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surges and flooding because it is so slow moving. they expect 11 foot surges. that is something there's no write a you could survive that. so heed the local warnings. that does it for us. we'll monitor this. here's "the five." >> dana: hello, everyone. i'm dana perino with greg gutfeld, jesse waters and juan williams and katie pavlich. this is "the five." we're seven weeks out from election day. joe biden is hitting florida for the first time since securing his party's nomination. biden on the ground trying to stop thepresident's surge. he's still leading in the state but democrats are starting to get nervous. biden is courting latino voters because president trump is making gains with that group.
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of course, there's no love lost between the two candidates. president trump mocking biden ahead of his trip. take a look. >> he's reading notes and reading teleprompters all the time. he doesn't read them well. the man is shot. we can't have a man that is shot. you know who is not shot? putin, president xi. joe is not equipped to be president. he's shot. >> dana: katie, great to see you. i was thinking earlier today that if you think about the battleground states of 2016, ohio and iowa, they looked close for a while. but then they broke in a big way for president trump on election day. florida was much, much closer. it looks like now both candidates realize. president trump has been focused on florida since his iing -- inauguration.
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what do you think about it? >> it's nice to see them both on the campaign trail. starting to feel more traditional. these swing states were decided by thousands of votes. you have to fight for it especially when democrats are trying to win back voters that they lost to trump. when you look at the way the biden campaign is operating, you always want to campaign as if you're ten points behind even if you're ten points ahead. joe biden has been ahead according to the polling for months and he's always kind of acted comfortable with that and wasn't willing to get out there and really put it to the trump campaign and get that really far lead. now they're playing catch up and actually following president trump around, which looks bad. on top of that, we talk about polling. a lot goes wrong in 2016. good to look at the bigger picture here. the biden campaign maybe -- joe biden the candidate might be in florida today. he's not doing -- his campaign
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is not doing other events. they're not knocking on doors. they don't have a ground game. it's one thing for a candidate to campaign but you also have to have the network that campaigns on your behalf every day leading up to election day. joe biden doesn't have that in florida. he doesn't have it in pennsylvania or minnesota. they're dumping money on ads there to try to keep that state. so it's an interesting way to go about things and maybe it will be successful. but considering the closing of the gap doesn't look like it will work that long. >> dana: yeah, juan, what do you hear about the approach of some of these states? even michael bloomberg says he will put $100 million in florida. that's great for television. but what about the on-the-ground resources that the biden campaign doesn't have as much of? >> juan: they just added more staff in florida. there's a key distinction
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between approaches. biden believes the phone calls that the outreach by people who are already in social networks is effective in a time of the coronavirus. you know, the president has been highly criticized by democrats and lots of people for continuing to hold what the critics call super spreader campaign events. these big rallies without taking precautions. he just has that trouble in nevada that we talked about yet with the governor. to my mind with regard to the latino issue, trumps that had some success with the socialist message for latinos in south florida among cubans in particular there. cubans make up a third of the electorate in terms of the latinos in florida. but given the trouble that the president has had with seniors, you can see joe biden leading among seniors in florida. i think that's why the contest is so close. as you point out, trump won in
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16 by 1%. biden has room to grow with the latinos especially in that i 4 corridor, tampa, all the way -- orlando. you can see now a third of the latino vote in florida made up of puerto ricans. those people have not necessarily been counted in polls. they're not necessarily registered. they haven't voted previously in some cases. i think that when you start to see joe biden talk to them about trump's opposition to a pathway to citizenship, his opposition to making the dreamers dream come true in terms of american citizenship, when he reminds them about the wall, he's got a lot of message to deliver. >> dana: one of the things that president trump is focused on, jesse, is the american dream, but not so much in terms of the pathway to citizenship but the economic opportunity that he has
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compared to biden. >> jesse: i agree. it will be a dogfight in florida. trump will win it i predict. he has to win it to take to electoral collect. biden hasn't been there in a year. he lost an eight-point lead. now he has a 1.6 lead. everybody knows the president is doing better than what he's showed to do in the mainstream media polls. that's why bloomberg just panicked and dumped $100 million. the cubans, the venezuelans, they love this president. they're scared of socialism. it's not a message as juan said. it's the real deal. they've seen it close and personal and they don't like what is coming out of bernie and joe biden's mouth. the president has been very aggressive when it comes to courting these hispanics, when it comes to targeted advertising with hispanic radio, facebook. they're doing maga meets, the boat parades, knocking on doors. biden has done very well with
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puerto ricans and he has to turn those people out. if you're a hispanic in florida, you're either owning a small business or you're working a small business predominantly. the message of higher taxes, higher regulations, global warming, climate change, that is not what you want to hear. you want to hear robust economic message and that's what the president is focused on. to juan's point, it really does show how dynamic and fluid the trump base is. that he can maybe shed some seniors and some suburban women and make up for that with large turnouts in minority populations, populations and constituencies that have not been traditional republican strengths. he does have the wind at his back when it comes to covid-19. because it peaked in july when it comes to death and cases in florida and now those have been cut dramatically in half. plus the real estate market in florida booming that will help the president. >> dana: all right. there was something that happened.
