show. >> our guest will be barrasso and kevin brady. with the remaining seconds i want to give it to ainsley. >> i will just watch your show. you sold me on it. >> sandra: rescues are underway this morning across the south after hurricane sally ripped through the region yesterday. the storm has been downgraded to a tropical depression as it makes its way through georgia. it has already led to widespread flooding and left more than half a million people without power. the storm is blamed for at least one death. a live report from the hard-hit city of pensacola in just a few moments. but we begin with president trump and joe biden both hitting the campaign trail today. the president set to speak to voters in wisconsin tonight. while joe biden holds a town hall later in his hometown of

scranton, pennsylvania. good morning, i'm sandra smith. hi, trace. >> trace: i'm trace gallagher. coronavirus pandemic was the focus for both candidates yesterday. mr. president said a vaccine could be ready as soon as october. disputing a longer timeline from the director of the cdc. our chief white house correspondent john roberts live on the north lawn. what are we expecting from the candidates today? >> you can probably expect to hear more about coronavirus and vaccines and mask wearing and everything. the president heading to mosinee, wisconsin. the president believes he can bring the numbers in. joe biden will be in scranton, pennsylvania, the president likes to remind is no longer his home for a cnn town hall. the president was there for an abc town hall tuesday.

pushing back about redfield where he said vaccines not being available to the general public until next summer. i asked the president about the timeline. >> he said the vaccine for the general public likely will not be available until next summer or early fall. >> i think he made a mistake when he said that. it's incorrect information. i called him and he didn't tell me that. i think he got the message maybe confused. maybe it was stated incorrectly. we're ready to go immediately as the vaccine is announced. it could be announced in october, could be announced a little bit after october. >> the president told me after redfield said that to congress he called the cdc director to ask him why he said it. the white house insisted high risk individuals and hospital workers will get the first vaccine there will be 7 million doses, the end of march 2021.

number of months before redfield said it would be available. the president criticizing joe biden for engaging in what he called anti-vaccine rhetoric. biden casting doubt on anything that comes out of the white house before the election. listen here. >> let me be clear. i trust vaccines. i trust the scientists. but i don't trust donald trump. >> the white house also pushing back against what dr. redfield said about mask wearing. he testified yesterday that masks may be more effective controlling the spread of the coronavirus than a vaccine. here is mark meadows this morning. >> when you look at if masks is the panacea for everything, then we can have everybody going back to work if they'll just wear a mask. i don't know that dr. redfield will say that. other doctors don't say that. if that's the way we open back our economy and get everybody back to work i will gladly wear my mask each and every day if

that's what makes the difference. and it doesn't. >> redfield clarified his testimony in a pair of tweets writing i 100% believe in the importance of vaccines and of a covid-19 vaccine. it is the thing that will get americans back to normal everyday life. the best defense we currently have against this virus for the mitigation efforts are wearing a mask, washing your hands, social distancing and being careful about crowds. it is true that hhs and fda will take the lead in the development, approval and distribution of a vaccine. for there to be such a split between the white house and cdc director is unusual. joe biden saying he believes that as president, he would have the authority, trace, to issue a national mask wearing mandate if states don't comply with it. i think he might get a legal challenge on that front. >> trace: one or two. john roberts live at the white

house. >> sandra: one of the two l.a. sheriff's deputies shot in a compton ambush has been released from the hospital. the 24-year-old male officer is now home. female partner who helped save his life remains hospitalized. she is reportedly in stable condition and expected to fully recover. investigators say they have multiple leads on who pulled the trigger. as of this morning a manhunt is still underway. >> trace: minneapolis city council members pressuring the police chief to address a surge in more crime after they voted to eliminate the police department. council members sounding the alarm during a meeting yesterday. >> the crime is actually spreading out. >> what people want to know is mpd's response. >> people are asking where is the police? that's the only public safety option they have at the moment. >> we have officers on the

street telling people they aren't enforcing crime. what do we do? >> i know it's not only the police department. that's who people are looking to right now. >> in july the council took several steps toward dismantling the city police department approving an amendment to reall koit $1 million to the health department to hire violent interrupters. >> sandra: for more on this let's bring in dan henninger. your piece this morning is fascinating because you are basically asking how bad does this violence have to get before it dramatically impacts joe biden's ability to lead his campaign to victory? in your piece you call democrat madness, political insanity can be defined refusing the admit the reality about destructive violence. tell us about it, dan. >> well, it's been a question ever since this began whether the law and order issue raised by president trump and the

republicans at their convention would rise to the level of a significant political issue. a lot of people thought well, not really. it wasn't on people's minds. we had a monmouth poll this week it's on the minds of 67% of respondents. 60% of black respondents also thought law and order has become a big problem in the united states. and so it is now indeed an issue on the table as we just heard from these folks in minneapolis. but i think there is more bad news for the biden/harris campaign and that was the demonstration outside the hospitalization in los angeles when demonstrators screamed we hope you die. increasingly apparent to me as the left wing protestors are bordering on the insane.

i make this point because we have watched these protests, been told they have been peaceful but there is a lot going on between the simple sign carrying and the looting of buildings. day after day in these protests we see protestors getting up into the faces of the cops, right there screaming obscenities at them personally and at great length. why are they doing this? they do not fear the police anymore. that line in the sand between security and civil disorder has been washed away. it has been washed away, sandra, over the last couple years by progressive prosecutors who decided to decriminalize behavior in their cities and to pull back the police function. what we're seeing is a real world test of that model and a spike in violence across the united states, which i think is catastrophic for the biden-harris campaign. >> sandra: you say this is the status quo. this is new, a status quo where there is no fear of the police

by protestors or common street criminals. a line in the sand has been washed away. this condition didn't happen in the past 100 days. democratic politics have been building toward this redefinition of law and order for at least 20 years. dan, before you go i want to ask you about the "wall street journal"'s reporting on sedition charges and what they are reporting bill barr is telling prosecutors to consider charging violent protestors with sedition. "wall street journal" dug into that. to bring a sedition case prosecutors have to prove there was a conspiracy to attack government agencies and officials. anti-government sentiment could be protected speech even including discussions of violence and a plot that presented and imminent danger. where is bill barr going with such a suggestion and can that happen? >> sandra, i think he is going in two directions.

one he is adding sedition to arson, gun violations to the list of federal crimes that he wants federal prosecutors to bring in the absence of these progressive prosecutors i described doing anything about the criminal behavior in these cities. secondly, though, i think bill barr is pointing to what could happen after the election. we have had articles appearing recently in the mainstream media suggesting that if donald trump wins, democrats may not be able to control themselves. we know there will be a problem with the mail-in ballots. if you see a situation, if the president wins and there are demonstrations in the streets, riots claiming oats an illegitimate government i think bill barr is suggesting he would prosecute these people under the sedition laws. he is trying indeed to set down a marker and let them know it will not be a free lunch if they intend to riot in the event donald trump gets reelected. >> sandra: we'll have more on

that throughout the morning. dan henninger from the "wall street journal." thank you, dan. >> trace: rescues underway after hurricane sally made a direct hit on the gulf coast leaving whole communities under water in florida and alabama. pensacola, florida had a part of a bridge washed away. florida is not out of the woods yet. >> our number one priority is to protect life. when you have this amount of water. the saying is hide from the wind but run from the water. the water can be hazardous when you talk about 2 to 3 feet dumped on some of these areas, that's a big deal. you could see even more flooding over the next couple days. people need to be vigilant on that and make sure they put their personal safety first. >> trace: charles watson is live in pensacola. what are people waking up to this morning? >> trace, at the very least

residents are waking up to millions of dollars in damages. this marina in pensacola falling victim to the strength of hurricane sally. check out these boats pushed in land, smashed into one another and tangled on top of these docks. this is cell phone video taken by a resident as the marina was being battered by the storm. you can hear the wind howling as it knocks those boats around. many people in pensacola with little or no time to prepare for the damaging effects of sally. >> living on the coast you feel like you have a clue and that you will be prepared. this one really caught i think everybody here in pensacola by surprise. >> the damage stretches much further than this marina. roofs are peeled off of businesses. this morning a portion of the three-mile bridge is missing after a barge broke loose and went crashing into it. officials say it could take months to fix that bridge.

rivers are expected to crest today but much of the water that we saw out here in the streets of pensacola yesterday has already started to recede. trace. >> trace: a little bit of good news. charles, thank you. >> sandra: president trump hitting the campaign trail in wisconsin today where polls show him trailing joe biden by nearly seven points but there is a new report this morning some democrats are worried the president is gaining and that the democratic governor is to blame. plus senator lindsey graham said a big name is set to testify on operation crossfire hurricane. who is set to appear? >> i'm telling your viewers for a long time we would try to have an accounting for what happened with crossfire hurricane. how did it guess so off the rails? how was the fisa court misled multiple times? well, that day is coming. this selenite grey is so pretty, isn't it? wow! jim, could you pop the hood for us?

