on. you're our italian fact finder. it all started here. now what happens? do others follow suit? the future of the economy, not just in new york city, could be in the offing. here's "the five." >> jesse: hello. i'm jesse waters with juan williams, dana perino, greg gutfeld and kennedy. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five". >> jesse: here's president trump sparring with reporters earlier. >> why did you lie to the american people? why should we trust -- >> that's a terrible question and the phraseology. i didn't lie. i said we have to be calm. we can't be panicked. the fact is, there has to be a

calmness. you don't want me jumping up and down screaming there's going to be great death and causing very, very serious problems to the country. if bob woodward thought what i said was bad, then he should have immediately right after i said it gone out to the authorities so they can prepare and let them know. he said he didn't think it was bad. >> democrats responding by claiming president trump is to claim for killing americans. >> this caused people to die. think about what he did not do. >> his delayed denial and distortion caused many deaths. >> he's killed people with his lies. >> this is a kind of homicidal negligence. the facts here are graver. >> there's damning proof that donald trump lied and people died. >> jesse: but it wasn't that

long when a little while ago democrats were down playing the virus. >> i understand the fear. we have gone through this before. zika virus, ebola, et cetera. >> you should come to chinatown. it's safe to be in chinatown and hope others will come. >> i want to take a moment to say it's not a time to panic about coronavirus. but coronavirus is a serious public health challenge. >> critics are calling bob woodward's book a bomb shell. the president is consistent about not wanting to cause a pandemic. >> i'm a positive person. someone said i wish you can be more negative. i'm a cheerleader for the country. the cases didn't build up for a while.

i want to be a cheerleader for our country. >> jesse: greg, first of all, nice shirt. thank you. you going to a lounge later? it's 20 years old, jesse. what are your thoughts on the latest back and forth here? >> greg: well, it's always entertaining to see the media that down played the virus to indulge their impeachment obsession crucifying trump for what they have done for months. the media accusing nobody of controlling a narrative when it's their business model for their entire existence is trying to get you to think a certain way. the way they want you to think is destructive. think about the media's narrative that america is a racist country plagued by police brutality. so what effect have those words have had on america? you see it outside, the havoc, the riots and the arson.

trump's words were meant to keep us from going crazy, the media's words end up with destruction of minority businesses and the death of innocent people. take an easy test. if the pandemic was being played down, why the hell was there a run on toilet paper? why did we shut down travelerly on days after we mentioned it on "the five"? we washed our hands like hawkeye in "mash" every day. manage if trump didn't manage them, it would be worse. finally, trump was presiding at the time over probably one of the greatest economies in history. so he shut it down knowing he was putting his legacy in jeopardy. is that the behavior of somebody that was taking it lightly? i don't think so. he knew that he was risking his reputation and he did it anyway. >> jesse: i was one of those people to go buy toilet paper.

i don't know why i did. i still did it. >> greg: this shirt doubles as toilet paper. >> jesse: juan, i like to kind of pretend that maybe -- how joe biden would have handled things. we have a record of his statements about this. he was against both travel bans from china and from europe. so he would have let infected people from wuhan fly here from months, from italy for months, infecting hundreds of thousands of more americans and then shut down the entire country for longer than president trump, not giving governors any flexibility at all. probably shut it down the whole summer and destroy the u.s. economy. cause long-term damage to the health and security of the people. so how can joe biden say i would have done a better job when he's on record as saying he would have screwed it up? >> juan: i think you're in a

panic, jesse. >> jesse: do i look panicked? >> juan: you know what is amazing? you're not as bad as president trump was in the white house briefing room this afternoon. he looked like he was panic striken. the reason is that if your lives are on tape, it's hard to tell people that you're not lying. >> jesse: what was the lie? >> juan: it's very difficult. clearly he knew not -- not only did he know about the severity of this virus in late january after his national security adviser told him, but then he went on and said things like it's going to disappear shortly like a miracle. we've got it under control. china has it under control. he praised the chinese leader. this is all that he said. he said it was a democratic hoax. the democrats are whipping this up. >> jesse: that's not what he said. >> juan: of course he said it was a democratic hoax. >> jesse: no, he didn't. >> juan: yes, he did. >> jesse: he didn't.