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i want to do a call for greg on it. kamala harris said the quiet part out loud perhaps. take a look at these things. >> a harris administration together with joe biden as the president of the united states, the biden-harris administration. >> harris-biden administration will relaunch that effort. [laughter] >> dana: just maybe a slip of the tongue. but fun nonetheless. >> greg: the fact is, it shows, they're having a hard time hiding the reality here. that really he is the vice president. he's okay being the vice president. he's a nice guy. he just wants to be there. she's the president. right? he's just a seat warmer. let's not kid ourselves that he's controlling this thing. there's people above him dealing with this stuff. can i talk about the latino issue? it's not just the latinos. it's also blacks. i'm going to use an analogy, if i may since i invented them.
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i live in a place upstate with one cable company. i don't get good service. it's not like i can switch. there's a town next door with two cable companies. so when there's a mass power outage, where is the service guy going to go to first? he's going to go to the town with two companies because he will be fearful that he will lose his clients to competition. he doesn't have to worry about that with me. if i lose my cable, i got to deal with it because it's not like i can switch. all right? this is the problem with democratic voting blocks. for the longest time, the democrats just see them, they're the only game in town. so if they treat you bad, you're stuck with them whether you're blacks or latinos, you're stuck. because they're the only cable company in town. the problem is that is changing.
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trump has changed the game. he knows that you have no where else to go unless you go to him. if you have power, you have power when people are fighting over you. you go to the republican party as a latino or a black, you can run the damn thing. people would be so happy to see you, they would go crazy. meanwhile, the democrats are oh, blacks, and latinos, go sit over there. we can depend on you. you come to the republicans, you'll get first class treatment. that's the difference. competition works. >> dana: right. i hope you get your cable back on the. >> greg: i do too. it's not happening. >> dana: coming up, dramatic video of the two l.a. sheriff deputies fighting to survive after being ambushed. greg's monologue on that is next.
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nearly being assassinated. it's jarring. also strange. strange that these images aren't everywhere. when videos of police incidents that lead to riots instantly go viral. also on sunday, i saw this twitter moment from that media platform. it reads "protesters took to the streets in lancaster p.a. after a man was fatally shot by police." what is missing of course is context. what the left loves when it excuses their bad behavior. turns out the man shot was a violent suspect rushing at the cop with a knife. i guess twitter thought that information wasn't lead-worthy. according to abc news, 2019 sawed 228 cop suicides. they face trauma every day. they respond first to things that no protester will ever see. they respond first to things that protesters run away from.
