he will be speaking later this afternoon, and i'll be back to host for neil at 4:00 p.m. eastern time on the fox news channel. i'll see you later. >> trace: i'll be watching. sandra, good to see you. "outnumbered" starts in about three seconds. good day. >> harris: and we begin with this fox news alert. president trump headed to las vegas eventually. he is set to fly to sacramento, california, for a briefing on the wildfires that have killed at least 35 people up and down the west coast, as you know. the president will also deliver remarks to the california national guard later today. we are following all of the commander-in-chief's travel today, and we'll bring you any updates as we get them. he'll be leaving las vegas, going to california, and we'll capture that as it makes news. and this is happening this hour. an intense manhunt is underway right now in los angeles for the

gunman who shot and critically injured two deputies in their squad car. it happened saturday night. the sheriff's office is calling it an ambush. l.a. county now offering it $100,000 reward for information on the gunman's capture. shortly after that ambush, prosecutors gathered at the hospital -- i should say, protesters gathered at the hospital where the deputies were being treated, with some of those people blocking emergency room access and screaming disturbing comments. the l.a. sheriff's department later tweeted this. "to the protesters blocking the entrance and exit of the hospital emergency room yelling "we hope they die," referring to the l.a. sheriffs ambush today today in compton, do not block emergency entries and exits at the hospital. people's lives are are at stake when ambulances can't get through." william la jeunesse's life for us in l.a. william?

>> harris, i watched several of these videos posted by protesters who went to the hospital on saturday night. while the deputies were undergoing surgery, about a dozen men blocked the driveway and try to get in, and they taunted cops who guarded theent, pigs," and multiple times saying, "i hope they die," and "you're next," challenging the cops to drop their guns and fight. it was shot on cell phones and they have not given us permission to use that, so we can't show it. this happened just hours after the deputies inside the patrol car, the suspect approaches, he fires through the window. he later escaped with an accomplice in a mercedes sedan. police have no motive, but posted that $100,000 reward for information on the suspect, described as a blackmail, age 28-30. that was given by the deputies. one was a 31-year-old mother, the other a 24-year-old officer, both graduated from the academy

just over a year ago. yesterday there was a counter protest supporting police. their cars decorated with blue and black balloons. >> it is not okay anymore. we need to let them know that not everyone is against them. we will keep those deputies in our prayers and hope they make it. >> the deputies are in critical but stable condition. doctors say both will survive, though shot in the face. >> i think they are going to embrace the idea that they were very fortunate, both of them, considering how many times they were shot, that they can actually walk away from this and recover. that's just a miracle. >> the sheriff said about five shots were fired, i believe. police say the surveillance video was shot with the fisheye lens and therefore distorted, so, harris, investigators are looking for more surveillance camera video, hoping to find a lead. right now, no suspects. back to you.

>> harris: all right. william la jeunesse, thank you very much. you're watching "outnumbered." i herself need. here today, melissa francis. attorney and fox news contributor, emily compagno. host of candy on fox business, kennedy. joining us today, former arkansas governor and fox news contributor, mike huckabee. governor, i come to you. there are a couple of things happening, one, the investigation of the ambush on those police officers. the other, people showing up in blocking entrances and exits of where they are being treated at a hospital. it's as if no lives matter when you see that. >> mr. huckabee: it is sending that people can be so cool, so heartless, so filled with hate, animosity toward police officers, if they would literally go to the hospital and wish them deaf. i wonder, can they be charged with accessory to the shooting? aiding and abetting. this is an outrage, and outrage against every law-abiding citizen. what an insult to those police

officers and their families. i just can't imagine this. let me just use this word, demonic. i can come up with no other word for it. you have to be filled with some demonic spirit to have that kind of rage and hate inside of you, that you wish people to be dead. >> harris: emily, what are the legalities of what we are looking at? let's unpack this a little bit. they are trying to broaden the net and find the suspect that is seen on camera, unloading a gun into the squad car that left those sheriff's deputies endured. let's start there with that wider net, and what pressure can be applied. always, in these instances, when you've got that video, that is usually a help. i would imagine somebody can come forth. >> emily: at a minimum, this is obviously attempted murder. there's also the extenuating