>> juan: the key here is if he had been straight and i think that's what joe biden would have done, jesse, if he was straight with the american people, if he said to us this is a deadly threat, here's what we can do as an american people to protect our families, to protect ourselves, to protect our economy and the best interest of our economy, then i think people would say, well, yes, you did your best job. that's what joe biden has done. >> jesse: dana -- >> juan: president trump misled us. he treated us like we were stupid kids. >> jesse: right. dana, isn't that what he did though? just by his actions by forming the task force launching operation warp speed. gathering ppe, telling people to wash their hands and to social distance? briefing congress, asking for money. aren't those things that he did? he said it was a pandemic during his state of the union speech in

early february whenever else was running around trying to impeach him. i don't see what juan is saying. >> >> dana: i was thinking in march when the president was doing daily coronavirus briefings in march. remember how his approval ratings kept ticking up. he had this great cooperation with many governors including cuomo. he would ask for something, the president would deliver. remember that feeling of american patriotism of working together to flatten a curve and everybody felt like we're in this together. we can do this. it's hard. it all melted away. it's a shame. on the communications front, i think it's interesting. president trump has a bully pulpit. he can change the subject every time he wanted. he said today i'm going to go out there and answer questions on this again. another news cycle or two of this. we know bob woodward is being interviewed sunday night on "60

minutes." it will go through monday or tuesday and shift. the president has the ability to get this on the presidential election back to what he would prefer to talk about, which is the recovery and the hopeful results that they're seeing with the vaccine. he has the power to do that. he has the bully pulpit. if he takes that pivot, he will have to -- the media has to go with him regardless of what happens outside of that. >> jesse: he doesn't strike me as someone that will let the lies linger out there for that long. it's too damaging to let that go uncorrected. kennedy, here we are again. debating coronavirus months and months later. there is a history here. we know what steps were taken, when they were taken. we have this debate every other week. >> kennedy: well, also, you saw joe biden giving a speech on february 28. that was two weeks before the economy was shut down. why wasn't joe biden then saying

because he's walking around talking about the foresight that he had and the decisiveness. in that speech he said, yeah, coronavirus is a big deal but let's not panic about it, which is what every politician from nancy pelosi to donald trump were saying because they could see the economic disaster looming if in fact they pulled the plug on the economy and the virus turned out to be not as bad as they predicted. he would have said, mr. president, shut down the economy know and he didn't say that. he didn't have that giant siren that he was flashing around. so his look back is a little disingenuous. i'm not surprised that a politician that is seeking re-election would lie or down play anything. look what the department of defense did in terms of the afghanistan war and lying about it for 18 years. "the washington post" had to file a foya request to get the

interviews. everyone from the administration that the war has stretched out between, they all essentially lied about it and said we have no idea what the hell we're doing here. i don't think pandemic is that different. people had no idea what they were doing. >> jesse: all right. coming up, nancy pelosi predicting a blow-out win for joe biden and the democrats in november. why she may end up eating those words. that's next. flush. ♪

♪ >> dana: president trump headed to michigan for another rally tonight. nancy pelosi thinks he's wasting his time. the house speaker predicting a

blue wave in november. >> i'm excited about joe biden. in eight weeks, we'll be celebrating the election of joe biden and kamala harris, the democratic senate, a strengthened house of representatives. >> dana: with races tightening, the biden campaign is looking for ways that president barack obama can attack president trump on the campaign trail, which would i guess get a lot of attention. jesse, just before we came on air, the crook political report made two changes in their rankings. one in nevada going from likely democrat to lean democrat. in florida from lean democrat to toss-up. so at this point, looks like the president is the one that is on offense. is nancy pelosi just doing what she needs to do as speaker of the house, saying everything will be sunshine in life? >> jesse: i'd do the same thing if i was in her shoes.

