the american people the facts and i literally believe that the president's decision to suspend travel to china, the largest mobilization since world war ii and asking the american people to shut down our economy four 45 days to slow the spread to save lives is exactly the kind of presidential leadership that the american people hope and pray for in times like th. >> sandra: what is being debated while we all take in these audio tapes is whether it was misinformation to the

american public when you consider that the president knew how deadly it was. more deadly than a strenuous flu and to compare it to the flu. robert o'brien, national security advisor confirmed in late january at an intelligence briefing warned the president this would be the biggest national security threat that he would face during his presidency. were you privy to that same information that day? did you receive that briefing, mr. vice president? >> sandra: >> i was in the oval office the day the team briefed the president about what we perceived was happening in china. remember, the world health organization failed us, china was not forthcoming with the united states about what was happening there. but the team came in and laid the facts as we knew them on the table to the president and again, i have to tell you, to see the president sit behind the resolute desk in the oval office and do what no america

president had ever done. it was suspend all travel from china. to me it was an historic example of presidential leadership. it saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives. but the truth is we were learning all along the way. i mean on this network, on other networks you had health experts. our own health experts were not yet convinced about the level of contagion or how serious it was. i think dr. fauci often speaks eloquently about the fog of war and when i stepped into the white house coronavirus task force leadership at the end of february, again we only had 15 cases of coronavirus domestic in the united states. and the first case of community transmission also happened at the very end of february. so look, you know, hindsight is 2020, recriminations. what the president was

communicating, i believe what you hear in that february tape was the seriousness with which he took this from day one and again, i think your viewers deserve to know that when the president made the comment about down playing on march 19th, that was four days after this president ordered us to shut down the entire american economy to put the health of america first. >> sandra: on that note, he did speak to bob woodward in 18 different interviews for nine hours. the president's chief of staff mark meadows on fox news last night is not something he would have recommended was he in the role at that time. did you know he was talking to bob woodward 18 different times for nine hours? >> i ran into bob woodward once in the white house. i don't know there has ever been a more accessible president of the united states than president donald trump. >> sandra: was that a good idea?

>> walking to the airplane, walking to the helicopter, press briefings. this president has been straight with the american people. when you look at the way he has led through this pandemic, that's also been true. honestly, tony fauci put it so well yesterday when he said everything that our health experts told the president in the oval office he told the american people, okay? and it's important that people understand that. that's what i saw as well. i actually didn't sense the president was down playing anything. we were giving the american people the facts as we knew them, as we learned them every step of the way. and the american people are incredible doctors and nurses, health officials in states across the country and all across the federal government responded with incredible professionalism. but it is so important in moments like this that the president of the united states project confidence to the american people that they

understand that we were deploying the full resources of the federal government, calling forth the full power of the american economy to meet this moment. and i promise you, sandra, we will continue to do that every step of the way until we have a coronavirus vaccine and we put this pandemic in the past once and for all. >> sandra: we have a lot more to get to. if i could ask you about the wildfires raging on the west coast. three states affected. seeing seven deaths now, one involving a small child. what can you tell us as being done at the federal level now to step in and help as these fires are still raging? >> we're working very closely with governors in states that are affected. i think when governor gavin newsom submitted a disaster declaration president trump approved that in roughly 24 hours. we've issued 22 separate federal fire support grants and we've already got resources by the millions of dollars that

are flowing to impacted families. look, my daughter and son-in-law live in california. our hearts go out to all of those that are enduring or threatened by these fires. i want to assure everyone that we are going to make sure those courageous firefighters that homeowners and businesses have the full support of the federal government as we make our way through these fires, but also as we make our way through what is just actually the beginning of the fire season out west. >> sandra: amazing to see the orange skies of san francisco and such an enormous task for those on the ground fighting the flames. i want to move on to you on the ground in pennsylvania yesterday, mr. vice president. pennsylvania a key state in the upcoming election. a state the president carried in 2016. he is behind in the real clear politics average of polls in that state right now. obviously you were there on the ground trying to sway voters

with your -- yours and the president's law and order message. message on the economy. what are you doing as you work your way towards your big debate october 7th with kamala harris? what is the strategy to win over voters in a state like pennsylvania? >> we're going to go out and talk about the fact this president has kept more promises than he made to the people of pennsylvania. he said we are going to rebuild our military. we'll revive the economy with less taxes, less regulation, more free and fair trade, and more american energy. we'll stand by our most cherished values including the right to life. yesterday in pennsylvania we celebrated this president's nomination of more than 200 strong conservatives to our federal courts including two supreme court justices. president trump's strong stand for the right to life which resonates with people across the heartland including pennsylvania. but the message that i drove home yesterday literally