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>> sandra: former f.b.i. director james comey set to testify before the senate judiciary committee looking into the fisa court. >> the day of reckoning is upon us when it comes to crossfire hurricane. james comey agreed to appear before the committee on september 30th without a

subpoena. i appreciate mr. comey coming before the committee. he will be respectfully treated by asked hard questions. >> sandra: revealing also that robert mueller turned down an invitation to appear. >> trace: president trump heads to wisconsin today, a state he won by less than one point back in 2016. the real clear politics average has biden up there by nearly 7 points but a new report from "politico" says some democrats are worried that governor tony evers may be helping the president gain ground with his handling of the riots in kenosha. let's bring in rachel campos-duffy. i want to put up the marquette law school poll. the approval of tony evers was prior to. 65 percent in march before the riots. now his approval rating at 43%.

a huge number of a swing there. then "politico" goes on to write this. interviews with more than two dozen activists, local officials and voters has concern that evers is diminishing what should be a -- they say he has allowed republicans to cast him as weak and ineffective. your thoughts on that? >> let's go to that poll you talked about with coronavirus. in wisconsin private schools are open, public schools are closed. so every day that public schools are open and proving that you can teach students safely, is a day that's bad for the democrats and for governor evers policy of closing the schools and the democrat party's policy of closing schools. it is highly disruptive to work life, to family life and a

bipartisan issue. i think people are starting to feel like this feels political and no one wants to feel like there are politicians toying or playing politics with their lives, with their kids' lives. i think it is a sleeper issue for them. in addition you're right about people feeling that he is a weak leader and he showed that in kenosha. people were very disappointed with his response. trump came in and very quickly put this under control so you have a lot of support in the milwaukee area who don't like trump or his style but the issue of law and order and safety in their neighborhoods is very personal and real since kenosha. i think it will move many of them to vote for him. >> trace: the poll we were showing was concerning law and order. concerning pre-riots and after riots. the coronavirus thing is not in there. i also want to bring this up because it is interesting. you have the governor's

approval ratings plummeting pre-and after riots and fox news poll says this polling from wisconsin voters on criminal justice who do you trust more to handle law and order and it says joe biden at 47%. donald trump at 42%. what do you make of that and how do you square those? >> you know, polls are difficult. here in wisconsin they've been wrong before. i think one of the interesting things being on the ground in wisconsin is that you can feel things that you can't feel when you are in washington, d.c. or new york. and what you feel when you are on the ground here is an energy. a massive enthusiasm gap. we're seeing in my town alone, trace, there is -- there are four pop-up trump stores because official campaign can't meet the demand for trump gear here. so you have an enthusiasm gap. in addition there is a ground game for trump that is much stronger than it is for biden. part of that is covid. each campaign is campaigning the way the leader at the top

does. the trump campaign is on the ground, going door-to-door, they are inviting volunteers into their offices to campaign. the biden campaign has very strict covid rules. they aren't going door-to-door. they aren't having rallies. their candidate prior to kenosha hadn't been here for 700 days. you look at the two campaigns, retail politics matters in wisconsin. the trump campaign is doing everything they can and fighting for every vote. the biden campaign feels when you are on the ground here in wisconsin like they are trying to phone it in. a lot of their campaign staff is in another state. they are managing the campaign from another state and doing it through social media and tech. i don't think it will work here. >> trace: to echo your point you have a former democratic party chair in kenosha who told "politico" the following. i don't think he has his pulse on -- talking about governor tony evers, has his pulse on

what's going on in the state. not a forceful personality or the qualities of a great leade. we need a winston churchill, not a neville chamberlain. can the democrats still use the governor to boost the biden campaign or is the trump campaign going to come in and see that weakness as something beneficial for their corner? >> i think it's a policy driven and so i think he really damaged himself during the kenosha riots. no one in wisconsin is forgetting. i have said for a long time i believe kenosha will be an inflection point. donald trump saved kenosha. governor evers never even went until several deaths on the street. democrats as you showed in that quote are disappointed as well. leadership matters. >> trace: we should point out before president trump won wisconsin in 2016 by 23,000 votes a republican president hadn't won the state since

ronald reagan. rachel campos-duffy, always good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> sandra: pushback from a u.s. attorney over new reports that attorney general bill barr asked prosecutors to consider criminal charges against seattle's mayor jenny -- new weekly unemployment numbers are just out showing 860,000 people applied for benefits last week. so what does all of this mean for our economic recovery? we'll ask peter navarro, white house advisor, who is joining us live next on that. >> we have had some positive movement in the right direction. everyone needs to call on their house member to make sure that they stay here that we negotiate.

>> sandra: it is the bottom of the hour now. time for top stories. rescues underway this morning as tropical depression sally khurns through the southeast after dumping 30 inches of rain in parts of florida and leaving over 500,000 people without power in the gulf coast region. >> trace: president trump back on the campaign trail today traveling to wisconsin. joe biden leads the president there by seven points in the latest real clear politics polling average. >> sandra: a scary scene in austin, texas, when two cranes collided leaving over 20 people injured. investigation into what caused the collision is now underway.

>> trace: the u.s. attorney for the western district of washington is denying reports from "the new york times" and the "wall street journal" that attorney general bill barr asked prosecutors to explore criminal charges against seattle mayor jenny durkan in reaction to the chop zone. what is the mayor saying about all this? >> good morning, trace. she is outraged but the u.s. attorney says it did not happen. "the new york times" quotes unnamed sources who claim attorney general bill barr asked prosecutors in the civil rights division to look into the possibility that durkan had violated federal law by allowing that chop zone in her city for several weeks. the report says barr wanted prosecutors to consider bringing sedition charges against some of the antifa members doing damage at the protest. the federal statute says there is a seditionous conspiracy if two or more persons con fire to overthrow the government of the united states or seize, take or

possess any property of the united states. they shall be find under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years or both. there was a lot of talk about what federal charges may apply to the protestors who battled federal agents every night for weeks outside the federal courthouse in portland. many were charged with arson, rioting or assault. the idea she was under investigation the mayor tweeted this report is chilling and the latest abuse of power from the trump administration. this is not about me, it is about how this president and his attorney general are willing to subvert the law and use the d.o.j. for political purposes. brian moran, the u.s. attorney who covers seattle said at no time has anyone commune indicated to me she should be charged with any federal crime related to the capitol hill organized protest. as u.s. attorney i would have been aware of such an investigation. he went further with the failed

times calling it the goofiest thing he has ever heard. >> trace: dan springer live in seattle. thank you. >> sandra: brand-new numbers on the economy just in. initial jobless claims slightly higher than expected. 860,000 americans filing last week. peter navarro joins us now. what does that new number mean for our economic recovery? are we climbing our way out of this? >> there is no question we're climbing our way out of it. the way i like to look at it. we'll let folks like larry kudlow talk about the big macro. what i do for the president is work on the microstuff. today he is going to wisconsin, tomorrow minnesota. and at the micro level i'll explain why we'll do so well in both of those states. if you look at wisconsin you start in oshkosh, the president did a huge defense budget

increase. we got great -- one of the state-of-the-art combat vehicle plants there near the green bay area. the shipyard there is booming when it was all but dead under the obama-biden administration. you go to wausau. it is close to the duluth area and what is happening over in minnesota is there is this natural resource renaissance that's come about in logging but particularly because of the steel and aluminum tariffs. the whole iron range up there is booming. they make things called toconite pellets and they go to the steel mills around the midwest. if you look at all this economic activity that is the result of the focus on manufacturing, focus on the workers, i think that's what will really lift things up and by the way, there is big 10 football as well. people are happy in gopher and

badger land today. >> sandra: he is hitting the campaign trail and he is going to wisconsin. he sees some work to be done there. a narrow margin that he did unexpectedly win that state in 2016. he is heading to mosinee in marathon county today. the county he carried back in 2016. why there, peter? >> look, this is the most active president in terms of traveling. why he will be there today, he will be somewhere else in the state in another week. this president, it's interesting to watch his travel schedule compared to the joe biden not express. this president is the hardest working president you have ever seen. think about the travel schedule. wisconsin today, minnesota tomorrow, north carolina and then next monday it is going to be ohio and so we're hitting it hard. everybody understands that the swing states are going to be really what determine this election but they play right

into donald trump's strength. it is all about being a blue collar president and the republican party being the party of the working class. >> sandra: the residents of that state and throughout the country wondering what happens as far as a relief bill and stimulus checks. you have the president now talking about an even larger stimulus package. his priority has been the $1200 stimulus checks. a tweet from the president on dems and bail-out money. he said democrats only want bail-out money for blue states that are doing badly. they don't care about the people. never did. mark meadows was on this network this morning detailing what he says the president wants. listen. >> what number did he tell you he wants? >> he was certainly willing to embrace the 1.5 trillion number that was put out in the last day or so. it really depends on what the priorities are. >> sandra: add to that. what does the president want?

>> trust in meadows here. a negotiation. we do that behind closed doors unlike the democrats who like to do it in the rotunda. the one thing i can tell you, sandra, this is not news but it should be repeated, nancy pelosi is the problem here. there is a lot of people in her party who want to deal because they understand the pain and suffering of the people in this country whether it's not having a job or whether forcing eviction or foreclosure. i'm not sure what's going on with pelosi but there is definitely a deal to be done whether it's 1.5 or something else. but look -- >> sandra: what's it going to take? >> well, i think talking on shows like this and raising the awareness so the american public puts pressure on capitol hill. nancy pelosi appears to be the obstacle here. there are a lot of people in her party who want her to move off that dime. unfortunately, the sad truth, i think she is gambling that if

the economy is bad, president trump loses and she gains power. that kind of calculus, if there is any truth to that at all, it has no place in this great country. >> sandra: she has pushed back on that notion that has been floated out there. >> she pushes back on all sorts of notion. >> sandra: she has gotten pressure from members of her own party to your point. thanks for being here. >> trace: chris rock with harsh words for democrats. what the comedian says they're prioritizing over the coronavirus response. plus joe biden preparing to hold a socially distanced town hall in a battleground state as he accuses president trump of politicizing the race for a coronavirus vaccine. >> politics will not play a role whatsoever in the vaccine process. i trust vaccines, i trust the scientists, but i don't trust donald trump. [ thunder rumbles ]

[ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. rioting is not protesting. looting is not protesting. it's lawlessness, plain and simple.

and those who do it should be prosecuted. fires are burning, and we have a president who fans the flames. he can't stop the violence because for years he's fomented it. but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia in this country shows how weak he is. violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. it's wrong in every way. if i were president, my language would be less divisive. i'd be looking to lower the temperature in this country, not raise it. donald trump is determined to instill fear in america because donald trump adds fuel to every fire. this is not who we are. i believe we'll be guided by the words of pope john paul ii, words drawn from the scriptures. be not afraid. i'm joe biden and i approve this message.

