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>> melissa: fox news alert, the gulf coast is on edge as slow-moving hurricane sally is now losing further inland after making landfall in the gulf shores of alabama earlier today as a category 2 storm, causing widespread flooding and packing sustained winds of 100 miles an hour. chief meteorologist rick american myth has more on where the storm is heading next. rick? >> hey, melissa. an incredible storm came online with 105-mile-an-hour winds. a category two can storm. another hurricane making landfall across parts of the gulf of mexico. the majority of the moisture, a little bit farther off toward
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areas of florida. that's where the heaviest of the rain has been paid we are continuing with tornado threats throughout the day today, probably even into tomorrow as this continues toward the north. not generally the really large destructive hurricane, but some smaller spin ups that can happen and caused quite a bit of damage. wind is now still into the 50-60-mile-an-hour range, down across areas of the panhandle of florida and areas of eastern alabama, southeastern. take a look at these rainfall totals that have fell already. anywhere in the white, we are talking about rainfall totals that are around 24 plus inches across a lot of area around the panhandle of florida. that has already cost some really significant flooding, and we will continue to see that flooding as we are probably going to deal with another 4-8 inches around parts of the panhandle of florida, just a little farther off toward the east. this is the future radar of how it plays out over the next couple of days. notice by tomorrow evening we are still talking about a lot of rain across areas of the carolinas. i think the heaviest of the rain is going to be a little more
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toward the interior section. take a look at where flood watches and warnings are. anywhere throughout north georgia, and across south carolina, north carolina, and across parts of virginia. once you get into the southern appalachians, it's going to flow through really quickly. watch for some really impressive and dangerous stream flooding there. by the time we even get to, say, parts of north georgia, we are talking 4-8 inches of rain. estuaries with additional isolated up to 12, but take a look at this. we have another two days of this. an incredible storm and such a slow mover which is why we saw so much of that reign. it will take us a while to get a sense of all of the damage that happened from this one. melissa? >> melissa: boy, rick, that's a lot of water. thank you for keeping an eye on it for us. we appreciate it. and another fox news alert, house speaker nancy pelosi facing growing calls for hi some
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democrats to pass the current best relief bill as negotiations remain at a stalemate. pelosi has refused to back down from our demand for a larger stimulus package, which includes aid for state and local governments, something the white house and senate republicans oppose. but frustration is boiling over. particularly among democrats in tight races. one house democrat reportedly stayed on a call with leadership yesterday, "my conviction is to actually do my [blank] job and come up with a solution for the american people. we have to bring something to the floor." how speaker pelosi defending with the lower chamber has done so far including passing the heroes act months ago. >> it's important to note this, that was four months ago. may 15th. this has accelerated since then. we have additional needs for restaurants, airlines, and the rest, and those things have to be taken into consideration, as well.
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in order to stay with meeting them halfway, we will have to make further cuts. but that's about negotiation. we can put a bill on the floor, but we want to put a bill on the floor that will become law. >> melissa: this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. here today's harris faulkner. fox business anchor, dagen mcdowell. executive director of serve america pac and fox news contributor, marie harf. joining us today, former speaker of the house and fox news contributor, newt gingrich, author of the recent book, "trump and the american future." speaker, i want to go to you first, because i feel like, when i look into this, nobody is being honest about what is in their way of doing a deal. and you have such good experience on the floor negotiating these things. what do you think is really going on behind the scenes? does either side really want to make a deal here? >> mr. gingrich: well, i think you could very accuratel very an
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a minute ago. these are newer democrats up for reelection, getting enormous pressure from back home. people who are really hurting, saying to them, "don't tell me about washington politics, tell me about what you're going to do for my small business, my local school," whatever. meanwhile, speaker pelosi and democratic leader schumer really have a huge obligation to illinois, new york, california. they have these enormous pension funds. new jersey and connecticut. they want to get close to a trillion dollars as they can, to pay off these pensions that are disastrous for the states. the republicans would like to get a bill. they do think the economy is growing. [coughs clos] exceeded me. they're going to pay for their mistake. somewhere in between, i think what will happen is that she will be forced, probably by next week, to bring a smaller bill to