standing at a drilling site in pennsylvania president trump promised we would unleash american energy. we've done just that. for the first time in 70 years we're a net exporter of energy. but joe biden and kamala harris actually have talked about abolishing fossil fuels. i know joe biden now he went to pittsburgh and said he is not banning fracking, but that's at odds with everything that he has said for the last year. he told one supporter i guarantee -- i guarantee that we will abolish fossil fuels. he said in a debate that even if it costs hundreds of thousands of american jobs, that there would be no place for fracking or fossil fuels in his administration. based on the enthusiasm i saw on that particularly hot day yesterday in freedom, pennsylvania is that people of pennsylvania are getting the message. they know it. they voted for a president who

was committed to a strong military, to law and order at home, to a growing economy, to more american energy, to traditional values, and they know the choice in this election could not be more clear. i think people of pennsylvania will vote for four more years for president donald trump in the white house. >> sandra: mr. vice president, we're out of time. it was great to have you here on "america's newsroom." really appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you, sandra. >> sandra: thank you. >> trace: mail-in ballots that don't arrive on time could hold up final results from the presidential election. how will the uncertainty affect the stock market? money man charles payne is next. want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements... neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance.

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>> trace: mail-in ballots could leave the results of the november election hanging in the balance for days, maybe

weeks. now investment bank morgan stanley is warning the stock market could see major volatility if that happens. charles payne is the host of making money on the fox business network. always good to see you. you know, i know, markets hate uncertainty and there is really nothing more uncertain than not having a president. if this goes for days or weeks what happens to the markets in your assessment? >> well, we can use history somewhat of a guide as the 2000 hanging chads debacle from december 7th to early -- november 7th to early december the s&p was down more than 8%. when the country -- the market hates uncertainty. they certainly hate not knowing who the commander-in-chief is. that would be the ultimate uncertainty. then you look at some of these polls. one suggesting 40% of democrats would demand a redo if president trump was declared the winner. 30% of republicans saying trump shouldn't leave the white house

if biden was declared the winner. we're sitting on a powder keg and all the lawsuits. then the media i think actually would stoke it a lot more than they did in 2000. a lot more biased media going on. it could be a very scary time. a lot of people are concerned. i'm getting a lot of phone calls about it. >> trace: you talk about a lot of people, charles. we teased in the intro about morgan stanley. they quote in our election week a reliable result won't be available for a few days. if polls tighten and indicate the polls are close it could shift to election months. the prospect of an election month. you mentioned back in 2000 it went from november 7th to early december. an election month really is a bad thing for the financial markets.

>> it really is. hopefully we keep talking about the handful of swing states actually determining all of this. maybe if it's a bunch of mail that hasn't been counted from california that kind of stuff that would be a best case scenario. it is one of the things that proponents of vote by mail should consider because there will be some problems. everyone agrees our system is not robust enough to really handle it. that's why people are guessing how long will it actually take to get all the mail to open it up and to insure that these are legitimate votes? it will be a daunting task. listen, we just got a taste, right, at the end of last week on tuesday of what volatility can do. the quickest market correction in history on the nasdaq in three days we lost 10%. now listen, we've done a remarkable job. the market is rebounding nicely. people need to understand not knowing who is in the white house is not something that the market is going to take kindly

to. >> trace: as you talk we're looking at the bottom right hand of the screen. the market is up 42 points today. you talk about the swing states. these are the slow to no states. the ones still counting mail-in ballots for days and may not know the final outcomes. the big number is the total at the bottom. 157 electoral votes. that's a lot of room for delay, charles, i guess that's the concerning thing for a lot of financial advisors. you know what? we get all these states and comes down to one state, even florida back in 2000. we have a lot of states that could really hold this up because we know despite the polls, it will be razor thin in the end. >> it really is. and so it's one of the things we have to brace for. i would caution the audience, particularly people invested in the market for long-term. volatility comes from time to time. i would be careful not to sell a great stock that has the

ability to go up over the next 10 years because we may be in turmoil for a couple of weeks. it won't feel good if it does happen but remain focused on the longer term. >> trace: what about the flip side? what about the people who will make money on this? clearly people are betting against the market. hedging all the time. is there a significant portion of the financial world that will say you know what? we can make some money on the fact this whole thing will be delayed for a while? >> you know, the people who do that kind of investing have already been crushed because they really were sort of loading up after march when we had this initial swoon in the market. there will always be a pocket of folks who do that kind of thing. anyone who goes out and tries to do it on their own without any sort of experience and not dealing with these whip saws. one thing about the market when we think it zigs, it zags. always folks betting against