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oh, no way. we have a tie. this has got to be a first in acm history. >> sandra: he was quite shocked by that. carrie underwood and thomas rhett for entertainer of the year. the entertainers were shocked. the acm awards were supposed to happen back in the spring but were delayed several months due to the pandemic. >> trace: comedian chris rock raising eyebrows, the actor not only hitting president trump but criticizing pelosi and the democrats for prioritizing impeachment over the coronavirus. rock telling "the new york times" it is all the democrats' fault because you new the emperor was five years old. it was totally up to pelosi and the democrats. the thing was we'll get them

impeached which was never going to happen. you let the pandemic come in. we can blame trump but he is really the 5-year-old. here is marie harf, the 5-year-old chris rock is talking about is a reference to the last emperor the movie of 1987 where the emperor was 5 years old. the impeachment process ended february 5th two weeks after the first coronavirus case was confirmed in the united states. what do you think? is chris rock -- does he have a point? >> trace: the democrat let this in? >> donald trump is the president. he threw out the playbook and impeachment is not the reason he failed to take it seriously and continued throughout many months and even today to downplay the severity of the virus. we have heard him on tape admitting he did. that donald trump did not spend

january worrying about impeachment. he knew senate republicans were going to save him. he spent january holding campaign rallies, holding a super bowl party, tweeting a bunch, when he should have been getting a defense production act in place, getting a national testing and tracing strategy in place. the idea that impeachment somehow is the reason we have this virus at the level we do is laughable. maybe the only laughable thing chris rock has said in a long time actually, trace. >> trace: i think chris rock is very funny. i'm asking the question that chris rock asked, did democrats open the door? you can bash the president and that's your right. did democrats open the door for this because of their hatred of the president? >> i'm answering your question. democrats in congress control one branch of congress, the house. they are not responsible for a national pandemic response and we saw many members of congress on the democratic side going back to january and indeed earlier warning about the

coronavirus asking for a national plan. but the truth is the executive branch and the president are the ones in charge of a federal response. nancy pelosi can pass legislation all she wants and indeed she has. that doesn't put in place a national strategy. that is squarely at the feet of the president. >> trace: i was looking at a lot of social media feeds on this thing. a lot pro chris rock and against him. a theme when people agreed with him they were talking about this theme from lucky me. he writes he is right talking about chris rock. up until 2018 dems could only cry, ridicule or obstruct. they won the house. instead of leading the nation they focused entirely on trying to impeach trump which was futile. they co-own the mess. the theme is the critic saying whether it was russian collusion, impeachment, or bret cavanaugh hearings it was always the hatred of the president over what they should be doing in congress.

what is your thoughts on that? >> the democratic-led house passed just in this congress alone i think now somewhere over 400 pieces of legislation to address things like voting rights, to address the coronavirus, to address justice in policing and i think a huge -- i know a huge percentage of those have died on mitch mcconnell's desk in the senate. so yes, democrats in the house moved forward with impeachment because donald trump asked a foreign country to interfere in our collection. they were holding the administration accountable. they passed a ton of bill that went nowhere on mitch mcconnell's decks. they're saying we're passing bills and putting ideas out there and all the senate is doing is confirming judges. unwilling to move forward on any of these pieces of legislation. that's the pushback you hear from democrats. >> trace: always good to see

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>> sandra: star power there. bringing back the entire cast for the new season. so look forward to that. >> trace: it will be great. jim carrey is great at impersonations. it will be very funny. >> sandra: all right. thank you, trace. hurricane sally leaving widespread damage on the gulf coast. whole communities are under water in florida and alabama. jason rogers is the director of public safety in a county in florida. what's happening there this morning? >> good morning. transitioning at this point from search and rescue and public safety response and more into a recovery mode and getting eyes on the ground on all the damage that we're seeing. >> sandra: how would you assess that so far? >> it's a major disaster and we're certainly hoping for the federal government to come out with a major disaster declaration for this. there are a lot of people in need. we have -- continue to work with state and local partners

and getting the cooperation in these times of disaster we can't move fast enough sometimes. we're trying to get the help out to the people who are most in need. all the coastal residences and businesses and they were just really devastated. >> sandra: you look at some of these pictures that our viewers are seeing while you are talking. cars driving through flooded streets. what are the dangers posed to the residents of that county right now? >> right now we have major issues with power outages and power lines down. the trees are causing infrastructure problems as well as blocking roadways and so we have engaged the florida national guard. we've engaged all of our public safety and emergency services personnel to try to keep people either in shelter, shelter in place or evacuate them to emergency shelters which we have a few set up and we've got

refugee shelters, basically high and dry shelters we can take people from flooded areas to be picked up and taken to an appropriate shelter. everything from power lines down to blockages to we don't encourage anybody to drive through any water because we've rescued several people out of cars. right now it's a very dangerous situation here. >> sandra: one of the biggest safety reminders out there. keep children and pets away from the downed power lines. as far as resources, what is needed right now as you say search and rescue efforts are underway and obviously a lot of people in need? final thoughts. >> yeah, so we are in need right now. we have communities that are gone. they're in need of everything. so we're setting up points of distribution, food and water first and then recovery efforts after that. certainly look to faith-based organizations for help and if anybody wants to help across the country, those are the places to turn. >> sandra: a huge effort

underway. jason rogers our best to you and your community and all those trying to help those in need. >> trace: joe biden and president trump gearing up to hit the campaign trail in key battle ground states today. biden leads in both but can the president close the gap? - i'm norm.

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"america's newsroom." >> at least one person is dead as sally drenchs the gulf coast overnie. it dumped torrential rain in alabama and georgia. >> part of the roof started coming off and siding was ripping. >> emergency rooms have also been having increased patient numbers just due to the wildfire smoke. >> air quality. i have asthma so i have to be careful on how much time i spend outside. >> one of two l.a. deputy's shot in come ton released from the hospital. >> they're closer to finding the gunman behind the attacks. >> sandra: we'll have more on all those top stories in a moment. joe biden back on the campaign trail today as both candidates set their sights on crucial battleground states. 54 days out, trace, good morning, everyone. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm sandra smith. >> trace: i'm trace gallagher.

the former vice president will hold a virtual event and travel to pennsylvania after the president held a rally there. president trump is going to the central part of the state of wisconsin. >> sandra: peter doocy is covering the biden campaign this morning. what the biden's game plan to combat any ground the president may have gained there? >> sandra, they aren't going to knock on any doors. campaign manager is saying they don't see any benefit to that even though the trump campaign claims to have knocked on millions already. but the biden team is starting to run some new tv ads focused on healthcare accusing the trump administration of trying to roll back insurance for pre-existing conditions. his administration is hoping to overturn the affordable care

act. the biden's consistent team is covid-19. now he is hoping to turn the tables on trump who charges that biden isn't living up to his campaign promises. >> well, first of all i find it fascinating the president said biden put in a mask mandate. i don't know how -- i'm not the president. he is the president. >> and the first out of town event that biden has today is going to be a town hall this evening in scranton, sandra. >> sandra: all right, peter. president trump heading to wisconsin today so how crucial is that state and when will joe biden head there next? >> 10 electoral college votes makes wisconsin very, very important. biden does not have anything on the schedule in terms of a return trip yet. you can tell how important it is to his campaign because both he and harris have been there within the last two weeks and hoping to flip it since trump won the badger state in 16.

