so in the latest episode of the "untold story" podcast, one of my favorite topics, and much more. we will be back tomorrow night and you can see that podcast on foxnews.com podcast and we will see you back here tomorrow night, friday. have a great night everybody. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it's hard to believe that the current virus has been in this country for about nine months now since january. since the day that doctors discover the first case within our borders our leaders have assured us that they only care about our safety. that's what this is about, our safety. they told us that every decision they make us a fight this pandemic, bulimic in our interest. every restriction they impose they tell us they based on science alone. most americans want to believe that because most americans want to trust their government. but few still do.

there's too much evidence that the pope addressing is political. tonight there is conclusive proof of that, a remarkable story. a reporter with the fox 17 station in nashville thought that city's top officials hiding, key health statistics, and no justifiable reason. they kicked uncovered a series of emails from the mayor's office in the city's health department. in those emails city officials discussed the fact that only a very low number of coronavirus cases have been traced to bars and restaurants in the city. as of june 30th of this year, nursing homes and construction sites in nashville each produced more than a thousand cases of the coronavirus. bars and restaurants just 22 cases total. numbers like this could be great news for the city of nashville. bars and restaurants have been suffering for months under crushing covid restrictions. thousands of workers have been laid off and many businesses have gone under and many more

are on the brink. over the summer, the mayor, mayor cooper, is the economic damage from shutdowns to justify a massive 34% property tax increase on residents of nashville. so quarantines have hit that story quite a bit and residents will be thrilled to learn that bars and restaurants were saved once again. but the mayor refused to tell them not. he had that information. after reviewing new health numbers from bars and restaurants, one from the health department called leslie waller email this to mayor cooper's office. "this isn't going to be publicly released, right? a senior advisor replied, "correct. not for public consumption." not for public consumption, why would that be? these aren't nuclear codes, this is a national security information, this public health data. a month later a reporter in nashville heard rumors that bars and restaurants there were safer

than this he was admitting they were so he emailed the health department to find out exactly what was going on. emails now show that behind the scenes this simple request for transparency panic city officials. why would they refuse to give those numbers and this is a direct quote. those numbers are low per site. the numbers are low so we hide them, hide all good news. that's a policy. otherwise i fear might subside in our power along with it. today reporter dennis farrier tried to get more information from the mayor. why did the mayor's office lie about health information that could help the people of nashville? the mayor wouldn't answer that question of course so instead he sent his minion to scold a farrier for daring to ask that question.

watch. >> did ask for context yesterday what you should have done is to come back and tell me that you had validated those emails and whatever way that you did, and we go through legal practices, i will argue with you all day that you are not going to talk to me like this and walk away. i will talk to you in the same tone. this is america and the people have the right to know the real covid number. don't shake your head. >> tucker: finally a real reporter. what you should have done is gone back and told me you validated the emails. rather than respond to the substance of the story, much less apologize and beg forgiveness for lying, the mayor is a minion delivers a fussy little lecture about the proper protocol required for the public can ask a question of the mayor.

don't question your overlords, you will take the coronavirus we givinformation we give you. so the more data you have about the virus, the more facts and more science the less frightened you will be. that's why they always emphasi emphasize, for that matter sending their children to school in person poses very little risk to anyone. as of tonight, covid-19 remains what it has always been, overwhelmingly a threat to the elderly and people who are already sick. the median age of coronavirus destines country as of june 1st was 75 years old. 95% of all deaths have occurred among people over 55. this does not mean that covid-19

is not dangerous, of course it is. it is dangerous. it's just not dangerous to the overwhelming majority of people who are being destroyed by the covid-19 restrictions and that is forgivable. they don't even want to talk about it and so they don't. as of tonight, the restrictions, terrible policy decisions made by stupid and dishonest politicians like mayor john cooper of nashville and many like him are causing far more harm to this country and population the virus itself has caused. deaths attributed to alzheimer's and dementia have risen to more than 20% above what is normal. experts say that's because stress and isolation are contributing to those figures and they are killing people. suicide and substance abuse have decreased dramatically. 12% of coronavirus deaths ages ten through 24 with intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and adverse events.