this country unfortunately but i tell you what, over the last few years they've gotten crushed in the market. they have a lot less dry powder than they had a few years ago. >> trace: you've been talking about if joe biden gets in he will raise taxes. you think that will hurt the market? the prospect of joe biden being in the lead in all these legal things may run down the road, is there a fallout from who gets elected or who looks like they are leading if this thing is delayed? >> if it's delayed i think the markets will -- the stock market is going to recoil. to what degree is debatable if joe biden wins. joe biden has already declared war on amazon, perhaps the most important company in america right now. they're hiring 70,000 people for the latest warehouses. they have a million employees. he is declaring war on them. he is declaring war on wall street. they will raise taex on the

middle class, 400,000. wall street is going to take a hit if biden wins. to what degree, i don't know. >> trace: always good to see you. thank you. >> you too buddy. >> sandra: president trump saying he publicly down played the coronavirus to keep calmness. dana perino will join us to talk about potential fallout from the president's comments top of a brand-new hour coming up. that's how much veteran homeowners can save every year by using their va benefits to refinance at newday. record low rates have dropped to new all time lows. with the va streamline refi there's no appraisal, no income verification, and no money out of pocket. one call can save you $3000 a year.

>> sandra: developing right now the president coming out swinging against bob woodward's new book blasting the journalists latest title rage as a political hit job. the book is loaded with a wide range of topics from the president's response to the pandemic to racial issues and white privilege. according to woodward the president spilling information on a weapons system. >> trace: i'm trace gallagher. the president not backing down from his remarks about the coronavirus after telling bob woodward on tape he knew he was highly contagious and deadly and knew it was worse than the flu. president trump said he played down the danger deliberately to avoid causing a panic. vice president pence joined "america's newsroom" moments ago and said the president told him to fight the virus with

force. >> from the moment he tasked me to lead the white house coronavirus task force, the president made it clear he wanted us to deploy the full resources of the federal government, a whole of america approach, and the progress that we've made i believe has literally saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives. >> sandra: we have fox team coverage for you this morning. dana perino has analysis on insight how the book could play out weeks before the election. lucas tomlinson with details on the spilled nuclear secret and to john roberts. how is the white house reacting to the fallout from woodward's book this morning? >> good morning. the president continues to push back on the perception of what he told bob woodward in several recorded conversations regarding what the president was saying publicly versus what he was thinking privately about it. the president insisting that he was not trying to mislead the

american people, he was simply trying to be measured in his public comments. here is what he told hannity last night. >> president trump: what i want to show is i want to show calmness. i'm the leader of the country. i can't be jumping up and down and scaring people. i don't want to scare people. i want people not to panic. that's exactly what i did. if you look at the representatives of joe biden, you see what they were saying. they said no problem, this won't be a problem. he didn't think it would be a problem until months later. he was way late. >> the president also responding to criticism of woodward that if the revelations were so explosive woodward should have reported them back in march, not waiting until now to capitalize on them to sell books. the president tweeting in the last hour quote bob woodward had my quotes for many months. if he thought there were so bad ordaining rouse why didn't he report them in an effort to save lives? didn't he have an obligation to do so? no, he knew they were good and

proper answers, calm, no panic. democrats have taken the ball and run with it like forrest gump. joe biden calling it a life and death betrayal of our country. >> sandra: john, the interview did not just touch on coronavirus. what else did the president have to say? >> clearly there is a lot more in the book. a lot more we don't yet know as well. and more of that will be revealed this weekend. of course, when the book comes out. one section where woodward was talking to the president back in june about the protests that had gripped the country in the wake of the george floyd killing and specific the issue of white privilege. listen to this exchange. >> do you have any sense that that privilege has isolated and put you in a cave to a certain extent? as it put me and lots of white privileged people in a cave and

that we have to work our way out of it to understand the anger and the pain particularly black people feel in this country? >> president trump: no, you really drank the kool-aid, didn't you. listen to you, wow. i don't feel that at all. >> president has no events until tonight until tonight in michigan. he won saginaw by a single point in 2016. he would like to win it again this year. i'm sure he will have lots more to say about this tonight. >> sandra: we'll watch all of it. john roberts, thank you. >> trace: the new book reports president trump bragged about a classified nuclear weapons system. a secret so guarded military sources were surprised the president would let it slip. excerpts from the book suggest the president mentioned in reflecting how close the u.s. and north korea came to nuclear