biden's more immediate focus is holding pennsylvania. he is -- minnesota. he is scheduled to visit the iron range tomorrow, which recently went from blue to red among many voters whose primary issues relate to mining there. sandra. >> sandra: more on that coming up. peter doocy, thank you. >> trace: back on the hill. house speaker nancy pelosi is facing open rebellion within her own ranks. moderate democrats from swing districts are demanding action to find compromise on a coronavirus stimulus bill before they leave town to campaign for reelection. white house chief of staff mark meadows spoke earlier this morning on how the talks are going as well as the bipartisan plan that's making the rounds. >> we have had some positive movement in the right direction. here is what we need to do. everyone needs to call on their house member to make sure that they stay here, that we

negotiate and let's use the 1.5 trillion new recommendation is a foundation for new negotiations. >> trace: chad pergram following all of this live on the hill. how much pressure is nancy pelosi facing to get something done? >> she is certainly getting an earful especially from the moderate democrats who represent these battleground districts. there is that old expression just don't stand there, do something. what the something is unclear. one democrat pushing something specific is a member of the problem solvers caucus a democrat from new jersey. listen. >> from families to small businesses, to our local governments, they are dying for help here because the crisis affected jobs and economy. they want us to get something done. it is unconscionable of us to go home without a dee. >> it is not just house democrats. a moderate member from either side of the capitol, republican

or democrat wants relief. >> nobody looks good. if one thinks they have the advantage they're wrong. there are a lot of things we need to fix. we have one more bite at the apple. we've been six months getting to this point and still have nothing. >> it's unclear what could pass here in the house of representatives or the senate for that matter. there has been some talk about doing some piecemeal bills. so far those talks haven't geled yet. >> trace: the white house hinting president trump wants to go bigger? >> democrats will say it's not big enough. again people are looking for specifics. here is what the white house said yet. >> he wants more than the $500 billion and he he is very keen to see these direct stimulus payments. we hope nancy pelosi will work with us in good faith on the many bipartisan proposals out

there that have merit. >> a lot of senate republicans are leery of doing anything above the bill they tried to pass last week. the whole idea of direct payments gets to be very expensive, trace. >> trace: chad pergram live on capitol hill. thank you. >> sandra: the debate over masks still a big topic on the campaign trail. former vice president joe biden said he believes he would have the authority to issue a mask mandate in order to stop the spread of the virus if he were elected president. >> our legal team thinks i can do that based upon the degree to which there is a crisis in those states and how bad things are for the country. the question is whether i have the legal authority as president to sign an executive order. we think we do. i can't guarantee you that yet. >> if you did you would? >> if i did, i would. >> sandra: he would also make a case for a mask mandate before taking federal action. >> trace: at least one country

overseas means business when it comes to wearing masks from indonesia. authorities in a local district there are forcing people caught without masks in public to dig graves for covid-19 victims. so far eight people have received that punishment. masks have been mandatory throughout indonesia since july. >> sandra: fox news alert just hours after hurricane sally came ashore in alabama authorities say the storm was responsible for the death of a man in orange beach, alabama, first responders are helping people in flooded communities. sally is moving northeast as a tropical depression. >> there have been hundreds of rescue missions. we have not had any reported fatalities yet. the flooding isn't over. as the rain is dumped north of

the state of florida it comes down in different streams, rivers and tributaries. all these bodies of water in northwest florida you'll probably see them rise and crest and you could see more flooding over the next couple of days. >> sandra: jonathan serrie is live in atlanta. what conditions are you seeing on the ground there? >> good morning, sandra. i'm standing on peach tree battle avenue. police have blocked it off with yellow caution tape. they don't want cars trying to drive through the area. the street is parallel to peach tree creek will often flood. the storm is much weaker than it was when it hit the coast. we've been experiencing constant rain all night and through this morning. over here is atlanta memorial park. much of it under water and down here a residential street woodward way much of it under water and the water creeps up as the rain continues to fall. in addition to flooding.

heavy winds are causing downed trees in parts of atlanta interfering with the morning commute. several trees blocking portions of interstate 285. take a look at this video from southwest atlanta. heavy winds knocked down a massive tree on top of a house. neighbors came rushing to aid people screaming from inside and in particular an older man searching for his young nephew, a young man in his 20s who neighbors say just graduated from law school. the fire department was called in. searched through the debris and sadly they found the body of the young man. he was deceased. at least one fatality here in the metro atlanta area as remnants of hurricane sally continue to dump heavy rains and cause gusts knocking down trees. 28,000 georgia power customers are without electricity right now. crews are working around the clock to try to restore that

asking residents nearby to keep their social distance while all this is going on, there is also still a pandemic. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: challenging situation there. thank you, jonathan serrie. >> trace: detectives working around the clock to find the suspect who shot two l.a. county sheriff's deputies over the weekend. progress in the search as the reward gets bigger. president trump and joe biden hitting the road to two key battleground states. in moments chris stirewalt with his analysis on battlegrounds pennsylvania and wisconsin. >> president trump: we're going to win the commonwealth of pennsylvania and we're going to win four more years at the white house. at today's record low mortgage rates. with newday's va streamline refi, there's no appraisal, no income verification and no out of pocket costs. let newday help you use your va benefits

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>> trace: looks like acting homeland security secretary chad wolfe will be a no show at the house committee on homeland security. ignoring a subpoena. his deputy was ready to testify in his place but the democrats criticized the offer. chairman thompson can complain all he wants. the facts are clear and they aren't on his side. longstanding precedent says that pending nominees don't testify to other committees as their nomination is pending.

>> sandra: all right. it is a big day for the campaign trail. president trump and joe biden hitting the campaign trail today. we're going to take a tour through the touch screen here studio this morning and take a look back and trace i hope you will join us here as we await chris stirewalt. we're looking at the 2016 results. we know that joe biden is heading to pennsylvania today. obviously this is a state that president trump narrowly carried in 2016 but digging into where exactly joe biden will be traveling to today scranton, pennsylvania, obviously hillary clinton carried the county back in 2016. he will be on the ground there today. both candidates hitting the campaign trail and trace, thank you for joining me with my debut on this screen. technology is always fun. here we are in wisconsin where the president is traveling today. again you go back to the

results of the 2016 election where president trump unexpectedly pulled off a win in the state by a very narrow margin. we all remember that night. and here the president is going to be making a big trip to marathon county, mosinee is where he will be on the ground at the airport there today. the strategy obviously being questioned with the president going to a county that he so handily carried, you've seen some of the recent fox news polling how the president is polling on law and order and policing in the state. joe biden is polling above the president. he is hitting this state today and hitting the ground running, trace. >> trace: i have everything chris stirewalt has except for the orange couch in the background. i want to jump in. when you talk about wisconsin, we talked about the fact when president trump won this by 23,000 votes in 2016 was the first republican presidential

candidate to take sconce since ronald reagan. tough gop area. the question becomes is the president and the trump campaign believe they have an in. they could go into wisconsin, because of law and order and the falling ratings of the governor they can go in and win wisconsin even though they're about 7 points down in the real clear politics average. >> sandra: you did chris stirewalt well. let's bring in fox news politics editor chris stirewalt. you missed the debut on the touch screen. there you are. we're happy to have you here. the latest polling, the average of polls, real clear politics for pennsylvania where you've got joe biden leading the president by 4 points but he has narrowed that margin, the president. >> well first of all i want to tell trace this is a great couch and you would be lucky to have such a fine couch as this,

my friend. i tell you right now. >> trace: the color, chris, the color. >> we are having a 70s throwback kind of year and having a 70s throwback couch. burnt orange is the new black. pennsylvania went the way that it did in 2016 for three reasons. number one, donald trump won over working class white voters in places like the allentown, bethlehem area and northeastern part of pennsylvania. performed about as well as republicans do with traditionally republican areas, those are more affluent suburban voters in pittsburgh and philadelphia suburbs. two reasons why pennsylvania went the way it did in 2016. another big one hillary clinton under performed what she should have done in the democratic strongholds in pittsburgh but

really in southeastern pennsylvania philadelphia and its collar counties. so it's those three pieces. the trump campaign is trying to jack up its numbers further with white working class voters to do better there. scranton and wilkes bury, it's about that. they have to make up for lost voters among the traditional republican coalition in the suburbs. they have had some drop-off there. but the 64,000 dollar question then remains will democrats -- traditional democrats and their coalition go out for joe biden and deliver in big numbers? if they do they can take pennsylvania off the board. >> sandra: president trump is heading to battleground wisconsin today as we just put up on the screen. mosinee, he is heading to. obviously this marathon county will be a key spot for the president to visit, wausau, the county seat there, chris. tell us about wisconsin and what we're seeing there with joe biden as we just put up on the screen the latest real

clear politics average polling ahead of the president seven points there now. >> so wisconsin is probably trump's best bet whatever the polls -- average of polls say today. i still think wisconsin is trump's best bet for a repeat performance of 2016. he won't sneak up on anybody in pennsylvania or michigan. wisconsin has a more republican electorate than the other states. if trump can get traditional republicans. wisconsin is different than other states in one significant way. the closer you get to the population center in the eastern part of the state the more republican the electorate gets. scandinavians and socialism and all kinds of stuff. the closer to milwaukee the more republican it gets. if he can get the blue collar and more affluent suburbs aruined milwaukee and vote for him as they did for scott walker at 65 or 70% if he can do that he can make up for his

losses and bring the state home. >> sandra: pulled up milwaukee on the touch screen. the results back in 2016. chris stirewalt, appreciate you joining us, sir. better late than never. >> heck, yeah. >> trace: fox news alert. hope in the weather forecast for the west coast struggling with historic wildfires. many facing financial hardship in the pandemic. before coronavirus the number of americans living in poverty fell to record lows. charles payne is here on how the u.s. economy can make a comeback. apps are used everywhere...

