seven. thanks for being with us, everybody, we look forward to seeing you tomorrow when we will have dr. scott atlas to continue our conversation about how exactly it's going to work on this vaccine is ready to go. up next, tucker carlson. good night, guys. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." on february 6th of this year a group of researchers from the south china university of technology uploaded a paper on the origins of the coronavirus. their paper found that contrary to popular accounts the virus likely did not originate from an exotic animal in a so-called wet market. instead the researchers concluded "the color coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in wuhan." to restate, the researchers who concluded this were chinese scientists who worked for a chinese university and for that reason understandably they were concerned about the health

implications for their own country of what they found. your paper ended this way. "safety levels may be need to be reinforced in high-risk biohazardous laboratories and regulations may need to be taken to relocate these laboratories away from city centers and other densely populated places." as it happens, february 6th which is the day that paper went online was also the date of the first coronavirus death in this country. so the american media had every reason to pay attention to at the chinese scientists had found. but, they didn't. for nearly two months the chinese paper was all but ignored by news outlets in this country. march 31st the show broadcasts of content and by then 3700 americans have died from the coronavirus, tens of thousands were then hospitalized. so we imagined it would be a serious national effort to find out where this virus came from, to find out how the pandemic started. but we were wrong about that. there wasn't, there was silence.

people in charge for public health infrastructure simply ignored the chinese government's version of events. that was five and have months ago. during those five and half months our society has been completely offended by the coronavirus, nearly 200,000 americans have died from it. now more than ever we believe it is worth knowing where this disease came from and that ought to be the first question. in search of an answer on this show, we spoke to a chinese virologist. yang was one of the first scientists on earth to study the wuhan outbreak in december of last year before the rest of the world in existed. what she found during her research put her on collision course with the chinese government. in april she fled her country and feared for her life and now she lives in the united states in hiding. here's some of what she told us last night on the show. >> for my first report i had

solid scientific evidence to our audience that this virus covid-19 south korea to virus is actually not from nature. i work with the top coronaviru t in the country and i can tell you this is from -- and also it is spread through the world to make such damage. >> tucker: do you believe the chinese government released this intentionally on purpose, did they do this? >> yes of course, it's intentionally. >> tucker: covid-19 is not from nature she said it, it was created in a lab in wuhan, china. the chinese government intentionally unleashed it on the world and those are her claims. are they true? we have no way of verifying them but we do know that dr. lehman yang is not a quack.

she's reviewed papers on coronavirus transmission both the nature magazine the lancet which are two of the most respected publications in science. what was published online is not frivolous. she identifies so-called to cut sites which were frequently used in genomic engineering which will allow scientists to swap in sequences from other viruses to create what she described last night as a frankenstein a weapon. she writes that she has firsthand knowledge of the chinese military has a template virus with cut sites designed for that very purpose. once again, we can verify this but it's clear that dr. lehman yang is a serious person and making a serious claim. so within a few hours of her interview a video of the segment reached 3.1 million people on facebook. and why wouldn't it, the coronavirus pandemic has touched the life of every american. justifiably people want to know where it came from.

but facebook still doesn't want you to know that. so facebook suppressed a video supposedly on behalf of the chinese government. it was harder for users to watch the segment and those who found the video had to navigate a warning of the interview that "repeats information about covid-19 that independent fact-checkers say is false. instagram, which facebook also owns does the same thing. he did not explain why. nor did the tech companies explain why they would know more about disease transmission that an md phd for virologist like dr. lehman yang. instead facebook and instagram linked to three so-called fact checks which supposedly proved yang was lying. if you click on the provided links you notice something odd. the fact checks were all published months ago, many months in january, february, march and they had nothing whatsoever to do with what he he said on her show. in fact they wrote, does anyone

know who she was. the other is a completely unrelated claim, that the virus was patented. no one will tell us that. the truth is, and you know it if you watched carefully. experts have been wrong frequently throughout the pandemic and at one point they told us not to wear masks and now they tell us we must. they have changed their prescriptions many times. most of them are not bad people come up most of them are trying their best but they are human beings and they are also fallible and make mistakes. the solution to this age-old problem can be used to understand that intuitively is more informed voice in the conversation and that's how you make wise decisions and that's how you get to the truth. diversity of view. facebook doesn't believe that, they believe in censorship. censorship does not make us wiser and does not make us better informed. if it did we would be speaking russian right now, the soviet union would run the world and it would have worked.