war in 2017. lucas tomlinson following this from the pentagon. >> last night an special report bret baier asked the president's national security advisor what is the top secret new nuclear weapon. robert o'brien wouldn't say. >> we're always on the cutting edge and always have something out there our adversaries don't know about. the president didn't talk about any specific weapons system. you can rest assured that we can protect the united states of america against any threat that's out there. >> president trump was quoted as saying i have built a nuclear weapons system that nobody has ever had in this country before. we have stuff you haven't even seen or heard about. another revelation woodward's book said kim jong-un tells me everything how he had his uncle killed. also in woodward's book defense secretary jim mattis went to washington national cathedral to pray about the nation's future and told dan coates they might have to take collective action because the president was, quote, unfit to be

president. as cia director shortly becoming secretary of state mike pompeo made a top secret visit to north korea to meet with kim jong-un in 2018 to lay the ground work for their meeting in singapore two months later. >> the president's historic visit to have his first meeting with kim some number of months later has put us in a position where i hope one day we can deliver on the fully verifiable denuclearization of the korean peninsula. >> north korea is preparing for a massive military parade on october 10th, 75th anniversary of the workers party and it has also been marked by more missile tests. >> trace: lucas tomlinson live at the pentagon. >> sandra: for more on this let's bring in dana perino. great to see you this morning. thanks for being here. if i could ask you your thoughts now that you've seen a lot of reaction to the bob

woodward book and the president's own words on tape. >> so i know what it is like to think that you can cooperate with a bob woodward book and think it will make the next one better. we tried that in the bush administration. cooperate, not a great book. don't cooperate, not a great book. back and forth it went. i understand the temptation to try to cooperate because you think you will be able to make your points that you will be on the record, not going to do any more of this anonymous sourcing stuff. i can understand the temptation. doing it on tape was a mistake. partly because even though the president is going to stand by whatever he said. that's fine. but there is something about the intimacy of hearing him say things that might make you if you don't like the president might make you cringe but reconfirms things. if you love the president this interview that's how he always is. we knew this. we think he is so smart to tap the brakes and not let people panic about the coronavirus. if you don't like the president

it confirms everything that you thought before and you think about kamala harris and joe biden. they kept saying during the democratic convention about the coronavirus. it didn't have to be this bad. i would bet now they'll take the audio and use it to have their advantage. now, this seems like a big deal in this news cycle and last a few days. there are a lot of nuggets to tease through. in the long run it's the beginning of a million cycles we'll go through before election day which i see we have on the screen, 53 days to go. >> sandra: hard to believe, isn't it? mike pence the vice president joined us last hour, dana. the president is defending his words on tape and so is the vice president. listen. >> it's so important in moments like this that the president of the united states project confidence to the american people that they understand that we were deploying the full resources of the federal government, calling forth the full power of the american

economy to meet this moment. >> sandra: the days will determine when we look back at what we knew when we knew it and what was publicly said and what was said to bob woodward on those telephone conversations. in that interview mike pence confirmed to me that he was privy to the same information that robert o'brien, the president's national security advisor gave the president that day in late january when o'brien told the president that this could be -- the virus could be the biggest national security threat he would face during his presidency. so you can obviously look at what he said publicly and the vice president as well leading the coronavirus task team what was said publicly in the days and weeks that followed, dana. there will be a lot of that. >> there will be a ton of it. i do think that yesterday when you had dr. anthony fauci come on the daily briefing show and say this is not in keeping with how i saw the president at the time in terms of the bob woodward context that he was

talking about. and also you had a lot of different opinions about the virus. the trump campaign will be able to point to a lot of different things that biden said at the time or schumer at the time. and you think about what were we doing in january as a country? sandra, you remember, we were sitting for hours every day having to cover the impeachment trials. i think there is probably enough here to go around. i do think what matters going forward? do we have an available vaccine soon in order to get people back to work? can people get their kids back in school? they've been in school for a week and i'm hearing and you are hearing from parents across the country it is not going well. technology isn't working, kids are melting down. parents aren't able to do this. we should all be trying to row in the same direction to get the country back in working order. it is hard to do this in the middle of a presidential election when all the chips are on the table. as citizens we have to do better. >> sandra: nancy pelosi starting her weekly news conference right now. chuck schumer had this to say on another network this morning. listen.