we'll play that november 4th. water's poll report. morning consult battleground poll has the president tied or slightly ahead in every single battleground state except michigan, which is going to be a tough fight. the hill harris poll, juan writes for the hill so it has to be legit. joe biden is significantly underperforming with minority voters. off 27% with blacks. 20% off with hispanics than hillary was. rasmussen, 20% of black voters plan on voting for president trump. the economists say 80% of americans say crime is a serious issue. 86% of black americans say it is. the kizer family foundation has donald trump's approval for coronavirus jumping nine points. people do not think coronavirus is as much of a concern as they used to last month. the president's handling of the

economy over 50% in every single battleground poll. in terms of election enthusiasm, donald trump's voters almost double as enthusiastic as joe biden. so the trends are against biden. his base is not entirely juiced and trump's base is. so nancy, don't celebrate yet. >> dana: juan, do you want to respond to that? >> juan: well, i think that jesse's responding to the reality that is staring all of us in the face, including nancy pelosi, which you know what democrats, don't freak out, don't hyperventilate and obsess and go back to your post traumatic stress from 2016 when you were so devastated. focus on the politics here. focus on the election. focus on organizing and voting and get out there and believe in the system. she's saying you have every reason after a good convention,

after looking at what has been going on with the polls that jesse was talking about to say this is doable. don't lose faith in the system, in the structure. don't just get locked in to contentedness, to get involved and vote. >> dana: okay. kennedy, one thing the president's team also has in their favor, they've been registering a lot of new voters. numbers in pennsylvania today, especially in the lesser populated counties, rural counties, voter registration there is up. so that might actually be something good for him in pennsylvania. that would be 20 electoral votes. >> kennedy: that's right. that's why the president and the former vice president are focusing so much time and so many resources on pennsylvania and michigan. i think this is the dumbest thing that nancy pelosi could do. what it does is sort of overconfidence, it takes the passion away from voters that feel like it's a foregone conclusion. all you need is a couple of percentage points of likely

voters to sit at home because they think that these senate races are wrapped up and joe biden has the presidency. i think she needs to be more realistic. michael moore is the only one scaring people to biden support because he's saying in the midwest, people are still voting for trump and excited about him. he said the same thing in 2016 and he was right. >> dana: greg, mitch mcconnell on the senate side, he has several -- over 20 republican races up. he has the opposite tactic of pelosi. he's always thinking that he's running below what he needs to be. so he glass half empty, half full? what's going on? >> greg: i don't know. i usually drink out of the bottle, dana. i hope that nancy is right that they win the senate, the house and the presidency, because that -- that way i won't be murdered. because if biden loses, i'm being told that there will be

blood everywhere. there will be riots, demonstrations. people like me will be targeted. we have to understand, we have to understand and predict these consequences in reality. i'm not joking. this is not gore versus bush or clinton versus bush or mondale versus reagan. can't remember. maybe. the dems and the media have portrayed this election as good versus evil. it's been said that way on this show, which means that if trump wins, if nancy is wrong, it's almost required that the good take to the streets and punish the evil. because this is the terminology that is being used by the media, talking heads, entertainers, anchors, house and senate democrat leaders. so we have to -- this is why i say the media and our leaders have to come together and discuss a way to diffuse this situation. we only have 50 days. we've been using demonic language to marginalize half the country.

they're going to get hurt if trump wins. i will put my life savings on that. we'll have to start thinking about that now. >> jesse: i will protect you, greg. >> greg: i hope so. cradle me in your arms, jesse. >> dana: after you protected that lady at dwayne reed -- i don't know. >> kennedy: as long as greg has a white cloth, he's fine. >> dana: a teen arrested after doing remote learning. he showed up to school. how he's responding and what the school is saying next. ♪ who is usaa made for? it's made for this guy a veteran who honorably served and it's made for her she's serving now we made it for all branches and all ranks whether they served one tour or made a career of it. we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids usaa is easy to work with and can save you money on auto, home and renters insurance.

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>> juan: president trump again calling on schools to reopen. tweeting democrats, open the schools! safely, now! when schools are closed, let the

money follow the child. the family, why should schools be paid when they're closed? they shouldn't. this comes as a new york high school student is arrested after showing up to class on a day he was assigned to learn remotely. the teen already had been warned and suspended for showing up to school when he was supposed to be taking classes from home. the student not planning on backing down. >> i intend on continuing to make my voice heard until the administration decides that they can't ignore it anymore and we get to go to school five days a week. >> juan: the school district says the school was violating their coronavirus safety protocol. and they add "mr. stow continues to display irresponsible and selfish behavior. his rights do not surpass the rights of any of our other 8,800