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the floor. it will pass, it'll go to the conference, and by the end of next week or the following week something will get to the president's desk and be signed. that's my guess, from where we are right now. >> melissa: so, dagen, the way speaker gingrich lays this out, it is a fight over whether states and municipalities get a freebie. because, if you've been following this story, midsummer, treasury approved billions and billions of dollars in a line of credit for any state or municipality that is having trouble paying any of its bills. you can go to the treasury and borrow whatever money you need in order to pay for ppe or whatever it is that your region needs. you just have to pay it back. but nancy is saying, "no, no, no, we want a gift instead." >> dagen: yeah, nancy pelosi, remember, she thinks that you want to talk about the little
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folk out there, she thinks a thousand dollars is crumbs. remember that comment she made about the bonuses people got from employers? listen, the states in the original rescue package got about a quarter of a trillion dollars. a lot of that money hasn't even been spent yet. that's equal to three months of revenue coming in to a state, and you look at the receipts, the revenue that's coming into california, it's coming in above expectations because the stock market is up so much, from capital gains taxes being paid. so, what nancy pelosi is holding out for, at the expense of some of the swing districts, is a major -- she wanted a trillion dollar bailout for those super left-wing liberal brethren in blue states who don't know how to do math. really quickly, the republicans can wait on this. based on where the economy is -- and i am not dismissing the people who are still collecting unemployment -- we
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have retail sales for last month up more than 2.5% from a year ago. they are actually better than they were last year. the economy this quarter is growing about 30%. the numbers are coming in. by the way, president trump did pass an executive order, an extra $300 per week in unemployment benefits, that the vast majority of states have gotten approval to use. so, they can take their time, and they don't need to -- they don't need to step up for nancy. >> melissa: yeah, interesting. president trump tweeted about ththis this morning. i want to get to harris and a second, but i want to ask marie, nancy pelosi is very clever and very good at what she does. she is not "crazy nancy," as jim cramer called her yesterday to her face. far from it. she knows exactly what she's doing. do you think she's playing this right, or does it have the potential of backfiring if a
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deal isn't done soon? >> marie: speaker pelosi has very good at holding her caucus together. you are seeing some restlessness, though, among some of these moderate democrats in swing districts. mitch mcconnell, on the senate side, the republican leader, also has some challenges. he has a number of senators up for reelection and very tough races in swing districts, places like colorado and iowa and maine. he's also getting some pressure. but he also had a challenge within his own caucus. they cannot agree on how much to come up to sort of meat speaker pelosi in the middle. i agree with speaker gingrich that, in the next week or so, i expect a series of smaller covid-related packages packages to pass through the house that will then put the senate on the hook to pass them, as well. let's also not forget, melissa, at the end of september, government funding runs out.
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not directly related to covid relief, but also a big chunk of business that the house and the senate have to come together to get done in only a few days to prevent a government shutdown. so, a lot on congress' plate right now. i do think speaker pelosi will move on this. we'll see what the senate republicans do in response. >> melissa: okay. so, harris, this is according to the president. this was his tweet today. "democrats are heartless. they don't want to give stimulus payments to people who desperately need the money, and whose fault it was, not, that the plague came in from china. go for the much higher numbers, republicans. it all comes back to the usa anyway one way or another." he's telling republicans to go for the bigger numbers. what are your thoughts? >> harris: yeah, this reminds me that we are 48 days away from a presidential election and one side is talking. you're not matching hearing much about stimulus.
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i'm hearing anything at all? let me check. from biden or kamala harris. nancy pelosi is the speaker of the house, but there is supposed to be a unified party. you have north of four or five states that are already beginning to vote right now. in this election year, the things that managed t that mattr to them. to have the president tweet about that, it's easy for him to say it makes them look heartless, because the clap back isn't, "oh, my gosh, no one's going home." we had a little bit about that from democrats yesterday. "until this deal is done. we will skinny it. make sure it's just those things. no additives put in there. will make history with a skinny build to help the american people." i haven't heard that wording. in an election year you allow your opponent -- and opponents, in this case, because it's more than just the president running, there are a lot of people up for reelection. it allows them to shape the conversation. to put names and labels on you that maybe you don't deserve,
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but you are not letting your actions count against them. now that we have people already voting, it's going to get really interesting. because they know that they need help. the question is, are democrats going to step up and say, "we hear you?" >> melissa: we will be watching, that is for sure. weeks and months of protests in austin turned violent. the record-breaking price tag for all of that damage. next. ♪ veteran homeowners: why refinance now?