>> he doesn't mind panicking people when it serves his interests. he will not tell the truth when it serves his interests and people are so badly hurt. it is a despicable incident and i hope it wakes up some of those trump supporters to realize what this man is. that they cannot have him be president again. i will get worse. he will tell more and worse lies. >> sandra: that was chuck schumer's one of the president's biggest critics. senator kennedy went on last night and again this morning says he doesn't like gotcha books. it will be interesting to see how both sides continue to react to this. final thoughts, dana. >> i don't know if you can call it a gotcha book if you participate in 18 interviews and do it on tape. as ben shapiro the call is coming from inside the house. if you want to know what the president is thinking it's right there for you. there is nothing that is non-transparent here. the other thing about chuck

schumer, the democrats will once again today block a coronavirus bill going forward that would get money into the hands of school districts, small businesses and people out there that really need it. when you talk about words verse yours deeds the trump campaign might want to seize on that. >> sandra: we'll see you this afternoon and tonight on "the five". thanks. >> trace: fox news alert from lebanon. the beirut port has gone up in flames again weeks after an enormous blast set off a deadly fire there. the cause of this fire not known but it apparently began in a warehouse that stores oil and tires, both as you can see highly flammable. folks are being told to stay clear of the area as crews race to bring it under control. >> sandra: the pandemic may not turn out to be the biggest election issue. what karl rove says voters are focusing on now and how it will impact the race between president trump and joe biden. the salon owner at the center of nancy pelosi's scandal made

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>> sandra: strong winds fueling wildfires raging out of controls. it turned the skies smokey orange in the san francisco area in the middle of the day even though the flames were hundreds of miles away. seven people died including this boy in oregon. the damage is catastrophic from california to washington state. homes incinerated. thousands more threatened by the fires. kttv is on the ground near the eldorado fire in southern california for us this morning. good morning. >> good morning, sandra and day six of the efforts to contain this fire just resumed about an hour or two ago. want to show you this checkpoint. this is an evacuation zone.

we're in the area of 70 miles east of the l.a. area in san bernardino county. one of several checkpoints in the neighborhood. just up the road dozens of homes were ordered to leave immediately. we can see activity picking up here. several surrounding agencies have been called in to help. more than 1,000 fire personnel and dozens of engines out here to battle the eldorado fire. overnight the fire grew several hundred acres to nearly 13,000. crews have been working overnight to protect homes in the fire's path. the latest numbers released about an hour ago put containment at 23%. crews have a perimeter around 23% of the fire. additional mandatory evacuation orders were issued in several communities along the south end of the san bernardino national forest. what's happening today as well as keeping flames at bay teams are surveying destruction.

we've seen residents who have seen homes damaged or loss. one of several local wildfires. this one has been burning since saturday when it was sparked by a pyrotechnic device at a gender reveal party in a local park and today the temperatures are warm. we just escaped the heat wave in the west coast and can tell you tomorrow that dry, hot weather is returning and that always poses a challenge. the low humidity for firefighters during a wildfire. >> sandra: a challenge there. mario, thank you. >> trace: the san francisco hair salon at the heart of the nancy pelosi scandal is shutting down. the owner telling tucker carlson she is closing up shop after getting death threats. >> i started to just get a ton of phone calls, text messages, emails, all my yelp reviews, just saying that they hope i go

under and that i fail so just a lot of negativity towards my business. >> trace: last week nancy pelosi was seen on surveillance video violating city regulations getting a shampoo and blow-out without a mask. two national chains are going under. the parent company of lovey's cafeteria and fudruckers. going under. all locations are shutting down. >> sandra: joe biden ripping into president trump over the revelations in that new bob woodward book. >> he lied, that's wrong. totally irresponsible. totally irresponsible. >> sandra: joe biden's answer just ahead. plus how the economy and jobs are playing in the election.

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at an historically high level. high above what it was before the coronavirus. >> trace: president trump is back on the campaign trail tonight heading to michigan. no travel today for joe biden. his vice presidential nominee kamala harris is stumping in florida where the candidates are running neck-and-neck. >> sandra: president trump hitting back at the new book from the journalist bob woodward. the author did a hit job like he does with everybody, the president's words. the book reports the president intentionally played down the coronavirus threat. he says that as the nation's leader he did not want to cause a panic. today karl rove tackled the coronavirus in an op-ed for the "wall street journal" suggesting voters are shifting their focus from the pandemic to the economy. voters will decide on who they think can better rebuild the economy. with the charges that the president set out to mislead

the nation about the virus, will president trump's handling of the virus be at the forefront of voter's minds? the big question. founder and ceo of real clear politics tom bevan. put it in perspective where it all fits in the big picture when it comes to the 2020 race and what matters to voters most? >> well, the coronavirus certainly matters to voters. it is still a top issue in the race, the economy also matters a great deal. those two issues are intertwined with the public health aspect of that and also the economic health, right? what the lockdowns have done. i'm not sure it's clear exactly how this is going to work out in terms of the politics of it. how much of a hit trump might take for the revelations in his book. we'll have to wait and see. >> sandra: karl rove's headline. biden has the edge as the final stretch begins. he can keep his lead by pitching unity and surviving

the debates but trump has time. it is an interesting point, 55 days out or so, tom, on how we will see these strategies evolve as we get closer to election day. >> yeah. in particular on the economy. biden has done in our real clear politics average trump's job approval, when the covid virus hit in march he had a plus 16 net rating, over 55%. it's now down to 3 1/2 lead. biden has done smart things. copied trumps language. buying and building american and very many ways he sounds similar to donald trump. second thing he has done is that he talked about how the recovery -- he is acknowledging the recovery but saying it is not working for everybody. that leads into the aspect of joe biden, another advantage he has over trump is that people -- voters think he cares about them more than donald trump does, right?