students." kennedy what do you say to that? does his -- the rules of the school district clearly supersede any desire from any one student. wouldn't you agree? >> kennedy: yeah, but i bet there's plenty of students at his school that are learning remotely and not having any in-person attendance at all and that is the choice of most months in new york state have been given. survey after survey, what would you prefer? in-person learning or a blend or complete digital online learning? for some families, they don't want to take the risk. you may have generations living together at home. they don't want their students in cool. in this case, you have a student that wants to go five days a week, let him go. maybe he has a crush on a cute girl. >> juan: jesse, i'm asking you

this with tongue in cheek. i think you know the answer. when you're suspended from school, jesse, you can't go to school, right? >> jesse: theoretically, juan. here's the thing. this kid is a legend. he gets suspended the first week of school and then he gets arrested? mug shot. and then he tips off the media to film him being arrested. total pro. he gets booked on fox news. celebrity. like his mom is not even mad at him. this kid is 96 level when you think about whats going on here. his college essay written itself. i want to learn so badly, i'm willing to go to jail for it. this kid is going places. i don't know about you. he's going to be a politician or reality star or a fox news host. i'm worried my job is not safe. >> juan: wow. oh, my gosh. greg, you know, he threatened

that he would have to be forcibly removed. so that got, of course, the school authorities up in and arms what do you say somebody that you have to pull me out of here? >> greg: what do you expect when you name your kid maverick? [laughter] i'm a little suspicious of what's going on here. i'm not a big fan the way jesse is. i'm going back to my old saw. i'm rooting for innovation to elon musks of the world, must use covid as an opportunity to remake education. i was doing a little bit of research. technology has revolutionized everything by education. before there was movies and regarded music. entertainment consisted of basically touring shows of like burlesque, baudville. the actors were low on the totem poll. they were not famous. nobody cared about them. and then they were elevated to stardom because of movies and

music and television. it was because the screen did it. technology did it. imagine that kind of effect on education. that if you were a charismatic talented teacher that was elevated to a screen in which millions of students watched you, how cool would that job become and how much better and efficient education would be if, again, we marriaged technology to education? right now this is an incredible time waster to teach a million algebra classes a day. >> juan: all right. so dana, you know, i believe and you're right to raise your voice to say when you think something is wrong. if you break the laws and of course they're going to be consequences. in this case he clearly broke the school district and the school's laws. so how do you feel about his actions? >> dana: i feel like we have a young man who is practicing

peaceful protesting and civil disobedience. he got arrested. didn't make a big fuss. he didn't burn anything down, loot any stores. didn't cause any more problems. just exercising his way to express himself and there were consequences for it. he broke the law, got arrested. jesse said, he will have stories the rest of his life. >> juan: coming up, joy behar challenges ivanka trump to take the coronavirus vaccine first. ivanka responded yes right here next on "the five." ♪ the lexus es.

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coronavirus vaccine. parentally president trump is the worst and he's holding all the beakers. she says she won't take it unless ivanka trump takes it first. take a look. >> it is not a simple thing to do. he will push anything to get re-elected. don't fall for it. by the way, i will take the vaccine after ivanka takes it. >> kennedy: ivanka trump responding with this tweet. deal, joy behar. i will come on your show to do so. i trust the fda and so should all americans. this should be our top priority. so juan, on a scale of garden variety karen to hillary clinton, where does joy behar land on the miserable harpy spectrum? >> juan: i'll leave that to you guys. you can make those personal adjustments about tv stars.

to me this is a broader issue, kennedy. the president said during his convention speech that a vaccine will be ready by a special date alluding to the election. as a result right now in the polls, it's like more than half of americans say they wouldn't take a vaccine if it was available. that includes 60% of republicans. so we've got to do something about public trust if we ever do get a vaccine. i think that's really important. that's why you see right now i think it's 9 of the top drug companies involved with the testing have taken what they call scientific safety pledge, that they will go by the science and not the influence by the politics involved before they put out a vaccine. just this week we saw astra zeneca said they had to delay some of their trials after someone got sick. so i think people just want to be able to trust. right now they think this is all politics.