circumstances of clearly lying in wait, and also that these are peace officers, which brings these heightened factors that often with them bring additional consequent is like a death penalty. i want to point something out, for a lot of people calling that the death penalty would heighten this and lead to a deterrent in the future. recall that, and california, there is a current stay, a moratorium, that has lasted decades. luis braga montes is just one example of someone who murdered two police officers in 2014, and he is still on death row. unless there are federal charges that wouldn't happen, and it's probably just a waste of a ton of tax dollars. albeit i agree with the governor, i wish, too, those protesters could be charged with something heightened that would tie it back. unfortunately it's not foreseeable. legally i think that is an argument that won't work. at a minimum, there are no words, however, for how tragic and heartbreaking this is. i see this as a californian and also an attorney as something that is unfortunately foreseeable when you see a total dearth of leadership in terms of

decrying violence, and decrying those protests that grew into something different, that morphed into a violent, destructive, and nihilist force. this was foreseeable in that way and there has to be an about-face in messaging and consequences so things like this stop happening. >> harris: kennedy, as i watched those protesters and the vile things that they are screaming about the officers that are fighting for their lives inside that hospital in california, and i hear the word "demonic" from governor huckabee about those intentions coming out of their mouths, they hate coming out, i do wonder, if you are a peaceful protester, do you start to pull away at this point, and stay home and find other ways to get your cause, your justice, whatever it is, coordinated? because if you mix in with this group, what are you? >> kennedy: you have lost the argument. what you're going to have as a

backlash against what you were claiming to fight for in the first place. i'm talking about people who have been seeking criminal justice reform, and that is happening in both parties. it's been happening with libertarians for a long time, and they have a rational list of things they would like to see implement it. that is complete divorced from what happened. what happened was murderous, it was callous, it was cruel, it is condemnable on every side by every person who witnesses this. we cannot normalize this, and we have now entered the reign of terror. when people are making this a normal event by going to the hospital trying to block entrances and having such broad disregard for human life, nothing good is going to come from that mentality. these people are not brave. these people do not deserve a seat at the table when you are

talking about negotiating systems within our country that perhaps have been tainted with racism for hundreds of years. those people do not deserve a seat they are. they have lost the argument. there are bad people inherently, and this act is so vile that i hope joe biden does something more than come out and talk about gun control. what happened was attempted murder, and the only reason it was not murder is because -- who knows, positioning, or the surgeons who are able to save those deputies 'lives, thank god. >> harris: yeah. i mean, we've seen a lot of violence in just about every lane we can think of in the last eight, nine weeks. it has been heartbreaking. what you're talking about, kennedy, is there a candidate out there? will the president also ask which lives matter, and can we work on it immediately? because what's happening now is

not acceptable. it's not working, for anybody. it's dangerous for everybody. melissa, i want to go to this from the naacp chapter president. he tweeted this. "there is no such thing as blue lives. stop comparing your job with my life. your career is a choice. my blackness isn't." and where does that take the conversation, melissa? >> melissa: i don't know. i think to a place we don't want to be. to say that these police officers that were shot, that was a career choice, it's like saying being in the military as a career choice. i made a career choice to be a journalist, and i don't risk my life every single day for my community by going to my job in my career. what are police officers and first responders do is so much bigger than that. they leave their families every single day and risk their lives

for the rest of the community. to say that is merely a career is ridiculous, and to say -- i mean, it just -- the tweet is so irresponsible, it is so disgusting, weighing in to justify in any way a brutal attempted homicide, a vicious attack. i mean, one of the victims, the 31-year-old woman. she has a daughter, she is out doing the best she can for her community, she is earning a living for her family, she gets shot for no reason whatsoever. how do you even put out a tweet doing anything to even remotely justify any piece of that? what has gone wrong with the naacp? >> harris: governor huckabee, i want to give you the last word, and it has to do with humanity and finding it as a