and the collapse under the weight of its own absurdities. absurdity is abetted by censorship. anything built on lies falls apart over time. anything that stands on the way of the power must be crushed. mark zuckerberg explained that any challenges to the party line on coronavirus will be censored immediately. also other misinformation that may lead to imminent risk of physical harm, and misinformation can't be allowed to spread to our system, zuckerberg declared. so what exactly may you be wondering constitutes this information?

what the definition of that? in practice, misinformation according to facebook as anything, and anything that embraces big tech allies in the communist government of china. information like that is misinformation and must be censored, not for your benefit, it doesn't help you at all, but for theirs. to solidify their power. so in july facebook and twitter took home a video on the new site breitbart of practicing physicians and front-line doctors pointing out that hydroxychloroquine could help coronavirus patients. listen carefully to what the doctor say in this video. >> this is a treatment regimen that is very simple and should be in the hands of the american people. the difficult aspect of this is that at the moment because of politics it's being blocked from doctors prescribing it and it's being blocked from pharmacists releasing it. they've been in power to overrule the doctors opinion. i am in favor of it being over

the counter. give it to the people. >> that's true. authorities are pro-choice when it comes to hydroxychloroquine, but they spoke declared that they could not be allowed, because those claims constituted and that in itself was dangerous information. researchers at henry ford health system in southeast michigan found that early administration of hydroxychloroquine made hospitalized patients substantially less likely to die. these are not politicians or tech executives, they are physicians enough what they found an equitable practice. but none of that mattered to the 25-year-old humanities major, major, they decided you absently could not see that video because it questioned the status quo. but in a way, in doing that and censoring that information, it

was dangerous. to the same elites that give it to the people. nothing could be more dangerous to silicon valley than democratizing access to the truth which is something they believe they have been a monopoly on. alphabet which owns the search engine google, a monopoly if they ever was one, is even more protective of its complete stranglehold on information, which it has. in april they took down a video from dr. dan erickson. he said he was being pressured to indicate that patients were dying of coronavirus when in fact they died because of other causes. many physicians have said that. he also cast doubt on the need for universal social distancing. >> we aren't pressured to test for flu.

but why is that, why are we being pressured to add covid to maybe increase the numbers and make it look a little bit worse than it is? i think so. >> tucker: this is a physician practicing medicine. count the number of lectures. between a woman and her doctor, not in this case. you can't see that. if they are willing to take that off the internet, if they are willing to censor that and prevent you from seeing it, but will he do with the election results a month and a half from now? youtube so the video that you just saw must be censored because it explicitly disputed the efficacy of local health authority recommended guidance. notice they didn't even bother trying to clean that dr. erickson was saying something false. no. they just said contrary to guidance from unnamed bureaucrats in the government. talk about state media this is what state media looks like. demanding that you must believe

some unelected bureaucrats from the state, taking his word over of practicing physicians word. recently youtube censored a video from dr. scott atlas, and it dr. atlas argued that maybe we don't need universal social distancing measures. some groups of americans are not in great danger, and that is obviously true. no serious scientist disputes the accuracy of that statement. but then dr. atlas did what you can absently not do ever in this brave new world they've created. he pointed out that statistical models, the technocrats use to justify their's existence have been catastrophically wrong. >> the policymakers in general, they put in a locked down didn't care at all, they did not look at all at the consequences of the lockdown.

they used hypothetical projection models that were so egregiously wrong, far, far off, yet they keep citing those models. >> even now? >> even now. so the extension of the lockdown is the problem. >> tucker: so this is why that should scare you. that was not allowed by our tech overlords and yet no one disputes what dr. atlas said in the clip you just saw was true. look it up and verify it, assuming you are still allowed to. because it is true, we will continue to say it and things like it. fox news believes in free speech and we plan to exercise hours because unlike the majority of america's news in america we are not beholden to facebook and youtube for our revenue. as long as that's true we will let you report and you decide.

dr. scott atlas is here. thank you so much for coming on. let me ask you a broad question to start. what does it do to the practice of science when certain areas of inquiry are off limits or censored? >> thanks for having me. we've already seen the near's obstruction of journalism. when you start censoring science you are removing fact, removing the basic way that we decide what is truth in what is not. this has been done i think historically in various countries and you know, we are teetering on the edge of what is done in third world countries. countries we assume proudly distinguished from. we need to have a reliable news media. we need to have scientists who are able to question and in the beginning as i pointed out in one of my tweets, people used to think the earth was the center