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also, he's an arizona republican, told fox news this. "it'll be about "law & order" and attacks on police and neighborhood communities. we will be allowed to control time on the floor, and we are going to have a series of members come and speak to these issues. it's going to be a good group, a diverse group of speakers. it's from all over the conference. they will bring their own subjectivperspectives from whatg on." so, newt gingrich, do you think this is necessary? how do you think it makes a difference to have these voices talk about this issue? >> it's very necessary. first of all, we were all told for a long time that these were peaceful demonstrations. now we discover that they were anti-american looters, many of them organized across the country, such as antifa. it's legitimate to say, where did the money come from? how do you certainly have people showing up in kenosha from 44 different cities?
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they literally arrested people, over half the people arrested in kenosha were from out of town, from 44 different cities. how did this happen? who is paying for it? who is behind it? we've just discovered, with all the wildfires in california, that portland released a guy who started a wildfire and he went out the next day and started six more. i think it is legitimate to say, "what's going on? how sick the system become? who is paying for it, how to be go back?" remember, all the mainstream media told us these were peaceful demonstrations. now we are being told they were the most destructive in american history. >> harris: you know, i wrote down what you said, speaker, because it was so interesting. "how sick has the system become?" that seems like such an important question to ask. dagen, i think you have some
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numbers that can indicate how bad it could get and how sick the system might be. >> dagen: it is hard to quantify how much damage was done to these businesses and these communities. normally -- we are talking about insured losses. we are watching the storm, sally, today. you will have total damages that could be more than doubled the insured losses. with rioting, most insurance policies don't cover riots. we are talking about livelihoods destroyed forever, and a devastation for families and individuals, particularly small businesses, that we would never be able to quantify. i just want to hear more outrage and more condemnation from all the people who talk about peaceful protests. because, as the speaker said, as newt said, peaceful protests don't cost billions of dollars and destroy people's livelihoods.
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>> harris: you know who knows this so well are those grieving families that we see, from george floyd to rayshard brooks and so on the summer. they were calling for peace. not only did they see the destruction of life, but they also saw the destruction of their own home cities and towns, so on and so forth. they knew, they had to have known at the time, it wasn't going to make a bit of difference. it certainly wasn't bringing those loved ones back. marie, as they come to you, i want to hear the answer to why. why is this continuing to happ happen, and where are democrats making a difference? they could be on the stump, they could be out there talking. look, they are willing to defund the police and take notes and demands from the street. but can they talk back to the street to get people to go home and stop this? >> marie: the leader of the democratic party has repeatedly condemned looting. that's joe biden, our nominee. he's been on the ground saying that. >> harris: is not enough? >> marie: i'm glad, hear us,
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he mentioned the families of the black americans who have been killed by police officers that sort of set off a lot of these protests. they have also called for calm. toledthe leaders of the peaceful protests have condemned rioting over and over again. there's a study last week done that showed way over 90% of the protests in the wake of george floyd's death were in fact peaceful. i think what is interesting -- what will be interesting to see, these court cases unfold over the coming weeks and months, of people arrested for looting and rioting -- which, again, democrats have condemned across the board, democratic leaders certainly have come a democratic elected officials have -- with those motivations were. we have seen a variety of affiliations from the folks already arrested for looting and rioting. some are members of far left groups, some are members of far right groups. there is a big mix here. as we determine who is responsible, and how to prevent this in the future, candidly, we should look at those court cases.
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one more note, harris, insurance also doesn't cover, in general, losses related to the coronavirus. it's been a very long, hot, nasty summer for a lot of reasons for many of these businesses, including the wildfires and the hurricanes, and, of course, coronavirus. it's been tough. >> harris: melissa, i did a quick follow, i don't know if marie can hear me, but is condemnation in your voice and your words enough when you're not on the ground? you got to go to these people, and at least if it's not the peaceful protesters that you're talking to, talk to everybody else. go home. the peaceful protesters have a right to be out there. but their voices, we can't even hear them anymore. >> mr. gingrich: harris, can i say something real quick? >> melissa: it's not enough, and the reason why i know it's not enough is because i talk to these people all the time on my business show at 4:00 p.m. we put faces to the different small businesses that have been destroyed. i have to tell you, many of
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those faces that we have had on our black and brown, and they have created a business from the ground up that is their entire livelihood. they have stood there while looters, rioters, protesters, whatever you want to call them, smash their windows, for their customers. many of them, as marie points out, were trying to recover from the coronavirus when these folks came along and torched their businesses and brought them to the ground. they haven't seen any sort of relief. no one has come to help them. i think, for a lot of people, they see the numbers around the destruction and they don't think about that every one of those businesses is the family, a face, person, struggling with no way to support their family. that's what i want to see in this hearing. that's what i want america to see, the faces of these people whose lives have been destroyed by this violence.