>> kennedy: well, jesse, the fact that the fda has been granting some of these pharmaceutical companies and this public private partnership could be good news for pandemics and vaccines in the future. is juan wrong? >> jesse: is juan wrong? if i had a nickel. >> juan: never, never. [laughter] >> jesse: this is what juan wants you guys to believe. he wants you guys to think that donald trump is in the lab, hovering over these nerds with their lab jackets holding his fists up as they're sweating and shaking and holding viles and its spilling out. they slaughtered guinea pigs and paralyzed them. they're so afraid that will re-elect donald trump and killed a bunch of americans and treat treat said the lab choked like dogs.

they weren't ready for prime time. sad. that's what juan wants you to think. that is not what is happening. juan loves science, juan loves government. so this is the government and science coming together to create a vaccine that everybody should love. >> kennedy: yes, that should be the ultimate love child. dana, interestingly, former vice president biden says that if a vaccine were available, he would take it tomorrow even if it cost him the election. kamala harris is saying something very different. she's one of those people trying to cast doubt on the entire process. do you think that's a schism in their relationship? >> dana: perhaps, although it could be like juan was saying, that if you ask ten of your friends about would you take the vaccine, you might be surprised at the answers that you get. i've been asking that the past six weeks because i'm interesting. distrust in vaccines has been going on a long time. it's not a partisan issue, this

is -- has been pervasive if you look across this country and in california, oregon of course. you know that. not just those places. now it's exploded and making it worse. however, if you are going to get to choose your fighter, joy behar or eivanka trump, i prefe ivanka trump. what she is saying is responsible. i hope this continues beyond other vaccines and pandemics as well. >> kennedy: greg, where do we go from here? do we pay people to take the vaccines? it's been floated a $300 billion program through financial incentiv incentives? is that a good way to go? >> greg: absolutely. pay me, i'll do anything. this is a lot like crime reform. when you eradicate crime through

the broken windows, policing and murder decreases and crimes are down, you get a new class of politicians that say let's try this progressive stuff and see what happens. that's what happens with vaccine skepticism. vaccines have eradicated all sorts of deadly diseases and saved millions and millions of lives. that is a fact. okay? so now you have people that are in the luxury of that new world questioning the validity of vaccines. because they are not dealing with polio and measles has been under control even though it's speaking back a little bit. it's a shame that joy is basically -- she's a left-wing spokesperson and she's anti-science. that's going to scare millions of people from taking the vaccine. but i will say this of jesse, you should be worried being a very famous person. this is going to be the new thing. everybody will be asked, are you taking the vaccine? you better have your answer

redry because you can't say i'm not sure. you have to say yes or no because every single person who is on tv will be asked that question. >> jesse: yeah, i'll say yes. i jump the line. [laughter] >> greg: there you go. >> dana: he would. he's push old ladies out of the way. >> jesse: no, i would not. >> greg: he would take their white cloth. >> jesse: i would not. >> kennedy: that might be the vaccine in and of itself. lace up your cleats and throw on the helmets. football is back, baby! it's up next on "the five." ♪ i'm a performer. -always have been. -and always will be. never letting anything get in my way. not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. and certainly not arthritis. new voltaren provides powerful arthritis pain relief to help me keep moving.

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>> greg: football is back. the nfl returning tonight with a big game between the super bowl champions kansas city chiefs and the houston texans. fox sports has a full slate of games this weekend. things will look different thanks to covid restrictions. only 16,000 fans will be watching from the stands tonight. they will be nude, completely naked. no, not really. other stadiums will be empty though. so juan, are you excited? i bet you're excited.

>> juan: wait a minute. can i go to that game? that would be something. >> greg: yes, it would. >> juan: i can't invite all of our panelists here but i'd invite you and jesse to keep it kosher. what strikes me, greg, how the world turns. are we a whole different world away from colin kaepernick and lock those sobs up. this is a big thing. tonight you'll see political slogans in the end zone about racism in america, the players will be wearing patches. i think they're going to play "lift every voice and sing" which some call the black national anthem. it's an amazing place. somebody is getting left behind but i'm not sure they know it. >> greg: kennedy, juan is making the point that it's great we're politicizing sports.