of the solar system, the earth was flat. these things are actually proven and went out to be able to accept differences in science and go forward and prove it. frankly a lot of the stuff that said as you pointed out is not even disputing the science. we have a bunch of people in this country now and we aren't really at the hysterical end of things and somehow it's all about the science, all about the science. but when you cite the science and it disagrees with what those people's impression of the science is, you are deemed -- you are not allowed to go on. so you better know the science and understand the science and then you better say things that are consistent with the science. >> tucker: where are the brave scientists and physicians and researchers? where are the people who are going to uphold the essential principle of free agency that we need to function as a country and why are people flipping out about this? why is the head of memorial

sloan-kettering not staging a hunger strike? >> despite what people think there's a big backlash going on. i received thousands of people per week from people all over the world including hundreds of weeks from medical scientists and the like and they were afraid to step forward. i think this sort of moves to censor people like me, and others, and it really has precipitated a backlash here. he saw it in the media and now lots of things have been written talking about what i have said and how outrageous it is that stuff was censored or, even in the interests by some of my former colleagues and it censoring me back public shaming and cancellation. these kinds of things are destructive and harmful and not only is it wrong in terms of the truths, it's also in steering fear into the public. in this pandemic we have people that are so afraid that they

can't even function. we need to allow the debates and we need to look at people who can articulate the science and interpret it, take everything into context and move forward. i think americans do not want to be afraid, they didn't want to see a chaotic discussion where you are canceled if you disagree. there are legitimate people like me but there are also experts coast to coast. i'm talking about colleagues of mine who are actually rational from stanford, harvard, ucla, tufts, all over the country. i speak to these people all the time. i just had a conversation with a nobel prize winner instructional biology tonight about these sorts of things and it's very frightening. we need to have the debate or the facts to be able to be presented. >> tucker: yes, we need mass resistance, brief people to stand up. and you are one of them, grateful you are here tonight. one of the where rare members of congress who has thought a lot

about the effect of big tech monopolies is missouri senator josh hawley. you have been coming to your credit, a warning about this for quite some time. clearly this has arrived fewer than two months from the presidential election. these companies have a hammerlock of information. what can we do to throw off their control and restore freedom of speech and thought and inquiry in this country before them? is there anything? >> we can let people sue, tucker, and we can let people like dr. atlas they do. her twitter account gets canceled, right now we can't. if you get discriminated against on the basis of speech by these platforms, you have no recourse because of the law that congress has written. this is the heart of the sweetheart deal that gets from big government and it is time to end it.

that's how we can get their attention and that's how we can get power to individuals end-users and americans that take power away from big tech. >> tucker: amen. and of course the trial bar, an unlikely ally would join them. so who is standing in the way of such an obvious and much-needed solution? >> the washington establishment, much of what big tech owns. big tech has shelled out enormous cash, and seen that with my own eyes on capitol hill. they have bought influence with think tanks and with groups, including conservative groups all over town. if i tried to influence members of congress and staff but it's unbelievable the juggernaut that they have come big tech has. the american people are tired i think of big tech having all the power and them having none. the american people have a nun and they are demanding change. and that's ultimately what is going to get politicians

attention. it is nothing that politicians respond to like voters. voters say we've had enough of this and we are tired of being told what to think, what we can say and what we can read. we are tired of the big tech the capital of woke tell us how to live their lives. voters are demanding change. >> tucker: this election come this november could be a legitimate historic disaster. that's going to be very frightening and i hope a solution arises before that. thank you so much for the work you've done. >> thank you. there's been an awful lot of confusion this week. and we report this with no glee. just concern. simple questions like, what office is joe biden running for.

>> tucker: at a virtual roundtable on monday, joe biden's running mate with the mask slip for a moment and forgot to pretend it was actually joe biden running for president. it's pretty amazing. >> and administration together

with joe biden, the biden-harris administration. and it's unbelievable. it's a warm-up act. the headliners are humiliating. might expect joe biden to be at -- joe biden appears to believe that he is in fact running. and this is real footage from yesterday. we are pushing them to find meaningful careers. >> tucker: it's worth noting that joe biden appears to be reading from a teleprompter naturally, so maybe the campaign has gone ahead and made it official. maybe this is how we are fighting the patriarchy.