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murder, suicide, domestic abuse. you don't hear about that because it doesn't get clicks. you know, how many off duty cops save lives? i don't. but there may be 50 incidents a year with police that can lead to unrest. the context comes later. so you don't hear the 911 call, why the cops came in the first place. was the suspected high, mentally ill, endangering others. all you see it how it goes when it goes bad. maybe it's an algorithm that knows how to spark rage. if all of these viral outrages go in one direction, pushing videos that spike hatred of cops while minimizing any good that cops do, you have to wonder what is going on? two officers recovering from gunshot wounds could benefit from that answer. so could the others put in their place. so katie, i'm always -- i've
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always -- i understand good news, airplanes landing safely, that doesn't get the clicks. but we have to do something about this imbalance. the demonization is leading to this. >> you know, one thing that i've done, i've taken a few of the courses of the shoot no shoot scenario training that the police officers have to go to. it would be helpful the journalists decides not -- it would be helpful if they took the courses and understand and get in the mind said of the life or death situations that police officers have to put themselves in every single day. when they continue to push propaganda and not tell the full story when they have the full context of the information, that's when you do have to question what is the motivation here. why would that the not include certain pieces of context. is it they're embarrassed because they jumped the gun and ran with a narrative is not true
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and it's not always about police brutality or race when it comes to these situations? or is it a bigger problem with them deciding that they're going to take on the narrative of many of these agitator groups, they're going to burn the country down and going to react to these situations with violence and rioting. we've heard people say that. so there's questions that the fbi is looking into, the connections of a number of people that move from state to state to continue to agitate this violence. there's context that is available. maybe not initially. when it's not reported, when we have the information, there should be questions about what the motive is behind the people pushing out the information not including all of it to tell a bigger story. the dehumanization of the police is a big thing and we're seeing with it the police officers paying with their lives. >> greg: jesse, it wasn't just twitter that left out that knife wielding fact.
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it was cnn. i think cnn put it back in the fourth paragraph on their web site and npr left it out in their headlines. they know what they're doing. why do they do it? >> jesse: they do it for profit. they do it for politics. angry and divided electorate is good business for them. good business for people in washington and good business for people who are running these media companies. greg, have you noticed that trump supporters have not rioted and looted after the police officers were shot? i wonder if biden and harris will visit the two police officers. they visited jacob blake. he was assaulting officers and going for a knife. he didn't have the most pristine back ground. they flew there. maybe it was a swing state. greg, we have covered these almost weekly the last year. sadly many of them are different but also they're all strikingly similar in this: later you find
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out that there were drugs in the system, felony warrants, felony rap sheets. you see someone going for the gun, a taser, resisting arrest, punching the officer, spitting covid saliva at the officer. going for guns. these things come out drip, drip, drip, maybe even 72 hours after the fact. are they being held back purposely? are they being buried in the ninth paragraph of the npr article? of course they are. of course they are. you actually have to look and do your own research to find out the full spectrum of these incidents. it's sad because there are other incidents that are out there that don't get the play. black guys shot the wide kid in north carolina got no play. black on black in chicago all the time with no play. officer david durham, law enforcement gets shot. almost no play. if there's a white officer involved in anything involving a
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black suspect, no matter what happens, that will get wall-to-wall coverage. >> greg: in terms of coverage no coverage, viewers send me stuff. i didn't hear about this until yesterday. september 5 in alabama a guy went to a bass pro shop in alabama armed to the hilt. a mass shooting ready to happen and the cops stopped it. no news. if he had -- he had like five, six different weapons. just had everything. he had his wife helping him. that went nowhere. we don't hear these stories. >> dana: yeah. you're right. that goes back to your point about the planes that land safely. when cops prevent crime, there's not like -- you think about the old fashioned -- remember the community newspaper where you had the crime beat? those kinds of things maybe would get in there but probably not. i know we're running out of time. i'll make another mention about
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the media and coverage. i know that collectively americans -- we all want americans to do better. we want people to have opportunity. imagine if there were more stories about role models that people could follow. think about the two deputies that were shot. you show the video of them taking care of each other calmly. you know, and in florida, remember during the school shooting, you had one of the fathers of the victims saying look for the helpers. those are the helpers. those are the role models. they deserve more attention. i admire them so much for what they're -- what they were able to do in that moment. the poise and the -- just the competence of their training. i hope that we get to hear the story from them when they're feeling better. >> greg: i hope they recover completely. it's amazing that they pulled through after being shot that many times.