society again. because what all of us are talking about today is making every life matter, no matter what. and it isn't a career choice, it's a calling, for members of the police force, the military. when they protect us, it's a calling for them. >> mr. huckabee: harris, they're out there for us. they're not out there for themselves. they don't get paid enough. they are standing between us and chaos and mayhem. the naacp has been a wonderful organization for many decades. they need to disassociate from this individual. they need to repudiate his tweet and demand that he repudiate his tweet, and to make it very clear that this is not something they support, or they will take decades of good work on the behalf of civil rights and flush it down the toilet. that would be a shame. this is an unacceptable view, to say that these lives really don't matter at all. they're not the same. every life matters, and i just hope that we can be human being first, not democrats,

republicans, independents, black, white, liberal, conservative. we can be human beings and recognize that, when someone has their blood spilled, it doesn't matter who they are. but it doesn't matter if they are cops and they are standing between us and that which would come and kill us. it does matter. >> harris: governor, the last word on this. we will talk about the politics of this moment a little bit later in the broadcast. the president is flying right now, or any moment, to california. for a briefing on the wildfires, which killed -- the number of hops, it's a number of people up and down the west coast. an update from california straight ahead. and this, senator bernie sanders has some advice for the joe biden campaign. why he says the democratic nominee could do more to appeal to voters with the election less than two months away. ♪ >> i think what needs to happen, joe needs to talk about what he

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you can see one of the streets that is blocked off right now. there are many in this neighborhood. you have officers at different intersections stopping traffic from going through, just so the firefighters have a clear path and they can make it up to this dry brush and stop some of these flames. this is just one of many fires burning in the west right now. the bobcat fire is only 6% contained and has burned more than 36,000 acres. the scorched land makes up some of the 3 million acres that have recently burned in california alone. at least 24 people have died from the fires in the state, as crews worked tirelessly to try and get these fires under control. president trump will be in northern california today for a briefing on all of the devastation. smoke pollution is also a big concern, as air quality has ranged from unhealthy to hazardous throughout the west because of these fires. the west currently has the worst air quality in the world as fires ripped through washington state, california, and oregon. recovery missions are underway in oregon were at least ten

people died and more people they are still missing. fast spreading wildfires have completely whacked out some small towns in oregon, forcing half a million people to evacuate, many returning to their homes to find nothing but rebel. >> i don't know what to say. i came back here for the first time, and it's the worst thing i've ever seen in my life. i have seen videos, but as a thousand times worse than i could have ever imagined. >> just to imagine these people coming back and finding almost nothing where they've lived all their lives. also you can see the u.s. forest service, a lot of fire trucks continuing to go this way as these fires continue to spread. red flag warnings are in effect for much of the west right now as more dry and windy conditions are expected over the next few days. melissa? >> melissa: christina, thank you for that report.

wow. >> we have got to do more as a campaign then just go after trump. what people want to hear is what joe is going to do to raise the minimum wage, and he supports a $15 an hour minimum wage. they want equal pay for equal work, they want us to expand health care to as many people as possible. those are some of the issues that people want to hear a little bit more from the biden campaign about. >> melissa: senator bernie sanders over the weekend on the state of the biden campaign, with just 50 days now until the election. those comments, part of his pushback at reports that he has expressed concerns about biden's chances. he says biden is in an "excellent position to win in november, but could spend more time talking about those issues." governor, i'll start with you. one of the problems is, when joe biden talks about issues,