judge jeanine pirro is the author of the book "don't lie to me" and don't try to steal our freedom. and does not work? >> that's work. and then, there are slips that are not inadvertent and the fact that she says the harris administration with joe biden, it's clear. she knows what she's saying and, like what's going on behind closed doors and what are they not telling us. maybe president trump was right when he talked about joe biden being the trojan horse in that election, and it's really more interesting when the next day, i

think 24 hours later, she comes out and says it's the harris-biden administration. you just kind of go along with it, and you wonder if this has been the plan all along. >> tucker: maybe after she said it, and kind of laid down the mark, he decided to be sexist to try to correct her and tried to roll with it at that point. joe biden probably said to himself, i have to be careful about this patriarchy. you've got it, tucker. >> tucker: it's so awesome. kamala harris also said she's proud of jacob lake, the guy who was shot in kenosha, wisconsin. she met with jacob blake's family last week. here's a clip of kamala harris

after that meeting. >> you know, they are carrying the weight of a lot of voices on their shoulders. >> just one, to express concern for their well-being, and letting others know they have support. >> tucker: so jacob lakes father is like a lunatic actually, reid has social media posts. kamala harris doesn't think anything about it, and she thinks that's worth praising. and, let me make the facts are clear on jacob lake in case anyone forgot them.

there was an outstanding warrant for jacob lake when the police were called on august 23rd. the outstanding was open the day that jacob lake went to that scene where he was ultimately arrested, he was -- there was an order for the court prohibiting him from being at that scene. he stole khakis from the individual that he had previously been accused of molesting, and each puts one of the police officers and a headlock and ended up being shot. now fork kamala harris, let's make one thing here. she was the attorney general of the state of california. when you are in law enforcement, it's in your blood. you don't use lose it. she changes from plural dell micro law enforcement to probe criminal and the fact that she would visit that family and talk

to them about how wonderful they are, she didn't visit the victim in that case. the victim was hysterical, she was crying. she was worried about her own children and this was a nightmare scenario for her that was repeated again. now you have two cops, one is a woman with a 6-year-old child and another is a recent rookie, a graduate from the rookie school. that indicates the side that she's taken. she is in favor of black lives matter, in favor of defending the police and her silence in the situation where people are hoping that police die, they are supporting the massacre and the attempted murder of these two officers tells me that her silence is acceptance and for all of us, it tells us what is coming in a harris-biden

administration. >> tucker: she supports black lives matter but black lives matter has endorsed the murder of police officers. thank you for reminding me that. judge jeanine pirro, great to see you. >> it is great to see you. thank you and good to be on. >> schools are certainly already completely over school and some have told kids that their parents are racist if they support police. one of those parents joins us after the break. one movie event that can't be missed. infidel. rated r.

>> tucker: gladwin elementary school is now requiring fourth and fifth graders called stomach to read something about "not my idea" a book about rightness. the book also says that people who don't watch media reports about police shootings are complicit in racism.

the school's cultural proficiency committee has mandated several other programs for young children including classes that teach kindergartners that just asking other people questions can be racist. we reached out to the lower merion school district which includes a glad when elementary which is one of the richest school districts in the nation and they responded to us this way. "the lower merion school district fully supports the ongoing implementation of an antiracist curriculum in schools and encourages the use of developmentally appropriate books that raise awareness of the very real issues of racism and privilege. in other words, of yours, this is what we are doing. so, why are parents allowing schools to teach their own children to hate them for the color of their skin? melinda fishbein is the mother of a student who attended glad when elementary and she has since moved that child out of the district for obvious reasons. tell us your experience with

this school in what many of you may not know is a fairly well-known school district, but you moved your child out. why? >> in fact many people moved out of our area because of the quality of education in public schools. i actually have two kids there. they were second grade in fourth grade. these have been going on now for a while and it's not something new that started right now. little by little the school has been introducing different subjects that we were concerned about and the counselors kind of brushed it all off. but just before the end of the school year, literally two days before the end of the school year as it a result of all the unrest and riots, they introduced what you rightfully called black cutthroat

curriculum. and when my husband and i were looking at the problem we were totally alarmed, and obviously we were kicked out of the lesson. as the school you're finished we wrote a letter to the superintendent, as well as the principal in the school board, and they totally ignored us. later we actually question the validity of this kind of question and emphasizing the fact that this teaching turned to martin luther king's teaching upside down. and that is totally turning it upside down.

and post my letter to the superintendent on the facebook of the parents school facebook page. i was totally taken by the harsh criticism and in fact, in some places i told them that they are like lynching me. this kind of criticism, and as you know the kind of names they call us, racist, not in our school, et cetera. the interesting thing though, and that is what launched and created that movement. the interesting thing is, those are the vocal voices. i received at the same time a lot of emails to grandparents and families that supported me but also at the same time, the

message was we are afraid to talk. we are afraid to resist. >> tucker: will thank god that you weren't. by the way all those good liberals love immigrants until they are disobedient i noticed, then they attack you. thank you so much for telling your story on our show and for your bravery, we need more of that. not much more of it. >> i hope i can just mention that we created the movement called no left turn in education and you can find us on facebook as well as the internet. no left turn in education. kind of a hilarious moment on the campaign trail yesterday, joe biden trying to woo hispanic voters in florida with the help of his cell phone and a song about sacks. mark steyn watching avidly from