cares about average voters like me. the third thing he has done is walked away from the more radical elements of his party on fracking, for example, doing away with fossil fuels. so all of those three things have combined to really help him minimize trump's advantage on the economy. >> sandra: it's really interesting, tom. you look at karl rove's point in the piece is about voters' concern over the coronavirus being a health crisis versus now growing concern about being an economic crisis. that benefits donald trump most if that's happening. he says shifting concerns about covid-19 may turn the race more in trump's direction. september 7th nbc survey monkey poll said 52% say the pandemic is more of a health crisis down from 56% in july. 47% say it's more of an economic crisis up from 43% in july. if that trend continues, karl says the election will be less about trump's handling of covid

and who will be better at restarting the economy. team trump would like that, says karl rove. >> that's exactly right. i've talked to folks within the trump campaign and hoping that looking at the numbers, the caseloads, infections, all of those things were trending in a positive direction. they were hoping that that continued and they would be able to put covid as an entire issue in the rearview mirror for the homestretch. what woodward's book does it brings it back to the fore. to the extent covid is a settled issue and more looking for the economy and who can lead us forward on the economy still plays to trump's advantage. >> sandra: on the economy new jobs numbers 884,000 jobless claims. what does that tell you where we are in the economic recovery, tom? final thoughts. >> well, it's not good news for trump if the economy stalls out.

we've only had three presidents reelected with unemployment over 7%. barack obama was one of them. the unemployment rate spiked to 14%. last number was 8.4. donald trump gets one more jobs report that comes in before election day. if he can get that number under 8% down into the 7% range and continue to show progress on the jobs front, absolutely is an asset for him heading to election day. >> sandra: we'll keeping watch. tom bevan. great to see you. >> trace: joe biden slamming the president over the comments he made to bob woodward about the coronavirus accusing the commander-in-chief of lying to the american people. griff jenkins live for us in washington with more. griff. >> trace, it has been a no holds barred response from the former vice president who pounced on the revelations moments after the news broke from the campaign trail in michigan. he blasted president trump for down playing the deadly threat of the virus calling it a life or death betrayal. >> he lied to the american

people. he knowingly and willingly lied about the threat it posed to the country for months. he knew how dangerous it was. while this deadly disease ripped through our nation, he failed to do his job on purpose. >> afterwards he continued attacks telling a reporter on the tarmac this should have serious consequences. >> he lied. that's wrong. totally irresponsible. >> [inaudible]. >> kick him out of office. >> he ramped up the rhetoric of the president's handling of the coronavirus overall. >> he can say anything that happened had nothing to do with him. he waved the white flag and walked away and didn't do a damn thing. think about it. think about what he did not do

and it's almost critical. >> he said donald trump knew it was deadly and dangerous and purposely down played it. nearly 200,000 americans are dead. it's unconscionable. the president says biden was -- right now the story is a fire hose for the white house and the biden camp is seizing on it in every way. we'll hear from kamala harris this afternoon from miami. trace. >> trace: griff jenkins live in washington thank you. >> sandra: bill deblasio is the worst mayor in the history of new york city from a democratic congressman from staten island. the scathing new attack ad that's turning heads in the big apple. president trump revealing his list of potential supreme court justice nominees. why he is calling on joe biden to release his own list. attention veterans with va loans.