you are left wondering sort of where he stands. for example, he talked to a reporter recently and said that he is not for a federal mandate on mass, but he's running an ad right now that i saw this morning which says that he would mandate that everybody in the country where a mask. it seems like he sort of muddies the waters when he drills down on issues. do you think bernie is right that he should get out there and try and clarify them? or, i don't know, will it make matters even foggier? >> mr. huckabee: i don't know that they could get any foggier. joe biden's message is like the mississippi river at flood stage. you can't see half an inch deep, because it is so completely clouded by the mud. every day he changes his opinion depending on who he's talking to you, and it's really not as opinion, it's whatever prompter he's reading at the moment. one thing i'm going to say, i agree with bernie 100%. i hope joe biden does go out

there and push these polities that bernie is talking about. let them push for a $15 minimum wage, because, first of all, to do that or federal level defies the reality that states are different. in some cases, $15 wouldn't hardly be much. in other states, they're already paying more than that. you're going to get a wage cut? that's it idiocy. let them talk about the things the left wing is so on fire about, and let them scare the daylights out of small business owners come out of corporations. let him scare the average factory worker, and that person who needs a job at the entry level. i can't think of anything that is better for donald trump than for joe biden to go out there and embrace everything bernie sanders stands for. >> melissa: kennedy, one of the problems is that, when he goes back and talks about issues, the place where he says he is now is in so many ways a direct contradiction with the obama-biden administration. he loves to talk about barack.

for example, the $15 minimum wage and the economy and fighting for the worker, during the eight years that he was the vice president, we saw median income fall, we saw the divide between rich and poor expand under trump. those wages at the lower end have gone up at twice the rate of their bosseses. it's the same and he talks about manufacturing and bringing jobs back home. the obama-biden administration lost 300,000 jobs. the president has brought nut back. immigration, obama-biden were the deporteds in chief. when he talks about his record, kennedy, how can he talk about where he stands without somebody else bringing up his record? >> kennedy: yeah, he's all over the place. and he talks about the mask mandate, kamala harris -- when he was saying, "there's going be a federal mandate for masks!" and she says, "that's what real

leadership looks like." "except for the federal mandate, there's not going be one of those because it will be challenged in court and it's possibly unconstitutional!" i still don't understand how they can talk about immigration with a straight face when, instead of taking up immigration, simplifying the law and clarifying who can come into this country and work legally, democrats took up obamacare. and now they don't know where they stand. you notice that bernie sanders didn't say medicare for all, although that's what he means in his little pink heart. he wants medicare for all, as did the united teachers of los angeles. they are demanding that before teachers can go back to work, which is insanity. bernie is also pushing for aoc to go on the stump, which is funny, because aoc shouldn't. she shouldn't be a pond. she's an antiestablishment person. joe biden personifies the establishment, and the only reason bernie sanders wants her out there is because she will talk about how great bernie sanders'. the whole thing is weird. >> melissa: emily, what's your

take? >> emily: that this is bernie's mission. this is quintessential bernie, to come out and try to push the party to the far left. we are seeing is a preview of what will happen if biden indeed wins. what we are seeing is a restrained version by burning, because he knows that biden is fighting for votes right now. if biden were to win, the risk is gone and he could really lean into him. just remember, the ultimate goal for bernie and his progressive allies is to get those allies and people like the squad into key policy positions so that a then president biden could harness and embrace these far left policy positions that they push forward, and that is where the party would then -- and country -- would then result in. >> melissa: and we can finally get rid of airplanes, which would be so great. >> emily: [laughs] >> melissa: starkly different reactions from president trump and joe biden to the shooting of two los angeles deputies. which each candidate is calling for, as a new poll shows voters have growing concerns about

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>> harris: let's get a check of the headlines now. less than three weeks after hurricane laura it, people in louisiana and mississippi are now bracing for hurricane sally. it was just upgraded from a tropical storm laura with winds of up to 85 miles an hour. at the top of the hour, there zooming these updates, and sally is a hurricane. it could make landfall tonight or tomorrow, we are told. watching it, obviously. pharmaceutical giant pfizer may be able to contribute a corona e by the end of.