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>> harris: they represent everybody. >> mr. gingrich: harris? >> harris: speaker gingrich, i know you have a final thought for us. >> mr. gingrich: the number one problem in almost all the cities is george soros elected left-wing antipolice pro-criminal district attorneys who refuse to keep people locked up. just yesterday, back on the street who was wanted for two different writers in new york city. you cannot solve this problem. both harris and biden have talked very proudly about what they call progressive district attorneys. progressive district attorneys are antipolice, pro-criminal, and overwhelmingly elected with george soros' money. they are a major cause of the violence we are seeing. because they keep putting the violent criminals back on the street. >> melissa: i'm not sure we need to bring george soros into this.
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>> harris: i was going to so you could get the last word, speaker. [laughs] >> mr. gingrich: he paid for it. why can't we discuss the fact that millions of dollars -- >> marie: no, he didn't. i agree with melissa, george soros doesn't need to be part of this conversation. >> mr. gingrich: okay... so, it's verboten? [silence] >> harris: okay, we're going to move on. i was directed the white house. we discovered it from stem to stern. major change in the middle east. however, maybe not according to some of the broadcasting networks, or even us on cable. speaker gingrich gives us his take on israel normalizing relations with two gulf state neighbors, next. >> they are choosing a future in which arabs and israelis, muslims, jews, and christians, can live together, pray together, and dream together. ♪
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>> melissa: some top headlines we are following this hour. the mount wilson observatory in california spared as the bobcat wildfire continues to intensify. fire crews battling the fire within 500 feet of the landmark building, using barriers and bulldozer lines to contain the flames. the trump administration revealing a detailed coronavirus vaccine distribution plan earlier today. health officials saying the goal is to ensure that any vaccine will be available for the public for free. and the big ten conference announcing they will play college football this fall, voting unanimously to start a new schedule the weekend of october 24th. the organization decided through testing and cardiac screenings as a reason to reverse the earlier decision to postpone the season.
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woohoo! >> today's signing sets history on a new course, and they will be other countries very, very soon that will follow these great leaders. today the world sees that they are choosing cooperation over conflict, friendship over amnesty , prosperity over poverty, and hope over despair. >> melissa: a historic moment at the white house yesterday when president trump hosted the signing of an accord that normalizes relations between israel and two arab neighbors. a potential big game changer in the quest for middle east peace, but the major networks, in the evening broadcasts, didn't exactly see it that way. >> before the ink was dry, there were already signs that israel still has enemies in the region, and they aren't celebrating. >> but it's more of a business deal than a peace accord. >> is andrea mitchell reports, broader middle east peace is
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still an elusive goal. >> but it is not middle east peace. left out, the palestinians, abandoned by their arab neighbors, powerless to do anything but protest. >> president trump proclaiming this a peace agreement, but the countries were not at war. >> melissa: all right, our man in the virtual metal, newt gingrich. you have a lot of experience watching these types of deals play out. it was just months into your first term in congress when the 1979 peace treaty between the jewish state and egypt was signed and then brokered by then president jimmy carter. you were also there with bill clinton when you saw another attempt at this. what is really different about this approach, a lot of people were saying yesterday, is that the president tried to start with the palestinians and the israelis. that didn't work out. instead, he's trying to get others on board to broker a larger piece that ultimately could include palestinians and maybe even the iranians, or
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might force them to come to the table as they see others around them accepting israel. what do you think of this deliberate and different approach? >> mr. gingrich: well, that's part of the reason you have so many never trumpers among the professional national security class. trump broke with a 30-year pattern of appeasing the palestinians, and appeasing the iranians. he want a totally different direction that all the so-called professionals knew was hopeless. i give jared kushner a lot of credit, they developed the very first trip overseas, to riyadh, the king of saudi arabia brought 54 different countries, the largest muslim gathering ever with an american president. they spent three days there, and that led the base for where we are today. he moved to the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem, taking that off the table. he recognized the golan heights, where it was occupied by israel,
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taking it off the table. he stood up to the iranians, the opposite of the biden-obama technique. instead of sending him a billion or $100 million in cash, that made them contemptuous, he began applying sanctions. all of the sudden the arabs began to say, "hey, we can actually rely on the united states." united arab emirates were very eager to form an alliance. this means that the two most sophisticated countries in the region, with the best militari militaries, are now allies. dog rain came along and said, "you know, i kind of like this relationship, because they all want israel to help them against iran." frankly they are fed up with the palestinian group. the administration is in its 25th year, because the palestinians are so corrupt. i think a lot of the arab states are saying the palestinian leadership, we can't influence what we are doing, to cut a