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juan, last word. >> juan: well, this clearly -- the shooting was despicable. i like you was touched by the selflessness of the female officer who had been shot in the jaw and then she's helping her fellow officer so that she stopped the bleeding and played a critical role in saving his life. the shooting was horrible and been condemned by all sides. >> greg: not really. >> juan: the larger point is -- there's no question from joe biden to everyone else that condemned -- >> greg: you heard from blm at all? >> juan: can i finish? >> greg: go ahead. >> juan: thank you. >> greg: i'm fact checking. >> juan: oh, my god. you don't want me to talk. is that it? you think you should go on and on? >> greg: go for it. >> juan: thank you. i think the larger point here is that there is overwhelming consensus in our country of the need for police reform. this kind of violence doesn't
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undercut that need. people that are mentally ill, people that might be reaching for a knife or drop -- that doesn't mean they have to die that they should be killed. >> greg: nobody said that. >> juan: america is saying there's a clear pattern here of people who are killed by police and overwhelmingly they are minorities and generally blacks. today in louisville, you had the city of louisville pay $12 million to breonna taylor's family and institute necessary police reforms. that's what is going on. don't get lost up in all of this kind of emotional -- >> greg: do you mean cops with shot in louisville in the last three months? look that up. look that up. >> juan: thank you. oh, my gosh. >> greg: some democrats in the media trashing the president's historic middle east peace deal. ♪
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♪ >> katie: president trump calling at this time dawn of a new middle east after overseeing the signing of new peace deals with israel, bahrain and the united arab emirates. >> this proves that the regions are breaking free from the failed a briefs of the past. the people of the middle east will no longer allow hatred of israel to be fauxmented for radicalism or extremism. they'll no longer allow the great destiny of their region to be denied. >> katie: of course, democrats attacked the deals before they were even signed. here's what nancy pelosi said. >> good for him for having a distraction on a day when the numbers of people who are affected and the numbers of people who are dying from this
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virus only increases. >> katie: take a look at some of these headlines calling the agreement a mirage and sham. so dana, saudi arabia may be next on the list according to the president for normalization. this is anything but a distraction. a beautiful day of accomplishment. given your experience, what do you think about what happened today? >> dana: i think it's a tremendous diplomatic achievement. short term credit might not be in the offing for president trump. i wouldn't see it from the media or the democrats. but long-term, this will be look at as a pivotal turning point. i believe it is -- with us made possible because during the obama administration, perhaps the worst diplomatic effort was made, which was the deal with iran. president trump campaigned heavily on undoing that deal. that shook up the middle east. he then pursued isis. got that taken care of.
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now the most important thing, it's not that it's a peace deal, it's the fact that now you have these countries recognizing israel. israel is not going away. imagine what that must feel like. if you're an israeli. that is a tremendous accomplishment. a lot of hard work. a little risk. terrific timing in terms of pressing the issue in the middle east and now i believe that iran, syria and lebanon will have some big decisions to make. they're definitely on their back foot. >> katie: greg, president trump got us out of what you call the prison of two ideas and here we are today with more coming. >> greg: i'd like to think i was responsible for that with this idea. but if nancy calls this a distraction, what is it a distraction from? stuffing her face with more
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gilatto. somehow peace is a distraction or there's no crime wave or antifa, those are good people and cops getting shot just means you need more police reform, how is that? this shows you why trump works unlike other presidents. he has basically two mottos. i like to make deals and let's see what happens. he wasn't tethered to the past. he wasn't burdened by the baggage of ideology. that made it possible for other people to come to him because they're thinking, well, maybe he might talk to us. i heard this guy likes to make deals. it's a big contrast with joe biden. biden will never impress you with like great, great greatness. he's the master of the little move. you know, he's the express of words, looking good in aviator sun glasses and the bomber jacket, the effortless smile.
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but he will never pull it off. only somebody that is able to jump off a cliff on an idea can make this happen. >> katie: jesse? >> jesse: this is possible because we're drawing down our forces from the middle east. we don't have to baby sit the saudi oil feels. we're energy dependent and the cold war is over. we decimated isis. we tore up the iran deal and took out soleimani. so it's forcing other people to recalibrate their own alliances, to set themselves up for new arms deals, to kind of confront iran as a group together and have some independent security. this is possible because we don't put the palestinians at the forefront of this deal. now we can sit back, remove ourselves, we can send them weapons and let them play in this deadly sandbox. we're not going to lose more blood and treasure here.