this comes after astrazeneca resumes its vaccines in the u.k. last week it suspended those trials after one participants developed neurological symptoms. a new proposition in san francisco could let 16 and 17-year-old vote in local elections, which would be a first for a major u.s. city. a similar measure, it narrowly failed in 2016, but local activists are confident it will pass this november. i didn't know that many -- >> biden wants to help domestic terrorists, and my plan is to arrest domestic terrorists. we believe that, if you murder a police officer, he should receive the death penalty. [cheers and applause] >> harris: president trump pushing for a fast trial and perhaps the death penalty for a gum and a shot two los angeles

deputies over the weekend. this, as his 2020 opponent joe biden calls for gun-control fear within 24 hours after the attack, tweeting this. "weapons of war have no place in our communities. we need to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines." biden also called the act unconscionable and said the shooter should be caught and punished. the stark contrast in his messaging comes as a "new york times" poll is showing biden ahead of the president in four swing states. minnesota, nevada, new hampshire, and wisconsin. however, the times point out that it calls a potential vulnerability for biden this, "a larger share of voters in all of those states say addressing "law & order" is more important as a campaign issue than addressing the coronavirus pandemic." governor huckabee, that would be somewhat of a topic slip. how do you account for it? >> mr. huckabee: i think it's very important to note something.

there's a real difference between the way joe biden and president trump are looking at the crime going on. joe biden's approach? "let's go out there and take the 80 million gun owners in america and make them the problem." president trump says, "they're not the problem, it's the criminals. they need to be punished." the present director i had all during my years of governor, he used to make us timid that is brilliant. "we are locking up a lot of people that we are mad at rather than the ones we are afraid of." joe biden, in 1994, led to a lockup of a lot of people whose crime was nonviolent drug offenses. it fills our prisons, it emptied our treasuries, and it didn't really do a whole lot to stop a bunch of crime. there are people that need to be locked up. as a governor who had to carry out the death sentence, which was the most unpleasant thing i've ever done in my entire life, i don't like the death penalty. i hate it. but there are some crimes for which there really isn't any

alternative. i think the president's right. when you shoot a police officer and that police officer dies, you give up your life. >> harris: you know, emily, if you just kind of flipped the switch for a second, and you have the videos of george floyd's death and others now that have burst onto the scene, either previous or that have happened since, the questions about justice as people shot on the streets. there should be a conversation about the death penalty, perhaps. shouldn't be all-inclusive? with the governor is talking about is an attack on everybody, because those are officers keeping the peace. we saw on that george floyd tape is also unconscionable. >> emily: i would like to pull in what kennedy said in the first block which i thought was wonderful, that you lose a seat at the table of the national conversation if you are advocating for violence and engaging in violence yourself. that's number one. number two, it's already an

existing enhancement. i want to say all states and definitely the federal level, where the murder of a peace officer indeed result in capital punishment, but the issue is that a lot of states have moratoriums on the death penalty. it's the carrying outs that doesn't happen. the president was calling for the fact that, if you shoot a police officer, because those two thankfully did not die, but he's talking about the attack of the attempted murder, would thus result in that. i'd like to point out that biden's about-face is confusing, to go on our b block, but pretty revolting. in 2016, during that election when five dallas police officers were murdered, he said it was a time of national unity that it was calling for a period that it touched the soul of the nation. he is just engaging in inflammatory political rhetoric and talking about a weapons ban. to the governor's point, he's talking about guns rather than the actual criminals. it's an example to me why biden can't have it both ways. he can't capitulate to and court

the left wing of his party while also successfully pulling off his attempt to frame himself as this reasonable alternative to president trump. >> harris: what's interesting about that, when you hear joe biden talk about the past, with the governor mentions is so important. because joe biden, and that legislation, that crime bill, and clinton, as well, managed to do the one thing that no one has really been able to do. he brought both sides together with that. you had, at the time, the naacp on the same side as newt gingrich and others trying to get rid of those over harsh penalties under that crime bill. kennedy? >> kennedy: yeah, and joe biden was instrumental in filling up the prisons and incentivizing states to pack prisons, and that gave way to the pride of prison system, which is one of the things that criminal justice reformers want to take a very serious look at. because there seems to be something inherently wrong with incentivizing putting people in