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champs kansas city chief will play the houston texans. the team has banned fans from wear any native american headdresses or face paint. the social justice push from the nfl. >> trace: new campaign ad slamming bill deblasio by a fellow new york democrat running for reelection. >> bill deblasio is the worst mayor in the history of new york city. that's it, guys. >> trace: consciousman max rose' cuesed deblasio trying to kill off new york city restaurants earlier this year blasted democrats for opposing all of president trump's foreign policy moves. while president trump expanding his list of potential supreme court nominees. on that list are senators ted cruz, tom cotton and josh hawley. the president is calling on joe biden to do the same. kristin fisher live for us at the white house.

kristin. >> trace, we knew this list was coming. president trump did this back in 2016 to great effect to help convince conservatives voter he is a safe vote and he is doing it in 2020 to make sure he keeps their support. the big difference this time is the addition of those three well-known senators, all devout constitutionalists. they are texas senator ted cruz, arkansas senator tom cotton and missouri senator josh hawley. it has been 50 years since a former senator has sat on the court. they went to ivy league law schools and already those two senators are pouring a little cold water on their addition to the president's list. you have senator hawley saying while he appreciates the president's confidence, quote, i told the president

missourians elected me to fight for them in the senate and i have no interest in the high court. senator cruz called it humbling and immense honor but looks forward to defending the rights of 29 million texans and i look forward to continuing to do so for many years to come. and then you had senator tom cotton really sticking to the issues in the statement that he put out right after his name was added to that list. he said it's time for roe v wade to go and the right to own a gun and the right to worship, end of story. there is no disputing where the president picks, where his picks stand on some of these critical issues to so many conservative voters. now the president himself is calling on his opponent, joe biden, to release his own list. >> president trump: joe biden has refused to release his list perhaps because he knows the names are so extremely far left that they could never withstand

public scrutiny or receive acceptance. >> and in fact the trump campaign's question of the day for joe biden is where is your supreme court list? this is something the trump campaign is likely going to hammer the biden campaign on between now and election day. so far, trace, no word from the biden campaign on if the former vp intends to release his own list. >> trace: kristin fisher live for us in a rainy d.c. thank you. >> this president trump intentionally misleads the american people about the threat of covid. >> how do you swear the president's words to woodward? how can a president bear no responsibility for the almost 200,000 lives lost when he down played the virus initially? >> how is that at its core not an abject betrayal of the public trust? >> sandra: reporters focusing

on woodward's new book yesterday in the press briefing. howie kurtz is host of "media buzz". thanks for being here. a lot of reaction still coming in. looking at the timing of this, the president's words, and the fact that the president sat there and gave 18 different interviews, nine hours total. >> yeah. some of those interviews the president was calling bob woodward at home. melania came over and president said the book will be at troeshous but that's okay. this is not deep throat. no anonymous sources. whether people believe that the pat was lying as much of the media and democrats are saying. or whether they buy the president's account he was trying not to cause a panic in the country. this recasts the most important issue in this campaign and unlike many of the summer

storms that surround this president knock down a few trees and power lines and quickly go ought to sea. because of the pandemic the president's opponents will be pushing this until election day. >> sandra: and the president turning this around an bob woodward for the timing of his release of the tapes. he tweeted this morning. bob woodward had my quotes for many months. if they thought they were so bad ordaining rouse the president writes, why didn't he immediately report them in an effort to save lives? didn't he have an obligation to do so? no. because he knew they were good and proper answers. he ended it with calm, no panic. >> president trump tapping into some criticisms. having worked with him years ago i know that donald trump would not have said these things to bob woodward if he thought it was going in the paper the next day. at the same time, the interview they had on february 7 coronavirus wasn't a major issue.

no one died. woodward told the "washington post" he needed time to put everything in context to verify trump's account and that's what happens with these books. interesting that the president is calling this a political hit job since as is clear he was angry with a staffer not having him talk to woodward for his last book and i think he thought he could win him over or get a more favorable book. >> sandra: mark meadows said if he had been in the role of chief of staff he would not have recommended the president do that and give the interview to bob woodward. a part of your foxnews.com piece. as an author of best sellers dating back to watergate woodward is entitled to declare his conclusion on trump's tenure but that opens him up to charges that his real motive is to help oust the president in a book published two months before the election. of course, this puts the focus back on the timing of all this and what the impact will be for

voters in the election, howie. >> yeah. woodward crashed this book in 10 months and trying to get it out before the election. the last sentence in the book is trump is the wrong man for the job. it's very different than the approach he has taken throughout his career. i remember him telling me you put down fact a, fact c, fact c and let people make up their own minds. it's not about the foour -- it's not about woodward's opinions, but it's the president's own words. there is a lot the president is able to provide woodward on the variety of subjects that make a case for himself. so i think ultimately what is said on the last imagine of woodward's conclusion is less important than the fact it is on tape. having the president's words that we can hear them i think is what gives this punch. it doesn't mean that he was somehow misleading or lying as his worst critics are saying but it casts the whole

situation in new light. >> sandra: howie kurtz, not over. that's going to largely be debated as we get a look at the timeline, exact words of the president and this will go on. howie, thank you. great to see you this morning. >> trace: an assistant professor at transylvania university is apologizing for criticizing nick sandmann. how he is reacting to her comments coming up. you know that look? that life of the party look walk it off look one more mile look reply all look own your look... ...with fewer lines. there's only one botox® cosmetic. it's the only one... ...fda approved... ...to temporarily make frown lines... ...crow's feet... ...and forehead lines... ...look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic,