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deal, because we are going to have a relationship. they said again yesterday, he thinks we may see as many as six more countries. i just thought it was astonishing listening to what you just played. can you imagine if joe biden or barack obama had add two countries agree, recognize israel, and both of them come to the white house? can you imagine how wonderful the coverage would have been? how magnificent an effort would have been? just think about how pathetic situation is. trump achieved a great breakthrough and he does get another five or six. that will be astonishing momentum. >> melissa: harris, we watched this live yesterday and talked to a lot of people about it. to me, listening to those reports, nbc nightly news and andrea mitchell might be the
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most disingenuous of those, saying they left the palestinians, abandoned by their arab neighbors, powerless to do anything but protest. yesterday, as we examined on the show, they were asked to come to the table for us. they are not powerless. they could have said yes, but as former israeli ambassador told us yesterday -- yeah, go ahead. >> harris: they are run by a terrorist organization. of course there powerless. who thought they had any power? it's more than being invited to the table. is hamas going to allow you to go? when you get there, can you actually sit down? nobody has their best interests at heart. let's be real about that. when you step in as another nation 90 try to bring two sides together , you need equality the table where people's best interests are being talked about. i don't know that hamas is going to do that for them. let me just say this, general jack keane was on with
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me yesterday. speaker, he said this is a geopolitical paradigm shift. he said that is specifically true. forget about the five, six others. if it is just saudi arabia, the world their changes. what do you say about that? >> mr. gingrich: i think general keane is right. when you have the leader of hamas saying -- and is quoted as "the new york times" as saying, "not a single jew will remain," there's not much ground for negotiating. all these countries, first of all, they are much more afraid of iran then they are of israel. they've decided they have had a half-century of trying to help the palestinians, and the leadership is so corrupt that it manages to grab the feet away from victory every single time. they're looking out for themselves in an intelligent way. general keane is right, this thing has billed now -- remember, for three and half years, this was a conscious strategy. again, i want to go back and say that, without jared kushner, it would have not occurred. he implemented with the
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president wanted, he went out and try to handle things that didn't work, they learned some lessons, went back and tried some more things, and we could be on the verge of a genuine profound tip in the whole region totally to the advantage of the united states and the disadvantage of the iranians. >> melissa: marie, quick response? >> marie: normalizing relations is a good thing. it is also true, everything we played in that opening, all the comments on other networks are true. there is no chance the uae and bahrain were going to go to war with israel. the israelis are still nervous about some of the military hardware there u.s. might be selling to them. i think what's important is what happens next. if you can get a country like saudi arabia, who has a long history of official anti-semitism, countries like lebanon, it seems silly to talk about syria, but those are countries that have actually been at war with israel. the palestinians, i think, were sort of left out to dry by these
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other arab states who have chosen to prioritize iran over the palestinians, people who are living under occupation, half of whom are not living under hamas, their living under the plo, and to see their country, potentially the land that could make it up, increasingly shrinking because of israeli settlements. there is a group of people with no rights and no country right now. we cannot forget that in the wake of what is a good development with these normalization agreements. >> melissa: or, forget that they are ruled by terrorists. white house senior advisor jared kushner will be joining harris on "outnumbered overtime," discussing the mideast peace deal and the latest on the 2020 campaign. you don't want to miss that. plus, the death of daniel prude in rochester, new york, sparking protests there, and a major shake-up of city leadership. why police leaders urge the city not to release the body cam video that showed his arrest.
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>> harris: we are learning rochester police commanders urged city officials to hold off on publicly releasing body cam footage of daniel prude's arrest, which lead to death from suffocation. the department reportedly feared violent blowback if the video came out during nationwide protests. the then deputy police chief wrote in an email to his boss, "we certainly don't want people to misinterpret the officer's actions and conflate this incident with any recent killings of unarmed blac black y law enforcement nationally. that would be a false narrative, and could create animosity and potentially violent blowback in the community as a result. speaker gingrich, i come to you for your reaction and your guidance to leadership on where we go from here.