those are comorbidities. because of the information encouraged by the left which has misinformation and propaganda, they have no idea that this is going on and they don't know that this pandemic -- for this pandemic actually looks like. one reputable study found that americans "overestimate the risk of death from people aged 24 and younger by a factor of 50 and they think the risk for people age 65 and older is half of what it actually is. in other words, this is a disease that overwhelmingly buttons the elderly but most people don't know that. why is that? why don't they know nine-month sin? it might have something to do with the barrage of dishonest propaganda from the national media organization. watch cnn's chief valley building experts explain why you must stay inside and definitely while he goes out to harass bicyclists in the hamptons.

>> while most people are staying inside like they should be, unless they are out protesting like fools, they should be staying home for our mothers and the people that we love. keeping us further apart will ultimately bring us closer together. no matter where the virus goes, the way to stop it will always be the same. our collective conscientious actions. staying home. >> tucker: staying further apart will bring us closer together. but it hasn't brought us closer together, it has atomized us, it has kept us apart. it hasn't ripped apart our society in ways that will be very difficult to fix. the media have abetted this. multiply what you just saw on hundreds of broadcasts over major networks for months and you begin to understand why so few people know anything about the facts of coronavirus.

they are ignorant. it's sad to say, but it's true in the survey show it. why? because the ignorance serves the purpose of the politicians who spread it. if you are fighting to bath side by definition you are also distracted so you are less likely to wonder why the governor of new york killed all these old people by forcing coronavirus patients into nursing homes. not thinking about that since the governor of new york just fine. watch him blame you for putting the elderly at risk. >> my mother is not expendable and your mother is not expendable, at our brothers and sisters on expendable and human life is disposable on that premise. >> tucker: andrew cuomo should have been impeached for what he did in the nursing homes in the state of new york if not

criminally charged, and then he still lecturing you for your suppose's shortcomings. he's guilty personally but he's every bit as self-righteous and never under any circumstances is he ashamed. just last week the l.a. county public health director admitted out loud without a trace of embarrassment that her entire lockdown scheme is tied to the national political calendar. kids must suffer she said until "after the election." >> we don't realistically anticipate that we would be moving to tier two or reopening k-12 schools at least until after the election. it seems to us a more realistic approach to this would be to be where we are now until we are done with the elections. >> tucker: until we are done

with the elections. so at least it's clear now, we are not pretending. your businesses will die, your children will be educated on your population will cower alone. let that be a lesson to you and in the meantime don't ask questions. steve glover is -- thanks so much for coming on. a very straightforward question. why can't you and the population of nashville get a straight answer about what the basic coronavirus data are? >> so i will give you what i think is probably a simple answer. i believe that the mirror happens to substitute his wisdom on a regular basis for those who are in the health department, along with the professionals that he has around him in his own office and he constantly inserts his own wisdom versus those of outside and there seems

to be a heavy-handed approach to his management style. >> tucker: yeah, this doesn't seem to be guided by science in the slightest. you had 22 cases in bars and restaurants, then that suggests that maybe they shouldn't be locked down. why would he hide that information, what's in it for him when the population of nashville suffers? >> the problem is, while you are going to do is speculate on this. you said it comes nashville is a great city. absolutely a great city. we got great people who live here and we've got people who embrace one another and love one another. we are so very fortunate and blessed that we have great tourists that come and visit us and by the way, spend a lot of money in nashville. the major problem is, we don't have a civil problem, we have a lack of leadership problem.