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>> trace: an assistant professor at transylvania

university apologizing after criticizing new student nick sandmann as atrocious on social media. sandmann gained national attention after the media accused him of antagonizing a native american man in d.c. carley shimkus is here. i want to put up on the screen his op-ed that dropped a short time ago. he says i don't advocate barring liberals or even socialists from going to college. it is wrong for any of us to demean people who hold different beliefs. now more than ever we need more speech, not less. we need to hear new ideas and learn from others. that's exactly what i and so many students returning to school want to do. i invite democrats to join us. it should be noted by the way that nick sandmann was not in the wrong as cnn learned by paying out a chunk of change. >> trace, you are absolutely right. first of all nick sandmann was accepted into transylvania university, a college in

kentucky and the hits keep coming for this kid. first a member of the aclu who attacked him online saying that he essentially saying that he should be barred from the college, shouldn't be accepted. and the irony is not lost a member of the aclu, defender of free speech is saying nick sandmann shouldn't be accepted into college calling him a stain on the university and then a professor at the college wrote another post saying he was going to kind an eye on nick sandmann to make sure he doesn't troll or harass anybody. that video shows he never trolled or harassed anybody. the only thing these two people don't like about him are his political views. imagine being a young teenager going into college feeling like you have that target on your back. i truly hope he has a thick skin or a very strong circle of friends because college may be difficult for him. we should point out transylvania university

released a statement they'll investigate the situation with this professor. the professor apologizeed and they accept people of all political views as well. we'll see. >> trace: i would hope the aclu would at least call that staffer on the carpet. nick sandmann was not wrong in any of this ordeal. speaking of young people and adults in college. the idea that more young adults are living at home now than in the great depression? >> you know, the headline sounds dramatic but it makes sense. it is true according to the pew research center that more young people ages 18-29 are living at home than ever before. in february that number was 47%. and then in july it increased up to 52%. that's a 2.6 million person increase. i say it makes sense because think of about all the college students who were asked to come home and all the young people living in cities who say they had to work remotely. why not move back home with mom and dad and get a free meal.

those are the lucky people. the unlucky ones are young people who were fired from their jobs or let go for some reason because of this pandemic. and we do -- looking at the numbers we know millennials were particularly affected by the pandemic in terms of workforce. >> trace: the caveat to that is that even if you are at college and you are living off campus and not in one of the dorms or one of the dorms on campus they still count you as living with your parents and so that's part of the whole 52%. a lot of people involved in that as well. i also kind of found the next headline a little baffling the whole millennials want to redistribute wealth from the older generation? to the younger generation? >> this is the opinion of one man, a deutsche bank strategist. he believes because young people are so upset and feel like they aren't being heard because of the brexit vote.

young liberals and because of president trump's election they'll try to implement policies either through running for political office to redistribute wealth to young people through corporate taxes. joe biden is trying to raise taxes on the wealthy to provide college for most americans. so this guy may not be wrong in that sense. >> trace: it is fascinating. you look at the list of stories we covered. nick sandmann is a conservative and welcomes people on the other side giving their opinion. you drop down to young adults living at home and then you talk to young adults who say maybe we should take a lot of money from the older generation and give it to some of the younger generation. there seems to be -- i only have 15 seconds left for you, seems to be the younger people kind of getting involved and are actively speaking and

arguing and debating about these topics. >> the tide is turning. we'll have to wait and see come the november election if they put that voice into action via voting. we'll have to wait and see on that one. >> trace: thank you so much. >> sandra: brand-new reaction to the revelations in bob woodward's new books as we hear from the white house and biden campaign response. analysis on how it could impact the election 53 days out plus whether whiplash, summer turns into snow overnight. can now save $3000 dollars a year with the va streamline refi. at newday there's no income verification, no appraisal, and not a single dollar out of pocket. one call can save you $3000 a year.

>> sizzling summer in denver an wyoming one day and snow the next. >> are we bringing out winter goads? outnumbered starts right now. >> you bet we begin with a fox news alert, president from defending himself against charges that he purposefully downplayed the coronavirus threat in the early stages of this bread. his comments recorded during 18 interviews with journalist bob woodward, which will be part of a book that's coming out next week. that is nine hours of talking. as detailed in the washington post, the president had woodwar in early february, the virus wa quote deadly stuff while publicly he was comparing it to the common flu.

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