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>> mr. gingrich: i think we ought to have a policy that every policeman has a body camera and he ought to have a policy of a fairly rapid review of any incident in order for the public to have a sense of security, that they are actually seeing what happened. by contrast with what happened there, in another recent incident, the body camera show that the guy that was shot had a knife and was identified by the policeman, if he hadn't been stopped. i think we have the truth as a baseline for all of this, and it can't just be he said, she said. we do have the technology now that body cameras are basically universal. and we have the right training, and the right process, so people know for sure that we are going to see exactly what happened. i think things would come down dramatically. >> harris: interesting. you know, dagen, each of these situations, whether you're talking about what happened at that wendy's, or outside that
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wendy's in atlanta with rayshard brooks, george floyd, any of these situations, they are very individual. they deserve an individual look at justice and investigation, some of what the speaker was just talking about right there, waiting for the facts to come out. making a determination, though, they are not going to show something to keep the protesters kind of at bay, is that fair or necessary? >> dagen: i think in any circumstance, harris, you have to choose daylight, and quickly. because the fact that this video stayed secret, if you will, or buried for this time, it actually hurts the relationship between the police and the public. but then, it will take much longer, particularly in rochester, for it to be repaired. i just want to point something out, i go back to congressman will hurd who raised the issue about police department's across the country who don't know how
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to deal with people who are mentally ill, or drug and alcohol addicted. a quarter of fatal police shootings involve someone with a mental illness. very little training is required in the state for this. it must be an area of focus. >> harris: yeah. i've had talks with sean hannity about that, the training of officers, giving them the tools to deal with all the things that they are facing right now. we'll move on. we are awaiting the white house press briefing. it is set to begin at the top of the hour. we'll take you there live when it happens. plus, joe biden has given plenty of fodder to those who would say he'd be just a placeholder for his vice president, kamala harris. the comments he made that make him sound like he is already second in command. we'll talk about it. ♪ still your best friend.
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daniel blake is a senior fellow at aei, and she wrote an op-ed that addresses this very issue, saying that she believes that joe biden would be very much a teleprompter president. we don't know who is writing the words that are in the teleprompter. it could be the radical left, such as kamala harris, she and he both said she's at the top of the ticket. it's a slip up, obviously, but the implication is that, even for never trumpers who don't like president trump, at least it wouldn't be a wholesale takeover of the government by the radical left. is that a fair criticism in your mind? >> mr. gingrich: they have picked the most liberal member of the senate. she voted to the left of elizabeth warren, to the left of bernie sanders. i think you have to assume she'll be dominant. just look at their energy levels. she's young, she's aggressive,
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she has big ambitions. biden can barely get to the teleprompter, and he can't always follow the teleprompter. i don't think the teleprompter said harris-biden. i think you have to assume this is a harris administration with biden allowed to go out and make brief talks. >> melissa: i'm betting marie does not agree with that. >> marie: joe biden's at the top of the ticket. he won the primary. kamala harris didn't make it to iowa, so i think it's clear who's in charge here. also the idea that kamala harris is to the left of bernie sanders is laughable. the left would love if that were the case. it's not the case. if republicans have a debate with a focus on kamala harris, democrats are ready for it. she raised $6 million loan yesterday in the 24 hours after she was announced at vp, she war $24 million. she's kind of the popular. for her to be on the ticket and for joe biden to be highlighting
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that, democrats love that. every day of the week, melissa. >> melissa: accidentally putting her at the top, what are your thoughts there? >> dagen: wasn't an accident or was he covering up for her mistake earlier? i'm just raising that. and at least he didn't say bernie-biden. [laughs] i think that's what people are more concerned about. how about cardi b-bide it's great alliteration and you can be sure he watch the video. [laughter] >> melissa: will be back in a minute. save for your retirement, update your home, maybe buy a new car? record low rates have dropped even lower. use your va streamline refi benefit now. one call to newday is all it takes to save $3,000 every year.
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now, here's harris. >> harris: this hour we are expecting a white house press briefing to begin at any moment, and the timing, is less than two weeks before the first presidential debate, and president trump and joe biden are taking aim at each other politically, as you know. this is "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. it will bring you that press briefing as soon as it happens. i want to start with, though, hurricane sally, which is now lashing the gulf coast and inside 20 miles for making landfall further into our nation now. forecasters are warning of the potential for life-threatening storm surge and flash flooding. the storm flow movement is expected to have a disastrous impact. you see the bottom of the screen, 20 miles just north of pensacola, florida, now. that hurricane made landfall officially and initially earlier today near gulf shores,
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