what i don't understand why we are doing this, we are destroying the downtown area literally, not only the economic engine for nashville but also an economic engine for the state of tennessee. governor lee is opening the state back up and it's time that we do the same thing for nashville. >> tucker: so you just had a reporter catch the mirror of your city, one of the fastest growing cities in the country, hiding critical health data for political reasons. why not impeach him? why should he still be your heir for a single another day? >> i don't know the exact legal answer but i will tell you tucker over the last 24 hours life has been a little hectic here because of this. i've started working with the group, and as they brought it, because they are a lot smarter than i am, as they brought this

data to me i looked at it. nothing ever added up. but it's the same in any any one of those cities that are run by the far left liberal group. and so the problem was, none of the data made sense. there are some wonderful people here that live in nashville, very, very smart people. you want to talk about hospital areas, nashville is blessed to have wonderful hospitals but they couldn't get the right hospital data. they could get the number of beds and they report icu and report all these other things that you are going, okay, based on what? it never was factual as far as what the real numbers were. >> i hope you can find a way to get rid of that. there's no reason the city of nashville should be held hostage by a liar. godspeed on that. as we just told you, and by far is not even close, many are

suffering extreme stress during these lockdown's. they are trapped alone and they have died alone. we talked a couple of times about this, the author of the book resisting throwaway culture. what a great title. thanks so much for coming on. we are not talking enough about the effect on older people of these lockdown's. >> what i think we have done as we have become utilitarians. we talked about how utilitarianism puts a number of values and puts it down to a number of values. we have decided that lowering the chance of increased infection rates is the only value we care about and when we do that, we end up with 11,000 more dead people with dementia and nursing homes and that was a

big story in politico in "the washington post" the last 24 hours and no one seems to care, except those who are we wanting to resist this utilitarian way of thinking. >> tucker: how exactly has this worked? his isolation has contributed to the progression of dementia and alzheimer's? >> that's right, it's not difficult to do the math and people who are already in this vulnerable situation become even more vulnerable. the family will be able to visit you, and overstressed working staff won't be able to help you out, just chill for six months. we seen the results, decay and mortal loneliness. >> tucker: this is what we do to violent prisoners. i don't know why there has been some national effort to think through how you can help older people trapped alone in complete isolation in a holding tank, basically, which is what these places are. why has nobody made an effort to do that i wonder?

>> the new news in particular, we have decided that not every human being matters the same. you have to have certain traits. self-awareness, massive brain injury doesn't count. i'm starting a new book that will argue the next shoe to drop which is people with dementia and we have to be ready for it. i thought it would be a predictive book but it's turning out to be descriptive book. >> we appreciate you talking about this. so last month, former trump advisor steve bannon ran the 2016 campaign was indicted and charged with fraud. tonight he joins us for his first interview since that happened. we will be right back.

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>> tucker: so for about a year we've been talking about the presidential election out there somewhere on the horizon. he wake up this morning and you realize, it's 47 days away. less than a month for him right

now, we will be the first tuesday in november and we are going to vote for a new president. this has been by far the most intense presidential election season and the lifetime of anyone watching it, but it feels like we are moving toward something even more intense. what's going to happen on election day and in the days following? the people who have been thinking most clearly about this on both sides are the people who have done it before, who have been involved at a high level on the presidential campaign. steve bannon has done that, he's one of the people that randall donald trump's 2016 effort and he was recently back in the news last month and was indicted on fraud charges related to a nonprofit. he hasn't been on television since then it hasn't given any interviews on advice of counsel. but we wanted to hear what he thinks is going to happen as we have toward november. they also wanted to ask about the charges against him. thanks a lot for coming. so i want to ask you first, he

reemerged in the national consciousness in a really big way, and publicly that i'm aware of to those charges, i want to give you a chance to some of your reviews on it. >> bill burks as my attorney and i think is a best attorney in d.c. so i said, you should lay off this. but i have to come forward. attorney general barr said, that's a high-profile of and that's four years to the day that is never going back to the campaign in the campaign is in great shape. we are doing a great job of delivering the victory for

president trump. there's the pandemic in january democratic party is traumatized the base and they are not going to come out to vote. somehow they have to concoct some effort to steal this election because they are not going to get people to come out and vote on game day comes the 3rd of november of this year. that's why i've been working the last couple of months, i was never going back to the campaign and that's where these guys messed up. my platform is bigger and more resources and we are focused on is to make sure, they cannot steal the election for donald trump. scale and i want to drill down briefly. and so the macro charge is you defrauded people who sent you money to build a wall and he said he wouldn't take any money on the charges claimed that exhibit so what is your response to that?