i would argue that you're probably going to be losing a lot of fans. what juan would say are being left behind suddenly. >> kennedy: yeah, it used to be escapism. that was one of the wonderful places to go to escape from the constant fighting and bickering that our society has devolved into because of our politics. i would rather not know the politics of my favorite athletes. that's just me. i respect people's right to protest and i understand that now is the time for people to have a conversation who never felt they could before, but can we just get back to normal sports a little bit? leave the politicking for a slightly different venue? >> greg: dana, i'm looking forward to overpaid hypocrites living behind gated communities telling me what a racist i am. >> dana: you know, i didn't

prepare for this segment in that way. >> greg: neither did i. juan brought it up. >> dana: i was excited because i just want to tweet about it. that's what i'm looking forward to. >> greg: you're going to make queso, dana? huh? >> dana: my sister is here. she's making chicken noodle soup. we're going to have food. >> greg: that's exciting. real football food. chicken noodle soup. you have nachos? no. soup for football. what a great thing to eat on the couch. >> jesse: want to come over and watch the game? i have hot soup. hey, gutfeld, a great monologue, by the way. >> greg: thank you. >> jesse: don't think i haven't noticed. did you have a hair cut today? >> greg: prepare for my g.g. show. that's when i do my writes. >> jesse: got it.

listen, i don't have the moral fiber that will make me not watch football. i don't care if a tackle a statue of george washington. they could wear the flag of china on their socks. i don't care. i want to see them in the end zone. i don't care what slogan is written in the end zone. i'm ready for football. >> greg: you truly have an immoral example for everyone. one more thing is next. ♪ go go go ♪

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it's awesome. go to ggutfeld.com. now, this! ♪ we've been talking a lot about inclusion in motion pictures. well, they finally announced the new james bond and it's a bush baby. here he is in one of the just released action sequences from the latest james bond. it's called with fur and love. and i think adele was doing the song again. it's chasing a villain that is done -- escaped with a hope diamond. i have no idea what i'm saying. isn't this amazing? anyway, that's enough. >> jesse: juan, should we tell greg how he bought up the tickets to his show in texas so nobody will show up? should we tell him? >> dana: as long as you bought the tickets. >> juan: i thought we were going, jesse.

>> jesse: yeah. me and you. that's because we heard there was the all-nude football game. go ahead. >> juan: it's true. it's in texas. anyway, imagine you're 4 years old, jesse but you already started in forest gump, jerry mcguire and pretty women. take a look at madison presser. >> my mom always said life is like a box of chocolates. >> that's it. >> show me the money! >> juan: madison's parents heard her repeating lines after the quarantine started. now she's starred in more than 30 videos recreating scenes from her favorite movies. the online videos raise money for a clarity feeding america, which supports 200 food banks across the country. currently madison and friends have raised close to 12,000.

the money i must say just adds to the joy that madison and her friends have brought to us all. a star is born! >> jesse: in scene from pretty woman did the 4-year-old recreate, i wonder? >> juan: the one with the hat and the shopping bag. >> jesse: got it. we have jesse's live shot news. here we go. so don't we all like live shots? because there's bloopers involved. makes us feel good as we sit here comfortable in our studio desks. let's see a blooper. >> the saving grace is on fields wear, the crops are thriving. he says it drives up production costs. oh! >> jesse: obviously it's the producer's fault as all mistakes made on air, it's always the producer's fault. you could see that coming a mile away. >> juan: oh, my gosh. >> jesse: dana? >> dana: oh, that's a good one.

animals are great, too. check out this dog. his name is henry. he's 8 year old border collie in norway. he can do human things. watch. he can walk on his behind legs. >> jesse: pretty good. >> he does it over and over again. henry, he's so cute. >> greg: he's like joe biden. >> dana: jasper can't do that. >> juan: walking backwards. >> jesse: better than the bush baby. no offense, greg. >> dana: the bush baby was good. >> jesse: i try to give you a compliment and you side with him? are you kidding me? >> dana: you're right. what was i think something. >> jesse: go ahead, kennedy. >> greg: the polk county sheriff got a desperate 911 call, a family found a gator in their storage shed. so the deputy showed up and look at that beast. turned out it was a pool floaty.

it was an inflatable. it was so realistic looking. the family was terrified. the sheriff came, conquered and took the wind out of him. >> jesse: "special report" is up next with bret. >> thanks. breaking tonight, president trump says he did not lie to the american people about the coronavirus. that statement coming one day after the president acknowledged that he underplayed the seriousness of the outbreak to avoid panic after saying as much at the beginning of the crisis on tape to author bob woodward. we'll hear more from the president, from joe biden and the top media managers for both campaigns a little bit later. we begin tonight though with this breaking story. microsoft is declaring the same russians that tried to disrupt the 2016 presidential race in the u.s. are at it again. but they're not alone. other countries are