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>> tucker: it yesterday at an event in florida, joe biden's

handlers give him something called a cell phone and told him to play a song by the name of d'esposito. >> i just have one thing to say. hang on here. ♪ >> there you go. dance with him. >> i tell you what, if i have the talent of any one of these people i would be elected president by acclamation. >> hold on here, sister biden. not clear that joe biden speak spanish but, the lyrics say i want to breathe her neck slowly, let me tell you things in your ears. no question one of joe biden's favorite songs. that was when elizabeth warren discovered beer and her husband >> hold on a second, i'm going to get me a beer.

my husband is now in here. do you want a beer? >> i'm going to pass on the be beer. >> the prize goes to the democratic party's grand master of falseness, the great gospel singer hillary clinton. >> i don't feel in no ways tired, i've come too far from where i started from, nobody told me that the road would be easy. >> tucker: she is just sick and tired of being sick and tired. preach it, hillary. mark steyn only says what he believes and that's why we love him. who is the faultless person in the democratic party? >> well let's eliminate elizabeth warren because i am a

sinister, ruthless donor, and there is, i'm going to get me a beer. then joe biden playing a song that he had never heard of until he stepped out on stage by an artist he has never heard of it, and the night before that big rally in the best reaction to this is george w. bush. 20 years ago he was asked to take a pop test in the first question was, what do you think madonna and he said i'm not into pop music. that is what a healthy, secure man in his late 70s like biden would do. and it's so good for the pop stars two. the gold standard again 20 years ago, al gore went up to courtney

love of the pop group "whole" i believe it was and he said it, i'm a big fan. and he said yeah right, name a song. well he apologized -- >> let me give you one more. sinatra gives a speech at the democratic convention in favor of adlai stevenson. is plopping his hand on sinatra's shoulder and sinatra with the microphone still on says, hands off the fred's, creep. that's a better attitude for the celebrity class then pandering to these politicians. it's not good for either of th them. >> if you write a memoir and i

hope that you do i hope it will be called hands off the threads, creep. >> that would be a political throw for some enticing table, that's a good title for it mark steyn, great to see you. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: is it possible, and republicans are hoping for this, that there is a silent majority of voters for the current president? there is some information, and we don't know what's going to happen but there could be a lot a few people who were informed.

>> tucker: at the worst thing about american politics is identity politics. splitting people into demographics, and we hate doing it but that's the way these things are measured. according to new surveys the president is now leading joe biden and you didn't expect this among hispanic voters in

florida. what has changed since 2016? the author of the book hijacks the country and elevated its worst people. great book on the title is true. thanks for coming on. these are big changes, what accounts for them do you think? >> i think that many other voters like you were just saying, i think that -- i hate to segment voters in two different identities but it's a lot of the same thing. if we are just talking about gay people, we are looking at city's who are run by democrats and liberals and states, and we are seeing them go up in flames. gay people are inherently afraid of violence for i think reasons that should be obvious. so i think seeing that has scared a lot of people and we are looking for someone -- looking for protection from somebody and we seen joe biden from the last two or three months kind of excuse and not

outright encourage what's going on. this is a little bit of news i think for may be of you are, and that is capitol hill meeting the staff on capitol hill, not the representatives over the senators, the staff. staff is actually very on both side. the republican side is actually more than the democratic side end of the thing is that the republican side, they are very discreet about the fact that they are republicans. you have republicans that are finally coming out and saying, i'm tired of seeing what's going on around the country. trump is the one who at least we'll say we've had enough of this and that's what we are looking at. >> tucker: i think in the end of that's what. will this person improve my life or will this person hurt me? that matters than any of these stupid symbolic appeals.

i think that's a really fair point that you make. thanks for coming on tonight. >> thanks, tucker. amazingly it went so fast, the show that's the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. and guess what is next, that's not all because sean hannity takes over alive. >> sean: last minute prep, you caught me. anyway, welcome to "hannity." tonight you the more joe biden leaves his basement bunker, concerning statements, weird bizarre guests and long meandering rants about the latest sections in department stores and today he toted a conspiracy theory about the coronavirus vaccine. we will show you the very worst moments coming up. also we will get reaction tonight from jared kushner, senator lindsey graham will breaking news thus tonight and also you will meet to high school students, one is the son of a police officer in the other is a son of