>> my c4 -- i had a one million-dollar contract to come to be the d.c. office and oversee the wall construction and do seminars and conferences. if you want to see it, go to vice news or bbc, go to the opening season of showtimes, the opening episode in the 19 season. they are traveling around the country following us on these town halls. we built a wall, two-thirds of a mile wall up on the mountain in el paso within 100 days of starting. i was a contractor and ran an advisory board that brought together the best and brightest of all the while people so they will not criminalize or shut me down, they were not criminalized us talking wall. all that will come out in court. >> tucker: the key thing is, they want to criminalize political speech and they are not going to shut me down. i'm more focused than ever,

looking off a national tour on monday called the plot to steal 2020. they are not going to stop my voice and assisting president trump in making sure that this election that he's going to win on the third is stolen from them. >> tucker: epic tech is clearly taking a side in this election, they have unprecedented levels of power over what people know and, i'm wondering if they know how they will use that power as they approach the election specifically. >> you saw the other night, and they also wrote this amazing paper. what twitter did was ripped her twitter account down right away, they took off baseball and they had to play a show that was on fire throughout the world. bailed out the communist party to be down every second, and that's what you are going to see. that's a preamble to what is going to happen on november 3rd. they are already saying come up with facebook and twitter that

they are not going to announce the winner. donald j. trump will win the vote on the only day that matters. he's going to win the real election in the way we've done it with secret ballots and voting for the president of the united states. by the end of the evening he will be a winner. the digital model of facebook and twitter, they will sit there and not declare trump the winner. >> you will write their running the campaign years ago today, looking at it as objectively as they can. how do you think the president's reelect looks. >> when you look at these numbers in the cross tabs, i think the president has not just

a great shot but i think you will be the winner on november 3rd. i think the campaign is totally focused and i think biden is a safer and can draw a crowd. think the campaign is doing great, i see a victory on november 3rd. >> and maybe then the real contest begins. i'm beginning to see think that's true. so you may have the sense that things are completely out of control in school. they are teaching things that are flat out propaganda, blm propaganda and it turns out you are right. we have lesson plans that will shock you, right after the bre break.

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>> tucker: the president today announced a patriotic education commission. that's the race theory which teaches our children that some people are inherently worse than others. some are morally tainted because of their skin color. but it's a definition of racist propaganda and that's hard to believe that exists in our country but it's flourishing. the president said explicitly. speak to critical race theory, the 1619 project and the crusade against american history is toxic propaganda. i ideological poison that if not removed will dissolve, specific bonds that tie us together will destroy our country.

from the federal government and banned it in the strongest matter possible. >> tucker: at the usual partisans were outraged by this, they somehow became a member of congress but the geniuses were silent in june when the people behind "the new york times" 1619 project will be viable of critical race theorists and encourage rioters to destroy private property in the name >> violence is when an agent of the state kneels on a man's neck until all the life lisa's body. destroying property which can be replaced is not violence, and to put those things -- to use the exact same line which to describe those two things i think really it's not moral. >> tucker: when did the dumb violent people get so much power in this country? by the way if that woman's private property is destroyed i

bet she will be saying things that are different. so the president's decision to ban critical race theories was an important step, but you would be wrong and they have ramped up their propaganda and to teach children that this is a fundamentally bad country that some people are fundamentally flawed for the way they look, and that's essentially racist in there. even though the 1619 project contains fundamental and verifiable falsehoods, garbage, that's not real history, teachers in chicago, new york and washington are already using it in their classrooms. we will look back on this in shame and horror. even schools that haven't specifically adopted the 16th 19 project are taking a similar approach. sometimes they are even more radical and the show has obtained a lesson plan for the buffalo public school system

which goes far beyond teaching bad history and deliberately advances the agenda of black lives matter, of a political organization. for example, one lesson plan teaches fourth and fifth graders to question the importance of their parents, of their own mothers and fathers and those are various guiding principles with students including so-called black villages that assist in the disruption of western nuclear family dynamics and returned to the collective village that takes care of each other. they are teaching desk to their kids, that your family should be destroyed. why are we allowing this? it's an all-out war on the most important thing we have which is the american family. the one thing that could help bring back some of our corroding cities. if nothing else has worked. we spent over a $20, and it hasn't worked, that's too demonstrable.