cages. having said that, the only thing i can think of when i look at this is joe biden clearly owns stock in gun companies. because every time he spouts off rhetoric like this, he talks about assault weapons without defining what he means by assault weapons, which is an arbitrary word whose definition is very, very flexible and can encapsulate whatever blathering politician wants at any given time. people get shared and they want to arm themselves. when people think that police officers are being targeted and assassinated, or when they call 911, someone's not going to be able to help them. or when there are people sitting protesters on fire and trying to throw molotov cocktails into federal buildings, they get scared. they want to be able to defend themselves and their families because there is a great fear right now with this rhetoric that nonenforcement would not be able to protect you. that's obvious.

do you have to be able to protet yourself, and joe biden is criminalizing lawful gun owners trying to keep the family safe. that is wrong. >> harris: what's interesting about what you said, you point to the politics of this, melis melissa. it might be another choice with joe biden. i don't know what stock he owns, so i wouldn't even want to jump into that game. i know you are partly being facetious, perhaps, kennedy. but maybe another option would be that he does know the difference when he's talking about assault weapons. which would be worse? >> melissa: i think he doesn't know what twitter is, and that we are looking at his tweets as if he is treating them, and clearly he's not. there is no way he could possibly work on that, and more likely his campaign has some kind of algorithm, and it picked up guns or shootings somewhere, and spit out the obligatory anti-assault weapons before anyone could get to the computer

and sort of say, "that has nothing to do with what's going on today!" it just reveals that there twitter game is not so good. >> harris: all right, we'll move on. the biden team is reportedly creating a legal war room to protect the integrity of the vote, as more states encourage mail-in ballots due to due to the coronavirus pandemic. how would that work it, exactly? what does that even mean? ♪ veterans, if you could lower your

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>> melissa: the biden campaign is reportedly setting up a massive legal team that it calls "the largest election protection program in presidential campaign history." "the new york times" reports the campaign has brought into company former solicitors general, and hundreds of lawyers for its so-called "special litigation unit."

it will focus on legal battles already underway in multiple states that could decide how people vote and how ballots get counted this year. joe biden, earlier today, was asked whether he is confident all votes will be counted this november. >> i am confident that trump will try to not have that happen, but i'm confident that the american public will put its foot down. >> melissa: emily, let me ask you. is there any hope that it won't come to this on either side for americans who would like to have this election done, done fairly? we want all the votes counted, but we don't want it to drag on and on. or do you see it as a foregone conclusion that there is going to be quite a legal battle post-election? >> emily: there's always hope. i will say that. but i think it is, realistically speaking, a foregone conclusion. maybe it's the attorney in me speaking, but of course biden is creating a legal war room and illegal team that is gearing up

for this huge fight. if anyone wants trump to win, they better hope he's doing the same thing. 2020 will be the year 2000 on steroids. there will be contemporaneous public opinion battles and legal battles, and they'll be taking place in over a dozen crucial battleground states. the delayed results will create a media vacuum that needs to be filled, but it'll also create a whole host of opportunities for legal actions that will be designed to certify the results were delayed a result certification, or trigger a recount, and the like. i'm not always proud of my attorney brethren, but yes, rest assured, there will be fights coming. >> melissa: governor, if you were in your former seat as the governor, what would you do to try and protect the election in your state, or to try and have it be as fair as possible? what would you be doing right now? >> mr. huckabee: the most important thing is to make sure you have poll waters at every election site. i get it, that this is going to be full employment for lawyers,