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>> trace: bottom of the hour time for the top of the news. tropical depression sally, high winds and rain are plaguing parts of georgia this morning

and possible tornadoes across the carolinas this evening. >> sandra: william barr said another nationwide coronavirus lockdown would be the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in american history other than slavery. he slammed governors who have imposed stay at home orders. >> trace: some relief in sight for communities in the west battling dozens of wildfires. light rain expected to move through the pacific northwest today which crews hope will help slow the fires and clear some of the unhealthy smoke in the air. christina coleman, how optimistic should we be about this change of weather? >> hi, trace. it's very likely that there will be some scattered showers in the pacific northwest get much-needed relief to firefighters. here in southern california i'm at the bobcat fire. you can see hot spots from it just over there just behind me. you see some of those.

those flames were much larger just moments ago. firefighters showed up and used foam to get those flames under control but there are lots of those hot spots here in monrovia canyon this morning. the bobcat fire burning northeast of los angeles is just one of 25 major fires burning in california right now. 250 marines and sailors will start fire training this week so they can help fight the fires in central california. u.s. army soldiers have been helping the large august complex fire helping crews get that fire under control in northern california since september 3. since mid-august 25 people have died from the fires in california. some of the latest reported victims include a 72-year-old man found dead in a vehicle and two other people found on a roadway. 15 people were killed in the north complex fire last week alone which is burning about 125 miles northeast of san francisco. hard-hit oregon the fires destroyed almost 2,000 homes and buildings and some small

towns like phoenix and talent were pretty much wiped out. back here in california we have those dry and hot conditions so tough conditions for firefighters and as of now more than 17,000 firefighters are working here in this state to try and get these wildfires under control. trace. >> trace: i'm following you here christina and looking at the smoke behind you. give us a context and have the cameraman give us a bigger idea where the smoke is in relation to maybe some homes in that area, where exactly are you standing? it is fascinating. >> the homes are just about 10 minutes down the way. you have a lot of homes down at the bottom of this hill. i am in monrovia canyon, giant canyon park. a lot of hiking that goes on in this area. the fire that's burning here is in a very isolated fuel pocket. firefighters all around watching this fire burn.

they are letting it burn out. this entire area has been scorched already. this fire is pretty much contained where those flames are burning. fire crews have their eyes on this. you have that plume of smoke that's spreading across the canyon and adding to all the smoke pollution, that bad air quality we've been talking about so long. you can now see that smoke on the east coast and even as far as europe. some 5,000 miles away. definitely an issue here but something these firefighters will continue to work on. >> trace: it is notable we should point out white smoke when you talk about the vatican, white smoke is good, dark smoke is bad. white smoke the fuel level has lowered. a good thing for the city of los angeles to see. nicely down out there. thank you. >> sandra: the los angeles county sheriff reporting that both deputies shot in an ambush attack last weekend are on the

road to a full recovery and one of them is already out of the hospital this morning. meantime investigators have promising leads in their search for the gunman. jeff paul is live in los angeles on that. first, jeff, the second deputy is still hospitalized. what are you hearing about her condition? >> sandra, la county sheriff says the female deputy is still recovering in the hospital but feels like they're on the right path to make an arrest. so far do not have a suspect. it was on saturday when two sheriff's deputies in compton were ambushed and shot in their patrol vehicles out in the open at point blank range. surveillance cameras captured that moment and later showed the 31-year-old female deputy who is bleeding from her own injuries trying to apply a tourniquet on her male partner.

the sheriff was asked why it's been so difficult to make an arrest in this case. >> the ran dem and brazen nature of the act. no conflict or interaction. it left us relying on physical evidence, video surveillance and from there the reward that has been offered by the county and private entities. >> a few days ago deputies swarmed a house leading to a nine hour stand-off. there was speculation that the suspect was involved in the deputy ambush. it turned out not to be the case. it was an armed carjacking suspect. despite that person's bail being set at $2 million the sheriff insists there are no named or wanted suspects right now and also telling us the reward in the deputy ambush case has grown to more than $300,000. sandra. >> sandra: jeff paul reporting from los angeles for us. jeff, thank you. >> trace: meantime there is potentially a new hope in the fight against covid-19, a drug

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>> sandra: a second parkland officer fired in response to the school shooting there will report hadly get his job back on the same technicality. he hid behind his car during that massacre, an arbitrator say authorities waited too long to fire him under florida law. that attack killed 17 students and staff members and wounded 17 others. the suspect is still awaiting trial, nikolas cruz. >> a government report is giving us a sense how well the cone me was doing before the recession brought on by the pandemic. the number of people living in poverty last year fell to a record low 10.5%. that's the lowest level since

estimates first started being kept back in 1959. let's bring in charles payne, the host of making money on the fox business network. charles, we talked about the poverty level being lower. i want to put these numbers on the screen. income levels rising. the census bureau reports that black americans had an average income rise of there are 3,389. hispanics, over 5,000 and women over 3,000. your thoughts on these numbers. >> as you know i look at all the data that's available. i study it, crunch it and look at it. i've been going on tv for the last several years pointing out that things were getting better particularly in the last year. what we saw an eruption in blue collar wage gains, higher than inflation and higher than anyone else. i love when this report comes out. it takes us back.

i think what we need to point out are the poverty levels down 1.3% overall. the lowest since 1959. it declined 2% for black americans, 1.8 for hispanics, 2.8% for asians and 2.2% for people with disabilities and down 2.2% for people without a high school diploma. we talk about shared prosperity. this is what it looks like. >> trace: you talk about the lowest since 1959, charles. the census makes it very clear at least 1959 because the metrics keep changing over the decades. it could be the lowest ever as far as poverty rate goes and you talk about the trump campaign because they keep talking about the strongest economy in the history of the world pre-pandemic. "the new york times." i want to get your reaction. it says mr. trump's campaign pitch focuses on the idea his

administration built the strongest economy in the history of the world. some figures argue against that statement but it is true that a record long expansion and strong labor market were helping workers to make meaningful gains before the pandemic. this could be a big campaign issue for the trump campaign. >> yeah, whenever you get "the new york times" to even grudgingly say yeah, president trump has a point, that's breaking news everywhere. statistics are interesting, right? if i've got a dollar in my pocket and that's my net worth walking down the street and find another dollar i'm up 100% and still broke. i tell people listen, no matter who won between barack obama and john mccain they had an economy that would rebound. the american system itself is so remarkable it goes like this. we go above it sometimes and we go below it sometimes and then we go back to that line.

and it happens over and over again. the trickier part is when you give to an economy that's stable but how do you grow that? that's more difficult believe it or not and what makes what is happening the last couple years even more remarkable for me. >> trace: what i found fascinating about the census bureau study it talked about wages rising but they also talk about the fact that health insurance, the quality of health insurance, the number of people insured also lift ed with that. something you talked about many times. you get better jobs you get better insurance. >> your options get better and better as you go up the ladder, right? it doesn't work for going from coach to business class and it's one of these things. i want to get back to the term shared prosperity. we should all shoot for that goal. i don't think we have to achieve that in this country by

bringing down any particular group of people. for the most part, poor people in america are not poor because there are rich people and if we find a way to be able to create an economic back drop where everyone has an opportunity to increase their fortunes, that's what this country has been made on, built on. it is still there. we see it there. we see it in the 2019 stats, trace. i know politics are tough and politics of envy work and there is a different between how people feel and sometimes the stats. you can read off these numbers and a lot of people will say i don't feel that way. fine, but the numbers are the numbers and i think we have to be careful, very, very careful to sway away from what made america the greatest country in the world in a relatively short period of time over politics. >> trace: at the same time, charles, i want to wrap up by saying you talk about the trump administration coming out and say pre-pandemic we might have had the greatest economy ever. there was the pandemic and we

are where we are. a lot of people are concerned of the fact they are where they are and how much it plays into this. you can talk of what you did, would have, could have, should have. how much do you have to focus on what's happening now and how you rebuild the economy to where it was? >> also, you know, the new -- the structural changes because of this reality is a great point and why i have been arguing over and over again for additional stimulus. when i talk to -- for instance i have senator kramer coming on my show today i'll point to him what i point to a lot of republican lawmakers. if february there was over a million more job openings than unemployed people. right now there are 7 million more unemployed people than job openings. let's fix the problem and then i get it. i don't want to pay anyone not to work. anyone knows me know i believe that. to your point things have structurally changed and we're

still in an emergency. >> trace: and just to point out while you were talking the dow is still down 100 points. it was down 300. a bit of a rally down there. charles payne. great to see you. >> sandra: we call it the cp effect on my show. >> trace: the charles payne effect. >> sandra: as wildfires continue to scorch the state of oregon one woman going the extra mile to protect her property. >> you smoke cigarettes? did you light anything up on fire? >> sandra: more on that confrontation next plus one pharma company said it made a breakthrough in coronavirus treatment technology. we'll have the brand-new details from dr. marc siegel on that next. lucose monitor - lucose monitor - ...makes it easy. easy to check your glucose without fingersticks,

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>> sandra: a woman in organ taking matters into her own hands after she found a man on her property carrying matches. take a look at this. >> what are you doing on my property? >> i didn't know it was your property. >> did you light anything on fire? >> no ma'am. >> what are you doing with those matches on your head? >> the man in the video hasn't been identified and claims he had the matches because he is a smoker later admitted he didn't have any cigarettes on him. the devastating wildfires have displaced hundreds of thousands of people in california, oregon and washington state. >> trace: a new drug in the works that may be able to help sick patients clear their bodies of the coronavirus sooner in development. therapy can prevent some people have -- from some sick people from landing in the hospital. with us now is dr. marc siegel

associate professor at medicine at nyu medical center and medical contributor and expert on all things coronavirus. dr. siegel. great to see you again. if i get it right it's called a mono clonal antibody, a manufactured version of a natural antibody. are you encouraged by this eli lilly study? >> i am encouraged by this. the second one this week from eli lilly that shows an effect. this one as you just said in 450 people studied decreased the risk of hospitalization from 6% to less than 2%. a big drop when you think about it. it decreases the amount of circulating virus. it showed in the people studied 450. antibodies are made when you get better from covid-19. i talked to the head of the fda this morning and he is very encouraged by the use of convalescent plasma in over 100,000 patients so far.