families do work and yet they are teaching children that families - -- their families are the problem. that's "the need for the blm movement. okay. you might think a marxist organization that destroys private property and wants to displace parents is a bad thing but that's not what your children are learning. other lesson plans actually teach children the specifics of the blm platform which rejects western family structures. another lesson plan for grades two through four explains why all lives matter is a problematic phrase. all lives don't matter. this is insane and it doesn't stop at elementary school. the goal is to redefine education at all levels and turn it into a shell for propaganda. at the thomas jefferson school for science, and technology, officials are eliminating their merit-based admission system. why? in the name of the diversity. they replace a rigorous

application process with a random lottery system. will the school survive? of course not. they won't be the best school in the country, they just wrecked it. in a few years there may not be any top schools left in the country. critical race theory will probably flourish and that's the whole point. why are we letting this happen to our children? next eden is a fellow at the manhattan institute. how widespread is this poison, and it is poison. >> tucker, it's hard to get a good grasp on exactly how wide it is. you see things on social media and you would like to think they are anecdotes. when you see a school district like buffalo put it out there as if they are proud of it, it's cause for deep alarm. that came from the school district's department of culturally responsive education in new york state adopted statewide standards and the architect of which was an

education just the other week, another superintendent of new york said we shouldn't teach, and that doing so somehow denies or undercuts the idea of systemic racism. this is a full on state that has committed to individual teachers and have a sense of social justice to define a critical race theory will take it into their own hands even if it's not necessarily on the school district's website. >> tucker: so let's get to the core idea that i think we should work to fight and that is the idea of blood guilt. some people are born with guilt, some people are born inferior and some are born superior. we rejected that as a nation a long time ago, we have a monument on the mall is a testament to the fact that we rejected it. how common is that lie in our schools? >> this ties into the 1619 project which, you discuss the

falsehoods of it but the audience needs to realize this isn't just being adopted in major school districts, teachers are taking it into their own hands. the true purpose of this according to nicole hannah jones is to advance reparations and she has studied further from that, that's her goal because she decided it was more realistic than, and i quote, how can we stop white americans from being white? curriculum can't affect skin color but what this is about is what you're saying, it's about blood guilt. it's about this critical ideology that takes things that you and i and most americans i think our virtues, things like the nuclear family, things like a sense of urgency, delayed gratification and defines them as whiteness and tells your kids that it's your job to dismantle white supremacist them. >> tucker: they have no right to do this. they have no right to destroy our children come they have no right to destroy our schools and soon we will put an email address on her screen, starting tomorrow and going forward, for

any parents who have seen examples of this. please send them to this. just a few months ago, the city council of minneapolis decided to defund the police. what could happen next? guess who is upset about the people who defund the police and guess who they are defunding? the police. one of the greatest stories ever, stay tuned. prop 15 raises property taxes $11 billion every year.

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>> tucker: june is a month ready with possibilities. the flowers have opened and the birds are singing, anything was possible. it was back in june that the minneapolis city council decided to defund the police.