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all americans should be very grateful that this is possible. >> katie: juan, this is not about two governments making a deal. the israeli people and the ua people are welcoming each other to visit each country. why is nancy pelosi calling it a distraction? >> juan: because it is. this is a moment that you can look at the sayings and say the real trouble here is between the palestinians and the israelis. that situation has not been helped. what we're doing here in this situation is we have the bahrainians and the united arab emirates, they had diplomatic and security and trade ties with israel, katie. it opens the door to possibilities. here is the action in the united states giving serious arms to uae potentially 0 to go after the iranians. so what we're doing is stirring up a proxy war. that doesn't diminish the chance of war or disruption in the
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middle east. it accelerates it. so i think we have to look honestly at this, note it's taking place in the midst of an intense american election ands that what's going on at the white house. nobody is fooled by it. there's reason for hope. let's not fool ourselves. >> katie: you'd hope the normalization of arab countries against an israeli state is good. we'll move on. election day chaos could be coming. why the biden team is preparing for a legal fight. ♪
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building their own legal war room filled with hundreds of lawyers. it includes eric holder to fight any election related court battles. jesse, what is the big deal to your mind about lawyers protecting a fair democratic election? >> jesse: it's not a big deal at all. the democrats are late to the game. the republicans have been doing this about 1 1/2 years. they have massive amounts of resources. they have regional directors, state directors, they recruit 40,000 volunteers per state to become poll watchers, election judgers, ballot counters. they filed litigation to make sure that signatures must match and that ballots can't be accepted after the election. they've been filing litigation on how you count ballots, who counts the ballots and the democrats are trying to say we don't want any rules. signatures don't have to match and you can count ballots in
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december. republicans all they want is transparency and rules. that will happen this time. >> juan: all right. so dana, the president has threatened i believe michigan and nevada over mail-in voting. what do you think is going on here? from the democrats' perspective, they're trying to make voting easier in the time of pandemic. >> dana: i think both seeds are seeking to make sure that there's an even playing field or they have a slight advantage. i'm not surprised this is going on. we're in the middle of a pandemic, a tightly contested election and a situation where people are going to be voted in different ways. so there's always lawyers involved. in this case, jesse is right. the republicans are well-organized. democrats are late in getting organized. they'll get there. here's my recommendation. if you have any expertise in election law, you better be warming up because you're going
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to be called upon probably for quite a while. i'm assuming for probably a little bit of time after november 3. this won't be announced on november 3 is my prediction. >> juan: all right. greg, this morning on "fox and friends," president trump was talking about nevada and he said that he thinks the governor there will cheat and he says that it seemed like he was trying to undermine any support for the legitimacy of this election among his supporters. >> greg: maybe. i don't know. i wasn't up. so i didn't see that. but i'm just excited about having experts on to talk election law. i think that will be huge. my concern is if we don't have results or that they're too close, what we really need is a decisive election. because you can see the outcome
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in your mind's eye if we don't. if it's too close, it's going to be contested. if biden just loses by a little you're going to have antifa and blm will use that has an excuse to go out on the street and infiltrate the outrage. i'm not saying they'll be outraged. they'll use it as an excuse. so i'm worried that there will be more unrest the longer this goes on. i think we have to make sure that we have a definitive outcome and i'm hopes it's a decisive decision so we can all somewhat sweep somewhat well though i find that impossible. >> juan: katie, what do you think? >> katie: i agree with greg. i think it needs to be a landslide either way so we can avoid more questions. but do you remember the 2008 senate race between norm coleman and al franken? on election day, coleman was ahead. you know, it was november 4, november 18, al franken, lawyers
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get involved. they find 950 absentee ballots that the lawyers argued had been improperly rejected and al franken wins the election by 225 votes two weeks after the election. there's a reason why there's so many lawyers involved now. republicans learned their lesson with that senate race because they didn't have as many lawyers as franken did. so there will be lots of lawyers and lots of reasons why they're involved and lots of absentee ballots being argued to be counted after the election day for sure. >> juan: thank you. more of "the five" coming at you next. ♪ 'cause you're not like everybody else. that's why liberty mutual customizes your car insurance,
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invented six months ago. shouldn't we first hired the humans that lost work to do this job before this little metal munchkin takes over? that things creeps me out. doesn't it? >> jesse: it can't be biassed, greg. it's a robot. it's a cop with no biases, juan. >> juan: i agree. it's like man's best friend. we had a story the other day about a robotic dog that could tell if people were not problem early social distanced in the park. now here's the robot to say hey, you have to have your mask on. you can't argue. you say i don't believe coronavirus is real. it just doesn't make sense to argue with a robot. >> jesse: well, i can have a pretty good argument with a robot if i had a few drinks. katie, do you think the robot should be able to shoot people? >> katie: no. absolutely not. >> greg: that's a good leap. >> katie: glad to hear that greg is finally coming to the around
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that robots are evil and will take everything over and won't control them. i'll just say is this robot should not come near me. doesn't want anything to do with me. i'll wear a mask around the rob robot. for its own safety, stay away. >> jesse: we've done so many robot segments on "the five." i've not seen a real robot do anything. i'm beginning to think that companies them them out so "the five" talks about the robot. >> dana: you're probably right. the public relations firms are making a killing and we have yet to see a robot. i'm afraid the robot will tell me i'm not wearing the mask properly. i have a problem. all of these masks are big. so, you know, i knee a kid's mask. >> jesse: you probably do. you have to get the mask to tighten up. >> dana: those are good. love those. >> jesse: one more thing is up next.