period it, during all of this. the tragic would be if the elections come in on election day and there is clearly a winner, and then the lawyers go to work and try to disrupt the winner by saying, "we found a few ballots here, a few here," and it changes the results. then i think we've got a real problem. i hope the lawyers will do what lawyers should do. make sure everyone is following the law. i don't care who you voted for. if they try to use the law to circumvent the way people voted, or to somehow go capture and harvest ballots after they were legally due, that is not a process where lawyers out to be applauded. they ought to be disbarred. >> melissa: kennedy, i know a lot of people were saying, "i'm going to go vote in person." because they are worried about this. what are you going to do? >> kennedy: i'm voting by mail. i always do. i always get an absentee ballot. i love it, because then i can sit in my jammings and peru's

end think. i think it's really selfish to spend a lot of time in your polling place doing the kind of things i like to do. i like to be pensive, and i'm going to do that in the nude. [laughter] i know everyone is already talking about how the election is rigged, and it's a scam, you're just going to see the country fell apart. for people who like the gig economy, for people who like doordash and uber, all of that will go away. when society crumbles, you don't have your little millennial conveniences, and that's really the only good thing millennials has given to us. that's going to go away. >> melissa: i knew you'd have a fantastic answer. you never disappoint. protesters for social and racial justice front and center on the first full sunday of the nfl. is this the new normal? that's next. ♪ [narrator] this is steve.

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>> kennedy: the first full nfl sunday kicking off her justice. it varies from game to game and team to team, but there were demonstrations of some sort in every game. of the teams that played, seven stayed in their lockers during

the national anthem. others chose not to go out during "the star-spangled banner," and many players on the field during the anthem either took a knee or waved their fists. others locked arms. in some cases, coaches joined them. melissa, full disclosure, i watch football with you yesterday. we didn't see any at the beginning of the game. do you think that's going to be the new norm? do you think people are going to wait and conveniently bring their nachos out after kickoff? >> melissa: i wasn't sure if you were going to admit that you actually arrived at my house after all of that had gone by. we are neighbors. i was in the kitchen making delicious ranch dip during this part of the broadcast. i love football, and i could not wait for it to get started, but if i want politics i'm going to watch all of the lovely sunday programming, whether it's on fox or everywhere else, with an address politics.

i think these players have the right to do anything they want to, and i know people who are boycotting football this year because they say those players -- well, they don't like what they are doing. but i would say, why let them ruin football? while at either side run football for you? watch it, watch politics. or, like myself, make sure you are dip is perfect before your guests arrive. >> kennedy: and perfect it was. otherwise you're going to see women and wearing dresses wearing football pads, harris, if we bleed too many things together. "say yes to the dress" will become a full-contact sport, which might make it even more interesting. have these players found the sweet spot yet? >> harris: i don't think these players have found what works yet. i have talked with many of them on my show. i've got herschel walker coming up in the next hour. on friday, kicking great nick lowery from the kansas city chiefs, who previously won thursday night, i watched that

game. i love the nfl. what he said is it's time to stop the protests and start action. it's time for players of all cultures, diversity lanes, everybody, to take that leverage of the platform and work with police departments in their respective communities and start working out relationships. it is time for that. but the protests, i mean, what are they accomplishing at this point? by the way, how did i miss out on the dip? i'm just saying. [laughter] >> emily: you live in jersey. >> harris: i have a car! [laughter] you can have your dip, i'm over it. >> kennedy: we could have gotten hummus! more "outnumbered" in just a moment. we will heal all wounds. stay with us. ♪ false alarm. only pay for what you need.

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>> emily: being an nfl cheerleader is what enabled me to visit the deployed troops for two weeks in country in iraq and kuwait in 2009. alongside the veterans organization coronary for the seahawks, my point is, when you posted "go raiders" yesterday, i got vilified because people are so enraged, they don't see any semblance of what the nfl used to be or how we experience it. even the phone after tribute on the element, people are too far gone. there's no going back to them. >> melissa: thanks, everyone. here's harris. ♪ >> harris: a desperate search continuing this hour for the suspect in the shootings ofo los angeles sheriff's deputies. you are watching "outnumbered overtime" now. i'm harris faulkner. chilling surveillance video of the gunmen firing those shots at those deputies as they w