the city council went on cnn and said anyone who didn't agree with defunding the police was probably a racist. >> do you understand that the word dismantle or police free also make some people nervous? for instance what if in the middle of the night my home was broken into, who do i call? >> i hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors and myself, too. and i know that comes from a sense of privilege. for those of us for him the system is working i think we need to step out and imagine what it might feel like to already live in that reality were calling the police may mean more harm is done. >> tucker: calling the police needs more harm done, that seems possible. another city council lamented that money was flowing to the cops instead of people with

social ecology degrees are masters and post feminist. >> all that money is going into the police department and what have we gotten in return? pain, trauma and hurt. it's time for us to get behind community and get behind the strategies that we know work. >> tucker: it's time to get behind community. so with that in mind the city council has voted to defund the police. then something happened that nobody could've expected but for those who are stuck in minneapolis they noticed it was getting dangerous. really dangerous. so you know what happened? you can guess. at a meeting this week the same city council devoted to defund the police demanded answers from the police chief. why weren't the police doing more to stop criminals? watch. >> i would appreciate some more information on how we are addressing the carjackings. i know there has been a number of them in the community and they really terrorize residents.

>> gun violence, drug dealings, intimidation, extortion, people are not having to pay to get out of their alleys. >> last night i had yet another 17-year-old murdered in my ward. i would say -- i don't have an exact number but i would say it's been at least 517-year-olds that have been murdered in my ward. >> tucker: city council president lisa bender was at the meeting ended in june she admitted she had privilege, does she still have that privilege? she didn't seem to think that calling the cops was quite as racist as she used to think it was. in fact, this week she asked police, how do we get this under control? it's too good. brain collector is up for former army ranger's neighbor and he has some ideas on how we might get this under control. i should stipulate that most of the city councils have been immune from the fact that they

have their own policies, but for everyone else in minneapolis wondering why did the city go to, what do you think happened in minneapolis, any ideas? >> shocking that this could have been. defunding powers criminals. i can't give up. this happening in blue states with blue governors and blue cities with blue mayors and blue das, many of whom by the way have had their campaigns funded by george soros, under their left-wing activist that just wants to make america burn, they are getting what they pay for, it is so laughable that they are shocked at this result and it's so sad that these people are being affected by this. >> tucker: if you are absolutely right, he did pay for a lot of this and he's deftly getting a return on his money, he usually does. but i wonder if all that kind of normal, sweet people in

minneapolis, a lot of whom are liberal, they didn't notice until memorial day weekend that their police department was systemically racist. this all seemed to kind of come out of nowhere. how did that happen exactly? and is it going yet, have they been awakened to reality yet? >> i think we have good signs that people are being awakened to reality. the fact that they are being called out a too little, too late, when i look at our gun sales we've had a record gun sales, more than any other months we've ever had in recorded history and that is not because of gun owners like me, that's because of some of those liberals that may be weren't gun owners before that are realizing that their safety is a responsibility. i'm told by anti-gunners all the time, i don't need a gun because we have the police. well i think that it's absurd on its face. i think police are majority

heroes and great people, but you're stuck fixing the problem before the police even get hot called. having a firearm, people are realizing that not only can i not rely on police to stop some of these attacks but when you defund the police that are not there anymore you are responsible for your own safety. >> tucker: that's all exactly right. they are going to go after your ammo, you watch. we will do a segment on that. great to see you. the show is not over yet, donald trump about to take the stage in a rally in the state of wisconsin. sick with fox news for more reality, we will be right back. ♪ for they and their families. it's a great rewarding feeling. everybody in the company, they have that deference and that respect and that love for the veteran

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>> tucker: welcome back. the president is in wisconsin tonight for a rally and as news breaks fox news will cover it. we will be back tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. and every night at that time, the show that it is your sworn enemy of lying,

pomposity, smugness and groupthink. hope you have the best night with the ones you love. we will hand it off to the great sean hannity about 11 seconds early but generosity. >> tucker: you can either fill the time or just throw it to hannity, no big deal. >> tucker: you caught me. >> sean: well i could keep going but now you are almost two seconds late. [laughs] fox news alert, we are awaiting president trump's remarks as you just saw on tucker's show, air force one pulling up in central wisconsin and we will take you there live as he steps to the podium. massive crowds showing up days and hours in advance to see the president who is expected to speak any moment. now that 2020 election correspondent and investigative reporter lawrence jones is on site and he will join us with a full report moments away. also tonight we have a special "hannity" investigation into what is rampant fraud to