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♪ >> it's time now for one more thing. what do you have today, juan? >> juan: well, dana, i think all of god's creatures love a good laugh and that's obvious looking at these pictures. they are winning photos from the comedy wildlife photography award, take a look. that's a parrot fish out in the canary island. here is a giraffe photo bombing her pal. and here we have a butt scratching baboon from pat swa swana. those are man gooses shot. he is not happy to have his picture taken obviously. so those are. so 44 finalists for the comedy wildlife contest. the winners will be announced in
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october. the prize a one week kenyan wildlife conservation group. >> dana: i have got to show you. this it happened in massachusetts. nap by a pool. there is a visitor. and it is a bear. and the asleep and then all of the sudden he woke up the guy. he just tapped him on the foot like hey, dude, you might want to pay a little bit more attention. that's matthew bete. and i got to say, matt, glad you had your camera there. hey, greg, what you got? >> massachusetts. all right. let's do. this greg's how many nuts. all right. before you roll this video.
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dana, how many nuts? >> dana: 125? >> gregg: katie, how many nuts? >> katie: 23. >> gregg: juan, how many nuts? >> juan: what are we talking about a jar of nuts? >> gregg: just give me a number. [laughter] >> gregg: i don't know. how about 150? >> gregg: jesse how many nuts? >> jesse: two. >> gregg: let's roll and find out how many nuts. [laughter] >> katie: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. >> dana: it's not going to be 125. >> gregg: answer on 7 how many nuts. next week, how many watermelons. >> katie: that's really great.
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>> dana: i love it. jesse. >> jesse: i had the under. you correction news. guys, this doesn't happen often on the show because i usually don't make mistakes. this might be the first correction i have ever had to make in the history o of "the five" for me personally. i have been mispronouncing something. i have been saying nevada. apparently the way to pronounce the state is november. nevada.it is nevada and that's t time i mispronounce that state. >> dana: now everybody will get it right. all right. katie. >> katie: all right. last week i had the opportunity to go to phoenix to see the d.e.a.'s results from operation protective shield which targeted meth at the border and in other cities around the country. there is attorney general bill barr with a bunch of firearms that were confiscated as a result of the operation. more meth. it's been easier for the d.e.a.
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to confiscate the stuff a bucket of crystal meth. >> gregg: dana is grueling. >> katie: border has been closed. grenade they confiscated. the attorney general said meth may become a bigger problem than opioids. it was something to pay attention. to say. >> dana: all right, katie, i have got to run. i'm not drooling. "special report" is up next. hey, bret. >> bret: hey, dana. why are seven weeks away from election day. seven weeks today. what is sure to be a hard fought battle with some of the most intense political warfare this country has ever seen, perhaps. it's another type of warfare we begin with tonight though. the literal kind. and with the trump administration hopes is a major step avoiding what the president calls blood in the sanctioned. israel has established formal diplomat i can relations with two of its neighbors and first step toward securing middle east peace. president trump promising more countries are lining u
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