when it comes to this treatment he thinks it is promising as a bridge to a vaccine. if we can get it to work properly, it can get us over decreasing hospitalizations while we wait for the vaccine. >> trace: you talked about the numbers there. i want to put these on the screen so we can give our audience some context. these are taking it the people here 1.7% of the patients who got the drug were hospitalized versus 6% taking placebo. we'll do the math for you, a 72% reduction in risk. that is a huge thing. the question becomes how fast can we get this stuff to market if it's approved and how much do we need to actually kind of saturate the country or make sure we're able to fight this thing off? >> that's a very good point you just made, trace. because we manufacture this we could ramp this up extremely quickly. much faster than convalescent plasma when you have to wait for somebody to get over it

before you can garner the antibody. here you can manufacture hundreds of thousands of doses of this in a very rapid period of time. now, dr. hahn didn't tell me he thinks this is ready for emergency use authorization yet. he didn't commit to that. we need a further study. regwen ron is also working on it. between the two we'll get something very quickly. one more point about this it decreases the amount of virus that is circulating in your body especially on day three. they found on this lily drug. why is that important? because the more virus that is around, the more chances you are of those horrible inflammatory effects and blood clotting that you see. the more virus, the more chance of a secondary infection. the sicker you get the more likely you'll end on a ventilator. we have to reproduce this in more people. >> trace: here is eli lilly's

chief scientific officer. it should give us confidence that neutralizing antibodies will be solutions for ours and other companies and win the fight against covid-19 through medicine and innovation. that is from chief scientific officer. a bold statement. >> neutralizing antibody. when you go to the lab and get tested and tell you you have covid antibodies you had it and making antibodies. not all those proteins are what causes you to be immune. what a neutralizing antibody does is what it sounds like, binds to that spike protein on the coronavirus and then in comes t-cells, other immune cells and destroys the virus. if you can't bind to the virus itself, it is useless. that's the antibody we need and that's the one that is being made synthetically. >> trace: i have to go, five seconds. a year from now is it vaccine

or therapies that turn the tide? >> i say vaccines a year from now. a year from now we'll see a totally different landscape because of vaccines, trace. >> trace: always good to see you, sir. thank you. >> sandra: we have to get this in here. new york city announcing another delay on the reopening of public schools. the city now plans to start in-person learning in phases with pre-k beginning next monday. high schools eventually will be opening october 1. here is mayor bill deblasio on that earlier this morning. >> we said we have to do it all and we have to do it right. so the fact is that we talked about the different types of schools, their levels of readiness and how we could work together to make adjustments that would best allow us the right kind of start. september 21st this coming money prek-special ed.

then on tuesday september 9th k-to 5 and k to 8 schools. october 1 middle schools and high schools. >> sandra: the "new york post" this morning on its cover save our kids. trace, clearly a picture we all know too well. a little boy struggling at his computer yawning, bored, tired. the post says we need in-person school in nyc. the column inside. remote learning is a disaster. the post is calling on teachers and the mayor to get their act together for the welfare of our children depends on it. you know, homeschooling, you know this image. it is hard. it is hard. we're not teachers. >> trace: you know better than anybody. you have young kids at home. the question becomes how politically important is this. coronavirus is going down and the economy is going up. it helps the trump campaign and you talk about the big ten starting up football again and schools going back. in october schools are back in

most places and football is on. it is very poiltically important to what happens in november. >> sandra: for the safety and welfare of our kids it is important but of course we want them to get back into those classrooms safely wearing masks and social distancing but parents are having a hard time with this virtual learning. it is not easy, trace. >> trace: best of luck to you and all of us. fox news alert. president trump and joe biden hitting the campaign trail today in battleground states. we'll talk to dana perino about the state of the race. plus new reaction coming in after a back and forth between president trump and the cdc director on the timeline for a coronavirus vaccine. ♪ here? nah. ♪ here? nope. ♪ here. ♪

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>> sandra: fox news alert. dramatic water rescues in florida as crews try to reach survivors of what once was hurricane sally. after the killer storm drenched the gulf coast region. the fire chief now saying pensacola got four months of rain in four hours. now the powerful rain maker is on the move through georgia and south carolina. good morning, welcome back to "america's newsroom," hi, trace, i'm sandra smith. >> trace: i'm trace gallagher. sally now a tropical depression but a powerhouse of rain. flash flood warnings in atlanta as sally pushes inland for what could be a slow and disastrous

drenching the south. the amount of rain in feet. all that water washing away part of a bridge in pensacola, florida. a replica of christopher columbus's ship the nina is missing and gets ready for a nroongd disaster as waterways reach record levels. if that wasn't enough, a 10-foot alligator was washed into the streets. >> sandra: grady trimble is live in pensacola, florida with the latest from there. grady. >> trace: officials are providing an update now on the recovery efforts after hurricane sally wrecked havoc on pensacola and today people are cleaning up. for some it will be more difficult than others especially in this neighborhood where the storm surge forced this barge on a bridge that was under construction into people's yards. several of these homes in this neighborhood were flooded. you can see the downstairs area

of this home right here flooded. parts of docks all over the place here as well as parts of people's homes. in gulf shores, alabama the mayor confirming one person passed away as the hurricane caused storm surge there and flooding there as well. and right now thousands and thousands of people are still without power. we've seen linemen all over town here as well as mobile, alabama i-10 has trees down. thousands of customers without power in florida and alabama and it's still wreaking havoc in parts of georgia and southeastern united states as well. >> sandra: what a scene there, grady trimble, thank you. more on the devastation from sally when the governor of alabama kay ivey joins us at

the bottom of this hour. >> president trump: we're going to have something in a matter of weeks but it is amazing. this never happened until a few weeks ago when they started criticizing the whole concept of this vaccine. they should be happy. we are talking about saving a lot of lives. that's the world of politics. >> trace: president trump doubling down on his prediction a coronavirus vaccine could be weeks away. that claim in stark contrast with the cdc director dr. robert redfield who told lawmakers yesterday that a vaccine would not be widely available until next year. john roberts live from the north lawn. how did the president explain the discrepancy between what he is saying and what the cdc direct ar testified yesterday. >> he said the cdc director got it wrong. he said while a vaccine would likely be available sometime in

november or december for high-risk individuals and people who are on the front lines of coronavirus response, it likely would not be available for the general public until late in the second quarter or maybe even the third quarter which could put it sometime between the summer and maybe even the beginning of fall. yesterday at his coronavirus briefing i asked the president about that timeline which he vigorously disagreed with. watch here. >> president trump: i think he made a mistake when he said that. it's incorrect information. i called him and he didn't tell me that. i think he got the message maybe confused. maybe it was stated incorrectly. >> it was clear in the way he said it. >> president trump: i don't think he means that. when he said it, i believe he was confused. i'm just telling you we're ready to go as soon as the vaccine happens. >> the white house is also pushing back against what dr. redfield said about masks

saying they could be more effective than a vaccine of controlling coronavirus. >> when you look at if masks is the panacea for everything, then we can have everybody going back to work if they'll just wear a mask. i don't know that dr. redfield will say that. other doctors don't say that. if that's the way we open back our economy and get everybody back to work i will gladly wear my mask every day if that's what makes the difference. and it doesn't. >> dr. redfield clarified his comments in a pair of tweets saying i 100% believe in the importance of vaccines and of a covid-19 vaccine. it is the thing that will get americans back to normal every day life. redfield saying the best defense we currently have against this virus are the important mitigation efforts wearing a mask, washing hands, social distancing and being careful about crowds. back on the vaccine the

president and dr. scott atlas said the plan is to have 100 million doses of vaccine ready for high risk populations and healthcare responders and have 700 million doses ready for the general population by the end of march. months ahead of what redfield was predicting. >> former vice president biden and the president trump are going to swing states. >> the president will be in mosinee, wisconsin. biden still is up by seven points in that state, though the trump campaign believes it is a lot closer. biden will be going to his birthplace of scranton for a cnn town hall. tomorrow the president is headed to northern minnesota. be watching this afternoon in the 2:00 hour. the president is going to be hosting an american history event at which i'm told he is going to make a significant announcement.

stay tuned, trace. we'll have all of that four as the day progresses from the continuing saga at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> trace: dana perino just texted she loves the tease. thank you, john roberts. >> sandra: you mentioned dana. let's bring her in. president trump heading to the battleground state of wisconsin today. whether his law and order messaging is even working there after the deadly protested rocked kenosha. it shows the president trailing biden by 6 points in wisconsin. dana perino, co-host of "the five". when you look at what is happening in that state in wisconsin and you see the president heading there today, is there going to be a strategy change seeing that his law and order message and policing

message hasn't exactly been working if you rely on the polls for that? >> the trump campaign will always say their internal polls say something better than a public poll, the biden people says the same thing for them. let's take it as it is. law and order messaging works very well especially for the president's base and it might not be working as well in wisconsin but it is working somewhere else. i'll get to that in a moment. i will say this in preparing for this opportunity to talk to you today, i spoke with a democrat who said that they are sort of mystified why the president continues to try to pound this law and order message especially in the suburbs. what they are seeing is it doesn't work. their achilles heel is the economy especially in the suburban districts. they think that the president would be much better off pounding biden on the economy. i'm not saying this democrat wants trump to win.

they recognize that is biden's weakness and not only is the economy but also relationships in dealing with china. those are two good issues for the president that you will see him start to pound on those and you might see biden try to do the same. when it comes to law and order, if it's not working in wisconsin they might have shot at something but hit a different target. it seems to be helping him in the sun belt states. that's your nevada, arizona, maybe even in georgia. so it isn't that the message doesn't work at all. it just might be working in places not necessarily where the president is traveling today. >> sandra: very interesting analysis there to stick with wisconsin for one more second. i want to put this question up on the screen that voters were asked. on the recent protests against police treatment of black people whether you support or oppose the protests. people have to decide for themselves what they make of these numbers. 51% say they do support those protests, dana.

44% oppose. broaden this out to dan henninger's piece in the "wall street journal" this morning. democrat madness. i know you had an opportunity to see it. political insanity can be defined as refusing the reality of destructive violence. how much longer can this go on without the condemnation on the parts of democrats before this really hurts the biden campaign, dana? >> i always read dan henninger and i like to read the "wall street journal" editorial page the night before which i did last night. the think about this issue right now what dan henninger says it is not something that has been building for the last few months but building for 20 years and people are seeing the destruction in some places. but that also the reason you see that poll is that i think people recognize that yes, of course we should absolutely support peaceful protests but when it tips into lawlessness

and defund the police and rioting and small business owners being destroyed, that i think is where dan henninger really tries to pin the issue on the democrats and perhaps when joe biden finally has to answer some questions from voters in that town hall we'll see them ask this. >> sandra: we talked to dan henninger at the top of the 9:00 hour this morning. listen to dan. >> i think there is more bad news for the biden-harris campaign and that was these demonstrations outside the police hospitalization in los angeles where you had left wing demonstrators screaming we hope you die. it is becoming increasingly apparent to me, sandra, that the left wing protestors are bordering on the insane. >> sandra: interesting to get his perspective after reading that piece. final thoughts? >> i would say i spoke to somebody who does live in the sun belt and they had been a trump voter thought they would

vote for biden. it is this issue on the defund the police, not supporting police that pushed them back to the trump camp. >> sandra: we'll see you at 2:00 and 5:00 on the fox news channel. dana, thank you. >> trace: crews are fighting nearly two dozen wildfires out west. rescues taking place every day. we'll tell you about some of them next. an american service member faintion up to a decade in prison over a bar crawl. we'll explain. and president trump launching a new attack on mail-in voting casting doubt on the results of the presidential election which is less than seven weeks away. senior campaign advisor is here to explain. >> it is fraud all over the place. you have people saying you don't need a verified signature? this is a serious threat to our democracy. but did you know that your va benefit lets you easily

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>> sandra: new jobless numbers showing 860,000 americans applied for unemployment benefits down 33,000 from the previous week. more than 60 million americans have applied since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. as of about two weeks ago more than 12 million workers were received those benefits.

>> trace: president trump is casting new doubt on the upcoming election results tweeting because of the new and unprecedented massive amount of unsolicited ballots which will be sent to voters or wherever this year, the november 3 election result may never be actually determined, which is what some want. another election disaster yesterday. stop ballot madness. joining me now is trump senior campaign advisor mercedes schlapp. the president has done it several times casting doubt on the upcoming election and people keep asking from the left, they want some proof, evidence. i want to put this poll from the brennan center for justice saying that the rate of voter fraud in 2017, their study done in 2017 look at the numbers right there. i don't know, four zeros before

a 4. .00004% to 00009%. very low. what's the countering evidence you would present? >> i think it's important to understand states like nevada, for example, where you've had the democrat government basically change -- fundamentally change the voting system in nevada 90 days beforehand allowing four universal mail-in voting that presents all sorts of problems. when the ballot is received. whether it is counted after the election. postmarked or not postmarked. we've seen cases across the board when you look at states like new jersey, patterson, new jersey, we saw a judge basically saying we need to redo a local election because they found 900 pieces of mail basically -- votes being mailed in in bulk. people were listed as voting but never received a ballot.

24 or 25% of those votes they couldn't even count. you look at the case of new york, for example where they were doing universal mail-in voting for the congressional race. only 40,000 votes. it took six weeks to be counted. there are those red flags, major concerns about what we're dealing with when you are focusing on universal mail-in voting which is problematic in these states. >> trace: the question becomes yes, you are exactly right. we have documented the problems in nevada and problems in other states. they are red flags. when you get to the actual fraud, the actual wrongdoing in ballots it is very difficult to find. >> you know, this is the issue for example i'll take another state like georgia where you see the report that came out that about -- they found that 1,000 people voted twice and so we want to make sure to avoid that. we want to make sure. our focus is voter integrity. if a person votes, their vote counts and they vote only one

time. the president is just bringing up this awareness because as you know, in states like pennsylvania, they will be opening up a million ballots possibly on the day of the election. that is to be very chaotic and the local election officials might not be able to handle the capability of all these mail-in votes coming in at one time. >> trace: i want to move on. we talk about the campaign is switching topics a little bit spending a lot of time on law and order and democrats are worried the economy is the achilles heel for joe biden. these are the top issues for voters in the states of arizona, florida and north carolina. look at this. economy 32%. that's the number one issue for them. criminal justice policing way down there, covid-19 comes in third. is the president going to use that? is he going to start focusing greatly on the economy?

>> the economy is the defining issue of this election. you've been reporting with the u.s. census data. under president trump he has produced the economic miracle for the united states. we saw poverty rate levels at a record low especially for hispanics and black americans. we see median income increase significantly. we've seen the fact that his economic policies have worked for our country and we have the results to prove it. compare that to joe biden where we know that joe biden is focused on this $4 trillion tax burden on american families. he would destroy the economy. joe biden would destroy our jobs. we cannot afford especially during this global pandemic to go back to the obama-biden economic policies. we know they don't work. it was the slowest recovery since the great depression and it is why we need to insure

during this time we have the right economic president and that is donald trump. >> trace: and there is no doubt the economy was very strong pre-pandemic. the goal now for the campaign is to see if they can convince voters they can do it again. mercedes schlapp, always good to see you. thank you. >> sandra: thank you so much. >> sandra: the parents of one massachusetts high school students angering the entire town. the mayor says the parents sent their child to the school on the first day of classes monday knowing the student had coronavirus. >> we just don't understand how a parent thought they could possibly think it was an okay to do or wasn't a bad idea. the superintendent, myself, the nurse at the school, the nurse at the city, the health agent, we're besides ourselves why somebody would do that. >> sandra: the school determined 30 students came in contact with that infected teenager. all of them are now in quarantine for two weeks. meanwhile an american may be prosecuted in germany after allegedly going on a bar crawl

with the coronavirus. the woman only identified infected at least 23 others after exposing more than 700 people. she went out to the bars while awaiting test results. after returning from greece with a sore throat. the american woman is reportedly a military employee. >> trace: president trump and joe biden both hitting the campaign trail heading to battleground states today where they are trying to sway voters with just 47 days to go until the election. plus the big ten reverses a decision not to play football this season. sportscaster jim gray will join us on that. also hurricane sally blamed for one death in alabama where heavy damage and catastrophic flooding are now reported. we'll have an update when alabama governor kay ivey joins us next.

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>> sandra: top headlines at the bottom of the hour. president trump set to rally voters tonight in the swing state of wisconsin where polls show him currently trailing democratic rival joe biden. for his part biden will hold a town hall tonight with his wife and running mate will also be joining him focusing on the swing states of florida and pennsylvania. >> trace: developing now new york city announces another delay in reopening public

schools. the city now plans to start in-person learning in phases. pre-k begins monday with middle schools and high schools eventually opening october 1st. >> sandra: what remains of hurricane sally is now hammering georgia and the carolinas with drenching rains. that is as people who made it through the worst are now getting a look at the storm's damage. alabama got the double whammy of flooding and wind as sally made landfall. the state reporting at least one death. the first hurricane to hit gulf shore, alabama in 16 years. the mayor there says this could be worse. joining us now is the governor of alabama, kay ivey. governor, thank you for your time this morning. give us an update on your state and what is happening at this hour. >> thank you so much, sandra. i'm pleased to report about alabama's situation today. alabama is no stranger to severe weather. people in alabama are tough, resilient and we're a state

where neighbors help neighbors. we will get through this. we've done it before. we'll do it again. president trump and his administration have been an outstanding partner to the state of alabama. in the days leading up they were engaged with us ready to lend a hand in the prelim and the emergency declaration was approved just about right away. the people of alabama thank president trump and his team for his quick action. >> sandra: we've been reporting at least one death. can you give us an update on the search and rescue efforts underway? >> those search and rescue operations will continue all during the day and we certainly hope there is just the one cat -- catastrophe. our thoughts and prayers are with the family of the victim. yesterday we had heavy rains, flooding, strong winds, trees

down in the roads, power outages galore and roads closed and impassable. yesterday i talked with the power companies and they have assembled an army yesterday in mobile ready to help. because of the conditions they can only restore power to things like hospitals and water systems. but they will be out and about today and they are there ready to get the power back on statewide starting with the coastal areas. >> sandra: how many would you estimate are without power right now, governor? >> several hundred thousand. >> sandra: a tough situation. we've been looking at a lot of cell phone video coming in as some residents step outside their home downed trees and power lines. you put out a message also to not call 911 unless you are looking at a life threatening conditions because the lines have been overwhelmed. how are you doing as far as being able to respond to emergencies in this moment,

governor? >> we've taken the calls as they come in and we'll do the best we can. we have national guard standing by. they are already positioned and ready to take action as needed as well as the alabama law enforcement agency has resources. some on water and some on land. we're ready and we want to assure the people of alabama we are making all the state assets ready and available during this period of rescue and recovery. >> sandra: so many people affected by this storm. as far as the resources that are needed at this time, i knee -- i know you have been in communication with the president. what more do you need as you are already talking about the rebuilding process? >> well, number one if folks can, stay at home and off the roads so the crews can clear the roads. and number two, if you can, try

not to call 911 unless it is a life threatening situation so that the first responders can respond to those life-threatening situations. beyond that if these people will just stay safe and stay at home another day or so it would be very helpful. >> sandra: we appreciate your time, governor. our best to you and the people of your state as there is a rough road ahead. as you said, search and rescue efforts continue. governor, thank you. >> thank you. >> trace: meantime breaking news out of southern california. one of the two l.a. sheriff's deputies shot in an ambush has been released from the hospital. the 24-year-old male officer. his female partner remains hospitalized in stable condition and expected to fully recover. meantime investigators say they have multiple leads on who pulled the trigger. as of this morning the manhunt is still underway. a dramatic day in court in the

case of an accused cop killer. this happened in rome where a 20-year-old california man is being tried for murdering an italian police officers during a botched drug deal. the defendant told the court he was sorry and finally had summoned up the courage to make the statement. he and his friend were visiting italy as tourists and their attorney contends the men thought the plain clothes officer was a criminal when they approached him because they did not see a badge. >> sandra: thought provoking calm in today's "new york post" placing blame for the ambush shooting of two sheriff's deputies over the weekend on politics. joe biden and the democrats lies about cops spawned sickening shooting. the columnist who wrote that is joining us, miranda devine. what's the point you are making in this piece. >> it was inevitable the

anti-cop rhetoric, despicable narrative going on all summer that sparked an the blm riots across america. it was inevitable it would end in death and injury to police. over the weekend we had two sheriff's deputies sitting in their car minding their own business and a man comes up to them and shoots them point blank range in the head. it is a miracle that they are both alive. incredibly heroic the 31-year-old female who is the mother of a 6-year-old put a -- while they were in the hospital there were protestors outside the hospital saying disgusting things about pigs, calling them pigs and saying we hope you die. now, those people have been emboldened by the political rhetoric which is all about trying to -- the democrats trying to spin this narrative

that president trump is responsible for some sort of systemic racism that exists across society and particularly in police forces. the evidence is not there for that. it has been comprehensively shown to be false. there is not systemic racism in america's police forces. there may be individual racists but the statistics show that in fact a police officer is 18 1/2 times more likely to be shot, killed by a black male than a black male is to be killed by a police officer. so i think everyone needs to just take a breather, start to tone down the rhetoric, stop with with this anti-cop narrative. because it is going to end in death. we've seen it before. the nypd2014 two police

officers were assassinated and the same with four cops in dallas. it has to stop now. >> sandra: that was your opinion in the "new york post" column. to your thoughts on the trump town hall where we spoke with the white house yesterday about some contradicting statements the president made while answering questions about masks and other things pertaining to the pandemic. you responded with this piece, miranda and said he should get points for fronting up and answering their questions. team biden dodges questions. joe biden refused abc's invitation and stayed in his basement, no surprise. what were your thoughts there, miranda? >> well look, the president talks a lot. he is constantly doing interviews and long-form interviews. very hostile questioning at a town hall the other night. people say why does he do this? of course in giving these impromptu answers he stumbles and might say something that

doesn't sound good when you parse it and put it in the newspaper the next day but he is being available and doing what political candidates are supposed to do so the voters can make a fact-filled decision on november 3. what we've seen from joe biden is that he has been hidden in his basement all through summer for three months under cover of the pandemic. now when he comes out it is so carefully choreographed. he is starting to travel and coming out more often but he spends most of his time in delaware down the road from the basement. >> sandra: he will be in pennsylvania today. miranda devine, thank you for being here. >> trace: some republican republicans in the senate are facing an uphill fight to stay in washington we're breaking down the latest polling next.

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senate race first. susan collins as we said earlier down by 12 points to sarah gideon. collins' bid at a fifth term not going as well. not a big surprise, richard. >> that's not a big surprise at all. we thought that susan collins would be vulnerable at the the. it turns out to be true. a lot of voters made she voted democrats to insure the affordable care act. democrats are mad at her because she voted for brett kavanaugh. because she has people mad at her on both sides of the aisle she has a tough reelection. beyond that because her voting record has been so waiting until the last minute to see what susan collins does. voters in maine are over that. it seems she will likely not be returning to the united states senate. >> trace: the not so big surprise. to the big surprise. south carolina if we can put these on the screen.

the poll that shows that lindsey graham is in a dead heat tie with his contender jamie harrison there. this is significant. before you speak i want to put the south carolina gop chairman. he tweeted this quoting. this is 10 pounds of crazy in a 5 pound sack. anyone pushing a poll that suggests republicans would only outnumber dems by eight points in total turnout on election day which is what the poll did in south carolina is either deliberately being dishonest or smoking something illegal. your thoughts on that, richard. >> i think that was a very artful tweet. i don't know if it matches the reality. if you take a look back at the south carolina primary where joe biden campaign came back to life and the state that propelled him to the nomination, what you will see is this. the turnout numbers were record setting, right? people all across the state are turning out. jamie harrison, who is somebody who i've known for sometime. sometime who worked for sten

tore clyburn and long history in the state of south carolina has left no vote unturned. he has gone to every city and campaigned in every county and really also moving republican voters who feel like lindsey graham hasn't been home enough. lindsey graham hasn't been dealing with the issues for south carolina voters. remember, all politics are local. it doesn't matter whether or not lindsey graham is a star on the national level. it matters how lindsey graham makes the voters at home feel. they feel like he hasn't been standing up for their best interests long enough, jayme harrison is having play here. if democrats are having a good night on election day it will come in early and you can -- >> trace: we have breaking news. you were on a roll. i appreciate having you on. breaking news coming up. thank you. >> good to see you. >> sandra: an update on a story we brought you earlier. justice department producer jake gibson just brought this to us. the department of justice

looked at possible criminal or civil charges we're learning against local officials on the ground in portland, oregon after weeks of clashes between federal law enforcement and violent protestors. d.o.j. spokesperson in the update tells fox news the d.o.j. explored the possibility of pursuing charges against city officials in portland but declined to comment on whether any charges will ultimately be brought. of course, that's an update on a story we brought you on bill barr earlier today. more on that as we get it. trace. >> trace: interesting. the big ten deciding to move forward with college football this season. how does the conference plan to keep players and coaches safe? a look ahead at what is sure to be an unusual season, to say the least. by using their va benefits to refinance at newday. record low rates have dropped to new all time lows. with the va streamline refi there's no appraisal,

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>> trace: good news for college football fans. big ten announcing it will play a shortened nine game season kicking off october 23. with us to talk about it sportscaster and fox news contributor jim gray. always great to see you. the big ten is back on the football field. your thoughts? >> well, i think they see the success the nfl is having and other conferences and figure look, players want to play, coaches want to play, many of the fans even though they can't attend the games want to see it going on. let's face it the institution are dying for this revenue and a tremendous amount of money if television. they'll give it a go. they'll have the new testing procedure. antigen testing. they will start all of those protocols on september 30th. they won't start playing the games until late october. but then they have an eight week stretch where they have to get it all in. very little margin for error. >> trace: you talked about the

money and so did a university of maryland professor and espn analyst. the only reason they're doing this is, the only reason is for the $700 million the big ten conference will get for playing football. $55 million that they distribute to the schools. it isn't all about money, is it, jim? >> well, when it is not about the money it is about the money. yes, they need the money. i think they've seen what can go on here. look at what has gone on. nba and nhl are in bubbles. you see the rise on campuses of coronavirus and see what's happening with some of the students. so they will have a lot of challenges going forward but they do see that the other conferences are playing and perhaps the numbers and the statistics have gone down across the country with the virus so they figure let's give this a try. that's what they are going to do. the last quote and those last numbers are exactly part of the big reason. >> trace: you are reading my mind when it comes to numbers. coronavirus is clearly the

biggest concern here. michigan state has coronavirus outbreaks in 30 large residences. iowa 1800 students, 221 in the athletic department. wisconsin 2,100 plus cases. it is a concern, jim, right? >> well, it's a huge concern. those numbers bear it out. students are much, much different than the general population with social distancing. you have people in dorm rooms, where they are on campus, and where they are able to attend school it is just a whole different environment. we've seen the pictures of how these students get together and what they do. but having said all that, this is what they've decided to do, these college athletic directors and the presidents of the schools and the chancellors have all come together along with the football team and football coaches and athletic departments and this is what they've decided they are going to do. if you look at what is going on in some other conferences they

just play without the players, they'll go forward and keep some of those guys off the field. it will be a case-by-case basis. the problem is when you are trying to get this all done by december 19th it is a very short window. >> trace: i have to go. yes or no, pac-12, do they come back in? >> if you can get these governors and these people to agree and the governors said yesterday out in oregon and california let's see what can happen, go ahead. they're getting a bit of a green light to go forward. >> trace: good stuff. you're the best. thank you, sir. >> good to be with you. >> sandra: wait for this one. pricey tickets for a flight to nowhere selling out in 10 minutes. why airline travelers cannot wait for this take-off. ♪ let me see what life is like on jupiter and mars♪ ♪in other words, hold my hand

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